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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: ILLove1997 on January 19, 2023, 01:18:45 AM
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Hoosiers ugh I hate them so let's keep this win streak alive!
Game tomorrow night at the real assembly hall 730pm cst 530pst
Illini 77
Hoosier 66
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We're blessed with Bardo again. Benetti doing play by play.
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illini 74 indiana 67
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Illinois 83
Indiana 59
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Race and X still out. The two hyphenated guys are the hoo hoo hoosiers main weapons. Talented roster with 7 former top 100, including 4 top 100 recruits.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NySpcOxp93k&t=7s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NySpcOxp93k&t=7s)
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Just keeping stacking W’s
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We're playing well with an established rotation. Good guys 79-69.
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12-0 run. Stop the bleeding already.
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Bennetti notes the Illini not a good free shot team. It is after 1/16.
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How about passing the ball Epps?
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The free shooting remaining an issue since the 1st dadgum game
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Just getting killed inside
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Davis is abusing us on both ends.
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Davis is abusing us on both ends.
Don't need Kofi!
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Rough start on both ends.
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Free shots killing us early already
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And rebounds
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Three white jerseys. Grab the rebound FFS.
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And rebounds
And interior D
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And interior D
And free shots again
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Guess we reverted back to the one-on-one crap. Move the ball, you idiots.
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Way to practice the free shots, coach!
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Well not sure what they’re doing out there, but it’s definitely not much or good.
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Illini win expectancy not very good right now, I bet
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Terrible D.
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We’re just making it too easy for Indiana right now
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Terrible D.
Which has been worse? O or D?
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On both ends of the floor
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Hopefully after this one there winds up something for IVMP and LKDog to argue about
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12 minutes in. Zero assists.
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You don't play defense, they make shots and get back on defense.
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Nice pick at least....
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You don't play defense, they make shots and get back on defense.
We have seen this movie in too many 1st halfs this year
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Getting worked by a Hoosiers squad down 2 starters at home is pathetic.
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An assist!
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We just can't get a bucket.
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How about playing some d?
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Get this to single digits and I'll consider it a win at this point.
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Bennetti with the Electric 6 reference
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Bennetti with the Electric 6 reference
Anger and sweat! 😂
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Getting the offense going, now play some defense
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It s almost a must win situation for Indiana. They lose this they 2-6. Too much talent to be that bad.
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And we as typical looked right through them. Just like the Penn state game.
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Getting the offense going, now play some defense
Need to keep attacking the rim. They have a short bench
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Well, down to 10 at half
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Get this to single digits and I'll consider it a win at this point.
Eh. Close enough.
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Yep get them in foul trouble and get back in this
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Single digits, down 10. Same thing. We're not down 17.
They're shooting 67%. We're at 38%. Fix both.
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Single digits, down 10. Same thing. We're not down 17.
They're shooting 67%. We're at 38%. Fix both.
Might want to start by finding a way to slow down TJD.
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Have to either double him or get him in foul trouble otherwise he's gonna keep trucking. Everything he has made has been well contested.
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Need to make IU work on both ends. They're not even breaking a sweat defending us or scoring on us.
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Just way too easy for them
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Yep more of the same.
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Terrible terrible terrible FT’s
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Terrible terrible terrible FT’s
Doesn't matter until 1/16...oh, wait.
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Not doubling TJD at this point is coaching malpractice. Underwood is so fucking stubborn.
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Not doubling TJD at this point is coaching malpractice. Underwood is so fucking stubborn.
Are you saying, "Mike Brey, your table in Champaign is ready"?
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Are you saying, "Mike Brey, your table in Champaign is ready"?
God, no. That would definitely be a downgrade.
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Terrible terrible terrible FT’s
Now that free shots are settled, is it too soon for 3 point shots ?
(https://i.ibb.co/HV24nsT/Screenshot-20230119-211313.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kxyBQf2)
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Our resume is about to get a whole lot weirder.
We can beat absolutely anyone anywhere or lose to absolutely anyone anywhere.
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Underwood SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS when his game plan fails, and can not make any in game adjustments. He is why we will never go deep in the tourney. If you can't do it when you have All Americans on the roster in 2 years, then when?
I fucking hate losing to Indiana
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The Bipolar Illini
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So happy we waited until we're trailing by 21 to start pressing
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Now that free shots are settled, is it too soon for 3 point shots ?
(https://i.ibb.co/HV24nsT/Screenshot-20230119-211313.jpg) (https://ibb.co/kxyBQf2)
Have to wait until April 3rd
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God, no. That would definitely be a downgrade.
Are you sure about that?
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Underwood SUCKS SUCKS SUCKS when his game plan fails, and can not make any in game adjustments. He is why we will never go deep in the tourney. If you can't do it when you have All Americans on the roster in 2 years, then when?
I fucking hate losing to Indiana
Who you got in the LKDog v. IMVP Hate Match?
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So happy we waited until we're trailing by 21 to start pressing
Cut it to 15!
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Fake or real rally???
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Lol Shannon. Wtf was that?
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This team is so frustrating
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Good thing we have been so good at free shots all season
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IU shooting 66%. Great defensive game plan you got going on tonight, Brad.
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IU shooting 66%. Great defensive game plan you got going on tonight, Brad.
He was probably counting on the free shots to keep the team in the game
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Nice foul there
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Can't blame Skyy Clark anymore.
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Just got totally out coached and out played.
Ugly game.
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9/23 on free shots.
How can you can call yourself a basketball program and shoot nine for fucking twenty-three on unguarded shots?
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Mayer scoreless.
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Can't wait to see how Underachiever defends Edey
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Can't blame Skyy Clark Kofi anymore.
Fixed that for you....
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9/23 on free shots.
How can you can call yourself a basketball program and shoot nine for fucking twenty-three on unguarded shots?
Take out Shannon, and the rest of the team was 3-13.
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WTF was that? A few times a year we let one guy have the game of his career against us. TJD, well done.
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Take out Shannon, and the rest of the team was 3-13.
Can't believe what a dimwit I have been since the opener on the topic of free shots. "Derp."
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WTF was that? A few times a year we let one guy have the game of his career against us. TJD, well done.
A "few times"? Seems to have happened a bit during this regime, no?
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Fixed that for you....
Who are the dumbasses that blamed Kofi?
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Who are the dumbasses that blamed Kofi?
More of a knock on those who were part of the We Will Be Better Off Without Him crowd....
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Can't believe what a dimwit I have been since the opener on the topic of free shots. "Derp."
Lol
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We did not turn it over.
Shot well from three.
Melendez played well.
Mayer did not show up. Was he sick, or being a dick?
Epps could not buy a basket.
We put the throw in free throw.
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Lieb got rewarded with his play vs the gofs with 0 minutes.
Perrin did see the floor.
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Underwood says Mayer was sick. He must have infected the rest of the guys then.
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Turned on WDWS in the middle of the Underachiever interview...
Mentally tired.
One of the youngest teams.
Mayer sick.
Perrin can help.
Lot of lessons to be learned.
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A "few times"? Seems to have happened a bit during this regime, no?
Yeah, but didn't this happen under Groce as well? Or is more of a BU phenomena?
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Yeah, but didn't this happen under Groce as well? Or is more of a BU phenomena?
Unsure, but it sure seems there have been quite a few games like this one where it happens in the Underachiever Era.
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Yeah, but didn't this happen under Groce as well? Or is more of a BU phenomena?
I think it happened under Weber.
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Despite not being able to guard TJD it would have been a good game if we could make layups or free throws. It was weird how it seemed like every contested ball went out of bounds off us too. Would love to see a stat on that. Seemed like every 50/50 ball or tipped ball went to a Hoosier or out of bounds on us. Weird game.
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Sure, Brad. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6NG9PgW/Untitled.jpg)
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Despite not being able to guard TJD it would have been a good game if we could make layups or free throws. It was weird how it seemed like every contested ball went out of bounds off us too. Would love to see a stat on that. Seemed like every 50/50 ball or tipped ball went to a Hoosier or out of bounds on us. Weird game.
They did not really guard anyone except for bench guys and the Hood kid was 5-12....
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Sure, Brad. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6NG9PgW/Untitled.jpg)
I hope Rob is the one who said that
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They had 20 fouls. We had 9 fouls. They had 17 TO. We had 9. They were 3 of 9 from three. We were 8 of 18. How do we lose?
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They had 20 fouls. We had 9 fouls. They had 17 TO. We had 9. They were 3 of 9 from three. We were 8 of 18. How do we lose?
TJD and 9/23 on free shots.
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Going to be a battle tested team come tourney time, long season ahead but expect we'll make the dance.
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I hope Rob is the one who said that
He’s dead.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17KmNrG9pE4
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I hope Rob is the one who said that
We aren't going to win many games with Matt Mayer and Jayden Epps combining for 2 points on 1-12 shooting no matter what the other team does.
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Podz would like good in O and B right about now. "Good" more like amazing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUM1CmXJ3mI&t=123s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUM1CmXJ3mI&t=123s)
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Going to be a battle tested team come tourney time, long season ahead but expect we'll make the dance.
We need to find a way to win 10 games in league.
Going to be a bumpy ride.
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On guys with career nights. Lou Henson was here when we decided not to guard the fat big dude on Austin Pray away from the basket and he drained a bunch of up face set shots.
Weber nearly lost to ISU because Marcus Arnold played like an All American. Arnold transferred to UI and was ...
The guard on Bradley that destroyed us and later transferred. Sam M..
Several different players on PSU.
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We did not turn it over.
Shot well from three.
Melendez played well.
Mayer did not show up. Was he sick, or being a dick?
Epps could not buy a basket.
We put the throw in free throw.
😂
Indiana shot 62%. You ain’t winning any games when the opponent shoots 62%.
TJD had 35 points on 15/19. According to you they should have put Ty Rodgers on him?😂
I recall listening to idiots like Jeremy Werner claim Dainja is better on defense than Kofi 😂. Ask TJD whose better on defense. Watch Dainja try to defend tonight…
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IBGPv9Wa40g
This team again, is trash. It’s poorly coached.
Stop searching for excuses. Watch the game.
Lot more losses coming up.
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Sure, Brad. Whatever helps you sleep at night I guess.
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6NG9PgW/Untitled.jpg)
😂 Underwood also said in the Penn State loss he didn’t care how many points Pickett had.
Let’s review.
Illinois has trailed by as many as:
24 points to Penn State at home
21 points to Indiana at home
35 points to Mizzou on a neutral site
That’s a shit team.
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It took about 2 minutes for the Hoosiers to decide to punch us in the nose. We obliged and said do it again.
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Well, that sucked.
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Was watching at my favorite watering hole...(first half), crying in my beer....ILLINI, let the Loosiers come in and punk them.
Epps/Harris tried but are freshman against a dominant one and got owned.
Dain/Hawkins/Mayer had no answer for Indiana frontcourt
Rebounding only applies to the next game, as in we need too badly...LOL
This team continues to put itself in really bad game situations, and tries to recover. It is past being a trend...BU should of had every play at the beginning of the game attacking the hoop....foul trouble the bigs, ILL would have won.
Anyway, back to the watering hole today to lament the loss and drink more beers!
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Biggest problem with the offense is lack of a PG. Harris and Epps are shooting guards. Fucking hate when the offense runs through Hawkins at the top of the key when he’s not good at making decisions and/or passing. Guess that’s why they brought in the Wop.
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I’ll never understand Hawkins at the top of the key initiating offense. He makes some of the most dumb decisions and passes I’ve ever seen at the college level. Just bone-headed and flat out dumb! And every time he gets the ball he does that stupid head fake (that fools no one).
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Mayer scoreless.
Lkdog brainless.
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Hawkins’ failure to make the expected performance jump has been one of biggest issues with this unit. Yeah he’s a tall guy that can dribble and occasionally make a flurry of 3s. That’s about it though. Yeah the head fake at the top of the key and then the hesitant passes where he fakes a pass then ends up making the exact pass he faked just allows the defender more time to get there and make a play on the ball or body up the guy catching it and not give him any room or a step to make a dribble drive. I see the potential in what they’re trying to do, he just can’t do it at the level he’s being asked to do it. Melendez is another one oozing with potential that just hasn’t made the expected progress. Mayer really isn’t any better than he’s ever been. The freshmen have hit the wall…Indiana’s are clearly better right now. The only guy who made a significant improvement to his game year over year is Shannon. That’s not what we were counting on coming into the season.
I was skeptical of Clark all along so that’s about the only other things that’s not disappointing about this team. Which is super depressing.
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This result shows why it's futile to read too much into winning against declining powerhouse MSU or pwning Minnesota in the second half.
When you can't guard or run an offense or make FTs, you're not going to beat many decent teams.
I bet the home NIT game against Drake will be a good one to watch, though.
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Hawkins’ failure to make the expected performance jump has been one of biggest issues with this unit. Yeah he’s a tall guy that can dribble and occasionally make a flurry of 3s. That’s about it though. Yeah the head fake at the top of the key and then the hesitant passes where he fakes a pass then ends up making the exact pass he faked just allows the defender more time to get there and make a play on the ball or body up the guy catching it and not give him any room or a step to make a dribble drive. I see the potential in what they’re trying to do, he just can’t do it at the level he’s being asked to do it. Melendez is another one oozing with potential that just hasn’t made the expected progress. Mayer really isn’t any better than he’s ever been. The freshmen have hit the wall…Indiana’s are clearly better right now. The only guy who made a significant improvement to his game year over year is Shannon. That’s not what we were counting on coming into the season.
I was skeptical of Clark all along so that’s about the only other things that’s not disappointing about this team. Which is super depressing.
Congratulations. You adjusted your medication.
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Glad I forgot the game was on and watched Puss n Boots with my kid. Funny movie.
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Home court advantage is not what it once was. Kids are used to traveling. On January 8, IU shot 50%, made 9 three threes, and scored 83 points, but lost at home to NU. The other hyphenated guy went 12-17, scored 33 points. IU was playing with 2 days rest, NW with 3.
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I’ll never understand Hawkins at the top of the key initiating offense. He makes some of the most dumb decisions and passes I’ve ever seen at the college level. Just bone-headed and flat out dumb! And every time he gets the ball he does that stupid head fake (that fools no one).
dribble dribble pump fake, pivot, almost travel, wild pass to someone else
rinse and repeat
wtf is underwood seeing out of this guy, he's so bad unless he's hitting 3's at a good clip he completely stagnates the offense just like mayer
Hawkins was utterly useless last night, never seen a 6 foot 10 guy be such a shitty shot blocker
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Indiana is not the best shooting team. So why not play zone to try and stop Davis? They were scoring at will in the paint. That is why they shot 62%
I don't have faith Underwood will get us anywhere near a national championship or Final Four. I feel he is going to be like a Gene Keady - puts together good teams that do well in conference play, gets a b10 title ever now and then, butt never go far in the tourney. I hope I am wrong
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We need to find a way to win 10 games in league.
Going to be a bumpy ride.
Matt Mayer needs to show up every game. A normal night from him offensively, that becomes a close game that can go either way. Hopefully he really was sick ...
Again, they figured out three pointers and turnovers. Need to make free throws and layups.
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Indiana is not the best shooting team. So why not play zone to try and stop Davis? They were scoring at will in the paint. That is why they shot 62%
Agree. They are not the best. They are the third best.
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TJD had 35 points on 15/19. According to you they should have put Ty Rodgers on him?
Good thing Rodgers didn't guard Dawson Garcia,
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dribble dribble pump fake, pivot, almost travel, wild pass to someone else
rinse and repeat
wtf is underwood seeing out of this guy, he's so bad unless he's hitting 3's at a good clip he completely stagnates the offense just like mayer
Hawkins was utterly useless last night, never seen a 6 foot 10 guy be such a shitty shot blocker
Agreed.
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Unless I'm misremembering something Hawkins had some of his better games last year when playing more at the 5.
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Agree. They are not the best. They are the third best.
I meant 3 point shooting. They are .370. So my point was to make them take the higher percentage shoots by playing zone. We were not stopping them in the paint. I mean 35 fucking points by Davis.
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dribble dribble pump fake, pivot, almost travel, wild pass to someone else
rinse and repeat
wtf is underwood seeing out of this guy, he's so bad unless he's hitting 3's at a good clip he completely stagnates the offense just like mayer
Hawkins was utterly useless last night, never seen a 6 foot 10 guy be such a shitty shot blocker
Never forget. Underwood calls Hawkins an "elite shooter". Bad coaching reinforces this guy's brain dead play.
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Good thing Rodgers didn't guard Dawson Garcia,
Rodgers belongs at the level Minnesota plays at, which is a midmajor trash team.
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Indiana is not the best shooting team. So why not play zone to try and stop Davis? They were scoring at will in the paint. That is why they shot 62%
I don't have faith Underwood will get us anywhere near a national championship or Final Four. I feel he is going to be like a Gene Keady - puts together good teams that do well in conference play, gets a b10 title ever now and then, butt never go far in the tourney. I hope I am wrong
Underwood will never ever come close to a Big 10 championship team. I'll tell you the future Illinois is looking at post Kofi. It's Frank Martin at South Carolina. That is what Underwood is going to be. And not the Frank Martin that fluked his way to a final 4, i'm talking the Frank Martin teams after that.
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Underwood will never ever come close to a Big 10 championship team. I'll tell you the future Illinois is looking at post Kofi. It's Frank Martin at South Carolina. That is what Underwood is going to be. And not the Frank Martin that fluked his way to a final 4, i'm talking the Frank Martin teams after that.
Uhhh what
(https://bigten.org/images/2021/3/14/Illinois_Championship_Game.JPG?width=1416&height=797&mode=crop)
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Congratulations. You adjusted your medication.
🤷🏻♂️🖕🏻
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I thought losing Kofi meant the offense was fixed…
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Uhhh what
(https://bigten.org/images/2021/3/14/Illinois_Championship_Game.JPG?width=1416&height=797&mode=crop)
He means post-Kofi.
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If Underwood is so bad then who do we go after to replace him...
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IMO what he’s doing isn’t fireable, but this is probably a bull market for coaches.
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If Underwood is so bad then who do we go after to replace him...
Coach K.
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Recruiting is objectively as good as it's been in terms of rsci top 100 talent. We aren't getting 5 star recruits, but I am not sure that's the answer anymore.
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We are getting 5 star recruits, but I am not sure that's the answer anymore.
Ray Meyer was good at just throwing the ball out there on the court during practice....
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IMO what he’s doing isn’t fireable, but this is probably a bull market for coaches.
I had the volume on mute near the end. But when Underthetablewood had his jacket off (I assume he started the game with one) and was ranting like a fool at the bench, it was a bad look.
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Ray Meyer was good at just throwing the ball out there on the court during practice....
I corrected that to aren't.
When Mark Aguirre turned pro, Ray Meyer said he was happy to have control of his team back.
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Who will start the horse chestnut thread?
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Coach K.
He has land in Mahomet
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I thought losing Kofi meant the offense was fixed…
Yes, according to Jeff Frank.
Unfortunately Jeff's wrong more often than Dom.
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Terrible game plan on defense.
Not sure if three All Americans would be enough to get this coach to the Sweet 16.
Still expecting 20 wins and squeaking into the tourney though.
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Terrible game plan on defense.
Not sure if three All Americans would be enough to get this coach to the Sweet 16.
Still expecting 20 wins and squeaking into the tourney though.
I'm still thinking the home game against Drake to open the NIT could be exciting.
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I'm still thinking the home game against Drake to open the NIT could be exciting.
Drake would be the favorite...I will take Illinois +6, :-\
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Drake would be the favorite...I will take Illinois +6, :-\
The rapper or the school? Well shit they aren't beating either one playing the way they did last night.
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Yes, according to Jeff Frank.
Unfortunately Jeff's wrong more often than Dom.
Wasn’t just Jeff…
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My recollection is some recognized we would be a worse regular season team without Kofi, but thought we might be a better NCAA tournament team.
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If Underwood is so bad then who do we go after to replace him...
I'd pay Nate Oats whatever it takes before Michigan State gets him when Izzo retires.
Nate Oats
Billy Donovan
Eric Musselman
Wes Miller
Sean Miller
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Another random number. Someone said we missed 14 lay ups.
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Another random number. Someone said we missed 14 lay ups.
At the risk of agreeing with you on a statistic, I would not be surprised if that is true. We missed a lot of shots right next to the basket.
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Another random number. Someone said we missed 14 lay ups.
I mentioned in my post game commentary that we missed a ton of layups. That looks about right. Credit to IU for contesting them, but still.
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The rapper or the school? Well shit they aren't beating either one playing the way they did last night.
I'm not sure they could beat the rapper or even Kenyan Drake playing the way they did against the Hoosiers.
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I mentioned in my post game commentary that we missed a ton of layups. That looks about right. Credit to IU for contesting them, but still.
I initially thought 14 was too high, but we did miss 27 from 2 (16-43) so 14 is entirely possible.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUM1CmXJ3mI&t=123s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUM1CmXJ3mI&t=123s)
Underwood claiming the schedule is too hard and they were due to get blown out is a first for me….Minnesota and Nebraska drained them? Really? You couldn’t give out a day or 2 off vs those teams?
And they’ve been off school for almost a month. No class all ball.
This dude is an absolute low thinking rah rah excuse making loser.