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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: frankiew on January 01, 2023, 07:32:41 AM
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Hopefully it doesn’t mean anything but Skyy just unfollowed IlliniMBB and deleted his commitment post on IG.
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“Hopefully it doesn’t mean anything?” That’s very very bad if you value Skyy Clark at all.
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If it stays down, I’d be surprised to see him with the team Weds (I believe that’s their next game).
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I'd be okay with him leaving. He's got a long ways to go if wants to play at the next level. Both Harris and Epps have passed him up on so many different facets of the game. Its addition by subtraction IMO. Not that Clark can't be good. Just needs to time to cook and get back in game shape.
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Weird it came to all this if true. Gone are the days of developing freshman and 4-year players!
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I'll reserve judgement, but ....
1. Maybe he is injured and he deleted his instagram because he wants to focus on hoops and get off social media.
or,
2. 2 power 5 schools and only lasting 1 semester at the 2 of them combined is not a good look.
or,
3. he's a freshman coming off an injury and becoming a sophomore can't come too soon.
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Hopefully it doesn’t mean anything but Skyy just unfollowed IlliniMBB and deleted his commitment post on IG.
I told him on this board to hit the portal. Good for him.
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I'll reserve judgement, but ....
1. Maybe he is injured and he deleted his instagram because he wants to focus on hoops and get off social media.
Lol
I’ll take “Extremely Unlikely” for $800, Alex.
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Have we reached We Will Be Better Off Without Him territory? I think this may be the quickest ever, if so.
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Have we reached We Will Be Better Off Without Him territory? I think this may be the quickest ever, if so.
Even Mark Smith got 3-5 more days.
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Even Mark Smith got 3-5 more days.
Not bad. Not bad.
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Uh oh. Not ideal.
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Uh oh. Not ideal.
He probably just did it to do focus on the important stuff.
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He probably just did it to do focus on the important stuff.
If true, nobody knows why. This left shoulder injury sort of came out of left field. If it got any publicity at all; I completely missed it. Now it is being blamed for his erratic performances.
0040 (Breal) at loyalty was questioning whether Clark was really injured. Not sure how he meant that. My impression is he was hinting Clark and the staff might not agree on the severity or how to treat it.
Play through pain versus other options?
He is currently day-to-day.
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If he's ready to leave after the slightest adversity and being given starters' minutes and a green light from day one, au revoir - he's not cut out for being a lead guard at this level.
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If he's ready to leave after the slightest adversity and being given starters' minutes and a green light from day one, au revoir - he's not cut out for being a lead guard at this level.
Agreed. That’s Tempo-level pussiness!
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Have we reached We Will Be Better Off Without Him territory? I think this may be the quickest ever, if so.
< Darius Paul has entered the chat >
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< Darius Paul has entered the chat >
Shit he lasted a whole season if I recall…
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< Darius Paul has entered the chat >
Very good call
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If he's ready to leave after the slightest adversity and being given starters' minutes and a green light from day one, au revoir - he's not cut out for being a lead guard at this level.
Can agree with that. Would hate to see him go, but he and we will both go on. Or so says Celine Dionne.
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Some dude on the friendbook says Skyy Clark is gone.
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He gone!
https://twitter.com/illini_guys/status/1611441733023240206?s=46&t=JMYYIv6ZYKbwKD8jgeTrGg
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Started 12 of 13 games and 3 most minutes played and transfers. Wow. He just didn’t get it done.
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Probably because he wasn't vaxxed and was spreading Covid all over the place.
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why?
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Illini will be better off without him? Did Underachiever not visit him in the hospital when he had the flu?
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why?
Chicken eye.
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I hope that at the end of his last practice, someone walked up to him, took a big sniff, and said, "Skyy Clark -- you stink."
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why?
Maybe the head coach is an asshole in addition to being unable to make the second weekend of the Big March Tourney? Maybe some players are jerks? Maybe he hates that Dominic deleted his video on The YouTube?
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maybe he got a taste of Champaign winter and said fuck this shit
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Maybe he just wasn’t good enough.
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Maybe he just wasn’t good enough.
You mean we may have a Skyy Smith situation?
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why?
Dispute over dealing with his fake shoulder booboo?
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Not really surprising but this is just the first domino I’m afraid.
Have a feeling Melendez is next to go. We’re now in “wheels falling off” territory.
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Loyalty is hard to read with all the ads.
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Now the word is he packed up and left but did not quit the team?
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Nichi, what are you doing over there spreading your fake injury claims?
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Yeah word on Loyalty now is that he took a leave of absence and is not transferring.
Also at least one more departure is on the way. Most likely RJ.
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Yeah word on Loyalty now is that he took a leave of absence and is not transferring.
Also at least one more departure is on the way. Most likely RJ.
Apparently Piper claimed it on the radio.
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2qtslow said:
What the heck is a leave of absence? And did MM really take a swing at him in practice?
This happened a while ago before the mizzou game
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2qtslow said:
What the heck is a leave of absence? And did MM really take a swing at him in practice?
This happened a while ago before the mizzou game
2qtslow has a lot of good Bears thoughts, I bet.
If it happened back then, why would this only be coming to a head now?
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oh well. addition by subtraction with Clark.
RJ on the other hand, we need to get that fixed.
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After Texas I'm assuming?
Mizzou shootaround
--regarding mm swinging at Clark
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https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1611482909948497942/photo/1
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Maybe he just wants to get off social media and focus on hoops.
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oh well. addition by subtraction with Clark.
RJ on the other hand, we need to get that fixed.
Right on cue.
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Rough past 4 weeks for Underwood.
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Lol 😂 nichi in ruins.
Good riddance.
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Maybe he just wasn’t good enough.
Bus tossing came at light speed.
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Skyy Clark is taking a leave of absence from basketball for personal reasons.
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Skyy Clark is taking a leave of absence from basketball for personal reasons.
Are you going to wonder if he is faking the personal reasons?
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https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1611482909948497942?t=MTmZ5KzTlCGr2Z_eLPL8XQ&s=19
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Are you going to wonder if he is faking the personal reasons?
Breal 0040 implied he was faking the shoulder injury.
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Either that, or he meant BU was faking the injury report to cover up why Clark didn't play.
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Rumors: SC and MM do not get along. SC might join OTE.
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Breal 0040 implied he was faking the shoulder injury.
I am the only insider that should be listened too
Stop posting bullshit from guys that have no clue about anything.
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Either that, or he meant BU was faking the injury report to cover up why Clark didn't play.
Maybe you should DM Breal at Loyalty to find out. Can you DM over there? There are enough ads to pay for such a service.
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https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1611482909948497942?t=MTmZ5KzTlCGr2Z_eLPL8XQ&s=19
Right now Jsn88Cub is wondering why you do not read his posts
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I am the only insider that should be listened too
Stop posting bullshit from guys that have no clue about anything.
Is it true that Matt Mayer ... oh, nevermind.
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https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1611482909948497942/photo/1
“Has nothing to do with basketball” my ass
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Is it true that Matt Mayer ... oh, nevermind.
Is it true that Matt Mayer is a me first cancer?
Yes, I told you that before he even stepped on the court. After he played a couple games and all his offense consisted of 1 on 1, it should have been apparent to everyone.
I told you Skyy Clark is not athletic enough for this level. That was true.
I told you Ty Rodgers belonged at a lower level. That’s certainly true.
Why are you listening to any insider other than me? Look at the scoreboard on my predictions
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The thing is, 0040 actually has good information. Have no idea where or how he gets it.
Athletic ability is not the issue with Skyy Clark. It's a mental thing. Players can look slow when they are afraid and tentative. Afraid of getting hurt, under pressure to meet expectations, they can play tight and out of sync.
Clark also attended 4 different high schools. He committed to 3 different colleges.
I linked a study in the things we can all agree on thread. Young American adults tend to be very fragile and big on conflict avoidance. They are used to being coddled and protected from danger or failure. I dunno is that relates here, but BU seems to be an old school, confront challenges type of guy ...
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Rumors: SC and MM do not get along. SC might join OTE.
OTE?
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Is it true that Matt Mayer is a me first cancer?
Yes, I told you that before he even stepped on the court. After he played a couple games and all his offense consisted of 1 on 1, it should have been apparent to everyone.
I told you Skyy Clark is not athletic enough for this level. That was true.
I told you Ty Rodgers belonged at a lower level. That’s certainly true.
Why are you listening to any insider other than me? Look at the scoreboard on my predictions
Just checked the scoreboard and you're the poorest person here, who got dumped by Karen, when she found out you live in a dorm.
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The thing is, 0040 actually has good information. Have no idea where or how he gets it.
Breal = Guenther, Jr. is a match.
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Just checked the scoreboard and you're the poorest person here, who got dumped by Karen, when she found out you live in a dorm.
One thing we cannot check anymore is his sweaty YouTube video.
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The thing is, 0040 actually has good information. Have no idea where or how he gets it.
Athletic ability is not the issue with Skyy Clark. It's a mental thing. Players can look slow when they are afraid and tentative. Afraid of getting hurt, under pressure to meet expectations, they can play tight and out of sync.
Clark also attended 4 different high schools. He committed to 3 different colleges.
I linked a study in the things we can all agree on thread. Young American adults tend to be very fragile and big on conflict avoidance. They are used to being coddled and protected from danger or failure. I dunno is that relates here, but BU seems to be an old school, confront challenges type of guy ...
Yep, Underwood's style is pretty outdated for kids of today and I suspect he's a lot more confrontational in practice than what we see on tv.
I've always like coaches who remain composed during games and save the yelling for practice. Can see why Underwood's teams crap the bed in the tourney, since the coach is unable to keep his composure during games.
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One thing we cannot check anymore is his sweaty YouTube video.
Did he remove it in an effort to win back Karen?
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Did he remove it in an effort to win back Karen?
I would think from the sheer humiliation.
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Looks like Underachiever issued a statement supporting the young man's decision to step away right now. I'd post a link, but Nichi will just post a link later anyways.
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I think we now know that the real Illini insider here is Jsn88Cub, since he started this thread. Well done.
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Nichi, ask Breal if he knows how much NIL $ Clark got. That will tell us a little about whether the wording here is an effort to protect that $.
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I would think from the sheer humiliation.
Yeah, I knew he was sweaty from the "marriage pics," but the squeaky voice was a pleasant surprise.
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OTE?
https://overtimeelite.com/
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“Has nothing to do with basketball” my ass
So he either flunked out
Hates the weather or
Needs to skip town because of trouble with the law
Lol
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Looks like Underachiever issued a statement supporting the young man's decision to step away right now. I'd post a link, but Nichi will just post a link later anyways.
https://twitter.com/CoachUnderwood/status/1611505521596719105?t=c4wO8BKlSJqlwtYb04uAzQ&s=19
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So he either flunked out
Hates the weather or
Needs to skip town because of trouble with the law
Lol
Yes, limited to those.
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Go read Loyalty, even after the thread got cleaned up. And they have the nerve to call us The Cesspool. What a bunch of jackasses. Half the people over there are "Dominics" ripping on the kid.
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Go read Loyalty, even after the thread got cleaned up. And they have the nerve to call us The Cesspool. What a bunch of jackasses. Half the people over there are "Dominics" ripping on the kid.
Man babies everywhere
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I mean we rip on people here, but it is usually each other. And coaches. And pro athletes. And doctors (that's for you, Mn!).
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I mean we rip on people here, but it is usually each other. And coaches. And pro athletes. And doctors (that's for you, Mn!).
Say what ?
"the good Dr. at the CDC"
"the good Dr Jha"
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So he either flunked out
Hates the weather or
Needs to skip town because of trouble with the law
Lol
I’ll take “sucks at basketball” for $1000 Alex.
It’s be funny if his NIL cash was on a semester basis and the guy that fronted the 1st semester cash told him to fuck off I don’t pay for 2 star results and Skyy went on strike so to speak
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Go read Loyalty, even after the thread got cleaned up. And they have the nerve to call us The Cesspool. What a bunch of jackasses. Half the people over there are "Dominics" ripping on the kid.
Typically that’s how homers operate.
Nichi thought Mark Smith and Adam Miller were great when they were in the program. But when they leave, all the sudden they suck.
I’m consistent. I say a guy sucks based on evidence. Skyy can suck in an Illini uniform, or he can suck in a Vanderbilt uniform. Makes no difference to me.
And every Illinois Loyalty rumor is the same:
If it’s good news for the program, it’s hyped up and then inevitably the “recruiting is fluid” bs when it turns out not true. If it’s bad news, it’s denied by the “insiders” till made “official”.
If anyone wanted to know how the season would go, should have read my thread from May.
I am the only insider here.
When people were saying Kofi was coming back for 1 million bucks, I said Kofi would declare for the draft. I was right.
When Curbelo missed games last winter and wasn’t back for the Arizona game, I said he’d transfer. I was right.
When Illinois signed Clark, Epps, Harris, Rodgers- I gave assessments of each player. I was right on all of them.
When Mayer signed with Illinois, same thing.
Nichi, you don’t neee to pay for premium sites. Just read my posts. I should charge for them at this point they been so on point.
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A point guard that doesn't pass, doesn't direct players in the half-court game, nor play good defense, especially off the ball.
How will we ever survive...
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It is apparent that Dominic has zero clue what being an "insider" means. Shocking.
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Maybe he just wasn’t good enough.
Maybe he couldn't put out a fire with a shovel and dirt.
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A point guard that doesn't pass, doesn't direct players in the half-court game, nor play good defense, especially off the ball.
How will we ever survive...
But he was a 5-star recruit! [/knuckleheadseverywhere]
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So he either flunked out
Hates the weather or
Needs to skip town because of trouble with the law
Lol
Maybe he just needs some personal time so he can decompress?
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Did he remove it in an effort to win back Karen?
Never saw it, thankfully, but based on what I heard, it was likely an attempt to recover some self-respect.
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But he was a 5-star recruit! [/knuckleheadseverywhere]
Uhm, 4 star. #33
https://247sports.com/Player/Skyy-Clark-46085556/
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Uhm, 4 star. #33
https://247sports.com/Player/Skyy-Clark-46085556/
Which is why I added the knuckleheads tag. But I bet if I tried, I could find 4-5 places calling him a 5-star recruit. Here's the first:
https://illiniguys.com/breaking-former-5-star-point-guard-skyy-clark-leaves-illini-program/
Another:
https://247sports.com/Article/Former-five-star-Skyy-Clark-leaving-Illinois-Clark-confirms-202296734/
Another: (the URL says 4-star, but the headline and text say 5-star)
https://www.thechampaignroom.com/2022/4/7/23010930/4-star-pg-skyy-clark-commits-to-illinois-fighting-illini-ncaa-big-ten-brad-underwood
And 4 already:
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10029011-5-star-pg-skyy-clark-commits-to-illinois-after-decommitting-from-kentucky
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I mean we rip on people here, but it is usually each other. And coaches. And pro athletes. And doctors (that's for you, Mn!).
Or Skyy Smith.
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Best of luck to him. This obviously didn't work out and is super disappointing that he couldn't be what we wanted but I'd rather have this happen now and give the other freshmen guards a chance to develop in additional PT so we can be better next year.
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Best of luck to him. This obviously didn't work out and is super disappointing that he couldn't be what we wanted but I'd rather have this happen now and give the other freshmen guards a chance to develop in additional PT so we can be better next year.
I’d usually prefer to see transfers at the end of the year (if they are going to happen), but that’s one way to put a positive spin on it.
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Who was worse, Mark Smith or Skyy Clark?
Should I start a thread
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Who was worse, Mark Smith or Skyy Clark?
Should I start a thread
3-5 of 'em.
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Listening to Luke Goode on the Tay and Piper show, it doesn't sound like he's gonna miss Sky at all.
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Listening to Luke Goode on the Tay and Piper show, it doesn't sound like he's gonna miss Sky at all.
Anything specific?
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Anything specific?
Was pretty dimissive of Sky and said the team is excited to have Epps get alot of minutes.
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Was pretty dimissive of Sky and said the team is excited to have Epps get alot of minutes.
Epps definitely deserves them over Skyy.
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https://www.podbean.com/ew/pb-m3yhz-1357e0a
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3-5 of 'em.
Oh brother. At least the odds are good you will forget the password in two hours.
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Do we know who allegedly got hurt in practice and where is the WI game thread?
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Did anyone notice that the Skyy Clark thread at Loyalty got nuked? All of Nichi's hot takes in that thread gone. Glad this place is around.
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Do we know who allegedly got hurt in practice and where is the WI game thread?
It was Mayer but I guess it wasn't that serious.
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Supposedly there was a squirmish at practice. That must be queasy skirmish? Someone said Mayer took a swing at Clark.
Apparently someone saw Servin in a walking boot. Thought it was Mayer. Stories got conflated. Rumor Mayer broke his foot.
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Supposedly there was a squirmish at practice. That must be queasy skirmish? Someone said Mayer took a swing at Clark.
Apparently someone saw Servin in a walking boot. Thought it was Mayer. Stories got conflated. Rumor Mayer boke his foot.
Was this on The Twitter or Loyalty or both?
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Was this on The Twitter or Loyalty or both?
Bits and pieces from both.
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heard it was a dispute over NIL money because Mayer is getting more
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https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1623519746686582789?t=4Rtofx0_-MrzgaOiOtgSUQ&s=19
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https://twitter.com/skyyclark/status/1623529823015669761?t=snyCyhANU1vBK9wRTRltzw&s=19
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Well he's playing against a dog shit defense in those videos so yay?
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Well he's playing against a dog shit defense in those videos so yay?
I thought, somewhat, the same thing.
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Someone called them the Alex Legion files.
He's still on the roster, apparently taking some kind of personal leave. I wonder what his motive is in posting those now. Attention? Fixing to enter the portal?
He does look more athletic and skilled than he showed in games. Does better competition reduce speed, quickness, vertical leap?
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Someone called them the Alex Legion files.
He's still on the roster, apparently taking some kind of personal leave. I wonder what his motive is in posting those now. Attention? Fixing to enter the portal?
He does look more athletic and skilled than he showed in games. Does better competition reduce speed, quickness, vertical leap?
If you play against more athletic guys you look slower in comparison.
Duh
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Well he's playing against a dog shit defense in those videos so yay?
We could have used him on the scout team to prep for tPSU.
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We could have used him on the scout team to prep for tPSU.
yes that surely would have made a difference in the outcome ;D
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I’d love to see him come back. Always willing to give a highly rated freshman coming off an ACL a little more time to adjust. I bet he’d be just fine with 3-5 more mpg.
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His passes looked crisp and decisive. He was driving past defenders. In games I watched he mostly looked slow and tentative.
I can see that Clark might look relatively quick playing against Conner Servin or Brandon Lieb. But while this team is not the Flyin' Illini, they aren't Wisconsin either.
Also, he looked explosive getting off the floor pretty and dunking. We weren't seeing much of this. Does slow competition somehow improve vertical leap?
I think it's mental. Alex Legion Syndrome. Performance anxiety.
The videos while he was rehabbing after the injury are as irrelevant as those before the injury.
That he was released from UK is also moot. His recruiting coaches left. That happens.
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I’d love to see him come back. Always willing to give a highly rated freshman coming off an ACL a little more time to adjust. I bet he’d be just fine with 3-5 more mpg.
Gotta prove those star ratings right, amirite?
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Gotta prove those star ratings right, amirite?
He was offered by COK, so there must have been something there originally.
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Shocked Pikachu face
https://twitter.com/TiptonEdits/status/1634948411140227072
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Skyy Clark, Brandon podziemski, Adam Miller, Andre curbelo.
I understand the transfer portal is becoming a bigger thing, but losing these guards that have obvious potential is becoming a concerning trend.
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Clark was a freshman who expected to play like a junior and he played like a freshman. He should go mid-major but will probably go somewhere like Louisville and be mediocre.
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Clark was a freshman who expected to play like a junior and he played like a freshman. He should go mid-major but will probably go somewhere like Louisville and be mediocre.
Aside from a couple of early games, he never looked special. I am going back through the awful Mizzou game recording to see if he got exposed.
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He’s another Kristian Lander. Will be a nonfactor at any level he’s at.
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He’ll probably go on to be a 2x All-American at Louisville. Because…Illinois.
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Skyy Clark, Brandon podziemski, Adam Miller, Andre curbelo.
I understand the transfer portal is becoming a bigger thing, but losing these guards that have obvious potential is becoming a concerning trend.
Brandon P is the only one you mentioned that has made us look bad, and he is Mr. Everything on the west coast.
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Skyy Clark, Brandon podziemski, Adam Miller, Andre curbelo.
I understand the transfer portal is becoming a bigger thing, but losing these guards that have obvious potential is becoming a concerning trend.
I believe it came down to Pods or Skyy and we chose Skyy. Yeah that turned out to be a swing and a miss. No way around it.
Not sure Miller's 33% shooting and lack of D would have been any help to us this year.
Curbelo would have fit in with the extreme bipolar nature of this group. Seems maturity is still a struggle for him though.
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Brandon P is the only one you mentioned that has made us look bad, and he is Mr. Everything on the west coast.
He also is the main guy on the team in an extremely shitty conference
I've actually watched some of their games since they are the only thing on late night and the competition every night is similar to our usual first 3-5 cupcakes of the year
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He also is the main guy on the team in an extremely shitty conference
Schedule sucks but he played well overall against tourney teams:
@Gonzaga: 14/3/1
Gonzaga: 17/7/5
@St Marys: 7/3/0
St Marys: 19/9/3
Boise: 18/10/2
Iona: 27/9/2
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Will the Illini be better off without Epps? Because I keep.reading elsewhere he is next to go. So much for QAnon97's rebuilding year....
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Underwood created a year worth of negative recruiting tape for other programs to use.
We worked hard all year on not running offense and executing. We saved our best for a 1 and done game.
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Clark was a freshman who expected to play like a junior and he played like a freshman. He should go mid-major but will probably go somewhere like Louisville and be mediocre.
nailed it
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Will the Illini be better off without Epps? Because I keep.reading elsewhere he is next to go. So much for QAnon97's rebuilding year....
Epps isnt a pg and I'd rather have Harris at the 2 the next 3 years, who plays better d and has a better attitude.
Underwood needs to find a pg, who can shoot at least 35% from 3.
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Will the Illini be better off without Epps? Because I keep.reading elsewhere he is next to go. So much for QAnon97's rebuilding year....
Defensively? Absolutely, he was a turnstile
Offensively? ehhhh we shall see, he didn't light the world on fire, but I thought he'd be a good 4 year player for us...
more of a combo guard than a point guard, we really need a point guard badly
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we really need a point guard badly
Please don’t give me flashbacks to the Groce years 😩
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The guy from Italy will save us.
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There is a pretty good point guard who scored 28 points leading his team to an IHSA championship. His parents are big Illini fans. His brother is on the baseball team. He'll be attending Iowa.
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The guy from Italy will save us.
He can play.
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There is a pretty good point guard who scored 28 points leading his team to an IHSA championship. His parents are big Illini fans. His brother is on the baseball team. He'll be attending Iowa.
well gibbs lawhorn will be coming so hopefully he can play point guard lol
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He can play.
Why didn’t he then?
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Why didn’t he then?
He's a 2023. Why would he use a full year's eligibility to play the second semester? He enrolled early to work with Fletcher.
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So did Jayden Epps...down to Harris, sencirely hope he stays.
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So did Jayden Epps...down to Harris, sencirely hope he stays.
Rodgers?