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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Lkdog on February 13, 2021, 10:54:38 AM
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I have never been a huge Ayo fan, but he has learned to work within his limits, only shoot wide open threes, and is really maximizing what he does best in midrange and when there are open lanes.
Passing better, rebounding better, getting to his left better, better crossover, guarding a little bit, and even dunking.
TOs are still an issue, but will take it as part of the other improvements in last few weeks.
I think he gives us a shot to go deep in NCAA as he draws fouls at high rate now even when they know he is coming.
I think he will be in NBA and play.
All credit to the kid.
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Ayo has improved a lot as a passer and a ball handler this year, which gives him a shot at the NBA. He still has to improve his shooting some more, but I think he will.
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Yeah, one thing you can never say about him is that he isn’t a hard worker. He has worked his ass off to get where he’s at.
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Even as an Illini fan I never really quite understood the hype he got until recently. Maybe it was all the hype out of HS expecting a one and done type talent.
Garza kinda the same way. There’s not much wow factor to their respective games then the announcer says they have 25+ points and a pile of other stats and I’m thinking whaaaaat..
Both are great college players that have big NBA question marks although Ayo seems to have worked hard enough to be playing himself into a decent draft window.
I hope Ayo cements his legacy and draft status in the late season and tourney like Deron did, although Ayo’s draft ceiling certainly isn’t that high. Hopefully we can parlay the Ayo and Kofi success stories into some elite replacement recruits.
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Hopefully we can parlay the Ayo and Kofi success stories into some elite replacement recruits.
This is a must!
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Yesterday on the Scorat Boar, one of their faceless moderators wrote that Frank Williams, while good, was never "in the same zip code as Ayo."
The rest of the community took turns whipping him.
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Yesterday on the Scorat Boar, one of their faceless moderators wrote that Frank Williams, while good, was never "in the same zip code as Ayo."
The rest of the community took turns whipping him.
Even I’m not as stupid to say something that fucking stupid! Fuck those idiots! ;D
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Even I’m not as stupid to say something that fucking stupid! Fuck those idiots! ;D
Prior to this year I would say there was really not much to discuss. Ayo was a pretty nice college scorer with no left hand who couldn't guard.
Ayo has shown a lot more game in last few weeks actually. I believe it was OSU and MD who totally took away his right hand and he had to adjust.
Somewhere in last month he developed both a crossover and the ability to dunk in traffic in games.
His O numbers are quite a bit are better than Frank's across the board. His Royal Frankness was waaaaay better defender on ball and off ball. Better passer. Better ballhandler.
Better BB IQ. Played in an era where college BB was stronger. Frank was just fucking money in crunch time.
Ayo will be a 1st team AA on most lists.
If we make EE I would call it a wash. Otherwise- advantage Frank.
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Multiple replies in this thread talking about Ayo being a hard worker.
I'm going to look into the archives to see if I ever hear that said from the cheap seats about Frank
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Although I remember the flak Frank took for coasting/dogging, I don’t know much about his work ethic. I think it’s safe to say he was a more naturally gifted basketball player than Ayo.
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They both have a lot of natural talent.
Frank was lazy in the same way that Amanda Knox conspired to kill her roommate.
People project their ideas and fantasies onto others. It's not fair, but it happens. And sometimes you spend a year in prison for it.
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They both have a lot of natural talent.
Frank was lazy in the same way that Amanda Knox conspired to kill her roommate.
People project their ideas and fantasies onto others. It's not fair, but it happens. And sometimes you spend a year in prison for it.
Wait you don’t think Amanda Knox conspired to kill her roommate?! Yeah, you’re one naive motherfucker. No wonder you never answered my post about OJ. You probably think he’s actually innocent as well 🤯
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It feels gross just to be involved in a conversation where someone says Amanda Knox is anything but a victim of idiocy, bad policing and conspiracy trolls on the web.
That said, it wouldn't stun me if you were actually serious.
I was in my first semester of law school when hte OJ case concluded. We were all let out of class to watch it, in the big atrium. All the black students cheered.
OJ had means, motive and opportunity. The LAPD had a history of abhorrent & unlawful treatment of black people; including violence, murder and manufacturing evidence. The lesson of the OJ verdict is that if you want to allow your country to be "policed" by tribalist warriors, you'd better not allow any out-group members on the jury.
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It feels gross just to be involved in a conversation where someone says Amanda Knox is anything but a victim of idiocy, bad policing and conspiracy trolls on the web.
That said, it wouldn't stun me if you were actually serious.
I was in my first semester of law school when hte OJ case concluded. We were all let out of class to watch it, in the big atrium. All the black students cheered.
OJ had means, motive and opportunity. The LAPD had a history of abhorrent & unlawful treatment of black people; including violence, murder and manufacturing evidence. The lesson of the OJ verdict is that if you want to allow your country to be "policed" by tribalist warriors, you'd better not allow any out-group members on the jury.
And yet here YOU are, spreading conspiracy theories yourself. Seriously can’t make this shit up. Like you legitimately play off your opinions like they’re facts. And then anyone who has a different one than you, you belittle as if they’re somehow beneath you. It’s quite comical actually. The sad part is you have other trolls on this board who side with you.
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(https://media1.tenor.com/images/33ac1d3d429cda1835eca2992d0f9c88/tenor.gif?itemid=5112090)
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Which non-facts did I assert as facts?
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I almost feel bad. It's been nearly three hours and I'm picturing Judy knee deep in old threads, trying to find a post that proves his point.
As usual, he has (in my mind's picture) a pencil thin peach fuzz porn 'stache.
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No judgment. Props to any free dude who can rock a porn stache.
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Does Coleman’s count?
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Does Coleman’s count?
Twice.
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Wait you don’t think Amanda Knox conspired to kill her roommate?! Yeah, you’re one naive motherfucker. No wonder you never answered my post about OJ. You probably think he’s actually innocent as well 🤯
Yes, I’m sure Amanda Knox killed her roommate in a Satanic sex game and then removed her own DNA from the scene, just like the prosecutor said.
It definitely wasn’t the guy who had a history of armed break-ins, whose fingerprints and bloody palm print were found at the scene, who fled the country immediately after the murder, and was tried, convincted, and imprisoned for the murder.
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That would be too easy.
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Yes, I’m sure Amanda Knox killed her roommate in a Satanic sex game and then removed her own DNA from the scene, just like the prosecutor said.
It definitely wasn’t the guy who had a history of armed break-ins, whose fingerprints and bloody palm print were found at the scene, who fled the country immediately after the murder, and was tried, convincted, and imprisoned for the murder.
Read "The Monster of Florence" by Preston and Spezi. This shit happens all the time over there.
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Turns out Italians actually are more emotional & less rational than, say, Danes.
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Ayo, what a freaking stud, and congrats on the props. No idea how to post videos here yet so not trying:
https://twitter.com/BigTenNetwork/status/1362111452539219971
And if you want to read the reddit comments have at it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/CollegeBasketball/comments/lm23l3/ladies_and_gentlemen_the_ayo_dosunmu_b1g_dagger/
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Kind of hard to believe, but Ayo is serious contender for POY in college BB if he keeps this up. He is at a totally different level now.
We have real shot for deep run if we D and reduce TOs.
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Kind of hard to believe, but Ayo is serious contender for POY in college BB if he keeps this up. He is at a totally different level now.
We have real shot for deep run if we D and reduce TOs.
And make free throws.
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Any word on Ayo playing tonight??
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It's hard to see through the smoke screen if its there, but as of yesterday Brad said Ayo was day to day but did not indicate anything other than a Broken nose. If Ayo only other injury suffered was from a moderate or minor concussion from the MSU game, typical protocol is to sit out a week, which could make him eligible to play tonight if that was indeed the case.
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I’m not sure I’d play him if I were Underwood unless he’s feeling close to 100%. Otherwise he doesn’t help the team much and he’s at risk to aggravate the injury. Seeding committee isn’t gonna punish us too bad for losing @MI and @OSU without the potential NCAA POY able to play. On the other hand sure would be nice to have him lead us to 1-2 huge wins this week to solidify a 1 seed. And I am sure he’s dying to play.
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Ayo's warming up...
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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvfPHcBXAAgp1Tc?format=jpg&name=4096x4096)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EvfPHcBXAAgp1Tc?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
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Interesting.
(https://crookedllama.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/Calvin-Ellis-Black-Superman.jpg)
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Ayo's warming up...
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The Brain!
I still live my life by his motto. Win if you can. Lose if you must. But always cheat!
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If It's possible, I wouldn't mind getting Ayo some floor time. There always seems to be an adjustment period to playing with a mask.
His health comes first tho.
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My thought FWIW is that if he plays it will be score based.
If we are within 8-10 points he goes 25-30 min.
If it gets out of hand, he sits in second half of second half.
I don't see a scenario where he is cleared to go but only plays 10-15 minutes.
Who knows. It's good he is warming up as we will have him in BTT and NCAA
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The legend of Ayo seems to be taking shape nicely
watch him drop 25/8/8 in a victory tonight
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The legend of Ayo seems to be taking shape nicely
watch him drop 25/8/8 in a victory tonight
It would be a helluva game to create a legacy if he plays and plays well and we pull it out somehow - or even take them to the wire as a great warmup to NCAA.
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Supposedly question if Team MD will clear him for tonight.
Hope he is ready for BTT and NCAA's.
Fuck Izzo.
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Well this sucks. I love how hard we have been playing without him but this will likely be ugly tonight.
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Well this sucks. I love how hard we have been playing without him but this will likely be ugly tonight.
This was a pretty brave prediction, but it ended up 100% correct. 😉
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Playing today.
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This was a pretty brave prediction, but it ended up 100% correct. 😉
The further you go back the more entertaining they get ;D
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I don’t really see much argument for Garza over Ayo for NPOY, yet even today many seem to be saying Garza leads. Missing a few games hurt Ayo’s momentum, but he did come back to lead the team to a 1 seed clinching win on the road at #7. Ayo’s season, Illinois resurgence, his story, his historic stat line, the triple doubles is just too perfect...plus Garza got it last year. Only reason I can think of to justify giving it to Garza is to spread the wealth a little. But then again Kofi is getting completely hosed in most of these lists.
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I don’t really see much argument for Garza over Ayo for NPOY, yet even today many seem to be saying Garza leads. Missing a few games hurt Ayo’s momentum, but he did come back to lead the team to a 1 seed clinching win on the road at #7. Ayo’s season, Illinois resurgence, his story, his historic stat line, the triple doubles is just too perfect...plus Garza got it last year. Only reason I can think of to justify giving it to Garza is to spread the wealth a little. But then again Kofi is getting completely hosed in most of these lists.
I could see some weird splits between BTPOY and NPOY and one of the Gonzaga guys playing D3 teams sliding in.
I like Kofi a lot, but he has a lot of competition at his slot in BIG and nationally.
Ayo has made quite a case down the stretch and Garza has been just pretty good.
If UM loses today we are ranked #2 in country and best team in BIG which is arguably a notch above the B12.
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Nice write up of Ayo here by Rob...
"Dos Mamba, the Masked Dagger"
https://illinireport.info/2021/03/dos-mamba-the-masked-dagger/ (https://illinireport.info/2021/03/dos-mamba-the-masked-dagger/)
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Nice write up of Ayo here by Rob...
"Dos Mamba, the Masked Dagger"
https://illinireport.info/2021/03/dos-mamba-the-masked-dagger/ (https://illinireport.info/2021/03/dos-mamba-the-masked-dagger/)
Nice.
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Ayo says he likes the nickname, but was unaware of the ongoing marketing campaign.
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Ayo says he likes the nickname, but was unaware of the ongoing marketing campaign.
Love the piece and the moniker! Let me know about the IPO.
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Unfortunately, high winds in C-U affected the quality of today's Zoom. So I'm not completely sure what he said.
But I gather that he's off social media right now, and didn't realize the DIA staff was busy crafting a legend.
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Great read.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2021/3/11/22321106/ayo-dosunmu-illinois-basketball-illini-ncaa-tournament-2021
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Great read.
https://www.sbnation.com/college-basketball/2021/3/11/22321106/ayo-dosunmu-illinois-basketball-illini-ncaa-tournament-2021
It was. Thanks!
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Thanks. A well done article.
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https://twitter.com/BryanKalbrosky/status/1408165460877754368?s=19
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https://twitter.com/BryanKalbrosky/status/1408165460877754368?s=19
That NBA team was better off without him.
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That NBA team was better off without him.
He might develop into a rotation guy somewhere. Had an extraordinary stretch with us in second half this year. NBA is entirely different animal and he will need to find a niche. Good luck to him.
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/vocal-rookie-ayo-dosunmu-focused-bringing-energy-bulls
This is the way he sees the court at all in the near future.
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Pretty good game for Ayo in his regular season debut for the Bulls. 7 points and 2 rebounds in 11 minutes.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401359834
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1450996010071859202?s=21
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He had a much better preseason than summer league.
Doing a few things for them. Should get some tick until Coby White comes back which could be awhile.
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Pretty good game for Ayo in his regular season debut for the Bulls. 7 points and 2 rebounds in 11 minutes.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401359834
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1450996010071859202?s=21
3-8 shooting, 1 for 3 with 2 rebounds and 1 turnover? Jackson pinned a layup and thats alot of shooting in 11 minutes...still say defense is his ticket.?
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He had a much better preseason than summer league.
Doing a few things for them. Should get some tick until Coby White comes back which could be awhile.
We will just have to imagine for now how much better the Bulls will be without him.
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We will just have to imagine for now how much better the Bulls will be without him.
Good project for you. Report back when you figure that out.
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Good project for you. Report back when you figure that out.
Woooosh....
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Woooosh....
What is it that everyone here tells you to do…….something like “shut up bitch”???
Good advice.
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What is it that everyone here tells you to do…….something like “shut up bitch”???
Good advice.
Thank you, Lkdog
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What is it that everyone here tells you to do…….something like “shut up bitch”???
Good advice.
You actually are the moron that Custard says you are after all. Fucking doofus.
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If Illini sports were remotely interesting, Tempo and Jobu would not be at each other's throats.
If LK actually read the board, he would not post such stupid shit.
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Wait, some of you actually read the posts on here?
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Wait, some of you actually read the posts on here?
I would say that yes, some do
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Wait, some of you actually read the posts on here?
Apparently you did 🤔
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You actually are the moron that Custard says you are after all. Fucking doofus.
I see PAMan is really butthurt again today.
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I see PAMan is really butthurt again today.
When isn’t he? All he does is troll and complain.
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I see PAMan is really butthurt again today.
Doofus, I've been making fun of those posters here who keep saying Illinois will be better without Ayo since the end of last season. Get with it. JFC.
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Doofus, I've been making fun of those posters here who keep saying Illinois will be better without Ayo since the end of last season. Get with it. JFC.
Illinois could be better because they replaced Ayo and Miller with 5 shooters. Plus, despite losing GB, they appear to have better interior depth.
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Doofus, I've been making fun of those posters here who keep saying Illinois will be better without Ayo since the end of last season. Get with it. JFC.
Did you even watch the games? Didn't think so.
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Illinois could be better because they replaced Ayo and Miller with 5 shooters. Plus, despite losing GB, they appear to have better interior depth.
Will be different team. I would be surprised if they win only one game in the NCAAs like last year.
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Did you even watch the games? Didn't think so.
I watched more games than posts you have read here, apparently.
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I watched more games than posts you have read here, apparently.
Oh, I see...you read internet forums to get your information about basketball.
That explains a lot of things. Got it.
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Oh, I see...you read internet forums to get your information about basketball.
That explains a lot of things. Got it.
That makes no sense in response to what i wrote.
Bulls seem to be doing better with Ayo on the team.
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Illinois could be better because they replaced Ayo and Miller with 5 shooters. Plus, despite losing GB, they appear to have better interior depth.
I’ll be completely honest. I don’t follow nearly as close as I used to, and didn’t follow the off season at all. Who are these 5 new shooters?
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That makes no sense in response to what i wrote.
Bulls seem to be doing better with Ayo on the team.
Actually it does.
And, the Bulls... Yeah they added some very good players.
Ayo didn't even play last game.
We know you love Ayo. He was very good here.
We could be better team this year for a lot of reasons.
Doesn't make him a bad player.
You seem to be taking this concept very personal.
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Actually it does.
And, the Bulls... Yeah they added some very good players.
Ayo didn't even play last game.
We know you love Ayo. He was very good here.
We could be better team this year for a lot of reasons.
Doesn't make him a bad player.
You seem to be taking this concept very personal.
I am his father.
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I’ll be completely honest. I don’t follow nearly as close as I used to, and didn’t follow the off season at all. Who are these 5 new shooters?
I think referring to Plummer who is a proven threat from 3.
And then Hutcherson who is supposedly a shooter.
And then the 3 freshman who are supposed to be able to shoot.
Will see how this plays out.
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I am his father.
Ok, now that is funny. I laughed.
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Ok, now that is funny. I laughed.
Thank you.
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Thank you.
;D
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I think referring to Plummer who is a proven threat from 3.
And then Hutcherson who is supposedly a shooter.
And then the 3 freshman who are supposed to be able to shoot.
Will see how this plays out.
Sounds promising. And a lot like the scouting reports of the Illini I’ve seen on forums like this for the past 20 years.
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I’ll be completely honest. I don’t follow nearly as close as I used to, and didn’t follow the off season at all. Who are these 5 new shooters?
Goode
Plummer
Podziemski
Hutcherson
McGavin
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Goode
Plummer
Podziemski
Hutcherson
McGavin
Deadly. Certainly more than makes up for the loss of a Wooden Award finalist.
Especially looking forward to seeing Shooter McGavin play for the Illini.
Can’t wait to watch him chip with two fat naked bikers having sex in the woods off of 17.
https://images.app.goo.gl/eVvXmRMCZib7XVkq9
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We added a bouncy big in Payne which we desperately needed for help with ball screen defense.
We needed a proven 3 point shooter that can get his own shot and make contested threes. Plummer is a veteran who has done that in a P5 league that smoked the B1G in the tourney last year. He replaces Ace Puppy.
National sports writers have been in to see practices and think Hutcherson is the real deal. He had a very good, highly efficient exhibition the other night (admittedly against a horrible opponent). But he looked like a star on a team with two likely AAs. He’s probably the guy that most makes up for the loss of Ayo due to his length and athleticism.
The guards will have to replace Ayo’s production by committee. Frazier will step back into a lead scoring role whereas he took a backseat to Ayo the last few years. We already know he can do it. We saw it his freshman year and when Ayo went down last season.
DMW and Curbelo will almost certainly score more ppg than last year.
I don’t expect much from the freshmen other than spot minutes , garbage time or if we get into foul trouble.
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We added a bouncy big in Payne which we desperately needed for help with ball screen defense.
We needed a proven 3 point shooter that can get his own shot and make contested threes. Plummer is a veteran who has done that in a P5 league that smoked the B1G in the tourney last year. He replaces Ace Puppy.
National sports writers have been in to see practices and think Hutcherson is the real deal. He had a very good, highly efficient exhibition the other night (admittedly against a horrible opponent). But he looked like a star on a team with two likely AAs. He’s probably the guy that most makes up for the loss of Ayo due to his length and athleticism.
The guards will have to replace Ayo’s production by committee. Frazier will step back into a lead scoring role whereas he took a backseat to Ayo the last few years. We already know he can do it. We saw it his freshman year and when Ayo went down last season.
DMW and Curbelo will almost certainly score more ppg than last year.
I don’t expect much from the freshmen other than spot minutes , garbage time or if we get into foul trouble.
Here’s some more poetry, fuckers.
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Hope that post wasn’t aimed at Tempo because he won’t read it. Too many words.
I enjoyed it tho.
It's a team game.
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We added a bouncy big in Payne which we desperately needed for help with ball screen defense.
We needed a proven 3 point shooter that can get his own shot and make contested threes. Plummer is a veteran who has done that in a P5 league that smoked the B1G in the tourney last year. He replaces Ace Puppy.
National sports writers have been in to see practices and think Hutcherson is the real deal. He had a very good, highly efficient exhibition the other night (admittedly against a horrible opponent). But he looked like a star on a team with two likely AAs. He’s probably the guy that most makes up for the loss of Ayo due to his length and athleticism.
The guards will have to replace Ayo’s production by committee. Frazier will step back into a lead scoring role whereas he took a backseat to Ayo the last few years. We already know he can do it. We saw it his freshman year and when Ayo went down last season.
DMW and Curbelo will almost certainly score more ppg than last year.
I don’t expect much from the freshmen other than spot minutes , garbage time or if we get into foul trouble.
Put this with enough depth to play 40 minutes of defense. I'm good.
(https://i.ibb.co/gRB04wn/Screenshot-20211026-205937.jpg) (https://ibb.co/RDVXjP5)
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Hope that post wasn’t aimed at Tempo because he won’t read it. Too many words.
I enjoyed it tho.
Lol had the same thought as I was typing it. Has to be two small paragraphs or less for him to read it and Twitter length video for him to watch it.
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I read it. It was meh to ok.
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What a game by Ayo tonight. Didn’t miss a shot. Highest +/- on the team and hit a clutch shot in the 4th to take the lead.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401359922
https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1455347421081268224?s=21
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Awesome.
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Noice.
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Highly convinced Ayo could contribute at this level sooner rather than later. Great to see. Bulls are kinda good…
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Highly convinced Ayo could contribute at this level sooner rather than later. Great to see. Bulls are kinda good…
He already is.
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Winning some time with effort and IQ.
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He already is.
Here’s Judge Judy, keeping me in check on the tiniest morsel of AOTCedness I might have laid claim to. His life’s mission.
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Ayo does appear to be earning more meaningful time. The 6-6 game has to help his confidence and he hit 2 threes. His stroke looks a little better.
They play him off the ball which is key as he is never going to be a lead guard, so his TO's are down which is good.
He was struggling before the last game (5-20 overall) but maybe this will help him.
Questions were could he score a little bit at this level, not turn it over, shoot the three enough to keep them honest and open up the drive on closeouts, and guard anybody.
So far not bad for him.
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Questions were could he score a little bit at this level, not turn it over, shoot the three enough to keep them honest and open up the drive on closeouts, and guard anybody.
So far not bad for him.
So in other words, the questions were “could he play at this level?” I can’t imagine anyone thought they were going to have him playing with the ball in his hands at this point in his career.
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So in other words, the questions were “could he play at this level?” I can’t imagine anyone thought they were going to have him playing with the ball in his hands at this point in his career.
Our staff and his people and he did. We were doing an NBA marketing tour for him all year. Part of the reason the Miller clan was pissed off. He wanted that also. The 2020 team was better overall as Feliz and Trent played on the ball more, Ayo off more in the second half. We were a really good team down the stretch.
He wanted to be seen as a combo guard at next level and is certainly working on his game to try and be able to do that
to increase his value. Does a lot of things fairly well. He works hard and he could stick around.
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20 mins last night 15 pts 7 rbs
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20 mins last night 15 pts 7 rbs
Saw a reporter mention that it hadn’t been done by a Bulls guard since 1984
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Looks like the Bull is much better with Ayo.
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Saw a reporter mention that it hadn’t been done by a Bulls guard since 1984
I wonder who that guy that did it before was
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Saw a reporter mention that it hadn’t been done by a Bulls guard since 1984
Did he mean a Bulls rookie?
MJ averaged 28/6.5 his rookie year.
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Did he mean a Bulls rookie?
MJ averaged 28/6.5 his rookie year.
a rookie, in 20 minutes, during a new moon, in November? idk
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a rookie, in 20 minutes, during a new moon, in November? idk
LOL.
Well, Ayo has had some good games in any event. He passed one guy in the rotation.
Will be interesting to see how they use White when he returns and how it impacts Ayo's minutes.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2021/11/9/22772325/bulls-ayo-dosunmu-making-impact-coby-white (https://chicago.suntimes.com/bulls/2021/11/9/22772325/bulls-ayo-dosunmu-making-impact-coby-white)
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Ayo having himself a game tonight against Harden, Durant, and the Nets.
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https://twitter.com/ecnerwal23/status/1467504810748530692?s=21
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https://twitter.com/ecnerwal23/status/1467504810748530692?s=21
That's fucking awesome.
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Didn't Truth/Toll Booth Willie/Plaza tell us Ayo was going to suck in the NBA?
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Bulls are a very fun team to watch, definitely would recommend catching them when you can
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Bulls are a very fun team to watch, definitely would recommend catching them when you can
Very fun. The Slash Brothers are pretty tough. Ayo fits in nicely and they play as a team.
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Didn't Truth/Toll Booth Willie/Plaza tell us Ayo was going to suck in the NBA?
Well I never posted on this board but I said he’d never be a 1st rounder. He wasn’t.
I think his niche is what he’s doing with the Bulls. Off the bench, play defense. His ceiling is a guy like Iman Shumpert. He’ll never be an All Star, but he’s a guy that can contribute.
Ayo really makes Coby White look like an absolute bust
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Well I never posted on this board but I said he’d never be a 1st rounder. He wasn’t.
I think his niche is what he’s doing with the Bulls. Off the bench, play defense. His ceiling is a guy like Iman Shumpert. He’ll never be an All Star, but he’s a guy that can contribute.
Ayo really makes Coby White look like an absolute bust
Oh c'mon, you posted on the HQ OG board....
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https://streamable.com/4ysj8w
wow what a stuff!
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I never envisioned the high school Ayo dunking and blocking shots in the NBA.
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He has become much more explosive since being on an NBA training program.
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He has become much more explosive since being on an NBA training program.
Must be using that training tool that makes you jump higher. The one Jeff Frank thought gave us an advantage 15 years ago.
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4 month old article on Ayo that seems pretty accurate. Talks about a "hypermodern pass, dribble, shoot wing" replacing the "traditional 3-and-D player" and predicts that role for Ayo..Hybrid 3&D and point forward?
Says: "Ayo is a fantastic decision-maker who was able to master advanced concepts while still playing at the college level"
https://ontapsportsnet.com/2021/08/07/ayo-dosunmu-chicago-bulls-nba-draft-pick-scouting-report-film-breakdown/
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Ayo reminds me of guys like Lavert, KCP, Shumpert where they aren’t great at anything, and if you give them a big contract it’s going to look stupid, but are still good enough pieces to be in the rotation of NBA teams. Defend, dribble, be a threat on offense, fairly long wing players.
Then you compare those guys who have long NBA careers to more hyped guys that flame out such as Romeo Langford and wonder why they make careers and others don’t.
The guy I missed on was Lamelo Ball. I thought he would suck in the NBA based on his lack of athleticism,his average play in lower leagues overseas, and he’s on his way to possibly the Hall of Fame
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Nobody gives a shit
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Nobody gives a shit
Just put him on ignore. I'd still rather read his (non-racist) posts than anything written by a moron hypocrite POS like JudgeJerkoff. But that is just me.
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Didn’t know Robb was a cancel culture fan.
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Just put him on ignore. I'd still rather read his (non-racist) posts than anything written by a moron hypocrite POS like JudgeJerkoff. But that is just me.
Oh boy.
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Must be using that training tool that makes you jump higher. The one Jeff Frank thought gave us an advantage 15 years ago.
😆 I remember that
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One more reason to abandon this shithole. People actually giving any kind of credence to Truth.
Well done, dipshits.
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Didn’t figure Jobu and Robb for censorship freaks. Seriously, who cares. You’re free to read it OR not read it.
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One more reason to abandon this shithole. People actually giving any kind of credence to Truth.
Well done, dipshits.
When did you turn into such a pussy?
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Robb has been trying to censor me for 10 years though, so guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
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When did you turn into such a pussy?
Honestly, I feel like the level of civility around here has improved since Jobu went and hid again.
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Honestly, I feel like the level of civility around here has improved since Jobu went and hid again.
Guess you didn’t see the shit ThePAMan posted huh…
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Honestly, I feel like the level of civility around here has improved since Jobu went and hid again.
That's not any fun....
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Honestly, I feel like the level of civility around here has improved since Jobu went and hid again.
Many enjoy his contributions. I am quite sure he is here for fun, like most of us. We are not addressing systemic racism, climate change, SCOTUS corruption, or the income inequality gap here.
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When did you turn into such a pussy?
Lol
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Didn’t figure Jobu and Robb for censorship freaks. Seriously, who cares. You’re free to read it OR not read it.
Never said a damn word about censoring anything or anybody. If you guys want to engage Truth, do it. I think it’s dumb to talk to someone like that but if you want to, knock yourself out.
As far as I’m concerned, you and PA man can both go fuck yourselves. And shove your “civility” up your fucking ass. I will never be civil to you.
Fucking asshole.
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That's not any fun....
Didn’t say there was a lot of civility. Just more of it.
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Many enjoy his contributions. I am quite sure he is here for fun, like most of us. We are not addressing systemic racism, climate change, SCOTUS corruption, or the income inequality gap here.
You aren’t. We’re solving the worlds’ problems at The Deuce.
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This is supposed to be about Ayo and it turns into a discussion about civility and and 'having fun' versus serious discourse. The on topic police would have a fit. That's part of the appeal here.
I like to mix serious stuff with satire and sarcasm without saying which is what. Sometimes I don't even know.
Not much into exchanging insults with half wits.
Always enjoyed miniditka's contributions.
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Never said a damn word about censoring anything or anybody. If you guys want to engage Truth, do it. I think it’s dumb to talk to someone like that but if you want to, knock yourself out.
As far as I’m concerned, you and PA man can both go fuck yourselves. And shove your “civility” up your fucking ass. I will never be civil to you.
Fucking asshole.
This is more like it. Bring the passion, Jobu!
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Ironically, MiniDitka was a halfwit.
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Ironically, MiniDitka was a halfwit.
C'mon, Tempo....MiniDitka is/was a good guy.
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C'mon, Tempo....MiniDitka is/was a good guy.
One can be a “good guy” and a halfwit.
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What happened to him anyway? And GOR.
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What happened to him anyway? And GOR.
You chased them away like you did Jobu? I don't know.
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You chased them away like you did Jobu? I don't know.
Think they went away at about the same time I took a break. Maybe the strain of not seeing my posts was more than they could bear?
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I can’t recall seeing either post since I came back full-time.
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Think they went away at about the same time I took a break. Maybe the strain of not seeing my posts was more than they could bear?
Probably died due to The COVID. Or stopped posting after the Soviet infiltration shutdown.
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You aren’t. We’re solving the worlds’ problems at The Deuce.
I'll let you in on a secret. I don't discuss serious topics here to solve the world's problems. It's more selfish than that. I try to keep up on current events, among other things, and there are a few here who actually have an interesting take.
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Ayo starting tonight.
I was dead ass wrong about him. Lol
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Having himself another good game so far in his first start. Just does all the right things and is fundamentally sound. Especially on defense.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360181
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9, 6, and 5 so far and just had a beautiful no look pass and huge three.
Fearless is the word to describe him.
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11, 7, and 6. He’s on triple-double watch. He’s a fucking stud. His confidence gets going, he could be pretty special in the NBA.
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Ayo starting tonight.
I was dead ass wrong about him. Lol
It takes a big man to admit when he was wrong. You are a good guy, Jobu (when you aren't whining like a broad).
nsp!!!
i'm just going to insert random signs like Spark.
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nb!!
It takes a big man to admit when he was wrong. You are a good guy, Jobu (when you aren't whining like a broad).
nsp!!!
i'm just going to insert random signs like Spark.
nb!!
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I didn’t mean to post one at the top and one at the bottom, but that’s fuckin tight!
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I didn’t mean to post one at the top and one at the bottom, but that’s fuckin tight!
The new Spark trend. Like when he always double-posted.
fr!!
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!!!!!!
Ayo played well tonight
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I guess Ayo had some “upside,” after all.
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Not real surprised Ayo is doing what he’s doing. I am surprised he’s doing it so soon. I thought maybe year 2.
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Just put him on ignore. I'd still rather read his (non-racist) posts than anything written by a moron hypocrite POS like JudgeJerkoff. But that is just me.
Fuck you.
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Didn’t know Robb was a cancel culture fan.
Fuck you
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Didn’t figure Jobu and Robb for censorship freaks. Seriously, who cares. You’re free to read it OR not read it.
Fuck you
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When did you turn into such a pussy?
Fuck you
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Honestly, I feel like the level of civility around here has improved since Jobu went and hid again.
And definitely fuck you
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Have fun talking to Truth you fucking assholes.
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Fuck you.
Eat some orange chicken. You'll feel better.
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Eat some orange chicken. You'll feel better.
Eat a dick and choke on it.
Better yet, suck Tempo’s dick and get buttfucked by Truth. I don’t care either way.
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Eat a dick and choke on it.
Better yet, suck Tempo’s dick and get buttfucked by Truth. I don’t care either way.
Hahaha. What happened to make you suck a whiny cunt?
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Hahaha. What happened to make you suck a whiny cunt?
That makes a fuckload of sense, counselor.
You’ve got to be the dumbest fuck lawyer ever. I thought it was PeoriaSteve, but nope. It’s you.
Enjoy the shithole you created here. You’ll be talking to yourself before long.
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That makes a fuckload of sense, counselor.
You’ve got to be the dumbest fuck lawyer ever. I thought it was PeoriaSteve, but nope. It’s you.
Enjoy the shithole you created here. You’ll be talking to yourself before long.
He’s a fucking troll. He wants to make everything as shitty as possible, fuck him. He’s as bad as Truth.
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That makes a fuckload of sense, counselor.
You’ve got to be the dumbest fuck lawyer ever. I thought it was PeoriaSteve, but nope. It’s you.
Enjoy the shithole you created here. You’ll be talking to yourself before long.
PeoriaSteve is a blast from the past. All his clients went to jail.
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PeoriaSteve is a blast from the past. All his clients went to jail.
Mamador should have been a client. They were quite the pair.
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well Ayo has been on the floor at least for Derozan's two consecutive game winners in as many days lol (which has apparently never happened before in NBA history)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1G8wXqqwBeY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRIL8KeK0H4
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The New Year’s Eve heave and the New Year’s Day dagger. Lol
Demar making a strong case for MVP.
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PeoriaSteve is a blast from the past. All his clients went to jail.
Better Call Saul has a much better ring than Steve anyway.... :P
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18 points for Ayo tonight vs Wizards
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18 points for Ayo tonight vs Wizards
It’s pretty cool to see his actual progression so far.
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If only he had a little bit of upside…
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I was way wrong on his potential in the NBA. I still don’t think he has a super high ceiling but it sure looks like he’s going to be a really solid player. He has absolutely transformed his body and his skill set by focusing strictly on basketball. He doesn’t even look like the same player as a year ago.
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I was way wrong on his potential in the NBA. I still don’t think he has a super high ceiling but it sure looks like he’s going to be a really solid player. He has absolutely transformed his body and his skill set by focusing strictly on basketball. He doesn’t even look like the same player as a year ago.
It looks like he actually grew a bit
he looks taller and longer than I remember him here, his conditioning has obviously been A+ while focusing full time on basketball
glad to see him having success for the hometown franchise and that's always a good thing for the Illini program as well, couldn't have a better ambassador, he's such a good kid
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https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/1479666981439782917?s=20
lmao
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https://twitter.com/KCJHoop/status/1479666981439782917?s=20
lmao
👍
https://twitter.com/i/status/1479673281586282498
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Draymond Green throwing some shade at Ayo it appears…
https://twitter.com/money23green/status/1480112288426180608?s=21
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I finally watch the Bulls and they get demolished in every phase of the game.
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Jinx
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Ayo is shooting 42.4% from 3. I doubt anyone thought he’d be able to do that at the NBA level given his low starting point on his form and his primarily midrange game in college.
Playing nearly 20 minutes a game on a good team, as a 2nd rd rookie is a phenomenal accomplishment. I don’t pay much attention to numbers put up on bad teams but Ayo is doing it on a playoff team. Very impressive.
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I finally watch the Bulls and they get demolished in every phase of the game.
We're you watching tonight too 🤣
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I watched too. I heard the Bulls were good and fun to watch.
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I watched too. I heard the Bulls were good and fun to watch.
I have no idea where you heard that from 8)
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Ayo career night!
https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1482553918190202884?s=21
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360466
To go along with 10 assists and 4 rebounds.
Malcolm with 5 pts in 18 mins
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First rookie in NBA history. Yes, sir!
https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1482566801477283843?s=21
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Just watched the highlights. Oddly enough, my takeaway is how much college ball retarded the speed of both Ayo and Malcolm’s growth.
Ayo was always awesome in transition and in the half court he was able to use his length, talent, and IQ to get to his spot with the ball, even if it looked clumsy and awkward much of the time. But he did it because he could and that iso became his game.
Watching him now the ball doesn’t stick, he moves great off the ball, he’s chiseled, bouncy and quick, and his shot mechanics look much better. All in a matter of months. If you look back at film and photos of him from as recently as March, he looks like a kid in comparison.
Malcolm also doesn’t even look like the same guy as college. He essentially played the 4 a big chunk of his career here and carried a lot of a extra mass to do so. Dude is cut up now and moves completely differently.
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Ayo 15 points 10 rebounds 6 assists 5 steals and 2 blocks against Ja Morant and a tough Memphis team
two double doubles in a row for him
he just stuffs the stat sheet
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https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401360492
Ayo is a fucking stud. Most minutes on the team and his stats are very impressive. He really could make a push for ROY if he keeps this up the rest of the season. He could be a potential star in the NBA if he keeps improving at this pace. It’s quite remarkable.
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If only Ayo had a little bit of upside…
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Huge opportunity for Ayo the rest of the way. He could position himself for ROY with this opportunity. Go get ‘em, kid!
https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1484235640749408264?s=21
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Huge opportunity for Ayo the rest of the way. He could position himself for ROY with this opportunity. Go get ‘em, kid!
https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1484235640749408264?s=21
He’s had a great rookie year, but would have to blow the doors off the rest of the way to get it or even have a shot. He’s currently like 12 or 13th in odds. Mobley is the heavy favorite for ROY.
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He’s had a great rookie year, but would have to blow the doors off the rest of the way to get it or even have a shot. He’s currently like 12 or 13th in odds. Mobley is the heavy favorite for ROY.
And should be. Ayo looks like a guy that’s gonna stick around for a long time, Mobley looks like a star.
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https://twitter.com/rob_schaef/status/1485822644926787587
lol
and some highlights from his excellent game last night (started 9/9)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxDTQO0IEvg
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https://twitter.com/Schuster_Elias/status/1486777327262789633?t=kggxGFgqd6UpWb1jEX4NbA&s=19
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15 points 14 assists tonight.
Finishes the game with a dunk
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If only he had some upside…
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https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1489786985594036229?t=8m_ABg3zyCH5G-g-B4586A&s=19
https://twitter.com/NBCSBulls/status/1489786483879915526?t=9-WD49PnFkEAorrgTxZ09g&s=19
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https://twitter.com/chicagobulls/status/1489792042695864333?t=rmquJ52HGMkrSo6KuComeg&s=19
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In concussion protocol per The Failing Chicago Tribune.
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Ayo saying Kofi should go to the NBA regardless of projections.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports-saturday/2022/2/18/22941606/bulls-ayo-dosunmu-illinois-kofi-cockburn-nba-draft
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26/6/5 in 45 minutes last night.
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Ayo saying Kofi should go to the NBA regardless of projections.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports-saturday/2022/2/18/22941606/bulls-ayo-dosunmu-illinois-kofi-cockburn-nba-draft
Old News, this was reported during season, and to my knowledge hasn't been publically reiterated since by Ayo. That said I would still tend to think he would feel this way, as it has worked out for him very well. Most had doubts about him as well....he proved them wrong.
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The Bulls really collapsed hard. They really don’t deserve the playoffs. At least the Bucks should put them out of their misery rather quick.
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The Bulls really collapsed hard. They really don’t deserve the playoffs. At least the Bucks should put them out of their misery rather quick.
The Bulls got one of the worst matchups possible. Bulls have lost against Milwaukee 16 times out of the last 17 games (0-4 this year).
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I’d be quite surprised if the Bulls win a game against Milwaukee.
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I’d be quite surprised if the Bulls win a game against Milwaukee.
But you wouldn't be shocked if they win the series?
Someone had to say it
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But you wouldn't be shocked if they win the series?
Someone had to say it
Bout as likely as pman getting laid
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Pretty damn cool for Ayo…
https://www.facebook.com/256477145038495/posts/942596766426526/?d=n
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I noticed in Game 1 Box score that Ayo only played 9 minutes. What's up with that?
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I noticed in Game 1 Box score that Ayo only played 9 minutes. What's up with that?
Yeah. Coby had a lot more especially with that stretch in second quarter where he scored like 7 straight and Caruso keeps eating up minutes. Throw in Patrick Williams being healthy and thought different position it pushes Ayo further down the bench.
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Donovan said he was gonna rely on veterans in the playoffs is a dumb move. Ayo still needs the tick he was getting because Caruso definitely isn’t gonna get it done now or in the future. He’s on the team for his leadership and experience. Let him do that from the bench and in spot minutes. Dumb move by Donovan.
DeRozan lost them the game with his terrible shot selection and shooting. He literally shoots the dumbest shots I’ve ever seen and at dumbass times. Frustrating as hell.
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DeRozan lost them the game with his terrible shot selection and shooting. He literally shoots the dumbest shots I’ve ever seen and at dumbass times. Frustrating as hell.
After having watched Illinois basketball the past few seasons, are you sure about the above comment?
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Yeah. Coby had a lot more especially with that stretch in second quarter where he scored like 7 straight and Caruso keeps eating up minutes. Throw in Patrick Williams being healthy and thought different position it pushes Ayo further down the bench.
Cept' Coby ain't got the length, Caruso ain't got the game, and Williams....well Ayo is just better than all 3 actually.
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After having watched Illinois basketball the past few seasons, are you sure about the above comment?
😂 yeah yeah I hear ya. I just meant in that NBA game.
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Apparently they have decided they like White better in this series.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/nba-playoffs-coby-white-proving-critical-bulls-chances-vs-bucks (https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/nba-playoffs-coby-white-proving-critical-bulls-chances-vs-bucks)
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If you’re going to beat Milwaukee, you have to hit 3s. Coby is a better 3 point shooter.
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If you’re going to beat Milwaukee, you have to hit 3s. Coby is a better 3 point shooter.
True but you have to defend and rebound to get extra shots which is what they will need....Ayo trumps White in both categories.
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When Derozan is on, it's a beautiful thing to watch.
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Oh hey the Bulls won
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I like watching the NBA playoffs. There is a lot more strategy, huge focus on matchups, and defensive intensity is high.
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The 2nd half of the season Bulls are back tonight.
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Apparently the Bull thinks they will be better without Ayo??
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(https://i.ibb.co/TMgSp3H/Screenshot-20220902-155813-2.png) (https://ibb.co/CKHZNGn)
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Ayo is your Chicago Bulls starting PG
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Hope he makes the most of the opportunity.
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Ayo is your Chicago Bulls starting PG
That's awesome good for him!
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Ok, Luke. Whatever you do, don’t call straight drops.
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Tactical error by Riverboat Ron.
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Lucas Patrick is a revolving door. I thought he was supposed to be good?
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Wrong thread, Tempo unless you are way, way, AOTC on something not on anyone else's radar.
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3 posts in a row in the wrong fucking thread. That’s gotta be a record.
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3 posts in a row in the wrong fucking thread. That’s gotta be a record.
Can call that The Tempo. Like we had The Spark double posts.
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Can Ayo play receiver?
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Can Ayo play receiver?
Or O line or QB?
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Or O line or QB?
Maybe he can coach?
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Can call that The Tempo. Like we had The Spark double posts.
I'll admit he had me going. I thought I had somehow clicked the Back button into the Bears thread. And yes, every post says "Re: AYO" at the top, but I wasn't looking at the headers.
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Lol
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I log into the basketball forum about once a week right now, and just to see if anything interesting has happened. Must have thought I was in the Bears’ game thread. And I’m often multi-tasking when I post. And, my eyes have gone to shit the last 6 months. I should wear my readers when I post. I can read still, but have to take my time.
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Helluva first game for the Bulls starting PG Ayo.
17,6,4 and shot 50% overall and from 3. Team high 36 minutes.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401468022
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He played great but looked a little tired at the end of the game. Fell short on a couple of 3 balls. The kid sure is fun to watch.
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He played great but looked a little tired at the end of the game. Fell short on a couple of 3 balls. The kid sure is fun to watch.
Nobody is gonna work or prepare harder than he does, that’s for sure. Kid just oozes confidence and is a gym/film rat who wants to soak up as much knowledge as possible.
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Helluva first game for the Bulls starting PG Ayo.
17,6,4 and shot 50% overall and from 3. Team high 36 minutes.
https://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/gameId/401468022
DeRozan's stat line was pretty nasty too !!!!!!
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He has worked very hard and taken full advantage of the opportunities the injuries on the Bulls have offered him.
Ball is not coming back for months.
Ayo will get major time.
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He played great but looked a little tired at the end of the game. Fell short on a couple of 3 balls. The kid sure is fun to watch.
I saw the last half of the 4th qtr and was hoping he would make some of the 3s he took during that time. Had a nice drive to the basket on one possession and didn't finish. Hope he does well.
Illini did not need him anyway.
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The Bulls are playing like they want to get Donovan canned by Thanksgiving. There's been a stink on them since the 2nd half of last year.
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The Bulls are playing like they want to get Donovan canned by Thanksgiving. There's been a stink on them since the 2nd half of last year.
Well, to be fair the injuries they have had have hurt.
Ayo is not really a full time starter level NBA guard yet.
He can hit the three in selective takes when wide open at OK clip.
When defenses contest more he is struggling.
He is not, nor ever was a natural PG.
He has worked really hard to his credit and is valuable minutes guy off the bench.
Honestly has surpassed what many thought he could do so far.
They need Ball back and they need shooters.
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/lonzo-ball-can-help-bulls-issues-roster-flaws-go-deeper (https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bulls/lonzo-ball-can-help-bulls-issues-roster-flaws-go-deeper)
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This is poor roster construction, not on Billy Donovan.
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This is poor roster construction, not on Billy Donovan.
Agreed
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Didn’t like the Vuc trade when they made it. He was already like 30 or 31? You guys know how I feel about giving up 2 1st rounders…
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Didn’t like the Vuc trade when they made it. He was already like 30 or 31? You guys know how I feel about giving up 2 1st rounders…
Vuc’s numbers are really good looking, but it’s deceiving. The Bulls have 3 really good pieces but they just don’t go together as a team. DeRozan, Lavine, and Vuc on paper stats-wise looks tough, but not near enough in today’s NBA. You’re not gonna get very far with that as your core and they’re stuck in pergatory. Lonzo Ball isn’t gonna change that either in my opinion. Just a poorly constructed roster that isn’t gonna go anywhere.
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Agreed with Tempo and Judy. This is on AKME for assembling a roster full of poor fits. The Vuc trade was a disaster when it happened. He just hangs around the 3 point line most of the time. Lavine is frequently hurt and is mostly a garbage time stat padder when healthy. He might have the emptiest 21PPG you’ll ever see. The Bulls were being carried by Derozan playing at an MVP level. To me, AKME isn’t looking like much of an upgrade over GarPax right now. They ran it back with the same core hoping for better results.
I’m not gonna blame Donovan and I liked the hire when it was initially announced. Seems to me the players checked out since the 2nd half of last year.
Maybe getting the fuck out of Chicago would be best for him.
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Bring in Tempo's guy, Archie Miller.
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They don’t play above the rim, they don’t play defense, and they don’t shoot 3s. That’s the wrong trifecta in today’s NBA.
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The LaVine situation was a tough one. He’d “earned” the contract, but you kinda knew you’d regret giving it to him.
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The LaVine situation was a tough one. He’d “earned” the contract, but you kinda knew you’d regret giving it to him.
Yep this is spot on. Bad decision giving it to him knowing he wouldn’t take you anywhere significant. But you can see why they would “reward” him.
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I just keep feeling any interest in pro sports vacating me by the day. More power to yas
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I just keep feeling any interest in pro sports vacating me by the day. More power to yas
Sports for me in general, minus the NFL and PGA.
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What the fuck happened to Ben Gordon?! Dude arrested in Harlem for going around trying to stab people with sewing needles😳
https://twitter.com/auxgod_/status/1600598311345352704?s=46&t=LAyZQLaOs8nmpsFa6DMmJw
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What the fuck happened to Ben Gordon?! Dude arrested in Harlem for going around trying to stab people with sewing needles😳
https://twitter.com/auxgod_/status/1600598311345352704?s=46&t=LAyZQLaOs8nmpsFa6DMmJw
He has admitted to having mental illness issues.
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He has admitted to having mental illness issues.
Damn, that’s sad. No idea what would wanna make someone do that but he had it made. Guessing there’s gotta be some sort of chemical imbalance in his brain or something to cause stuff like that. Hope he gets the help he needs. That sounds bad and definitely no joke.
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Damn, that’s sad. No idea what would wanna make someone do that but he had it made. Guessing there’s gotta be some sort of chemical imbalance in his brain or something to cause stuff like that. Hope he gets the help he needs. That sounds bad and definitely no joke.
Whatever he is trying to do doesn't seem to be working as it seems to be an ongoing issue.
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Drug intervention can be quite helpful, when they're taken.
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Drug intervention can be quite helpful, when they're taken.
they can also cause horrible side effects if the wrong medication is prescribed
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they can also cause horrible side effects if the wrong medication is prescribed
Since you are speaking from experience?
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Since you are speaking from experience?
yeah my wife had horrible side effects when some dipshit prescribed her wellbutrin
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yeah my wife had horrible side effects when some dipshit prescribed her wellbutrin
Sorry to hear. Hope she feels better.
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I have been in MH field for decades. Most psychotropics are prescribed by family doctors-not psychiatrists. They have minimal training.
Psychiatrists are in short supply, do limited medication monitoring, and are kind of "I have a hammer (favorite med) so everything looks like a nail". It is a real crapshoot to get high quality psychiatric care.
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I have been in MH field for decades. Most psychotropics are prescribed by family doctors-not psychiatrists. They have minimal training.
Psychiatrists are in short supply, do limited medication monitoring, and are kind of "I have a hammer (favorite med) so everything looks like a nail". It is a real crapshoot to get high quality psychiatric care.
Damned Big Pharma....
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yeah my wife had horrible side effects when some dipshit prescribed her wellbutrin
Ditto, but the drug is beneficial to millions of people with no issues.
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Ditto, but the drug is beneficial to millions of people with no issues.
They can be, for sure, if there is adequate accurate diagnosis and monitoring.
Another interesting view is that regular exercise has as good or better impact for many for mental health issues.
It is a complicated interaction between emotional and physical for overall well being.
Which is why places like this are helpful for a few laughs which are also very important to mental health. ;D
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They can be, for sure, if there is adequate accurate diagnosis and monitoring.
Another interesting view is that regular exercise has as good or better impact for many for mental health issues.
It is a complicated interaction between emotional and physical for overall well being.
Which is why places like this are helpful for a few laughs which are also very important to mental health. ;D
I think Mn thinks that specific drug is pretty worthless...or millions can take it without issues. I think the former. Mn?
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They can be, for sure, if there is adequate accurate diagnosis and monitoring.
Another interesting view is that regular exercise has as good or better impact for many for mental health issues.
It is a complicated interaction between emotional and physical for overall well being.
Which is why places like this are helpful for a few laughs which are also very important to mental health. ;D
I don't come here for mental health advice. ;D
Sometimes it takes someone else to convince the person that the drug is not helpful or that it's got side effects and contacting the doc should be the next step.
Too often, 'it's what the doc prescribed, so I take it'. Or they stop taking it entirely.
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I think Mn thinks that specific drug is pretty worthless...or millions can take it without issues. I think the former. Mn?
The drug works fine with no/minimal side effects, and is beneficial, for millions.
My wife had side effects that weren't acceptable.
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The drug works fine with no/minimal side effects, and is beneficial, for millions.
My wife had side effects that weren't acceptable.
Got it.
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Also familiar with the unacceptable side effects of Wellbutrin that technically don’t exist.
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Also familiar with the unacceptable side effects of Wellbutrin that technically don’t exist.
That does not make it easy to make the connection.
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And most people think it's a quick/easy fix. Takes weeks or even months for your body to adjust to those types of meds.
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And most people think it's a quick/easy fix. Takes weeks or even months for your body to adjust to those types of meds.
And then you get to try a different drug and hope that works for you. It's not an exact science.
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And then we found out recently that depression etc isn’t even a chemical imbalance as we’ve been told for decades
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The traditional medical model is limited.
I always recommend other support resources or therapy in conjunction with any medication.
The research is pretty clear that meds alone are not as effective.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/NBATV/status/1605760449068179456
Ayo with a game winner today
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Bulls end their season, and Ayo ends a shitty 2nd season. He cost himself a lot of money this year.
Rookie year:
27 mpg
Shot 52/38/68
3.3 asts/ 1.4 TO
2nd year:
26 mpg
Shot 49/31/81
2.6 asts/1.4 TO
Cost himself lot of money
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Ayo gets a qualifying offer from the Bulls. If I were the Phoenix Suns, I’d be extending one as well. The style they wanna play with those weapons on the wings would be a good fit for Ayo in my opinion. Tons of transition opportunities. They also need a PG.
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Ayo gets a qualifying offer from the Bulls. If I were the Phoenix Suns, I’d be extending one as well. The style they wanna play with those weapons on the wings would be a good fit for Ayo in my opinion. Tons of transition opportunities. They also need a PG.
Phoenix Suns would do well in trying to get Ayo and Meyers both with what little $$$ they have to go around. They need to get quality players that are established and can bring something to the table.
I think Leonard would fit in very well in Phx.
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Ayo projected to get paid in the $8-10/year range. That’s still a pretty good living even though he had a rough last year. Hope this next contract he finds a good fit, impresses, and sticks in the league for awhile.
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The Suns need 3 point shooting. Ayo can't shoot. He sure as heck cannot run any point.
He can help a team in NBA, but really is kind of a fringe guy until he develops a 3ball.
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The Suns need 3 point shooting. Ayo can't shoot. He sure as heck cannot run any point.
He can help a team in NBA, but really is kind of a fringe guy until he develops a 3ball.
Fringe is exactly what the Suns can afford first off, and as far as 3pt shooting goes....Durant was 31dt in %, regular season, Booker was 3rd in playoffs, and Craig was 18th, Payne was 24th and even Shamet (now gone was ranked).....I think they can do just fine with having those guys as well as having Booker lead the playoffs at 33.7 per and also58.5% FG overall in playoffs, and 50.8% 3's in the playoffs.
3 pt shooting is not what the Suns are missing....they need reliable players, proven who can contribute and not cost them max contracts to go with their big 3 of Booker/Beal/Durant. Ayo/Leonard would fit needs and be very functional without breaking the bank now. Leonard would also add some rim protection, some athletic ability and also some 3's as well.
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There are a ton of guys like Ayo trying to stay in the league. He is just a guy.
He isn't going to make a big difference for anybody except as a usable guy on second unit for a few minutes a game.
Suns only made 11 3 pointers a game and were 17th in the league by the way.
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Ayo projected to get paid in the $8-10/year range. That’s still a pretty good living even though he had a rough last year. Hope this next contract he finds a good fit, impresses, and sticks in the league for awhile.
8-10 million a year? For Ayo?
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He's a top 10-15 player in his draft class so far, plus he's durable so far. Granted that's a large pool but market for that sort of bench seems to be worth like 3-5M/year. If someone wants to overpay so be it.
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8-10 million a year? For Ayo?
Yes… according to the ESPN+ article I can’t link or screenshot.
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There are a ton of guys like Ayo trying to stay in the league. He is just a guy.
He isn't going to make a big difference for anybody except as a usable guy on second unit for a few minutes a game.
Suns only made 11 3 pointers a game and were 17th in the league by the way.
Not in the playoffs, and 33 points without Beal....plus add a servicable (fringe) ball handler, point still remains. Suns should offer, they have limited $$$ and Ayo can prove he should get more.
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Resigns with the Bulls. 3years for 21 million. Pretty sweet deal…
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1682459139497250816?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Good for him. I will always be a fan of that kid. Thought for sure they were going to trade him.
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Congrats Ayo! Get that money.
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Didn’t see that coming. Heard they might move on from him, and I thought they likely would. Good for Ayo.
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Ayo projected to get paid in the $8-10/year range. That’s still a pretty good living even though he had a rough last year. Hope this next contract he finds a good fit, impresses, and sticks in the league for awhile.
A little less at $7 million/year, but close to spot on. Definitely AOTC…
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Congrats to Ayo
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Nice!
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Not in the playoffs, and 33 points without Beal....plus add a servicable (fringe) ball handler, point still remains. Suns should offer, they have limited $$$ and Ayo can prove he should get more.
The Suns are officially fucked. Ayo would have made zero difference. They need starters and shooting.
Really mismanaged roster.
Bulls overpaid for a guy like Ayo, but it is good PR and he is usable.