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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: No one in Mn on November 28, 2025, 11:40:12 AM
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This floor is an eyesore.
I might have to watch The Egg Bowl instead
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Yeah this floor is horrific! Like we’re playing in an And 1 tournament…
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Let’s fucking go! Got it down to only 8 and they’ve dominated so far. We can pull this out if we get our shit together! This is basically a home game for UCONN…
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This game is going about how I expected
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This game is going about how I expected
They’re letting UCONN be way more physical on defense than the Illini…
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Our lack of man-to-man defense ability is getting exploited by UCONN.
And I can’t stand Dan Hurley. The guy is so unlikable it makes me sick watching his antics on the sideline…
43-32 at halftime. Need to step up and play lights out in the 2nd half or this one is gonna get ugly…
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They’re letting UCONN be way more physical on defense than the Illini…
Yeah getting homered pretty bad
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All in All, lucky to be where we are 43-32
Less Mirkovic 3's, more Petrovic PG, Boswell plays just as hard/good in the 2nd half, and make Ball make some more 3's.
Play some zone more often back and forth to mix up the rhythm that Uconn likes to get into and we should still be fine overall. UCONN came out on fire and cooled and then got hot again....we play better 2nd halves than 1st usually. Big Z is playing well on D for us, really liked what Lee was doing on Ball also.
Rebound, rebound, rebound.
89-83 UCONN wins however. 13 vs 5 that is still a good showing.
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Boswell with 13 and 6 and Mirkovic with 6 and 6. Everybody else with the other 13 points and 7 rebounds.
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Yeah getting homered pretty bad
Personal Fouls are even at the half?????? 3's are literally the only difference in this game. They made a few more, we shot less (thank goodness) and that is the half.
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Boswell with 13 and 6 and Mirkovic with 6 and 6. Everybody else with the other 13 points and 7 rebounds.
BU needs to find the Mirkovic lane and keep that guy in it for now....he has an immense overall skill set, however gets into look at me now shootin 3's too often. Use your weight/size/IQ mid to low post, that will open up way more 3's later on.
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Personal Fouls are even at the half??????
Every play uconn is setting illegal screens and hacking the fuck out of anyone that drives to the hoop on defense
Its purdue style hackeyball and I hate it
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Yes, we need our post players to step up and bully these dudes…
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Hurley acts shocked every time they get called.
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Rebound the fucking ball!!!!
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And we're down to 27% from 3. Humrichovic needs to start hitting some.
And he bricks it 😂😂
Make it 24%
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Can't buy a basket
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Make it 20%
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Same Illini uniforms, same Underachiever, same results in big games, just guys from different continents doing the sucking
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At least the Free Shot percentage is good today
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At least the Free Shot percentage is good today
11-0 run. Let's make it 30-0
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Wed be in this if we could make a damn 3
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Down to 19% from 3.
The OC didn't expect this but I wouldn't be surprised if he did.
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Why is davis in there hes useless
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Just when the fake rally was getting good there is a Bet360, or whatever it is called, shot.
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Karaban looked to be all over Humrichovic's back on the rebound
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What are the odds get screwed here
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100%!
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100%!
They said the bucket was good within the original shot clock. The clock shouldn't have reset on the miss
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They said the bucket was good within the original shot clock. The clock shouldn't have reset on the miss
Not as if it would have mattered.
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Easily outcoached today. We're in a road NBA venue and have our post players chucking 3s while they run a disciplined offense that we're not prepared for.
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Easily outcoached today. We're in a road NBA venue and have our post players chucking 3s while they run a disciplined offense that we're not prepared for.
No 30- 0 run; Underachiever is improving.
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NO ONE, other than Boswell scores for 7 + minutes I believe they said, we cut it to 10 (fluke) and then chuck 3 missed 3's, a turnover, and fouls....damn with or without the entire team healthy and practicing, we ARE NOT who we thought we were YET.
March I still believe this team will be a very tough out before sweet 16, after that...anything is possible win or lose.
The reliance on 3's is smoke and mirrors, we just don't shoot them consistantly well enough to be that team that can rely on them.
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Karaban looked to be all over Humrichovic's back on the rebound
He was, BU caught and complained late about it
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They said the bucket was good within the original shot clock.
Probably didn't matter but there's no way you can conclude that based on what was on-screen.
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No 30- 0 run; Underachiever is improving.
Are you leaving your cup on or taking it off till tomorrow ?
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Probably didn't matter but there's no way you can conclude that based on what was on-screen.
Didn't hit the rim at all, over the back, 2 seconds left, Smith dribbles back, NO WAY that counted in original shot clock....NO WAY it had any bearing on the outcome either though. Bad call, and more importantly Bad overall ILLINI loss
Boswell A
Lee A-defense only
Humrichous C
Big Z C
Tomi F
Wagler (F)reshman
Stoyokavic (was he even here today-F)
Davis F
Petrovic B-
Mirkovic D
Coaching staff D, can't keep doing the 3 dance, drive, get into lane, good things happen.
Zone today off an on, need more of this with Big Z being the defender.
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Probably didn't matter but there's no way you can conclude that based on what was on-screen.
Agree on both points.
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Didn't hit the rim at all, over the back, 2 seconds left, Smith dribbles back, NO WAY that counted in original shot clock....NO WAY it had any bearing on the outcome either though. Bad call, and more importantly Bad overall ILLINI loss
Boswell A
Lee A-defense only
Humrichous C
Big Z C
Tomi F
Wagler (F)reshman
Stoyokavic (was he even here today-F)
Davis F
Petrovic B-
Mirkovic D
Coaching staff D, can't keep doing the 3 dance, drive, get into lane, good things happen.
Zone today off an on, need more of this with Big Z being the defender.
Tomi had a double double.
Petrovic was 1-7 from the floor with 3 turnovers and we don't handle the ball well in the lane.
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We don't handle the ball well in the lane.
The primary ball handlers do, they can still penetrate and dish, problem is our offense ONLY calls for the dishes to be 3's...we need back cuts/back doors, especially on over playing teams, along with some easy 12-15' shots. That with strong defense AND some 3's will win most games for us. 6-29 today is horrendous.
Would love to see a starting 5 of Humrichous, Boswell, Tomi, Wagler, Mirkovic, 2nd Unit Big Z, Andrej, and Petrovic, Davis and Lee sprinkled in with some mix. Andrej is really good in the lane/driving/short pull ups, but overall I think he is soft.
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I’d like to try the novel concept of getting our 7 footers shots near the rim and not just from 3.
I loved that one possession where Bam got the rebound by the free throw line then just dribbled facing the basket instead of taking a wide open jumper or passing it to Wagler who was all alone under the basket. He then dribbled out and shot a 25’ fade away 3 as the shot clock expired. Game in a nutshell right there.
The 4 point slop shot play was a back breaker when they had been ice cold and we could have cut it to 4 point lead on the other end. But who am I kidding, we weren’t even drawing iron on 3s at that point.
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Tomi had a double double.
Petrovic was 1-7 from the floor with 3 turnovers and we don't handle the ball well in the lane.
Tomi got all of his when it didn't really matter, game was out of hand....that said, fine he got a double double, we all can get one at any burger shop. Petrovic may have had 3 turnovers, but him and Bam together is how this team will win/lose moving forward. He is a true lead guard that is JUST now getting minutes to make a difference.
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Tomi got all of his when it didn't really matter, game was out of hand....that said, fine he got a double double, we all can get one at any burger shop. Petrovic may have had 3 turnovers, but him and Bam together is how this team will win/lose moving forward. He is a true lead guard that is JUST now getting minutes to make a difference.
Take away the 4 point play and we would have had a chance to cut it to 4. Tomi had his points by then by then and maybe his rebounds.
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Petrovic needs to play more…
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I unfortunately (or fortunately in this case) was not able to catch this or the Bears game due to work obligations.
Sounds like it was more of the same 3 point brick contest with a John Groce special moral victory comeback at the end to cap things for us.
But let's not lose sight of the important things: Bradislav Underwoodivic knows how to rock a tracksuit!
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https://x.com/colehawk23/status/1994498423169716302?t=y6hHZuVd6lokpCDdvtkyvw&s=19
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The man ain't wrong.
Also agree we should rotate in Petrovic more if he's fully healthy now, possibly starting over Wagler or Mirkovic depending on opponent.
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Have to be careful with Petro in rotations because he’s small and can’t guard anyone but does some nifty stuff on the offensive end. Like all the euros, needs to learn that the speed and physicality on defense isn’t what he’s used to. Has a tendency to drive it all the way to the cup and jump and hope like hell he finds a guy he can pass it to.
How many layups did we miss in this game? Reminded me of the game against them in the tourney and a game at northwestern that same year I believe where we looked sped up and just missed bunnies like it was our job.
This wasn’t a game where I felt like we were outclassed or didn’t belong. Make wide open layups like we usually do/hit wide open threes at the normal clip and we win, perhaps comfortably. We’ve got a bunch of new guys figuring out how to play together and two key players just back off injury so there’s some rotation question marks.
I didn’t love seeing Davis in there so much late but I guess that lineup was kind of working despite him not doing anything useful.
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https://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/bracketology/ncaa-bracketology-2026-march-madness-men-field-predictions
UCONN just took over one of the #1 seeds in current bracketology....this helps our loss to them. However in this projection we would be in a BRUTAL bracket imo.
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Way too early to consider which bracket you’re in.
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Way too early to consider which bracket you’re in.
Right that's literally why they call it "The way too early bracketology"...LOL, the site is so busy, figured I would try to squeeze it in.
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Our losses are to three top 15 teams. Two of those were as close as they get and one was a 7 point game late when we got fucked on a crazy ass 4 point play instead of getting the ball back to cut it to a 4-5 point game. We’ve beaten two top 15ish teams. Does help those teams that beat us and we beat keep winning.
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Way too early to consider which bracket you’re in.
Free Shots in November don't matter either, per you!
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Free Shots in November don't matter either, per you!
Not typically. And especially in 30 point blowout wins. And when freshmen bigs are doing most of the missing.
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Not typically. And especially in 30 point blowout wins. And when freshmen bigs are doing most of the missing.
Except when they wind up being a problem the whole year, which they did.
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Except when they wind up being a problem the whole year, which they did.
LOL
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We weren’t great from the line, but I’m pretty sure we didn’t lose any games because of it.
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You did lose a 2nd half cover in the tourney, though; so pretty tragic.
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LOL
We have been through this. It was a problem the whole year.
Take your W's in the Trump thread as you have alrwady taken the L in this issue.
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We have been through this. It was a problem the whole year.
Take your W's in the Trump thread as you have alrwady taken the L in this issue.
Tell me which games we lost due to it.
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Tell me which games we lost due to it.
This year, Alabama, Nebraska.
Mn posted the numbers showing that Illinois was terrible for the year in Free Shot Percentage. You must have missed it
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Definitely the West Virginia NCAA game.
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Give me the year you think we are discussing and I'll give you the list.
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Good luck but if you're not watching the games, cough cough, it's difficult to say.
Down by 2, you miss the front end of a 1 and 1 and they get the rebound and hit a 3.
So down by 5.
You foul, they make 2 at the line. Down by 7.
You get the ball back and miss a 3. They get the rebound and get a bucket. Down by 9.
All because of 1 missed free shot.
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Good luck but if you're not watching the games, cough cough, it's difficult to say.
Down by 2, you miss the front end of a 1 and 1 and they get the rebound and hit a 3.
So down by 5.
You foul, they make 2 at the line. Down by 7.
You get the ball back and miss a 3. They get the rebound and get a bucket. Down by 9.
All because of 1 missed free shot.
Free Shots don't matter!
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Free Shots don't matter!
What if Morez got two more threes a game?
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What if Morez got two more threes a game?
He would still be riding the bench in Champaign
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This year, Alabama, Nebraska.
Mn posted the numbers showing that Illinois was terrible for the year in Free Shot Percentage. You must have missed it
That year.
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Again, show me what games were lost that year because of FT shooting/aka “free shots.”
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Again, show me what games were lost that year because of FT shooting/aka “free shots.”
Which year are you claiming it was only freshman bigs who missed the free shots?
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It is also going to be impossible, at this time, to figure out how many one-and-ones were missed without actually watching the games as I have not found a website that has those numbers.
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It is also going to be impossible, at this time, to figure out how many one-and-ones were missed without actually watching the games as I have not found a website that has those numbers.
That’s his schtick… Years later wanting you to provide evidence for something you already have years earlier. Then when you don’t wanna waste your time again, he will put “LOL” and claim he told you so!
He even forgets what he said at the time…
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That’s his schtick… Years later wanting you to provide evidence for something you already have years earlier. Then when you don’t wanna waste your time again, he will put “LOL” and claim he told you so!
He even forgets what he said at the time…
This post is devastating, Tempo
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This post is devastating, Tempo
One could say it’s… ELITE! 😂
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Tempo argues the same way my ex wife does. Not sure what that means, probably nothing, but it’s interesting to me at least.
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Devastating
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Which year are you claiming it was only freshman bigs who missed the free shots?
The GAME you whined about. When you threw up the worry flag, it was primarily frosh bigs missing FTs in a 30 point win. It was like the 2nd game of the year. Whatever year Matt Meyer’s last year was.
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Rodgers and Dainja a combined 2-10. Freshmen a combined 3-14. Playing in their 2nd career game
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The GAME you whined about. When you threw up the worry flag, it was primarily frosh bigs missing FTs in a 30 point win. It was like the 2nd game of the year. Whatever year Matt Meyer’s last year was.
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1st game of the year box score
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They won a few blowouts after that 1st game where they shot between 65 to 75%.
VA they lost by 9 and went 4-9.
They got smoked by Penn State and went 6-12.
Lost to NU and went 6-10.
Lost by 15 to IU and went 9-23
Lost by 2 to Xxxx and went 18-23
Lost by 3 to IU and went 14-18
Lost by 12 to Ohio State, went 10-14
Lost by 5 to Purdue, went 16-24
Lost to Penn State by 3, went 12-19
Arkansas, lost by 10, went 17-26
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They won a few blowouts after that 1st game where they shot between 65 to 75%.
VA they lost by 9 and went 4-9.
They got smoked by Penn State and went 6-12.
Lost to NU and went 6-10.
Lost by 15 to IU and went 9-23
Lost by 2 to Xxxx and went 18-23
Lost by 3 to IU and went 14-18
Lost by 12 to Ohio State, went 10-14
Lost by 5 to Purdue, went 16-24
Lost to Penn State by 3, went 12-19
Arkansas, lost by 10, went 17-26
I never would’ve done that for him because he still will think he’s right…
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I never would’ve done that for him because he still will think he’s right…
And I don't know why I did this for ThePAMan other than he was right then and he's right now.
The 2022-2023 team had the worst free shot percentage since the 2007-2008 team, which was horrendous.
One could probably say 'that's a problem.'
But they couldn't shoot from 3 either. 339th out of 363 teams for percentage.
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LOL we didn’t lose any games because of poor FT shooting that year. Period.
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But they couldn't shoot from 3 either. 339th out of 363 teams for percentage.
Thanks for reminding me. This…was a FAR GREATER problem. And I’m sure we shot a hell of a lot of 3s.
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LOL we didn’t lose any games because of poor FT shooting that year. Period.
Wrong
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For a guy who often declares that others can never admit to adverse facts, you are the one who will never admit it.
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Were they good at FT shooting? No. Did it cost us any games? Almost certainly no. You could MAYBE argue Penn State looking at the raw numbers.
And lastly, no one ever said FTs don’t matter. That’s another bullshit PAStrawMan.
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Were they good at FT shooting? No. Did it cost us any games? Almost certainly no. You could MAYBE argue Penn State looking at the raw numbers.
And lastly, no one ever said FTs don’t matter. That’s another bullshit PAStrawMan.
You said it and you still are right now.
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For a guy who often declares that others can never admit to adverse facts, you are the one who will never admit it.
Tell me which game(s) we lost that year due to FT shooting.
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Wrong
Name them.
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You said it and you still are right now.
Seriously, STFU. I dont have time for this bullshit.
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Name them.
Just gave you a run down of all the lossses and the FS numbers. FS were definitely a problem that year. The closer losses it obviously impacted. You can watch the games, probably for the 1st time!, and see which games were impacted by failed one-and-ones. The rest of us were watching contemporaneously and noted the problem.
The AOTC Award shall heretofor be named ThePAOTCMan Award
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I never would’ve done that for him because he still will think he’s right…
So which games did we CLEARLY lose due to FT shooting?
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So which games did we CLEARLY lose due to FT shooting?
LOL
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Unless you expect us to go 100% from the line, I only see one game that’s even really debatable on that list. To quote Mr. Hand: “are you on dope?”
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You literally listed 9, 10, and 15 point losses LOL
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Unless you expect us to go 100% from the line, I only see one game that’s even really debatable on that list. To quote Mr. Hand: “are you on dope?”
LOL.
They were one of the worst FS teams that year and you are claiming it did not cause any losses.....
C'mon man!
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If we go 12 for 12 against PSU we still lose by 9 LOL
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If we go 12 for 12 against PSU we still lose by 9 LOL
It could have been one and ones and been 24 points. Watch the game, finally, and let us know!
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LOL.
They were one of the worst FS teams that year and you are claiming it did not cause any losses.....
C'mon man!
JFC. You literally have zero sense sometimes. Like saying the defense is the huge problem when the offense can’t get any first downs for 3 quarters.
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It could have been one and ones and been 24 points. Watch the game, finally, and let us know!
Ok, we’ll go back and do the math and I’ll listen to your results.
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JFC. You literally have zero sense sometimes. Like saying the defense is the huge problem when the offense can’t get any first downs for 3 quarters.
Prove it that the FS shooting did NOT cause any losses that year!
We will wait for you to watch the games and fill us in.
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Shot by shot.
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Prove it that the FS shooting did NOT cause any losses that year!
We will wait for you to watch the games and fill us in.
You have the much harder task. You’re being ridiculous. Good night, I don’t have time for this nonsense.
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3 point shooting was the far greater problem. Not even close.
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Shot by shot.
We will wait for your film review. Gives you a chance to watch games you missed the first time around.
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Surrender accepted.
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Surrender accepted.
Yes, you are waiving the white flag. I've done the research and now, as usual, you keep moving the goalposts since you were again proven to be wrong like you were completely WRONG about Fields.
Go watch the games and let us know why the Illini lost if it wasn't due to FS.
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We were tied at Purdue with 1:17 to go.
We missed 3 free shots and fouled 4 times in the last 1:17.
Purdue hit 7 free shots in the last 1:17
Miss free shots and you're forced to get a stop or foul. We fouled.
We lost by 5.
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That might be one.
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Kudos to MN for going back and watching the game just to destroy Tempo!
LOL
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Yes, you are waiving the white flag. I've done the research and now, as usual, you keep moving the goalposts since you were again proven to be wrong like you were completely WRONG about Fields.
Go watch the games and let us know why the Illini lost if it wasn't due to FS.
You’ve proven exactly nothing.
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Kudos to MN for going back and watching the game just to destroy Tempo!
LOL
Somebody has to carry you. We know you won’t do it.
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You’ve proven exactly nothing.
LOL
I've proven that you are projecting when you claim others will not admit to negative facts!
Mn just kicked down the door at your strawhouse!
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Somebody has to carry you. We know you won’t do it.
I was AOTC game 1 of that season.
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LOL
I've proven that you are projecting when you claim others will not admit to negative facts!
Mn just kicked down the door at your strawhouse!
I’m tired and I should be sleeping, but from what I can tell Mn’s accounting doesn’t seem quite spot on. I’ll look at it again tomorrow with rested eyes.
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Yeah, his accounting of events doesn’t seem to add up.
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I look forward to your research
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Here’s the 2-3 minutes before the final 1:17.
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I’m counting 1 missed FT in the final 4 minutes or so. Let’s say he makes it and and it’s a one and one. Two more made FTs still seems like a stretch to say we win that game.
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Turnovers and missed 3s on the other hand…
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Hawkins missed at least one late but the game was already lost by that point.
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2 of the 3 missed FTs were in the waning seconds down two possessions (6). I rate Mn’s claims “pants on fire.”
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Where is Hal9000 when we need him?
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Where is Hal9000 when we need him?
I'm thinking the computer knows Tempo is full of it going way back before Fields.
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1st game of the year box score
Still waiting for the analysis on the freshman bigs missing the free throws that was the initial claim...
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Still waiting for the analysis on the freshman bigs missing the free throws that was the initial claim...
I literally gave you the stats. Rodgers and Dainja were 2-10 (unless you’re trying to get me on a technicality with Dainja). The other freshmen were 1 for 4 if I’m not mistaken. If I’m wrong, feel free to point out where.
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Still waiting for the analysis on the freshman bigs missing the free throws that was the initial claim...
I guess technically, Rodgers could be called a guard, though he played a combo role. Regardless, you’re picking nits. It was inexperienced players doing all the damage to the FT % for that game.
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I literally gave you the stats. Rodgers and Dainja were 2-10 (unless you’re trying to get me on a technicality with Dainja). The other freshmen were 1 for 4 if I’m not mistaken. If I’m wrong, feel free to point out where.
Where did you mention this?
Rodgers is a big? LOL.
Stretching
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I guess technically, Rodgers could be called a guard, though he played a combo role. Regardless, you’re picking nits. It was inexperienced players doing all the damage to the FT % for that game.
I'm picking nits? I'm the one who said the FS were an issue. You are the one who blamed frosh bigs. The issue ran all season.
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I'm picking nits? I'm the one who said the FS were an issue. You are the one who blamed frosh bigs. The issue ran all season.
You haven’t been able to pinpoint a single loss due to FT shooting without greatly expanding the concept of woulda, coulda, shoulda. Mn’s claims were essentially proven fraudulent. Is he Somali?
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You haven’t been able to pinpoint a single loss due to FT shooting without greatly expanding the concept of woulda, coulda, shoulda. Mn’s claims were essentially proven fraudulent. Is he Somali?
LOL.. Gave you the list of losses and the numbers. The Purdue game Meyer missed a FS that would have put them in the lead. The game went straight downhil from there. their earlier FS shooting put them in that position.
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Again, your claim that frosh bigs were responsible for poor FS shooting has been disproven
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LOL.. Gave you the list of losses and the numbers. The Purdue game Meyer missed a FS that would have put them in the lead. The game went straight downhil from there. their earlier FS shooting put them in that position.
You gave me a list of mostly 3 possession losses in which going perfect from the line probably wouldn’t have made a difference in any of them. You can’t be serious.
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You can’t point to one game that we DEFINITELY lost due to FT shooting.
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You gave me a list of mostly 3 possession losses in which going perfect from the line probably wouldn’t have made a difference in any of them. You can’t be serious.
Again ignoring the devastating effects missing FS can have.....Do you watch the games?
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You can’t point to one game that we DEFINITELY lost due to FT shooting.
Yes, I have.
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LOL
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We can lose them from missing 3’s, but not FT’s! -Tempo
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We can lose them from missing 3’s, but not FT’s! -Tempo
That’s not what I said. But math agrees with your basic gist.
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Yes, I have.
You listed losses in games in which we took shots from the foul line. That’s literally about all that you did.
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We can lose them from missing 3’s, but not FT’s! -Tempo
For every extra 3 made, that’s a guaranteed extra 3 points. For every extra FT made, that’s (being very very very generous on the very high side) an extra 1.67ish points. 3 > 1.67, so yeah, 3 point shooting was the bigger problem.
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In reality, that ratio is probably much closer to 3 > 1.25
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For every extra 3 made, that’s a guaranteed extra 3 points. For every extra FT made, that’s (being very very very generous on the very high side) an extra 1.67ish points. 3 > 1.67, so yeah, 3 point shooting was the bigger problem.
If you are putting up bad 3s because you are behind due to less points through missed FSs, that's due to missed FSs. Put having to foul in this same category.
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LOL
I am done with this discussion because:
1) I never once said “free shots don’t matter” (another PAStrawMan)
2) there were no games we clearly lost because of FT shooting that year.
Feel free to continue talking to yourself on the matter.
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If you are putting up bad 3s because you are behind due to less points through missed FSs, that's due to missed FSs. Put having to foul in this same category.
Lastly, this is on par with your “you can blame the defense for not being very good, but if the offense can’t get first downs it’s the defenses’ fault” take.
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There really aren’t that many scenarios where you can say with certainty that poor free throw shooting is what caused a loss. It’s not as simple as looking at the final score and then adding made FTs back to it and determining that would have made the difference.
That team was a really poor FS shooting team. It’s almost a certainty that it cost us at least one game, which is apparently the threshold for validity.
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There really aren’t that many scenarios where you can say with certainty that poor free throw shooting is what caused a loss. It’s not as simple as looking at the final score and then adding made FTs back to it and determining that would have made the difference.
That team was a really poor FS shooting team. It’s almost a certainty that it cost us at least one game, which is apparently the threshold for validity.
We were told frosh bigs were the problem, until that was disproved
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LOL
I am done with this discussion because:
1) I never once said “free shots don’t matter” (another PAStrawMan)
2) there were no games we clearly lost because of FT shooting that year.
Feel free to continue talking to yourself on the matter.
Wrong. You are done as you were wrong because you failed to watch the games!!
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Lastly, this is on par with your “you can blame the defense for not being very good, but if the offense can’t get first downs it’s the defenses’ fault” take.
We all know it is Caleb's and Dain Danja's fault. Fields would have made the Free Shots and won the Lions game. In the same day.
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The New Year has seen a decline in your trolling skills. There's time to bounce back, though.
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You're pretty clutch in the late stages of the year.
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The New Year has seen a decline in your trolling skills. There's time to bounce back, though.
LOL.. next time raise an argument about FS within the same season instead of 3 to 5 years later....
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LOL.. next time raise an argument about FS within the same season instead of 3 to 5 years later....
I did it a long ass time ago. The night we lost in the tourney that year, actually. Is that soon enough? I said we didn't lose any games due to FT shooting that year, and then you tried to make out you losing a 2nd half cover bet into "losing a game due to FT shooting." I remember it well.
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I did it a long ass time ago. The night we lost in the tourney that year, actually. Is that soon enough? I said we didn't lose any games due to FT shooting that year, and then you tried to make out you losing a 2nd half cover bet into "losing a game due to FT shooting." I remember it well.
The problem with your claim is that if it did occur at the time, there would not have been a reason for you to raise it 3 years later. As hilarious as your Fields' "analysis"!
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ThePAMan's post asked if free shots were going to be a concern off of what he had seen.
Somehow that became 'the bigs missing free shots in a 30 point win wasn't important.
Which is completely separate than whatThePAMan posted.
Somehow it then became a guy who doesn't watch games wanting to know which game we lost.
Someone simply asked if free shot shooting was a concern.
We were the worst free shot shooting team since 2007, or whatever. We couldn't shoot 3's either.
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ThePAMan's
Who cares what you say.
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Who cares what you say.
Or you…
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ThePAMan's post asked if free shots were going to be a concern off of what he had seen.
Somehow that became 'the bigs missing free shots in a 30 point win wasn't important.
Which is completely separate than whatThePAMan posted.
Somehow it then became a guy who doesn't watch games wanting to know which game we lost.
Someone simply asked if free shot shooting was a concern.
We were the worst free shot shooting team since 2007, or whatever. We couldn't shoot 3's either.
LOL
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LOL
It was a completely accurate accounting.
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We lost to PU in the last 1:17 missing 3 of 4 foul shots and fouling 4 times. PU hit 7 free shots while we missed 3 of 4.
We proceeded to lose our conference tournament opener and our TOTTM opener to finish the season losing our final 3 games.
Yeah, free shots don't matter. Lol
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We lost to PU in the last 1:17 missing 3 of 4 foul shots and fouling 4 times. PU hit 7 free shots while we missed 3 of 4.
We proceeded to lose our conference tournament opener and our TOTTM opener to finish the season losing our final 3 games.
Yeah, free shots don't matter. Lol
I'll mark this post to come back to in 3 to 5 years.
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We lost to PU in the last 1:17 missing 3 of 4 foul shots and fouling 4 times. PU hit 7 free shots while we missed 3 of 4.
We proceeded to lose our conference tournament opener and our TOTTM opener to finish the season losing our final 3 games.
Yeah, free shots don't matter. Lol
I posted the play by play, and a win seems unlikely even with a little bit better free throw shooting.
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I’m tired and I should be sleeping, but from what I can tell Mn’s accounting doesn’t seem quite spot on. I’ll look at it again tomorrow with rested eyes.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dt0mQZPC/IMG-4865.png) (https://postimg.cc/WtQJX34p)
Two of the missed FTs were in the waning seconds down 6. We’d have lost by 4 instead of 6? Rock solid case, Ironsides.
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I posted the play by play, and a win seems unlikely even with a little bit better free throw shooting.
You've now moved to "unlikely".
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I posted the play by play, and a win seems unlikely even with a little bit better free throw shooting.
"Unlikely" doing yeoman's duty here.
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You've now moved to "unlikely".
In the words of Tempo "LOL"!
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Yeah, great example of a game we’d have won if we shot better free shots. This is like playing pickup basketball
against 5 year olds.
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Maybe stop moving the basket when the 5 year olds have the ball.
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Yeah, great example of a game we’d have won if we shot better free shots. This is like playing pickup basketball
against 5 year olds.
It is! There are others too as noted.
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Yeah, had we made those two FTs at the end could have lost by 4 instead of 6. Probably cost someone a cover somewhere.
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Yeah, had we made those two FTs at the end could have lost by 4 instead of 6.
Yeah, had we made those two FTs at the end we wouldn't have fouled 4 times to give up 7 free shot points so we would have won by 3.
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Yeah, had we made those two FTs at the end we wouldn't have fouled 4 times to give up 7 free shot points so we would have won by 3.
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL WUT
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So we fouled them after getting offensive rebounds 3x in a row? What fucking planet are you on?
(https://i.postimg.cc/KjGzDQRf/IMG-4900.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mznBbY31)
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The 3 missed free throws probably had nothing to do with it.
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LOL
What a joke
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Why do you hate made free throws ?
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL WUT
Figures you don't comprehend what he typed!
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Why do you hate made free throws ?
Because it somehow is the equivalent of capitalism?
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I hate misinformation, which unfortunately is the specialty of several people here.
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I hate misinformation, which unfortunately is the specialty of several people here.
The Duke of New York! A number 1!
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I hate misinformation, which unfortunately is the specialty of several people here.
Misinformation = things people say that Tempo doesn’t agree with
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Misinformation = things people say that Tempo doesn’t agree with
Not really. But great try! You sound like you might need a safe space.
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So it’s settled, you guys are wrong.
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LOL