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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: ThePAMan on December 13, 2020, 11:16:42 AM
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I have zero clue who realistically is available that could turn around this mess.
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The common names thrown around are Sean Lewis (Kent St, Babers guy) or Lance Leipold (Buffalo, Midwest ties from UW-WW)
But that isn’t really based on anything but connecting dots. Whitman doesn’t tip his hand on things like this. Or anything really
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https://twitter.com/howardgriffith/status/1338167154349383681?s=21
Lovie gone! 🙌🏼
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I dont know who it is yet, but the word is Whitman does
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Todd Monken is the other oft used name.
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Todd Monken is the other oft used name.
Jeff at Army or Todd? Have seen Jeff mentioned elsewhere. Makes sense.
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Someone who is not intent on having the first female in Big10 football to squib a kickoff would be a good start.
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Someone who is not intent on having the first female in Big10 football to squib a kickoff would be a good start.
That would be so Illinois
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Someone who is not intent on having the first female in Big10 football to squib a kickoff would be a good start.
Because Illinois
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Someone who is not intent on having the first female in Big10 football to squib a kickoff would be a good start.
Would she have made those FGs yesterday?
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Would she have made those FGs yesterday?
Now, now......
The holder had the strings facing the wrong direction on the short one, and a 53 harder in those conditions was probably not a good idea.
Where you surprised when it came up 10 yards short ? 🤣
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I have no idea. I have no names. As I've said before, I fear Illinois is just a coach wasteland. But Whitman loves to spend money and he's a good saleman so maybe he can bring someone in.
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I dont know who it is yet, but the word is Whitman does
I’m sure he knew already who or else he wouldn’t have pulled the trigger. Seems to be his style.
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Well, this was one way to distract from last night's complete debacle.
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Well, this was one way to distract from last night's complete debacle.
My thoughts exactly
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From the ESPN article:
Potential candidates to replace Smith include Buffalo's Lance Leipold, Army's Jeff Monken, Kent State's Sean Lewis, New York Giants assistant Bret Bielema (a former head coach at Wisconsin and Arkansas), Nevada's Jay Norvell, Toledo's Jason Candle, Tulane's Willie Fritz and several coordinators, including Notre Dame defensive coordinator Clark Lea and Wisconsin defensive coordinator Jim Leonhard.
If we fucking hire Bret Bielema I'm taking a sabbatical from football.
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2020 Big Ten football schedule: Dates, matchups
Dec. 18
Nebraska at Rutgers | 4 p.m. | Big Ten Network
Purdue at Indiana | 7:30 p.m. | Big Ten Network
Dec. 19
Ohio State vs. Northwestern (Big Ten Championship Game) | 12 p.m. | FOX
Minnesota at Wisconsin | 4 p.m. | Big Ten Nework
Illinois at Penn State | 5:30 p.m. | FS1
Michigan at Iowa | 7 p.m. | ESPN
Michigan State at Maryland | 7:30 p.m. | Big Ten Network
Getting the gofs/Wisco rivalry game in, after being covided, may have been the primary determinant.
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I am hearing it’s Lance Leipold
I approve, and think he is good
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Leipold appears to be a good pick. I wonder if Jeff Monken was a candidate.
Gus Malzahn is available.
No thanks.
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I am hearing it’s Lance Leipold
I approve, and think he is good
Shocking. What the hell is he thinking?
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I am hearing it’s Lance Leipold
I approve, and think he is good
I would like this hire very much.
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Brad Sturdy
@Sturdy32
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"If I get to make the next hire I am hiring Lance Liepold. offensive minded (50.8 ppg), great teacher, smart, midwest ties, and Big Ten ties. If Josh talked to Barry Alvarez he would highly recommend Leipold."
A good run first offense would be nice to see. Jeff Monken would do the same.
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I would like the Leipold hire.
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A good run first offense would be nice to see.
Worked great for Gary Moeller
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2020 Big Ten football schedule: Dates, matchups
Dec. 18
Nebraska at Rutgers | 4 p.m. | Big Ten Network
Purdue at Indiana | 7:30 p.m. | Big Ten Network
Dec. 19
Ohio State vs. Northwestern (Big Ten Championship Game) | 12 p.m. | FOX
Minnesota at Wisconsin | 4 p.m. | Big Ten Nework
Illinois at Penn State | 5:30 p.m. | FS1
Michigan at Iowa | 7 p.m. | ESPN
Michigan State at Maryland | 7:30 p.m. | Big Ten Network
Getting the gofs/Wisco rivalry game in, after being covided, may have been the primary determinant.
Gotta love Michigan drawing Iowa in the +1 game. Hawkeyes have been playing very well since they woke up after sleepwalking through the first 2 games.
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https://youtu.be/LoliR7preQs
At least you can say Whitman won’t settle for mediocrity and isn’t afraid to make decisive decisions. Now he just needs to improve on his hiring of football coaches.
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Worked great for Gary Moeller
Moeller was/is an idiot.
I hope we don't hire another idiot.
Imo, a run game with defense is the fastest way to get to respectability. I have no illusions of 9-3 or better year in and year out. 6-6 or 7-5 for 3 out of the next 5 years would be a good start.
I'm ok with being a poor man's NU or Wisco for a while.
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I was obviously kidding but it seems to me when non-elite programs have some quick hitting success it tends to be done with innovative high flying offenses.
Building a dominant running team is obviously a hallmark of a successful program, but it’s typically a long play since it requires a very talented and experienced O-Line which most rebuilding programs don’t have.
But probably more than anything in CFB we just need to recruit at a much higher level. Or just bulldoze the program and build a great soccer program that rob can be proud of.
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I got my Monken names mixed up btw. It’s Jeff, the Army coach, not Todd that would be a possibility .
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I was obviously kidding but it seems to me when non-elite programs have some quick hitting success it tends to be done with innovative high flying offenses.
Building a dominant running team is obviously a hallmark of a successful program, but it’s typically a long play since it requires a very talented and experienced O-Line which most rebuilding programs don’t have.
But probably more than anything in CFB we just need to recruit at a much higher level. Or just bulldoze the program and build a great soccer program that rob can be proud of.
And I was talking about not hiring another idiot. lol
Moeller did get followed by White tho, who had a great pass offense to watch from the upper deck.
Whoever wants the job has his work cut out for him, and better bring a different defense. I think talent has been upgraded with some players. Recruits will come with the wins.
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Off topic, but in today's paper.
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I got my Monken names mixed up btw. It’s Jeff, the Army coach, not Todd that would be a possibility .
How many Monkens does it take to change the Illini’s dim bulb?
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Off topic, but in today's paper.
10000 casts in 20 mins? Fake news!
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10000 casts in 20 mins? Fake news!
Doesn't appear to be from an anonymous source tho.
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10000 casts in 20 mins? Fake news!
Saw those a week or so back. They grow some bigguns up there
I had a very subpar year ...15 to 45”. Covid means no Canada and I was on limited time
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Off topic, but in today's paper.
Too had the fish didn't have guns to make it a fair fight.
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I got my Monken names mixed up btw. It’s Jeff, the Army coach, not Todd that would be a possibility .
Is this a done deal? Leipold or Monken,
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I just hope it's a good candidate and not some SJW's idea of wokeness.
Brady Hoke would be a great choice. Look what he's done with San Diego State in just 1 year.
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I just hope it's a good candidate and not some SJW's idea of wokeness.
Brady Hoke would be a great choice. Look what he's done with San Diego State in just 1 year.
Agree 1000%
Love your thoughts and vibe, btw.
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I just hope it's a good candidate and not some SJW's idea of wokeness.
Brady Hoke would be a great choice. Look what he's done with San Diego State in just 1 year.
Hahaha
I think I know who this is
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Hahaha
I think I know who this is
Definitely an alt and I’ve been trying to decipher who as well..... 🤔
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I wouldnt expect to know anything this week re Leipold or Jeff Monken. They both have games this week.
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My confidence level that Whitman will make a good hire is really, really low.
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I just hope it's a good candidate and not some SJW's idea of wokeness.
Brady Hoke would be a great choice. Look what he's done with San Diego State in just 1 year.
So you strongly prefer it be a white guy, duly noted.
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My confidence level that Whitman will make a good hire is really, really low.
So who would be your choice?
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I just hope it's a good candidate and not some SJW's idea of wokeness.
Brady Hoke would be a great choice. Look what he's done with San Diego State in just 1 year.
❤️ this guy
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I just hope it's a good candidate and not some SJW's idea of wokeness.
Brady Hoke would be a great choice. Look what he's done with San Diego State in just 1 year.
Let's see, inheriting a 10-3 team that pummeled Central Michigan in a bowl game and turning it into a 4-4 team this season. Yup, right on track to replace Dabo at Clemsonofabitch if the UofI doesn't act quickly.
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Hahaha
I think I know who this is
Welcome to the Board, Loren Tate!
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My confidence level that Whitman will make a good hire is really, really low.
The good news is that unlike Guenther he's winning to spend money and unlike Thomas he can spot a goober in an interview.
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The done deal rumor appears to have been garbage.
He was conducting interviews yesterday in Indianapolis. One of them was the guy from Wake Forest
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The done deal rumor appears to have been garbage.
He was conducting interviews yesterday in Indianapolis. One of them was the guy from Wake Forest
If Clawson could do at Illinois what he's done at Wake, I'd be happy
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If Clawson could do at Illinois what he's done at Wake, I'd be happy
Beat a few cupcakes, beat the conference teams your supposed to beat, one mild upset a year, major ass kickings against the big dogs
That’s probably about what you’d get
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Beat a few cupcakes, beat the conference teams your supposed to beat, one mild upset a year, major ass kickings against the big dogs
That’s probably about what you’d get
Sounds great!
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It sounded like Whitman may have leaned hard on Urban Meyer to try and get to Fickell. Guessing unsuccessful, as you’d expect
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Leaving his current situation for our current situation would be a fireable offense.
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Leaving his current situation for our current situation would be a fireable offense.
That, and 6 children in school
No chance
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The Path to a glorious future at Illinois
https://youtu.be/i2qEvOooeSc
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Leaving his current situation for our current situation would be a fireable offense.
And certifiable.
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I’ll go on record and say it will be Leipold. It will be announced within the next week.
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LOL at Fickell.
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I’ll go on record and say it will be Leipold. It will be announced within the next week.
56 year-old with zero P5 experience as HC.
Sure, why not.
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56 year-old with zero P5 experience as HC.
Sure, why not.
Interview Whitman and tell him that🤷🏻♂️
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I’ll go on record and say it will be Leipold. It will be announced within the next week.
Quite possible I’d say
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Enjoy the most excitement the football fans will have until the next coaching search.
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The only thing I really know about Luke Fickell is that in 2011 he and the tOSU came to Champaign and beat ranked and undefeated Illinois while only passing the ball like 6 times. I was tailgating. Didn’t even go in.
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The only thing I really know about Luke Fickell is that in 2011 he and the tOSU came to Champaign and beat ranked and undefeated Illinois while only passing the ball like 6 times. I was tailgating. Didn’t even go in.
He has a top 10 team
Makes 3.4 million
And....
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.....try uprooting that crew
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He has a top 10 team
Makes 3.4 million
And....
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.....try uprooting that crew
That does not look anywhere near Cincinnati to me.
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Two sets of twins. So they only had to do it four times.
That's efficient.
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Enjoy the most excitement the football fans will have until the next coaching search.
Do you have the scoop because you drove Whitman around when you were doing your Uber or Lyft side hustle?
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Two sets of twins. So they only had to do it four times.
That's efficient.
Saves a coach's salary on the hospital bills, too.
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Do you have the scoop because you drove Whitman around when you were doing your Uber or Lyft side hustle?
Josh drives a big Beemer sedan. But so far, he seems to do it himself.
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Enjoy the most excitement the football fans will have until the next coaching search.
Yeah pretty much, I was pretty excited when we hired Lovie as were most folks... well that turned out to be a dud... then again Illinois football is where coaches go to die
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He has a top 10 team
Makes 3.4 million
And....
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.....try uprooting that crew
This guy fucks
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He has a top 10 team
Makes 3.4 million
And....
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.....try uprooting that crew
y
He roots his wife routinely, it seems.
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I’m going
65% Leipold
30% Monken
5% mystery candidate
Reserve the right to change my mind 20 times
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not going to move my needle of interest one way or the other honestly, what a fuckin disaster Illinois football has always been
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You were born in 1986 or later?
Possibly yesterday?
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not going to move my needle of interest one way or the other honestly, what a fuckin disaster Illinois football has always been
Ahem. 71,000 (minus the poor souls who were sitting in the stands to support their top 10 ranked teams) may disagree with you. The stadium was rocking.
3 top 10 teams in Oct 1983. 56-19.
(https://i.ibb.co/N9fwRZ0/Screenshot-20201216-140953.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZBvy9WQ)
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Still have the Coke bottle to prove it.
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I broke my nose on the morning of the Iowa game. Lying on the couch that afternoon, I discovered Dick Martin & Jim Grabowski.
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You were born in 1986 or later?
Possibly yesterday?
I was alive during the entire Mike White era, went to the big games in 83 but don't remember em, was that the team that got obliterated by UCLA in the rose bowl?
seriously since the switch to two platoon football when have we ever been good? Even Mike white only had a 47–41–3 record in his eight years and is arguably our best modern coach
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I was alive during the entire Mike White era, went to the big games in 83 but don't remember em, was that the team that got obliterated by UCLA in the rose bowl?
seriously since the switch to two platoon football when have we ever been good? Even Mike white only had a 47–41–3 record in his eight years and is arguably our best modern coach
That was the first of my 2 Rose Bowls.
84 degrees and a beautiful day at the Granddaddy. Then we went inside.
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The 1963 teams woke up my interest. The 1962 / 63 basketball team won the Big Ten and went to the NCAA tournament. Then the 1963 Butkus & Grabowski team won the Rose Bowl.
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Does Nichi still post here? Is he able to tell us about the Robert Zupke era ?
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Doubt nichi was around during the Zuppke era...he had young kids to tend to at the time.
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Doubt nichi was around during the Zuppke era...he had young kids to tend to at the time.
Sounds like Tempo will be modern day nichi in about 30 years.
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Does Nichi still post here? Is he able to tell us about the Robert Zupke era ?
You mean IlliniRay is NOT Nichi?
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You mean IlliniRay is NOT Nichi?
🤯
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Ahem. 71,000 (minus the poor souls who were sitting in the stands to support their top 10 ranked teams) may disagree with you. The stadium was rocking.
3 top 10 teams in Oct 1983. 56-19.
(https://i.ibb.co/N9fwRZ0/Screenshot-20201216-140953.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ZBvy9WQ)
Probably the best season of Illinois football in my lifetime. Well, at least the best regular season; embarrassing ending. How did 1983 Illinois (10-2) -- the only football team in Big Ten history to beat every conference opponent in a single season -- end up getting absolutely demolished 45-9 by UCLA (7-4-1) in the Rose Bowl?
To this day, I still wonder what might have been if Don Rogers hadn't done something so incredibly stupid. Rogers was the UCLA safety who picked off 2 passes by Illini QB Jack Trudeau in that Rose Bowl. He was a 1st round pick in the 1984 NFL Draft by the Cleveland Browns and won NFL Defensive Rookie of the Year. By 1986, Rogers was one of the best safeties in the NFL. The Browns already had stars at both CB positions -- Hanford Dixon & Frank Minnifield; both would make their first Pro Bowl in 1986. So Cleveland appeared to be absolutely loaded in the defensive backfield for years to come. Unfortunately, being a Cleveland sports fan is far more cruel than being an Illinois football/basketball fan. On June 27, 1986, a mere eight days after Boston Celtics 1986 NBA Draft pick (#2 overall) Len Bias OD'd on cocaine, Rogers did the same. To make matters worse (if that is possible), Rogers was getting married the next day. So sad and completely avoidable, senseless and stupid. And talk about adversely impacting the fortunes of a football team. If Rogers hadn't made that awful mistake, perhaps The Drive never happens and the Browns beat Denver in the AFC Championship, thereby making it to the Super Bowl that season. Who knows, maybe the team doesn't even leave Cleveland (for Baltimore) following the 1995 season. Unfortunately, Cleveland Browns fans will never know what might have been.
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You kind of answered your first paragraph question with your second paragraph. You knew that, right?
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You kind of answered your first paragraph question with your second paragraph. You knew that, right?
It was way more than just those 2 picks thrown by Trudeau. It really was a complete team effort sh*t show by the Illini.
After all the years, I'm still mad at Elway and The Drive. And The Fumble (Byner coughs it up at the 1 yard line in '87 AFC Championship against Denver). And The Trade (Ron Harper for the rights to...Danny Ferry. WTF???). And The Shot (Jordan over Ehlo buzzer beater in deciding Game 5). And the Error (3 outs away from winning the 1997 World Series, then E4, loss in 11). And the Rain Delay (2016 World Series Game 7).
It really sucks to be a Cleveland sports fan.
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Point is, the whole team was hungover.
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Point is, the whole team was hungover.
I've actually had a player from that team coach one of my kids in a sport. He said some of the players made a return trip to Hef's for NYE.....
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I've actually had a player from that team coach one of my kids in a sport. He said some of the players made a return trip to Hef's for NYE.....
Well fuck yeah. Who cares about a stupid football game?
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Team meeting Sunday
Monday/Tuesday presser unless something goes way wrong me thinks
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Team meeting Sunday
Monday/Tuesday presser unless something goes way wrong me thinks
LL I'm assuming?
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What about a proven winner like Bill Parcells ? Might be risky but dude knows how to build rosters and win
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Is Bill Parcells still alive?
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Corpse of Bill Parcells could probably beat Lovie
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What is this Tom Manning smoke?
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What is this Tom Manning smoke?
Fake
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Yeah, the Buffalo guy looks like he was in mid-season Illini form in this game. WTF????
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Thought LL’s calling card was fundamentals, execution and player development and they shit the bed across the board.
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LL sure wasn’t looking like the savior tonight. Ouch.
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LL sure wasn’t looking like the savior tonight. Ouch.
But if he's hired as the next Illini HC, he'll have the stocked roster Lovie Smith left him.
Nevermind.
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Tom Herman out at Texas and Sarkisian replacing him it appears.
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Fortunately for everyone involved, Austin isn't a big party town.
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Fortunately for everyone involved, Austin isn't a big party town.
If he couldn't handle the pressure of USC why are they hiring him to run Texas?
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Maybe their AD is a hedge fund guy.