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Title: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 19, 2023, 11:05:32 AM
7 pm BTN


These guys just lost to WIU Friday night I think.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 11:12:11 AM
Illini -24.5

Hawkins is out with a knee so I think we’ll cover
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on November 19, 2023, 11:21:16 AM
Illini -24.5

Hawkins is out with a knee so I think we’ll cover

Is the knee connected to the cranium?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 11:22:50 AM
Is the knee connected to the cranium?

I can’t remember how the song goes exactly, but yes
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: No one in Mn on November 19, 2023, 11:59:57 AM
Illini -24.5

Hawkins is out with a knee so I think we’ll cover
Was Tonya Harding seen on campus ?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Illinifan5775 on November 19, 2023, 04:23:01 PM
Illini -24.5

Hawkins is out with a knee so I think we’ll cover
Gonna miss air balls from 3 and the bitching, moaning and complaining crap?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:15:05 PM
Is anyone watching this game?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Judge Judy on November 19, 2023, 07:17:01 PM
Yeah
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:18:53 PM
It appears Illini just trading baskets.  But I'm mainly focused on the Hawks game
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 07:19:20 PM
Kinda. Dainja might score 40.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: No one in Mn on November 19, 2023, 07:20:55 PM
Nice baseline move by Dainja for the reverse layup
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 07:28:14 PM
Nichi is creaming himself right now probably.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 07:32:01 PM
Nichi is creaming himself right now probably.

Came here to post this

No pun intended
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:38:40 PM
Apparently Bardo has not said anything to piss people off...yet
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:40:01 PM
How'd Danja miss that dunk?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:42:39 PM
WTF is Moretti doing against the press?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Beach Bum on November 19, 2023, 07:42:57 PM
The dancing bear is struggling to finish.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 07:44:00 PM
Southern's press is giving us fits
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:44:37 PM
WTF is Moretti doing? JFC
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Jobu on November 19, 2023, 07:45:12 PM
WTF is Moretti doing against the press?

Moretti is probably thinking about Nichi taking out his dentures and gumming his penis.

Probably distracted.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:45:25 PM
Southern's press is giving us fits

One would think the B1G teams are going to study that film...
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 07:45:43 PM
How'd Danja miss that dunk?

Didn’t have control of it when he got it up to the rim
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 07:46:08 PM
One would think the B1G teams are going to study that film...

Or Underwood would make some adjustments...
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:46:24 PM
Shannon with authority
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:46:49 PM
Or Underwood would make some adjustments...

I laughed out loud
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 07:48:54 PM
I laughed out loud

Was it a Tempo laugh?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 07:49:24 PM
Moretti is probably thinking about Nichi taking out his dentures and gumming his penis.

Probably distracted.

(https://media.tenor.com/3qV0YQvnH08AAAAM/jim-carrey-throw-up.gif)
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:50:30 PM
Was it a Tempo laugh?

I doubt I can replicate his dismissive laugh
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Beach Bum on November 19, 2023, 07:51:19 PM
Shannon looks great. Need this effort every half every game
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:52:11 PM
Shannon looks great. Need this effort every half every game

I hope he practiced his Free Shots yesterday
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Jobu on November 19, 2023, 07:55:10 PM
I hope he practiced his Free Shots yesterday

What about 3 point shots?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:55:31 PM
DGL needs to practice his free shots
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 07:55:38 PM
The Fighting Shannons are looking very good right now
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 07:58:30 PM
Oh oh. Moretti tripped over Nichi
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 07:58:39 PM
Moretti down. Nichi's heart just sank.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 08:00:24 PM
Moretti down. Nichi's heart just sank.

DGL's mom is probably happy
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Chickengeorge on November 19, 2023, 08:00:32 PM
The Fighting Shannons are looking very good right now

He called bank. I heard it.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Beach Bum on November 19, 2023, 08:02:50 PM
Moretti. Snake bite.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 08:05:43 PM
Moretti. Snake bite.

Maybe we will get a Photoshop of Moretti with the snake biting his crotch like the one with Weber from back in the day
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on November 19, 2023, 08:06:27 PM
Moretti is playing well, DGL would get more playing time, if he didn't try to highlight reel everything.

TSJ IS an All-American
Dainja SHOULD be starting when game plan sets up for it.
Domask gets lost in some of the game action
Rodgers is a WING, and a damn good one.
The rest of this team is complimentary at best.

Overall good first half, defense started poor, then picked up nicely...as TSJ said It's too damn easy...LOL
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 08:37:53 PM
DGL got his ass posterized. That was brutal.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 08:42:55 PM
Domask living up to his last name tonight.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 08:53:25 PM
I have a novel idea…let’s sit our runaway freight train of an All American before he gets hurt pulling some Superman stunt in a game we are up 30+. I know they’re trying to pad his stats but I’ve seen enough.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Beach Bum on November 19, 2023, 08:55:14 PM
Where's Hawkins today
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 08:56:15 PM
Where's Hawkins today

He has a knee.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 09:01:27 PM
DGL needs to hydrate better.

Check that. Probably rolled his ankle on Robb taking pictures under the basket.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 09:03:54 PM
Probably rolled his ankle on Robb taking pictures under the basket.

It’s a lot to step on
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on November 19, 2023, 09:09:55 PM
He has a knee.

He Knee'd's someone to help him with that attitude....knee's didn't look like he was hurt sitting on the bench bent over and looking less than involved for most of the game.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 19, 2023, 09:15:24 PM
Harris is going to have burn his redshirt at this rate.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 09:23:57 PM
Harris is going to have burn his redshirt at this rate.

How much do people expect all these guys to play once things get serious? What is the rotation here?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 19, 2023, 09:26:28 PM
Harris is going to have burn his redshirt at this rate.

Shannon has really improved. He is going to make an NBA roster.

We are a mess at PG. The offense is simply bad with Rodgers on top or Rodgers on the floor.  Moretti looked much more like a possibly usable player. But his injury looked bad. If that is high ankle kiss him goodbye for a few weeks. As noted DGL tries to do too much at times.

We were 5-22 from 3. Other than Goode right now we are terrible from three.

Oh, and 21 TOs.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 09:41:38 PM
How much do people expect all these guys to play once things get serious? What is the rotation here?

He’s alluding to the fact our guards kept getting hurt and leaving the game.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 19, 2023, 09:41:54 PM
How much do people expect all these guys to play once things get serious? What is the rotation here?

Good question. We have another scrimmage game on Friday. With Hawkins being out and playing poorly and nobody has stepped up at PG, and really nobody but TSJ playing well, I think they will be searching for several games. Goode making a case for major minutes as a shooter. Domask is really uneven but needs to be out there.

I think we will see TSJ and Domask and Hawkins playing 30+ minutes a game and the rest is up for grabs.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 09:49:58 PM
He’s alluding to the fact our guards kept getting hurt and leaving the game.

Does anyone but Nichi expect Moretti to get decent minutes once the real games begin? DGL?

I have no clue as have been only watching off and in when not on BTN+.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 09:50:58 PM
Shannon has really improved. He is going to make an NBA roster.

We are a mess at PG. The offense is simply bad with Rodgers on top or Rodgers on the floor.  Moretti looked much more like a possibly usable player. But his injury looked bad. If that is high ankle kiss him goodbye for a few weeks. As noted DGL tries to do too much at times.

We were 5-22 from 3. Other than Goode right now we are terrible from three.

Oh, and 21 TOs.

Harmon, Hansberry and Moretti at least showed a little bit tonight, albeit against a severely overmatched team. Shannon was 1-5 on threes, think he was too open.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 19, 2023, 09:51:09 PM
We are now 39 - 131 for 29% on 3PFGs.

We are taking 26 per game.

I think against fundamentally sound defenses with a rim protector we are going to struggle a lot.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 09:52:38 PM
Harmon, Hansberry and Moretti at least showed a little bit tonight, albeit against a severely overmatched team. Shannon was 1-5 on threes, think he was too open.

Harmon got undressed on one play,  where Bardo referred to lingerie...can't see Underachiever liking that.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 09:53:06 PM
Does anyone but Nichi expect Moretti to get decent minutes once the real games begin? DGL?

I have no clue as have been only watching off and in when not on BTN+.

I don’t think so. Hope is that DGL can keep getting more and more minutes at PG.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 19, 2023, 09:55:02 PM
Harmon got undressed on one play,  where Bardo referred to lingerie...can't see Underachiever liking that.

I’m sure he didn’t, but he did have a decent stat line in 15 mins of play and made a three. Gotta start somewhere.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 19, 2023, 10:05:22 PM
All joking aside about Moretti’s cock in everyone's mouth, he showed some ability to go north south with speed with the ball and his head up, see the floor a little bit, and make entry passes.

Rodgers is out of position and cannot stay in front of quicker guards. Have no idea what they will be trying to piece together. It’s fucked if Moretti is hurt and DGL is trying too hard to make an And1 Mixtape. Harmon is just a guy.

TSJ is going to have a lot on his shoulders once we hit the serious games in December.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on November 19, 2023, 10:05:27 PM
Does anyone but Nichi expect Moretti to get decent minutes once the real games begin? DGL?

I have no clue as have been only watching off and in when not on BTN+.

I do after tonights game dependent of course on nature of injury? Some can say what they will, but at least tonight and some of the last game, the kid had a flow going for us with sets and up tempo but under control. Would not shock me to see Rodgers go to the wing and us have a starting lineup of:

TSJ
Moretti
Rodgers
Domask
Dainja

Off bench

Hawkins
Guerrier
Goode
Hansberry
DGL
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 19, 2023, 10:05:50 PM
I’m sure he didn’t, but he did have a decent stat line in 15 mins of play and made a three. Gotta start somewhere.

Going from Utah Valley whatever to a B1G schedule, as lackluster as the league may be, is quite the step, don't you think?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on November 19, 2023, 11:06:47 PM
Going from Utah Valley whatever to a B1G schedule, as lackluster as the league may be, is quite the step, don't you think?

Good bench guy, nothing else, gets to say he went to Illinois vs Utah Valley. Good for him.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 20, 2023, 04:45:56 AM
Good bench guy, nothing else, gets to say he went to Illinois vs Utah Valley. Good for him.

He is trusted ahead of both DGL and Moretti in rotation right now overall.

I can bet that in the stretch he will be in more vs an FAU or Tenn or Rutgers.

We have no great options. None of Rodgers, Harmon, DGL, or Moretti should be starting or playing major minutes anywhere in a power conference, but we have to play somebody out there whether we like it or not.




Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Jrock74 on November 20, 2023, 08:57:52 AM
I guess this is good as any place to post this instead of starting a new thread but man our teams statistics this year are god awful.   This is after the Southern game.

We 54 for 93 from the foul line 58%
In 5 games we have shot 131 3 pointers only made 39. Good for 29%   :-\
And to cap it off we have 70 assists to 66 turnovers with just 1 player Terrance Shannon in averaging double figures through 5 games. 
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on November 20, 2023, 08:59:10 AM
He is trusted ahead of both DGL and Moretti in rotation right now overall.

I can bet that in the stretch he will be in more vs an FAU or Tenn or Rutgers.

Agree with all of that, he is still just a bench guy. The ILLINI got passed over by alot of transfers this past year, yes they got some also, but that is the reason he is on our team. Any other P-5 team, he is just a bench guy, same as with us...he just gets more PT here.

We have no great options. None of Rodgers, Harmon, DGL, or Moretti should be starting or playing major minutes anywhere in a power conference, but we have to play somebody out there whether we like it or not.





Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: No one in Mn on November 20, 2023, 09:14:57 AM
I guess this is good as any place to post this instead of starting a new thread but man our teams statistics this year are god awful.   This is after the Southern game.

We 54 for 93 from the foul line 58%
In 5 games we have shot 131 3 pointers only made 39. Good for 29%   :-\
And to cap it off we have 70 assists to 66 turnovers with just 1 player Terrance Shannon in averaging double figures through 5 games. 
So the shooting is not much difft than last year but the free shots are worse.
As LKDog has said repeatedly, roll the ball out and see what shakes is not a sound strategy.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 20, 2023, 09:24:05 AM
I guess this is good as any place to post this instead of starting a new thread but man our teams statistics this year are god awful.   This is after the Southern game.

We 54 for 93 from the foul line 58%
In 5 games we have shot 131 3 pointers only made 39. Good for 29%   :-\
And to cap it off we have 70 assists to 66 turnovers with just 1 player Terrance Shannon in averaging double figures through 5 games.

We have a major problem with our halfcourt offense right now.
We can't shoot and we do not have any offensive flow.
Everything is east west. Except TSJ who just takes matters into his own hands.
 
They tried running the fucking weave faster last night. Oh boy.

Then TSj just said, fuck it- nobody can guard me and let's get this over with.
Yes. Dainja feasts on weaker low D1 teams.

UW is committed to playing Hawkins at the 5 because Dainja is much less effective vs decent bigs.


Our only real scoring threat is TSJ. Domask is not getting looks or being put in situations to score.
We have one guy averaging double figures.

Here is an interesting stat.

Harding from Iowa has played 40 minutes all year in 4 games.
Has 17 Assists.
That would lead Illinois.




Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: No one in Mn on November 20, 2023, 09:30:45 AM
We can't shoot.
Here is an interesting stat.

Harding from Iowa has played 40 minutes all year in 4 games.
Has 17 Assists.
That would lead Illinois.

Nobody gets an assist on missed shots.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 20, 2023, 09:35:16 AM
Nobody gets an assist on missed shots.

LOL.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Custard on November 20, 2023, 09:44:43 AM
Nobody gets an assist on missed shots.

Touché
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 20, 2023, 10:15:17 AM
Another interesting stat.

Goode is 14-30 from three.
TSJ is 12-33.

The rest of team is 13-65. 20%.
Guerrier is 1-16. He is playing very tight.
We are 249th in the country on 3P%.

Hopefully these new guys who are proven (Domask and Guerrier) settle in.

Amazingly Moretti looked decent even with stopping to service several cocks in his mouth along the way.
But, he is just a guy who can dribble and pass with his head up. We have such a low bar on this team.  ::)
If Moretti is not hurt seriously, he and DGL need to play more. Go with it.
End the Rodgers experiment.



Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 10:48:26 AM
I guess this is good as any place to post this instead of starting a new thread but man our teams statistics this year are god awful.   This is after the Southern game.

We 54 for 93 from the foul line 58%
In 5 games we have shot 131 3 pointers only made 39. Good for 29%   :-\
And to cap it off we have 70 assists to 66 turnovers with just 1 player Terrance Shannon in averaging double figures through 5 games.

That could all be a problem come Jan 16th.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 10:49:13 AM
Nobody gets an assist on missed shots.

Maybe your best post this year.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLove1997 on November 20, 2023, 10:51:31 AM
Another interesting stat.

Goode is 14-30 from three.
TSJ is 12-33.

The rest of team is 13-65. 20%.
Guerrier is 1-16. He is playing very tight.
We are 249th in the country on 3P%.

Hopefully these new guys who are proven (Domask and Guerrier) settle in.

Amazingly Moretti looked decent even with stopping to service several cocks in his mouth along the way.
But, he is just a guy who can dribble and pass with his head up. We have such a low bar on this team.  ::)
If Moretti is not hurt seriously, he and DGL need to play more. Go with it.
End the Rodgers experiment.

yeah Rodgers is actually quite good at being a garbage man around the hoop, nothing more

he's extremely athletic but can't shoot or defend a PG so wtf is he bringing to the table at PG
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 11:18:38 AM
yeah Rodgers is actually quite good at being a garbage man around the hoop, nothing more

he's extremely athletic but can't shoot or defend a PG so wtf is he bringing to the table at PG

Someone has to play the position.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 11:26:12 AM
That could all be a problem come Jan 16th.

As well as January 6th.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLove1997 on November 20, 2023, 11:59:17 AM
Someone has to play the position.

well we have 2 PG's on the roster that we recruited for that role so ???
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 12:41:49 PM
well we have 2 PG's on the roster that we recruited for that role so ???

How big are their dicks?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Lkdog on November 20, 2023, 12:49:24 PM
Any word on Moretti injury? He might have helped.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 12:50:13 PM
Any word on Moretti injury? He might have helped.

Apparently has a sore penis from Nichi sucking too hard on it.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: illiniray on November 20, 2023, 01:50:44 PM
Hansbury had a nice stat line. 22 min, +19. 8 pts, 4-5. 7 rebounds, 2 off. 3 assists, 2 steals, 1 to, 2 pfs.

Guerrier 5-6, Dainja 5-7, Shannon 7-8 from 2.

Rodgers 5 rebounds, 4 off, in 13 minutes..

Led 75 - 41 with 6:25 left.

Yes, it was Southern U.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Reacher on November 20, 2023, 02:06:54 PM
Apparently has a sore penis from Nichi sucking too hard on it.

That’s probably a 3-5 day injury sounds like.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: illinicalvin on November 20, 2023, 04:34:33 PM
It's peak Illinois that i say "hey, Moretti might be usable!" 30 seconds before he goes down and can't walk on his own power.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: ILLINICHIEF on November 20, 2023, 04:36:56 PM
Someone has to play the position.

It will be Moretti. 1) He IS a PG 2) He up tempo's under control 3) He sees the passing lanes with ease 4) He handles it better in transition probably not named TSJ, and 5) TSJ already thinks he IS a good PG. TSJ voice will have him on the court imo. Let's see.

I thought DGL would be the PG by conference season, I was wrong, DGL just tries to hit too many homeruns...we need Moretti to facilitate and add some points, we don't need a homerun PG, when we have a homerun Alpha. This will get Rodgers back to his best area of play as well...wing/cut/rebound/ block shots...etc.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: illiniray on November 20, 2023, 08:47:17 PM
Forgot to mention that Guerrier's shooting is affected by a wrist injury.

Moretti has a foot injury. Severity unknown.
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: Jobu on November 20, 2023, 09:17:03 PM
Forgot to mention that Guerrier's shooting is affected by a wrist injury.

Moretti has a foot injury. Severity unknown.

Well, now his jaw is gonna be hurting. Right Nichi?
Title: Re: Southern University @ Illinois
Post by: illiniray on November 22, 2023, 09:21:20 PM
Post in thread 'Illinois vs Western Illinois, Friday, November 24th, 8:00pm CT, BTN' https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/post/illinois-vs-western-illinois-friday-november-24th-8-00pm-ct-btn.32821/post-1967295