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wtf r your favorite places to visit

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Re: wtf r your favorite places to visit
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2023, 02:02:36 PM »
Rich people don’t like having their pristine getaways spoiled by the unwashed masses. News at 11.
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Re: wtf r your favorite places to visit
« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2023, 04:14:44 PM »
Rich people don’t like having their pristine getaways spoiled by the unwashed masses. News at 11.

Sad but true.  On the plus side, we still have some pristine places that are not replaceable.  Anyone think population control is not warranted?

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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2023, 07:36:23 PM »
Rich people don’t like having their pristine getaways spoiled by the unwashed masses. News at 11.

It's not the rich people blocking construction in Tahoe - TRPA is adroitly protecting the lake and the vast majority of the land is US Forest Service land anyway.

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Re: wtf r your favorite places to visit
« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2023, 07:39:34 PM »
This happens to every single area that's vacation-y nice and keeps building to accommodate because the market pushes it; eventually you get a run-up of people moving permanently, etc. None of the solutions are palatable because people want to simultaneously believe in principles that are in conflict.

If you read the article - the problem Tahoe has is that they are *not* building. Which, from an environmental standpoint is probably correct, the runoff from construction/etc... has really put a dent into the Lake. The issue has been that the Bay Area, or more so Sacramento has kept growing so there is more demand from close-ish areas.

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Re: wtf r your favorite places to visit
« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2023, 10:13:56 PM »
It’s really hard to see a scenario where a bunch of rich people would use political pressure and/or a diversion to protect their unspoiled playground and their property values. 🙄

Hey, I’m all for not building at all at places like Tahoe. They aren’t making any more of them. If they can use environmental issues to stop it, that’s great. But it’s more than just that.
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Re: wtf r your favorite places to visit
« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2023, 11:29:00 PM »
The protections by TRPA have been in place for decades, and if they weren't, a lot of rich people would be building a lot more there. Property values would be higher because land would be developable or re-developable. If you buy a dump on the California side of South Lake, you get a dump and it mostly stays that way because it's so hard to get a rebuild permitted. Near the Stateline, there has been a lot of redevelopment in place that replaced some real flea bag motels with high end lodging, but once you get 1/4 mile away from Nevada, it looks like the 1950's (and not in a good way).

It's uniquely different than Vail or Whistler or Park City, because you can't really do anything because the Lake is so unique and the topography is so narrow and rough, compared to those places which are basically on 4 lane super freeways direct from major metropolitan areas.