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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #585 on: April 15, 2026, 01:19:23 PM »
To use the old Hollywood saw, No one knows anything. But a tapped-in player agent just texted me, “Have heard MBS wants to use the war as Force Majeure to pull the plug.”

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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #586 on: April 15, 2026, 02:37:07 PM »
But at some point, they have to realize there’s nothing in it for them

Doesn't matter. It is chump change for them! Maybe they can do without a yacht or one of the soccer teams in their league.
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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #587 on: April 15, 2026, 03:40:47 PM »
Yeah maybe.
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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #588 on: April 15, 2026, 06:38:59 PM »
Yeah maybe.

The FlailingNYTimes says they are cutting the cord. You can thank Trump....if he does not start the war, the Saudi are not having to spend money rebuilding hotels and refineries.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/world/middleeast/saudi-soverign-fund-liv-golf.html?unlocked_article_code=1.bFA.Yv0K.Qp-XJzWBu6wC&smid=url-share

Saudi Fund to Back Away From LIV Golf Under Mounting Financial Pressures

Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund is on the verge of announcing it will withdraw financial support from LIV Golf, the upstart golf circuit it launched four years ago to compete with the PGA Tour, a person familiar with the matter said Wednesday.

The Saudi league splashed into professional golf in 2022, attracting some of the sport’s biggest stars with contracts that exceeded — by tens of millions of dollars — their career earnings with more established circuits like the American-run PGA Tour.

The move comes as Saudi Arabia’s $1 trillion sovereign wealth fund announced a new five-year strategy on Wednesday, with the fund’s governor saying it would slow down some of its biggest projects as it focuses on “increasing the efficiency of investments.”

Saudi officials have said that the oil-rich kingdom is re-evaluating its priorities amid mounting financial pressures, including the cost of its pledges to host the World Expo in 2030 and the men’s soccer World Cup in 2034.

On Wednesday, Sergio Garcia, a LIV player who won the Masters Tournament in 2017, suggested the league’s athletes were in the dark about its fate, even as speculation swirled online about its future.

Mr. Garcia said the wealth fund’s governor, Yasir al-Rumayyan, had assured players that LIV was part of a broader, long-term effort. “Honestly, we haven’t heard anything other than what Yasir told us at the beginning of the year,” Mr. Garcia said at a news conference in Mexico on the eve of a LIV tournament there.

“Honestly, you know how these rumors are,” Mr. Garcia said. “There are always a lot of them. And I can’t tell you anything more than what we already know.”

The kingdom’s wealth fund did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The fund’s head, Mr. al-Rumayyan, said that the new strategy represents a “natural progression” of the fund’s path as it enters its second decade as a global investment powerhouse. The fund’s board had asked executives to look through their plans with an eye for “what’s must-have, and what’s good to have,” he said.

“There needed to be a reconsideration of the timing of some investments,” Mr. al-Rumayyan said, speaking during a news conference in Riyadh, the kingdom’s capital.

The fund, called the Public Investment Fund, has become a major source of capital around the world in recent years, with eye-catching investments in Uber, the Japanese conglomerate SoftBank and sports franchises like the English Premier League soccer team Newcastle United. It has poured money into the breakaway golf league and invested at least $2 billion in a fund run by Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law.

The fund was also a key locus of power for Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as he rose to become de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia. In one of his first moves after his father was appointed king in 2015, the then 29-year-old prince began to turn the fund — at the time a staid domestic entity — into a sovereign wealth vehicle capable of making momentous international bets.

In the early years of his rise, the prince led both Saudi Arabia and the sovereign fund on high-risk undertakings. The fund invested heavily in Magic Leap — an augmented reality company that has since floundered — and it made a major investment in Lucid, an American electric vehicle company.

In 2017, Masayoshi Son, the chief executive of SoftBank, declared that he had raised “$1 billion per minute” during a conversation with Prince Mohammed, for a total of $45 billion. The fund that money was invested into proved to be highly volatile, although it has made up for its staggering losses in recent years.

The assets managed by the PIF grew enormously during its first decade — up from an initial $150 billion. But much of that growth came through moving other state-owned assets under the fund’s umbrella, centralizing the kingdom’s wealth.

Cloaked in vague corporate language and short on details, the fund’s new, five-year strategy nonetheless reflects an important shift in Saudi Arabia’s trajectory under Prince Mohammed, now 40.

In his early years, the prince compared himself to technology “disrupters” like Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg, who pledged to “move fast and break things.” He spearheaded a disastrous military intervention in Yemen and oversaw an episode in which the Lebanese prime minister, Saad Hariri, was effectively held hostage in Riyadh and pressured to resign. In 2018, the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi by government agents in Istanbul sparked global outcry.

But in recent years, the prince has refashioned himself as a mediator and diplomat, while pulling back on some of the flashiest elements of his plans to overhaul Saudi Arabia’s oil-dependent economy.

The shift in the sovereign fund’s strategy will have a particularly noticeable effect on Neom, the science fiction-inspired region that the prince had planned to build along the kingdom’s Red Sea coast. There, officials had been working on plans that included a mountain ski resort and a linear metropolis composed entirely of two parallel skyscrapers. But many of those projects have since been scaled back or delayed as Neom — the sovereign fund’s largest project by far — ran over costs.

Neom is now focused on “controlled and gradual execution,” with its various projects rescheduled and prioritized according to their “commercial feasibility,” Mr. al-Rumayyan said. The first piece of Neom to be delivered will be an industrial city called Oxagon with a port and renewable energy facilities, he added.

Other key areas of focus for the kingdom in coming years will be investing in artificial intelligence and delivering on plans to host the World Expo in 2030 and the World Cup in 2034, Mr. al-Rumayyan said. Those projects were considered “critical” and have been prioritized over others, he said.

Asked about the impact that the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran will have on the fund, he said he did not see a large, long-term effect from the war.

Still, he warned of the “negative effects” the conflict will have across the globe as the prices of energy, fertilizer and computer chips all increase.
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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #589 on: April 15, 2026, 08:16:15 PM »
Doesn't matter. It is chump change for them! Maybe they can do without a yacht or one of the soccer teams in their league.

This is why you aren't a billionaire

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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #590 on: Today at 10:12:08 AM »
This is why you aren't a billionaire

Uh, it is using the same arguments Tempo employed for his Bezos WaPo take.
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« Reply #591 on: Today at 10:15:47 AM »
Uh, it is using the same arguments Tempo employed for his Bezos WaPo take.

“Same” as in they are both pegs, but one is round and one is square. So, not the same.
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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #592 on: Today at 10:28:57 AM »
“Same” as in they are both pegs, but one is round and one is square. So, not the same.

The only difference is you are happy to see LIV fail.
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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #593 on: Today at 10:41:03 AM »
https://awfulannouncing.com/golf/liv-finish-2026-season-saudi-funding-withdrawal.html

They have the money! It is just a rounding error for the Saudi Weatlth Fund. This is unfair to all the golfers. When will someone think of the golfers?
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« Reply #594 on: Today at 11:32:18 AM »
The only difference is you are happy to see LIV fail.

Absolutely. It's been bad for golf fans. I am not watching that LIV product which sucks, but would like to see Bryson and Rahm teeing it up in the PGA events. The Beatles broke up and we got Lennon's solo stuff, Harrison's solo stuff, and Wings. LIV golf has not produced the same result.

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« Reply #595 on: Today at 11:46:03 AM »
The only difference is you are happy to see LIV fail.

There’s other differences.
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« Reply #596 on: Today at 11:55:38 AM »
Let’s see if you’re smart enough to figure them out.
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Re: The PGA Tour/Golf thread
« Reply #597 on: Today at 12:05:12 PM »
Let’s see if you’re smart enough to figure them out.

The Saudis are even richer than Bezos?
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« Reply #598 on: Today at 12:06:45 PM »
There’s other differences.
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« Reply #599 on: Today at 12:12:58 PM »
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Tempo loves the PGA and not LIV and longs for the Good Ol' Days where all the rich Trumper golfers played in the same tournaments?
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