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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #210 on: March 01, 2023, 10:40:04 PM »
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #211 on: March 01, 2023, 10:46:59 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 01, 2023, 09:31:27 PM
You’re pretty sure a third of the league has been involved in a lethal/intoxicated car race and then lied to police multiple times (or something similar)?
No, I would bet 1/3 of the league has driven recklessly or under the influence. If you're concerned about the behavior as a predictor the result and the police showing up is immaterial.

Let me put it this way. Could you have predicted Henry Ruggs's issues? And, related question, would you take Josh Jacobs on the Bears?
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #212 on: March 02, 2023, 06:36:49 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 01, 2023, 10:34:36 PM
Wonder if there is a database where we can see how many players have been charged with 2 misdemeanors. Good thing he was not speeding in Virginia. It is a felony there. Jason Werth got 5 days in jail. Commanders won't trade up to pick Carter now.

I thought they were building the franchise around JFC? Who builds their franchise around an interior D lineman?

I’d think a defensive coach would want a defensive player to build around, too, wouldn’t you? This the precious 3 tech we’re talking about here. Weren’t Aaron Donald and Warren Sapp “building blocks” in this same defense? You are incredibly dense.

The fact that Larry Ogunjobi was the one FA they tried to spend big money on last year should tell you the importance they place on this position.
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« Reply #213 on: March 02, 2023, 06:40:53 AM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on March 01, 2023, 10:46:59 PM
No, I would bet 1/3 of the league has driven recklessly or under the influence. If you're concerned about the behavior as a predictor the result and the police showing up is immaterial.

Let me put it this way. Could you have predicted Henry Ruggs's issues? And, related question, would you take Josh Jacobs on the Bears?

The lying to police (multiple times) and general lack of accountability concern me as much as anything. Apparently this isn’t the first issue he’s had. He may be a great player in the NFL, I just know I wouldn’t take him as the building block to my defense on a team that’s trying to build a “culture.” If I’m Pittsburgh or KC, maybe I take the kid.
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« Reply #214 on: March 02, 2023, 06:42:07 AM »
I’d have no problem moving on to Anderson or Tyree Wilson.
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« Reply #215 on: March 02, 2023, 06:42:45 AM »
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« Reply #216 on: March 02, 2023, 06:44:08 AM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on March 01, 2023, 10:46:59 PM
No, I would bet 1/3 of the league has driven recklessly or under the influence. If you're concerned about the behavior as a predictor the result and the police showing up is immaterial.

Let me put it this way. Could you have predicted Henry Ruggs's issues? And, related question, would you take Josh Jacobs on the Bears?

And no, I’m not a Josh Jacobs fan. We already have Josh Jacobs lite. I like RBs that can carry it 20x AND run away from people. Like Saquon or Jonathon Taylor.
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« Reply #217 on: March 02, 2023, 06:55:21 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on March 01, 2023, 10:34:36 PM
Wonder if there is a database where we can see how many players have been charged with 2 misdemeanors. Good thing he was not speeding in Virginia. It is a felony there. Jason Werth got 5 days in jail. Commanders won't trade up to pick Carter now.

I thought they were building the franchise around JFC? Who builds their franchise around an interior D lineman?

The fact that it’s a felony in another state should tell you something. The fact that this was at least the 2nd time he got in trouble for massively exceeding the speed limit should tell you something. I’m not saying he’s a lost cause, or irredeemable, just that an immature kid with legal issues (which could still get worse) isn’t who I’d build my defense around if I’m rebuilding from scratch. Not worth the risk. GMs get one shot. I’d gladly take Will Anderson or Tyree Wilson and move on.
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« Reply #218 on: March 02, 2023, 07:10:48 AM »
This is McShay talking about Carter’s “character issues” back in December. So the accident probably isn’t just a one-time “oopsie.”

https://twitter.com/jontweetssports/status/1603164357323591684?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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« Reply #219 on: March 02, 2023, 07:16:03 AM »
Oh, and let’s not forget that he actually drove off after the accident. This is worse than “he effed up and got caught.”
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« Reply #220 on: March 02, 2023, 07:17:55 AM »
And another thing, I’m guessing the fact this story broke 30 minutes before he was supposed to speak at the combine isn’t coincidental. The Athens Police Department did that on purpose.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #221 on: March 02, 2023, 07:39:56 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 02, 2023, 06:44:08 AM
And no, I’m not a Josh Jacobs fan. We already have Josh Jacobs lite. I like RBs that can carry it 20x AND run away from people. Like Saquon or Jonathon Taylor.

We know: JFC.
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« Reply #222 on: March 02, 2023, 07:41:03 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 02, 2023, 06:55:21 AM
The fact that it’s a felony in another state should tell you something. The fact that this was at least the 2nd time he got in trouble for massively exceeding the speed limit should tell you something. I’m not saying he’s a lost cause, or irredeemable, just that an immature kid with legal issues (which could still get worse) isn’t who I’d build my defense around if I’m rebuilding from scratch. Not worth the risk. GMs get one shot. I’d gladly take Will Anderson or Tyree Wilson and move on.

It tells me Virginia is messed up.
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« Reply #223 on: March 02, 2023, 07:46:00 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 02, 2023, 06:36:49 AM
I’d think a defensive coach would want a defensive player to build around, too, wouldn’t you? This the precious 3 tech we’re talking about here. Weren’t Aaron Donald and Warren Sapp “building blocks” in this same defense? You are incredibly dense.

The fact that Larry Ogunjobi was the one FA they tried to spend big money on last year should tell you the importance they place on this position.

So you meant "defense" instead of "franchise".
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« Reply #224 on: March 02, 2023, 07:54:45 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on March 02, 2023, 07:10:48 AM
This is McShay talking about Carter’s “character issues” back in December. So the accident probably isn’t just a one-time “oopsie.”

https://twitter.com/jontweetssports/status/1603164357323591684?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

And he still said he was going second in the draft. Hmmm.

Well, character issues will be good cover for his conditioning issues that were apparent in the playoffs.
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