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Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here

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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2023, 07:43:06 PM »
Point being there are reasons to be skeptical that this will work.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #16 on: January 08, 2023, 07:43:24 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:38:35 PM
How good were his FA signings for this year?

Not good. He also wasn’t breaking the bank, because he couldn’t afford to. He had a plan, and it didn’t include “winning this year.” He was clearly working on a budget last year.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #17 on: January 08, 2023, 07:45:15 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:43:06 PM
Point being there are reasons to be skeptical that this will work.

Of course! It could ALWAYS fail. I don’t think anyone here is guaranteeing this will get the Bears to the Super Bowl. Perhaps not even the playoffs, but I’m liking our situation. I’d take this 100% over Pace trying to squeeze 7-9 wins out of an over paid roster with little to no valuable assets.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #18 on: January 08, 2023, 07:56:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:43:24 PM
Not good. He also wasn’t breaking the bank, because he couldn’t afford to. He had a plan, and it didn’t include “winning this year.” He was clearly working on a budget last year.

How do you know that was his plan the whole time? While Mack was traded in March, Quinn was moved in late Oct and Roquan was shortly thereafter. Granted, they were 3-5 at the time and then lost every game thereafter and were obviously not going to re-sign Roquan. Not saying those were the wrong moves, but at 3-5 they were actually in the playoff hunt despite being a bad team.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2023, 07:58:28 PM »
Quote from: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:45:15 PM
Of course! It could ALWAYS fail. I don’t think anyone here is guaranteeing this will get the Bears to the Super Bowl. Perhaps not even the playoffs, but I’m liking our situation. I’d take this 100% over Pace trying to squeeze 7-9 wins out of an over paid roster with little to no valuable assets.

We all know Pace sucked.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2023, 07:59:44 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:58:28 PM
We all know Pace sucked.

But yet you advocate for his “try to win today” philosophy.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2023, 08:00:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:59:44 PM
But yet you advocate for his “try to win today” philosophy.

That is not what I said. I am questioning the basis for your assertion that tanking was his plan from the start.
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« Reply #22 on: January 08, 2023, 08:00:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:56:46 PM
How do you know that was his plan the whole time? While Mack was traded in March, Quinn was moved in late Oct and Roquan was shortly thereafter. Granted, they were 3-5 at the time and then lost every game thereafter and were obviously not going to re-sign Roquan. Not saying those were the wrong moves, but at 3-5 they were actually in the playoff hunt despite being a bad team.

I don’t imagine Poles knew his plan would work so perfectly. But it’s obvious “winning” wasn’t the priority this season. Clearing cap space and acquiring assets was.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #23 on: January 08, 2023, 08:01:44 PM »
Quote from: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 08:00:46 PM
I don’t imagine Poles knew his plan would work so perfectly. But it’s obvious “winning” wasn’t the priority this season. Clearing cap space and acquiring assets was.

Even when they were 3-5?
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #24 on: January 08, 2023, 11:09:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 08:01:44 PM
Even when they were 3-5?

You mean when they traded Roquan Smith? Why would you trade your best defensive player if your priority was to make a playoff push?
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2023, 11:10:51 PM »
If the goal was to make a playoff push, they obviously don’t trade Roquan.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2023, 11:18:59 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 08, 2023, 07:56:46 PM
How do you know that was his plan the whole time?

He made it more than obvious.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #27 on: January 09, 2023, 06:46:47 AM »
Quote from: ThePeeAMan on January 08, 2023, 11:18:59 PM
He made it more than obvious.

He made it obvious when trading Quinn and Roquan. Not sure he made it obvious before that point.
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #28 on: January 09, 2023, 08:07:20 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 09, 2023, 06:46:47 AM
He made it obvious when trading Quinn and Roquan. Not sure he made it obvious before that point.

Clearly the plan was at least semi-fluid. Lucas Patrick was the only notable offensive signing they had. Poles was clearly saving his bullets for 2023. There was always a chance they could overachieve, and for a few games it looked like they might. But I can’t imagine Poles and Eberflus looked at this roster at any point last year and though, “oh yeah, playoffs.”
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Re: Create your Bears Draft Day Trades here
« Reply #29 on: January 09, 2023, 08:07:59 AM »
This year was always a dump bad salary and let the chips fall where they may year.
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