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Beating the Lions is all that matters thread

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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2023, 01:53:36 PM »
Let’s not acknowledge the fact that Fields was forced into action after being inadequately prepared as a starter in a massively failing regime that was swiftly kicked to the curb after drafting him. Then in year 2 was given nothing to work with in the only tank I can remember comparable to the Dolphins of a few years ago.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2023, 01:58:07 PM »
Looks like the Texans are not in on the plan to get the Bears the #1 overall pick.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2023, 01:58:17 PM »
Quote from: Jrock74 on January 01, 2023, 01:46:50 PM
Peyton Manning was 3 and 13 in his first season as a colt.

This is Fields second season with the Bears though. Look at the progression from rookie to 2nd season.

Peyton Manning
3-13
13-3

Trevor Lawrence
3-14
7-8

Justin Fields
2-8
3-12

Mitch Trubisky
4-8
11-3

Troy Aikman
0-11
7-8

If you are a difference making QB, you should improve your teams record from rookie to 2nd year.  But even if you aren’t (like Mitch) it’s nearly impossible to have as bad of record as Fields has and end up successful


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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2023, 01:59:49 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 01, 2023, 01:58:17 PM
This is Fields second season with the Bears though. Look at the progression from rookie to 2nd season.

Peyton Manning
3-13
13-3

Trevor Lawrence
3-14
7-8

Justin Fields
2-8
3-12

Mitch Trubisky
4-8
11-3

Troy Aikman
0-11
7-8

If you are a difference making QB, you should improve your teams record from rookie to 2nd year.  But even if you aren’t (like Mitch) it’s nearly impossible to have as bad of record as Fields has and end up successful

Lol. Nevermind the fact his team is literally full of end of the roster/practice squad caliber players.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2023, 02:00:47 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 01, 2023, 01:58:17 PM
This is Fields second season with the Bears though. Look at the progression from rookie to 2nd season.

Peyton Manning
3-13
13-3

Trevor Lawrence
3-14
7-8

Justin Fields
2-8
3-12

Mitch Trubisky
4-8
11-3

Troy Aikman
0-11
7-8

If you are a difference making QB, you should improve your teams record from rookie to 2nd year.  But even if you aren’t (like Mitch) it’s nearly impossible to have as bad of record as Fields has and end up successful

Yep. Mitch really elevated the ‘18 Bears.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2023, 02:00:53 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 01:53:36 PM
Let’s not acknowledge the fact that Fields was forced into action after being inadequately prepared as a starter in a massively failing regime that was swiftly kicked to the curb after drafting him. Then in year 2 was given nothing to work with in the only tank I can remember comparable to the Dolphins of a few years ago.

There’s no tanking in the NFL.  Other than teams intentionally playing bad QBs.

It’s not like the Bears haven’t spent most of their cap money. They are just an overall bad team, and a franchise QB should elevate bad teams.  Fields doesn’t
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2023, 02:01:43 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 01, 2023, 01:58:17 PM
This is Fields second season with the Bears though. Look at the progression from rookie to 2nd season.

Peyton Manning
3-13
13-3

Trevor Lawrence
3-14
7-8

Justin Fields
2-8
3-12

Mitch Trubisky
4-8
11-3

Troy Aikman
0-11
7-8

If you are a difference making QB, you should improve your teams record from rookie to 2nd year.  But even if you aren’t (like Mitch) it’s nearly impossible to have as bad of record as Fields has and end up successful

What can you tell me about this list? Go into specifics if you can. Please and thank you.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2023, 02:02:39 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 01:46:01 PM
*He says unironically in a season in which they are engaged in the closest thing you will see to a full on tank, and in a game in which the defense is on pace to give up 55 points*

60 points for the Lions looking well within reach.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2023, 02:04:59 PM »
Some members of the 1990 Cowboys. This is only a snap shot of some of them.

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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #39 on: January 01, 2023, 02:06:00 PM »
Another QB in a bad organization:

Sam Bradford
7-9
1-9

He never elevated anyone and was done rather quickly for being a #1 pick.

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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #40 on: January 01, 2023, 02:07:49 PM »
38-10. Why is Fields in this game when nursing injuries?
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #41 on: January 01, 2023, 02:08:27 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 01, 2023, 02:06:00 PM
Another QB in a bad organization:

Sam Bradford
7-9
1-9

He never elevated anyone and was done rather quickly for being a #1 pick.

Congrats. You found an example of a QB who didn’t work out.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #42 on: January 01, 2023, 02:09:16 PM »
Bears are playing like they're finally all in on the idea of having a top 2 pick.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #43 on: January 01, 2023, 02:09:46 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 01, 2023, 02:01:43 PM
What can you tell me about this list? Go into specifics if you can. Please and thank you.

I showed how Hall of Fame QBs (Manning/Aikman) elevate their teams by their 2nd year.

Even a mediocre QB like Trubisky the Bears won with in his 2nd year.

Then a guy like Trevor Lawrence, who was also part of just as bad of situation as Fields, is able to be 7-8 this year. 

There’s just no evidence of any QB being 5-20 after 25 starts of turning things around. 

Expecting the Bears to improve in Fields 2nd season is a reasonable expectation if Fields is a franchise caliber winning QB. All evidence points to that he isn’t.
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Re: Beating the Lions is all that matters thread
« Reply #44 on: January 01, 2023, 02:10:09 PM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 01, 2023, 02:06:00 PM
Another QB in a bad organization:

Sam Bradford
7-9
1-9

He never elevated anyone and was done rather quickly for being a #1 pick.

Based on that snapshot alone (only a fraction of the 1990 Cowboys), which 3 1st Ballot HOFers and 4 other near HOFers do you identify on this ‘22 Bears’ offense?
« Last Edit: January 01, 2023, 02:14:34 PM by Tempo34 »
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