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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3960 on: November 25, 2023, 05:23:38 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 25, 2023, 05:16:47 PM
You did like his talent..even if I stand corrected on the 2d

Everyone likes his talent. He’s 6’4 238 and ran a 4.42 coming out of college. Dude was a freak athletically. 
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3961 on: November 26, 2023, 12:13:19 PM »
Id like to know if Ryan Poles ever even inquired about Mike Evans in the off season. I was shocked they didn’t unload his salary for some solid draft capital.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3962 on: November 26, 2023, 01:14:08 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 26, 2023, 12:13:19 PM
Id like to know if Ryan Poles ever even inquired about Mike Evans in the off season. I was shocked they didn’t unload his salary for some solid draft capital.

I sent a link about this awhile back. He wasn’t available and yes we reached out…
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3963 on: November 26, 2023, 01:52:27 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on November 26, 2023, 01:14:08 PM
I sent a link about this awhile back. He wasn’t available and yes we reached out…

He doesn't read anyone else's links. You'll never EVER get it.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3964 on: November 26, 2023, 02:50:52 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on November 26, 2023, 01:14:08 PM
I sent a link about this awhile back. He wasn’t available and yes we reached out…

Sweet.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #3965 on: November 26, 2023, 02:51:45 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 26, 2023, 01:52:27 PM
He doesn't read anyone else's links. You'll never EVER get it.

Cranky. Hungover?
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3966 on: November 26, 2023, 04:04:21 PM »
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« Reply #3967 on: November 27, 2023, 07:53:21 AM »
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3968 on: November 27, 2023, 08:50:46 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on November 27, 2023, 07:53:21 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38983435/bears-face-justin-fields-decision-land-no-1-draft-pick
Da Bears.
Kevin Warren wasn't around when Fields was drafted.
Ryan Poles. Ditto.
Matt Eberflus. Ditto.
Luke Getsy. Ditto.

If da Bears wait until the draft to make decisions on draft choices.....
If Getsy is gone, da Bears will pick an OC before they decide on a QB.
If Eberflus is also gone, da Bears will decide on a HC and a DC before they decide on a QB.
If Poles is gone, da Bears will decide on a GM, a HC and an OC before they decide on a QB.
da Bears will be deciding on the 2024 QB before their 1st coaching interview.

A bunch of unknowns will put their heads together to decide if the money in Fields' next contract, not the extension, is better spent on something other than Fields.
How Fields finishes this year will go a long way in determining what da Bears are able to tell any potential coaches who will undoubtedly be asking who the 2024 QB will be.

Where is Ghost of Royko to offer some contract insight ?
If Poles is still around and misses on Stroud and Williams or Maye his goose may be cooked. And I assume that thought has entered his mind.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3969 on: November 27, 2023, 09:21:45 AM »
“Missing on Stroud (or Williams or Maye)” isn’t what will bring Poles down. It’s wins and losses. Period. If he sticks with Fields and he’s not quite as good as a couple of the others, it won’t matter if Fields is “good enough” and the Bears are contenders.

I went down the list. Right now, Fields is objectively a top 18-20 QB which puts him close to average, and that’s if you grade harshly and give every other quarterback in his range the “edge.” And he hasn’t reached his ceiling yet. Field’s floor will be a top 12-15 quarterback. That’s his absolutel floor if he stays healthy.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3970 on: November 27, 2023, 09:43:19 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 27, 2023, 09:21:45 AM
“Missing on Stroud (or Williams or Maye)” isn’t what will bring Poles down. It’s wins and losses. Period. If he sticks with Fields and he’s not quite as good as a couple of the others, it won’t matter if Fields is “good enough” and the Bears are contenders.

I went down the list. Right now, Fields is objectively a top 18-20 QB which puts him close to average, .....
Other than that I said "may be cooked", which should obviously depend on wins vs losses, you're now in the Fields is "close to average" as a QB ?
Carry on.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3971 on: November 27, 2023, 11:05:29 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on November 27, 2023, 09:21:45 AM
“Missing on Stroud (or Williams or Maye)” isn’t what will bring Poles down. It’s wins and losses. Period.

I thought wins and losses did not count yet?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3972 on: November 27, 2023, 01:57:39 PM »
Quote from: Mn on November 27, 2023, 09:43:19 AM
Other than that I said "may be cooked", which should obviously depend on wins vs losses, you're now in the Fields is "close to average" as a QB ?
Carry on.

“Close to average” by the harshest measurement, and very likely to still get better. There’s no one on the list I can think of in that range that is likely to get better. Meaning, he can be at a minimum likely above average. That’s good enough to win games if you’ve got a good roster. And again, I think this is the bleakest outcome.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3973 on: November 27, 2023, 01:58:41 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on November 27, 2023, 11:05:29 AM
I thought wins and losses did not count yet?

I’m not sure anyone has said that. They’ll for sure start counting next year if Poles is still here, which I’m expecting him to be.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #3974 on: November 27, 2023, 01:59:43 PM »
My point was I don’t think anyone besides meatballs EXPECTED the rebuild to be complete 11 games in.
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