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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1755 on: December 20, 2022, 11:54:58 AM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 20, 2022, 10:33:40 AM
They’ve barely even played him (Claypool). Coaches must not have fair in him…your logic. It’s been widely acknowledged he’s struggled to grasp what’s going on. Barely is an exaggeration but he’s not been on the field nearly as much as expected, and not been a featured part of the offense.

Here he is folks, the DipshitMan “spreading the blame around.”

So you agree the trade is up there with picking a 40 year kick retuner in the 3rd round?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1756 on: December 20, 2022, 11:57:36 AM »
Hopefully Poles gets better as a GM quicker than JFC's QB play gets better.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1757 on: December 20, 2022, 12:05:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 11:53:54 AM
I love it that you are so invested in the Wingback.

Hopefully he works his ass off during the summer. He has a long way to go to be a decent NFL QB.

What I love is your default setting of literally blaming Fields for everything first, and foremost. He is the primary reason they are competitive (and the coaching staff, primarily Eberflus IMO deserves a good amount of credit, too). And no, I don’t think Fields is a complete quarterback yet.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1758 on: December 20, 2022, 12:07:52 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 11:57:36 AM
Hopefully Poles gets better as a GM quicker than JFC's QB play gets better.

He’s had some hits and misses already. But every GM does. He needs to have a strong 2023-2024. Overall I’d give him a B maybe B+.

Would be happy to debate his hits and misses if anyone likes.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1759 on: December 20, 2022, 12:10:30 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 11:54:58 AM
So you agree the trade is up there with picking a 40 year kick retuner in the 3rd round?

I hated the trade the moment I heard about it. I heard some reasonable arguments to justify it. I softened a bit. What we didn’t know is that pick might end up being what would ordinarily be the first pick in the 2nd round (with Miami not having a pick). I can see why they made the trade and I hope it works out, but I never liked it.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1760 on: December 20, 2022, 12:11:40 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 20, 2022, 12:05:52 PM
What I love is your default setting of literally blaming Fields for everything first, and foremost. He is the primary reason they are competitive (and the coaching staff, primarily Eberflus IMO deserves a good amount of credit, too). And no, I don’t think Fields is a complete quarterback yet.

Most important position on the field.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1761 on: December 20, 2022, 12:25:20 PM »
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Most important position on the field.

Never once argued differently. But expecting him to elevate this franchise to playoff or near playoff level is A LOT to ask of any quarterback, let lone a 2nd year quarterback in a new system with rookie coaches.

You can fairly criticize Fields for not being a polished or consistent passer. All I’ve ever asked is that you be reasonable. You’re not. In the least.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1762 on: December 20, 2022, 12:44:35 PM »
If you’re being objective, there isn’t a quarterback in the NFL who is receiving less help from his entire organization than Justin Fields. It’s not even debatable. But I will be happy to debate if you want.

Expecting him to elevate this franchise to relevancy at this time isn’t at all realistic or fair.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1763 on: December 20, 2022, 12:50:01 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 20, 2022, 12:25:20 PM
Never once argued differently. But expecting him to elevate this franchise to playoff or near playoff level is A LOT to ask of any quarterback, let lone a 2nd year quarterback in a new system with rookie coaches.

You can fairly criticize Fields for not being a polished or consistent passer. All I’ve ever asked is that you be reasonable. You’re not. In the least.

Ok. He has sucked in the 4th quarter when they have had leads or a chance to win a game and when Ds know he has to throw the ball. 

Hopefully he works hard over the summer and can be the player you and Dan Orlovsky proclaim he will be.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1764 on: December 20, 2022, 12:50:38 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 20, 2022, 12:44:35 PM
If you’re being objective, there isn’t a quarterback in the NFL who is receiving less help from his entire organization than Justin Fields. It’s not even debatable. But I will be happy to debate if you want.

Expecting him to elevate this franchise to relevancy at this time isn’t at all realistic or fair.

What about the QB on Lovie's Texans?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1765 on: December 20, 2022, 12:52:23 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 12:50:01 PM
Ok. He has sucked in the 4th quarter when they have had leads or a chance to win a game and when Ds know he has to throw the ball. 

Hopefully he works hard over the summer and can be the player you and Dan Orlovsky proclaim he will be.

He’s made some plays in the 4th quarter that weren’t rewarded.

Also, have you noticed how when the opposing defense KNOWS they have to throw they can’t block it up for shit? You do watch the games, right?
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1766 on: December 20, 2022, 12:55:43 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on December 20, 2022, 12:52:23 PM
He’s made some plays in the 4th quarter that weren’t rewarded.

Also, have you noticed how when the opposing defense KNOWS they have to throw they can’t block it up for shit? You do watch the games, right?

Yes and I also know that when he does get time to throw, he hasn't been remotely consistent or usually competent.

He played well in the Packer game.
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1767 on: December 20, 2022, 12:58:47 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on December 20, 2022, 12:50:38 PM
What about the QB on Lovie's Texans?

Brandon Cooks, 1st round guard 2022, 2nd round WR, starting RB 2022. Also drafted a TE. Added guard and tackle in free agency.

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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1768 on: December 20, 2022, 12:59:34 PM »
He’s probably your best and closest example
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Re: 2023 Bears
« Reply #1769 on: December 20, 2022, 01:16:27 PM »
Can also throw in that the Texans have a highly experienced offensive coordinator. Not a guy learning on the job.
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