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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #270 on: September 26, 2025, 05:16:23 AM »
'You're funding Putin's war effort .....' comes across as more matter of fact than lecture.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #271 on: September 26, 2025, 09:14:59 AM »

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So you want Europe to keep funding Russia’s war effort and not hit them where it really hurts?

This whole Ukraine support thing appears to be one of the biggest scams ever. Western Europe makes a big show of supporting them and condemning Russia and rattling sabers but just keeps right on quietly buying a bulk of their oil and gas from their nemesis.

Trump goes in and encourages them to quit funding Russia’s war efforts and Ray is mad about that. Probably drank a bottle of Tylenol while he was pushing pins into his Trump voodoo doll this morning.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #272 on: September 26, 2025, 09:53:02 AM »

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So another childish lecture from Trump.  The UN isn't peeing their pants over what a dementia-addled clown yelled at them for an hour earlier this week.  They are busy trying to figure out how they should restructure their relationships now that the world's sole remaining superpower is a pathetic dumpster fire.  They know what Trump doesn't about life, it goes on.  Countries, powers, leaders like people, come and go.  The world moves on. 
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #273 on: September 26, 2025, 02:34:33 PM »
Ray is mad about that.

Probably drank a bottle of Tylenol

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #274 on: September 26, 2025, 02:38:02 PM »
So you want Europe to keep funding Russia’s war effort and not hit them where it really hurts?

This whole Ukraine support thing appears to be one of the biggest scams ever. Western Europe makes a big show of supporting them and condemning Russia and rattling sabers but just keeps right on quietly buying a bulk of their oil and gas from their nemesis.

AI Overview

Sanctions imposed after the 2022 invasion of Ukraine have drastically reduced European imports of Russian oil, although some exceptions and workarounds persist. The European Union (EU) has largely replaced Russian oil with supplies from the US, Norway, and other global producers while continuing efforts to fully phase out Russian energy imports.
Decline in EU imports of Russian oil

Near-total reduction: The EU has almost eliminated its import of Russian crude oil and petroleum products since the invasion of Ukraine. The share of petroleum oil imports from Russia dropped from 29% in the first quarter of 2021 to just 2% in the second quarter of 2025.

Limited exceptions: Landlocked countries, particularly Hungary and Slovakia, were granted temporary exemptions from the ban on seaborne imports. They continue to receive Russian oil via the Druzhba pipeline, though the EU is considering measures to phase out these remaining supplies.

EU phase-out plan: In 2025, the European Commission proposed a regulation to fully phase out Russian oil and gas imports by the end of 2027. This plan includes ending new gas and oil contracts in 2026 and stopping all imports under existing long-term contracts by 2027.
Shifts in Europe's energy market

New suppliers: Europe has diversified its oil sources, with the US becoming the bloc's largest supplier by the end of 2022. Other countries, including Norway, Saudi Arabia, Brazil, Iraq, and Angola, have also significantly increased their exports to Europe.

LNG imports continue: While pipeline gas from Russia has dropped substantially, the EU has continued to import Russian liquefied natural gas (LNG), though recent sanctions packages seek to end these imports as well.

Third-country refining: A significant workaround has emerged where third countries, such as India and Turkey, import discounted Russian crude, refine it, and then export the finished petroleum products to Europe. In response, the EU has adopted new measures to ban imports of refined products made from Russian crude.

Impact on Russia's oil exports
Budgetary constraints: The sanctions have reduced Russia's fossil fuel export revenues, impacting its ability to fund its war efforts.

Market redirection: Russia has sought new buyers for its oil, particularly in China and India, but often at a significant discount.

"Shadow fleet" usage: In August 2025, over half of Russia's crude oil exports were transported by a "shadow fleet" of older tankers to circumvent the G7 price cap. A quarter of these were on sanctioned tankers, raising environmental concerns.

Price cap changes: The EU's 18th sanctions package in July 2025 lowered the price cap on Russian seaborne crude to $47.60 per barrel. Stricter enforcement of the cap is projected to further cut Russia's revenues.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #275 on: December 08, 2025, 07:50:56 AM »
Gee, who could have ever guessed that Zelensky’s administration would be rife with corruption, greed and a complete lack of oversight? He runs the country about as well as Walz is running Minnesota.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #276 on: December 08, 2025, 11:15:36 AM »
Gee, who could have ever guessed that Zelensky’s administration would be rife with corruption, greed and a complete lack of oversight? He runs the country about as well as Walz is running Minnesota.

Well then, guess it will be Minnesota's own fault when Canada invades.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #277 on: December 08, 2025, 01:00:14 PM »
It's a good thing the Trumputin admin is as pure as the wind driven snow
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #278 on: December 08, 2025, 10:53:25 PM »
It's a good thing the Trumputin admin is as pure as the wind driven snow

A few years ago when the American left was engaging in hero worship over the handsome, noble leader of Ukraine (in his fake military fatigues and battle gear) because that’s what Americans were propagandized to do, some of us wanted to exercise caution that this was a notoriously corrupt state and maybe we should be careful about sending a couple hundred billion of American assets over there without significant oversight or reciprocal agreements. This thing has Minnesota written all over it, but on a much, much larger scale.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #279 on: December 08, 2025, 11:04:09 PM »
A few years ago when the American left was engaging in hero worship over the handsome, noble leader of Ukraine (in his fake military fatigues and battle gear) because that’s what Americans were propagandized to do, some of us wanted to exercise caution that this was a notoriously corrupt state and maybe we should be careful about sending a couple hundred billion of American assets over there without significant oversight or reciprocal agreements. This thing has Minnesota written all over it, but on a much, much larger scale.

Many of the countries we liberated in WW2 were corrupt. You and Trump would have just given them to Hitler and Mussolini. They made the trains run on time. Of course, trains are socialist. So confusing what to do.

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #280 on: December 08, 2025, 11:05:59 PM »
A few years ago when the American left was engaging in hero worship over the handsome, noble leader of Ukraine (in his fake military fatigues and battle gear) because that’s what Americans were propagandized to do, some of us wanted to exercise caution that this was a notoriously corrupt state and maybe we should be careful about sending a couple hundred billion of American assets over there without significant oversight or reciprocal agreements. This thing has Minnesota written all over it, but on a much, much larger scale.

I mean, it's really confusing.

Zelensky is corrupt - so fuck em let Putin run him over.

Honduran President corrupt drug dealer. Pardon him.

Venezuelan drug dealers. Nuke em

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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #281 on: December 08, 2025, 11:08:37 PM »
I mean, it's really confusing.

Zelensky is corrupt - so fuck em let Putin run him over.

Honduran President corrupt drug dealer. Pardon him.

Venezuelan drug dealers. Nuke em

They reportedly stole from the power  system. Not sure our weapons are going towards running Ukraine's power grid.

I guess you just need to be the right type of corrupt to satisfy the Trumpers.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #282 on: December 09, 2025, 09:21:52 AM »
Many of the countries we liberated in WW2 were corrupt. You and Trump would have just given them to Hitler and Mussolini. They made the trains run on time. Of course, trains are socialist. So confusing what to do.

Patton was right, we defeated the wrong enemy in WWII. Now Western Europe is conquering themselves through suicidal empathy and woke insanity.
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Re: Russia vs Ukraine
« Reply #283 on: December 09, 2025, 09:24:18 AM »
I mean, it's really confusing.

Zelensky is corrupt - so fuck em let Putin run him over.

Your strawman, not mine. Funny Putin never invaded them under Trump, innit?

Venezuelan drug dealers. Nuke em

Agreed.
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« Reply #284 on: December 09, 2025, 09:26:43 AM »
They reportedly stole from the power  system. Not sure our weapons are going towards running Ukraine's power grid.

I guess you just need to be the right type of corrupt to satisfy the Trumpers.

This is only the beginning. Just wait.

Though I suspect a lot of western leaders don’t want this egg on their faces, so they’ll do everything they can to suppress the Ukrainian money laundering scheme just as they have the past 10+ years.
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