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Will Guenther Jr. have the balls to fire his ass?

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Voting closed: November 27, 2021, 08:07:28 PM

When Underaciever loses to Weber

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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #135 on: November 28, 2021, 06:51:32 PM »
You are turning into that Harv guy.

ouch!
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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #136 on: November 28, 2021, 07:15:40 PM »
You are turning into that Harv guy.

Damn!
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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #137 on: November 28, 2021, 07:20:54 PM »
And yesterday I was too hard on Plummer. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just trying to provide objectively true information.
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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #138 on: November 28, 2021, 07:32:20 PM »
And yesterday I was too hard on Plummer. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just trying to provide objectively true information.

It was a terrible loss.
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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #139 on: November 28, 2021, 07:35:07 PM »
And yesterday I was too hard on Plummer. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just trying to provide objectively true information.

keep it up, I enjoy reading your posts... they are usually true so its kind of hard to reply with a hot take reply lol
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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #140 on: November 28, 2021, 07:43:43 PM »
And yesterday I was too hard on Plummer. 🤷🏻‍♂️ Just trying to provide objectively true information.

No, you can just be a total homer sometimes. And you are not very objective about Plummer. Kofi sure as fck wants him out there chucking away.
I can point you to several metrics that show his value even as one dimensional as he is.

But you did start this board so I give you much credit and respect for that, and even donated to the cause.
No other board would put up with us.



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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #141 on: November 28, 2021, 09:03:00 PM »
I think you’re missing my point about Plummer. I was actually talking him up all off-season as part of my assertion that this team could be a better tourney team than last year’s. Which got construed as “We are better without Ayo” and I took a bunch of heat for it.

It’s not that he doesn’t add a lot of value to the team, it’s that when we don’t have our other main offensive weapons at the guard slots he’s going to draw the best defender and be a focus point for the defense. I hope it’s a temporary situation.
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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #142 on: November 29, 2021, 02:18:06 PM »
You are turning into that Harv guy.

Your posts about Underwood sound like Truth at this point.

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Re: When Underaciever loses to Weber
« Reply #143 on: November 29, 2021, 04:51:14 PM »
Your posts about Underwood sound like Truth at this point.

Sorry you are offended by being challenged on your illogical comments. I know you are not used to that here. I deal in actual outcomes. Underwood is a pretty mediocre coach by objective standards. I have regularly given him significant credit
for the 19/20 season. He had a tough defensive system by second half, took Ayo off the ball where he was much better, and other guys contributed on a balanced scoring team.

Otherwise he has been pretty much just a guy. The new contract is bizarre but they found enough rich guys to foot the bill.
Maybe you think he is actually a top 10 coach. I don't give a shit either way about it. They are all overpaid.
 
6th year in P5. 93-70. 49-47 in conference play. 1-2 in NCAA tourney and arguably one of worse losses in Illinois history.
I even give him 5 more years barring a Weber like collapse. I assume we will make the tourney this year and maybe a couple more times during that period.

And maybe you wish to discuss our start with some admittedly tough breaks. This is where one might separate the sheep from the goats.
This is where other relatively average guys like Gard and Painter earn their pay. 
At least we should compete better, see better basic execution and adjustments even if we lose.

Lets see what Underwood's team does tonight and the next two games because it will require a lot of coaching and motivation.
I don't even care if we lose. The season is not make or break in November and December. But just compete and execute at a higher level.