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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #75 on: October 30, 2021, 04:39:31 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on October 30, 2021, 04:24:00 PM
What did they call? What was the down and situation?

Fourth and half a yard. Lined up and faked a run up the middle and then tossed to Brown on a sweep. Had one guy in the open field to beat and he probably would have taken it to the house but the defender made a helluva shoe string tackle.
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #76 on: October 30, 2021, 04:46:57 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 30, 2021, 03:36:52 PM
Tucker used the transfer portal to overhaul the team because he knew it was not good.

Meanwhile, Bert shows up and is left whining about his 2 deep.

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/08/how-mel-tucker-is-using-the-transfer-portal-to-overhaul-michigan-state-football.html

Ok so you realize that Tucker took basically the entire roster he inherited into the 2020 season, went 2-5, THEN cleaned house and brought in 20 transfers.

Bert came in and decided to keep the veterans, culled some of the guys from the last couple classes that weren’t going to cut it in this scheme. (They all transferred to low level schools, BTW) and brought in a few transfers.

In the 34 minute interview that Tempo doesn’t have time to watch, he discusses the evaluation process and how they’re going to clean house and rebuild the roster. Which is where the whole 2 deep comment came from. It wasn’t whining, it was recognizing a problem he has to fix.

So in the end Tempo and you are mad at him for laying out the plans to do exactly what you’re praising Tucker for.
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #77 on: October 30, 2021, 04:47:27 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 30, 2021, 04:39:31 PM
Fourth and half a yard. Lined up and faked a run up the middle and then tossed to Brown on a sweep. Had one guy in the open field to beat and he probably would have taken it to the house but the defender made a helluva shoe string tackle.

Ooofff…
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #78 on: October 30, 2021, 04:49:02 PM »
Brown just sat there shaking his head. Couldn’t believe it. He tried to beat him to the outside and got tripped up. If he’d have juked/cut it inside he probably goes to the house untouched.
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #79 on: October 30, 2021, 04:51:12 PM »
“Whining” wasn’t the point. It’s that you don’t speak poorly of your players to the media; comparing them to a race horse without pedigree. Maybe I overreacted a bit in calling him “trash,” but for the life of me, I can’t see how calling him out on that is out of line or controversial.
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #80 on: October 30, 2021, 04:55:29 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on October 30, 2021, 03:36:52 PM
Tucker used the transfer portal to overhaul the team because he knew it was not good.

Meanwhile, Bert shows up and is left whining about his 2 deep.

https://www.mlive.com/spartans/2021/08/how-mel-tucker-is-using-the-transfer-portal-to-overhaul-michigan-state-football.html
Looks like Tucker followed 14 years of Dantonio with probably some semblance of year in and year out roster construction. Looks like 27 players transferred out which leaves a lot of bodies to replace.
Since the Zooker, we've had Beckman, Cubit and Lovie. Bielema gave the players the option to stay, and a half dozen or so transferred out. Bielema should have plenty of roster spots to fill after this year. I assume he will be active in the transfer portal in his 2nd year, as was Tucker. 
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #81 on: October 30, 2021, 04:58:28 PM »
Quote from: Mn on October 30, 2021, 02:09:05 PM
This is the play where everybody else has players push the ball carrier forward
Posted before they ran the 4th down play
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #82 on: October 30, 2021, 05:02:55 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 30, 2021, 04:49:02 PM
Brown just sat there shaking his head. Couldn’t believe it. He tried to beat him to the outside and got tripped up. If he’d have juked/cut it inside he probably goes to the house untouched.
The db stayed home and made a good play. Running an isolation 1 on 1 play on a down that means staying alive for a bowl game chance was too much thinking, imo.

Bottom line is they never should have let Lovie in the locker room at halftime.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2021, 05:06:38 PM by Mn »
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #83 on: October 30, 2021, 05:05:39 PM »
Quote from: Mn on October 30, 2021, 05:02:55 PM
The db stayed home and made a good play. Running an isolation 1 on 1 play on a down that means staying alive for a bowl game chance was too much thinking, imo.

Just line up and show if you’re man enough to win. No trickery, just bulldoze the shit out of them
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #84 on: October 30, 2021, 05:10:25 PM »
Does Samari Collier get some snaps now ?
At the gofs for his first action would be a better choice than at xxxx.
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #85 on: October 30, 2021, 05:12:30 PM »
I don't know how you don't pound that straight up the middle. A touchdown loses the game so at the time out you know they stressed staying home and watching for play action. No one will ever fault a call if the line can't get a half yard.
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #86 on: October 30, 2021, 05:13:02 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on October 30, 2021, 05:05:39 PM
Just line up and show if you’re man enough to win. No trickery, just bulldoze the shit out of them
The old Lollinois school of thought. Well that worked, no reason trying it again.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2021, 05:17:00 PM by Mn »
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #87 on: October 30, 2021, 05:16:33 PM »
Quote from: illinicalvin on October 30, 2021, 05:12:30 PM
I don't know how you don't pound that straight up the middle. A touchdown loses the game so at the time out you know they stressed staying home and watching for play action. No one will ever fault a call if the line can't get a half yard.
The whole country pushes the ball carrier forward for more yardage.
Not us.
We've done it a couple of times this year. It's just not in the play book.
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #88 on: October 30, 2021, 05:34:47 PM »
Couldn’t find a video of the 4th down play. Anyone have one?
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Re: Bus victims vs tSUoNJ
« Reply #89 on: October 30, 2021, 06:19:20 PM »
Quote from: Custard on October 30, 2021, 04:46:57 PM
Ok so you realize that Tucker took basically the entire roster he inherited into the 2020 season, went 2-5, THEN cleaned house and brought in 20 transfers.

Bert came in and decided to keep the veterans, culled some of the guys from the last couple classes that weren’t going to cut it in this scheme. (They all transferred to low level schools, BTW) and brought in a few transfers.

In the 34 minute interview that Tempo doesn’t have time to watch, he discusses the evaluation process and how they’re going to clean house and rebuild the roster. Which is where the whole 2 deep comment came from. It wasn’t whining, it was recognizing a problem he has to fix.

So in the end Tempo and you are mad at him for laying out the plans to do exactly what you’re praising Tucker for.

One would think his watching any tape from the last couple of years would have caused him to reach the conclusion he discussed last week.
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