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Re: Underwood
« Reply #870 on: January 15, 2022, 10:49:16 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 15, 2022, 09:24:43 AM
Thanks! It’s funny when someone else points out they were “right” or “AOTC” you attempt to diminish it with sarcasm. When it’s you, you can’t help but gloat and say I told you so. It is quite astonishing actually. But again, thanks for giving me the button and 3 pack of cookies.

Has Illinois ever hired a football or basketball coach you weren’t optimistic about?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #871 on: January 15, 2022, 10:50:36 AM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 15, 2022, 09:24:43 AM
Thanks! It’s funny when someone else points out they were “right” or “AOTC” you attempt to diminish it with sarcasm. When it’s you, you can’t help but gloat and say I told you so. It is quite astonishing actually.

You are obsessed with this narrative. Far more than even any of the others.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #872 on: January 15, 2022, 10:54:14 AM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on January 15, 2022, 10:21:08 AM
He at least did some coaching by switching up from his disastrous gimmick D.  Not sure how many coaches would do that.  [Insert obligatory "too bad he didn't coach in the Loyola game" comment here.]

Clearly. His coaching wasn’t my main problem with him. It was his personality and stewardship. He seems to have adapted or overcome his early missteps.
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"He commented more than once that, 'You know, Hitler did some good things, too,'" Kelly recalled to The Times. Kelly said he would usually quash the conversation by saying "nothing (Hitler) did, you could argue, was good," but that Trump would occasionally bring up the topic again.
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« Reply #873 on: January 15, 2022, 12:55:53 PM »
Quote from: Tempo34 on January 15, 2022, 10:49:16 AM
Has Illinois ever hired a football or basketball coach you weren’t optimistic about?

At the time they were hired I thought we could do much better than Beckman, Groce, and Weber.

Lovie I thought could either be a home run or bust. I leaned much more towards home run honestly.

After Self, I thought getting Weber was a huge fuck up on Ron Guenther‘s part and a huge step down in what we could’ve gotten. Quickly bought in mistakenly after 04-05 season.

Beckman was a doofus and I was not optimistic at all. Lasagna!

Groce not really. After the first season though, I warmed up a little bit, but overall never thought the future looked really bright.

Have always been high on Underwood. It’s a culture thing. I like his style.

I was optimistic with Zook. I figured a great recruiter and Florida reject could kill it here at Illinois where expectations and pressure were much lower. He did for awhile until we realized he was extremely dumb with the coaching part.

Loved the Lon Kruger hire and he had the “it” factor. This was one of the first coaching hires that really influenced me a lot. I was the right age (high school) and a huge transition for Illinois basketball. Lou leaving and a fresh start. The excitement was very high for me. His teams really solidified my passion for Illini sports. The Peoria connection was awesome and his teams were always tough and great culture. I thought we were going to get a NC with the Peoria guys when we signed them outta Manual. I still have that News-Gazette newspaper with them on the front.

I guess a fan is supposed to be optimistic and a homer. That’s the whole point. You should always be optimistic with your team and passionate until you realize it’s not the guy anymore to lead the program. It’s no fun to not buy in from the start. A fans part is to enjoy the ride and root for their team. When things happen like with Weber, Beckman, Groce, etc… happen, and you know they’re not the guy anymore, vent your frustration. Just not sure why you wouldn’t give them a chance from the start and try to be AOTC. It sucks all the enjoyment out of it imo. Give them the benefit of the doubt until they prove you right or wrong. That’s the way I view it anyways.

 


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Re: Underwood
« Reply #874 on: January 15, 2022, 01:49:36 PM »
The 2001 Bears scarred me for life (the playoff loss to Philadelphia, anyway). Haven’t been a “homer” for any team since. I could maybe dial it back a bit, but it’s the way I look at things now.
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #875 on: January 15, 2022, 11:21:19 PM »
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AOTC on basically everything measurable

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Re: Underwood
« Reply #876 on: January 16, 2022, 04:32:15 AM »
Quote from: Custard on January 15, 2022, 11:21:19 PM
Underachiever



That's nice. [Insert obligatory NCAA tournament record comment here.]
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« Reply #877 on: January 20, 2022, 03:02:57 PM »
Speaking of halftime adjustments, here’s some actual stats regarding Illinois and Underwood. Appears people on here calling people homers isn’t actually true. He DOES make changes at halftime…

https://twitter.com/jgtrends/status/1484203315504185348?s=21
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« Reply #878 on: January 20, 2022, 04:29:18 PM »
Just means he’s doing a terrible job of scouting and coming out strong.
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« Reply #879 on: January 20, 2022, 04:31:27 PM »
Quote from: Custard on January 20, 2022, 04:29:18 PM
Just means he’s doing a terrible job of scouting and coming out strong.

Nice spin. I see what you did there. Well done.
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« Reply #880 on: January 21, 2022, 10:47:02 PM »
Here’s some more stats to break the Underwood can’t coach myth…

https://twitter.com/jgtrends/status/1484548087330844673?s=21
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #881 on: January 21, 2022, 10:51:46 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on January 21, 2022, 10:47:02 PM
Here’s some more stats to break the Underwood can’t coach myth…

https://twitter.com/jgtrends/status/1484548087330844673?s=21

How do you still praise this clown???

To make it funnier…We were up 5 with 17 minutes to go down an all American…

Then Underwhelm pulls a Bruce Weber and gets outscored 41-20 rest of the way 🤣🤣🤣…
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #882 on: January 22, 2022, 01:19:25 AM »
Quote from: The_Truth on January 21, 2022, 10:51:46 PM
How do you still praise this clown???

To make it funnier…We were up 5 with 17 minutes to go down an all American…

Then Underwhelm pulls a Bruce Weber and gets outscored 41-20 rest of the way 🤣🤣🤣…

Would be a lot worse if we weren't at the top of the Big ten. But between last year and now this year at or near the top, it's a lot different than the Groce and post 05 Weber years where we never had a good conference record. You know?
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Re: Underwood
« Reply #883 on: January 22, 2022, 06:46:30 AM »
Honestly, given how good of NBA season Ayo is having, it makes the Loyola failure look even worse.

You gave this coach the most dominant college big man, and a starting NBA guard, and they got worked by an MVC team in which Underwood had no answers or adjustments. 

This program without Kofi looks like garbage going forward.   


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Re: Underwood
« Reply #884 on: January 22, 2022, 07:17:06 AM »
Quote from: Dominic on January 22, 2022, 06:46:30 AM
Honestly, given how good of NBA season Ayo is having, it makes the Loyola failure look even worse.

You gave this coach the most dominant college big man, and a starting NBA guard, and they got worked by an MVC team in which Underwood had no answers or adjustments. 

Guessing Toll Booth Willie/Plaza/(original) Truth has had me on block for some time....
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