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No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!

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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #1800 on: Today at 01:42:33 PM »
Quote from: Custard on Today at 12:54:12 PM

But I do view Islam as a direct threat to Western society because I do not believe the two are compatible. For some reason, the left has largely embraced Islam over the last 10 to 12 years, despite their culture going completely against left wing values.

You’re leaning heavily on hyperbole today, letting fear and resentment shape your judgment. 

Islam need not be practiced radically.  Most Muslims in the West seek the same things as anyone else: prosperity, cultural acceptance, and the freedom to practice their faith without social or political intimidation.

There isn't really anything unique about Islam that elevates it to the status of threat; Christianity, practiced radically, is just as destructive to Western Culture.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #1801 on: Today at 01:42:45 PM »
Quote from: Custard on Today at 12:46:25 PM
War is a nightmare and it sucks that they’ve been locked in one for generations. Both sides have learned to hate each other, and it probably is a situation where each side wants the other one extinct. Per usual tempo sides with the group that he sees as the underdog despite the fact that they initiated this last round of hell. I don’t even have a side here.

Tempo is all over the map but my take is that it’s the responsibility of a much more developed nation (economically and morally) to not respond to terrorism in kind. You need to protect your people but flattening another country, while efficient towards that end, doesn’t fit with the standards we try to uphold.
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« Reply #1802 on: Today at 01:44:30 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on Today at 01:42:45 PM
Tempo is all over the map but my take is that it’s the responsibility of a much more developed nation (economically and morally) to not respond to terrorism in kind. You need to protect your people but flattening another country, while efficient towards that end, doesn’t fit with the standards we try to uphold.

I agree completely
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« Reply #1803 on: Today at 01:49:55 PM »
Quote from: Custard on Today at 12:54:12 PM

But I do view Islam as a direct threat to Western society because I do not believe the two are compatible.


Weird sentence. Islam (a religion) is incompatible with Western society (not a religion and pretty ill defined)

Is Christianity compatible with … Eastern Society?

Is the problem religion in general? I don’t think so - religion whatever one thinks of it has added a lot of value at the lowest level. It’s just the Popes and Imams and Kings of England and etc… that abuse their people in the name of religion for personal wealth and “glory”
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« Reply #1804 on: Today at 01:51:28 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on Today at 01:49:55 PM
Weird sentence. Islam (a religion) is incompatible with Western society (not a religion and pretty ill defined)

Is Christianity compatible with … Eastern Society?

Is the problem religion in general? I don’t think so - religion whatever one thinks of it has added a lot of value at the lowest level. It’s just the Popes and Imams and Kings of England and etc… that abuse their people in the name of religion for personal wealth and “glory”

Fundamental Islam is pretty much antithetical to Western values. Particularly traditional liberal values.
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Re: No New Wars! Well, maybe some new wars. OK, we LOVE war!
« Reply #1805 on: Today at 02:09:24 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on Today at 01:42:45 PM
Tempo is all over the map but my take is that it’s the responsibility of a much more developed nation (economically and morally) to not respond to terrorism in kind. You need to protect your people but flattening another country, while efficient towards that end, doesn’t fit with the standards we try to uphold.

General Sherman marching toward the sea says, "Hold my beer."  Harry S. Truman, on August 6th and 9th, 1945, says, "Let me show you how it's done, motherfuckers."

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« Reply #1806 on: Today at 02:20:32 PM »
Quote from: murphstahoe on Today at 01:42:45 PM
Tempo is all over the map but my take is that it’s the responsibility of a much more developed nation (economically and morally) to not respond to terrorism in kind. You need to protect your people but flattening another country, while efficient towards that end, doesn’t fit with the standards we try to uphold.

How am I “all over the map?” I’ve been nothing if not consistent.
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« Reply #1807 on: Today at 02:24:50 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on Today at 02:09:24 PM
General Sherman marching toward the sea says, "Hold my beer."  Harry S. Truman, on August 6th and 9th, 1945, says, "Let me show you how it's done, motherfuckers."

Imagine, 80 years after WWII still talking like this.

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« Reply #1808 on: Today at 02:28:18 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on Today at 02:24:50 PM
Imagine, 80 years after WWII still talking like this.



Does not appear much has changed over time in regards to actually winning a war....unfortunately.

"he did not regret the outcome" no shit.
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« Reply #1809 on: Today at 02:35:31 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on Today at 02:28:18 PM
Does not appear much has changed over time in regards to actually winning a war....unfortunately.

"he did not regret the outcome" no shit.

Actually, it did change: December 11, 1946. Under the leadership of the United States of America.
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« Reply #1810 on: Today at 02:40:01 PM »
Quote from: Reacher on Today at 02:35:31 PM
Actually, it did change: December 11, 1946. Under the leadership of the United States of America.

LOL. The creation of the UN? Fucking hilarious. Change is "UN Peacekeepers" raping the local populace they are supposed to protect? GTFO here with this shit. Get serious. You are just trolling now.
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« Reply #1811 on: Today at 02:43:46 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on Today at 02:40:01 PM
LOL. The creation of the UN? Fucking hilarious. Change is "UN Peacekeepers" raping the local populace they are supposed to protect? GTFO here with this shit. Get serious. You are just trolling now.

The creation of International Law. Under the leadership of rhe United States of America. You’re making it pretty obvious where your loyalties lie.
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