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TSJ suspended charged with rape

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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #450 on: January 19, 2024, 05:42:47 PM »
My Purdue neighbor just texted me the news. This is nuts.
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« Reply #451 on: January 19, 2024, 05:44:47 PM »
I stand corrected. Terrible legal result, great basketball result!
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #452 on: January 19, 2024, 05:48:55 PM »
Could see a way more emotionally charged team the rest of year
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #453 on: January 19, 2024, 06:07:55 PM »
Quote from: Miles Leonard on January 19, 2024, 03:51:02 PM
Get ready boys. We’re about to become the villains of college basketball. Opposing student sections are going to have a field day with this.

If he actually gets to play the rest of the year (I’ll believe it when I see it) think he and this group will feed off that and just punish mofos
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #454 on: January 19, 2024, 06:23:01 PM »
Please give us a National Championship 🏆 🙏🏼 that’s all I want before I die! 😂
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #455 on: January 19, 2024, 06:49:11 PM »
I want a title too, but I am not willing to sell out my values for it personally.  And this feels gross.  IANAL and IANAJ, but that ruling seems wild as fuck to me.

Among other things, the ruling says that not playing basketball hurts his NIL value (the NCAA probably doesn't like that much, since pay for play is still technically against the rules - and in theory, he is already under contract for his name/image/likeness whether he plays or not), that his status as a potential NBA draft pick is part of why they ruled that he is suffering material harm (i.e., a player who isn't an NBA prospect may not be granted the same rights - even citing his ranking falling on an NBA mock draft), and that he is being hurt in part because "many of these (remaining) games will be against other nationally ranked teams and will be on national television".

He is good at basketball, so it is a violation of his right to play basketball for him to be suspended because of a pending felony rape charge.

I don't want to hear any Illini fans make fun of Alabama for Brandon Miller playing ever again.  I like Shannon, I hope he is innocent and the charges are dropped and he has a long NBA career, but this feels dirty to me personally.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #456 on: January 19, 2024, 08:15:10 PM »
A jury found that the likely Republican candidate for President actually did what TJ is only accused of.

Yes, it was a civil trial. Also, it was sexual assault or battery, not digital rape, due to the definitions in jurisdictions.

Still, it is the same general act.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #457 on: January 19, 2024, 08:19:09 PM »
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #458 on: January 19, 2024, 08:22:03 PM »
Quote from: illiniray on January 19, 2024, 08:15:10 PM
A jury found that the likely Republican candidate for President actually did what TJ is only accused of.

Yes, it was a civil trial. Also, it was sexual assault or battery, not digital rape, due to the definitions in jurisdictions.

Still, it is the same general act.

And that's ... good?  fine?

In what way is that relevant, other than to say "this is fucked up how we normalize this sort of thing"?
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« Reply #459 on: January 19, 2024, 08:24:36 PM »
"Generally, under Illinois law, a plaintiff must present evidence in support of four factors before a court will issue a TRO or other form of injunction:  (1) the plaintiff possesses a clearly ascertainable right in need of protection, (2) there is a likelihood that the plaintiff will succeed on the merits, (3) the plaintiff will suffer irreparable harm if an injunction does not issue, and (4) the plaintiff has no adequate remedy at law.   A fifth factor frequently considered by trial courts involves balancing the equities or the relative hardships." -- Google it

The judge found all 5.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #460 on: January 19, 2024, 08:32:37 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 19, 2024, 06:49:11 PM
Among other things, the ruling says that not playing basketball hurts his NIL value (the NCAA probably doesn't like that much, since pay for play is still technically against the rules - and in theory, he is already under contract for his name/image/likeness whether he plays or not), that his status as a potential NBA draft pick is part of why they ruled that he is suffering material harm (i.e., a player who isn't an NBA prospect may not be granted the same rights - even citing his ranking falling on an NBA mock draft), and that he is being hurt in part because "many of these (remaining) games will be against other nationally ranked teams and will be on national television".
Yup. This is just harm, most of which is speculative and not irreparable. He has adequate remedies of law for much of the harm. And this sidesteps that he doesn't have a protected right to play college basketball in the first place.
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« Reply #461 on: January 19, 2024, 08:34:14 PM »
Quote from: spark mandrill on January 19, 2024, 08:22:03 PM
And that's ... good?  fine?

In what way is that relevant, other than to say "this is fucked up how we normalize this sort of thing"?

There is a good chance that a man of highly questionable character who actually digitally raped a woman might be the next President of the United States.

I think a young man with a spotless record, who is widely known to be a good person, that has been accused in questionable circumstances, can play basketball while the case is sorted out.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #462 on: January 19, 2024, 08:40:42 PM »
Wtf is wrong with you people bringing Trump into everything

Grow up and take it to the deuce
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #463 on: January 19, 2024, 08:48:15 PM »
Quote from: ILLove1997 on January 19, 2024, 08:40:42 PM
Wtf is wrong with you people bringing Trump into everything

Grow up and take it to the deuce

You grow up. I never mentioned the rapists name.

It is a coincidence that he did what our guy is accused of doing.
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Re: TSJ suspended charged with rape
« Reply #464 on: January 19, 2024, 08:48:25 PM »
Trying to get my head around this.
What if DGL gets pissed off in practice tomorrow and calls Frazier a mthrfcker and tells him to suck his dick.
UW suspends him from team for three games.
DGL sues on Monday to be reinstated and wants monetary damages.

Cites instances where UW regularly uses profanity towards athletes and that the suspension damages his present NIL opportunities and chances for a pro career here or overseas. Notes that players in top 125 rankings in HS typically have opportunities to play pro.

What happens then???

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