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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4620 on: February 04, 2024, 10:11:24 PM »
Quote from: ThePAMan on February 04, 2024, 06:34:54 PM
Glad to see on the game that the university is using drone and robots to help farmers since they don't want physical laborers coming over the border.

I’d love to see the mostly peaceful asylum seekers precisely apply critical pesticides/nutrients in 20x20” windows covering 120 feet wide swaths at 10 mph or hover 6’ above a sensitive crop and apply the nutrients/pesticides at a rate of 30 acres an hour like that technology does.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4621 on: February 04, 2024, 10:12:53 PM »
Quote from: No one on February 04, 2024, 09:17:04 PM
From the same article ....
"Mr. Biden has the legal authority to reinstate the border policies implemented by former President Donald Trump that he ended, since they were based on proclamations, regulations and international agreements."

But Biden sent out invitations, left the doors open and gave out prizes to anyone who would show up instead.

That should convince Nichi, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it doesn’t.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4622 on: February 04, 2024, 10:52:46 PM »
Quote from: Judge Judy on February 04, 2024, 02:31:24 PM
Probably from the CCP who encouraged them to come and plant them here for their benefits. Why invade a country through war when we welcome the takeover by simply walking across the border…

by benefits do  you mean a PhD from an American University and a high paying job in Silicon Valley
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4623 on: February 05, 2024, 12:29:02 AM »
Quote from: No one on February 04, 2024, 09:17:04 PM
From the same article ....

But Biden sent out invitations, left the doors open and gave out prizes to anyone who would show up instead.

That is not in the article. Those are words from right wing fake news sites.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4624 on: February 05, 2024, 12:32:08 AM »
Quote from: No one on February 04, 2024, 09:17:04 PM
From the same article ....
"Mr. Biden has the legal authority to reinstate the border policies implemented by former President Donald Trump that he ended, since they were based on proclamations, regulations and international agreements."

The rest of the story; which JJ will ignore



Washington — There's currently an intense debate about what legal authorities President Biden has at his disposal to deal with the humanitarian crisis at the U.S. southern border, where migrant apprehensions have reached record levels in recent years.

The debate escalated recently after Mr. Biden promised to "shut down" the U.S.-Mexico border if Congress passes an immigration compromise that his administration has been negotiating with a small bipartisan group of senators. While the agreement has not been officially released, sources directly familiar with the talks have told CBS News that it would give the executive branch the power to partially shut down asylum processing when illegal border crossings reach certain levels.


Mr. Biden's pledge to "shut down the border" was likely shorthand for clamping down on illegal crossings and asylum claims, since completely shutting down an international boundary would bring legal travel and trade to a halt — an unprecedented move that would hurt both the U.S. and Mexican economies.


Here are the facts about what Mr. Biden can do now legally at the border and what he can't do, at least without congressional intervention:

What authority does Biden currently have?
Migrants attempt to cross U.S.-Mexico border despite heightened security measures, in Ciudad Juárez on Feb. 1, 2024.
Migrants attempt to cross U.S.-Mexico border despite heightened security measures, in Ciudad Juárez on Feb. 1, 2024.
DAVID PEINADO/ANADOLU VIA GETTY IMAGES
Mr. Biden has the legal authority to reinstate the border policies implemented by former President Donald Trump that he ended, since they were based on proclamations, regulations and international agreements.

Those now-defunct Trump policies include agreements that allowed the U.S. to reroute asylum-seekers to third countries and the "Remain in Mexico" program, which required migrants to await their asylum hearings outside of the U.S. Federal law allows officials to return asylum-seekers to Mexico, but it does not require it, as decreed by the Supreme Court in 2022.

U.S. law also gives the president, through the attorney general and the secretary of homeland security, the power to place limits on asylum. And Mr. Biden already has.

After the Title 42 pandemic-related border restrictions ended last spring, the Biden administration enacted a regulation that presumes migrants are ineligible for asylum if they enter the U.S. without using any of the legal immigration pathways it created and have passed through a third country without seeking asylum. But the administration has not been able to implement the asylum restriction at scale because it does not have the necessary officers, detention facilities and money.

The president, however, does not currently have the legal authority to unilaterally suspend U.S. asylum law, which grants migrants on American soil the right to request humanitarian refuge, even when they cross into the country illegally.

Only Congress can change U.S. asylum law.

Did Trump try to "shut down" asylum claims at the border?

Yes, and his efforts were struck down in federal court.

Trump tried to single-handedly suspend asylum in between ports of entry along the southern border through a proclamation in 2018, using a law House Speaker Mike Johnson and other Republicans have urged Mr. Biden to invoke.

While the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to use this law — known as Section 212(f) — to enact restrictions and bans on legal immigration and travel, such as the infamous "travel bans," federal courts prevented the government from citing this authority to suspend asylum law. Trump's 2018 rule was ultimately declared unlawful.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4625 on: February 05, 2024, 05:48:01 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 05, 2024, 12:32:08 AM
The rest of the story; which JJ will ignore



Washington — There's currently an intense debate about what legal authorities President Biden has at his disposal to deal with the humanitarian crisis at the U.S. southern border, where migrant apprehensions have reached record levels in recent years.

The debate escalated recently after Mr. Biden promised to "shut down" the U.S.-Mexico border if Congress passes an immigration compromise that his administration has been negotiating with a small bipartisan group of senators. While the agreement has not been officially released, sources directly familiar with the talks have told CBS News that it would give the executive branch the power to partially shut down asylum processing when illegal border crossings reach certain levels.


Mr. Biden's pledge to "shut down the border" was likely shorthand for clamping down on illegal crossings and asylum claims, since completely shutting down an international boundary would bring legal travel and trade to a halt — an unprecedented move that would hurt both the U.S. and Mexican economies.


Here are the facts about what Mr. Biden can do now legally at the border and what he can't do, at least without congressional intervention:

What authority does Biden currently have?
Migrants attempt to cross U.S.-Mexico border despite heightened security measures, in Ciudad Juárez on Feb. 1, 2024.
Migrants attempt to cross U.S.-Mexico border despite heightened security measures, in Ciudad Juárez on Feb. 1, 2024.
DAVID PEINADO/ANADOLU VIA GETTY IMAGES
Mr. Biden has the legal authority to reinstate the border policies implemented by former President Donald Trump that he ended, since they were based on proclamations, regulations and international agreements.

Those now-defunct Trump policies include agreements that allowed the U.S. to reroute asylum-seekers to third countries and the "Remain in Mexico" program, which required migrants to await their asylum hearings outside of the U.S. Federal law allows officials to return asylum-seekers to Mexico, but it does not require it, as decreed by the Supreme Court in 2022.

U.S. law also gives the president, through the attorney general and the secretary of homeland security, the power to place limits on asylum. And Mr. Biden already has.

After the Title 42 pandemic-related border restrictions ended last spring, the Biden administration enacted a regulation that presumes migrants are ineligible for asylum if they enter the U.S. without using any of the legal immigration pathways it created and have passed through a third country without seeking asylum. But the administration has not been able to implement the asylum restriction at scale because it does not have the necessary officers, detention facilities and money.

The president, however, does not currently have the legal authority to unilaterally suspend U.S. asylum law, which grants migrants on American soil the right to request humanitarian refuge, even when they cross into the country illegally.

Only Congress can change U.S. asylum law.

Did Trump try to "shut down" asylum claims at the border?

Yes, and his efforts were struck down in federal court.

Trump tried to single-handedly suspend asylum in between ports of entry along the southern border through a proclamation in 2018, using a law House Speaker Mike Johnson and other Republicans have urged Mr. Biden to invoke.

While the Supreme Court allowed the Trump administration to use this law — known as Section 212(f) — to enact restrictions and bans on legal immigration and travel, such as the infamous "travel bans," federal courts prevented the government from citing this authority to suspend asylum law. Trump's 2018 rule was ultimately declared unlawful.
The Biden administration is letting migrants stream across the border in unprecedented and unsustainable numbers. Under the current Biden position, the illegal entrants won't be eligible for asylum and they won't have court cases for 7 +/- years. In 7 years the argument will continue to be that the migrants have been here for 7 years and we should welcome them with open arms.

The Biden administration created this problem and rather than admitting to and addressing the cause of the problem they want people to accept their solution to a problem they created.

You have continually maintained that these are all asylum seekers yet now point to an article saying the illegal entries between designated ports of entry are not eligible for asylum.
CBS is parroting what Biden said recently that he's done what he can do and that Congress must fix the problem that he has created.
He can fix the problem himself.
You're cherry picking what he can't do from the article rather than what he can do.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4626 on: February 05, 2024, 05:52:39 AM »
Quote from: illiniray on February 05, 2024, 12:29:02 AM
That is not in the article. Those are words from right wing fake news sites.
There are no quotation marks around that part. And I said it. Show me where it was said in any right wing fake news site.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4627 on: February 05, 2024, 05:59:18 AM »
Quote from: Custard on February 04, 2024, 10:12:53 PM
That should convince Nichi, but it wouldn’t surprise me if it doesn’t.
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Re: wtf is wrong with the right?
« Reply #4628 on: February 05, 2024, 08:11:13 AM »
Quote from: No one on February 05, 2024, 05:52:39 AM
There are no quotation marks around that part. And I said it. Show me where it was said in any right wing fake news site.

All those things you said have demonstrably happened. But “Fake News!”
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« Reply #4629 on: February 05, 2024, 08:25:37 AM »
My coworker in Ontario had a paperwork snafu of sorts and can’t enter the US right now to do his job until it’s ironed out. LOL
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« Reply #4630 on: February 05, 2024, 08:29:20 AM »
Quote from: Custard on February 05, 2024, 08:25:37 AM
My coworker in Ontario had a paperwork snafu of sorts and can’t enter the US right now to do his job until it’s ironed out. LOL
Try to enter Canada with a DUI. Lol
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« Reply #4631 on: February 05, 2024, 08:30:49 AM »
Quote from: No one on February 05, 2024, 08:29:20 AM
Try to enter Canada with a DUI. Lol

Oh I know. I had to get a TRP.
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« Reply #4632 on: February 05, 2024, 08:39:22 AM »
"They’ve been insisting, rather frantically, that the chaos we’re seeing on the border didn’t just begin on Jan. 20, the day Biden was inaugurated. I agree. It did not begin in January.

It began earlier as Biden was campaigning for the presidency.

Remember, Biden was desperate to win support of the hard left"

"It was Biden who called for the surge. And desperate migrants heard his call as a promise that his arms would be as wide open as our southern border. His wish came true.

Now Biden owns it. All of it."

"And come they did, surging. Some came wearing Biden T-shirts reading, “Biden, please let us in.”

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2021/03/24/column-biden-called-for-the-border-surge-and-now-he-owns-it/

I don't think that I would call the Trib one of those right wing fake news site. Lol
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« Reply #4633 on: February 05, 2024, 08:44:42 AM »
Quote from: Custard on February 05, 2024, 08:30:49 AM
Oh I know. I had to get a TRP.
I only know because I thought about taking a relative with a DUI into Canada for a fishing trip. We didn't go but I have gone with others.
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« Reply #4634 on: February 05, 2024, 01:30:39 PM »
Wow, that radical leftist John Kass agrees with the Free Beacon
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