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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 05:51:05 PM

Title: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 05:51:05 PM
A million times, yes. Fields could play better. Absolutely.

But how many players on the Bears would you call a top 7 player at their  position? I struggle to think of one. In fact, there are none. Maybe Jaylen Johnson. Maybe.

The truth of the matter is this team is still very much in transition. This is game 2 of the rebuild. We have a first time GM, first time HC, first time OC, young quarterback who needs good strong coaching. A barely past his rookie year 5th round LT. A rookie RT.

I didn’t hear him say it, but apparently Poles said not long ago this team is only 70% built. Unfortunately, he was probably all too accurate.

Hopefully we don’t embarrass ourselves against KC and can string together a solid 2nd half of the season the way Detroit did last year. We (I know I was) were on the kool-aid. Hopeful the FAs and rookies would have more of an impact, but that was probably not realistic.

If you want to give up on Fields, that’s your prerogative. I am not there yet (yes, I see his flaws).

BTW the Bengals are 0-2, and the Giants are 0-1 and having to stage a furious comeback against a franchise that is openly tanking. Its rarely as bad as it looks.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 06:06:01 PM
This is not Game 2 of the rebuild. The rebuild started last year. Players, like Fields, from last year's team are part of the rebuild. (You are not going to completely turnover the roster in 2 years are you?)

This team is as bad as it was last year. In fact, it may be worse. You have free agents that were brought in who are not making an iota of difference (looking at the linebackers).
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 06:07:41 PM
This is not Game 2 of the rebuild. The rebuild started last year.

That was the tear down. How many new starters are there? I’ll bet half the team.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 06:09:07 PM
What did Hamp and OB say about the loss, PAMan?

Olin Kreutz certainly wasn’t pointing the finger any one direction, but he did heavily imply that the pick 6 was Getsy’s fault (too predictable).
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 06:11:37 PM
This is not Game 2 of the rebuild. The rebuild started last year. Players, like Fields, from last year's team are part of the rebuild. (You are not going to completely turnover the roster in 2 years are you?)

This team is as bad as it was last year. In fact, it may be worse. You have free agents that were brought in who are not making an iota of difference (looking at the linebackers).

The LBs are good players, I’m not too worried about them long-term. Nate Davis didn’t play (thankfully?). Billings has been decent.

Not a FA but Moore is clearly a difference maker. Just needs more help around him.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 06:19:34 PM
What did Hamp and OB say about the loss, PAMan?

Olin Kreutz certainly wasn’t pointing the finger any one direction, but he did heavily imply that the pick 6 was Getsy’s fault (too predictable).

I was only half listening as I cleaned the kitchen up after my nacho buffet. Will have more focus on it when the podcast comes out and I listen on a treadmill.

Here is what I have heard: Not enough roll outs. Fields not a drop back QB. Stupid INTs. Run the fucking ball. Shitty QBs continue to outplay Fields. Getsy and Eberlose suck. The spread from whatever restaurant that brings them food during the game was good.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 06:22:24 PM
The LBs are good players, I’m not too worried about them long-term. Nate Davis didn’t play (thankfully?). Billings has been decent.

Not a FA but Moore is clearly a difference maker. Just needs more help around him.

What have the LBs done to make you believe they are playing well (which is different from being "good players")? This defense has been chewed up and spit out the past 2 weeks by Love and Mayfield.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 06:59:20 PM
I was only half listening as I cleaned the kitchen up after my nacho buffet. Will have more focus on it when the podcast comes out and I listen on a treadmill.

Here is what I have heard: Not enough roll outs. Fields not a drop back QB. Stupid INTs. Run the fucking ball. Shitty QBs continue to outplay Fields. Getsy and Eberlose suck. The spread from whatever restaurant that brings them food during the game was good.

Pretty sure I asked why no roll outs in the game thread. It’s pretty obvious that Getsy doesn’t know how to use his players. He’s about as vanilla as it gets. Throw on 1st. Run on 2nd and 10. Hope the line can hold on 3rd and long or throw a screen. He fucking sucks. Yes, Fields is missing too many reads, but God damn, let’s have some standards at OC. This guy isn’t helping anyone. Fucking over-promoted thanks to being Aaron Rodgers’ towel boy.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:00:30 PM
What have the LBs done to make you believe they are playing well (which is different from being "good players")? This defense has been chewed up and spit out the past 2 weeks by Love and Mayfield.

I’m didn’t say they are playing well. I said they’re good players.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:04:09 PM
Justin Fields 4 carries 3 yards. That’s a fireable offense IMO. Until you get other things working, you’ve got to incorporate what works. Inexcusable not to get Fields running.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:05:15 PM
Darnell Mooney 0 catches. Was he even targeted?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:10:29 PM
Guess Mooney left the game with an injury early 2nd half. Never heard that.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:15:53 PM
Edmonds and Edwards led the Bears in tackles and assists btw. Would like to see some big plays out of them though.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:19:55 PM
Jerry Hairston Jr did not like the call.

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Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 07:28:49 PM
I’m didn’t say they are playing well. I said they’re good players.

Don't good players play good?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 07:31:12 PM
Justin Fields 4 carries 3 yards. That’s a fireable offense IMO. Until you get other things working, you’ve got to incorporate what works. Inexcusable not to get Fields running.

Don't you think part of this is that teams are now ready to defend it after having an offseason to watch the film from last year? It is not as if they are worried about Fields' pocket passing.

They ran that one sweep today and it was snuffed.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:42:24 PM
Don't good players play good?

Every time?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:42:52 PM
They weren’t bad. They led the Bears in tackles. Did they dominate? No.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 07:46:20 PM
Don't you think part of this is that teams are now ready to defend it after having an offseason to watch the film from last year? It is not as if they are worried about Fields' pocket passing.

They ran that one sweep today and it was snuffed.

He’s legitimately one of the best running quarterbacks of all-time. They didn’t get better at defending it. The Bears stopped employing it (for the most part), and it’s hard to scramble when you’re letting guys come up the middle on screen passes.

Roll Justin out and give him the option to throw or run. Move the pocket. That’s what you do when you can’t block. You love the pocket. Justin is better IMO when he’s improvising. The Bears don’t do that at all. It looks like Nagy is still calling plays.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 08:13:23 PM
Every time?

They have been on the team for 2 games. Both games the D has not been good. When are they going to start playing well?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 08:47:41 PM
Lol
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 08:55:44 PM
Pretty sure I asked why no roll outs in the game thread. It’s pretty obvious that Getsy doesn’t know how to use his players. He’s about as vanilla as it gets. Throw on 1st. Run on 2nd and 10. Hope the line can hold on 3rd and long or throw a screen. He fucking sucks. Yes, Fields is missing too many reads, but God damn, let’s have some standards at OC. This guy isn’t helping anyone. Fucking over-promoted thanks to being Aaron Rodgers’ towel boy.

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Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 09:02:44 PM
Your reminder on how people felt about Tua in his 2nd year.

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Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 09:05:27 PM
https://www.miamiherald.com/sports/nfl/miami-dolphins/article257171422.html
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 17, 2023, 10:25:09 PM
This is pretty sad on your part Tempo. Fields isn't Tua. Sorry. Tua actually throws the balls to guys who are barely NFL open. Saw it all night tonight. Fields just holds onto the ball too long. If Tua had Fields arm, that would be something.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 11:28:36 PM
This is pretty sad on your part Tempo. Fields isn't Tua. Sorry. Tua actually throws the balls to guys who are barely NFL open. Saw it all night tonight. Fields just holds onto the ball too long. If Tua had Fields arm, that would be something.

The PAMan will NEVER get it. NEVER. He literally cannot remember when people thought Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, and Tua sucked. Because…that was so many years ago?

It was literally barely more than a year and a half ago Eagles fans were excited Gardner Minshew was taking over for Hurts.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 11:39:18 PM
This is after 27 starts, about identical to Fields.

“I CaNt rEmbEr BaCk tHaT fAr.”

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Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 17, 2023, 11:46:08 PM
Season 2

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Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 07:27:03 AM
What exactly have you seen this year from Fields to make you make these laughable comparisons? He still holds onto the ball far too long. He has not appeared to have progressed one iota so far.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 07:27:45 AM
You are making a mockery of the Bears Realism Thread.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 18, 2023, 07:40:55 AM
Obviously the purpose of the Bears realism thread is to heap blame on the staff and deflect blame away from Fields.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: frankiew on September 18, 2023, 08:21:12 AM
Tempo doesn't know football

Has he ever broken down game film?

I HAVE!


Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 08:25:27 AM
Obviously the purpose of the Bears realism thread is to heap blame on the staff and deflect blame away from Fields.

Yep.

Of course while covering himself by maintaining Fields is not a finished product and shares in the blame.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2023, 08:42:35 AM
The PAMan will NEVER get it. NEVER. He literally cannot remember when people thought Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, and Tua sucked. Because…that was so many years ago?

It was literally barely more than a year and a half ago Eagles fans were excited Gardner Minshew was taking over for Hurts.

They threw the ball.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 18, 2023, 08:52:42 AM
Yep.

Of course while covering himself by maintaining Fields is not a finished product and shares in the blame.

Which isn’t transparent at all!!!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 08:59:02 AM
A lot of brainpower at work in this thread.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 09:02:55 AM
For the milliontieth time, Fields needs to help his own cause and play better.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 09:24:35 AM
Same guy who had the video breakdown so many watched last week.

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Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 09:29:09 AM
Eek. IMO DJ is a legit #1 though not high end. Would be amazeballs if he were your 2. I agree with the rest. Kmet has looked lost at times. He’s a capable receiver but not better than average I don’t think.

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Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 11:57:44 AM
Eek. IMO DJ is a legit #1 though not high end. Would be amazeballs if he were your 2. I agree with the rest. Kmet has looked lost at times. He’s a capable receiver but not better than average I don’t think.

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If you listen to Michael Lombardi enough, you will hear him say that there are only a handful of true "WR1" types, think Tyreek Hill, i.e., those WRs that can take over games.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 11:59:43 AM
A lot of brainpower at work in this thread.

This is the Bears REALISM Thread not the Bears FANTASY Thread.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 12:03:44 PM
If you listen to Michael Lombardi enough, you will hear him say that there are only a handful of true "WR1" types, think Tyreek Hill, i.e., those WRs that can take over games.

I’ll buy that. Maybe 5-6 of those guys. I don’t think DJ is to that level. But he’s very very good.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 18, 2023, 12:04:26 PM
Here is the TL;DR version for those of you who don’t want to wade through yet another superfluous Bears thread:

Tempo has (finally) divined that the organization sucks and isn’t putting Fields in a position to win, yet Custard gets LOL’d by Tempo for pointing this out year after year.

Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 01:00:05 PM
Few things are as easy as selling short on the Bears and Illini.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 18, 2023, 01:03:05 PM
In the last 2.5 years the Illini have won the Big Ten in basketball twice, had a 1 seed in the tourney, and played in a January bowl game.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 01:07:01 PM
In the last 2.5 years the Illini have won the Big Ten in basketball twice, had a 1 seed in the tourney, and played in a January bowl game.

PAMan?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 01:07:34 PM
So the Bears will NEVER be good again, is that what you’re saying?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 01:09:06 PM
PAMan?

Definitely accurate, though omitting maybe the "rest of the story." Good day!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 01:09:23 PM
Wait? They won the conference twice? I’m pretty sure that’s false.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 01:11:47 PM
Clearly he’s counting the B1G Tournament as “winning the conference.” Bit of a stretch.

What did they do with the conference title and 1 seed? Oh yeah, they face-planted.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 01:13:01 PM
The Bears won the division in 2018 with a historically good defense. That’s not ancient history. And what did they do? Just like the Illini always do, they face-planted.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: frankiew on September 18, 2023, 01:14:44 PM
In the last 2.5 years the Illini have won the Big Ten in basketball twice, had a 1 seed in the tourney, and played in a January bowl game.

We also got ran out of the gym by Loyola
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 01:16:40 PM
We also got ran out of the gym by Loyola

leAgUe cHaMPs
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 01:24:48 PM
Illinois has one decent football season in 14 years and Custard is jerking up the man sauce.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 01:51:34 PM
Your transition is complete. Welcome to The Dark Side, Tempo and Jasn....[engages in evil laugh while rubbing hands in an evil manner].
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 18, 2023, 02:09:51 PM
The Bears won the division in 2018 with Nagy at the helm. That’s not ancient history. And what did they do? Just like the Illini always do, they face-planted.
Fixed it.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 02:15:03 PM
Yet Tempo tells us there are good players on the D!

Per The Bright One:

Baker cooks
The Bucs’ Baker Mayfield, the 2018 No. 1 overall pick-turned-journeyman quarterback, had 317 passing yards and a 114.5 passer rating Sunday. The Bears’ defense allowed a 123.2 passer rating to the Packers’ Jordan Love in Week 1. Dating to last year, the Bears have allowed a passer rating of 114 or higher the last four games. Five games ago, the Bills’ Josh Allen had a 71.3 rating in a game at Soldier Field with a minus-12 windchill.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 03:29:18 PM
Oh, noz! Matt Spiegel is “out” on Justin Fields, and Danny Parkins is trending towards out. Gonna have to change my opinion now…

Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 04:27:43 PM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/18/23879510/justin-fields-stats-interceptions-fumbles-regardless-of-bears-flaws-turnovers-land-on-qb-shoulders

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Fields now has as many career pick-sixes (four) as Aaron Rodgers has in 19 seasons. His decision-making is a significant piece of the offensive struggles.

The Bears have surrounded quarterback Justin Fields with an abundance of problems in his first three seasons. There’s no arguing against that. Whether it’s been the coaching, the scheme, the offensive line or the wide receivers, it’s never been quite right.

But he’s still the one with the ball in his hands — not Matt Nagy, Luke Getsy or whoever else has had a hand in the various hindrances he’s faced since the Bears drafted him. Fields makes the final call on where the ball goes and must show awareness and good judgment regardless of anything else going on around him.

The ongoing turnover trouble is squarely Fields’ responsibility, and questions about his decision-making loom largely as the Bears weigh whether to build their future around him.

Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 04:32:53 PM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/18/23879439/bears-offense-try-figure-out-works-for-us-matt-eberflus-justin-fields-darnell-mooney-screen-spacing

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Eberflus said the screen was one of “several plays” the Bears could have called in the shadow of their own goalpost, but was fine with the fact they did.

“It was there,” he said.

No it wasn’t. Bucs linebacker Lavonte David said “everyone knew” the screen was coming.

***

With 3:12 left in the first half, the Bears went no-huddle, sending Trent Taylor in motion and into the right flank and running back Roschon Johnson up the right seam, where he was open. DJ Moore ran an out route to the left sideline and turned his palms up when the ball wasn’t thrown his way.

Fields looked downfield for what seemed like forever, and took a sack. Eberflus said Bears receivers weren’t spaced out enough.

“It’s designed to really spread out the field,” he said. “We got to do a better job with our spacing there — you know, with our receiver spacing. There was a little bit of an issue there with the spacing part of it, and we’ve got to do a better job executing there.”

It happened again later. On third-and-10 with 12:24 left in the game, Moore and tight end Cole Kmet both ran the same stick route just beyond the first-down marker. Fields fired toward either Kmet or Moore — it was hard to tell because Kmet was directly between Fields and his receiver — for an incomplete pass.

Mooney said spacing was something receivers need to talk through in meetings, particularly when it comes to which hash mark the ball is spotted on. On the third-down play, the ball was between the two hashes.

“Usually the ball is always on the hash, but the ball was kind of in the middle of the field,” he said. “So we kind of have to figure out the details on that.”
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 05:23:57 PM
https://twitter.com/ProFootballPSI/status/1703751409936605215?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1703751409936605215%7Ctwgr%5Ed14587492eba4fc1ca2c5029df27e9f3cc897a63%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagofanatics.com%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ff%3D72t%3D127028start%3D2460

That is devastating to Tempo's world of Fields's excuses!

Maybe there is a good tOSU QB out there!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 06:36:15 PM
Here’s JT O’Sullivan’s breakdown. I’m only 5 minutes in, no idea what’s on it. Figured I’d share before watching so as not to appear biased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDSwzJwiXj8
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 06:41:31 PM
That is devastating to Tempo's world of Fields's excuses!

Maybe there is a good tOSU QB out there!

He gets to throw the ball more in two games than Fields gets to in a month. Also, garbage time against crap team like Indy.

But I commend Houston for bringing him along the right way. Rip it, and we’ll live with it.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 08:02:35 PM
He gets to throw the ball more in two games than Fields gets to in a month. Also, garbage time against crap team like Indy.

But I commend Houston for bringing him along the right way. Rip it, and we’ll live with it.

Just sad. Tempo will NEVER get it. NEVER. He literally cannot remember that Fields holds onto the ball and takes sacks when people like Jalen Hurts, Josh Allen, and Tua stopped doing it. Because…that was just over the past 2 years?

It was literally barely more than a year ago when the Bears tried running a Big Boy Passing Offense and his guy could not execute it one iota.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 18, 2023, 08:04:03 PM
He gets to throw the ball more in two games than Fields gets to in a month. Also, garbage time against crap team like Indy.

But I commend Houston for bringing him along the right way. Rip it, and we’ll live with it.

Fields has had opportunities in garbage time and still couldn't come close to 300 yards. Forget that even, he's only cracked the 250 yard mark three times in 27 career starts. Not very franchise QB like if you ask me.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 08:12:38 PM
Fields has had opportunities in garbage time and still couldn't come close to 300 yards. Forget that even, he's only cracked the 250 yard mark three times in 27 career starts. Not very franchise QB like if you ask me.

In two career starts Stroud has thrown the ball 44 and 47 times. Fields got to throw the ball last year 25 or more times 3x, never eclipsing 30. Fields has never had a 40 attempt game.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 08:18:23 PM
It literally took Fields until his 6th game to get to 91 passes last year. Doesn’t sound like quarterback development if you ask me…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2023, 08:45:08 PM
It literally took Fields until his 6th game to get to 91 passes last year. Doesn’t sound like quarterback development if you ask me…

Wait, you were literally arguing earlier that he SHOULDN’T be throwing it that much and especially after yesterdays game…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2023, 08:56:57 PM
This is about as real as it’s gets, so I figured I’d throw it in the thread…

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Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 09:02:22 PM
Lol
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 18, 2023, 09:28:40 PM
I don’t know what’s funny…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 09:47:05 PM
In two career starts Stroud has thrown the ball 44 and 47 times. Fields got to throw the ball last year 25 or more times 3x, never eclipsing 30. Fields has never had a 40 attempt game.

Did you watch the 1 5 hour video? They won't let him throw 44x because he fucking sucks ass. Seriously. His footwork is terrible. His reads are terrible. What the fuck was he doing this offseason besides go to Bulls games?

Forgot to add that he throws a bunch of ducks as well. He fucking blows.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 09:47:39 PM
It literally took Fields until his 6th game to get to 91 passes last year. Doesn’t sound like quarterback development if you ask me…

Because he sucks.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 18, 2023, 09:51:09 PM
I don’t know what’s funny…

Tempo. Wrong about Fields. Wrong about Eberlose. Wrong about Poles. Wrong about Arlington Heights.

Tempo: Wrong for America.
Don't vote for Tempo.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 18, 2023, 11:45:45 PM
Tempo. Wrong about Fields. Wrong about Eberlose. Wrong about Poles. Wrong about Arlington Heights.

Tempo: Wrong for America.
Don't vote for Tempo.

This is like calling the 2024 election today
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 19, 2023, 06:32:51 AM
This is like calling the 2024 election today

In this election, you are George McGovern and losing in a landslide.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 08:33:19 AM
In this election, you are George McGovern and losing in a landslide.

Okurrr!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 01:55:45 PM
A nice dose of realism here.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T1fvS2r2/IMG-4937.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JKYfSKx)
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 01:58:17 PM
This is where there (might) be a grain of truth to Custard’s beliefs. Are they skimping, or just bad at talent evaluation. Probably both. 

(https://i.postimg.cc/d09Mzk97/IMG-4938.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/xkqFmdhY)
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 01:59:52 PM
To be fair, a lot of good OCs are not experienced. If you have a very experienced OC, good chance you have a mediocre coach (looking at you Ron Turner), so double edged sword.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 19, 2023, 02:01:34 PM
A nice dose of realism here.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T1fvS2r2/IMG-4937.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/8JKYfSKx)

Here is some realism: That douche is another Twitter Fucking Moron. Fields SUCKS ASS. Bad mechanics. Bad decision making. Bad throws. Bad.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 02:04:23 PM
Here is some realism: That douche is another Twitter Fucking Moron. Fields SUCKS ASS. Bad mechanics. Bad decision making. Bad throws. Bad.

I wish Justin Fields had your confidence…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 19, 2023, 02:05:24 PM
I wish Justin Fields had your confidence…

I do too. Because he really, really sucks and is not seeing open guys.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 02:06:30 PM
I do too. Because he really, really sucks and is not seeing open guys.

And he would be SUPREMELY confident.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 19, 2023, 02:09:39 PM
And he would be SUPREMELY confident.

He is apparently supremely confident that he does not need to read the backside or deep ins.

Have you gotten to the part of the video where O'Sullivan is predicting issues with Moore (since Moore is clapping for the ball because he is wide open and Your Favorite Player refuses to read the field)?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 03:32:45 PM
Reasonable criticisms for the most part. Poles’ grade however is still an I for incomplete.

https://beargoggleson.com/posts/signs-chicago-bears-gm-ryan-poles-over-his-head/3
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 19, 2023, 04:37:33 PM
Fields needs to watch tape of Tua. Tua is light years ahead of Fields in WAY less time on the field.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 19, 2023, 05:24:40 PM
I’d be ok with this…

https://x.com/nestradaumus1/status/1704240449135743225?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

BUT!

You don’t extend Fields this off-season, just pick up his 5th year option and let him play on it, and if Bienemy wants to draft another QB as well in this class you do it. Let him sit behind Fields for that one year. Of course this is all depending how the rest of this year goes.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 05:51:09 PM
Fields needs to watch tape of Tua. Tua is light years ahead of Fields in WAY less time on the field.

Tua has had 8 or 9 more starts than Justin. And everyone thought Tua was garbage after year 2 btw.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 05:52:44 PM
I’d be ok with this…

https://x.com/nestradaumus1/status/1704240449135743225?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

BUT!

You don’t extend Fields this off-season, just pick up his 5th year option and let him play on it, and if Bienemy wants to draft another QB as well in this class you do it. Let him sit behind Fields for that one year. Of course this is all depending how the rest of this year goes.

Fuck that.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 05:53:37 PM
Or at the very least I need to see more from Bienemy. I’m not sold yet.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 19, 2023, 06:08:46 PM
I sure as fuck am not giving Fields a new deal after this year with what the market is. I definitely need to see WAY more this season to do that. I’d pick up his option but nothing else unless he turns it around.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 06:12:28 PM
I sure as fuck am not giving Fields a new deal after this year with what the market is. I definitely need to see WAY more this season to do that. I’d pick up his option but nothing else unless he turns it around.

Who on earth is talking about giving Fields a new deal anytime soon?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 19, 2023, 06:35:52 PM
Who is this cat predicting Eberlose is done and Bienemy should replace him because of Fields?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 19, 2023, 06:48:36 PM
Who is this cat predicting Eberlose is done and Bienemy should replace him because of Fields?

I don’t know just saw it and thought it interesting…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 19, 2023, 09:43:50 PM
PAMan should like this one.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT86Jdnn3/
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 19, 2023, 10:55:07 PM
PAMan should like this one.

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT86Jdnn3/

Not clicking and supporting the Chinese Communist Party's oppressive tactics.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 03:04:01 PM
Crazy day at Halas Hall. Halas Hall and Alan Williams’ home were RAIDED this morning. Braxton Jones goes on IR out of nowhere, and Justin Fields calls reporters to his locker to clarify comments he made about coaching. Drama drama drama.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 03:05:07 PM
I get that internet algorithms know what interest me, but I’ve never seen this.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ncLGVFbR/IMG-4954.png) (https://postimg.cc/K4dMJyYB)
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 03:07:22 PM
No specific info on Alan Williams, but apparently the situation is “shocking.”
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 20, 2023, 03:10:16 PM
Crazy day at Halas Hall. Halas Hall and Alan Williams’ home were RAIDED this morning. Braxton Jones goes on IR out of nowhere, and Justin Fields calls reporters to his locker to clarify comments he made about coaching. Drama drama drama.

local media hand rubbing intensifies
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 03:16:21 PM
Alan Williams has resigned according to Rappaport. Bears statement forthcoming.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 20, 2023, 03:19:02 PM
I get that internet algorithms know what interest me, but I’ve never seen this.

(https://i.postimg.cc/ncLGVFbR/IMG-4954.png) (https://postimg.cc/K4dMJyYB)

Do you believe in curses too?!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 03:48:26 PM
Are we about to hear about drug kingpin Alan Williams?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 03:56:33 PM
Bears release Nathan Peterman. WTF is going on at Halas Hall today?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 03:58:17 PM
Saw something about child porn regarding Williams. Obviously that’s speculation. Sounds plausible.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 20, 2023, 04:07:57 PM
🤯 fucking chaos from a shitty organization!!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 20, 2023, 04:10:26 PM
Bears release Nathan Peterman. WTF is going on at Halas Hall today?

Tempo are you really Jarrett Payton…?! 🤔

https://x.com/paytonsun/status/1704598248604783031?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Jobu on September 20, 2023, 04:14:07 PM
Tempo are you really Jarrett Payton…?! 🤔

https://x.com/paytonsun/status/1704598248604783031?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Oh, you really think Tempo has ever had an original thought?

lol
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 04:28:16 PM
Tempo are you really Jarrett Payton…?! 

https://x.com/paytonsun/status/1704598248604783031?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Am I Jarret Payton? No, I don’t think so. Wish I had his money.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 04:29:09 PM
Oh, you really think Tempo has ever had an original thought?

lol

Eat shit dipwad.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 20, 2023, 04:29:48 PM
This is eclipsing Trestman levels of dumpster fire.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Jobu on September 20, 2023, 04:30:21 PM
Eat shit dipwad.

I stand corrected. Dipwad is definitely original.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Jobu on September 20, 2023, 04:30:51 PM
This is eclipsing Trestman levels of dumpster fire.

Sure looking that way.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 04:33:29 PM
So the fact that I agree that what’s going on today means “I’m not capable of an ordinal thought?” I can’t agree with Bernstein, Parkins, Holmes, anyone at The Score, JT O’Sullivan, Tim Jenkins, anyone in sports media. Jarret Payton. Who am I allowed to agree with? I’m running out of people I can listen to and agree with.

It’s a fucking crazy day at Halas Hall. Is that some “hot take” I got from Jarret Payton? GMAFB. You are so juvenile.

Why would they cut Peterman? If Fields gets hurt you’ve got one quarterback. An UFA rookie. That makes no sense.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 04:35:19 PM
Sure looking that way.

The Williams situation is obviously a key driver here. Not much to hang on the Bears for there. Doubt they were responsible in any way for Alan Williams actions.

Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 04:35:46 PM
I stand corrected. Dipwad is definitely original.

Douchebag isn’t, but it fits.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 04:38:03 PM
Apparently the Bears are denying Halas Hall was raided.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 04:42:13 PM
Warren or Poles needs to speak ASAP. Preferably both.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 20, 2023, 04:52:31 PM
Apparently the Bears are denying Halas Hall was raided.

Williams’ house was. Peanut Tillman informed the Bears it was…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 20, 2023, 04:55:25 PM
If Fields gets hurt you’ve got one quarterback. An UFA rookie. That makes no sense.

See Purdy/Lance…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 04:59:14 PM
See Purdy/Lance…

Yeah, who wants Peterman playing anyway? Let Bagent play. He actually cannot be any worse than the Mr. I Need to Hold 2 Press Conferences in 1 Day Since I Fucked Up the 1st 1.

Yeah, all those puff pieces Tempo posted this summer were lies.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 05:00:20 PM
Saw something about child porn regarding Williams. Obviously that’s speculation. Sounds plausible.

We definitely should not give him the benefit of any doubt at this point, right?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 05:14:08 PM
Williams’ house was. Peanut Tillman informed the Bears it was…

Jarret Payton, I mean I, say that’s false.

https://x.com/paytonsun/status/1704605015053082682?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 05:14:47 PM
We definitely should not give him the benefit of any doubt at this point, right?

I have no clue what to think. I haven’t come to any conclusions yet.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 20, 2023, 05:16:41 PM
Yeah, who wants Peterman playing anyway? Let Bagent play. He actually cannot be any worse than the Mr. I Need to Hold 2 Press Conferences in 1 Day Since I Fucked Up the 1st 1.

Yeah, all those puff pieces Tempo posted this summer were lies.

Bears fans know all too well where this is headed. Rinse and repeat the same depressing cycle since the 1940s.

Bagent, your table will be ready soon.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 05:27:11 PM
Bears fans know all too well where this is headed. Rinse and repeat the same depressing cycle since the 1940s.

Bagent, your table will be ready soon.

Lol
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 05:28:49 PM
Yeah, who wants Peterman playing anyway? Let Bagent play. He actually cannot be any worse than the Mr. I Need to Hold 2 Press Conferences in 1 Day Since I Fucked Up the 1st 1.

Yeah, all those puff pieces Tempo posted this summer were lies.

It’s not about who plays after Fields. It’s about having ONE quaterback in your organization if Fields gets hurt. An UFA rookie. That can’t be your only QB.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 05:30:06 PM
See Purdy/Lance…

They have a veteran Sam Darnold. He’s not great, but at least he’s somebody.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 05:31:08 PM
And Purdy had already shown that he can play at an NFL level.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 05:51:19 PM
Bears fans know all too well where this is headed. Rinse and repeat the same depressing cycle since the 1940s.

Bagent, your table will be ready soon.

Everyone but Tempo and The Twitter Fields Fan Club types all know it is coming. The only question is whether it occurs before or after D J Moore goes after Fields on the sidelines for not throwing him the ball when he is wide open.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 05:53:32 PM
It’s not about who plays after Fields. It’s about having ONE quaterback in your organization if Fields gets hurt. An UFA rookie. That can’t be your only QB.

Like Fields is an NFL QB?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 05:54:38 PM
I have no clue what to think. I haven’t come to any conclusions yet.

No way.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 05:59:32 PM
No way.

Way?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 06:23:47 PM
Way?

No way.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 06:44:59 PM
I don’t pretend to have the slightest clue what Alan Williams did or didn’t do.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 09:24:09 PM
I think I have an idea of what he did.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 09:25:15 PM
Remarkably little chatter here about the crazy crazy day at Halas Hall. Happy 38th birthday Ryan Poles! Lol
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 09:28:58 PM
I think I have an idea of what he did.

What do you believe he did?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 20, 2023, 09:29:32 PM
What do you believe he did?

You know.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 20, 2023, 09:32:40 PM
You know.

Writing a "research paper" like Pete Townsend?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 21, 2023, 01:06:25 AM
My only takeaway from today’s posts is that I’m more than a little surprised that Tempo has an iPhone.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 01:21:59 AM
My only takeaway from today’s posts is that I’m more than a little surprised that Tempo has an iPhone.

Sweet burn.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 01:28:56 AM
The reason cutting Peterman makes no sense is now there is no veteran presence past Fields in the QB room now. Which hurts Fields and the QB room. Sure, Nathan Peterman can’t play, but he’s consistently had a job in the NFL for 7 years, so apparently he has SOME value according to coaches. Fields needs a veteran presence, and Bagent needs that even more, especially if Fields were to miss significant time.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 21, 2023, 01:35:09 AM
I’m enjoying a cold one out front in the much needed rain. Channeling my inner Nichi and reflecting on the day.

(https://i.ibb.co/99q0Wm5/IMG-2037.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kj9gWcv)
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 02:13:22 AM
I’m enjoying a cold one out front in the much needed rain. Channeling my inner Nichi and reflecting on the day.

(https://i.ibb.co/99q0Wm5/IMG-2037.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Kj9gWcv)

I’m channeling my inner Rex Ryan. Those are some nice feet. Where do you live now?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 10:42:47 AM
I had preseason dreams of the Bears shipping Claypool and a draft pick to Tampa for Mike Evans. With their financial situation, I could have seen it. Wish that had happened.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 21, 2023, 10:54:23 AM
Tempo can rest easy that veteran Peterman is back on the roster. The Bear QB Room is solid again
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 10:58:16 AM
That makes the move even weirder.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Jobu on September 21, 2023, 11:00:42 AM
That makes the move even weirder.

Probably has something to do with wanting to get out of paying that last contract. Like if a guarantee was about to kick in or something.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 11:01:52 AM
I guess the McCaskeys are still cheapskates then…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 21, 2023, 01:24:16 PM
The ex-punter who wears tank tops on ESPN claimed his sources said Williams' house was raided by The F.B.I.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 01:32:52 PM
The ex-punter who wears tank tops on ESPN claimed his sources said Williams' house was raided by The F.B.I.

I think this was already commonly known/accepted. 
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 01:44:34 PM
I feel like Kevin Warren probably should have spoken, too.

https://x.com/barroomnetwork/status/1704895487554314460?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 21, 2023, 02:37:33 PM
At this point I just can't fathom how anyone would devote any time or brain cells towards what the Bears are doing these days... they picked the wrong QB back in 2017 and have been paying the toll since
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 21, 2023, 02:44:52 PM
I think this was already commonly known/accepted.

I've seen reports claiming that Williams' lawyer denied it.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 02:47:27 PM
I've seen reports claiming that Williams' lawyer denied it.

I'm sure he's denying a lot of things. Something of magnitude is going on here. Otherwise we'd know what it is (exactly) already. The fact that the Bears didn't "wish Alan Williams well" or thank him says quite a bit.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 03:33:34 PM
Reasonably happy with the Bears’ response to yesterday. I think it’s a bit early to be running out of the building yelling “fire!” Ultimately, the next 2-3 weeks will likely  tell us a lot about the direction they are headed. Sure would help if they can stem the injuries.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 03:34:06 PM
Kind of weird to hear that Flus has not addressed the team about Alan Williams at all.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 03:42:32 PM
https://x.com/chisportupdates/status/1704932430098878653?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 03:49:45 PM
So Peterman was cut because the Bears were attempting to poach another teams’ practice squad for a LT. Apparently that attempt failed.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 21, 2023, 05:09:26 PM
Jesus
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 05:25:37 PM
Jesus

A lot of Jewish holiday stuff going on, show some sensitivity.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 21, 2023, 06:51:56 PM
What the Jews got against Jesus?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 21, 2023, 07:27:20 PM
What the Jews got against Jesus?

They killed him! Remember?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 21, 2023, 07:30:12 PM
And now he gets all the love. So unfair.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Custard on September 21, 2023, 07:30:23 PM
They killed him! Remember?

Is that why Borat is so mad at them?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 21, 2023, 08:12:23 PM
Is that why Borat is so mad at them?

Definitely.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 22, 2023, 04:45:07 PM
Could live to regret this: bUt We gOt a dRaFt PiCk fEr a GUy wE DiDnt wAnt.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDVYmk9R/IMG-4967.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1BksnBP)
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 22, 2023, 09:53:06 PM
Could live to regret this: bUt We gOt a dRaFt PiCk fEr a GUy wE DiDnt wAnt.

(https://i.postimg.cc/sDVYmk9R/IMG-4967.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/F1BksnBP)

Yes we are all aware the mckaskeys don't like their black men to be flamboyant
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 23, 2023, 05:58:12 AM
Who are these "we" people ?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 23, 2023, 10:35:07 AM
Yes we are all aware the mckaskeys don't like their black men to be flamboyant

Flamboyant? Deion is flamboyant. Carter was controversial. I’d have still probably taken him at 9. And I certainly wouldn’t have given him away for what amounts to a 5th round pick.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 23, 2023, 10:35:29 AM
Who are these "we" people ?

Think real hard.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 23, 2023, 10:57:58 AM
Flamboyant? Deion is flamboyant. Carter was controversial. I’d have still probably taken him at 9. And I certainly wouldn’t have given him away for what amounts to a 5th round pick.

perhaps flamboyant wasn't the right word...

well that's why they didn't take Mahomes at least

went for the nice polish boy that drives a camry instead
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 23, 2023, 10:59:56 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/another_bears_star_seems_unsatisfied_with_coaching/s1_13132_39288383
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 23, 2023, 11:01:02 AM
perhaps flamboyant wasn't the right word...

well that's why they didn't take Mahomes at least

went for the nice polish boy that drives a camry instead

I wouldn’t make the claim that racism was behind that pick, because that’s a big accusation without any way to prove it; but I often wonder if it played a role (and believe it may have).
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 23, 2023, 11:14:45 AM
Weird, look what just hit my Google feed: someone with a Sun-Times subscription tell us what it says. PAMan?

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/23/23881339/bears-chiefs-justin-fields-patrick-mahomes-exec-josh-lucas-weighs-in-player-personnel-director-2017
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 23, 2023, 01:18:41 PM
Weird, look what just hit my Google feed: someone with a Sun-Times subscription tell us what it says. PAMan?

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/9/23/23881339/bears-chiefs-justin-fields-patrick-mahomes-exec-josh-lucas-weighs-in-player-personnel-director-2017

just use the 12ft ladder

Six-and-a-half years ago, the Bears’ top decision-makers met Patrick Mahomes at a high-end Lubbock, Texas, Mexican restaurant. They’d become enamored with the Texas Tech quarterback during the pre-draft process, and general manager Ryan Pace, player personnel director Josh Lucas, head coach John Fox, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains and quarterbacks coach Dave Ragone wanted to spend time with him.

“He has a nervous energy, so you kinda question, ‘How composed is this kid?’” Lucas said. “‘You’re about to hand off a franchise to him in the city of Chicago.’”

They grew to like Mahomes’ energy. As the meal stretched on, he told them about the Texas Tech baseball team and gave them a scouting report on their basketball program. It was March Madness, and Mahomes broke down different college point guards.

The Bears left convinced that Mahomes was one of the top two quarterbacks on their draft board, alongside North Carolina’s Mitch Trubisky. Only one person inside Halas Hall had Clemson star Deshaun Watson rated as a first-round pick — and that coach, Lucas said, wasn’t particularly passionate about it.

“The focus from the end of spring was on Mitch and Patrick,” Lucas said.

The Bears chose Trubisky.

Mahomes himself didn’t believe the Bears would take a quarterback — but said during Super Bowl week in February that his camp was told he was atop Pace’s list of players at the position.

That wasn’t the case, Lucas said. Rather, they were trying to figure out if they’d take Mahomes third overall if the Browns decided to make Trubisky the No. 1 overall pick. The 49ers would have, in that scenario, taken Texas A&M edge rusher Myles Garrett second.

The Browns wound up drafting Garrett first, and the Bears traded up one spot to draft Trubisky. They liked the North Carolina quarterback so much that they didn’t want to risk someone jumping ahead of them.

The Chiefs took Mahomes 10th.

Lucas was amazed by Mahomes’ wow moments in college but wasn’t sure how they’d work in the NFL. Previous Red Raiders quarterbacks who thrived in the Air Raid system —including Kliff Kingsbury, the head coach at the time — hadn’t been able to make the leap.

“Your jaw hits the floor when you see (Mahomes) make some of these plays,” Lucas said. “But is that realistic? That’s where I really missed. …I didn’t think the things he did off script would translate to consistent playmaking ability on our level. And he proved me wrong.”

Mahomes is the best player in the NFL, and the Bears are still looking for a quarterback.

When those two teams converge Sunday at Arrowhead Stadium, Lucas will have a unique point-of-view, even from his couch. He was in the Bears’ draft room when they passed on Mahomes, and in 2021 when they traded up to draft Justin Fields.

Lucas was fired alongside Pace’s staff after the 2021 season. He’s stayed on the North Shore and in recent months has begun working as a television and radio analyst.

In Fields, he sees a quarterback who, with the right surroundings, can still stand out. Lucas doesn’t see a quarterback who can’t read the field; rather, it’s someone who doesn’t fire the ball after trusting his eyes. His footwork and delivery look different every time, Lucas said.

“He doesn’t look confident,” he said. “He’s not creating plays. He’s trying to do something he’s not comfortable doing rather than just being an innate, instinctive play-maker. ..

“It’s going to take time. The thing you need to do is build his confidence.”

Most inside Halas Halas considered Fields the second-best quarterback in his draft class, behind only Trevor Lawrence. Lucas said the team’s S2 Cognition scores — which test nine cognitive functions — on Fields were high. He was an introvert, but his coaches and teammates loved him. Football mattered to him.

The Bears knew that superior blockers and receivers at Ohio State allowed Fields to be deliberate in his decision-making, and that he’d have to speed up as a pro. They thought he’d benefit from playing behind Andy Dalton as a rookie.

“With Justin we knew he had rare ability to run the football,” Lucas said. “With the way the NFL has changed the last 20 years, the way the game is legislated has allowed for quarterbacks who are featured as runners to survive, get to second contracts and have more longevity. They are protected now.”

Lucas said the Bears believed Fields had a high floor because of his running ability and would improve his pass game with more time on task.

He still believes that, but thinks the Bears offense needs to be more centered around his running. Until they do, he said, “you’re cheating the player, you’re cheating your offense and you’re cheating your team.”

When Mahomes broke out in 2018, Lucas wasn’t particularly bothered. The Bears went 12-4 and Trubisky seemed on the upswing. Then things went sideways.

“When it gets really hard,” he said, “is when your guy starts to struggle.”
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 23, 2023, 01:37:25 PM
Thanks for that. Didn’t see the Fields part coming. I think one area they’ve failed Fields is trying to bring him along too slowly. I like what Houston is doing with Stroud. Let him sling it, and let him learn (or not learn). You invest two 1st round picks in a QB so you can hide him behind your running backs? Fucking stupid. They don’t s poor job of using what Justin does well, and incorporating that into his development plan.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 24, 2023, 06:47:21 PM
The Poles/Eberflus combo now have lost 13 consecutive games while allowing at least 25+ points in all of those losses.

How's that for realism?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 24, 2023, 06:55:11 PM
The Poles/Eberflus combo now have lost 13 consecutive games while allowing at least 25+ points in all of those losses.

How's that for realism?

For whatever reason, some people out there claim last year doesn't count. Based on the results, I don't think you can say for certain that they were actually tanking last year because they look worse this year.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 24, 2023, 07:30:42 PM
Pretty real. Right now no one looks up to the task. Injuries haven’t helped, but the talent isn’t what we hoped it’d be at this point.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 24, 2023, 09:22:08 PM
Pretty real. Right now no one looks up to the task. Injuries haven’t helped, but the talent isn’t what we hoped it’d be at this point.

Funny how CJ Stroud looks like an NFL QB already…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 25, 2023, 07:26:29 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/j6nt2PF/Screenshot-20230925-072415.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JBDZ4wP)
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 07:48:23 AM
As long as Fields keeps starting, and finishing, games as QB, they have the inside track on the first pick.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 07:58:13 AM
PAMan is funny.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 07:59:28 AM
Sadly, Nagy was AOTC on Fields.  Remember when Nagy was forced to play Fields? Who knew Nagy could ever be so right? Not Tempo, that's for sure.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:00:34 AM
PAMan is funny.

Looking forward to all the links defending Fields today....
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:00:49 AM
He doesn’t even realize he does it.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:04:29 AM
Looking forward to all the links defending Fields today....

PAMan:

Bears suck. McCaskeys suck. Poles sucks. Eberlose sucks. Getsy sucks. Fields sucks. OL sucks. DL sucks. Defense sucks.

OK, PAMan, but why do the Bears suck?

Superfan voice: “Fields…”

Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: frankiew on September 25, 2023, 08:04:46 AM
meanwhile in Green Bay, Jordan Love leads a 4th quarter comeback after being down 17-0
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:06:12 AM
He doesn’t even realize he does it.

We like when you refer to yourself in the third person.

Please tell us again that we need to see what Fields can do the rest of the way out. Because the coaches see him in practice day-in-and-day-out and we have seen him suck for 28 games, but yeah, Fields needs more throws to show everyone if he can be an NFL QB or not.

Please share with the rest of us whatever it is you are smoking and/or drinking.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:08:10 AM
meanwhile in Green Bay, Jordan Love leads a 4th quarter comeback after being down 17-0

Jasn, the Packer's best move in that game was injuring Carr so a guy who was as shitty as Fields had to come in and be the QB.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:08:14 AM
PAMan: “The GM and coaches suck beyond belief. But I trust their judgment! They clearly see something wrong with Fields. 13-4 Super Bowl!”
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: frankiew on September 25, 2023, 08:09:06 AM
Jasn, the Packer's best move in that game was injuring Carr so a guy who was as shitty as Fields had to come in and be the QB.
but knocking Carr out didn't give Green Bay 18 points. Love drove them down the field
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:09:17 AM
You guys are some pretty reactionary dudes. Glad you weren’t leading the country the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:11:05 AM
PAMan: “The GM and coaches suck beyond belief. But I trust their judgment! They clearly see something wrong with Fields. 13-4 Super Bowl!”

Schedule is easy. They should not be this bad. They are worse than last year.

Additionally, as they are still playing Fields most of us know their judgment sucks.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:12:36 AM
You guys are some pretty reactionary dudes. Glad you weren’t leading the country the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed.

He has started 28 games Tempo....
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:15:09 AM
but knocking Carr out didn't give Green Bay 18 points. Love drove them down the field

The offense went kaput after Carr left. The game went from being the NO DB No. 1 Game of His Life (can't remember his name only his uni number) to the Love Game after Carr went out of the game.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:35:12 AM
He has started 28 games Tempo....

Lol
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:35:52 AM
About half of which they weren’t even making a serious effort to win. With the Jets, you could at least say they were trying to win.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:37:00 AM
Schedule is easy. They should not be this bad. They are worse than last year.

Additionally, as they are still playing Fields most of us know their judgment sucks.

Superfan voice:

They should not be this bad…they should be impending Super Bowl champs!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:38:59 AM
You’ve got 30 something new faces on the team. Many of which are 1st and 2nd year players. Injuries have taken a toll on OL and secondary. They’re only 3 games into the actual rebuild. And oh yeah, it’s certainly on the table Poles, Flus, Getsy, and Yes, Fields are in over their heads.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: frankiew on September 25, 2023, 08:43:35 AM
You’ve got 30 something new faces on the team. Many of which are 1st and 2nd year players. Injuries have taken a toll on OL and secondary. They’re only 3 games into the actual rebuild. And oh yeah, it’s certainly on the table Poles, Flus, Getsy, and Yes, Fields are in over their heads.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/packers-have-nfls-youngest-roster-brian-gutekunst-says-priority-was-speed-not-youth

Youngest team in NFL beat Chicago and is 2-1
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:44:27 AM
The Lions started out 1-6 last year, heave been quite good since. Hopefully the Bears can copy that formula. It’s a bit early to toss out the baby with the bath water.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:48:21 AM
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/packers-have-nfls-youngest-roster-brian-gutekunst-says-priority-was-speed-not-youth

Youngest team in NFL beat Chicago and is 2-1

That’s it. It’s over. Fire everyone.

Then hire all new people and fire them immediately.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 09:17:38 AM
Lol Bears fans are an emotional bunch.

(https://i.postimg.cc/x1Ksj63n/IMG-5004.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2023, 09:35:34 AM
And oh yeah, it’s certainly on the table Poles, Flus, Getsy, and Yes, Fields are in over their heads.

But you are you only defending Fields? You literally are fighting tooth and nail for him. None of the others. It’s WEIRD! We could all make “excuses” for any of them.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 09:47:01 AM
But you are you only defending Fields? You literally are fighting tooth and nail for him. None of the others. It’s WEIRD! We could all make “excuses” for any of them.

That’s mostly because Fields gets 90% of the blame. The truth is, pretty much everyone with the Bears is sucking right now.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ILLove1997 on September 25, 2023, 11:38:04 AM
The Lions started out 1-6 last year, heave been quite good since. Hopefully the Bears can copy that formula. It’s a bit early to toss out the baby with the bath water.

oh the Bears are doing a good job copying the Lions model...
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 12:05:21 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/packers-have-nfls-youngest-roster-brian-gutekunst-says-priority-was-speed-not-youth

Youngest team in NFL beat Chicago and is 2-1

And, Boom goes the dynamite.

Stop fucking with Tempo's narrative and get back to work, Jasn.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 12:06:14 PM
But you are you only defending Fields? You literally are fighting tooth and nail for him. None of the others. It’s WEIRD! We could all make “excuses” for any of them.

He cannot admit he was wrong. Very Trumpish, I'd say.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 12:07:19 PM
About half of which they weren’t even making a serious effort to win. With the Jets, you could at least say they were trying to win.

Custard, please change the title of this thread to "The Bear Excuse Thread" because the thread title is a lie.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 12:09:43 PM
You’ve got 30 something new faces on the team. Many of which are 1st and 2nd year players. Injuries have taken a toll on OL and secondary. They’re only 3 games into the actual rebuild. And oh yeah, it’s certainly on the table Poles, Flus, Getsy, and Yes, Fields are in over their heads.

Remember when Belichick praised Eberlose for the culture being built at Halas Hall?

That you typed that still busts me up...
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 12:13:17 PM
The Lions started out 1-6 last year, heave been quite good since. Hopefully the Bears can copy that formula. It’s a bit early to toss out the baby with the bath water.

LOL.

It could be a 40-game losing streak and Tempo would be peddling this shit. But I'm the meatball/Super fan guy. You cannot make this stuff up.

Tempo, the Bears suck. I hope they keep playing Fields so they get the number 1 draft pick. Doubtful, but maybe they will clean house before the draft. 
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2023, 12:19:23 PM
I hope they keep playing Fields so they get the number 1 draft pick. Doubtful, but maybe they will clean house before the draft.

This. Keeping Poles I’m fine with, but the coaching staff and Fields need to go.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Jobu on September 25, 2023, 12:21:41 PM
This. Keeping Poles I’m fine with, but the coaching staff and Fields need to go.

I'm not feeling great about Poles either, tbh
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2023, 12:25:28 PM
I'm not feeling great about Poles either, tbh

I’m not either, but canning the GM probably isn’t realistic at this point. He needs 3-5 more seasons probably. Fields is given 28+ starts and still is worshipped and given more time. Remember Fields is a Pace guy, not Poles. So…
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 12:27:02 PM
I’m not either, but canning the GM probably isn’t realistic at this point. He needs 3-5 more seasons probably. Fields is given 28+ starts and still is worshipped and given more time. Remember Fields is a Pace guy, not Poles. So…

So does Fields need 33 - 35 more starts before we can judge him? I doubt we can gauge how good he is in only 3 - 5 more starts.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 01:51:57 PM
Remember when Belichick praised Eberlose for the culture being built at Halas Hall?

That you typed that still busts me up...

Well, it happened. Don't know what else to tell you.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 01:55:09 PM
I’m not either, but canning the GM probably isn’t realistic at this point. He needs 3-5 more seasons probably. Fields is given 28+ starts and still is worshipped and given more time. Remember Fields is a Pace guy, not Poles. So…

I see very few people "worshipping" Fields, so not sure where you come up with that. 80% of what I hear/see is negative on Fields.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 01:56:50 PM
So does Fields need 33 - 35 more starts before we can judge him? I doubt we can gauge how good he is in only 3 - 5 more starts.

No, but at least the rest of this year.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:28:15 PM
Remember when Belichick praised Eberlose for the culture being built at Halas Hall?

That you typed that still busts me up...

One thing I’ll say is that last year we heard things like “practices were too hard, players are being pushed to hard.” That’s not something we’ve heard this season. Not even in camp.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 02:30:18 PM
Well, it happened. Don't know what else to tell you.

If Belichick even said that I am sure he is now regretting it, as he now knows he is guilty of being Way Behind the Curve.

A note to Bill Belichick: Always trust content from The PAMan!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 02:32:05 PM
Well, it happened. Don't know what else to tell you.

You can admit that you do not know what Belichick told him. For all we know, he asked Eberlose if he could screw his wife. We know Belichick has been sued before for Alienation of Affection!
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 02:32:27 PM
No, but at least the rest of this year.

January 16th?
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:36:12 PM
You can admit that you do not know what Belichick told him. For all we know, he asked Eberlose if he could screw his wife. We know Belichick has been sued before for Alienation of Affection!

I’m sure that’s what happened.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:37:30 PM
Maybe Terry Bradshaw isn’t as dumb as we thought.

https://x.com/nestradaumus1/status/1706309830917451888?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:38:17 PM
January 16th?

Hopefully, that would be the NFL playoffs.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 02:39:25 PM
I’m sure that’s what happened.

Are you a lip reader?
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:40:34 PM
I wonder if Mike McDaniel could have fixed Fields. Could you imagine the McCaskeys hiring Mike McDaniel. Lol
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:41:52 PM
Are you a lip reader?

We know Belichick doesn’t make a habit out of pulling aside coaches that just whipped his ass. I believe Flus pretty much gave a good indication of what was said.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:42:50 PM
I’m sure that’s what happened.

I’m saying I’m sure that Belichick asked to screw his wife. Duh.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:51:00 PM
Was listening to (I think JR Jackson) nationally syndicated host and he thinks Caleb Williams’ game won’t translate to the NFL. First I’ve heard someone say this. I’ve not watched him. Lol thoughts?
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 02:55:33 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/9F9dgFm8/IMG-5006.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8248hbL)
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 03:07:48 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/9F9dgFm8/IMG-5006.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/D8248hbL)

All winnable games with a competent QB who could throw the ball to wide open guys. Even Kmet.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on September 25, 2023, 05:33:22 PM
I see very few people "worshipping" Fields,
Try looking in your mirror.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 05:48:49 PM
Try looking in your mirror.

Oooh, burn!
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 05:50:05 PM
I swear, the people who post here would be perfectly at home on the set of Mean Girls. Some petty ass bitches.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 05:50:37 PM
Oooh, burn!

Mn smoked you with that one....
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 05:51:30 PM
I swear, the people who post here would be perfectly at home on the set of Mean Girls. Some petty ass bitches.

If you did not realize you put it on a tee, there is not much that can be done for you!
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 06:38:45 PM
Mn smoked you with that one....

He sure did! I’m a Bears fan who likes Justin Fields, and wants him to succeed! For that I should be shamed!
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 06:39:14 PM
If you did not realize you put it on a tee, there is not much that can be done for you!

Petty ass bitches.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 06:41:13 PM
If saying 100x that Fields “needs to be better” is “worshipping” him. Guilty. I find him likable and want him to succeed. Sue me.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2023, 06:45:49 PM
If saying 100x that Fields “needs to be better” is “worshipping” him. Guilty. I find him likable and want him to succeed. Sue me.

Uh go back and read all the stuff you said this off-season…

And numerous threads you made. Are you insane?!
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 06:47:11 PM
Uh go back and read all the stuff you said this off-season…

And numerous threads you made. Are you insane?!

You pull them up for me.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Judge Judy on September 25, 2023, 06:50:46 PM
You pull them up for me.

Hell no. That took you all year to put all that shit out. I’ve got better stuff to do than rehash all that.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 06:51:57 PM
Hell no. That took you all year to put all that shit out. I’ve got better stuff to do than rehash all that.

You made the claim. You support it.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 07:14:39 PM
You made the claim. You support it.

This board is evidence. All the fluff posts. All the excuses. All the defending. No hiding from it, Tempo. You are a member of the Fields Is A Real NFL QB Cult. You aren't alone. Plenty of idiots out there with you.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 07:31:01 PM
This board is evidence. All the fluff posts. All the excuses. All the defending. No hiding from it, Tempo. You are a member of the Fields Is A Real NFL QB Cult. You aren't alone. Plenty of idiots out there with you.

Yes, I think he can be good. I am not ready to give up on him. But where are the “worship” posts? Where did I say he was more than a young QB with a lot of TALENT?
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:27:00 PM
Yes, I think he can be good. I am not ready to give up on him. But where are the “worship” posts? Where did I say he was more than a young QB with a lot of TALENT?

You are kidding, right? Every link is to someone making an excuse. You didn't even watch the whole last O"Sullivan video because you didn't want to see how bad Fields is.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:31:39 PM
You are kidding, right? Every link is to someone making an excuse. You didn't even watch the whole last O"Sullivan video because you didn't want to see how bad Fields is.

Is it possible for you to post without sounding like a troll? Just curious .
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Miles Leonard on September 25, 2023, 08:33:56 PM
This takes me back to Weber's Bag o' Excuses.

That being said, Tempo isn't going full on WFF on us, is he?
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:46:54 PM
Is it possible for you to post without sounding like a troll? Just curious .

You are just getting mad that your ridiculousness is getting called out.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 08:47:36 PM
This takes me back to Weber's Bag o' Excuses.

That being said, Tempo isn't going full on WFF on us, is he?

LOL. Fields Fan Forever!
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 08:54:15 PM
You are just getting mad that your ridiculousness is getting called out.

What ridiculousness exactly?
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 09:01:40 PM
What ridiculousness exactly?

Your FFF fanaticism.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 09:11:16 PM
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/is-it-time-to-bench-justin-fields-former-bears-oc-weighs-in/509065/

When you've lost Mike Martz....
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 09:51:38 PM
Your FFF fanaticism.

I need you to be more specific.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 09:52:26 PM
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-news/is-it-time-to-bench-justin-fields-former-bears-oc-weighs-in/509065/

When you've lost Mike Martz....

Lolololololololololololololol

Good troll attempt there. Gotta make it not so obvious though.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 25, 2023, 10:13:50 PM
I need you to be more specific.

Your posts are more than enough evidence of your Fields Fan Foreverism. The mere fact you think he cannot be judged until the end of the year is the epitome of being a FFF.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 25, 2023, 11:56:09 PM
Your posts are more than enough evidence of your Fields Fan Foreverism. The mere fact you think he cannot be judged until the end of the year is the epitome of being a FFF.

Your lack of specifics is telling.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 26, 2023, 08:00:27 AM
Your lack of specifics is telling.

It is right there. Only a FFF claims we need the rest of the season with Fields starting to judge him. He has 28 starts. He has sucked as a passer in every one. The data shows he is the worst. Time to move him on to the CFL like Henry Burris.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 26, 2023, 08:01:30 AM
It is right there. Only a FFF claims we need the rest of the season with Fields starting to judge him. He has 28 starts. He has sucked as a passer in every one. The data shows he is the worst. Time to move him on to the CFL like Henry Burris.

Mitch got 50 starts. Fields can get another 12.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 26, 2023, 08:02:02 AM
Still drunk, I guess.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 26, 2023, 08:08:04 AM
Mitch got 50 starts. Fields can get another 12.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. This makes you insane.

We didn't need 50 starts for  Mitch to know he sucked. The data shows Fields is actually far worse than Mitch. Giving him 1 more start is insanity.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 26, 2023, 08:09:06 AM
Still drunk, I guess.

FFF representing.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 26, 2023, 08:28:44 AM
Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. This makes you insane.

We didn't need 50 starts for  Mitch to know he sucked. The data shows Fields is actually far worse than Mitch. Giving him 1 more start is insanity.

Did you puke alphabet soup and come up with this?
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 26, 2023, 08:38:15 AM
But yeah. I’m sure it’s highly likely a DII UFA rookie is ready to start.

It’s about this point in their careers Hurts, Allen, and Tua turned it around. I know patience isn’t your thing, but it would be ignorant not to exercise it in this case. You’re just a baby throwing a tantrum right now.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on September 26, 2023, 09:23:42 AM
But yeah. I’m sure it’s highly likely a DII UFA rookie is ready to start.

It’s about this point in their careers Hurts, Allen, and Tua turned it around. I know patience isn’t your thing, but it would be ignorant not to exercise it in this case. You’re just a baby throwing a tantrum right now.

Comparing Fields to Hurts, Allen and Tua! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You are insane.

Patience? I have been patient reading all your idiotic posts defending the crap QB. He sucks. He is worse than Mitch. Ship him off to Canada.
Title: Re: The Bears Realism Thread
Post by: Reacher on September 30, 2023, 06:49:06 PM
In the last 2.5 years the Illini have won the Big Ten in basketball twice, had a 1 seed in the tourney, and played in a January bowl game.

Lulz
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Custard on October 02, 2023, 11:20:48 PM
#neverforget

https://bagoexcuses.blogspot.com/2007/08/beginning-list-81607.html?m=1
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on October 02, 2023, 11:33:31 PM
#neverforget

https://bagoexcuses.blogspot.com/2007/08/beginning-list-81607.html?m=1

Oh man, that’s classic. Love that that still exists.

Custard is becoming a wordier version and possibly even less coherent version of Mn.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Custard on October 03, 2023, 08:01:34 AM
Anyone else having any trouble understanding me?
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 08:03:19 AM
Anyone else having any trouble understanding me?

You’re basically a one-trick pony, so I get the gist.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 08:04:22 AM
Go back to enjoying last years’ 8 Illini wins as a high-water mark for 15 years.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 03, 2023, 08:24:52 AM
Anyone else having any trouble understanding me?
Lol. Don't look to me for an answer. I tend to be incoherent.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Reacher on October 03, 2023, 08:42:10 AM
Lol. Don't look to me for an answer. I tend to be incoherent.

Admitting it is the first step to recovery.
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on October 03, 2023, 08:48:02 AM
Admitting it is the first step to recovery.
Recovery from what ?
Title: Re: The Justin Fields Excuse Thread
Post by: ThePAMan on October 03, 2023, 10:10:37 AM
Anyone else having any trouble understanding me?

"Do I stutter?" would have been a better question.