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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: ThePAMan on September 05, 2023, 01:33:12 PM
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Date/Time: Friday, Sept. 8 | 6:30 p.m. CT
Location: Lawrence, Kansas (David Booth Kansas Memorial Stadium) (so Judge Judy knows to drive to Bloody Kansas)
TV: ESPN2 (Anish Shroff (play-by-play), Andre Ware (analyst), and Paul Carcaterra (reporter))
Betting odds listed at VSIN:
Opening line: Illini +4 o/u 55.5
South Point: Illini +3
Circa: Illini +3 57
Golden Nugget & Westgate: same as Circa
Wynn and Station: Illini +3 56.5
All the stuff stolen from FightingIllini.com:
ALL-TIME SERIES vs. KANSAS
Series: 3-2
Last: Kansas 47, Illinois 7 (9/21/68 at Illinois)
at Lawrence: 0-1 (L, 26-4 in 1892)
Bielema vs. Kansas: 0-0
Bad news galore!
• Saturday’s game will be the sixth meeting between Illinois and Kansas.
• The teams have not met since 1968 in Champaign, when Illinois snapped a three-game winning streak over Kansas with a 47-7 loss.
• Illinois will visit Lawrence, Kansas for the first time in 131 years.
• The last time Illinois visited Lawrence, it was the 16th game in program history.
• When Illinois last visited Lawrence in 1892, it was part of a three-game, four-day swing through the state of Kansas. The Illini played Baker in Baldwin City on Oct. 26 (W, 26-10), then played at KU the next day on Oct. 27 (L, 26-4), before taking a day off Oct. 28 and playing Kansas City Athletic Club in Kansas City, Kansas on Oct. 29 (W, 42-0).
Illinois-Kansas all-time results:
*Saturday, September 21 1968 Home L 7-47
*Saturday, October 5 1929 Home W 25-0
*Saturday, October 6 1917 Home W 22-0
*Saturday, October 7 1916 Home W 30-0
*Thursday, October 27 1892 Away L 4-26
Kansas wearing black uniforms. I have read the QB will play.
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We gonna wear white ?
The only thing that I think I misremember is being in the West stands and seeing Bobby Douglass throw a dart to a receiver 20 yards or so down the middle.
The ball was about 5 yards short. Just an awful throw.
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We gonna wear white ?
The only thing that I think I misremember is being in the West stands and seeing Bobby Douglass throw a dart to a receiver 20 yards or so down the middle.
The ball was about 5 yards short. Just an awful throw.
You could be confusing it with his time as a Bear.
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How did they do a 4 game swing through Kansas back then? Train? Stage coach?
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How did they do a 4 game swing through Kansas back then? Train? Stage coach?
Nichi probably knows as was probably the water boy at the time.
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Illini 27 Kansas 22
Book it!!!
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Nichi probably knows as was probably the water boy at the time.
Passenger train.
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Maybe they rode those cool bikes with the big front wheel
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Maybe they rode those cool bikes with the big front wheel
Murph's grandfather was in Champaign at the time complaining about those horseless carriages hogging the road.
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😂
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We gonna wear white ?
The only thing that I think I misremember is being in the West stands and seeing Bobby Douglass throw a dart to a receiver 20 yards or so down the middle.
The ball was about 5 yards short. Just an awful throw.
You were at a game in 1968? And you remember it?
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Murph's grandfather was in Champaign at the time complaining about those horseless carriages hogging the road.
Mn is apparently way too old to be my Grandfather
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Kansas QB is playing per the ESPN.
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Tempo quit spamming the board.
Let’s go, Illini!!
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Was looking forward to a game thread, but with the weird Tempo shit going on, I think I’ll pass.
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This IS the game thread.
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Was looking forward to a game thread, but with the weird Tempo shit going on, I think I’ll pass.
Lol
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This IS the game thread.
I’m good. Thanks.
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This is just one of those times here where I get Tempo fatigue. I’ll be out for a while
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We gonna wear white ?
The only thing that I think I misremember is being in the West stands and seeing Bobby Douglass throw a dart to a receiver 20 yards or so down the middle.
The ball was about 5 yards short. Just an awful throw.
Wow, that was 55 years. Don't remember that particular game but do remember watching the last game between the Illini and ND back in '67 or '68, ended up like 58-7.
Remember all the terrible passes when Douglass played with Bears. Lordy he stunk.
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What is a jayhawk anyway??
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This is just one of those times here where I get Tempo fatigue. I’ll be out for a while
Bummer. See ya when you get back.
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What is a jayhawk anyway??
It is like a kingfisher
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Ok fellas. Time to focus less on the Politics of Personal Destruction and more on Illini Football.
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Let’s go!
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I'm just glad Beth Mowins is not broadcasting this game.
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I'm just glad Beth Mowins is not broadcasting this game.
Yes, thank God for that.
Nice coverage on the punt.
Like these Illinois uniforms.
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I'm just glad Beth Mowins is not broadcasting this game.
Lolololololol
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Defense isn’t looking too good so far…
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Lucky a penalty flag didn't fly on the hit along the sideline after the completion.
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Defense isn’t looking too good so far…
This year. To finish your sentence.
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Defense isn’t looking too good so far…
Yeah, not good defense.
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Gonna be a long night. No rush. 10 plays 82 yards. Meed got punked bad back to back.
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And they get ball at half.
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No offense and no defense.. but the rest is all coming together
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WTF taking a swing at a guy. This is like watching Lovie's guys talk shit after giving up 20 yard plays
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3nd and long and get a personal foul after the play..
Bad at football and stupid.. good combo
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The Law Firm needs to refund their NIL cash
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That DLine just loves to get blocked.
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WTF taking a swing at a guy. This is like watching Lovie's guys talk shit after giving up 20 yard plays
Absolutely dumb. Better get it together or it's gonna get real bad.
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We look slow. Like last week.
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WTF taking a swing at a guy. This is like watching Lovie's guys talk shit after giving up 20 yard plays
Yeah, this team is good for 10 bad penalties per game. It’s bullshit.
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We look slow. Like last week.
Guys are wide open.
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More shenanigans that didn't work
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Should have went for it on 4th and 2. What the fuck is punting going to do? This fucking defense isn’t stopping shit anyway. Whether they’re on the 45 or the 20.
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C'mon Illini O!
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Let's see if that sack gets em going.
Finally some good d and good field position.
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O line no bueno
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This team is going nowhere this year. Jesus.
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He had him for a safety and fucked it up!
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Get a stop on 3rd down!
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Fuck, guys. I don’t know if I can stay with this. The defense is just so fucking bad.
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Fuck, guys. I don’t know if I can stay with this. The defense is just so fucking bad.
Bring back Lovie?
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Bring back Lovie?
No, but holy shit. This is so bad
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This embarrassment is on national tv
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Saying this defense is horrendous might be a bit over-complimentary.
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I was wrong
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No, but holy shit. This is so bad
Lovie brought in some players though... he just couldn't coach them up
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This embarrassment is on national tv
Thankfully it's only ESPN2.
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Yeah this is bad. Real bad.
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I’m gonna guess 21 point comeback on the road against a real team isn’t in our repertoire.
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Le defense, c'est de la merde
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This is fine
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Thankfully it's only ESPN2.
Too bad it’s not the ocho.
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Oh wait. Toledo is pretty good tho. Right? No reason to worry about this shit defense.
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I was wrong
Don't admit that to the people at Corporate
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Ok 2 minute drill. Maybe we can salvage something
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I’m gonna guess 21 point comeback on the road against a real team isn’t in our repertoire.
I'm not sure Kansas counts as a "real team"
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Oh wait. Toledo is pretty good tho. Right? No reason to worry about this shit defense.
I mean, sure. We can freak out if we don’t look perfect in the first game of the year in every sport. Why shouldn’t we now that I think about it.
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I'm not sure Kansas counts as a "real team"
Real enough.
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Don't admit that to the people at Corporate
Yep. One bad review = performance plan. You don’t want to be on a performance plan.
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Nice catch by Williams.
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They must of heard us trashing them.
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I mean, sure. We can freak out if we don’t look perfect in the first game of the year in every sport. Why shouldn’t we now that I think about it.
I know what a shitty defense looks like when I see it. I don’t care if it’s the first game or the fourth.
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Touchdown. Holy shit.
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Come on! We can do this!
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I know what a shitty defense looks like when I see it. I don’t care if it’s the first game or the fourth.
You sure you don't want to wait until November 16th to render judgment?
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You sure you don't want to wait until November 16th to render judgment?
I am positive
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Wow…
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Oh fuck. What the fuck are we doing?!
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This is fucking amazing
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Wow…
Hey Tempo. I think our defense sucks.
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I know what a shitty defense looks like when I see it. I don’t care if it’s the first game or the fourth.
So no chance they can get better over the course of the season?
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You’ve gotta try to be this shitty on defense honestly
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Hey Tempo. I think our defense sucks.
At this point, that seems pretty undeniable. Good scouting eye, though.
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So no chance they can get better over the course of the season?
Well, they sure as fuck can’t get much worse
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You can't give up that score after the slice of momentum they got. That's pathetic.
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So no chance they can get better over the course of the season?
Tough to get worse, but I suppose it is possible
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Well, they sure as fuck can’t get much worse
Now this is the quality football analysis only someone with a penis can give you.
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At this point, that seems pretty undeniable. Good scouting eye, though.
Thanks. Coming from you, that means nothing.
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I blame Jim Leonhard. Fucker is making the D bad on purpose since he is being paid by Wisconsin
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Illinois' coordinators have been terrible this game.
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You can't give up that score after the slice of momentum they got. That's pathetic.
And on the big play, looked like the Illini had a chance to make a big play. Next thing you know, 50 yards KU.
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Now this is the quality football analysis only someone with a penis can give you.
Did you not just watch them let Kansas go down the field and score in less than one minute with little to no resistance? How could the defense get much worse? And what kind of “analysis” is needed?
The defense sucks. It’s obvious. Will it get better? Maybe, but I honestly have doubts.
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Looks like we’re back to lovie era football. Both of our coordinators are trash.
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It’s the first half of the 2nd game. Not gonna throw out the baby with the bath water, but yeah, not looking good so far.
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(https://www.illinoisloyalty.com/attachments/img_6018-jpeg.28020/)
I smell a raise for Aaron Henry
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Looks like we’re back to lovie era football. Both of our coordinators are trash.
I fear you may be on to something. We look poorly coached right now.
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My scouting days are over
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I said if they win 6 I'd be happy. I don't get the people who thought they could win 8 or more games bringing in this many new players.
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I said if they win 6 I'd be happy. I don't get the people who thought they could win 8 or more games bringing in this many new players.
They keep playing like this they won't be invited to the Lunchables.com bowl.
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I said if they win 6 I'd be happy. I don't get the people who thought they could win 8 or more games bringing in this many new players.
This is a good point. I just wasn’t expecting to watch a high school defense. That’s where I am kinda stunned.
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I fear you may be on to something. We look poorly coached right now.
I'm going to guess we don't have the horses to compete. The one guy in the secondary is an ex-walk on, right?
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It’s fine. It’s only the 2nd game. Totally fine for the defense to get torched. They’ll be much better against big 10 teams. Nothing at all to worry about, fellas.
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It’s fine. It’s only the 2nd game. Totally fine for the defense to get torched. They’ll be much better against big 10 teams. Nothing at all to worry about, fellas.
Betting FOX is really stoked to have the Big Noon Game Show in Champaign next weekend!
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Betting FOX is really stoked to have the Big Noon Game Show in Champaign next weekend!
There will be lots of touchdowns!
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They keep playing like this they won't be invited to the Lunchables.com bowl.
Is that bowl better or worse than The Kraft Everyone Is Hungry Bowl they played in after Zook was fired?
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Wow, and I was semi-hopeful we’d come out better in the 2’d half. Ouch.
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great half time speech I see
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Wow, and I was semi-hopeful we’d come out better in the 2’d half. Ouch.
Last week you were glad they gave up that last second score to end the half!
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Oh, Bielema is pissed about the defense. He should talk to Tempo. Then Tempo could give him some “analysis” and let him know that it’s only the first half of the second game and meh.
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forced a fourth down put up a banner
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And a penalty for jackassery
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This defensive line knows they are allowed to shed blocks right? It looks like they are running right into their man and glueing themselves at the helmet.
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And Randolph being a dumbshit. It’s fine tho.
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Oh, Bielema is pissed about the defense. He should talk to Tempo. Then Tempo could give him some “analysis” and let him know that it’s only the first half of the second game and meh.
Oh it’s not been good. I hope that isn’t what you’ve gleaned from my posts. If so, maybe try reading better.
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It’s fine guys. It’s only the 2nd game. There’s lots of these. It’s fine.
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Oh it’s not been good. I hope that isn’t what you’ve gleaned from my posts. If so, maybe try reading better.
It’s only the 2nd game. No need to panic. It’s fine
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Oh it’s not been good. I hope that isn’t what you’ve gleaned from my posts. If so, maybe try reading better.
I can read fine.
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They held them to a FG. It’s fine.
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Just an undisciplined and poorly coached team in all phases right now.
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Oh it’s not been good. I hope that isn’t what you’ve gleaned from my posts. If so, maybe try reading better.
I was bitching about the defense, and you were making stupid snarky comments about me bitching about said defense. So basically fuck you.
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Just an undisciplined and poorly coached team in all phases right now.
It’s only the 2nd game. It’s fine.
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4th down and throw the ball short of the 1st down.. is nagy calling these plays
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JFC one yard route when you need 4. Fucking John Shoop shit here.
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4th down and throw the ball short of the 1st down.. is nagy calling these plays
Matt Nagy/John Shoop love child.
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4th and 6 and the completed a pass for 3 yards. It’s fine.
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It’s only the 2nd game. It’s fine.
No one said “it’s fine.”
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It’s only the 2nd game guys
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No one said “it’s fine.”
God forbid that I bitch about something tho.
Jobu: This defense sucks
Tempo: Wow great analysis, women announcers blah blah. It’s only the 2nd game. Jesus.
Jobu: Fuck you Tempo.
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It’s only the 2nd game guys
You learn a lot between games 2 and 3.
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You learn a lot between games 2 and 3.
True. The defense will be much better by then.
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Honestly, I kinda can’t believe I’m still watching this. Lol
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It’s only the 2nd game guys
Talk about a drama queen. I’m merely saying I’m not going to go into full hysteria because they had to eek out a win against Toledo and looked bad in the first half against a decent team on the road. But overall, yeah, hasn’t looked good. Football savant, you are.
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It’s fine
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Kadarius Toney plays for the Illini?
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It’s fine
Glad you think so. Because I’m about 99.5% sure I never said that.
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There is seriously zero defensive penetration on any play.
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Talk about a drama queen. I’m merely saying I’m not going to go into full hysteria because they had to eek out a win against Toledo and looked bad in the first half against a decent team on the road. But overall, yeah, hasn’t looked good. Football savant, you are.
I wasn’t being dramatic when I was saying that the defense looked like shit. I actually told you at the time that I know what a shitty defense looks like, and this is it. This defense sucks. Can it get better? Maybe, but I have doubts.
Football savant? No. Never claimed to be. I just know bad football when I see it.
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Welp, finally got a guy in there, but they didn’t try to block him.
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I wasn’t being dramatic when I was saying that the defense looked like shit. I actually told you at the time that I know what a shitty defense looks like, and this is it. This defense sucks. Can it get better? Maybe, but I have doubts.
Football savant? No. Never claimed to be. I just know bad football when I see it.
I agree. It’s been bad. Quite bad. Not sure what we’re arguing about.
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Maybe they should practice tackling more in practice so they get better by the NU game.
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Maybe they should practice tackling more in practice so they get better by the NU game.
Maybe a swim move by a lineman or some line stunts. They are literally glued to their man.
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I agree. It’s been bad. Quite bad. Not sure what we’re arguing about.
I don’t either, honestly.
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But I may update the date on it being ok to panic though if this keeps up.
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Maybe a swim move by a lineman or some line stunts. They are literally glued to their man.
I’m pretty disappointed in that front. Particularly Randolph. Dude can’t wait to get in front of a camera and talk. Make a fucking play. Get in the backfield. Then talk.
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But I may update the date on it being ok to panic though if this keeps up.
Haha, fair enough. Except I’m already panicking
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But I may update the date on it being ok to panic though if this keeps up.
This is the point of contention between Jobu and you
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Nice run by Luke Fields!
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Deceptive athleticism!
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Good thing the Illini receivers can block downfield for the running QB
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Altmyer had Williams open for a brief second but didn’t pick it up.
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Who would have thought he could run so fast?
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So a guy can launch with the crown into a qb atomach now?
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So a guy can launch with the crown into a qb atomach now?
This is what happens when women start commenting on football
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I thought it looked like the crown of the helmet was to his side. Looks like football to me.
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I thought it looked like the crown of the helmet was to his side. Looks like football to me.
You can’t lead with the crown of the helmet no matter what.
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I thought it looked like the crown of the helmet was to his side. Looks like football to me.
#MeToo
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You can’t lead with the crown of the helmet no matter what.
So a shoulder pad to the gut is illegal if his head is “down” and not initiating contact?
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I agree with you guys, but it’s against the rules to drop your head and hit with the crown of the helmet
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So a shoulder pad to the gut is illegal if his head is “down” and not initiating contact?
No, that’s not what I’m saying. If you make contact with the crown of your helmet, it’s targeting.
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I agree with you guys, but it’s against the rules to drop your head and hit with the crown of the helmet
What I’m saying is it looked to me like the helmet was off the side and he hit him with the shoulder pad. No definitive angle though.
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What I’m saying is it looked to me like the helmet was off the side and he hit him with the shoulder pad. No definitive angle though.
Maybe. I thought he got him in the chest.
Doesn’t matter. They’re about to give up another touchdown anyway.
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IMO the head is always going to lead because it’s above the shoulder pads. I get protecting the players but this is getting ridiculous.
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I agree with Jobu
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What I’m saying is it looked to me like the helmet was off the side and he hit him with the shoulder pad. No definitive angle though.
I thought the helmet hit his ribs but the helmet was turned. What do I know? I did win the HQ2 NCAA Basketball Tournament Pool though.
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I agree with Jobu
He's the new Carl
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IMO the head is always going to lead because it’s above the shoulder pads. I get protecting the players but this is getting ridiculous.
I agree. It is getting ridiculous. But these guys also should know how to tackle legally at this point. Keep your head up. If you’re not seeing what you’re hitting, it’s probably illegal.
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I thought the helmet hit his ribs but the helmet was turned. What do I know? I did win the HQ2 NCAA Basketball Tournament Pool though.
You seem to know a lot about FT shooting in November blowout wins. FWIW
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You seem to know a lot about FT shooting in November blowout wins. FWIW
I am AOTC when it comes to free shooting being a season long issue
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Penn State next week? Yikes.
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I am AOTC when it comes to free shooting being a season long issue
Yep. First sign of poor FT shooting and “boom!” You are there to call it out!
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Penn State next week? Yikes.
Fox Pregame Show in Grange Grove
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False comeback time?
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Yep. First sign of poor FT shooting and “boom!” You are there to call it out!
You want me on that wall. You need me on that wall.
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Well, that was an ill advised throw. Nice pick.
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False comeback time?
Hopefully, as someone here will have the over.
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False comeback time?
No. Absolutely not.
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Altmyer 80 yard run…??
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Did I mention that Altmyer is more athletic than you would think? I mean, who would think he can actually run?
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It’s gonna be fun every week with these announcers. Holy shit Altmyer is a white guy and he can run! Holy shiiiittt!
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That was targeting
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If that’s not targeting I don’t know what the fuck is.
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That was obvious
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There’s that super deceptive speed again
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Hold them and we have a game!
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Hold them and we have a game!
Hilarious
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He picked that up easily.
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Refs trying to help Illinois sports. Wtf kind of bizarro world is this?
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Wtf was Kansas doing there? Lol
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Refs trying to help Illinois sports. Wtf kind of bizarro world is this?
Refs may need a TD for their bets!
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The over hasn’t been hit yet?
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Or are you talking spread?
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Was across the line of scrimmage too
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Or are you talking spread?
Line was 3.5 some places
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That's all she wrote
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Moore is having an ok game. Bryant, not so much.
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Moore is having an ok game. Bryant, not so much.
The line sucks ass. Going to need the TE(s) and RB(s) stay in and block
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Right before the game started I was about to post on here that I had this unshakable feeling that we were going to get our shit pushed in tonight. Then I got started grilling and I forgot.
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Was across the line of scrimmage too
Actually he wasn’t. Entire body has to be across. His back foot wasn’t over.
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Right before the game started I was about to post on here that I had this unshakable feeling that we were going to get our shit pushed in tonight. Then I got started grilling and I forgot.
You should wait 3 to 5 more games before passing such judgment
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Right before the game started I was about to post on here that I had this unshakable feeling that we were going to get our shit pushed in tonight. Then I got started grilling and I forgot.
That’s probably good. The grilling I mean.
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You should wait 3 to 5 more games before passing such judgment
True. It is only the second game. No need for drama.
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Really fortunate not to be 0-2
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Really fortunate not to be 0-2
Even more fortunate not to be 0-3 after next week.
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2-11 in true road non-conference games since 2002.
The two wins were Cuse (2007) and Uconn (2019)
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Both lines are trash. Play calling sucks. Defensive backfield and line backers blow. Looks like Dominic was wrong again.
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my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
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my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
My night of sleep was ruined.
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Well, hopefully we can take our beating from Penn State like men, and then get it together a bit better.
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They're not going to add to the torture in Happy Valley with Gus Johnson, are they ?
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We probably deserve him. Coordinators need to get their shit together or it will get real ugly very quickly.
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They're not going to add to the torture in Happy Valley with Gus Johnson, are they ?
It is early for this, but Judge Judy should not be traveling to Happy Valley for the game next Saturday.
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It is early for this, but Judge Judy should not be traveling to Happy Valley for the game next Saturday.
Mn tryin to confuse me, I see…
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Mn tryin to confuse me, I see…
He is counting on you not reading the local fishwrap!
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Mn tryin to confuse me, I see…
Just trying to be optimistic about beating PSU. Again.
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Mn tryin to confuse me, I see…
But you will have to drive to Boulder if you want to see the Fox pregame show....