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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 06:03:39 PM
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I’m optimistic
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C’mon anonymous voters. Let’s see how you voted.
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Anything other than a patient observer would be really weird.
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Like we really don’t know yet. This will be the year we will find out.
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Anything other than a patient observer would be really weird.
“Optimistic” is really weird?
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Like we really don’t know yet. This will be the year we will find out.
I’ll tell you this, he’s already “good enough” to play quarterback in the NFL. It’s just TBD as to whether or not he’ll be a high level passer. I’d take him over shlubs like Mayfield and Wentz. Hell, I’d probably take him over Russell Wilson at this point.
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Anything other than a patient observer would be really weird.
I knew that was you btw.
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I’d also take Fields over Kyler Murray. At least I know Fields will be focused on football.
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I knew that was you btw.
The “optimistic” view is based on hope. It’s not rooted in really anything as a passer yet. It’s like saying you’re “optimistic” about a QB that hasn’t show really anything yet in the way of passing the ball consistently. It’s based on what you “hope” he does. If anything, what he’s shown in the passing game should honestly be discouraging and pessimistic. Why not just be patient and see what happens.
People were optimistic with about every single QB that’s been drafted in the first round in the history of football. We see how that’s turned out. He hasn’t really proven anything yet in the QB passing department honestly.
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https://youtu.be/dUMKT-wakXY?si=xgy_AUjYUHqPSAja
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https://youtu.be/dUMKT-wakXY?si=xgy_AUjYUHqPSAja
Lol, a 24 minute video analyzing 6 preseason passes? No thanks. I’ll wait for the analyses of games 1, 2, and 3 of the regular season.
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The “optimistic” view is based on hope. It’s not rooted in really anything as a passer yet. It’s like saying you’re “optimistic” about a QB that hasn’t show really anything yet in the way of passing the ball consistently. It’s based on what you “hope” he does. If anything, what he’s shown in the passing game should honestly be discouraging and pessimistic. Why not just be patient and see what happens.
People were optimistic with about every single QB that’s been drafted in the first round in the history of football. We see how that’s turned out. He hasn’t really proven anything yet in the QB passing department honestly.
I’ve seen enough “wow” moments even as a passer to think it can get better. Sure, we’d all like to see more consistency. He’s still relatively inexperienced. Young QBs struggling with timing and accuracy isn’t exactly an anomaly.
Again, I’d take him for sure over some other starters simply because of the explosiveness of his game. And I know he’ll be working to get better, not playing Call of Duty.
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Lol, a 24 minute video analyzing 6 preseason passes? No thanks. I’ll wait for the analyses of games 1, 2, and 3 of the regular season.
Presumably the defenses will be harder to read in the regular season, Tempo.
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I’ll wait for the analyses of games 1, 2, and 3 of the regular season.
Does this mean you'll be posting more volume than you have been since May ?
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who is jfc?
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who is jfc?
Justin Fields Christ. Look at Tempo's avatar.
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Presumably the defenses will be harder to read in the regular season, Tempo.
Fields will be allowed to run in the regular season. That’ll loosen things up. Expect some big plays. Expect some bad ones.
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Nice to see the trolls voted.
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Guessing Jobu has quite a few more mults than we know.
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who is jfc?
Whichever girl you pick will be that to you…
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Lol, a 24 minute video analyzing 6 preseason passes? No thanks. I’ll wait for the analyses of games 1, 2, and 3 of the regular season.
He should have been lighting it up on his down field throws and he was not. This is an issue that should not have to be worked on in season. That is what the off- and pre-seasons are for.
He is going to have to run for 100 yards a game again for them to have any chance of winning.
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Nice to see the trolls voted.
Maybe the people on this board have their own opinions and not those of Bernstein, Parkins, et al.?
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He should have been lighting it up on his down field throws and he was not. This is an issue that should not have to be worked on in season. That is what the off- and pre-seasons are for.
He is going to have to run for 100 yards a game again for them to have any chance of winning.
He threw like 9 passes in the preseason. R-E-L-A-X to quote Aaron Rodgers.
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Maybe the people on this board have their own opinions and not those of Bernstein, Parkins, et al.?
10 votes in a row for “he sucks?” Probably not.
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He threw like 9 passes in the preseason. R-E-L-A-X to quote Aaron Rodgers.
Exactly. He needed reps and did not get them.
When, not if, he gets his bell rung running the ball, you better not whine that they should have had a better backup QB plan. Criticize the coaching staff for not giving him the reps necessary for him to be an actual NFL QB.
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Exactly. He needed reps and did not get them.
He doesn’t call the plays?
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Exactly. He needed reps and did not get them.
When, not if, he gets his bell rung running the ball, you better not whine that they should have had a better backup QB plan. Criticize the coaching staff for not giving him the reps necessary for him to be an actual NFL QB.
If you’d take a moment to pause your hyperbolic rants, you’d have noticed that I said I think he should have played more in the preseason.
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He doesn’t call the plays?
They called them for him last weekend and we saw what happened if you watched the 24 minute video. Poor decision making and worse throws.
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If you’d take a moment to pause your hyperbolic rants, you’d have noticed that I said I think he should have played more in the preseason.
I know you did while still defending the QB for poor play in the limited time he was in there.
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Why would I spend a half hour of my life fretting over 4 incompletions in a preseason game?
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I know you did while still defending the QB for poor play in the limited time he was in there.
I defended him? Where? He wasn’t good against Buffalo. He also played 13 snaps. In a practice game. I’m not going to get wound up about it unless I see some extended poor play in the regular season.
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Why would I spend a half hour of my life fretting over 4 incompletions in a preseason game?
Why would you spend a half hour fluffing a QB who can't make reads or throws?
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Why would you spend a half hour fluffing a QB who can't make reads or throws?
Ok, you’ve clearly kicked it back into full troll mode. Have a good day.
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Ok, you’ve clearly kicked it back into full troll mode. Have a good day.
I don't know how I'm the troll when I watched the tape and saw the guys open....Tempo is projecting again....
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I don't know how I'm the troll when I watched the tape and saw the guys open....Tempo is projecting again....
Ok…so I watched it. What do you think he said?
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Ok…so I watched it. What do you think he said?
Didn't the guy say on certain throws he was forcing the ball instead of doing pre snap reads or progressions to see the open man?
Also said he had a couple of throws that were really off.
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Lol yeah.
By my count he probably blamed mostly Fields for 2 plays. He spent at least as much time questioning the scheme and design as he did critiquing Fields. A lot of the routes did look weird. He also said “no one is winning on the outside.” He also mentioned not to freak out, could look a lot better game 1. The 3rd and 11 was probably the one really bad play Fields had. I’m not gonna freak out over a couple/three bad plays in an extremely limited appearance in preseason.
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Lol yeah.
By my count he probably blamed mostly Fields for 2 plays. He spent at least as much time questioning the scheme and design as he did critiquing Fields. A lot of the routes did look weird. He also said “no one is winning on the outside.” He also mentioned not to freak out, could look a lot better game 1. The 3rd and 11 was probably the one really bad play Fields had. I’m not gonna freak out over a couple/three bad plays in an extremely limited appearance in preseason.
That you are not freaking out is apparent. That you are not considering the whole body of work to date is also apparent by your limiting your comment to 2 preseason games.
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If the Bears come out against GB and are going 3 and out the first few drives, I’ll start to get concerned. Till then, I’m not losing any sleep over a sloppy 3-4 plays in preseason.
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That you are not freaking out is apparent. That you are not considering the whole body of work to date is also apparent by your limiting your comment to 2 preseason games.
What’s happened in the past is almost irrelevant. He’s at least got NFL players around him now. He hasn’t even played a single snap that actually mattered with the improved roster. Way too early to tie myself up in knots.
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What’s happened in the past is almost irrelevant. He’s at least got NFL players around him now. He hasn’t even played a single snap that actually mattered with the improved roster. Way too early to tie myself up in knots.
Joe Burrow says hello…
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Joe Burrow says hello…
I can’t think of a single quarterback who’s had a greater effect on his franchise right off the bat than Joe Burrow. Glad your expectations are “reasonable.”
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And secondly, Fields has never had Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins. Tyler Boyd, their #3 would have been the Bears’ best receiver last year.
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And secondly, Fields has never had Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins. Tyler Boyd, their #3 would have been the Bears’ best receiver last year.
Then you would have 3 of them yelling at him on the sidelines.
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Basically Bear Regular Season Game 3 is the new January 16th?
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Basically Bear Regular Season Game 3 is the new January 16th?
Semi-reasonable enough. Keep in mind, this roster/franchise as constructed is still in its infancy. I hope you’re not expecting the ‘84 49ers out of the gate.
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The new Jan. 16th is Nov. 9th, I’ve decided.
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If by the 2nd half of the 2nd season of the rebuild we’re not seeing real improvement, criticism will start holding more weight. I don’t think it’s realistic to think everything is fixed by game 1 of season 2.
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2023-qbs-best-worst/yxvqewdhatrxu7qwajhb89vp
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/nfl-quarterback-rankings-2023-qbs-best-worst/yxvqewdhatrxu7qwajhb89vp
I'm waiting until November 6th.