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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: illiniray on May 15, 2023, 06:32:02 PM
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https://twitter.com/WCIA3Bret/status/1658241171158716420?t=uxxLqm0aUHXUYZLU5x_R8A&s=19
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https://www.wcia.com/sports/your-illini-nation/shannon-jr-hawkins-show-out-at-nba-draft-combine/
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https://twitter.com/WCIA3Bret/status/1658269516210503681?t=NTHqMXcKVT0NHOr8sBOz4w&s=19
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https://twitter.com/WCIA3Bret/status/1658270346359734272?t=TK5wyVd8Qwj2ZiUufNm4HA&s=19
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Podz has been fantastic today in the 5 v 5.
Hawkins doing nothing.
Shannon did nothing although he was +31
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Podz's athletic numbers are not bad. Better than I expected. He is not slow.
Shannon is exceptionally quick and fast.
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-strength-agility?SeasonYear=2023-24&dir=A&sort=LANE_AGILITY_TIME
The anthrometric measurements don't really help any of our guys, though Hawkins has fairly decent length.
https://www.nba.com/stats/draft/combine-anthro?SeasonYear=2023
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Podz (4-9) 10-8-7 with 0 turnovers.
Shannon 6 points.
Hawkins (1-4) 3-3-5 with 0 turnovers
Podz looking like maybe a late 1st. I think he stays in although if he came back he could moved up to where Grady Dick is
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Wow, really nice numbers from Podziemski.
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I don’t know what the staff was thinking on Podz. They had to see something in practice, right?! Like he has the confidence and swag of an NBA player. Very Tyler Herro ish. Yeah it was at a mid-major school, but it’s obvious he can do that against bigger competition. I don’t think he was allowed the freedom to play the way he wanted and was confined at Illinois. I really believe that.
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I don’t know what the staff was thinking on Podz. They had to see something in practice, right?! Like he has the confidence and swag of an NBA player. Very Tyler Herro ish. Yeah it was at a mid-major school, but it’s obvious he can do that against bigger competition. I don’t think he was allowed the freedom to play the way he wanted and was confined at Illinois. I really believe that.
Hard to say. Underwood had a hard on for Goode and TJ. The story was question if Podz could guard yet.
His shot form looked good in limited time.
It was a fuck up to let him go. You can always use guys who can shoot and he was obviously a big scorer in HS.
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He definitely showed flashes when he got on the floor his freshman year. I was disappointed when he left, but figured Clark and Epps were an upgrade. Whoops.
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Hard to say. Underwood had a hard on for Goode and TJ. The story was question if Podz could guard yet.
His shot form looked good in limited time.
It was a fuck up to let him go. You can always use guys who can shoot and he was obviously a big scorer in HS.
Podz is light years better than Goode and every other guard on our team besides maybe TSJ. That’s even debatable too as you see at the combine. To play some of the players Underwood did in front of him is flabbergasting.
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It was really a damned if you do, damned if you don’t situation. DMW had a solid junior year, shot lights out from 3, and guarded hard. 😬 He was not the same guy his senior year on the offensive end of the floor. So more of his minutes could have gone to Podz down the stretch when it was clear he was in a rut, but most coaches are going to go with the more experienced guy that isn’t a liability on D. And that’s where additional minutes for Podz would have come from, not Goode or RJM as some keep suggesting.
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I don’t know what the staff was thinking on Podz. They had to see something in practice, right?! Like he has the confidence and swag of an NBA player. Very Tyler Herro ish. Yeah it was at a mid-major school, but it’s obvious he can do that against bigger competition. I don’t think he was allowed the freedom to play the way he wanted and was confined at Illinois. I really believe that.
When you have a coach whose mantra is “get old stay old”— they are going to value experience over talent
There was no reason Damonte Williams was playing 28 mpg and Podz 5 mpg here.
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There were actually good reasons he played a lot more than Podz, but whatever.
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I don’t know what the staff was thinking on Podz. They had to see something in practice, right?! Like he has the confidence and swag of an NBA player. Very Tyler Herro ish. Yeah it was at a mid-major school, but it’s obvious he can do that against bigger competition. I don’t think he was allowed the freedom to play the way he wanted and was confined at Illinois. I really believe that.
Well when he played he was terrible. Shot badly, couldn't guard a stationary guy, etc.
Maybe he was way better at practice but based on what he actually showed on the court at Illinois, he was not ready at all.
Which is okay, I still wished he'd have stayed but totally understood him moving down a level. It's not like Brad Underwood's the only guy who missed here, anybody could've had him when he left but he ended up at a second-tier WCC team. That's not a coincidence.
He's not going to be the last guy who transfers and turns out good. That's also obviously much more rare than somebody transferring and turning out worse than we thought - there are way more examples of that, but I don't see many people lauding Underwood for Adam Miller deciding to leave.
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Hard to say. Underwood had a hard on for Goode and TJ. The story was question if Podz could guard yet.
His shot form looked good in limited time.
It was a fuck up to let him go. You can always use guys who can shoot and he was obviously a big scorer in HS.
A kid choosing to leave isn't the coach's fuck up, that's silly. He wasn't creaned.
Do you give Brad a lot of credit for 'letting' Adam Miller go?
It's kind of a losing proposition. Podz showed nothing indicating he was ready to be a good player. We could've played him more, sure, but it seems pretty likely to have cost us the conference title, which we won that year on literally the final play of the season. And there isn't really a correlation between playing time and likelihood of transferring - teams are losing guys no matter how much they play. So playing him and potentially costing us a banner was by no means a guarantee he'd have stayed in any case.
I'll personally take the conference title over MAYBE one year of good Podz.
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There were actually good reasons he played a lot more than Podz, but whatever.
Of course, but look at it from the perspective who's absurdly basketball stupid.
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Podz dominated in high school against extremely weak competition. He was like a grown man playing against little kids.
It is not a huge shock he had trouble adjusting to a very high level of division 1 college ball, especially defensively.
His athletic numbers are surprisingly good. 39 inch vertical and a fast 3/4 sprint. His lane agility time was meh, but not terrible.
OTOH, his physical measurements are just average, okay, but not overly impressive.
He is also a highly skilled basketball player, so it is not surprising he excelled at Santa Clara. He would eventually have done well at Illinois. I just don't think anyone expected him to do this well this soon.
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Well when he played he was terrible. Shot badly, couldn't guard a stationary guy, etc.
Maybe he was way better at practice but based on what he actually showed on the court at Illinois, he was not ready at all.
Which is okay, I still wished he'd have stayed but totally understood him moving down a level. It's not like Brad Underwood's the only guy who missed here, anybody could've had him when he left but he ended up at a second-tier WCC team. That's not a coincidence.
He's not going to be the last guy who transfers and turns out good. That's also obviously much more rare than somebody transferring and turning out worse than we thought - there are way more examples of that, but I don't see many people lauding Underwood for Adam Miller deciding to leave.
5 minutes a game in garbage time is way too small of amount to conclude anything. And the one game he did get real time, he won the game vs NW late.
How can you even comment on defense? Luke Goode is slow as molasses. He got to play more than Podz.
And again when you have a guy that does nothing on the court like Damonte get 28 mpg, and a 1st round NBA pick gets 5 mpg…that’s purely coaching.
Podz didn’t magically turn into a 5 minute a game player to an NBA pick in a year. He was that guy all along.
Adam Miller tore his ACL. It’s not like Illinois replaced him with someone better. They didn’t.
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Yeah I’ll agree with Dom on this subject. Let the criticism rain…!!!!
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A kid choosing to leave isn't the coach's fuck up, that's silly. He wasn't creaned.
Do you give Brad a lot of credit for 'letting' Adam Miller go?
It's kind of a losing proposition. Podz showed nothing indicating he was ready to be a good player. We could've played him more, sure, but it seems pretty likely to have cost us the conference title, which we won that year on literally the final play of the season. And there isn't really a correlation between playing time and likelihood of transferring - teams are losing guys no matter how much they play. So playing him and potentially costing us a banner was by no means a guarantee he'd have stayed in any case.
I'll personally take the conference title over MAYBE one year of good Podz.
Kofi won that title you fucking retard.
Are you seriously arguing that playing a 1st round NBA draft pick ahead of Damonte Williams would have cost Illinois games? Seriously?
Dude is going to be in the NBA. Literally a year after playing 5 minutes a game at Illinois.
And you still claiming playing Damonte was a better benefit to the team than playing a freaking NBA pick?
Do you realize how many bad defensive players got playing time on that team? Plummer was atrocious. He still played. Didn’t cost them a title. Yet, Podz over Damonte would have? Seriously? What basketball skill does Damonte Williams do better that Podz?
Podz lead the fucking WCC in rebounding this year. As a 6’5 guard. And you don’t think he can defend?
Get the fuck out. I don’t want you to leave May 31. Leave now. You’re too stupid to post here. You are a modern day Baghdad Bob
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Yeah I’ll agree with Dom on this subject. Let the criticism rain…!!!!
This is why I had to get rid of Sparky. Too stupid to be here.
This guy would literally defend anything Underwood does, including watching a guy that went from sitting on his bench to a 1st round NBA pick in one season.
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Kendall Gill played 8 mpg as a freshman, and he was good defensively.
Basketball players improve between their freshman and sophomore years, sometimes dramatically.
Podz was completely lost in practice as a freshman. Da'monte Williams knew where everyone was supposed to be on both ends of the court and understood the scouting reports.
Suggesting freshman Podz should have played over 5th year Williams is nonsense.
Again, Podz had played at a very low level of high school ball. Wisconsin didn't even recruit him.
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He had multiple high D1 offers including Kansas, Kansas State, Marquette, ASU, and Kentucky.
Let's not act like he was fucking Jimmy Chitwood who had only played pickup games in his jeans out by the barn and nobody wanted him or saw any potential.
Staff fucked up not so much his freshmen year, but by not having a plan to use him Soph year.
We had several guys we played all year who couldn't shoot at all.
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Kendall Gill played 8 mpg as a freshman, and he was good defensively.
Basketball players improve between their freshman and sophomore years, sometimes dramatically.
Podz was completely lost in practice as a freshman. Da'monte Williams knew where everyone was supposed to be on both ends of the court and understood the scouting reports.
Suggesting freshman Podz should have played over 5th year Williams is nonsense.
Again, Podz had played at as very low level of high school ball. Wisconsin didn't even recruit him.
Kentucky offered him.
Yes talented freshman play over 5th year guys unless they come to Illinois. Which is why Underwood won’t be able to recruit freshman very much anymore. They know they’ll be recruited over by Mr Get Old Stay Old.
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There are offers and offers. Illinois offered Pence from St. Joe. UK and KU apparently made "I am interested" offers.
I wish Podz had stayed. With Goode's injury etc, he'd have played. He made the decision to transfer.
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He had multiple high D1 offers including Kansas, Kansas State, Marquette, ASU, and Kentucky.
Let's not act like he was fucking Jimmy Chitwood who had only played pickup games in his jeans out by the barn and nobody wanted him or saw any potential.
Staff fucked up not so much his freshmen year, but by not having a plan to use him Soph year.
We had several guys we played all year who couldn't shoot at all.
How would we know what the staff had planned for him?
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How would we know what the staff had planned for him?
It obviously was not enough to keep him engaged.
He was not used enough his freshmen year. No, he did not deserve to start, but he got very little tick and the others were not exactly tearing it up in second half of year.
He clearly saw himself behind RJ and Underwood's new adopted son Goode.
Both showed some potential but both were a bust this past year.
Obviously if both had blown up like staff had hoped nobody would care too much about Podz.
Bringing in for four combo/wing guys I am sure also played into him leaving.
He wanted a major role now. Maybe they was nothing they could have done.
The basic point here is that staff missed on evaluation of him. He believed in himself and clearly when given a shot he excelled.
He is going to be in the NBA. That didn't happen by coaching at SC.
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It obviously was not enough to keep him engaged.
He was not used enough his freshmen year. No, he did not deserve to start, but he got very little tick and the others were not exactly tearing it up in second half of year.
He clearly saw himself behind RJ and Underwood's new adopted son Goode.
Both showed some potential but both were a bust this past year.
Obviously if both had blown up like staff had hoped nobody would care too much about Podz.
Bringing in for four combo/wing guys I am sure also played into him leaving.
He wanted a major role now. Maybe they was nothing they could have done.
The basic point here is that staff missed on evaluation of him. He believed in himself and clearly when given a shot he excelled.
He is going to be in the NBA. That didn't happen by coaching at SC.
We have no idea - your entire point is based on assumptions without any evidence supporting them.
He chose to leave. He was not creaned, he made a decision for himself and his family and it turned out to be a good one. We have no idea why and speculation - especially speculation from people who already dislike our coach about how he might’ve mishandled Podz - doesn’t do anybody any good. We could’ve played him more, sure, at the risk of the conference title we won and with zero guarantee whatsoever it makes him stay. I think that would’ve been an obvious dereliction of duty from our coach, though, whose job is to win basketball games. There are going to be more guys like him, who have talent but aren't quite ready, and playing them at the risk of losing games in the hope that MAYBE they'll stay, even though playing time hasn't at all determined who transfers, is contrary to what the head coach's job is.
Like just think about what happened this year - we started a freshman PG who played much better than Podziemski did in his time here. He was outplayed by another freshman who earned the starting job, causing the first kid to transfer. Then the kid who we put in the starting lineup transferred too. It just doesn't matter how much you play a kid - just look at the top of the portal rankings for more evidence of that.
Other guys weren’t tearing it up? We won the fuckin’ league on the final play of the season, which we got to by winning 4 of our last 5 (two against ranked teams, two on the road). THAT is the cost of playing a dude who was very clearly not ready. The only conference title we've won since Deron Williams was on campus.
It makes sense that he saw himself behind those guys - he was worse than those guys here.
Why do you suspect the best offer he got as a transfer was Santa Clara? Is it Underwood’s fault? Seems to me like a kid who made a decision to play at a lower level of competition and thrived there, earning a look at the pro level. I don’t see a negative there unless I’m really determined to find one.
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Next time one of you geniuses credits Underwood for a kid leaving and not turning out that good, make sure you point it out. There have been what, 5-8x as many of those? And I’ve never seen someone give the staff credit for one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBwYHmQn_0E
8:21 mark, Coleman up to same things....shrugging arms on wing? Really think him and TSJ need to return and build themselves even more for a weaker class in 2024 draft.
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We have no idea - your entire point is based on assumptions without any evidence supporting them.
He chose to leave. He was not creaned, he made a decision for himself and his family and it turned out to be a good one. We have no idea why and speculation - especially speculation from people who already dislike our coach about how he might’ve mishandled Podz - doesn’t do anybody any good. We could’ve played him more, sure, at the risk of the conference title we won and with zero guarantee whatsoever it makes him stay. I think that would’ve been an obvious dereliction of duty from our coach, though, whose job is to win basketball games. There are going to be more guys like him, who have talent but aren't quite ready, and playing them at the risk of losing games in the hope that MAYBE they'll stay, even though playing time hasn't at all determined who transfers, is contrary to what the head coach's job is.
Like just think about what happened this year - we started a freshman PG who played much better than Podziemski did in his time here. He was outplayed by another freshman who earned the starting job, causing the first kid to transfer. Then the kid who we put in the starting lineup transferred too. It just doesn't matter how much you play a kid - just look at the top of the portal rankings for more evidence of that.
Other guys weren’t tearing it up? We won the fuckin’ league on the final play of the season, which we got to by winning 4 of our last 5 (two against ranked teams, two on the road). THAT is the cost of playing a dude who was very clearly not ready. The only conference title we've won since Deron Williams was on campus.
It makes sense that he saw himself behind those guys - he was worse than those guys here.
Why do you suspect the best offer he got as a transfer was Santa Clara? Is it Underwood’s fault? Seems to me like a kid who made a decision to play at a lower level of competition and thrived there, earning a look at the pro level. I don’t see a negative there unless I’m really determined to find one.
TL;DR.
We sucked at the end of last year. Did you even watch the tourney?
It was Kofi and pray Plummer had a big game and the rest were broke.
But your buddy continued his streak of being 0 for second weekend.
I think he is on 7 now.
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We were so terrible we won four of five, two on the road and two against ranked teams, to clinch the conference title on the final play. "We sucked during that stretch" is literal Truth level logic, it's the same shit he does trying to claim victory - and remember, Truth actively wants Illinois basketball to be bad. Just ignore the results and pretend with me. Couldn't make it up.
Now, could we have passed on the conference title and played Podziemski more, hoping he MIGHT both stay and become an NBA player who left the next year? Yeah, we could've. That would've been completely contrary to Brad Underwood's job description though.
Just look at the top of the portal rankings. Kel'el Ware played 16 mpg at Oregon and left. JJ Starling played 30 mpg at Notre Dame and left. Julian Phillips played 24mpg at Tennessee and left. Brandon Murray has played 30+mpg at two separate schools in two years and has left both of them. We started two different true freshmen at point guard this year, both played 24+ mpg, both left. It doesn't matter how many minutes you play a guy, you're just crossing your fingers and hoping no matter what. And losing games - potentially losing the only conference title we've won since the F4 year - is not worth the hope that maybe if you play a guy who isn't ready more, he won't leave.
If Underwood starts losing more because he's playing the freshmen in the hope they don't leave, will you say "well at least he's trying to keep the young guys"? Or will you use the losing as more evidence about Hulka? Do you give him credit for letting Curbelo, Alan Griffin, Adam Miller leave, or does he exclusively get blame on the rare occasions someone leaves and is good?
You guys act like I'm heavily invested in Brad Underwood. The truth is that I'm not - I'm heavily invested in Illinois basketball continuing to be a nationally competitive and relevant program, which we were not for a lot of years until we hired him, and now have been for four consecutive years. If we fall off and stop being that, I will fully support firing him. Turning on him for stupid shit despite him having turned us from a every year watching-at-home team to an every year in-the-tournament team - we had missed 7 of 10 tournaments when we hired him, and just had our fourth consecutive tournament quality team in his sixth year here - is a really good way for us to go back to being the program we were between Self and Underwood, and I don't know about you but those years where we actually sucked were way fucking worse than the year we "sucked" but still won the Big Ten.
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We were so terrible we won four of five, two on the road and two against ranked teams, to clinch the conference title on the final play. "We sucked during that stretch" is literal Truth level logic, it's the same shit he does trying to claim victory - and remember, Truth actively wants Illinois basketball to be bad. Just ignore the results and pretend with me. Couldn't make it up.
Now, could we have passed on the conference title and played Podziemski more, hoping he MIGHT both stay and become an NBA player who left the next year? Yeah, we could've. That would've been completely contrary to Brad Underwood's job description though.
Just look at the top of the portal rankings. Kel'el Ware played 16 mpg at Oregon and left. JJ Starling played 30 mpg at Notre Dame and left. Julian Phillips played 24mpg at Tennessee and left. Brandon Murray has played 30+mpg at two separate schools in two years and has left both of them. We started two different true freshmen at point guard this year, both played 24+ mpg, both left. It doesn't matter how many minutes you play a guy, you're just crossing your fingers and hoping no matter what. And losing games - potentially losing the only conference title we've won since the F4 year - is not worth the hope that maybe if you play a guy who isn't ready more, he won't leave.
If Underwood starts losing more because he's playing the freshmen in the hope they don't leave, will you say "well at least he's trying to keep the young guys"? Or will you use the losing as more evidence about Hulka? Do you give him credit for letting Curbelo, Alan Griffin, Adam Miller leave, or does he exclusively get blame on the rare occasions someone leaves and is good?
You guys act like I'm heavily invested in Brad Underwood. The truth is that I'm not - I'm heavily invested in Illinois basketball continuing to be a nationally competitive and relevant program, which we were not for a lot of years until we hired him, and now have been for four consecutive years. If we fall off and stop being that, I will fully support firing him. Turning on him for stupid shit despite him having turned us from a every year watching-at-home team to an every year in-the-tournament team - we had missed 7 of 10 tournaments when we hired him, and just had our fourth consecutive tournament quality team in his sixth year here - is a really good way for us to go back to being the program we were between Self and Underwood, and I don't know about you but those years where we actually sucked were way fucking worse than the year we "sucked" but still won the Big Ten.
Baghdad Bob, it’s easier to win college basketball games when you give playing time to NBA players.
Pretty simple.
Don’t worry. Illinois will suck without NBA level talent, and you’re gonna see it next season when they have 0 NBA picks on the team.
Continues to believe that playing 5th year guys over freshmen NBA players is good for the program. It’s a good way to never recruit another NBA talent out of HS ever again.
And Illinois was 2-12 last year vs Q1. They weren’t “relevant”.
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The B1G Conference Title Canard over and over again....NGAF except for Illini fans since can't win on Sat or Sunday in The Tourney.
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Baghdad Bob, it’s easier to win college basketball games when you give playing time to NBA players.
Pretty simple.
Don’t worry. Illinois will suck without NBA level talent, and you’re gonna see it next season when they have 0 NBA picks on the team.
Continues to believe that playing 5th year guys over freshmen NBA players is good for the program. It’s a good way to never recruit another NBA talent out of HS ever again.
And Illinois was 2-12 last year vs Q1. They weren’t “relevant”.
We're all going to be impressed at your fifth year of bad predictions in a row, surely.
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The B1G Conference Title Canard over and over again....NGAF except for Illini fans since can't win on Sat or Sunday in The Tourney.
It was a thing everybody cared about until we finally won one and the goalposts moved, then it was suddenly worthy of mockery to be happy that we won our league and hung a banner. Just ignore the success in the larger sample size and exclusively judge a coach based on a single elimination tournament - just makes perfect sense. If you're a moron like Truth, that is. Which at this point it seems like you kind of are.
The notion that winning your conference doesn't matter is beyond idiotic. Why even watch the games before the tournament then? Maybe you don't, that'd actually make a whole lot of sense.
You guys deserve Truth to win his bet with me. He's exactly the type of poster that thrives here. That isn't a compliment.
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It was a thing everybody cared about until we finally won one and the goalposts moved, then it was suddenly worthy of mockery to be happy that we won our league and hung a banner. Just ignore the success in the larger sample size and exclusively judge a coach based on a single elimination tournament - just makes perfect sense. If you're a moron like Truth, that is.
The notion that winning your conference doesn't matter is beyond idiotic. Why even watch the games before the tournament then? Maybe you don't, that'd actually make a whole lot of sense.
The games before the Tourney are basically play in games, moron. You said so yourself that the Illini were comfortably in based on their regular season record. But, keep caring about B1G titles instead of the shit that matters, dork.
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Yep, the 35 games you play leading up to the tournament are nothing more than meaningless play-in games, there's actually only 1-6 games that matter in any given year.
The dumbest possible way to watch college basketball, holy smokes. What the fuck happened to you? It's like you come here every day trying to prove to Truth of all people, NO, -I- am the dumbest poster here.
Hanging conference banners matters to me. Maybe you're a moron who doesn't pay attention for the first 35 games of the year, but others of us aren't that stupid. Like, at the old HQ you were a reasonable person. You trolled sometimes, but you also made lots of posts that weren't like, over-the-top level dumb. You seem to have totally dropped that here on HQ2, and now 100% of your posts are of the remarkably stupid trolling variety. I don't really get it - what do you get out of turning into Truth all of a sudden?
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I don't know why Podz bothered with college.
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Are there only four college football teams that play a game that matters at all?
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There are part time fans that only pay attention to the Superbowl, the prestigious college bowl games, the Final Four, the World Series...
Then there are serious fans who care about winning important stuff like the recruiting rankings.
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I don't know why Podz bothered with college.
Dumb kid.
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The dumbest possible way to watch college basketball, holy smokes. What the fuck happened to you? It's like you come here every day trying to prove to Truth of all people, NO, -I- am the dumbest poster here.
Hanging conference banners matters to me. Maybe you're a moron who doesn't pay attention for the first 35 games of the year, but others of us aren't that stupid. Like, at the old HQ you were a reasonable person. You trolled sometimes, but you also made lots of posts that weren't like, over-the-top level dumb. You seem to have totally dropped that here on HQ2, and now 100% of your posts are of the remarkably stupid trolling variety. I don't really get it - what do you get out of turning into Truth all of a sudden?
Lol
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There are part time fans that only pay attention to the Superbowl, the prestigious college bowl games, the Final Four, the World Series...
Then there serious fans who care about winning important stuff like the recruiting rankings.
Nichi dropping the heat today, he must have downed a good bowl of muselix this morning!
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Yep, the 35 games you play leading up to the tournament are nothing more than meaningless play-in games, there's actually only 1-6 games that matter in any given year.
The dumbest possible way to watch college basketball, holy smokes. What the fuck happened to you? It's like you come here every day trying to prove to Truth of all people, NO, -I- am the dumbest poster here.
Hanging conference banners matters to me. Maybe you're a moron who doesn't pay attention for the first 35 games of the year, but others of us aren't that stupid. Like, at the old HQ you were a reasonable person. You trolled sometimes, but you also made lots of posts that weren't like, over-the-top level dumb. You seem to have totally dropped that here on HQ2, and now 100% of your posts are of the remarkably stupid trolling variety. I don't really get it - what do you get out of turning into Truth all of a sudden?
Do you consider 20-21 a successful season since we "split" the big ten title, won the conference tourney but got our asses handed to us by Loyola in 2nd rd
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Do you consider 20-21 a successful season since we "split" the big ten title, won the conference tourney but got our asses handed to us by Loyola in 2nd rd
Of course he thinks it was successful since "B1G Titles" are his thing since this program cannot win the second day of The Tournament.
And I did watch the games leading up to that Loyola debacle.
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Yep, the 35 games you play leading up to the tournament are nothing more than meaningless play-in games, there's actually only 1-6 games that matter in any given year.
The dumbest possible way to watch college basketball, holy smokes. What the fuck happened to you? It's like you come here every day trying to prove to Truth of all people, NO, -I- am the dumbest poster here.
Hanging conference banners matters to me. Maybe you're a moron who doesn't pay attention for the first 35 games of the year, but others of us aren't that stupid. Like, at the old HQ you were a reasonable person. You trolled sometimes, but you also made lots of posts that weren't like, over-the-top level dumb. You seem to have totally dropped that here on HQ2, and now 100% of your posts are of the remarkably stupid trolling variety. I don't really get it - what do you get out of turning into Truth all of a sudden?
You obviously have your opinions on How to Be a Fan, How to Be an HQ2 Poster, and How to Assess QBs. Get over yourself. At least you can enjoy the B1G Title Banners.
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Do you consider 20-21 a successful season since we "split" the big ten title, won the conference tourney but got our asses handed to us by Loyola in 2nd rd
We didn’t win any share of the 20-21 conference title but hard to call a 1-seed a full stop failure unless you’re being a dumbass.
The end of the season was for sure disappointing, really the only true tournament upset Underwood’s suffered, but no a year we are a 1-seed in the tournament after not making it in 9 of the previous 12 seasons isn’t a failure to any reasonable observer.
Were you guys here doing your sad sack mopey “Underwood sucks” thing throughout that season? That’d make sense.
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You obviously have your opinions on How to Be a Fan, How to Be an HQ2 Poster, and How to Assess QBs. Get over yourself. At least you can enjoy the B1G Title Banners.
You seem to have lost all abilities other than How To Be The New Truth
That’s what you’ve turned into. Your posts are the same quality and logical consistency as the guy who got thrown out of UI for being a stalker and has spent his entire life since rooting for them to be bad on the Internet. Mr. Wrong About Everything.
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We didn’t win any share of the 20-21 conference title but hard to call a 1-seed a full stop failure unless you’re being a dumbass.
The end of the season was for sure disappointing, really the only true tournament upset Underwood’s suffered, but no a year we are a 1-seed in the tournament after not making it in 9 of the previous 12 seasons isn’t a failure to any reasonable observer.
Were you guys here doing your sad sack mopey “Underwood sucks” thing throughout that season? That’d make sense.
Whether you are a "reasonable" observer is up for debate. Tempo may even argue that the previous 12 seasons are not to be considered when weighing whether the season where you are a 1-seed is a failure after you lose to Loyola the 2d game of The Tourney.
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Whether you are a "reasonable" observer is up for debate. Tempo may even argue that the previous 12 seasons are not to be considered when weighing whether the season where you are a 1-seed is a failure after you lose to Loyola the 2d game of The Tourney.
Whether you’re a reasonable observer isn’t really up for debate anymore unfortunately. At one point you were, and now you’re the new Truth. It’s really sad to watch.
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Whether you’re a reasonable observer isn’t really up for debate anymore unfortunately. At one point you were, and now you’re the new Truth. It’s really sad to watch.
I am not the one saying that I am.
I actually have a job to go to, a wife, kids, dog, house, and more than 80k in the old 401(k), and do not pick up "young girls." I am also not a Trumper. So I do not know how I am the "new Truth." But carry on with the meme anyway. It hurts no one.
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I am not the one saying that I am.
I actually have a job to go to, a wife, kids, dog, house, and more than 80k in the old 401(k), and do not pick up "young girls." I am also not a Trumper. So I do not know how I am the "new Truth." But carry on with the meme anyway. It hurts no one.
What's your dog's name?
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What's your dog's name?
IlliniLegends.
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LMFAO.
Most dogs are low thinkers.
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IlliniLegends.
Oh man. Did your dog get banned from here?
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LMFAO.
Most dogs are low thinkers.
At least I got a laugh out of you instead of just making you mad.
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Oh man. Did your dog get banned from here?
He forgot where he dug the hole where he buried his password.
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It was a thing everybody cared about until we finally won one and the goalposts moved, then it was suddenly worthy of mockery to be happy that we won our league and hung a banner. Just ignore the success in the larger sample size and exclusively judge a coach based on a single elimination tournament - just makes perfect sense. If you're a moron like Truth, that is. Which at this point it seems like you kind of are.
The notion that winning your conference doesn't matter is beyond idiotic. Why even watch the games before the tournament then? Maybe you don't, that'd actually make a whole lot of sense.
You guys deserve Truth to win his bet with me. He's exactly the type of poster that thrives here. That isn't a compliment.
Baghdad Bob,
Nobody deserves you. Go white knight for some offended Catholic faggots. I see that’s your cause on the Scout board,
Anyone claiming Illinois would have lost more games in 2021-22 by playing Podz more minutes instead of Goode/Melendez/Williams is fucking retarded
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You seem to have lost all abilities other than How To Be The New Truth
That’s what you’ve turned into. Your posts are the same quality and logical consistency as the guy who got thrown out of UI for being a stalker and has spent his entire life since rooting for them to be bad on the Internet. Mr. Wrong About Everything.
I have a Finance degree from U of I. I posted it on the old board. Kind of like how 97 posted his Ferrari. Success people do in fact post on this board.
With fans like you, Illinois deserves failure.
Fans like you are the reason Lovie Smith was hired.
Fans like you are the reason John Groce was given 5 years to fail, and Ron Turner to go 1-11 and 3-8 before finally being fired.
Fans like you are the reason the Chief was retired and the War Chant ended.
Fans like you are the reason there’s no enthusiasm for Illinois sports. You are fine being a liberal politically correct loser program. I’m not. And since I’m an alum of the school, I’m gonna shout down all the losers that have hi-jacked what used to be a good school to go to with good sports and an all around good time.
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I have a Finance degree from U of I. I posted it on the old board. Kind of like how 97 posted his Ferrari. Success people do in fact post on this board.
With fans like you, Illinois deserves failure.
Fans like you are the reason Lovie Smith was hired.
Fans like you are the reason John Groce was given 5 years to fail, and Ron Turner to go 1-11 and 3-8 before finally being fired.
Fans like you are the reason the Chief was retired and the War Chant ended.
Fans like you are the reason there’s no enthusiasm for Illinois sports. You are fine being a liberal politically correct loser program. I’m not. And since I’m an alum of the school, I’m gonna shout down all the losers that have hi-jacked what used to be a good school to go to with good sports and an all around good time.
How are you $500k in the hole?
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I have a Finance degree from U of I. I posted it on the old board. Kind of like how 97 posted his Ferrari. Success people do in fact post on this board.
With fans like you, Illinois deserves failure.
Fans like you are the reason Lovie Smith was hired.
Fans like you are the reason John Groce was given 5 years to fail, and Ron Turner to go 1-11 and 3-8 before finally being fired.
Fans like you are the reason the Chief was retired and the War Chant ended.
Fans like you are the reason there’s no enthusiasm for Illinois sports. You are fine being a liberal politically correct loser program. I’m not. And since I’m an alum of the school, I’m gonna shout down all the losers that have hi-jacked what used to be a good school to go to with good sports and an all around good time.
Enjoy shouting it down for a few more days until there are literally zero boards you're allowed to post on.
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Do you consider 20-21 a successful season since we "split" the big ten title, won the conference tourney but got our asses handed to us by Loyola in 2nd rd
Yes. Should we be happy with it if it’s the best we ever do? No. But a B1G title and a 1 seed will always be a successful season here. Even if it did end in terribly disappointing fashion.
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Yes. Should we be happy with it if it’s the best we ever do? No. But a B1G title and a 1 seed will always be a successful season here. Even if it did end in terribly disappointing fashion.
The bigotry of low expectations.
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The bigotry of low expectations.
Winning a conference title and being a 1 seed are “low expectations?”
I’ve said many times I’d “settle” for a Bill Self level of “failure.”
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Did ‘21 end incredibly bitterly? Yes, yes it did. Was it still a great year overall? Yes, Yes it was.
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Winning a conference title and being a 1 seed are “low expectations?”
Being happy with it when you lose to fucking Loyola is.
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Being happy with it when you lose to fucking Loyola is.
Losses happen. Somebody has to lose, but at least make it look like you've come to play.
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Losses happen. Somebody has to lose, but at least make it look like you've come to play.
True.
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“Coach Underwood made it known that I was not good enough to play,” Podziemski said. “I didn’t want to risk being 20 (years old) and not playing. I wanted to go somewhere where I had the opportunity.”
This is not a good look for Podz. It shows his mental immaturity. Clearly, if he struggles at the next level; it will be everyone's fault but his.
No way BU told him he was not good enough. Read between the lines. He wanted guaranteed tick, and BU could not offer that with who was returning plus coming in.
He could have been honest and said he was looking for guaranteed playing time. Or with all the competition at UI, he wasn't sure he could earn playing time.
Or maybe revert to the standard bs and thank BU and UI blah, blah, blah ...
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True.
I forgot. Was Loyola way underseeded based on metrics?
Was that a morning game?
Did the team collectively look like they were half awake?
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Being happy with it when you lose to fucking Loyola is.
Everyone was bitterly disappointed with the Loyola game; but that doesn’t make the season a failure. I’d say more of a missed opportunity, which matches about every other season we’ve ever had.
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Pretty crazy that we’ve never had that surprise Final Four/Elite 8 run. Hell, I can’t even think of a surprise S16 off the top of my head.
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We’ve never had a S16 with worse than a 5 seed, no? A 5 seed is basically a 50/50 shot.
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“Coach Underwood made it known that I was not good enough to play,” Podziemski said. “I didn’t want to risk being 20 (years old) and not playing. I wanted to go somewhere where I had the opportunity.”
This is not a good look for Podz. It shows his mental immaturity. Clearly, if he struggles at the next level; it will be everyone's fault but his.
No way BU told him he was not good enough. Read between the lines. He wanted guaranteed tick, and BU could not offer that with who was returning plus coming in.
He could have been honest and said he was looking for guaranteed playing time. Or with all the competition at UI, he wasn't sure he could earn playing time.
Or maybe revert to the standard bs and thank BU and UI blah, blah, blah ...
When Damonte Williams plays 28 minutes a game, and you play 4 minutes a game, yes Underwood is telling you you aren’t good enough to play.
Also Goode/RJ played far more too.
Guess what. Underwood was wrong. And Podz proved it.
If Underwood couldn’t see that Podz was better than Damonte/RJ/Goode his freshman, why stick around another year?
Brad Underwood is a bad coach in all aspects of coaching.
He owes Orlando Antigua and Kofi Cockburn his entire salary
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I have to agree that DaMonte getting 28 mpg was probably excessive.
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I have to agree that DaMonte getting 28 mpg was probably excessive.
Damonte played 28 mpg
NBA 1st Rd Pick played 5 mpg.
The NBA 1st Rd Pick then transferred where he lead his conference in rebounding as a 6’5 guard. Grabbed more rebounds than Drew Timme did.
Yet the morons in the fanbase that will defend Underwood no matter what claim Podz wasn’t tough enough to play here?
And Sparky even claims that by playing an NBA 1st round pick more instead of Damonte Williams it would have cost Illinois a Big 10th title. Yes the literal same player that lead his conference in rebounding the following season.
This is why I hate Illini fans. They deserve losing. All the No Chief No Check people are gone. All the people who lived the success of the 1980s are dead or in nursing homes. And what’s left is the politically correct Sparkys of Illinois flat out rooting for laundry with no accountability whatsoever for success. He’s gotten tricked into think just making the NCAA tourney is a big success when that was the bare minimum from 1983 to 2007.
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I have to agree that DaMonte getting 28 mpg was probably excessive.
You are entitled to bad opinions.
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Pretty crazy that we’ve never had that surprise Final Four/Elite 8 run. Hell, I can’t even think of a surprise S16 off the top of my head.
If I recall properly, the Illini have never beaten a lower seeded team in The Tourney.
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If Podz was already an NBA player; then why transfer? Why not enter the draft?
Dom posts some dense shit, but his claim that Podz was an NBA player as a freshman is idiotic.
The talent and basic skills were there. The savoir faire was not. He struggled making the transition from a low level of high school ball and the helicopter dad didn't help.
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“Coach Underwood made it known that I was not good enough to play,” Podziemski said. “I didn’t want to risk being 20 (years old) and not playing. I wanted to go somewhere where I had the opportunity.”
This is not a good look for Podz. It shows his mental immaturity. Clearly, if he struggles at the next level; it will be everyone's fault but his.
No way BU told him he was not good enough. Read between the lines. He wanted guaranteed tick, and BU could not offer that with who was returning plus coming in.
He could have been honest and said he was looking for guaranteed playing time. Or with all the competition at UI, he wasn't sure he could earn playing time.
Or maybe revert to the standard bs and thank BU and UI blah, blah, blah ...
Why do you think he is lying about what he claims Underachiever told him?
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I forgot. Was Loyola way underseeded based on metrics?
Was that a morning game?
Did the team collectively look like they were half awake?
None of this matters. 1 seed, 2 All Americans, 1 disgusting loss where the team looked like it was completely unprepared where the highly compensated Underachiever was outcoached by Porter Moser.
Other than that, the season was a success. Just like the play Our American Cousin was a success despite Lincoln's brains being splattered all over the stage at the end.
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Why do you think he is lying about what he claims Underachiever told him?
I think he is characterizing what Uberwood told him. He was likely told no guarantees, he would have to earn minutes. He was likely told areas in need of improvement.
Perhaps in his mind, no guarantees and needs improvement = not good enough. He didn't want to take that risk.
BU tells all of them.they have to earn playing time. He might tell RayJ he is a likely starter. He might have told Lieb it would be a challenge to see the court.
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I’ll agree that simply making the tourney shouldn’t be considered a “good year.” We had a 20-25 year period not that long ago where I think we had more tournament berths than Kentucky and UCLA.
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If Podz was already an NBA player; then why transfer? Why not enter the draft?
Dom posts some dense shit, but his claim that Podz was an NBA player as a freshman is idiotic.
The talent and basic skills were there. The savoir faire was not. He struggled making the transition from a low level of high school ball and the helicopter dad didn't help.
He didn’t struggle. He never got a chance to play.
If coach won’t play you, how can you show your skills? Underwood determines who plays. And why stick around for a second year when Underwood already recruits over you with more 5th year guys?
It was flat out the biggest misevaluation of talent in the history of Illinois basketball. Period.
It was dumb to play Mike Tisdale over Meyers Leonard.
It was dumb to play Jon Ekey ahead of Malcolm Hill.
Playing Damonte Williams 28 min, and Podz gets walkon level minutes was a collosal misevaluation of talent.
“Podz wasn’t as tough as Damonte”.
Podz just went the very next year and lead his league in rebounding. He very clearly was far tougher than Damonte and a bigger threat on offense.
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I think he is characterizing what Uberwood told him. He was likely told no guarantees, he would have to earn minutes. He was likely told areas in need of improvement.
Perhaps in his mind, no guarantees and needs improvement = not good enough. He didn't want to take that risk.
BU tells all of them.they have to earn playing time. He might tell RayJ he is a likely starter. He might have told Lieb it would be a challenge to see the court.
What minutes did Skyy Clark earn? He was a turd in after his HS injury and Underwood still played him.
What minutes did Damonte Williams earn? 28 mpg to do nothing on the court. Nothing.
Bottomline is without Kofi, Underwood would be fired by now. He’s a poor coach, poor evaluator of talent, and knows nothing but generic coach speak
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I’ll agree that simply making the tourney shouldn’t be considered a “good year.” We had a 20-25 year period not that long ago where I think we had more tournament berths than Kentucky and UCLA.
Now you're basically just making it up.
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He didn’t struggle. He never got a chance to play.
Since you never played ball, you probably don't know this. There is something called practice. That is where rotation minutes are earned, not in games.
Once in a blue moon, there is gamer like George Montgomery, who looks horrible in practice, but plays well in games. Podz might be a gamer?
There are also rare guys like Alex Legion who are reverse gamers.
Most play like they practice.
Monte could guard 1 - 4. Podz couldn't guard a lane agility drill cone.
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What minutes did Damonte Williams earn? 28 mpg to do nothing on the court. Nothing.
If defense is nothing, you are right. You don't know jack shit about basketball.
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If defense is nothing, you are right. You don't know jack shit about basketball.
What defense? Frazier was the best on ball defender on the team.
Plummer couldn’t guard anybody and he played a ton of minutes
Just admit there’s nothing on a basketball court that Damonte Williams did better than Podz. Nothing.
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Monte could guard 1 - 4. Podz couldn't guard a lane agility drill cone.
Podz LEAD THE WCC in REBOUNDING as a 6’5 guard. What guard, who leads his league in rebounding, can’t play defense? Rebounding and defense go hand in hand.
And if he can’t guard anyone at the Big 10 level, then why is he now a projected 1st round pick?
You know who couldn’t guard anyone? Skyy Clark. Every team went after him. He STILL PLAYED FAR MORE than Scencire Harris who can play defense.
You are fucking retarded. Just admit that Underwood played far far inferior players (even players who were terrible at defense or added 0 offensive value to the team) and it’s bc he’s a dumb shit.
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Nobody ever improves. Kendall Gill was an NBA player. Why did he play behind Glynn Blackwell?
Ken Norman and Scott Meents, NBA players, played behind Efrem Winters and George Montgomery. Henson must have been dumb.
Dom is a genius. Underwood is an idiot. Yet,
https://dailyillini.com/sports-stories/2022/03/30/brad-underwood-illinois-basketball-contract/
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Now you're basically just making it up.
Look up ‘83-‘05 ish we are right there with anyone for tourney berths. It was a long time ago that I looked it up but I think Duke and maybe only a couple other programs had more over about a 25 year stretch.
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What defense? Frazier was the best on ball defender on the team.
Plummer couldn’t guard anybody and he played a ton of minutes
Just admit there’s nothing on a basketball court that Damonte Williams did better than Podz. Nothing.
Just pretend with me guys
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Podz LEAD THE WCC in REBOUNDING as a 6’5 guard. What guard, who leads his league in rebounding, can’t play defense? Rebounding and defense go hand in hand.
And if he can’t guard anyone at the Big 10 level, then why is he now a projected 1st round pick?
You know who couldn’t guard anyone? Skyy Clark. Every team went after him. He STILL PLAYED FAR MORE than Scencire Harris who can play defense.
You are fucking retarded. Just admit that Underwood played far far inferior players (even players who were terrible at defense or added 0 offensive value to the team) and it’s bc he’s a dumb shit.
Hahahaha, there’s “basketball stupid” and then there’s “if you rebound of course you’re a great perimeter defender”.
Legitimately the worst basketball take you’ve ever posted and that’s a mind-blowingly high bar.
You’re not a very smart person, Dom.
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Look up ‘83-‘05 ish we are right there with anyone for tourney berths. It was a long time ago that I looked it up but I think Duke and maybe only a couple other programs had more over about a 25 year stretch.
All of those years were shitty failures though, things like conference titles and making the tourney every year and sending guys to the NBA are things only people who want a loser program like.
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All of those years were shitty failures though, things like conference titles and making the tourney every year and sending guys to the NBA are things only people who want a loser program like.
Close.
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Hahahaha, there’s “basketball stupid” and then there’s “if you rebound of course you’re a great perimeter defender”.
Legitimately the worst basketball take you’ve ever posted and that’s a mind-blowingly high bar.
You’re not a very smart person, Dom.
He may be fairly intelligent. He clearly doesn't know the first thing about team sports. He is not even aware that playing team is earned in practice.
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This is interesting. If UW could get over the hump in March.... we would have something. Most wins in BT vs ranked teams.
https://twitter.com/CBKReport/status/1659653981600137218?s=20 (https://twitter.com/CBKReport/status/1659653981600137218?s=20)
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What defense?
“He’s 6-3 (and) he’s got close to a seven-foot wingspan and we ask him to guard (centers) at times and (power forwards) at times who are 6-9 or 6-10,” Underwood said
https://www.si.com/college/illinois/basketball/illinois-basketball-damonte-williams-feature-february-19-2020
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Trent was our best defender.
Plummer was not a good defender due to his size and agility, but he was a veteran player. He understood the scouting reports and his assignments.
Podz was completely lost.
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Just pretend with me guys
The only one that is pretending is you Baghdad Bob.
You are pretending that a 1st round NBA pick is worse than Damonte Williams.
What league is Damonte Williams playing in?
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Hahahaha, there’s “basketball stupid” and then there’s “if you rebound of course you’re a great perimeter defender”.
Legitimately the worst basketball take you’ve ever posted and that’s a mind-blowingly high bar.
You’re not a very smart person, Dom.
Go tell some NBA GMs that Damonte Williams is better than Podz
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Podz was completely lost.
And a year later a 1st round draft pick.
The only one that was lost was Underwood.
You deserve him Nichi. Dude is a loser idiot and you deserve the losses that come with him.
Anyone defending this bullshit that a guy can go from 5 minutes a game “completely lost”, to being a 1st round NBA pick is brain dead.
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Podz goes 1st round to GS. It happens to every big program but what a colossal whiff.
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"think of all the upper class bigs who weren't drafted-- Adama Sanogo of UConn, Azuolas Tubelis of Arizona, Oscar Tshiebwe of Kentucky and Drew Timme of Gonzaga- ..."
https://twitter.com/HoopsWeiss/status/1672104438725500928?s=20
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Podz goes 1st round to GS. It happens to every big program but what a colossal whiff.
wow I am shocked to say the least
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"think of all the upper class bigs who weren't drafted-- Adama Sanogo of UConn, Azuolas Tubelis of Arizona, Oscar Tshiebwe of Kentucky and Drew Timme of Gonzaga- ..."
https://twitter.com/HoopsWeiss/status/1672104438725500928?s=20
kind of crazy how none of those guys got drafted at all, you'd think a guy like Tshiewebe would have a shot at least, same with Timme
the change of the game from big dominant forwards and centers to rangy guys that can chuck 3's is certainly... something... although the last few MVP's were big guys so maybe these guys all just suck? Idk
Sanogo apparently got picked up by the bulls
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Sanogo apparently got picked up by the bulls
Think this is a very underrated pick up.
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Couldn't be more thrilled for Podziemski. Made a big, risky bet on himself and it paid off. What a story. Hope he has a ton of success there - learning under Nash and Curry should be great for him.
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There's so many guys now who are 6-10+ and can be effective at the perimeter that the value of a heavier 6-9/6-10 post is just not there anymore no matter how dominant in college. You have to have Bam Adebayo's athleticism or it's off to the 2nd tier leagues.
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Couldn't be more thrilled for Podziemski. Made a big, risky bet on himself and it paid off. What a story. Hope he has a ton of success there - learning under Nash and Curry should be great for him.
Yup. Seems like an ideal set up for him with HOFs around him and limited pressure in his first year.
Should also be a huge selling point for schools like St Mary's poaching reserve players at big conference schools.
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Yep. Surely Podziemski isn't the only guy around who could show out if he's given the chance to shoot 15 times a game. And realistically even if he'd stayed four years and played a ton, he was probably not going to get that at Illinois.
We've had one guy shoot as much as Podziemski did this year since 97-98 - Ayo in his All American year.
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Speaking which, Tevian Jones had reportedly signed an Exhibit 10 deal with the Pelicans after being the go-to scorer at Southern Utah.
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One thing about NIL and the pass for transfers is everybody thought it’d hurt the small schools. It appears that they now have a path to sell kids with opportunities like what Podz and Jones got. This stuff all tends to work itself out…
Might work well for Curbelo too…
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Yep. Surely Podziemski isn't the only guy around who could show out if he's given the chance to shoot 15 times a game. And realistically even if he'd stayed four years and played a ton, he was probably not going to get that at Illinois.
We've had one guy shoot as much as Podziemski did this year since 97-98 - Ayo in his All American year.
The kid shot 44% from 3 with 2.5 makes a game. He should have been out there shooting threes for us his freshman year especially during all those Underwood shooting droughts and brick fests that we've seen.
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The kid shot 44% from 3 with 2.5 makes a game. He should have been out there shooting threes for us his freshman year especially during all those Underwood shooting droughts and brick fests that we've seen.
If he would've actually made the threes he got when he played he probably would've. But he shot 23% on his attempts here.
I don't remember very many people here clamoring for Podziemski to get a bunch of minutes over Melendez, who was playing really well, in a year we won the conference on the final play of the season. Hindsight's 20/20.
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Podz goes 1st round to GS. It happens to every big program but what a colossal whiff.
I think something that hasn't been discussed is that who knows if Podz would have ever grown as a player or even displayed any kind of inkling as far as what he did at Santa Clara if he had stayed under BU and his coaching/constant ranting style?
Not saying BU style is right or wrong...I have my thoughts on it though....but if he is rough/hard nosed/in your face all the time relentlessly, some players just don't respond. I think this is one reason he wants to get old and stay old, older mature players "know" how to handle the pressures.
Podz just picked up basketball because he thought baseball was boring and took the challenge. His interest level possibly didn't align with having to submit to a regimen like BU was expecting...he just wanted to ball in other words, which is what Santa Clara provided him.
Either way it is old news, good for the kid, hope he flourishes and Kerr is the type that can make it happen imo. Just keep Green away from him....LOL.
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The kid shot 44% from 3 with 2.5 makes a game. He should have been out there shooting threes for us his freshman year especially during all those Underwood shooting droughts and brick fests that we've seen.
Woah, a Beach Bum sighting. Welcome back. I think.....
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Flagler undrafted
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Woah, a Beach Bum sighting. Welcome back. I think.....
Not much to talk about lately until the draft.