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Title: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 20, 2023, 04:50:20 AM
Have no idea what’s going on with the Bears thread. Anyway:

Provided he’s not a trouble maker and has a clean(ish) driving record I’d be cool with bringing in Clowney.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 20, 2023, 06:09:33 AM
On second thought, make it a perfect driving record. Wouldn’t want to take any chances.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 20, 2023, 10:12:22 AM
There’s no way they were getting a 1 (especially next year) out of the Texans.

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2023/03/20/bears-mulled-trading-down-with-texans-from-1-to-2-then-trading-down-again-with-panthers/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 20, 2023, 11:48:35 AM
Have no idea what’s going on with the Bears thread. Anyway:

Provided he’s not a trouble maker and has a clean(ish) driving record I’d be cool with bringing in Clowney.

the one directly below this one?

(https://i.imgur.com/C0hBjL2.png)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 20, 2023, 11:52:15 AM
the one directly below this one?

(https://i.imgur.com/C0hBjL2.png)

Seems to be locked.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 20, 2023, 11:53:37 AM
Well, it was anyway.

Just figured I’d start a new one and move on from that abortion of a thread which I’m sure has 150 pages of Justin Fields arguments.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ILLove1997 on March 20, 2023, 12:10:31 PM
Seems to be locked.

you the thread starter can lock or unlock it I believe
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on March 20, 2023, 01:33:32 PM
you the thread starter can lock or unlock it I believe

He probably locked it on accident.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 20, 2023, 01:46:29 PM
He probably locked it on accident.
But he asked, in the pinned thread, how and why it got pinned. Then posted again in the same thread.

And he probably under estimated the number of Fields pages.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on March 20, 2023, 01:55:06 PM
The thread was locked somehow and I unlocked it. Probably should have just deleted it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on March 20, 2023, 02:35:02 PM
He probably locked it on accident.

Too bad Robb was not here to accuse him of being drunk, again.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 20, 2023, 10:32:50 PM
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/ryan-poles-took-a-slight-dig-at-ryan-pace-in-new-interview/?fbclid=IwAR03aP4p8JNSa_ElGgnueMFETj93QzpdnCoL9qS0Ega19zuzK02gdkJaCP0&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 21, 2023, 06:38:33 AM
Bears most improved team per one data analysis.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-most-improved-nfl-team-after-free-agency-one-data-analysis?fbclid=IwAR2t73sY9037hs0p78KVorp5yJ7wX1PvVTihIMCiJOXWHSEgj-BiRxVOrHQ&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#lfi6m2to06jr5w3yx8t
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 21, 2023, 07:40:57 AM
I’ve been a “wait and see” on the Lions, but they’re having a pretty good off season. Thinking there’s a really good chance they take Jalen Carter at 6.

Not sure if I mentioned this, but a week ago the Bears were considered the 2nd choice to win the NFC North next year (basically tied with Minnesota). Lions are preseason favorites. Still not sure I’m buying into Dan Campbell.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 21, 2023, 09:25:30 PM
It’s not Colin Cowherd, but it’ll have to do.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJS3FPIyvr4
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 22, 2023, 08:20:17 AM
PAMan’s guy EQ St. Brown says Bears are going worst to first.

http://nbcchi.com/PjqI1vM?fbclid=IwAR2NAsEML-YG2ap7hmQkTJZQyNHXykHBK0yQzThZ3A54ltZ3aCXsNv6Cmb4&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on March 22, 2023, 08:29:08 AM
The morning wood goes "boing."
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on March 22, 2023, 08:46:21 AM
Well, if EQ said it, we can book it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 22, 2023, 09:07:40 AM
Well, if EQ said it, we can book it.

Hopefully his predictions are more reliable than his hands on 4th down.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 22, 2023, 03:08:30 PM
It’s not Colin Cowherd, but I hope you find it interesting.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/bears-become-bettors-darlings
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 23, 2023, 10:09:52 AM
Bears sign another Titan, Dylan Cole. Athletic LB who started 8 games last year and will almost certainly be a special teams core member. One year deal.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on March 23, 2023, 10:12:33 AM
Besides the draft, I think a lot of stuff is gonna be one-year deals to fill in for this year and then roll all that cal space into next year where Poles will finish the rebuild.

Next year will be much better and a clearer picture of what’s left to be needed long-term after this year plays out.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 23, 2023, 10:19:24 AM
Besides the draft, I think a lot of stuff is gonna be one-year deals to fill in for this year and then roll all that cal space into next year where Poles will finish the rebuild.

Next year will be much better and a clearer picture of what’s left to be needed long-term after this year plays out.

Yeah, minus the draft we should be seeing a lot 1 year deals coming. Still a lot of holes to fill, and can’t fill the entire roster with long-term players in one year. 
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on March 23, 2023, 10:27:37 AM
Yeah, minus the draft we should be seeing a lot 1 year deals coming. Still a lot of holes to fill, and can’t fill the entire roster with long-term players in one year.

Plus the draft and free agency next year should be pretty good. This was kind of a shitty year for both.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on March 24, 2023, 03:39:31 PM
Never understood why the Bears never went after him… especially on a cheap one year deal.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35932937/panthers-agree-deal-wr-dj-chark
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 24, 2023, 05:30:00 PM
Never understood why the Bears never went after him… especially on a cheap one year deal.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35932937/panthers-agree-deal-wr-dj-chark

Agreed. If he could be had on a one year deal he’d have helped put this WR corps over the top.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on March 24, 2023, 06:38:42 PM
Agreed. If he could be had on a one year deal he’d have helped put this WR corps over the top.

Huge red zone target too.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 24, 2023, 08:21:12 PM
Huge red zone target too.

Would have been a shit ton of speed in 4 receiver sets.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 26, 2023, 09:31:18 AM
I feel like this was written especially for PAMan. Lol

[On top of that, when workout videos do get posted featuring the Bears quarterback, they aren’t often showing off some monstrous squat or a personal record on the deadlift.]

https://dawindycity.com/2023/03/25/chicago-bears-justin-fields-workout-video/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on March 26, 2023, 07:28:47 PM
https://dawindycity.com/2023/03/25/chicago-bears-justin-fields-workout-video/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 26, 2023, 08:04:23 PM
https://dawindycity.com/2023/03/25/chicago-bears-justin-fields-workout-video/

You re-posted what I posted in the previous post.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on March 27, 2023, 07:16:37 AM
You re-posted what I posted in the previous post.

Didn't want it to get lost in your daily posting of articles.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 27, 2023, 08:37:11 PM
Andy Reid forgets who Jordan Love is.

https://twitter.com/lukasreichelszn/status/1640401784882511873?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 28, 2023, 08:52:28 AM
The Chicago Bears are doing every right. Or…the Chicago Bears are doing everything right?

https://youtu.be/gIiGLlj9ixg
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 28, 2023, 09:04:15 AM
Lol

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/lamar-jackson-trade-proposal-justin-fields-poles/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on March 28, 2023, 10:06:01 AM
Lol

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/lamar-jackson-trade-proposal-justin-fields-poles/

Bear should trade Fields for Jackson straight up.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 30, 2023, 07:00:33 PM
Bears could be forced to do Hard Knocks. I’d rather they didn’t do it this year. Want the focus to on getting better. Maybe next year if we’ve made some good strides.

https://atozsports.com/chicago/latest-statement-news-bears-gm-ryan-poles-news/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: John Wick on March 31, 2023, 10:09:38 AM
The Peterman lives! I might have to do something about this guy.

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/nathan-peterman-signing-rumors-walker-fields/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on March 31, 2023, 08:03:02 PM
Good Morning Football’s (GMFB) Kyle Brandt believes in JFC. Or as PAMan would say (GMFB), Give Me a Fucking Break.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/kyle-brandt-thinks-bears-justin-fields-will-be-absolute-maniac?fbclid=IwAR2JK9514eUvVvr_zdYdzRnHh_Lq-TVyWqHXZwI-rGz1srPhZa7PDDZMyzE&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 01, 2023, 04:49:21 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/Yqrh97rB/32-F216-F5-B40-F-4545-A85-A-D1-A7-F84-AAF38.png) (https://postimg.cc/QVzX4RKf)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on April 01, 2023, 04:54:56 PM
Har har
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Miles Leonard on April 04, 2023, 12:57:29 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4hwMR31/Untitled.png)

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on April 04, 2023, 07:58:33 AM
Huh.  Bears are supposed to have one of the easiest schedules in the league, and are being sent to Germany to play the Chiefs.

The NFL is a strange place.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 04, 2023, 11:44:46 AM
(https://i.postimg.cc/W4hwMR31/Untitled.png)

Feel like I heard that a couple months ago. TBH I think Parkins said that looked likely.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Danny Parkins on April 04, 2023, 02:02:51 PM
Feel like I heard that a couple months ago. TBH I think Parkins said that looked likely.

Oh yeah, I broke that news weeks ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 04, 2023, 10:32:28 PM
91% of Bears fans polled are confident franchise is moving in the right direction.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/4/4/23668899/chicago-bears-fans-are-confident-direction-of-the-franchise-justin-fields-ryan-poles-matt-eberflus
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Danny Parkins on April 05, 2023, 08:32:17 AM
91% of Bears fans polled are confident franchise is moving in the right direction.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/4/4/23668899/chicago-bears-fans-are-confident-direction-of-the-franchise-justin-fields-ryan-poles-matt-eberflus

I haven’t been this excited since Matt Nagy was hired!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 06, 2023, 02:44:15 PM
ThePAMan, this is for you and your mults.

The comments.
Lol.

https://twitter.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1643696758055391232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1643696758055391232%7Ctwgr%5E01be9b875e3b9bb42faaf1aee14d89edd164d1d4%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fathlonsports.com%2Fnfl%2Fnfc-nfl-quarterback-rankings-horrendous-dak-prescott
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 06, 2023, 03:49:41 PM
ThePAMan, this is for you and your mults.

The comments.
Lol.

https://twitter.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1643696758055391232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1643696758055391232%7Ctwgr%5E01be9b875e3b9bb42faaf1aee14d89edd164d1d4%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fathlonsports.com%2Fnfl%2Fnfc-nfl-quarterback-rankings-horrendous-dak-prescott

It appears I am not alone in the universe. Or I have even more mults than Tempo has.

Was this Custard's comment?

Quote
Is this site ran by wives who don’t watch football?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on April 06, 2023, 03:57:32 PM
Twitter is really dumb.  I'm getting real close to just deleting the app and saying fuck it.

It is still pretty good for porn tho.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on April 06, 2023, 04:07:48 PM
Twitter is really dumb.  I'm getting real close to just deleting the app and saying fuck it.

It is still pretty good for porn tho.

But we need updates regarding Uber issues…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on April 06, 2023, 04:13:52 PM
But we need updates regarding Uber issues…

Do we, tho?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on April 06, 2023, 04:20:15 PM
Do we, tho?

I enjoy them!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 06, 2023, 07:41:15 PM
ThePAMan, this is for you and your mults.

The comments.
Lol.

https://twitter.com/The33rdTeamFB/status/1643696758055391232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1643696758055391232%7Ctwgr%5E01be9b875e3b9bb42faaf1aee14d89edd164d1d4%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fathlonsports.com%2Fnfl%2Fnfc-nfl-quarterback-rankings-horrendous-dak-prescott

I saw that one. Thought about sharing it, but couldn’t take Brock Purdy as #4 seriously.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ILLove1997 on April 07, 2023, 01:33:57 AM
91% of Bears fans polled are confident franchise is moving in the right direction.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/4/4/23668899/chicago-bears-fans-are-confident-direction-of-the-franchise-justin-fields-ryan-poles-matt-eberflus

The right direction for #1 draft picks?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2023, 08:36:36 AM
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/04/06/cam-newton-would-back-up-bears-justin-fields/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2023, 01:21:27 PM
Not here’s a guy whose opinion we can trust!

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/video/hub-arkush-bears-fans-love-affair-justin-fields-overrated?amp
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on April 07, 2023, 06:34:37 PM
Least he has a pair of testicles, I assume.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2023, 06:55:59 PM
Least he has a pair of testicles, I assume.

That’s the rumor.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2023, 08:43:29 PM
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/4/7/23673724/billy-corgan-would-like-to-see-justin-fields-run-less-for-the-chicago-bears
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2023, 08:46:27 PM
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/4/7/23673724/billy-corgan-would-like-to-see-justin-fields-run-less-for-the-chicago-bears

LMAO
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2023, 08:58:44 PM
LMAO

I laughed too
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 07, 2023, 09:14:15 PM
I laughed too

At least he has a cock. We think.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 07, 2023, 09:15:17 PM
At least he has a cock. We think.

At this point, it is up for debate.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 10, 2023, 12:47:03 PM
I can’t believe Justin Fields is doing this silly little interview instead of watching film or doing squats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co58tYTRs20
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 10, 2023, 02:36:27 PM
I can’t believe Justin Fields is doing this silly little interview instead of watching film or doing squats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co58tYTRs20

Hopefully he can start reading defenses this year as well as he reads The Bible.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ILLove1997 on April 10, 2023, 08:26:17 PM
I can’t believe Justin Fields is doing this silly little interview instead of watching film or doing squats.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co58tYTRs20
well he's got a face for radio
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 13, 2023, 07:23:16 PM
https://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2023/04/13/bears-obscure-analytics-graph-absolutely-roasted-nfl-fans-reaction
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on April 16, 2023, 12:01:09 PM
Not quite squats ThePAMan, BUT…

https://twitter.com/nflnotify/status/1647597393691439104?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 16, 2023, 12:03:23 PM
Not quite squats ThePAMan, BUT…

https://twitter.com/nflnotify/status/1647597393691439104?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ

Good to see!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 16, 2023, 01:23:19 PM
Not quite squats ThePAMan, BUT…

https://twitter.com/nflnotify/status/1647597393691439104?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Good luck with top 5 when he's not even the best in the division.
Today's fishwrap ....
(https://i.ibb.co/7SnW2KD/Screenshot-20230416-132005-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/sgKwyq4)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 16, 2023, 05:05:41 PM
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/dalvin-cook-to-chicago-belief-is-the-opportunity-is-coming/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on April 16, 2023, 05:37:33 PM
I’d take Dalvin Cook in a heartbeat.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 16, 2023, 06:30:03 PM
I’d take Dalvin Cook in a heartbeat.

Even if he took carries away from the wing back?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 16, 2023, 06:51:55 PM
Even if he took carries away from the wing back?
The wingback doesn't call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 16, 2023, 10:16:41 PM
The wingback doesn't call the plays.

Imagine posting this and thinking it’s clever. Occasionally you hit, but generally you whiff.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 17, 2023, 06:49:52 AM
Imagine posting this and thinking it’s clever. Occasionally you hit, but generally you whiff.

It was funny, Tempo.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on April 17, 2023, 07:56:54 AM
It was funny, Tempo.

Agreed.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 17, 2023, 09:38:37 AM
It was funny, Tempo.

No it wasn’t.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 17, 2023, 10:32:27 AM
No it wasn’t.

Now it is even funnier.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 17, 2023, 01:06:30 PM
Sure thing!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 17, 2023, 03:56:14 PM
Take cover, Bears re-sign Dante Pettis.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/what-bears-re-signing-dante-pettis-means-roster-draft-plans-wr
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 17, 2023, 03:57:28 PM
Take cover, Bears re-sign Dante Pettis.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/what-bears-re-signing-dante-pettis-means-roster-draft-plans-wr

He does not block as well as some others on the team.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 17, 2023, 04:05:42 PM
Agreed.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 20, 2023, 10:19:30 AM
https://capitolfax.com/wp-mobile.php?p=57720&more=1

Bears bill is deader than a rock on a stump
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Dominic on April 24, 2023, 12:32:10 AM
This is my prediction for the 2023 Chicago Bears:

They will draft Stetson Bennett in the 5th or 6th round.

After Fields starts the year 2-7, there will be calls for Stetson Bennet to be Bears QB.  Tempo will cry “something something meathead, something something racism, etc”. 

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 24, 2023, 04:51:26 AM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 24, 2023, 07:51:40 AM
I have to admit I have laughed at the Stetson Bennet posts.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on April 24, 2023, 07:54:40 AM
I have to admit I have laughed at the Stetson Bennet posts.

I have enjoyed these as well.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 24, 2023, 08:02:46 AM
Settle down fellas, he's a systems qb. Lol.
It's good stuff tho.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on April 24, 2023, 09:08:39 AM
This is my prediction for the 2023 Chicago Bears:

They will draft Stetson Bennett in the 5th or 6th round.

After Fields starts the year 2-7, there will be calls for Stetson Bennet to be Bears QB.  Tempo will cry “something something meathead, something something racism, etc”.

First time I ever fully bought into something Truth said.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 24, 2023, 09:43:50 AM
First time I ever fully bought into something Truth said.

Perfect.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 25, 2023, 04:23:12 PM
I found this video both encouraging and hilarious at the same time.

https://youtu.be/qAR_Z6Aer3E
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 25, 2023, 08:50:07 PM
Written by a woman, so I don’t know how we could put any stock into this article; thought I’d share anyway.


https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/4/25/23698354/bears-are-cooking-with-quality-plans-poles-eberflus-fields-draft-bijan-laurence-holmes-warren
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on April 25, 2023, 09:23:41 PM
Meh. All women do is fluffer pieces.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2023, 03:03:07 AM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 26, 2023, 07:35:54 AM
And today's fishwrap, from a different writer, suggests the Vikings trade up to #11 to pick a previous top 4 pick Fla qb Richardson.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2023, 07:37:23 AM
And today's fishwrap, from a different writer, suggests the Vikings trade up to #11 to pick a previous top 4 pick Fla qb Richardson.

What is the gender of said writer?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 26, 2023, 07:47:31 AM
What is the gender of said writer?
The maybe they will but maybe they won't gender.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2023, 09:13:17 AM
Thoughts, PAMan?

https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1379476731015364614?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1379476731015364614%7Ctwgr%5E4ceca3d9e82a6e59970d3b06bf828202d37ecb2b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bleachernation.com%2Fbears%2F2023%2F04%2F04%2Fi-think-this-means-justin-fields-is-basically-a-genius%2F
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2023, 01:11:59 PM
Thoughts, PAMan?

https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1379476731015364614?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1379476731015364614%7Ctwgr%5E4ceca3d9e82a6e59970d3b06bf828202d37ecb2b%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bleachernation.com%2Fbears%2F2023%2F04%2F04%2Fi-think-this-means-justin-fields-is-basically-a-genius%2F

Who said anything about his work ethic? I have no clue. The reading of defenses has been a problem. Is a test on an iPad the same reading defenses and learning the playbook? Did he have Claypool yelling at him to throw the damn ball when he was taking the iPad test?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2023, 02:03:22 PM
lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 26, 2023, 02:03:59 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2023, 02:11:46 PM
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2023/04/26/chase-young-commanders-decline-option/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2023, 07:39:14 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_justin_fields_may_not_be_viewed_as_answer_in_chicago/s1_17081_38744642

More Hub reporting included. Also, there is this...

According to PFF metrics, Fields was the least productive QB in the NFL when he had complete protection from the offensive line and at least one wide receiver open. 
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 27, 2023, 08:12:19 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_justin_fields_may_not_be_viewed_as_answer_in_chicago/s1_17081_38744642

More Hub reporting included. Also, there is this...

According to PFF metrics, Fields was the least productive QB in the NFL when he had complete protection from the offensive line and at least one wide receiver open. 
Again, he doesn't call the plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 08:22:25 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_justin_fields_may_not_be_viewed_as_answer_in_chicago/s1_17081_38744642

More Hub reporting included. Also, there is this...

According to PFF metrics, Fields was the least productive QB in the NFL when he had complete protection from the offensive line and at least one wide receiver open.

It’s settled then. He’s terrible. With no chance to get better.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 08:29:12 AM
This comment made me chuckle pretty good.

(https://i.postimg.cc/hPx3ZQtg/BDF2-DFF4-48-F8-44-F0-8732-1-A526-B54-E2-BE.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 08:32:47 AM
“Not trying to stir up trouble, because there is no trouble.”

I’d love to hear Kmet’s response to this article.

(https://i.postimg.cc/6QBSv6wK/CD77252-E-79-B3-4-A57-BF32-5-B860-A41-F816.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 08:34:01 AM
Also, Cole Kmet sucked royally his first two years at a position that’s much easier than QB. So even if it’s true, I’m not sure he’s the one to be spearheading the Justin Fields doubt train.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on April 27, 2023, 08:37:04 AM
Every QB in the NFL obviously has the talent or they wouldn’t be there. The biggest difference between the good/greats and the bad/worst is their ability to process defenses and go through progressions quickly. Yeah, some aren’t as talented as others obviously, but they can make up for that with really knowing what they are doing and making the right play. Fields has the tools to do it, but does he have the ability to process that stuff?! It’s yet to be seen. I think he can, but will he?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 08:41:11 AM
Every QB in the NFL obviously has the talent or they wouldn’t be there. The biggest difference between the good/greats and the bad/worst is their ability to process defenses and go through progressions quickly. Yeah, some aren’t as talented as others obviously, but they can make up for that with really knowing what they are doing and making the right play. Fields had the tools to do it, but does he have the ability to process that stuff?! It’s yet to be seen. I think he can, but will he?!

It’s hopeless. PAMan has made the ruling.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2023, 01:13:35 PM
It’s hopeless. PAMan has made the ruling.

Yet, I'm the one looking for the He's Working His Ass Off During The Offseason stories. *Shrugs*
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 01:16:47 PM
Yet, I'm the one looking for the He's Working His Ass Off During The Offseason stories. *Shrugs*

I’m sure he’s sitting on the couch getting high, eating Doritos, and playing Call of Duty with Kyler Murray.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 01:17:25 PM
Yet, I'm the one looking for the He's Working His Ass Off During The Offseason stories. *Shrugs*

This is so unintentionally funny. Thank you.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2023, 01:25:34 PM
This is so unintentionally funny. Thank you.

Given that I've said it a few times,  I don't know why you find it funny
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 01:29:16 PM
Given that I've said it a few times,  I don't know why you find it funny

It’s funny every time, actually.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2023, 01:30:06 PM
It’s funny every time, actually.

You have a weird sense of humor, then
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 01:31:59 PM
You have a weird sense of humor, then

Yep. Because if we can’t find stories or videos of him watching film, it’s clearly not happening.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2023, 01:34:26 PM
Yep. Because if we can’t find stories or videos of him watching film, it’s clearly not happening.

Interesting logic
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 01:39:00 PM
You’re doing a bit, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2023, 01:46:55 PM
No
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on April 27, 2023, 01:46:56 PM
I’m sure he’s sitting on the couch getting high, eating Doritos, and playing Call of Duty with Kyler Murray.

You might be surprised but I’m sure a lot of players do exactly this…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2023, 02:30:58 PM
You might be surprised but I’m sure a lot of players do exactly this…

Gonna need to see film.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on April 27, 2023, 04:55:01 PM
Gonna need to see film.

Can’t find any…

Seems to be a trend…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 28, 2023, 08:50:44 PM
Love the Bears!

https://youtu.be/8clmLk_SeOA
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on April 30, 2023, 09:42:31 PM
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/4/30/23705755/nfl-draft-chicago-bears-ryan-poles-what-is-the-biggest-need-remaining-center-edge-defensive-end
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on April 30, 2023, 09:46:59 PM
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/4/30/23705755/nfl-draft-chicago-bears-ryan-poles-what-is-the-biggest-need-remaining-center-edge-defensive-end

If Whitehair says (as reported by Hamp) he has been told he is going to play C, why do they need a C?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 07:00:51 AM
If Whitehair says (as reported by Hamp) he has been told he is going to play C, why do they need a C?

I don’t think Whitehair is here next year. Would like to have had a young future starter learning the offense/ropes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 07:30:28 AM
I don’t think Whitehair is here next year. Would like to have had a young future starter learning the offense/ropes.

Bold take. If he is telling Dan Hampton that he is playing C, I'm thinking he is here (barring injury).
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 07:31:46 AM
I don’t think Whitehair is here next year. Would like to have had a young future starter learning the offense/ropes.

By next year do you mean 2023 (upcoming season) or 2024? Want to make sure on the same page here and I did not misinterpret.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 08:39:31 AM
Bold take. If he is telling Dan Hampton that he is playing C, I'm thinking he is here (barring injury).

I believe his contract runs out soon. I don’t think they are re-signing him.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 08:40:04 AM
By next year do you mean 2023 (upcoming season) or 2024? Want to make sure on the same page here and I did not misinterpret.

Next year. I think this is the last year on his deal. I could be wrong, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 08:45:11 AM
Meaning he is with the Bears this year. Next meaning 2024.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 09:17:29 AM
I looked up Whitehair’s contract and apparently he is signed through 2024. Seems a prime candidate to be a cap casualty next year, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 09:44:41 AM
Next year. I think this is the last year on his deal. I could be wrong, though.

Ok. Now I understand.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 10:31:41 AM
If they had Adebawore I think the front seven might have been (good?). I would not be surprised to see Poles make a trade for Chase Young. No real idea what it would take to get him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Deqx-Xb-yHY
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 10:32:08 AM
Haha wrong link. But I’ll leave that one there because it’s so good!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 10:33:21 AM
Here’s the link I meant to post.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/5/1/23704466/chicago-bears-back-7-on-defense-should-show-signs-of-significant-improvement-nfl-draft
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 10:39:45 AM
Tempo, Danny Mac has the Bear winning 9 or 10 games after the draft, the division sucking, and the favorable schedule.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 10:43:22 AM
Tempo, Danny Mac has the Bear winning 9 or 10 games after the draft, the division sucking, and the favorable schedule.

Not sure id bet anything significant on it, but I think it’s not that crazy.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 01, 2023, 11:41:28 AM
Here’s the link I meant to post.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/5/1/23704466/chicago-bears-back-7-on-defense-should-show-signs-of-significant-improvement-nfl-draft
This is about the back 7, not the front 7.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 12:22:47 PM
This is about the back 7, not the front 7.

Nothing gets by you.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 12:24:12 PM
My point was that if they had drafted Adebawore that there could have been significant optimism about the front 7 as well.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 12:28:08 PM
Dan weiderer was on the score, and Laurence Holmes asked him an interesting question that touches on my point about Wright last week. Did the Bears like Wright more than they didn’t like Jalen Carter. Said he couldn’t really say, but said the Bears were super impressed with the apparently brutal workout they put Wright through the day before Easter.

Also mentioned that Carter quit on his pro day work out and would have “tapped out” even earlier if Nolan Smith hadn’t been there pushing him to keep going.

Interesting stuff. I’d love to know their reasoning for having no interest in Adebawore.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 01, 2023, 12:32:59 PM
My point was that if they had drafted Adebawore that there could have been significant optimism about the front 7 as well.
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 12:37:15 PM
I’d love to have 3 talented rookies battling for playing time on the DL. I think the FA guys they signed are solid if not standout players.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 12:40:37 PM
How funny (and awesome) would it be if Roschon Johnson turns out to be the All-Pro RB for the Bears instead of Bijan Robinson? The “character” reviews for this guy are off the charts.

https://twitter.com/nickpenticoff/status/1653087955936854019?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 12:41:22 PM
Just wish he were faster.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 12:56:50 PM
Things I keep hearing about Bears’ draftees.

Size, athleticism, and drive/work ethic.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 01:16:38 PM
Haven’t read this yet, so not an endorsement.

https://allchgo.com/2023/04/30/examining-ryan-poles-vision-top-takeaways-from-the-chicago-bears-2023-draft-class/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 01, 2023, 01:36:09 PM
Things I keep hearing about Bears’ draftees.

Size, athleticism, and drive/work ethic.
Terms that people often use to describe short on talent.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 01:39:16 PM
Terms that people often use to describe short on talent.

Wouldn’t size/athleticism be a big part of “talent?”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 01:40:04 PM
Wouldn’t size/athleticism be a big part of “talent?”

Would Tony Mandarich say "Hello"?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 01:43:09 PM
Would Tony Mandarich say "Hello"?

Was he not “talented?” Im not sure why Tony Mandarich didn’t make it, but I don’t think it was lack of talent.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 01:44:58 PM
Maybe it was “50 painkillers a day and drinking.”

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Tony-Mandarich-Green-Bay-Packers-draft-bust-reason--131487234/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 01:46:18 PM
“Maybe it was 50 painkillers a day and drinking.”

https://247sports.com/nfl/green-bay-packers/Article/Tony-Mandarich-Green-Bay-Packers-draft-bust-reason--131487234/

Maybe "discipline," or "drive," is part of it too.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 01:51:12 PM
Add nastiness to the Bears’ player profile. Just about everyone they drafted plays with an “edge” to them (or so I’ve been hearing).
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 01, 2023, 02:04:18 PM
Maybe "discipline," or "drive," is part of it too.

See, passing on Carter…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 02:23:38 PM
https://www.chicitysports.com/green-bay-packers-unconfident-in-jordan-love/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 04:14:17 PM
Mark Grote brought up an interesting possibility on 670TheGOP. They signed Lucas Patrick for a reason, and that Cody Whitehair could be a possible cap cut as soon as this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 01, 2023, 04:16:04 PM
Wouldn’t size/athleticism be a big part of “talent?”
Those help but hands or knowing how to get separation for a receiver, vision for a rb, reading defenses for a qb etc separate players.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 04:23:36 PM
Those help but hands or knowing how to get separation for a receiver, vision for a rb, reading defenses for a qb etc separate players.

I could have all of that in spades and still not start for Ashland University.

But don’t go all PAMan on me and say “Tempo says intangibles don’t matter!”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 04:58:22 PM
DraftKings has put the Bears win total at 7.5. I think that’s a decent number. If forced to choose, I’d go over.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 05:11:19 PM
I could have all of that in spades and still not start for Ashland University.

But don’t go all PAMan on me and say “Tempo says intangibles don’t matter!”

Do you have eligibility? I think you could probably start for Ashland University.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 01, 2023, 06:16:15 PM
I could have all of that in spades and still not start for Ashland University.

But don’t go all PAMan on me and say “Tempo says intangibles don’t matter!”
You're a step too slow ?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 06:22:49 PM
Do you have eligibility? I think you could probably start for Ashland University.

I'm sure they could use my 6 flat 40.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 06:24:27 PM
You're a step too slow ?

I'll be 56 in June. Probably 3-5 steps too slow.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 06:30:10 PM
Not to mention about 12x more likely to pull a hamstring.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 06:37:07 PM
I'll be 56 in June. Probably 3-5 steps too slow.

Quality use of the meme.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 01, 2023, 06:51:48 PM
I'll be 56 in June. Probably 3-5 steps too slow.
Well done.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 07:59:20 PM
Quality use of the meme.

Yeah, was gonna say 5-6 but then realized I’d be wasting a Good opportunity.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 08:00:11 PM
Yeah, was gonna say 5-6 but then realized I’d be wasting a Good opportunity.

Any declined options today that they Bear may pick up?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 08:03:40 PM
Any declined options today that they Bear may pick up?

Haven’t seen anything. Pretty busy taking care of the pink eye kid, cleaning house, doing laundry since 3:00 or so.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 08:04:21 PM
Went through all his clothes and threw three garbage bags full of old clothes in the garage.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 08:18:34 PM
Just perused a list of declined options, a few interesting names but didn’t see anyone that would be an obvious fit for the Bears. A couple or cornerbacks that might have been had they not just drafted two that I think will be solid.

I’m about half convinced Poles is going to trade for Chase Young. Have no idea what the asking price would be. Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 01, 2023, 08:38:19 PM
Just perused a list of declined options, a few interesting names but didn’t see anyone that would be an obvious fit for the Bears. A couple or cornerbacks that might have been had they not just drafted two that I think will be solid.

I’m about half convinced Poles is going to trade for Chase Young. Have no idea what the asking price would be. Thoughts?

I don't follow the Washington Football Team, but hasn't Young missed a lot of games? They are declining his 5th year, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 09:06:09 PM
I don't follow the Washington Football Team, but hasn't Young missed a lot of games? They are declining his 5th year, right?

Yes. But if the price is right, worth a shot. Missed games might be enough to turn Poles off, though. Most of his draftees are guys who play every game. Would be crazy not to take a shot on him if the price is fair IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 09:10:41 PM
I would have given the 9th pick for Young and the 16th pick, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 11:14:02 PM
https://youtu.be/2gtm6-kz5TE
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 01, 2023, 11:16:39 PM
https://youtu.be/kTqZl4tyWLk
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 06:49:02 AM
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/chicago_bears_5_incredible_defensive_ends_to_target_in_post_draft_free_agency/s1_17081_38765449
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 06:53:29 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N15nmGwlTgQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 08:26:42 AM
https://youtu.be/saw3loWt2-I
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 02, 2023, 08:32:55 AM
I saw a link to a NY Post article about someone having a full body orgasm when she went to a concert and the orchestra was performing Tchaikovsky's 5th.
I wonder if highlight videos can do the same. 🤷
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 02, 2023, 09:09:41 AM
I saw a link to a NY Post article about someone having a full body orgasm when she went to a concert and the orchestra was performing Tchaikovsky's 5th.
I wonder if highlight videos can do the same. 🤷

Is this even a question?! Obviously…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on May 02, 2023, 10:40:41 AM
Tempo, quit posting pirated videos!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 01:39:08 PM
https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/5/2/23708078/chicago-bears-too-early-53-man-roster-projection-after-2023-nfl-draft-justin-fields-chase-claypool
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 04:51:43 PM
As far as PAMan and I are concerned there should have never been excuses! What was the right guard’s starting record?! Amirite?!

https://beargoggleson.com/posts/chicago-bears-excuses-justin-fields
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 02, 2023, 05:27:51 PM
As far as PAMan and I are concerned there should have never been excuses! What was the right guard’s starting record?! Amirite?!

https://beargoggleson.com/posts/chicago-bears-excuses-justin-fields

Correct. And what was the record of the centers?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 05:34:56 PM
Correct. And what was the record of the centers?

Who cares? ALL of the GLORY, or ALL of the BLAME goes to the QB, amirite?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 02, 2023, 05:53:23 PM
Who cares? ALL of the GLORY, or ALL of the BLAME goes to the QB, amirite?

Hmmmm. ALL CAPS means you are not serious.

All? No. The record, yes. For better or worse.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 02, 2023, 09:07:51 PM
Aaron Rodgers at the Knickerbocker game again instead of working on the new offensive terminology
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 09:32:15 PM
Aaron Rodgers at the Knickerbocker game again instead of working on the new offensive terminology

Heard he was jogging with McClain again today, too.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 09:33:17 PM
It concerns me that we do not have multiple write-ups or video of Justin Fields watching game tape.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 02, 2023, 10:00:57 PM
Heard he was jogging with McClain again today, too.

I wish I remembered the joke.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 02, 2023, 10:01:46 PM
It concerns me that we do not have multiple write-ups or video of Justin Fields watching game tape.

I had expected such puff pieces in the offseason
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 10:04:53 PM
I wish I remembered the joke.

It always gave me a chuckle.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 02, 2023, 10:05:24 PM
I had expected such puff pieces in the offseason

Didn’t figure you for a puff piece guy.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 03, 2023, 12:34:35 AM
What does Rodgers squat?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 03, 2023, 03:34:55 AM
What does Rodgers squat?

That…is a really great question.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 03, 2023, 03:45:01 AM
Kenny Pickett shotgunning beers at concerts instead of doing squats or watching film? Not the path to getting better…

https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/05/01/crowd-goes-berserk-when-luke-combs-invites-pittsburgh-steelers-quarterback-kenny-pickett-to-shotgun-a-beer/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 03, 2023, 06:39:05 AM
PAMan: “I expect Justin Fields to pull it together, and take the Bear to the Super Bowl.”

Tempo34: “Now that Justin Fields has more help, I’m optimistic he’ll be improved.”

HQ: “Jesus, why is Tempo such a JFC homer?!”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 03, 2023, 07:35:10 AM
Didn’t figure you for a puff piece guy.

I'm not. Just another expectation that has fallen short.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 03, 2023, 07:35:46 AM
Kenny Pickett shotgunning beers at concerts instead of doing squats or watching film? Not the path to getting better…

https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/05/01/crowd-goes-berserk-when-luke-combs-invites-pittsburgh-steelers-quarterback-kenny-pickett-to-shotgun-a-beer/

Definitely not. Good thing he is not the Bear QB.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 03, 2023, 07:51:34 AM
PAMan: “I expect Justin Fields to pull it together, and take the Bear to the Super Bowl.”

Tempo34: “Now that Justin Fields has more help, I’m optimistic he’ll be improved.”

HQ: “Jesus, why is Tempo such a JFC homer?!”

I don't believe you are a "homer," if that helps. You can be critical when you want to be. We saw that during the draft.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 03, 2023, 08:21:23 AM
I'm not. Just another expectation that has fallen short.
I expect that this argument won't satisfy your expectations, but then again it just may.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Dominic on May 03, 2023, 01:23:43 PM
Kenny Pickett shotgunning beers at concerts instead of doing squats or watching film? Not the path to getting better…

https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2023/05/01/crowd-goes-berserk-when-luke-combs-invites-pittsburgh-steelers-quarterback-kenny-pickett-to-shotgun-a-beer/

Pickett is listed at 6’3 220 and he looks small compared to Luke Combs.  I knew Luke was a big boy but they must be lying about Pickett’s size
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 03, 2023, 01:40:11 PM
Pickett is listed at 6’3 220 and he looks small compared to Luke Combs.  I knew Luke was a big boy but they must be lying about Pickett’s size

I just googled Luke combs and it said he’s 5’8 198 lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 03, 2023, 02:08:52 PM
Aaron Rodgers at the Knickerbocker game again instead of working on the new offensive terminology

Mike Florio had a good theory for this one 670TheGOP today et. He’s trying to ingratiate himself to NY fans and put "some money in the bank,” for when things go south. Makes sense.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 03, 2023, 02:16:09 PM
Mike Florio had a good theory for this one 670TheGOP today et. He’s trying to ingratiate himself to NY fans and put "some money in the bank,” for when things go south. Makes sense.

A. "670theGOP" is awesome. Well done.

B. That theory makes sense in an Aaron Rodgers' world.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 05, 2023, 01:12:58 PM
Wright better be good, and fast. He’s apparently putting himself in the HOF 1st ballot already.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/darnell-wright-envisions-hall-fame-career-justin-fields-security
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 05, 2023, 01:32:41 PM
What’s the right answer when someone asks a player their expectations for their career?  “I hope I can be a starter someday” sure isn’t it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 05, 2023, 01:35:23 PM
What’s the right answer when someone asks a player their expectations for their career?  “I hope I can be a starter someday” sure isn’t it.

“I just want to help my team win, and  be the best version of myself I can be.”

I mean, it’s not a big deal, but “I’m a first ballot HOFer” seems a bit over the top for a guy who hasn’t even been to camp. Again, no big deal. Just hope he doesn’t have a rough rookie year and then get reminded of this.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 05, 2023, 03:04:06 PM
It's kind of a no-win situation for a kid.  Basically any answer to "how do you envision your career going?" is going to get criticized.

Either he's full of himself, or he has no ambition.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 05, 2023, 03:08:22 PM
It's kind of a no-win situation for a kid.  Basically any answer to "how do you envision your career going?" is going to get criticized.

Either he's full of himself, or he has no ambition.

It’s not a big deal. If I were his dad I’d maybe just tell him to try to be a little more humble in front of reporters. Less ammo in case he gets off to a rough start.

Again, not a big deal at all, but just a little weird to hear a kid induct himself into the HOF a few days after getting drafted.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 05, 2023, 03:55:37 PM
I suspect self-assuredness is one of the reasons the Bears were interested in him to begin with.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 05, 2023, 05:14:39 PM
Will Levis was apparently pretty self-assured, too. As I said, it’s not a big deal. Just rather he’d ease it back a hair. On the scale of faux pas’ this one barely registers.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 05, 2023, 05:20:18 PM
Thought experiment:

if the Bears had drafted Jalen Carter and he'd said it would you feel the same way about it?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 05, 2023, 05:30:59 PM
Thought experiment:

if the Bears had drafted Jalen Carter and he'd said it would you feel the same way about it?

Even moreso. Get in game shape first.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 05, 2023, 05:40:37 PM
After the offseason he’s had, I don’t think Carter is on a position to be talking big. If anyone needs to be humble, it’s him.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 06, 2023, 11:16:54 AM
PAMan was looking for puff pieces, here’s something.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T3wQS5Dw/5-BDDABE0-73-A5-4-C04-8-FC1-F90-F6-CDE99-CD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPgmvxKs)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 06, 2023, 11:19:39 AM
Some definite tinder for the fire here lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/WtRjKc9p/65-ED7213-E82-C-4662-B2-D4-F62-EC1919-A00.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5Bgh4b3)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 06, 2023, 11:22:28 AM
This is “unpossible!” We all know he’s the worst passer ever!

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJMR4kfx/6293-ED0-A-3374-4693-BBDD-8917-DC5-B65-BD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gwDSKRB6)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 06, 2023, 11:25:51 AM
Is the new “he mows his own lawn,” or “he drives a Camry?” Lol

https://twitter.com/deeksviewog/status/1654875053685633024?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 06, 2023, 11:32:27 AM
Makayla says PAMan is “delusional.” Thoughts, PAMan?

(https://i.postimg.cc/6pqSJmvC/B9-DC0-D99-BF75-48-A9-8-BB6-8-AB93-C8-B1-B2-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJy4X44N)pichost (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 06, 2023, 11:35:36 AM
This is “unpossible!” We all know he’s the worst passer ever!

(https://i.postimg.cc/XJMR4kfx/6293-ED0-A-3374-4693-BBDD-8917-DC5-B65-BD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gwDSKRB6)

He's good at running the ball
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 06, 2023, 11:36:50 AM
Makayla says PAMan is “delusional.” Thoughts, PAMan?

(https://i.postimg.cc/6pqSJmvC/B9-DC0-D99-BF75-48-A9-8-BB6-8-AB93-C8-B1-B2-B.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/VJy4X44N)pichost (https://postimages.org/)

Who is Makayla? He/she may be right.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 06, 2023, 11:37:33 AM
PAMan was looking for puff pieces, here’s something.

(https://i.postimg.cc/T3wQS5Dw/5-BDDABE0-73-A5-4-C04-8-FC1-F90-F6-CDE99-CD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/PPgmvxKs)

Good to read
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 06, 2023, 12:08:32 PM
He's good at running the ball

Apparently he’s pretty accurate in the red zone, too. More accurate than Burrow.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 06, 2023, 12:08:55 PM
Who is Makayla? He/she may be right.

“May?”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 06, 2023, 12:56:40 PM
https://www.chicagobears.com/video/matt-eberflus-alan-williams-preview-rookie-minicamp-press-conference
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 06, 2023, 02:53:58 PM
“May?”

I didn't stutter, did I?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 07, 2023, 03:24:53 PM
Tempo, saw someone saying Mooney won't be ready for camp? What is the deal?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 07, 2023, 05:35:13 PM
Tempo, saw someone saying Mooney won't be ready for camp? What is the deal?

That kind of stinks. Thought I’d just read that he was doing well. Tyler Scott, your table is ready.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 07, 2023, 05:36:56 PM
That kind of stinks. Thought I’d just read that he was doing well. Tyler Scott, your table is ready.

It was a post somewhere with no link, so do not despair just yet.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 07, 2023, 05:39:18 PM
Why is Justin Fields out there graduating when he could be watching film and doing squats? Preferably he should watch film while he squats.

https://twitter.com/kellyannestitts/status/1655319346774790145?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 07, 2023, 05:41:11 PM
Why is Justin Fields out there graduating when he could be watching film and doing squats? Preferably he should watch film while he squats.

https://twitter.com/kellyannestitts/status/1655319346774790145?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Hopefully he was watching game film on his phone during the boring speeches.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 07, 2023, 07:27:22 PM
That kind of stinks. Thought I’d just read that he was doing well. Tyler Scott, your table is ready.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/report_bears_give_disappointing_injury_update_on_darnell_mooney/s1_17081_38785511
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 08, 2023, 11:49:30 AM
Laurence Holmes currently has two women on with him talking football. What a joke! Might as well talk football with my 8 year old. He doesn’t know who Aaron Rodgers is, but I’m sure he knows more than these two women. He has a penis, so how could he not?! Laurence says they’re going to get into Xs and Os next segment. Should be a real knee slapper, amirite?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 08, 2023, 12:27:33 PM
Laurence Holmes currently has two women on with him talking football. What a joke! Might as well talk football with my 8 year old. He doesn’t know who Aaron Rodgers is, but I’m sure he knows more than these two women. He has a penis, so how could he not?! Laurence says they’re going to get into Xs and Os next segment. Should be a real knee slapper, amirite?!

You are assuming a lot about Laurence Holmes.

I did like him on the Bear post-game show on Sox/Bull/Hawk network.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 08, 2023, 12:48:11 PM
For ThePAMan.

https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1654541722553131009?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 08, 2023, 12:52:38 PM
For ThePAMan.

https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1654541722553131009?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I hate to barge in, but read the comments.
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 08, 2023, 01:25:30 PM
For ThePAMan.

https://twitter.com/nfl_dovkleiman/status/1654541722553131009?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Awesome to read!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 08, 2023, 01:28:50 PM
I hate to barge in, but read the comments.
Lol

I should NOT have read the comments....LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 08, 2023, 01:42:33 PM
Oh god please tell me the girls didn’t talk X’s and O’s

Player interviews and sideline updates I can live with, but X’s and O’s? Nah get back in the kitchen and leave that discussion to the men.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 08, 2023, 04:12:14 PM
Oh god please tell me the girls didn’t talk X’s and O’s

Player interviews and sideline updates I can live with, but X’s and O’s? Nah get back in the kitchen and leave that discussion to the men.

Obviously!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 08, 2023, 04:17:53 PM
I hate to barge in, but read the comments.
Lol

Which one was yours? Or most accurately represents your position?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 08, 2023, 06:26:04 PM
Why is Eberflus going to a Luke Combs concert with players? He should be teaching them terminology while they work on squats.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-attend-chicago-luke-combs-concert-soldier-field
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 08, 2023, 07:40:07 PM
Why is Eberflus going to a Luke Combs concert with players? He should be teaching them terminology while they work on squats.

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-attend-chicago-luke-combs-concert-soldier-field

You should be asking why he loves that fake cowboy music.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 08, 2023, 08:35:42 PM
Maybe the Bear can get Matt Arazia, as it appears Dan Bernstein, Tempo, and The Twitter Crowd were a bit premature in declaring him guilty.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 08, 2023, 09:00:50 PM
Maybe the Bear can get Matt Arazia, as it appears Dan Bernstein, Tempo, and The Twitter Crowd were a bit premature in declaring him guilty.

I don’t know who that is, or what he allegedly did.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 08, 2023, 09:05:55 PM
I don’t know who that is, or what he allegedly did.

Mr. The Twitter and The 670theGOP doesn't know of the Bill 4th round draft pick punter who was released last year over fake sexual assault claims?

Check that, 6th round draft pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 08, 2023, 09:26:24 PM
Which one was yours? Or most accurately represents your position?
I don't post on the Twitter.
The season is over. We'll see what happens next year, but missing receivers by a foot instead of 2 feet is improvement.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 08, 2023, 09:28:08 PM
I don't post on the Twitter.
The season is over. We'll see what happens next year, but missing receivers by a foot instead of 2 feet is improvement.

Would that qualify as "light years" better, though?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 08, 2023, 09:37:13 PM
Would that qualify as "light years" better, though?
Didn't he miss the 6'4" Claypool in the flat by about 4 ? And over his head.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 06:23:20 AM
Mr. The Twitter and The 670theGOP doesn't know of the Bill 4th round draft pick punter who was released last year over fake sexual assault claims?

Check that, 6th round draft pick.

I’d heard about it. Didn’t remember his name.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 08:47:00 AM
Some definite tinder for the fire here lol

(https://i.postimg.cc/WtRjKc9p/65-ED7213-E82-C-4662-B2-D4-F62-EC1919-A00.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/p5Bgh4b3)

I assume all the other GMs in front will be remembered as the guy who let Carter go for nothing?

Why would Poles in particular take heat?  He's the only guy who actually got something for not taking him, everybody else let him fall for free.  Would it really have been better if, like the other GMs in front of him, Poles had just taken his guy and let Carter fall for free? Pure meathead nonsense.

I can't lie, this seems a bit like trying to undercut a guy who had a better offseason than most GMs..
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 08:48:07 AM
Dan Orlovsky says he expects Fields to be in the MVP discussion this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 09:23:27 AM
Dan Orlovsky says he expects Fields to be in the MVP discussion this year.

Dan Orlovsky is not a PAMan approved evaluator.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 09:25:21 AM
Dan Orlovsky says he expects Fields to be in the MVP discussion this year.

Fields is tied with Aaron Rodgers for 10th favorite. It’s entirely plausible. After Fields and Rodgers the odds drop considerably. So they are fringy among the early front-runners.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 09:48:20 AM
I assume all the other GMs in front will be remembered as the guy who let Carter go for nothing?

Why would Poles in particular take heat?  He's the only guy who actually got something for not taking him, everybody else let him fall for free.  Would it really have been better if, like the other GMs in front of him, Poles had just taken his guy and let Carter fall for free? Pure meathead nonsense.

I can't lie, this seems a bit like trying to undercut a guy who had a better offseason than most GMs..

To be expected in this day and age where Hot Take is King.

I think Poles has had an excellent offseason. A couple of minor quibbles maybe, but I’m not at all unhappy.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 09:52:41 AM
Dan Orlovsky is not a PAMan approved evaluator.

While this sounds like a joke, it’s the actual truth. Orlovsky was one of the 20+ evaluators PAMan rejected last year when I was sharing Justin Fields evaluation.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 10:16:49 AM
https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/story/_/id/37464694/2023-nfl-draft-experts-debate-favorite-picks-best-rookie-classes-fantasy-value
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 10:20:18 AM
To be expected in this day and age where Hot Take is King.

I think Poles has had an excellent offseason. A couple of minor quibbles maybe, but I’m not at all unhappy.

It’s an exceedingly stupid take.  9 teams in a row passed on Carter.  8 of them did it for free, and one got something back for it.  To single out the one guy who actually got return for passing on Carter is self evidently dumb as fuck, even among the NFL take machine.

The notion that it’d have been better if, like the other 8 guys, Poles had just passed on him is not even worthy of as much discussion as we’ve done on it here.  Laughable take.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 10:30:01 AM
It’s an exceedingly stupid take.  9 teams in a row passed on Carter.  8 of them did it for free, and one got something back for it.  To single out the one guy who actually got return for passing on Carter is self evidently dumb as fuck, even among the NFL take machine.

The notion that it’d have been better if, like the other 8 guys, Poles had just passed on him is not even worthy of as much discussion as we’ve done on it here.  Laughable take.

Well, 1/3 of those teams needed a QB. Which is obviously the most valued position. A couple of others chose the best DE and CB in the draft (probably equally good and safer players). There were legitimate options in the top 7-8 picks. I think when Carter was there at 9 there was no doubt who the most talented player left in the draft was (and he was talent/need wise the most obvious fit for the Bears). Not saying this take wasn’t hot takey, it kind of is. But it’s not like Carter is Connor Bedard, the clear cut obvious choice everyone would take.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 10:38:49 AM
Carter was supposedly the #1 most talented player in the draft from the beginning, according to like everyone I read.  Was he not?  It was all anyone talked about before the draft - the easy top talent with off field character and work ethic issues.

So every single team in front of the Bears passed on the most talented guy for free.  Yes, they got the guys they wanted - but so did the Bears.  The Bears also got a 4th round pick for the honor, whereas all the teams in front of them just got their guy - and the only GM who got paid to take the guy he wanted is the only GM being criticized.

It's not 'hot takey', it's self evidently stupid as fuck.  One second of reasonable thought shows you that its beyond idiotic.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 10:47:03 AM
Well you’re flat out wrong on this one Spark. At least 3 QBs were going top 4, nothing was changing that. Anderson was deemed every bit Carter’s equal. He was probably the best/safest pick in the draft. And probably #1 on more boards. Once you get to Seattle then you can justify taking the best CB in the draft over a riskier Jalen Carter. It’s really only about 6 on down where you can start to apply this criticism. Raiders went with a guy nearly as highly regarded who has an incredibly high ceiling and not all the character concerns. ATL clearly was smoking from their own bong and going with the guy some felt was the best overall player in the draft (certainly offensively). They want to run the ball and then run it some more. If the Bears had had the first pick, and couldn’t have traded down they would have certainly taken Carter if not for the character concerns. There’s at least 4-5 other teams that weren’t picking a DT 1st regardless. They wanted QBs and Will Anderson.

It’s reasonably fair to label Poles as the guy who passed on Carter because of the more than obvious need/scheme fit/talent projection.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 10:49:31 AM
I'm shocked - SHOCKED! - that you're defending the most meatbally take to ever be uttered.

It's a horrendous take.  If Carter is some uber-talent, everyone who passed on him deserves criticism.  The team that got something to pass on him obviously deserves less under any circumstance than the teams that let him fall for free.

If he's not an uber-talent (which, despite the revisionist history he ABSOLUTELY has been sold as for a year or more, thus all the "if he's Warren Sapp where's the production?" discussions), well then obviously the Bears passing, getting the guy they actually wanted, and getting a pick for the honor is an even better move.

No matter the scenario, every team in the top-9 passed on him.  One of them got paid to do it.  That team is the one being criticized.  No way around that being stupid as fuck, sorry.

If Poles is the guy that let him go for a fourth rounder, the 8 guys in front of him are the guy who let him go for nothing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 10:50:50 AM
Half of those teams were not taking him regardless Spark. What do you not understand here? He’s not Connor Bedard.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 10:51:36 AM
Half of those teams were not taking him regardless Spark. What do you not understand here? He’s not Connor Bedard.

He was sold as a generational talent all year.  Let's not pretend he wasn't, please.  He was compared to Warren Sapp and Aaron Donald consistently.

ALL of those teams were not taking him regardless, including the Bears - obviously, since they all had the opportunity to take him and passed.  8 of them did it for free, one of them got a pick for it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 10:52:28 AM
Meaning he wasn’t the #1 prospect on everyone’s board. And he doesn’t play quarterback, which makes a big difference. Indy wasn’t taking him. Carolina wasn’t taking him. Houston probably wasn’t taking him.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 10:53:48 AM
Seattle wasn't taking him.  Arizona wasn't, Las Vegas wasn't.  Atlanta wasn't and Chicago wasn't.

One of those teams got paid not to take him.  The rest did it for free.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 10:57:14 AM
By the 9th pick he was clearly the best talent left. All of the other picks can be justified. Raiders went with extremely high upside/better character. Seattle went best CB in draft. Arizona chose to invest in Kyler Murray and try to salvage their investment in him.

By #9 Carter was far and away the most talented player and an obvious fit for the Bears talent/scheme wise. This isn’t controversial. You’re wrong on this one.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 10:58:50 AM
Atlanta passed on him because they are a losing organization. If you want to grill them, feel free.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 10:59:33 AM
He was, by all accounts, among the top 2-3 talents in the draft.  So by the 3rd or 4th pick, he was the most talented player left - if not the 1st pick.

EVERYONE passed on him and got the guy they wanted instead.  8 of them did it for free, 1 got paid.  To criticize the one guy who actually got something in return for him instead of the guys in front of him who did it for free is so self evidently stupid that fucking of course you buy it.

Meatball shit is like one of those fly zapper lights to you.  Drawn in so consistently by self evidently poor emotional logic.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:00:21 AM
Again, Carter wasn’t the “consensus” #1. He was certainly #1 on his share of boards, but at least 3 teams were passing on him even without the character concerns.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 11:00:42 AM
Atlanta passed on him because they are a losing organization. If you want to grill them, feel free.

8 teams passed on him.  If you want to say "there were one or two more talented players so those guys weren't passing" then fine, 6 teams passed on him.

All six got the guys they actually wanted Five did it for free.  One got paid to do it.  You're justifying criticizing the only guy who got paid to take the prospect he actually wanted.  It's fucking insanity on its face, the purest meatball NFL nonsense.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 11:03:01 AM
Again, Carter wasn’t the “consensus” #1. He was certainly #1 on his share of boards, but at least 3 teams were passing on him even without the character concerns.

Consensus top-3, absolutely.  Sold as the most talented prospect pretty much 100% of the time until the accident stuff came out.  Agree?


I love this revising history thing, it's hilarious.  It's a thin line you're trying to walk.  "He wasn't so talented that it didn't make sense for the first 8 teams to pass on him, but he's such a talent that the 9th team (who also didn't want him) getting paid to pass on him is worthy of criticism."

He's either an uber-talent, or he's not.  If he's an uber-talent, then the teams in front of the Bears are surely more worthy of criticism - they passed on him without even getting paid to do it!    That's the best case scenario for you, because if he's not an uber-talent, then getting paid to not take a guy you didn't even want is an even better move. Seems like your evaluation of his talent changes depending on which way you want to argue.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:03:33 AM
He was, by all accounts, among the top 2-3 talents in the draft.  So by the 3rd or 4th pick, he was the most talented player left - if not the 1st pick.

EVERYONE passed on him and got the guy they wanted instead.  8 of them did it for free, 1 got paid.  To criticize the one guy who actually got something in return for him instead of the guys in front of him who did it for free is so self evidently stupid that fucking of course you buy it.

Meatball shit is like one of those fly zapper lights to you.  Drawn in so consistently by self evidently poor emotional logic.

Again….at least 1/3 of the teams picking in front of the Bears were drafting a QB. Which is completely and utterly defensible. Then you start wading the talent/risk waters and things get murkier. By #9 there was zero question who the best talent left on the board was. If not for the character concerns he’s was the obvious choice/fit for the Bears (even more than other teams). I’m not going to argue this with you all day. You either understand this or you don’t.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:04:47 AM
No, I don’t agree. Will Anderson was #1 on more boards I would guess based on my recollection.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:07:13 AM
Consensus top-3, absolutely.  Sold as the most talented prospect pretty much 100% of the time until the accident stuff came out.  Agree?


I love this revising history thing, it's hilarious.  It's a thin line you're trying to walk.  "He wasn't so talented that it didn't make sense for the first 8 teams to pass on him, but he's such a talent that the 9th team (who also didn't want him) getting paid to pass on him is worthy of criticism."

He's either an uber-talent, or he's not.  If he's an uber-talent, then the teams in front of the Bears are surely more worthy of criticism - they passed on him without even getting paid to do it!    That's the best case scenario for you, because if he's not an uber-talent, then getting paid to not take a guy you didn't even want is an even better move. Seems like your evaluation of his talent changes depending on which way you want to argue.

About 4-5 “Uber talents” (non QBs) went before Carter as well. For the 3rd time, he’s not the Connor Bedard of this draft. No one was. That’s why a 5’10 QB went #1 and a QB who apparently can’t spell cat went #2.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 11:08:54 AM
Again….at least 1/3 of the teams picking in front of the Bears were drafting a QB. Which is completely and utterly defensible. Then you start wading the talent/risk waters and things get murkier. By #9 there was zero question who the best talent left on the board was. If not for the character concerns he’s was the obvious choice/fit for the Bears (even more than other teams). I’m not going to argue this with you all day. You either understand this or you don’t.


I understand it perfectly:  you're the same meatball you've always been, prone to obviously faulty logic to justify your emotional reactions.

If there was any question when the first pick was on the clock - which is certainly debatable - Carter was definitely considered the top talent left by pick #5 or 6.  Every one of those teams passed on him for free.  If Carter is a stud, every one of those GMs is far more worthy of criticism than Poles - and that's 'granting' your point about QBs and talented CB/DE.  They passed on Carter too, but didn't even get paid to do it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 11:10:37 AM
About 4-5 “Uber talents” (non QBs) went before Carter as well. For the 3rd time, he’s not the Connor Bedard of this draft. No one was. That’s why a 5’10 QB went #1 and a QB who apparently can’t spell cat went #2.

This narrative fully changed after the accident stuff came out, surely you're willing to acknowledge that?

EVERYONE said Carter was the easy top talent in this draft for a year or two before that came out.  Please don't pretend they didn't.  He was The Guy for a long time in this draft, until character concerns popped up.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:10:44 AM
If he was the runaway top prospect, he would have went higher. There were 7-8 players other teams felt had similar upside with less risk. After that, no one was particularly close.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 11:12:58 AM
If he was the runaway top prospect, he would have went higher. There were 7-8 players other teams felt had similar upside with less risk. After that, no one was particularly close.

Hahahahaha of course.

Everyone who went in front of him was more talented debatably, but the Bears pick wasn't.

The facts are:  The top-10 draft picks, the teams each got the guy they wanted with the pick.  The Bears managed to get their guy, AND get paid to do it, and you find that worthy of criticism.

Again:  prone to obviously faulty logic to justify your own emotional reaction.  Clear as day.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:13:18 AM
This narrative fully changed after the accident stuff came out, surely you're willing to acknowledge that?

EVERYONE said Carter was the easy top talent in this draft for a year or two before that came out.  Please don't pretend they didn't.  He was The Guy for a long time in this draft, until character concerns popped up.

What changed is his stock dropped. He was never going #1 nor was he considered the runaway top talent. He was certainly top 2-3 on most boards. He was never going in the top 2. Those two teams were always picking QB. And Indy was never taking him, as evidenced that they took a raw physical specimens at QB at 4.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 11:14:42 AM
What changed is his stock dropped. He was never going #1 nor was he considered the runaway top talent. He was certainly top 2-3 on most boards. He was never going in the top 2. Those two teams were always picking QB. And Indy was never taking him, as evidenced that they took a raw physical specimens at QB at 4.

Yes, his stock dropped.  Not because of his talent though, his stock dropped because of off field concerns.  Obviously there were 9 teams in the first 9 spots in the draft who, despite his talent, did not find him worth the risk.  One of those 10 got something in return (well, two, but the Lions' move is far more obviously worthy of criticism than Poles' move was), and that's the one you're criticizing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:14:47 AM
No, not EVERYONE. I saw Anderson ranked #1 most often, even before the accident. Certainly Carter was top 2-3 not considering QBs.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:15:20 AM
Yes, his stock dropped.  Not because of his talent though, his stock dropped because of off field concerns.  Obviously there were 9 teams in the first 9 spots in the draft who, despite his talent, did not find him worth the risk.  One of those 10 got something in return (well, two, but the Lions' move is far more obviously worthy of criticism than Poles' move was), and that's the one you're criticizing.

JFC have a good day.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 11:16:00 AM
You too, enjoy the Fazolis.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:19:35 AM
Carter’s stock started to drop (a little) even before the accident. You don’t remember all the “where the hell was Jalen Carter?” talk after the Ohio State game?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 11:22:52 AM
Again, Carter was clearly neck and neck with Anderson on draft boards. But he was never the unquestioned #1 player like a Bedard. Especially if you consider several teams in the top 5 were definitely going QB.

https://www.dawgnation.com/programs/on-the-beat-video/jalen-carter-ohio-state/Q2DC2BEBKREQHK5R7M3IG2AT6Y/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 09, 2023, 02:26:26 PM
Spark 1, Tempo 0.

Spark wins this debate.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 09, 2023, 02:28:09 PM
Spark 1, Tempo 0.

Spark wins this debate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZEIMQ42-oU
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 03:18:32 PM
Yeah, I don’t think so. A third of the teams (at least) were always passing on Carter. That’s why a 5’10 190 pound quarterback went #1.

If Carter was viewed as the Connor Bedard of the draft, he’d have a point. That was never the case, not even before the accident. Will Anderson was #1 on more boards.

So that means half of the first 8 teams were passing on him regardless.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 03:29:03 PM
Was Jalen Carter just as overwhelmingly the choice at 1 as he was at 9? That is a preposterous take.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 09, 2023, 03:31:26 PM
Was Jalen Carter just as overwhelmingly the choice at 1 as he was at 9? That is a preposterous take.

Nobody is saying that.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 03:47:13 PM
Nobody is saying that.

Spark is. He says 8 teams all “passed  on him too,” not taking need or risk into the equation.

Half of these teams at least were not taking Carter. Even before the accident.

The other half took the best player in the draft at their position with exception to the Raiders going with a guy thought to have as high of a ceiling as any player in the draft (without the character concerns).

Once Carter fell to 9 he was far and away the top talent left. Some people were saying Bijan Robinson was the best player in the draft, period. Once we were sitting at 9 with the Bears the obvious choice talent/scheme/need wise was Carter. The same can’t be said for all of the previous 8 teams.

Half of those teams weren’t taking him no matter what. So, yeah, putting more of the microscope on the Bears regarding Carter is reasonably fair. Some professional mockers had Carter to the Bears at 1 (before the trade). That was never going to be the case once Charlotte traded up. They didn’t trade to to draft Jalen Carter.

Two reasons this position doesn’t hold water:

1) Carter was never the CLEAR best player in the draft (though he was right there with Anderson)

2) At least 3 teams were going QB no matter what. From there it was just best player at a premium position and risk evaluation. That is a sliding table that has moved pretty considerably once you get to the 9th pick.

I’m guessing Seattle feels pretty good about their decision to take the best CB in the draft. And Arizona probably feels pretty good about trying to make sure Kyler Murray has every chance to resurrect his career by giving him a LT, the first one off the board. There were no “1st/best player at a premium position” left once we got to 9.

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 03:56:19 PM
So Spark is taking his “they didn’t want him” take he used to defend the Bears’ choice, and discarding that perspective for the first 8 teams of the draft. They didn’t want him. Why? Because they either needed a QB, by far the most important position in the NFL or took their top choice at premium position (DE, CB, LT). The two exceptions to that are the Raiders, who took a very high ceiling DL (who the Bears probably take if he is there), and the Falcons who drafted the best RB prospect in 5-10 years. The Falcons this year might end up making last years’ Bears look pass heavy…

Again, it’s a sliding table. And the table had slid considerably once we got to 9. A team that desperately wants a 3Tech for their defense. Not a quarterback, DE, or RB. Context matters here.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 03:57:01 PM
The Bears didn’t pass on Carter because of lack of need or talent.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 04:13:08 PM
So I think viewing Carter through the Bears’ microscope is reasonably fair, but can also be a bit “hot takey.” It can be both.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 04:16:04 PM
Should the Panthers, Texans, and Colts really be viewed on Jalen Carter in the same light as the Bears? That’s absurd. Again, he was not Connor Bedard, nor was he ever. QBs were always the priority up top.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 04:33:38 PM
Is there anyone here who would rank RT above QB, Edge/DL, CB, (or even generational RB) in terms of value to an NFL team?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 04:37:56 PM
But yeah, “everyone else passed on Jalen Carter, too” is indeed an “accurate” statement…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 09, 2023, 04:55:24 PM
Are you just arguing with yourself at this point, Tempo?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 05:02:12 PM
Are you just arguing with yourself at this point, Tempo?

Sit down, ankle biter.

Who deserves more of the microscope? Pete Carrol for taking a CB worthy of being a top 5 pick? Or Ryan Poles who took a RT instead of the dynamic 3Tech his defense woefully needs 4 picks later?

It really makes me laugh that you guys accuse me of lacking an understanding of “nuance.”

That’s not to say that what Poles did was “wrong…”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 09, 2023, 05:50:37 PM
Are you just arguing with yourself at this point, Tempo?
Yep. But he was right several pages ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 09, 2023, 05:52:45 PM
Oh look, Tempo’s misrepresenting my point again
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 06:27:45 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 06:28:26 PM
Oh look, Tempo’s misrepresenting my point again

What’s your point other than “everyone passed on the generational DT?”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 06:28:59 PM
Yep. But he was right several pages ago.

Speaking of ankle biting. You are their champion.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 06:34:38 PM

ALL of those teams were not taking him regardless, including the Bears - obviously, since they all had the opportunity to take him and passed.  8 of them did it for free, one of them got a pick for it.

Again, nice of you to notice that teams seeking a quarterback, or opting to take what they viewed as the best player in the draft at a premium position with the possible of exceptions of Vegas and ATL who clearly had valid reasons for taking who they took. Poles was the first guy to take a non-premium position, while passing on clearly the best player left at a position of dire need. Again, that’s not to say he was “wrong.” 

So what was your point again? That other teams didn’t basically “trade Jalen Carter for a draft pick?”

You can’t understand why Carter to the Bears at 9 made more sense than Carter to Indy at 4? Is this really your position?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 06:37:49 PM
You are (seemingly) arguing from a position that Carter was the overwhelming choice for best player. At 1, it was a debate. Especially pre-accident. At 9, he was far and away the best talent.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 06:40:28 PM
Early January, I’d venture to guess that 60-65% of mocks had Anderson as the #1 player. Probably 25% Carter, the rest Bryce Young.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 07:28:29 PM
If we’re operating from the viewpoint that Carter was head and shoulders the best player in the draft, Spark’s point would hold water. That just not the case. Even if there were no character issues, probably 10 teams in the league take a QB #1. The rest of the teams in the league are probably mostly split on Anderson and Carter. With probably a lean to Anderson due to consistency of play.

It’s absurd to view Chris Ballard at 4 or even Pete Carroll at 5 in the exact same vein as the Bears at 9.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 07:31:12 PM
Some people were saying Bijan Robinson was “the best player in the draft.” Once you got past Carter, no one was saying “Peter Skoronski is the best player in the draft.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 09, 2023, 08:05:06 PM
Looks like the short answer is "Yes."
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 08:07:44 PM
Looks like the short answer is "Yes."

I need to watch my ankles!

(https://i.postimg.cc/wvZ14X1C/B5-DF4096-E1-AB-4-C42-9-B58-71-B587492893.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/34jrdDC1)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 09, 2023, 08:36:21 PM
https://dawindycity.com/2023/05/08/chicago-bears-coaches-love-justin-fields-improvement/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 05:58:30 AM
https://www.bleachernation.com/bears/2023/05/09/look-the-first-projections-for-justin-fields-dj-moore-tremaine-edmunds-and-others-are-out/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 01:00:32 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/nate-tice-justin-fields-gives-bears-top-end-qb-situation-nfc
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 10, 2023, 01:10:25 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/nate-tice-justin-fields-gives-bears-top-end-qb-situation-nfc

Where is your schedule analysis?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 01:26:55 PM
Where is your schedule analysis?

My personal schedule analysis?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 10, 2023, 01:49:03 PM
My personal schedule analysis?

Bear Schedule Analysis. Formal release day is tomorrow?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 02:17:07 PM
I think we know who they’re playing and mostly where don’t we? Well divisional games, anyway. About all we’re learning I think are the dates.

Again, I’m a bit confused by “schedule analysis.” Whose?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 10, 2023, 03:08:30 PM
I think we know who they’re playing and mostly where don’t we? Well divisional games, anyway. About all we’re learning I think are the dates.

Again, I’m a bit confused by “schedule analysis.” Whose?

You. You guess the start times, what games may be flexed, etc.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 03:44:29 PM
You. You guess the start times, what games may be flexed, etc.

Why would I do that?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 10, 2023, 03:45:15 PM
Why would I do that?

In light of all the articles you post here, why not?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 03:50:10 PM
In light of all the articles you post here, why not?

Why would I waste time pondering schedule times and flex possibilities?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 10, 2023, 03:50:45 PM
Why would I waste time pondering schedule times and flex possibilities?

Is this a bit?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 03:50:58 PM
I waste enough time here and playing golf on my phone. That’s more than enough time wasting.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 10, 2023, 03:59:51 PM
TBF, you posted an article earlier today about ESPN's stat projections for the upcoming NFL season.  How would anyone know "analyzing the schedule" is where the line is drawn?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 05:33:19 PM
TBF, you posted an article earlier today about ESPN's stat projections for the upcoming NFL season.  How would anyone know "analyzing the schedule" is where the line is drawn?

It was someone else’s work. I just read it (quickly) and posted it. Why the fuck would I ponder start times and flex possibilities? In May, no less.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 10, 2023, 05:34:06 PM
Stats are a very different thing from start times. When the Bears play, I will likely be watching. That’s all I know.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 10, 2023, 10:01:38 PM
In May, no less.

You could say that about a few articles posted in this thread.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 09:21:11 AM
You could say that about a few articles posted in this thread.

We’re talking start times here. Literally the least important and interesting part of the season.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 11, 2023, 10:21:26 AM
It was someone else’s work. I just read it (quickly) and posted it. Why the fuck would I ponder start times and flex possibilities? In May, no less.

IDK, why would you care about ESPN's stat projections 4 months before the season starts?

Nobody knows why you ponder the things you do.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 11, 2023, 10:21:47 AM
Stats are a very different thing from start times. When the Bears play, I will likely be watching. That’s all I know.

Sure.  There were no real stats in the article, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 10:33:31 AM
IDK, why would you care about ESPN's stat projections 4 months before the season starts?

Nobody knows why you ponder the things you do.

Ponder? It was an article I perused. I don’t even recall what it said. Who on gods green earth gives a shit about start times (or would spend time trying to guess them) over stats in the age of analytics?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 10:35:14 AM
These aren’t “stats?”

Clay’s numbers have Fields going for 3,173 passing yards and 22 passing TDs to go along with 909 (!) rushing yards and 6 ground scores.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 10:36:14 AM
Here’s something for all of the start time geeks:

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-play-more-primetime-games-expected-nfl-vp
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 10:38:06 AM
Why would I spend 45 seconds perusing an article on Justin Fields’ stat projections instead of trying to guess start times? Why, we’ll never know…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 10:42:48 AM
45 seconds is probably an overestimation of how long I spent “pondering” that article.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 10:46:38 AM
We’re talking start times here. Literally the least important and interesting part of the season.

Bear record on Monday night has been historically bad, hasn't it?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 11, 2023, 10:47:50 AM
Ponder? It was an article I perused. I don’t even recall what it said. Who on gods green earth gives a shit about start times (or would spend time trying to guess them) over stats in the age of analytics?

Again, there were not stats in the article.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 10:48:20 AM
It was an article I perused. I don’t even recall what it said.

Wow.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 11:03:41 AM
Bear record on Monday night has been historically bad, hasn't it?

What they did on MNF 36 years ago doesn’t particularly hold a lot of weight with me. Same for quarterbacks who came out of Ohio State in 1997.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 11:05:15 AM
Wow.

Wow, what? Do you think everything I share is a full-throated endorsement?  Sometimes I just post things because I think someone might find it interesting, or it might spur discussion…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 11:06:06 AM
Again, there were not stats in the article.

Ok.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 11:11:39 AM
Call me crazy, but I’d consider 3,173 passing yards 22 TDs, 909 rushing yards 6 TDs “stats.” I don’t know what else you’d call them. Statistical projections? I realize the article doesn’t go in-depth, but they are most certainly “stats.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 11, 2023, 11:38:35 AM
Maybe they're expectations.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 11:52:28 AM
What they did on MNF 36 years ago doesn’t particularly hold a lot of weight with me. Same for quarterbacks who came out of Ohio State in 1997.

Wish both were true. Data does not compute though.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 11:53:24 AM
Wow, what? Do you think everything I share is a full-throated endorsement?  Sometimes I just post things because I think someone might find it interesting, or it might spur discussion…

What I got from it is that you read, maybe, the intro paragraph and that's it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 11:54:31 AM
Maybe they're expectations.

Hasn't been on the field yet as it is only May, but light years ahead.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 01:01:54 PM
I'd like to think closing the season out with the Packer (as the reports indicate) would be good for the Bear, but that would mean Love will have a full slate under his belt. Tempo?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 01:02:45 PM
Who do the Bear have coming off the bye? Eberlose cannot be beat when he has 2 weeks to coach them up. I hope it is the Lion or the Viking. Tempo?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 01:04:12 PM
https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/what-win-projections-say-about-bears-schedule-difficulty

I only read the subheadline.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 01:27:30 PM
Week 1: vs Green Bay
Week 5: AT Washington (TNF)
Week 6: vs Minnesota
Week 12: AT Minnesota (MNF)
Week 18: AT Green Bay 

Last week at Green Bay? TNF and MNF? Oh oh....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 11, 2023, 01:31:41 PM
Call me crazy, but I’d consider 3,173 passing yards 22 TDs, 909 rushing yards 6 TDs “stats.” I don’t know what else you’d call them. Statistical projections? I realize the article doesn’t go in-depth, but they are most certainly “stats.”

Stats are numbers that players earn, these are guesses from a computer algorithm.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 02:14:57 PM
Bear Panther TNF....Could help for the Caleb Williams Sweepstakes!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 02:15:38 PM
Really disappointed in Tempo's effort today with the schedule. Thought he would be all over it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 03:35:15 PM
Maybe they're expectations.

Expressed in stat form.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 03:36:00 PM
Really disappointed in Tempo's effort today with the schedule. Thought he would be all over it.

Really disappointed with your trolling effort today. Usually your troll game is better.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 03:37:40 PM
I'd like to think closing the season out with the Packer (as the reports indicate) would be good for the Bear, but that would mean Love will have a full slate under his belt. Tempo?

I’ll just wait until the actual schedule comes out to say what I think of it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 11, 2023, 03:38:42 PM
Expressed in stat form.
These are not statistics.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 03:39:03 PM
Who do the Bear have coming off the bye? Eberlose cannot be beat when he has 2 weeks to coach them up. I hope it is the Lion or the Viking. Tempo?

See above answer.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 03:42:12 PM
These are not statistics.

So let’s translate to baseball.

.305/35/110 aren’t statistics?

Everyone on planet earth accepts total yards, touchdowns as “stats.” I’ve never once in the 5 decades I’ve followed sports gear someone refer to actual measured production as “not a statistic.”

Go troll somewhere else.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 03:44:44 PM
Stats are numbers that players earn, these are guesses from a computer algorithm.

Ok, Mr. Technicality. Stat projections then…you got me. You got me real good there…JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 03:45:31 PM
As if I didn’t fucking know these weren’t his final numbers. GMAFB.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 11, 2023, 03:50:38 PM
Something happened between 3:38 and 3:45.
 :D
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 04:12:00 PM
Ok, Mr. Technicality. Stat projections then…you got me. You got me real good there…JFC

Which, I used the term “statistical projections” like two pages ago. But again, Spark wins on the most ludicrous of technicalities. Because you know, I thought the “stats” in this article were “official.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 04:36:42 PM
Which, I used the term “statistical projections” like two pages ago. But again, Spark wins on the most ludicrous of technicalities. Because you know, I thought the “stats” in this article were “official.”

Did Spark read your post and take your words at face value, using the common definitions of said words in the context they were used? 
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 04:37:22 PM
See above answer.

You don't believe this is important?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 05:06:04 PM
They must not be reading the articles posted here.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/there-is-a-reported-concern-about-justin-fields-around-the-league/ar-AA1aXItM?li=BBnb7Kz

Interestingly enough, with the draft now in the rearview for the Bears, a report has surfaced about teams around the league not being sold on Fields’ ability to be successful in the NFL as a pocket passer.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:07:03 PM
Lol

Thanks for the reminder.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:08:22 PM
Good to know the Cold Wire and MSN are PAMan approved Bears sources. I’ll make note.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 05:09:17 PM
Good to know the Cold Wire and MSN are PAMan approved Bears sources. I’ll make note.

I have zero clue how accurate it is. I post, you decide!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:11:30 PM
You don't believe this is important?

Important? Sure? Worth dissecting before we know what it is? No.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:12:30 PM
They must not be reading the articles posted here.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/there-is-a-reported-concern-about-justin-fields-around-the-league/ar-AA1aXItM?li=BBnb7Kz

Interestingly enough, with the draft now in the rearview for the Bears, a report has surfaced about teams around the league not being sold on Fields’ ability to be successful in the NFL as a pocket passer.

How weird is it that PAMan would quote the above comment but not this one.


“However, a member of the Bears organization told Fowler that Fields is one of the few NFL players that can "elevate an entire team."
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 05:13:57 PM
How weird is it that PAMan would quote the above comment but not this one.


“However, a member of the Bears organization told Fowler that Fields is one of the few NFL players that can "elevate an entire team."

I already had forgotten what I had read when posting it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:15:20 PM
Did Spark read your post and take your words at face value, using the common definitions of said words in the context they were used?

Are we really going to be so fucking combative and nitpick to the point of having to explain what was completely obvious. That these were statistical projections and not official stats? GMAFB. Talk about insufferable.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:16:43 PM
I already had forgotten what I had read when posting it.

Again, not everything I share/post is a full-throated endorsement. They are just here for discussion/entertainment purposes. Stop being insufferable. Although I know that’s a challenge for you.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 05:26:57 PM
Again, not everything I share/post is a full-throated endorsement. They are just here for discussion/entertainment purposes. Stop being insufferable. Although I know that’s a challenge for you.

Yet, if anyone else shares/posts something they are providing full-throated endorsement and not for discussion/entertainment purposes?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 05:28:09 PM
Are we really going to be so fucking combative and nitpick to the point of having to explain what was completely obvious. That these were statistical projections and not official stats? GMAFB. Talk about insufferable.

It is odd that it seemingly is a common occurrence in response to posts you make. Must just be a coincidence?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:33:21 PM
Yet, if anyone else shares/posts something they are providing full-throated endorsement and not for discussion/entertainment purposes?

Well, when they make sure to highlight very specific quotes that echo what they’ve been saying for 8 months; that would seem like an endorsement.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:34:45 PM
It is odd that it seemingly is a common occurrence in response to posts you make. Must just be a coincidence?

I’ll try and get better at explaining shit that’s already painfully obvious to anyone who’s not being a disingenuous schmuck. My bad.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 05:36:17 PM
Well, when they make sure to highlight very specific quotes that echo what they’ve been saying for 8 months; that would seem like an endorsement.

I prefer to add a quote. maybe 2, from the article. Figure people can decide if they want to read the rest.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 05:36:51 PM
I’ll try and get better at explaining shit that’s already painfully obvious to anyone who’s not being a disingenuous schmuck. My bad.

We could take a poll to ask posters what they make of this, if you like.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 05:41:04 PM
If you or Spark were under the assumption these were official stats instead of projected stats, I’d argue that’s on you, not me…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 06:43:30 PM
If you or Spark were under the assumption these were official stats instead of projected stats, I’d argue that’s on you, not me…

I didn't read it.  I just read the discussion about the actual meaning of the words you used in your posts and had a feeling of deja vu.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 11, 2023, 06:55:32 PM
I didn't read it.  I just read the discussion about the actual meaning of the words you used in your posts and had a feeling of deja vu.

#disingenuous
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 08:17:40 PM
#disingenuous

Yes, your take is and continues to be. Seems to be a recurring issue. Must be everyone else's fault!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2023, 08:27:50 PM
Chicago Bears Schedule 2023
1   Sun, 9/10   
vsGB
3:25 PM   
FOX

2   Sun, 9/17   
@TB
12:00 PM   
FOX

3   Sun, 9/24   
@KC
3:25 PM   
FOX

4   Sun, 10/1   
vsDEN
12:00 PM   
CBS

5   Thu, 10/5   
@WSH
7:15 PM   
PRIME VIDEO

6   Sun, 10/15   
vsMIN
12:00 PM   
FOX

7   Sun, 10/22   
vsLV
12:00 PM   
FOX

8   Sun, 10/29   
@LAC
7:20 PM   
NBC

9   Sun, 11/5   
@NO
12:00 PM   
CBS

10   Thu, 11/9   
vsCAR
7:15 PM   
PRIME VIDEO

11   Sun, 11/19   
@DET
12:00 PM   
FOX

12   Mon, 11/27   
@MIN
7:15 PM   

13   BYE WEEK

14   Sun, 12/10   
vsDET
12:00 PM   
FOX

15   Sun, 12/17   
@CLE
TBD

16   Sun, 12/24   
vsARI
3:25 PM   
FOX

17   Sun, 12/31   
vsATL
12:00 PM   
CBS

18   Sun, 1/7   
@GB
TBD

14-3 and a Super Bowl, baby!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Miles Leonard on May 11, 2023, 10:29:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_LR7Yn7d-w
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 05:44:46 AM
Have to say, I’m happy with my decision to just wait for the schedule to come out, rather than try to guess where and what time they are playing…

The optimist in me says 10-7 (largely due to favorable schedule). The realist in me says 8-9 would be a reasonable level of improvement.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 05:46:47 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_LR7Yn7d-w

A for effort and creativity. B to B- for execution.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 05:48:11 AM
Raise of hands whose been to Mr. Beef!

Big fan of The Green Door Tavern right next door. Green Door is one of my favorite winter time bars in Chicago.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 12, 2023, 08:03:54 AM
Mr Beef > Al’s
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 09:09:43 AM
Mr Beef > Al’s

Only thing I hate about Mr. Beef, no gyros.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 11:35:45 AM
Hey guys, I’m sharing this tweet. Therefore it is a full-throated endorsement! Enjoy!

https://twitter.com/pschrags/status/1656781784007180288?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 11:42:19 AM
Saw this posted on Twitter. Had to share. Made me laugh. Brought back good HQ memories.

https://twitter.com/nflsanalyst/status/1656830365548306433?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 12:16:44 PM
I’m sharing this, so it’s obviously a full-throated endorsement! They’ve got GB winning the division. Hmmmm…

https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/05/12/2023-nfl-schedule-release-nfc-record-predictions
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 12:20:22 PM
The SI article says the Bears “have a tough schedule?” I don’t see how it could be much easier. Only two obvious playoff teams unless I missed something. I’ll look it over again.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 12, 2023, 12:23:48 PM
The SI article says the Bears “have a tough schedule?” I don’t see how it could be much easier. Only two obvious playoff teams unless I missed something. I’ll look it over again.

Yeah definitely read the article first! And just know nothing has actually happened yet. No games are ACTUALLY won or lost and it’s JUST predictions. Otherwise Robb is gonna come out of his grave and accuse you of disinformation again. Keep up the good work. The few previous posts have good disclaimers on them. Good job, buddy! I’m proud of you and the strides you continue to make!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 12:24:41 PM
Yeah, no. The schedule looks pretty “easy” to me. The only two games I’d put in the definite loss column are KC and LA (still sounds weird calling the Chargers LA). There are a couple/three teams that could be better than I think they’ll be, but there aren’t many world beaters on the schedule.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 12:29:40 PM
https://wisportsheroics.com/chicago-bears-brandon-marshall-aaron-rodgers/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 12:35:37 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y21JITN4UU
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 12, 2023, 12:38:42 PM
https://wisportsheroics.com/chicago-bears-brandon-marshall-aaron-rodgers/

No respected or respectable former Bear would ever say that or do that!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 12:41:21 PM
No respected or respectable former Bear would ever say that or do that!

We’re talking about Brandon Marshall here…

But…Jim McMahon did win a SB with GB. But I think he wore a Bears jersey to the White House? So he’s “fully exonerated.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 12:59:34 PM
Yeah, no. The schedule looks pretty “easy” to me. The only two games I’d put in the definite loss column are KC and LA (still sounds weird calling the Chargers LA). There are a couple/three teams that could be better than I think they’ll be, but there aren’t many world beaters on the schedule.

I have them losing those 2 and one they should not lose. 14-3.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 01:04:22 PM
I have them losing those 2 and one they should not lose. 14-3.

The optimist in me thinks 10-7 is on the table. 8 wins given decent health would be “reasonable progress.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 12, 2023, 01:14:48 PM
I have them losing those 2 and one they should not lose. 14-3.

😳 Put the pipe down, bud.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 01:19:53 PM
😳 Put the pipe down, bud.

He KNOWS Justin Fields SUCKS, and laughs heartily at the idea he could “improve.” But he also “EXPECTS Fields to pull it together, and take the Bear to the Super Bowl.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 01:35:56 PM
Playoffs???!!!

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/why-bears-first-five-games-are-critical-any-surprise-playoff-run
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 02:48:21 PM
He KNOWS Justin Fields SUCKS, and laughs heartily at the idea he could “improve.” But he also “EXPECTS Fields to pull it together, and take the Bear to the Super Bowl.”

All the articles you post say the HOF is a given. Bear coaches say that he elevates the play of everyone. I guess I am just sipping the kool aid.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 12, 2023, 03:42:48 PM
All the articles you post say the HOF is a given.

He’s no Andre Curbelo! 😁
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 04:07:53 PM
He’s no Andre Curbelo! 😁

Now that is funny, JudgeJudy. Well done.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 04:31:20 PM
All the articles you post say the HOF is a given.

Strawman alert. That is not even remotely true.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 04:32:11 PM
All the articles you post say the HOF is a given.

Feel free to re-post all of these articles.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 04:32:54 PM
Strawman alert. That is not even remotely true.

Drats! My attempts at hyperbole were exposed!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 04:52:39 PM
Drats! My attempts at hyperbole were exposed!

When 97% of what you say is hyperbolic, a lot of it will get glossed over.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 12, 2023, 04:53:44 PM
When 97% of what you say is hyperbolic, a lot of it will get glossed over.

Listen here Pot, this isn’t the first time you’ve met Kettle!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 04:56:18 PM
Listen here Pot, this isn’t the first time you’ve met Kettle!

LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 04:59:36 PM
Listen here Pot, this isn’t the first time you’ve met Kettle!

I’ve engaged in my share of hyperbole. But I think I’ve toned it down over the years, and at least try to engage in sincere discussion. Unlike someone we know.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 05:00:03 PM
When 97% of what you say is hyperbolic, a lot of it will get glossed over.

"97%" is hyperbolic.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 05:06:05 PM
"97%" is hyperbolic.

True. We’ll go with a flat 90%.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 05:07:41 PM
True. We’ll go with a flat 90%.

Ok. Seems to work for Trump.....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 05:21:15 PM
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-schedule-each-nfc-team-s-win-total-projection-for-2023-season
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 05:25:25 PM
https://www.nfl.com/news/nfl-schedule-each-nfc-team-s-win-total-projection-for-2023-season

Custard won't read it.

Lot of sucky teams in the NFC....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2023, 07:12:32 PM
Custard won't read it.


Why? Too busy with leg day?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2023, 07:36:17 PM
Why? Too busy with leg day?

Authored by a lady.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 12, 2023, 07:42:59 PM
Ok. Seems to work for Trump.....

But not Justin Fields…

90% and flat don’t go together for him UNLESS we’re talking about incompletion rate.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 13, 2023, 08:30:58 AM
https://dawindycity.com/2023/05/11/chicago-bears-rumors-malik-willis-backup/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 13, 2023, 09:23:05 AM
Over/Under 7.5 win total: Under

The Bears may be the toughest team to read in the NFL. Almost every year, someone goes worst to first. They play a reasonably soft schedule and kept some games close last year. They still ended the year as the worst team in football, though. Justin Fields has to be better from the pocket, as Chicago won’t go anywhere if he doesn't better his 54.4 passing grade. The Bears could win anywhere from four to 11 games. We’ll have to see the latter happen before we believe it.

https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2023-roster-rankings-strengths-weaknesses-x-factors-rookies-to-watch
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 13, 2023, 04:14:24 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-will-have-most-rest-any-nfl-team-during-regular-season
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 15, 2023, 03:20:21 PM
Preseason:

8/12 Noon vs. Titans
8/19 6PM @ Colts
8/26 Noon vs. Bills

Expecting a 2-1 record.  What do you guys think?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 15, 2023, 03:38:55 PM
Preseason:

8/12 Noon vs. Titans
8/19 6PM @ Colts
8/26 Noon vs. Bills

Expecting a 2-1 record.  What do you guys think?

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 15, 2023, 03:51:04 PM
Preseason:

8/12 Noon vs. Titans
8/19 6PM @ Colts
8/26 Noon vs. Bills

Expecting a 2-1 record.  What do you guys think?

Pre-season “records”’ in the NFL are utterly meaningless.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 15, 2023, 03:58:48 PM
Pre-season “records”’ in the NFL are utterly meaningless.

Important for a young team to set the tone.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 15, 2023, 04:31:04 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-will-have-most-rest-any-nfl-team-during-regular-season

Was factored into my 14-3 record prediction already. Eberlose has proven to be dominant in games where they had extra rest.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 15, 2023, 04:47:33 PM
Important for a young team to set the tone.

Not actually.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 15, 2023, 04:49:20 PM
Could easily be a scenario in which the starters and regular core players don’t play a full half in any game. Although I could see Flus playing starters longer.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 15, 2023, 04:50:40 PM
Was factored into my 14-3 record prediction already. Eberlose has proven to be dominant in games where they had extra rest.

Why would you call him “Eberlose” and still expect “wins?” Particularly 14-3.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 15, 2023, 08:36:32 PM
Why would you call him “Eberlose” and still expect “wins?” Particularly 14-3.

He's got his roster.  He has his QB. He has his favorable schedule. Until he actually wins games, which he should,  he's still Eberlose.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 03:00:50 AM
He's got his roster.  He has his QB. He has his favorable schedule. Until he actually wins games, which he should,  he's still Eberlose.

And in a season in which the franchise was clearly trying to cut salary and actively trading away their best players, you very reasonably expected him "to win."
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 16, 2023, 05:12:20 AM
dismisses tanking.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 06:58:29 AM
And in a season in which the franchise was clearly trying to cut salary and actively trading away their best players, you very reasonably expected him "to win."

I expected a defense that looked like it had been well coached before they traded away guys. Can't say I saw that.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 06:59:44 AM
dismisses tanking.

I love that he acts like the guys they traded did not play from the start.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:16:14 AM
I expected a defense that looked like it had been well coached before they traded away guys. Can't say I saw that.

Then I don’t think you were watching closely. The team looked well coached and disciplined. They had marginal players was the problem. They would play well for a while, then falter when they got tired because they weren’t that good and had no depth whatsoever.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:22:28 AM
I love that he acts like the guys they traded did not play from the start.

Khalil Mack played from the start? Jonathon Quinn shot his wad the year before. He was not that good (but still the best DL). That’s why they only got a late 4th for him. The defense was basically Roquan and like 3 others guys. You are seriously a football moron. Thankfully for you Dom inhabits these forums, saving you from being the dumbest football mind here. Although it’s up for debate between you two. Mn “would rather have had a couple more wins and drafted 8th“ is also in the team photo.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:25:27 AM
I love that he acts like the guys they traded did not play from the start.

Imagine looking at last years’ Chicago Bear roster and thinking they had what it took to “win.” And for the record, they did beat SF and dominated the GOAT at his place. Dismantling the roster was still the right move. Perhaps you remember Belichick having a word with Flus after the game. That was certainly a sign of respect for how Flus was building his culture.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:30:14 AM
...then falter when they got tired...

Guessing Bernstein has not lately discussed that coaching is an issue if your team is not in shape to play 4 quarters. See Matt Nagy Era.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:37:20 AM
Khalil Mack played from the start? Jonathon Quinn shot his wad the year before. He was not that good (but still the best DL). That’s why they only got a late 4th for him. The defense was basically Roquan and like 3 others guys. You are seriously a football moron. Thankfully for you Dom inhabits these forums, saving you from being the dumbest football mind here. Although it’s up for debate between you two. Mn “would rather have had a couple more wins and drafted 8th“ is also in the team photo.

LOL.

If you recall, they were 2-1 and then lost 3 close games, in part because the Wingback sucked in a Pro Offense. They then started tanking by trading the guys on defense (while wasting. 2 pick on a WR, who yelled at the Wingback on the sidelines because said Wingback could not throw the ball to him).

You act like the tank was the plan all along. Talk about dumb takes. Stupid.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:38:55 AM
Imagine looking at last years’ Chicago Bear roster and thinking they had what it took to “win.” And for the record, they did beat SF and dominated the GOAT at his place. Dismantling the roster was still the right move. Perhaps you remember Belichick having a word with Flus after the game. That was certainly a sign of respect for how Flus was building his culture.

LOL. Belichick talked to Eberlose! He must be the best coach ever after Belichick! Where do you get this stupid shit? What a dimwit!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:40:16 AM
Hilarious. Belichick talked to Eberlose after the game! Hahahahhahahahaha. Change your name to Meathead34.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on May 16, 2023, 07:41:39 AM
Khalil Mack played from the start? Jonathon Quinn shot his wad the year before. He was not that good (but still the best DL). That’s why they only got a late 4th for him. The defense was basically Roquan and like 3 others guys. You are seriously a football moron. Thankfully for you Dom inhabits these forums, saving you from being the dumbest football mind here. Although it’s up for debate between you two. Mn “would rather have had a couple more wins and drafted 8th“ is also in the team photo.

That's why Robert Quinn sucked.  It wasn't actually him.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:41:59 AM
Guessing Bernstein has not lately discussed that coaching is an issue if your team is not in shape to play 4 quarters. See Matt Nagy Era.

lol and you call me a meatball. Priceless.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:44:19 AM
Hilarious. Belichick talked to Eberlose after the game! Hahahahhahahahaha. Change your name to Meathead34.

Imagine the incredible lack of IQ it takes to expect wins out of a team that is clearly in rebuild mode and easily lead the league in dead cap space. On purpose…

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/agents-take-bears-top-nfls-largest-dead-money-salary-cap-charges-of-2022/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:45:30 AM
That was certainly a sign of respect for how Flus was building his culture.

This is actually the best part. This has to be from Bernstein or Parkins. Tempo isn't creative enough to come up with something  this fucking moronic.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:47:40 AM
lol and you call me a meatball. Priceless.

For a guy who claims to follow football, you sure are dumb if you don't know the impact coaching has on a team's ability to play 4 quarters.

We are off to  great start with Tempo showing his idiocy before 8am
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:48:08 AM
This is actually the best part. This has to be from Bernstein or Parkins. Tempo isn't creative enough to come up with something  this fucking moronic.

I watched it live. Belichick doesn’t make a habit of bending the other coaches’ ear after he just had his ass whipped.

You are pathetic with your Bernstein memes. That’s all you’ve got is memes. We know the intellect is lacking in your case.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:49:19 AM
Belichick respects Eberlose's culture.... he talked to him.after the game! You can't make this shit up.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:49:55 AM
I watched it live. Belichick doesn’t make a habit of bending the other coaches’ ear after he just had his ass whipped.

You are pathetic with your Bernstein memes. That’s all you’ve got is memes. We know the intellect is lacking in your case.

Hahahahaha. What a dimwit. Hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:50:04 AM
PAMan: “Bernstein and Parkins! Har har har!” *I’m so clever*
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:50:37 AM
Belichick respects Eberlose's culture.... he talked to him.after the game! You can't make this shit up.

I'm busting up over this shit. Fucking hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:51:58 AM
Eberlose's culture.....hahahahhahahahahahhahahahahahah!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:53:06 AM
Don’t take mine or Bernstein’s word for it. Take Flus’ and Belichick’s

"It was obviously a private conversation, but I can just generalize and say that he was complimentary of the way we’re doing things and what we’re building here," Eberflus said Tuesday of his conversation with Belichick. "That was what the whole conversation was and it was just complimentary of how we’re doing things."

"Obviously a poor performance tonight," Belichick said after the game. "I know we were badly outcoached, outplayed. Just didn't do anything well enough in the game to have a chance to win or deserve to win. Bears did a good job. Totally controlled the game in all three phases."

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:53:51 AM
PAMan: “Bernstein and Parkins! Har har har!” *I’m so clever*

So you don't have someone to blame for this dumbass take?

Even better.LOL!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:54:56 AM
That's why Robert Quinn sucked.  It wasn't actually him.

Don't you know Tempo34 is a football savant? Just ask him...
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 07:57:42 AM
BELICHICK TALKED TO EBERLOSE AFTER THE GAME!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 07:59:38 AM
Guessing Bernstein has not lately discussed that coaching is an issue if your team is not in shape to play 4 quarters. See Matt Nagy Era.

This is Dom level football stupid. It’s quite a feat. Thanks for the laugh.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:01:22 AM
Oh, by the way, Ebeflus’ practices are notoriously “hard,” so saying he didn’t do enough to get them in shape is even more hysterical. If you paid attention to anything other than your own ego, you’d know this.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:03:16 AM
Again, imagine the level of idiocy it takes to look at the fact that the Bears led the league in dead cap, 1 year contracts on fringe players; and expecting to win in the first year of a new regime that clearly prioritized turning over the roster. All time level dumb. I take it back, Dom is not the dumbest football mind here.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:05:28 AM
Did Dan McNeil convince you this should have been a playoff team last year?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:25:24 AM
LOL.

If you recall, they were 2-1 and then lost 3 close games, in part because the Wingback sucked in a Pro Offense. They then started tanking by trading the guys on defense (while wasting. 2 pick on a WR, who yelled at the Wingback on the sidelines because said Wingback could not throw the ball to him).

You act like the tank was the plan all along. Talk about dumb takes. Stupid.

They never game themselves a chance against GB. Running shotgun sneaks at the goal line. It was a collaborative effort. They played “not to lose” the first month or so. Ebeflus got smart and realized that wasn’t going to work and started taking more chances.

You really are an idiot supreme if you can’t see that winning was never really the expectation. Sure, they “wanted” to win. But there’s no way Poles and Flus didn’t know that it was a big uphill battle. Only a complete moron would expect a rookie HC, rookie OC, rookie DC, 2nd year QB to lead an absolutely barren roster to a playoff berth; or anything all that close. Byron Pringle was easily their highest paid WR for Christ sakes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:25:56 AM
Byron Pringle is still a FA btw.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:29:03 AM
For a guy who claims to follow football, you sure are dumb if you don't know the impact coaching has on a team's ability to play 4 quarters.

We are off to  great start with Tempo showing his idiocy before 8am

For a guy who claims to know football one would think to know that you can’t compete for 4 quarters with the fringiest of starters and even worse depth. You hear all the time about good teams have a “rotation of bodies,” especially on the D line. The Bears had nothing of the sort. Fire Poles!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:30:37 AM
Don't you know Tempo34 is a football savant? Just ask him...

Not a savant. Just not a pathetic meme fueled moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:31:32 AM
So you don't have someone to blame for this dumbass take?

Even better.LOL!

Yes. Eberflus and Belichick. As quotes above. Hit me with your best meme, memeguy!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 08:32:12 AM
This is Dom level football stupid. It’s quite a feat. Thanks for the laugh.

DID YOU KNOW BELICHICK TALKED TO EBERLOSE AFTER THE GAME!!!!

You can't top this...
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 08:34:20 AM
Oh, by the way, Ebeflus’ practices are notoriously “hard,” so saying he didn’t do enough to get them in shape is even more hysterical. If you paid attention to anything other than your own ego, you’d know this.

I'm sure Eberlose and Belichick discussed that after the game.

If that is remotely true, then the Bear should not get tired during games.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 08:35:35 AM
Again, imagine the level of idiocy it takes to look at the fact that the Bears led the league in dead cap, 1 year contracts on fringe players; and expecting to win in the first year of a new regime that clearly prioritized turning over the roster. All time level dumb. I take it back, Dom is not the dumbest football mind here.

Belichick spoke to Eberlose after the game!!!!

I need to change my 14-3 prediction to 17-0 now!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:37:01 AM
Poles has created the new winning template, ya’ll!

1) Lead the league in dead cap space
2) Sign a bunch of lottery ticket fringe players who couldn’t get multi-year deals
3) Trade away your best, most expensive players
4) Watch the wins PILE up!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:38:07 AM
Belichick spoke to Eberlose after the game!!!!

I need to change my 14-3 prediction to 17-0 now!

You really know how to bring the “substance.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 08:38:52 AM
Poles has created the new winning template, ya’ll!

1) Lead the league in dead cap space
2) Sign a bunch of lottery ticket fringe players who couldn’t get multi-year deals
3) Trade away your best, most expensive players
4) Watch the wins PILE up!

5) Hire a coach that Belichick will speak with after the game.

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:39:08 AM
5) Hire a coach that Belichick will speak with after the game.

Doesn’t hurt.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:42:38 AM
DID YOU KNOW BELICHICK TALKED TO EBERLOSE AFTER THE GAME!!!!

You can't top this...

Trust me, you’re topping it easily.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:43:58 AM
I'm sure Eberlose and Belichick discussed that after the game.

If that is remotely true, then the Bear should not get tired during games.

Again, the fact that you think I’m the meatball is just stunning. It would be like Phyliss Diller asking Raquel Welch why she’s so ugly.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:45:19 AM
DID YOU KNOW BELICHICK TALKED TO EBERLOSE AFTER THE GAME!!!!

You can't top this...

(https://i.postimg.cc/d3qnxYG9/DEC12854-2-D78-4780-8720-70506-D2-A76-CB.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CBQjR9PZ)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:58:38 AM
Doubt it would happen, but Quinnen Williams would be the cherry on top of the sundae of a good off season.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbZp4LmG35M
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 09:18:53 AM
Again, the fact that you think I’m the meatball is just stunning. It would be like Phyliss Diller asking Raquel Welch why she’s so ugly.

You actually raised Belichick speaking with Eberlose after a game as an argument. You have won the HQ2 Meatball Award for the year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 09:23:07 AM
You actually raised Belichick speaking with Eberlose after a game as an argument. You have won the HQ2 Meatball Award for the year.


Simply pointing out that the GOAT thinks the Bears are “doing things the right way.” As a retort to your “Eberlose” meme. “Look at me, I’m so clever!” - ThePAMan

Nothing more, nothing less.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 09:25:21 AM
Poles has created the new winning template, ya’ll!

1) Lead the league in dead cap space
2) Sign a bunch of lottery ticket fringe players who couldn’t get multi-year deals
3) Trade away your best, most expensive players
4) Watch the wins PILE up!

This template will surely be followed by those GMs that want to win, and win NOW! Gotta make sure your players are in shape, though. Gotta be able to play all 4 Quarters.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 16, 2023, 09:41:03 AM
All the articles you post say the HOF is a given. Bear coaches say that he elevates the play of everyone. I guess I am just sipping the kool aid.

I assume you can produce one single article that says the HOF is a given, then.  Should be easy.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 10:58:46 AM
I assume you can produce one single article that says the HOF is a given, then.  Should be easy.

Spark, you missed this part right thereafter...

Drats! My attempts at hyperbole were exposed!

Please try and keep up. We are now onto OMG! BELICHICK SPOKE WITH EBERLOSE AFTER THE PATRIOTS GAME! As evidence of Eberlose being the next Lombardi.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 11:00:04 AM


Simply pointing out that the GOAT thinks the Bears are “doing things the right way.” As a retort to your “Eberlose” meme. “Look at me, I’m so clever!” - ThePAMan

Nothing more, nothing less.

I am sure Belichick was impressed with the game film from the Bear 12-7 loss to the Commander the week before.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 11:01:01 AM
Gotta make sure your players are in shape, though. Gotta be able to play all 4 Quarters.

If you say the Bear would get tired during games last year, being able to play all 4 quarters would be a start.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 11:02:11 AM


Simply pointing out that the GOAT thinks the Bears are “doing things the right way.” As a retort to your “Eberlose” meme. “Look at me, I’m so clever!” - ThePAMan

Nothing more, nothing less.

HQ2 Meatball Award winner. Hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 01:20:09 PM
Spark, you missed this part right thereafter...

Please try and keep up. We are now onto OMG! BELICHICK SPOKE WITH EBERLOSE AFTER THE PATRIOTS GAME! As evidence of Eberlose being the next Lombardi.

No penchant for rampant hyperbole here.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 01:22:53 PM
If you say the Bear would get tired during games last year, being able to play all 4 quarters would be a start.

They had poor quality starters with even less depth, genius. In a year where turning over the roster was clearly prioritized over “winning.” JFC how are you not able to understand this?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 01:24:10 PM
HQ2 Meatball Award winner. Hilarious.

PatheticTrollMan should be your new username.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 01:34:50 PM
No penchant for rampant hyperbole here.

I am not as proficient as some at strawman construction. But I have been watching a master at work and taking notes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 01:36:21 PM
They had poor quality starters with even less depth, genius. In a year where turning over the roster was clearly prioritized over “winning.” JFC how are you not able to understand this?

You are the one who said they would get tired during games. If that is an issue, that is on the coach. At least partly.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 01:37:37 PM
PatheticTrollMan should be your new username.

If I study the master hard enough, I may get to TheSTRAWMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 02:14:53 PM
I am not as proficient as some at strawman construction. But I have been watching a master at work and taking notes.

I am guilty of saying Justin Fields could get better at being an NFL quarterback, and that Belichick praised Eberflus, which he did. That’s about it. Keep up the good work InflammatoryForNoReasonMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 02:23:33 PM
HQ2 Meatball Award winner. Hilarious.

Again, imagine the incredible lack of intellect it takes to look at the way the team was ran last year, and think that “winning” was the priority. Pretty astounding.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 03:48:32 PM
Again, imagine the incredible lack of intellect it takes to look at the way the team was ran last year, and think that “winning” was the priority. Pretty astounding.

Strawmen. As far as the eye can see.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 03:49:14 PM
I am guilty of saying Justin Fields could get better at being an NFL quarterback, and that Belichick praised Eberflus, which he did. That’s about it. Keep up the good work InflammatoryForNoReasonMan.

You are guilty of many things. Being HQ2's Number 1 Strawman Builder is one of them.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 03:50:28 PM
I am guilty of saying Justin Fields could get better at being an NFL quarterback, and that Belichick praised Eberflus, which he did. That’s about it. Keep up the good work InflammatoryForNoReasonMan.

Belichick talked to Eberlose after the game!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 04:11:47 PM
They never game themselves a chance against GB. Running shotgun sneaks at the goal line. It was a collaborative effort. They played “not to lose” the first month or so. Ebeflus got smart and realized that wasn’t going to work and started taking more chances.

You really are an idiot supreme if you can’t see that winning was never really the expectation. Sure, they “wanted” to win. But there’s no way Poles and Flus didn’t know that it was a big uphill battle. Only a complete moron would expect a rookie HC, rookie OC, rookie DC, 2nd year QB to lead an absolutely barren roster to a playoff berth; or anything all that close. Byron Pringle was easily their highest paid WR for Christ sakes.

Maybe if the Wingback knew how to play QB  they could have eeked out a victory over the Commanders instead of losing 12-7. Given all of his offseason work at the Bulls game and graduation he has put in, he should be ready to be a top 10 passing QB!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 04:20:14 PM
They never game themselves a chance against GB. Running shotgun sneaks at the goal line. It was a collaborative effort. They played “not to lose” the first month or so. Ebeflus got smart and realized that wasn’t going to work and started taking more chances.

It is great that you STILL cannot figure out why the Bear offensive play calling was what it was last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 04:24:30 PM
Maybe if the Wingback knew how to play QB  they could have eeked out a victory over the Commanders instead of losing 12-7. Given all of his offseason work at the Bulls game and graduation he has put in, he should be ready to be a top 10 passing QB!

Don’t you ever get tired of being stupid?

https://youtu.be/c-yjdwix59Y
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 04:26:10 PM
If only we had eeked out a win against the Commanders and been drafting 6th; we’d have been so much better off!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 04:28:22 PM
Don’t you ever get tired of being stupid?

https://youtu.be/c-yjdwix59Y

Just in case you’re confused on what happened, Justin Fields delivers a well thrown ball at the goal line that is a winning touchdown if not bobbled by Mooney. But again, it’s Fields’ fault!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 04:33:15 PM
If the best you can come up with is “Belichick talked to Eberlose!” maybe you should take the rest of the evening off, and try again tomorrow?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 04:34:13 PM
It is great that you STILL cannot figure out why the Bear offensive play calling was what it was last year.

There were about 4-5 good reasons. All explained to you clearly. Multiple times over.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 04:40:16 PM
Just in case you’re confused on what happened, Justin Fields delivers a well thrown ball at the goal line that is a winning touchdown if not bobbled by Mooney. But again, it’s Fields’ fault!

But again, just like St. Brown dropping a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down; I’m sure it’s Fields’ fault Mooney didn’t get deep enough into the end zone and bobbled a well thrown ball.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 05:39:27 PM
But PAMan, gonna PAMan…

https://www.nfl.com/news/bears-wr-darnell-mooney-on-loss-to-commanders-if-i-just-catch-the-damn-ball-the-
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:37:34 PM
If the best you can come up with is “Belichick talked to Eberlose!” maybe you should take the rest of the evening off, and try again tomorrow?

Glad you took the advice to heart. You were having a rough day.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 16, 2023, 08:46:38 PM
It is great that you STILL cannot figure out why the Bear offensive play calling was what it was last year.

What’s “great” is you STILL don’t understand how…

1) most dead cap space in league
2) tons of fringe players on 1 year deals (because those players couldn’t find better contracts)
3) trading away best players
4) Rookie GM, Rookie HC, Rookie OC, Rookie DC, 2nd year quarterback
5) leftovers of talent barren Ryan Pace roster

Didn’t lead to a playoff contender…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 10:31:16 PM
There were about 4-5 good reasons. All explained to you clearly. Multiple times over.

Not by you, that's for sure. Dimwit. LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 10:32:46 PM
But again, just like St. Brown dropping a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down; I’m sure it’s Fields’ fault Mooney didn’t get deep enough into the end zone and bobbled a well thrown ball.

What a fucking moron who drives an Uber for a living! LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 10:35:19 PM
Don’t you ever get tired of being stupid?

https://youtu.be/c-yjdwix59Y

Belichick spoke the Eberlose! Fucking hilarious. What a jackass moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 10:36:19 PM
Just in case you’re confused on what happened, Justin Fields delivers a well thrown ball at the goal line that is a winning touchdown if not bobbled by Mooney. But again, it’s Fields’ fault!

Moron Dimwit. Cuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 10:38:01 PM
Glad you took the advice to heart. You were having a rough day.

What a moron you are. Hilarious. Belichick spoke to Eberlose!

What an Uber driving moron..
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 16, 2023, 10:40:30 PM
JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 10:42:03 PM
What’s “great” is you STILL don’t understand how…

1) most dead cap space in league
2) tons of fringe players on 1 year deals (because those players couldn’t find better contracts)
3) trading away best players
4) Rookie GM, Rookie HC, Rookie OC, Rookie DC, 2nd year quarterback
5) leftovers of talent barren Ryan Pace roster

Didn’t lead to a playoff contender…

Damn you are a fucking moron.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 16, 2023, 11:33:13 PM
JFC

Justin Fucking Fields should lead them to 14 victories given the schedule and the weapons he has been given, plus .. Belichick told Eberlose he was impressed with the culture he was building!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 17, 2023, 12:48:08 AM
Ok man I’ve read this 47 fucking times tonight, it’s wearing a bit thin
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 17, 2023, 07:45:58 AM
Damn you are a fucking moron.

Instead of personal attacks maybe explain why my position is wrong?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 17, 2023, 01:26:54 PM
Spark, you missed this part right thereafter...

Please try and keep up. We are now onto OMG! BELICHICK SPOKE WITH EBERLOSE AFTER THE PATRIOTS GAME! As evidence of Eberlose being the next Lombardi.

You say enough shit about the Bears that's self evidently stupid as fuck that there's no reasonable way to know when you're being sarcastic and when you aren't.

So the thing you 'exaggerated' and claimed 'every article' said, you just made up and actually zero articles said it?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 17, 2023, 01:31:13 PM
Quite a prolific meltdown from PAMan.  Yikes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 17, 2023, 01:39:11 PM
You say enough shit about the Bears that's self evidently stupid as fuck that there's no reasonable way to know when you're being sarcastic and when you aren't.

🛎️
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 17, 2023, 01:39:24 PM
Quite a prolific meltdown from PAMan.  Yikes.

🛎️
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 17, 2023, 02:48:10 PM
Think PAMan was in the sauce last night, maybe at a Bob Seger cover band
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 17, 2023, 03:23:13 PM
I got the impression he went to see the Pale Hose, and that may explain some things.

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 17, 2023, 03:39:58 PM
Think PAMan was in the sauce last night, maybe at a Bob Seger cover band

Was thinking the same.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 17, 2023, 09:47:45 PM
I got the impression he went to see the Pale Hose, and that may explain some things.
But the Bears setting a record for consecutive home losses, consecutive losses and the worst record in the NFL and knowing that Belichek apparently told Eberflus the Bears are doing the right things maybe called for another drink. Or 3-5 extra.

Realistically though, what did you expect from last year? The talent was awful. They didn't have any draft capital.And they had no money to spend. Would you really have preferred going 7-10 and having nothing but the 13th pick in the draft to show for it? Because that is completely illogical.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 18, 2023, 06:15:11 AM
For an NFL charter team that set a franchise record for consecutive losses, I'm not sure that I expected the 'Belichek talked to Eberflus post-game' argument and a continuation of 'ESB dropped the perfectly thrown spiral costing the Bears a victory because everyone knows he would have ended up in the end zone but they couldn't win anyway because they have no talent and it's part of the tanking process' arguments. In May.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 07:05:40 AM
For an NFL charter team that set a franchise record for consecutive losses, I'm not sure that I expected the 'Belichek talked to Eberflus post-game' argument and a continuation of 'ESB dropped the perfectly thrown spiral costing the Bears a victory because everyone knows he would have ended up in the end zone but they couldn't win anyway because they have no talent and it's part of the tanking process' arguments. In May.

Lol talk about piss poor reading comprehension and logic skills
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 18, 2023, 08:18:11 AM
Lol talk about piss poor reading comprehension and logic skills
It is May.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 09:04:27 AM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 09:41:09 AM
For an NFL charter team that set a franchise record for consecutive losses, I'm not sure that I expected the 'Belichek talked to Eberflus post-game' argument and a continuation of 'ESB dropped the perfectly thrown spiral costing the Bears a victory because everyone knows he would have ended up in the end zone but they couldn't win anyway because they have no talent and it's part of the tanking process' arguments. In May.

There’s about 6 ways in which you’re being obtuse or flat out wrong here.

1) “NFL charter franchise record losing streak” is a strawman. For several of reasons. One, they’ve had a couple of worse or just as bad seasons. They also played more games which allowed them to set the record for losses. They also weren’t prioritizing winning (for the 30th time). Are you really going to fault Poles for trying to clean up the mess left behind by Ryan Pace? Could you not see that he was tearing the whole thing down on purpose? I could spend 5 minutes on this first strawman alone.

2) I merely pointed out that Belichick was clearly impressed by what Ebeflus is doing. Why? Because Belichick is smart enough to know that Eberflus didn’t beat him with the better/more talented team. The fact that Belichick took time to speak to Eberflus after getting his ass kicked by him was a clear sign of respect. It guarantees nothing. Just shows that some smart football people like what they see. And of course, you ran hook, line, and sinker with PAMan’s unclever bit.

3) The ESB drop isn’t the one alluded to here. It was Mooney’s bobble at the goal line. PAMan said “if JFC were a little better at quarterback perhaps they could have eeked out a win against the Commanders.” Well I showed him a video that proves the opportunity for a win was there and it wasn’t botched by Fields. Also, no one is saying the Bears win the (other) game if ESB makes his catch, but it was 4th down and did end any chance the Bears had of winning that game. So clearly Fields wasn’t to blame for everything that went wrong as you guys like to claim.

4) Again, for the slow-learners here. As evidenced by the lack of spending, trading away of best players, lack of draft resources, and lack of NFL quality depth and starters; “winning (with a rookie HC, OC, DC, and 2nd year QB) was not a realistic goal. They were competitive in most games. That was by and large a success given all that they were dealing with.

5) The Franchise is unquestionably better off having gone 3-14 and getting multiple high value draft picks and a legitimate #1 WR rather than having gone a meaningless 7-10 and merely getting the 13th pick to show for it. Only a legitimate moron would argue differently. Purging the roster of bad contracts and saving that coin for years 2 and 3 was unquestionably the right move. Just because there are guys out there with the letter C on their helmet doesn’t mean they can realistically be expected to “win.” Ryan Poles and Matt Nagy were fired for a reason. They lost too much and their roster largely stunk. That can’t be fixed in one off season. Especially when the organization is cash strapped and draft capital deficient. I could easily go on, but should i need to?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 09:46:49 AM
6) And I don’t know what the fuck “it’s only May” even means…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 18, 2023, 09:55:20 AM
You’re being trolled, Tempo. You’re the one falling for it hook, line, and sinker. The reason it seems insane what they’re saying is because it’s an act. Yes Poles has done the right thing and I agree with just about every point you’ve made above. What were you taught in kindergarten… if you ignore them they’ll go away lol. I’ve agreed with almost everything you’ve said, but I don’t wanna do THIS everyday into MAY, so I just say my peace and dip out. It’s not THAT important to repeat the same thing repeatedly 3-5 months AFTER the season is over. You’re being trolled and apparently it’s working or you’re just not being smart enough to realize it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 18, 2023, 10:03:39 AM
You’re being trolled, Tempo. You’re the one falling for it hook, line, and sinker. The reason it seems insane what they’re saying is because it’s an act. Yes Poles has done the right thing and I agree with just about every point you’ve made above. What were you taught in kindergarten… if you ignore them they’ll go away lol. I’ve agreed with almost everything you’ve said, but I don’t wanna do THIS everyday into MAY, so I just say my peace and dip out. It’s not THAT important to repeat the same thing repeatedly 3-5 months AFTER the season is over. You’re being trolled and apparently it’s working or you’re just not being smart enough to realize it.
If only Hightower would have made the td catch vs the Hoosiers more obvious, DeVito would have gotten the win.
If only the wr hadn't leaped too early, he would have caught the td pass for the win. An All-American would have caught it.
 :D
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 10:04:11 AM
You’re being trolled, Tempo. You’re the one falling for it hook, line, and sinker. The reason it seems insane what they’re saying is because it’s an act. Yes Poles has done the right thing and I agree with just about every point you’ve made above. What were you taught in kindergarten… if you ignore them they’ll go away lol. I’ve agreed with almost everything you’ve said, but I don’t wanna do THIS everyday into MAY, so I just say my peace and dip out. It’s not THAT important to repeat the same thing repeatedly 3-5 months AFTER the season is over. You’re being trolled and apparently it’s working or you’re just not being smart enough to realize it.

If they get off on it, it says more about them than it does me. PAMan definitely does some trolling (but due to his willingness to look idiotic, I think also believes much of what he says). I think Mn would legitimately rather have won 7 games last year and been drafting 13th.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 18, 2023, 10:06:22 AM
If they get off on it, it says more about them than it does me. PAMan definitely does some trolling (but due to his willingness to look idiotic, I think also believes much of what he says). I think Mn would legitimately rather have won 7 games last year and been drafting 13th.

Mn? Would you care to address this? Would you rather?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 10:07:22 AM
Mn? Would you care to address this? Would you rather?

He admitted it about two months back. He’d have rather beaten the Lions and been drafting lower.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 10:07:58 AM
If only Hightower would have made the td catch vs the Hoosiers more obvious, DeVito would have gotten the win.
If only the wr hadn't leaped too early, he would have caught the td pass for the win. An All-American would have caught it.
 :D

This is for your post, not the failed catch.

https://youtu.be/_asNhzXq72w
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 18, 2023, 10:10:26 AM
He admitted it about two months back. He’d have rather beaten the Lions and been drafting lower.

Mn? Was this legit opinion or were you just trolling?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 10:11:56 AM
I believe I asked him straight up and it was a one word “yes,” IIRC. So he didn’t invest much into it if it was a troll job.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 18, 2023, 10:13:29 AM
This is for your post, not the failed catch.

https://youtu.be/_asNhzXq72w
Yeah, I don't remember those arguments months after the season ended either.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 18, 2023, 10:31:32 AM
I do not think it is in the competitive spirit to have a sports model that rewards losing as much as the NBA and NFL do. It makes for a bunch of shitty meaningless games, but people still fall all over themselves to watch them and obsess over them even in May, so why would they change anything?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 10:35:27 AM
I do not think it is in the competitive spirit to have a sports model that rewards losing as much as the NBA and NFL do. It makes for a bunch of shitty meaningless games, but people still fall all over themselves to watch them and obsess over them even in May, so why would they change anything?

Blame the contracts. Specifically for quarterbacks. It’s idiotic that the most precious thing an NFL franchise can have is a top QB on a rookie deal. It handcuffs everything else. All pro sports are like this. The Blackhawks went into the tank after they paid their star players. The Cubs and Sox both had to tank to rebuild. It is what it is.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 10:40:01 AM
You actually see less (purposeful) tanking in the NFL than other sports.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 18, 2023, 11:16:23 AM
Yeah it is what it is, which has turned me off to the NBA and NFL in general. Maybe I’m the only one that can’t get excited about sports where teams are losing on purpose. Seems like there could be a better way.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 18, 2023, 11:33:42 AM
Mn? Was this legit opinion or were you just trolling?
I've told him. I've watched Bears games for longer than he's been alive.

Separately, I don't advocate for tanking. 3-14 is 3-14. A franchise record for consecutive losses is an unwanted franchise record.
And I've seen plenty of bad Illini football. The punter was the MVP one year.

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 18, 2023, 11:34:59 AM
You actually see less (purposeful) tanking in the NFL than other sports.
Hang a banner when the Bears do it tho.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 18, 2023, 12:05:38 PM
Been too busy, but, Mn is right that it is only May. LOL. That the JFC Cabal does not get it, or studied the Founding Fathers and Jefferson's back stabbing (really disappointed with Nichi not knowing any of that), to be expected. Ta ta for now.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 18, 2023, 12:32:41 PM
There should be an Onion headline like, "Idiot about everything else is also an idiot about this."

It'd get a lot of use.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 12:36:31 PM
There should be an Onion headline like, "Idiot about everything else is also an idiot about this."

It'd get a lot of use.

Lol perfect
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 12:37:12 PM
It’s only May (whatever the fuck that means)!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 12:39:21 PM
I've told him. I've watched Bears games for longer than he's been alive.

Separately, I don't advocate for tanking. 3-14 is 3-14. A franchise record for consecutive losses is an unwanted franchise record.
And I've seen plenty of bad Illini football. The punter was the MVP one year.

When you’re way underwater on money and draft capital, keep digging! Ryan Pace would! Don’t be smart and absorb your lumps for one year! Put together the best team you can so you can draft 13th every year!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 12:59:39 PM
I’ll bet Mn laments that the ‘85 Bears went 1-3 in the preseason.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 18, 2023, 01:20:34 PM
I’ll bet Mn laments that the ‘85 Bears went 1-3 in the preseason.

I bet he does not.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 01:22:18 PM
I bet he does not.

He seems to care quite a bit about mostly meaningless games.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 18, 2023, 01:23:25 PM
PAman might however
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 18, 2023, 01:36:38 PM
I bet he does not.
I bet you are correct.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 18, 2023, 02:06:08 PM
When you’re way underwater on money and draft capital, keep digging! Ryan Pace would! Don’t be smart and absorb your lumps for one year! Put together the best team you can so you can draft 13th every year!

This is exactly what the Bulls do and it infuriates me! They have absolutely no shot at a championship doing that.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 03:16:15 PM
This is exactly what the Bulls do and it infuriates me! They have absolutely no shot at a championship doing that.

It’s what the Sox did every year for 20 years, too. Worked once.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 18, 2023, 03:44:01 PM
There should be an Onion headline like, "Idiot about everything else is also an idiot about this."

It'd get a lot of use.

Whiny bitch whines...
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 18, 2023, 03:45:05 PM
It’s only May (whatever the fuck that means)!

Of course you don't get it. Least shocking thing I've read.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 04:00:43 PM
Of course you don't get it. Least shocking thing I've read.

(https://i.postimg.cc/9F0YVYLY/6-A1-A9817-7286-407-D-A149-D189553-D0-F2-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/svFh47dM)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on May 18, 2023, 04:08:27 PM
Free shots don't matter until January 16th
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 18, 2023, 04:09:17 PM
Free shots don't matter until January 16th

Somebody gets it…

Yet Spark didn’t and thinks you’re dumb…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on May 18, 2023, 04:11:52 PM
Somebody gets it…

Yet Spark didn’t and thinks you’re dumb…

I don't know that Spark thinks I'm dumb.  I'm sure he thinks I'm an asshole or whatever.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 18, 2023, 04:26:18 PM
I bet he does not.

Different scenario than here. That was a veteran team that had played together and lost to the 49er in playoffs. Eberlose is not finished building his culture...
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 18, 2023, 04:28:59 PM
Somebody gets it…

Yet Spark didn’t and thinks you’re dumb…

Apparently too complicated a concept for some. Like understanding the concept that JFC was awful in passing last year when he had time and open men to throw to.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 05:21:22 PM
“It’s May” literally means nothing in context to the Chicago Bears. It’s completely nonsensical. Other than the statement being accurate. It is, indeed, May.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 05:23:18 PM
Different scenario than here. That was a veteran team that had played together and lost to the 49er in playoffs. Eberlose is not finished building his culture...

Winning a meaningless game in which teams are running generic concepts with players that soon won’t be on the roster isn’t going to do much to “change the culture.” Regular season games, now that’s different.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 18, 2023, 05:26:59 PM
Far and away the most important thing of the preseason will be coming out of it with no significant injuries.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 18, 2023, 06:42:58 PM
Here ya go…

(https://i.ibb.co/Bcgr2pB/IMG-1572.png) (https://ibb.co/TYHbMft)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 07:37:47 AM
“It’s May” literally means nothing in context to the Chicago Bears. It’s completely nonsensical. Other than the statement being accurate. It is, indeed, May.

Still does not get it. Not shocked.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 19, 2023, 08:20:35 AM
Still does not get it. Not shocked.
I think you just want to hear, in May, about that nice spiral Fields threw in Oct. Again.


Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 08:33:20 AM
Still does not get it. Not shocked.


Still posts nothing of substance. Just insults. Not shocked.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 08:34:24 AM
I think you just want to hear, in May, about that nice spiral Fields threw in Oct. Again.

Other than being an accurate interpretation of the Gregorian calendar, “it’s May” means absolutely nothing meaningful, particularly regarding the Chicago Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 08:35:47 AM
Ryan Poles setting the bar high for year 2.

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1659547430570930177?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 19, 2023, 08:58:10 AM
Whiny bitch whines...

Yes, that'd be a solid Onion headline too.  You'd get that one posted to you a lot these days.  All you do is whine here.

Just constant bad faith whining and trolling Tempo.  It's pretty sad to watch.

I suppose I shouldn't be that surprised that the only board that'd let Truth post there turned into a bunch of Truths, but I thought more of most of you than that.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 01:23:52 PM
Yes, that'd be a solid Onion headline too.  You'd get that one posted to you a lot these days.  All you do is whine here.

Just constant bad faith whining and trolling Tempo.  It's pretty sad to watch.

I suppose I shouldn't be that surprised that the only board that'd let Truth post there turned into a bunch of Truths, but I thought more of most of you than that.

I would win the B1G Conference Title in trolling Tempo. Need to up my game for The Tourney though.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 01:24:18 PM
Ryan Poles setting the bar high for year 2.

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1659547430570930177?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

It is still May and Fields is light years ahead.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 01:44:47 PM
I would win the B1G Conference Title in trolling Tempo. Need to up my game for The Tourney though.

The sad part is how much of your life you’re willing to devote to it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 02:35:23 PM
Is it still May? And how does this impact the Bears next season?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 03:32:22 PM
Is it still May? And how does this impact the Bears next season?

You are busy telling us....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 19, 2023, 03:41:06 PM
PAMan is busy in May scouting his new hobby - HS girls tennis.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on May 19, 2023, 03:43:37 PM
The sad part is how much of your life you’re willing to devote to it.

Oh, come on. You love this shit. Don't act like you don't.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 03:46:10 PM
PAMan is busy in May scouting his new hobby - HS girls tennis.

Sorry, don't have any interest or the time. But it is a nice meme you have going.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 03:46:44 PM
Oh, come on. You love this shit. Don't act like you don't.

Exactly.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 03:47:38 PM
The sad part is how much of your life you’re willing to devote to it.

One might consider who is trolling who here.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 04:19:39 PM
Ryan Poles setting the bar high for year 2.

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1659547430570930177?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

You should ask @BBUZZBEE about his comment on this The Tweet.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 04:44:41 PM
Oh, come on. You love this shit. Don't act like you don't.

I’d actually enjoy it more if he were interested in some reasonable discussion more often.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 04:45:11 PM
You should ask @BBUZZBEE about his comment on this The Tweet.

Who the hell is that?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 04:49:08 PM
Who the hell is that?

He commented on that Tweet by saying

Quote
How is there a “different vibe” in May?

Stop posting your Goober Homer Rhetoric Danny.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 04:51:40 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 04:53:32 PM
Lol

I had to laugh that he is stealing Mn's bit. Or he is Mn,
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 04:54:28 PM
One would think the GM is keeping his finger on the pulse of the team regardless of what month it is.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 05:09:55 PM
Maybe Mn (and this guy) are under the impression that this is 1964 and Poles hasn’t seen or been speaking to his players since January as they are busy at their offseason jobs as gas station attendants.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 19, 2023, 05:14:16 PM
Maybe Mn (and this guy) are under the impression that this is 1964 and Poles hasn’t seen or been speaking to his players since January as they are busy at their offseason jobs as gas station attendants.

The rosters are all set then?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 19, 2023, 05:57:47 PM
You should ask @BBUZZBEE about his comment on this The Tweet.
I read some comments this morning, but before @BBUZZBEE commented.
Lol

Poles has been talking to the players.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 19, 2023, 08:36:36 PM
The rosters are all set then?

Are you expecting any earth shattering additions before September?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 20, 2023, 09:03:03 AM
Are you expecting any earth shattering additions before September?

They aren't going to add guys when there are cut downs?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 20, 2023, 09:13:38 AM
They aren't going to add guys when there are cut downs?

Probably. But do you think they are adding a couple of All-Pros? By and large, we know what each team will look like next year. All that’s left over are the scraps. Each team would do well to find a usable piece or two.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 20, 2023, 09:14:33 AM
Are Trent Williams and Aaron Donald getting cut?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 20, 2023, 09:17:41 AM
Outside of any unlikely blockbuster trade, can’t think of anything that would move the needle much on anyone’s Super Bowl odds.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 20, 2023, 11:46:45 AM
Probably. But do you think they are adding a couple of All-Pros? By and large, we know what each team will look like next year. All that’s left over are the scraps. Each team would do well to find a usable piece or two.

There are always decent guys who are cap casualties, no?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 20, 2023, 11:47:43 AM
Are Trent Williams and Aaron Donald getting cut?

Ram has real serious cap issues....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 20, 2023, 11:52:58 AM
Question for you Tempo...

Dumpy Dan McNeil was talking about Kaplan saying that JFC has "no shot" at being a Top 10 QB this year. Dumpy said, yeah, JFC has had his issues, but after you get through (in no order) Mahomes, Burrow, Jackson, Herbert, Allen, and last year Hurts, the rest are "guys," aren't they? So why not think that JFC can be a top 10 QB this year?

While I think the odds may be against it, I still agree with Dumpy Dan. Your thoughts?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 20, 2023, 01:20:24 PM
Of course I think JF can be a top 10 quarterback this year. Am I guaranteeing it, no, of course not. I’d say he has an excellent chance of being in that 2nd tier though.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 20, 2023, 01:21:10 PM
More likely to be top 3rd than bottom 3rd IMO.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 20, 2023, 01:23:06 PM
There are always decent guys who are cap casualties, no?

It’s unlikely any Super Bowl odds will change significantly due to free agent acquisitions at this point. We pretty much know what each team will look like barring significant injuries.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 20, 2023, 03:25:51 PM
There are always decent guys who are cap casualties, no?
But the Bears are looking for that combination of character and nastiness.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 21, 2023, 05:15:50 PM
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/37693310/big-ten-new-commissioner-television-deal-coaches-uncertainty

Sounds like Warren left a mess behind. Hopefully he dots the i's and crosses the t's on the New Bear Stadium better than he did on the B1G TV contract.....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 23, 2023, 07:04:30 PM
I wonder how many guys didn’t make OTAs or haven’t been in contact with the team because they are busy at their off-season jobs as gas station attendants.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 24, 2023, 03:26:54 PM
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bill-belichick-thinks-bears-got-the-right-guy-in-matt-eberflus/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 24, 2023, 03:29:15 PM
https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/bill-belichick-thinks-bears-got-the-right-guy-in-matt-eberflus/

Is this akin to Izzo loving Weber?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 24, 2023, 04:48:28 PM
Is this akin to Izzo loving Weber?

That’s actually a clever retort. What a refreshing post.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 01:08:16 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/dj-moore-tremaine-edmunds-quickly-show-why-2023-bears-will-be-different
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 02:53:03 PM
This is pretty incredible stuff (from the wingback)!

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-justin-fields-2nd-nfl-nextgen-speed-list
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 03:22:15 PM
This is pretty incredible stuff (from the wingback)!

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-justin-fields-2nd-nfl-nextgen-speed-list

Was hoping it would be passing plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 03:32:03 PM
Naturally.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 03:52:22 PM
Naturally.

We already know the cat can run really fast.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 03:53:36 PM
We already know the cat can run really fast.

The fact that only Tyreek Hill was faster is amazing, though.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 03:55:00 PM
The fact that only Tyreek Hill was faster is amazing, though.

OK. So the Wingback should be a WR?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 03:55:49 PM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/5/24/23736792/bears-running-back-david-montgomery-losing-sucked-the-fun-out-of-the-game-lions-cj-gardner-johnson

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The Bears offered Montgomery a new contract and were surprised that he chose to go to the Lions instead.

David Montgomery = Mn is a match?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 04:05:50 PM
I’m glad Montgomery is gone.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 04:20:55 PM
I’m glad Montgomery is gone.

Why?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 04:26:02 PM
Why?

Slow, and apparently mentally weak.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 25, 2023, 04:37:55 PM
Why?
B
They'll be better off without him.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 25, 2023, 04:40:32 PM
https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2023/5/24/23736792/bears-running-back-david-montgomery-losing-sucked-the-fun-out-of-the-game-lions-cj-gardner-johnson

Belichek must not have talked with Montgomery after the game.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 05:16:11 PM
Belichek must not have talked with Montgomery after the game.

Hahaha
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 07:00:51 PM
Belichek must not have talked with Montgomery after the game.

(https://i.postimg.cc/mrRChX1n/D400-D564-6-F69-4-A25-B224-51188-E98-FBF9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4qcNvz7)keyboard asus error (https://keyboardtester.co/keyboard-tester)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 07:01:07 PM
Hahaha

(https://i.postimg.cc/mrRChX1n/D400-D564-6-F69-4-A25-B224-51188-E98-FBF9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/v4qcNvz7)keyboard asus error (https://keyboardtester.co/keyboard-tester)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 07:52:29 PM
It was a good one Tempo
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 08:01:20 PM
It was a good one Tempo

No, it really wasn’t. It was 1st grade level “clever.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 25, 2023, 08:02:52 PM
I’m glad Montgomery is gone.

I don't know enough to really comment but I did kind of laugh when I saw the thing where he was like "glad to feel like I'm wanted".

Didn't they just jump way out to take an RB in the top half of the first round?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 08:09:24 PM
I don't know enough to really comment but I did kind of laugh when I saw the thing where he was like "glad to feel like I'm wanted".

Didn't they just jump way out to take an RB in the top half of the first round?

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 08:45:43 PM
I don't know enough to really comment but I did kind of laugh when I saw the thing where he was like "glad to feel like I'm wanted".

Didn't they just jump way out to take an RB in the top half of the first round?

The Lion did draft one. They also got rid of one too.

He's probably happy to be in an offense where the RBs are featured in the running plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 08:47:40 PM
No, it really wasn’t. It was 1st grade level “clever.”

It highlighted the absurdity of your original comment.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 09:20:04 PM
It highlighted the absurdity of your original comment.

What was absurd about it? It happened. Everyone saw it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 25, 2023, 09:20:42 PM
And it doesn’t need highlighting. You’ve repeated it 38x, plus your sig.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 25, 2023, 09:47:50 PM
And it doesn’t need highlighting. You’ve repeated it 38x, plus your sig.

It was a classic. Still is.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 12:33:22 AM
It was a classic. Still is.

If you say so, champ.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 07:13:27 AM
If you say so, champ.

It still makes me chuckle.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 07:46:05 AM
It still makes me chuckle.

It’s funny though that in your sig you mock something that 100% happened, and think that’s some kind of own.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 10:01:44 AM
It’s funny though that in your sig you mock something that 100% happened, and think that’s some kind of own.

Being excited that Belichick spoke with Flus and 'team culture" on the heels of a 12-7 loss to the Commanders was, and is, hilarious.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 10:09:30 AM
“Excited?” I merely mentioned that the GOAT had a lot of praise for the way Flus and the Bears were building things.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 10:10:48 AM
And again, you’re too stupid to realize that last years’ team was in no way “built to win.” They literally traded their two most valuable players days after a thrashing of the Patriots in Foxboro.

And mathematically still in the playoff picture.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 10:12:31 AM
And also again, if Darnell Mooney doesn’t double clutch a pass at the goal line the Bears would have won your obviously precious game against the Commanders.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 10:22:01 AM
The Lion did draft one. They also got rid of one too.

He's probably happy to be in an offense where the RBs are featured in the running plays.

Swift is a far better playmaker than Montgomery. I’m guessing they got tired of him missing games. But curiously, they never really let him have a full load. Even when he was healthy.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 10:54:37 AM
“Excited?” I merely mentioned that the GOAT had a lot of praise for the way Flus and the Bears were building things.

You were excited
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 26, 2023, 10:55:26 AM
Their backup having one of the highest YPC averages in the league probably played into that I'd think.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 12:31:08 PM
You were excited

Whatever you say, buckaroo.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 12:35:37 PM
Their backup having one of the highest YPC averages in the league probably played into that I'd think.

Sorry, not following.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 12:52:51 PM
Whatever you say, buckaroo.

You still are excited. Obviously.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 12:58:44 PM
DeAndre Hopkins available. If it were not the for the fact he has a crummy QB in AZ, I would think he was over the hill. Tempo? Any thoughts?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 01:32:57 PM
DeAndre Hopkins available. If it were not the for the fact he has a crummy QB in AZ, I would think he was over the hill. Tempo? Any thoughts?

Too old. Too expensive. No thanks.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 01:33:54 PM
Mike Evans, I’d eagerly sit down and talk about if I were Poles. I’d even bring up the fact that Belichick spoke to Flus.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 01:36:17 PM
Mike Evans, I’d eagerly sit down and talk about if I were Poles. I’d even bring up the fact that Belichick spoke to Flus.

Why Evans but not Hopkins? Isn't Hopkins but 1 year older?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 01:37:14 PM
DeAndre Hopkins available. If it were not the for the fact he has a crummy QB in AZ, I would think he was over the hill. Tempo? Any thoughts?

You once praised the Oklahoma quarterbacks (all of them) to support your point not long ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 01:42:17 PM
You once praised the Oklahoma quarterbacks (all of them) to support your point not long ago.

Holy crap. The sad part is you actually believe this. Perfect example of your strawman construction excellence. 

Quote
Quote from: Tempo34 on April 23, 2023, 05:08:07 PM
Man, if the Bears had just drafted 5 or 6 Oklahoma quarterbacks in the 1st round the last 30 years things would have been soooo much different.

No, it would not have. They were all systems guys.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 01:44:03 PM
You once praised the Oklahoma quarterbacks (all of them) to support your point not long ago.


Question for ThePAMan:

Let’s say Justin Fields has a terrible year and the Bears have the first pick in next years’ draft. Would you take a pass on Caleb Williams because Sam Darnold, Matt Leinart, Mark Sanchez, Cody Kessler, Matt Barkley, Rodney Peete, Sean Salisbury, Vince Evans and Todd Marinovich all sucked?

The difference is the different coaching staffs at USC which now has Lincoln Riley. A smarter question would have been using Riley's OK QBs as comps. But yes, given Riley as a common denominator of sorts, there should be pause for concern.

OSU has been consistent in the offense it has used since Urban. Ergo the problem with OSU QBs over time.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 01:45:37 PM
You once praised the Oklahoma quarterbacks (all of them) to support your point not long ago.

Yes. Lincoln Riley has a long history of developing successful NFL QBs.

List:

Jalen Hurts (1 year), who kind of sucked his first two years in the NFL.

Which is the point if you were not so blind.

Baker and Murray his guys too. Hurts was there a year?

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 01:47:15 PM
Maybe this was more of your after-the-fact sarcasm?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 01:49:33 PM
Impressive research skills. I think you finally won a point. Congrats, it’s been a while.

But I’m pretty sure you pointed at Oklahoma and Riley as a successful quarterback Factory. Wouldn’t doubt you made both points there. You sometimes argue both sides hoping you won’t get called on it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 02:22:35 PM
But I’m pretty sure you pointed at Oklahoma and Riley as a successful quarterback Factory.

Uh, I do not think so. I am not a "but it wouldn't surprise me..." guy. That's your shtick.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 03:31:16 PM
Uh, I do not think so. I am not a "but it wouldn't surprise me..." guy. That's your shtick.

And your schtick is telling me what my schtick is…it’s funny how I’m probably the only one here who routinely gets roasted for lukewarm takes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 04:09:22 PM
And your schtick is telling me what my schtick is…it’s funny how I’m probably the only one here who routinely gets roasted for lukewarm takes.

You do put yourself out there, which is admirable.

Spark and you both roast me for a few of my takes quite a bit. I'm a man, I'm over 40, I can take it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 04:22:25 PM
You do put yourself out there, which is admirable.

Spark and you both roast me for a few of my takes quite a bit. I'm a man, I'm over 40, I can take it.

My point was that I’m routinely roasted for my takes that aren’t even that hot or committal. I mean, I’ve been getting roasted daily for believing Justin Fields “could get better” for 9 months.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 04:42:38 PM
My point was that I’m routinely roasted for my takes that aren’t even that hot or committal. I mean, I’ve been getting roasted daily for believing Justin Fields “could get better” for 9 months.

I think you have gone beyond "could get better" in a few of your takes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 04:43:47 PM
My point was that I’m routinely roasted for my takes that aren’t even that hot or committal.

You are not committed to your takes? Are you HQ2's Skip Bayless?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 05:07:13 PM
I think you have gone beyond "could get better" in a few of your takes.

Ok, tell me what you’ve heard; or think you’ve heard.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 26, 2023, 07:29:38 PM
Ok, tell me what you’ve heard; or think you’ve heard.

All you need to remember is that IVMP, RIP, wrote a parody song on the topic...mic drop....

Tempo's small things
Troll craft, poo flings
He breaks no tips
Ube ride, worst trip

Always, crap show
He is never in the know
Stalking, trolling
Obfuscating

Say it ain't so
He does not know
Turns his brain off
Carries Fields home

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Blah-blah Blah-blah Blah-blah Blar-blah blah blah
Blah-blah Blah-blah Blah-blah Blar-blah blah blah

All night, thoughts low
Posts suck, I know
Poles picked up draft picks for the Bears
More losses let us know he cares

Say it ain't so
He does not know
Turns his brain off
Carries Fields home

Blah-blah Blah-blah Blah-blah Blar-blah blah blah
Blah-blah Blah-blah Blah-blah Blar-blah blah blah
Blah-blah Blah-blah Blah-blah Blar-blah blah blah
Blah-blah Blah-blah Blah-blah Blar-blah blah blah

Say it ain't so
He does not know
Turns his brain off
Carries Fields home

Still a buzzkill
He is no thrill
The fright will go on
Our broken windmill

Say it ain't so
He does not know
Turns his brain off
Carries Fields home

Still a buzzkill
He is no thrill
The fright will go on
Our broken windmill
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 09:11:05 PM
Yep, far exceeded any post or thoughts you’ve ever had.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 26, 2023, 09:12:13 PM
Can’t believe I missed it until now, but he stole most of that from Blink 182. Not nearly as impressive now.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 04:44:53 AM
Why Evans but not Hopkins? Isn't Hopkins but 1 year older?

I think Evans’ skillset better serves Fields. Bigger, more explosive. Still very good on all 3 levels, though. I think Hopkins is on the decline, and makes about 10 mil a year more than Evans. Didn’t realize Hopkins was cut,  though (apparently?). Hopkins to a team like KC or Jacksonville makes more sense than Chicago.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 04:46:06 AM
This seems to be the death knell for Kyler Murray. It appears the tank job for Caleb Williams is in full-go mode.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 27, 2023, 09:23:34 AM
Can’t believe I missed it until now, but he stole most of that from Blink 182. Not nearly as impressive now.

LOL
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 09:27:00 AM
LOL

Still good work, but he was given the template.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 27, 2023, 09:29:13 AM
Still good work, but he was given the template.

Of course. LOL.

Tempo not a fan of parody songs!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 09:36:28 AM
Of course. LOL.

Tempo not a fan of parody songs!

I said it was still good.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 27, 2023, 10:19:52 AM
Can’t believe I missed it until now, but he stole most of that from Blink 182. Not nearly as impressive now.

How did you miss that? He still came up with all the lyrics, just put them into an existing structure.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 10:31:50 AM
How did you miss that? He still came up with all the lyrics, just put them into an existing structure.

It’s very good work. But since not original falls a bit short of great.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 10:32:58 AM
For PAMan: maybe PAMan can rest a little easier knowing that Fields is putting in the work. Fluff piece you requested

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/justin-fields-personal-qb-coach-calls-him-fiercest-competitor
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 27, 2023, 01:36:25 PM
For PAMan: maybe PAMan can rest a little easier knowing that Fields is putting in the work. Fluff piece you requested

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/justin-fields-personal-qb-coach-calls-him-fiercest-competitor

Good to read. Hopefully has focused on film work this off season.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 02:21:30 PM
Good to read. Hopefully has focused on film work this off season.

I’m guessing his primary focus has been getting better at Call of Duty.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 27, 2023, 02:22:13 PM
I’m guessing his primary focus has been getting better at Call of Duty.

When he was not at Bulls games.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 02:54:11 PM
When he was not at Bulls games.

Zero fun allowed in life when you’re not where you need to be as a passer.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 02:55:43 PM
Still can’t believe Dwayne McClain used to go jogging when he could have been on the recruiting trail.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 27, 2023, 06:01:14 PM
Still can’t believe Dwayne McClain used to go jogging when he could have been on the recruiting trail.

Maybe Illinois would have won in 2005 if he was more focused.

And his name was Wayne. Unless you are referencing someone else.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on May 27, 2023, 07:20:08 PM
You’d think the Waynes would stick together.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 27, 2023, 07:26:16 PM
Maybe Illinois would have won in 2005 if he was more focused.

And his name was Wayne. Unless you are referencing someone else.

1) Ha
2) yeah, a bit sleep deprived lately (more than usual). Wayne. You’d think I’d catch that one
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 28, 2023, 12:49:25 AM
1) Ha
2) yeah, a bit sleep deprived lately (more than usual). Wayne. You’d think I’d catch that one

Why can't you sleep?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 28, 2023, 09:16:55 AM
Why can't you sleep?

Not sure. I’ve changed my schedule up a bit. Had a full nights’ sleep last night for the first time in a while. Sometimes I sleep for like 12 minutes then can’t get back to sleep.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 28, 2023, 12:19:54 PM
Can’t believe these rookies are cooking out when they should be doing squats and scouting the Lions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOP3w2U7OxU
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 28, 2023, 12:26:37 PM
https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2023/05/biggest-controlled-demolition-ever-in-arlington-heights-begins-heavy-equipment-staging-at-chicago-bears-property/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on May 28, 2023, 01:08:58 PM
Can’t believe these rookies are cooking out when they should be doing squats and scouting the Lions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOP3w2U7OxU

Better than gambling like the Lions.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 28, 2023, 01:19:54 PM
https://www.arlingtoncardinal.com/2023/05/biggest-controlled-demolition-ever-in-arlington-heights-begins-heavy-equipment-staging-at-chicago-bears-property/

The Bears going there was a done deal the second they bought the property.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: spark mandrill on May 28, 2023, 04:18:10 PM
Sorry, not following.

It's easier to not give your RB1 a 'full load' when you have a backup putting up great YPC numbers.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 29, 2023, 11:58:43 AM
Puff piece on DJ Moore. Apparently impressing at OTAs. Article is written by a woman though, so she couldn’t possibly know what the fuck she is talking about. But here it is, anyway:

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/05/29/chicago-bears-dj-moore-impression-2023-otas/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 29, 2023, 01:20:32 PM
Anyone ever seen a linebacker this skinny? Maybe he should be doing more squats.

(https://i.postimg.cc/dt3xFSgY/0-EE76-CA5-4-BEF-4-D14-AC19-5952-B6-C0-B352.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VpwFTzc)what is bbva compass (https://banks-nearme.com/bbva-compass-near-me)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 29, 2023, 01:33:44 PM
Anyone ever seen a linebacker this skinny? Maybe he should be doing more squats.

(https://i.postimg.cc/dt3xFSgY/0-EE76-CA5-4-BEF-4-D14-AC19-5952-B6-C0-B352.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/2VpwFTzc)what is bbva compass (https://banks-nearme.com/bbva-compass-near-me)

Well he’s actually proven he can play and do what’s required of his position…

So, what’s you point?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 29, 2023, 01:35:35 PM
Well he’s actually proven he can play and do what’s required of his position…

So, what’s you point?!

My point is he’s skinny…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 29, 2023, 01:36:24 PM
You must not be hanging out around here enough lately if you don’t get the “squats” reference.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 29, 2023, 01:41:25 PM
You must not be hanging out around here enough lately if you don’t get the “squats” reference.

Oh I get it. You also had intentions towards PMAN in there as a jab regarding Fields. Hence why I said what I said.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on May 29, 2023, 01:47:39 PM
The troll police are out in full-force for the holiday weekend.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on May 29, 2023, 01:53:32 PM
Just thought I’d point it out…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 01, 2023, 02:39:41 AM
Nice throw!

https://twitter.com/dave_bfr/status/1664064807572471809?t=EKAI5xGlWTxDf8l8wBCQ7w&s=19
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 01, 2023, 07:45:16 AM
Nice throw!

https://twitter.com/dave_bfr/status/1664064807572471809?t=EKAI5xGlWTxDf8l8wBCQ7w&s=19

Great throw. Would like to see it in real time versus slow motion.

It isn't May anymore, but it is only June.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 01, 2023, 09:55:16 AM
For the PAMan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1f-uAKO7hw
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 01, 2023, 04:54:55 PM
Tempo, Claypool is hurt. Thankfully it is only June.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 01, 2023, 04:59:14 PM
Tempo, does not sound like the Bear have their Stadium Game together yet.

https://www.dailyherald.com/sports/20230531/jim-odonnell-palatines-schwantz-among-those-perplexed-by-slow-forward-progress-of-the-bears
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 02, 2023, 11:04:16 AM
https://medium.com/letters-from-a-sports-fan/the-chicago-bears-will-be-the-biggest-surprise-of-2023-bb837982a2f5
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 02, 2023, 12:56:34 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/justin-fields-not-only-reason-optimism-around-2023-bears
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 01:43:53 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/justin-fields-not-only-reason-optimism-around-2023-bears

Josh Shrock looks like he is 12. 
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 01:46:37 PM
https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20230602/bears-looking-at-naperville-now-team-says-theyre-considering-sites-other-than-arlington-park

Hilarious....

Quote
Plans for the Chicago Bears to plant their goal posts in the suburbs took a surprising turn Friday afternoon when Naperville Mayor Scott Wehrli met with team President Kevin Warren to discuss the possibility of building a new NFL stadium in Naperville rather than Arlington Heights.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on June 02, 2023, 01:56:15 PM
https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/justin-fields-not-only-reason-optimism-around-2023-bears
"There's always optimism in May."

Lol

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:40:27 PM
"There's always optimism in May."

Lol

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 02, 2023, 02:42:48 PM
Josh Shrock looks like he is 12.

Looks like Parkins’ half-brother.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 02, 2023, 02:43:21 PM
WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?

Good question.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:43:44 PM
Looks like Parkins’ half-brother.

LOL. Betting he can throw a baseball better. Yeah, I know Parkins had back surgery, etc. etc.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 02, 2023, 02:44:21 PM
Good question.

Can it be taken in 5 different ways? If so, pick one. I promise I won't get mad.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 04, 2023, 11:57:53 AM
“Full-throated endorsement!” Lol

https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/bears-predicted-have-12-5-record-2023-nfl-network-analyst
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 04, 2023, 07:38:46 PM
It’s no longer May. What does that mean?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 05, 2023, 06:20:13 AM
It’s no longer May. What does that mean?

It means it's only June.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on June 05, 2023, 08:32:38 AM
So, this stadium thing is going to be a clown show, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 05, 2023, 12:53:21 PM
Ok, what does that mean? Mn, some help?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 06, 2023, 05:54:11 PM
Now this is how you handle a guy who’s driving without a license!

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-release-antonio-callaway-after-wr-reportedly-arrested-for-driving-with-suspended-license/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 06, 2023, 05:56:10 PM
Now this is how you handle a guy who’s driving without a license!

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/cowboys-release-antonio-callaway-after-wr-reportedly-arrested-for-driving-with-suspended-license/

Haha. Let me know when it happens to Dak Prescott or someone of his ilk!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 06, 2023, 06:36:16 PM
Haha. Let me know when it happens to Dak Prescott or someone of his ilk!

Byron Pringle is on the level of Dak Prescott?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 06, 2023, 08:30:26 PM
Byron Pringle is on the level of Dak Prescott?

For the Bear.... Maybe?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 10:34:43 AM
For the Bear.... Maybe?

Don’t think so.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 10:38:37 AM
Don’t think so.

In retrospect, definitely not.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: frankiew on June 07, 2023, 10:51:05 AM
6-11

BOOK IT
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 10:53:53 AM
In retrospect, definitely not.

It was never the case. Ever. Only an idiot would entertain the idea, actually.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 10:59:05 AM
It was never the case. Ever. Only an idiot would entertain the idea, actually.

Wasn't he the big WR splash hire at the time?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 11:30:35 AM
Wasn't he the big WR splash hire at the time?

“Splash?” Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 11:47:02 AM
“Splash?” Lol

Wasn't he?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 11:48:59 AM
Wasn't he?

You’d really call a guy who was 5th on his previous team in catches and signed to a one-year deal a “splash” hire? I sure as hell wouldn’t.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 11:49:56 AM
They basically took a flier on a guy they thought might have some upside.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 11:52:09 AM
You’d really call a guy who was 5th on his previous team in catches and signed to a one-year deal a “splash” hire? I sure as hell wouldn’t.

I don't know if I personally would, but didn't others? He was the 16th most important Bear last year per this dude....

https://www.shawlocal.com/bears/analysis/2022/07/01/top-25-most-important-bears-in-2022-no-16-byron-pringle/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 12:42:19 PM
I don't know if I personally would, but didn't others? He was the 16th most important Bear last year per this dude....

https://www.shawlocal.com/bears/analysis/2022/07/01/top-25-most-important-bears-in-2022-no-16-byron-pringle/

16th most important Bear on a team basically built to lose = Dak Prescott and “splash?”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 01:38:27 PM
16th most important Bear on a team basically built to lose = Dak Prescott and “splash?”

Were they actually built to lose from the start?

"Splash", eh, may be a bit much. But he was supposed to be more important (16th most important Bear!) than he wound up being. Fair enough?

He isn't Dak, obviously. But with the Bear, who is?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 01:44:04 PM
Were they actually built to lose from the start?

"Splash", eh, may be a bit much. But he was supposed to be more important (16th most important Bear!) than he wound up being. Fair enough?

He isn't Dak, obviously. But with the Bear, who is?

They certainly weren’t “built to win.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 01:45:09 PM
They certainly weren’t “built to win.”

We knew that. But they were not tanking from the start either.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 01:45:34 PM

"Splash", eh, may be a bit much. But he was supposed to be more important (16th most important Bear!) than he wound up being. Fair enough?


Which is the exact fucking point I was making that I got mocked for repeatedly this time last year…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 07, 2023, 01:47:11 PM
Which is the exact fucking point I was making that I got mocked for repeatedly this time last year…

He was the 16th most important Bear! You don't just toss him overboard for not having a license and doing donuts in the Walmart parking lot with a kid in the backseat. (Or whatever he was doing.)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 02:19:48 PM
He was an overpaid flier who got a sweetheart contract from his KC friend.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 07, 2023, 02:46:41 PM
About as interesting as roster/QB talk gets this time of year minus a signing.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bears-oc-luke-getsy-doesn-t-want-to-make-justin-fields-robotic-amid-qb-s-develop
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 08, 2023, 07:52:30 AM
About as interesting as roster/QB talk gets this time of year minus a signing.

https://www.nfl.com/news/bears-oc-luke-getsy-doesn-t-want-to-make-justin-fields-robotic-amid-qb-s-develop

It's only June, but I'm not sure this is what we want to be hearing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on June 08, 2023, 08:30:54 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/5LVTnXX/Screenshot-20230608-074317.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cQdJCKK)

Each day, and it's only June.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on June 08, 2023, 08:33:06 AM
(https://i.ibb.co/5LVTnXX/Screenshot-20230608-074317.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cQdJCKK)

Each day, and it's only June.

They should probably go ahead and start recording the next version of the super bowl shuffle now.

Between the Bears and the 2023 World Series champion White Sox, it's gonna be an exciting time.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on June 08, 2023, 08:52:37 AM
They should probably go ahead and start recording the next version of the super bowl shuffle now.

Maybe not quite yet.

(https://i.ibb.co/vVcF85Y/Screenshot-20230608-084804.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mbRj7s8)

And ....
"Another overthrow went to the opposite side of the field but to Velus Jones Jr. Again Stevenson was in coverage. Jones had a step on Stevenson but Fields sailed the ball out of the back of the end zone."

And .....
"The Bears had the quarterbacks (Fields, PJ Walker, Nathan Peterman and Tyson Bagent) line up at the 50-yard line and throw into a net placed at the 10 towards the left end zone. Each of the quarterbacks had more than a handful of attempts, but were only able to make one each. Quarterbacks coach Andrew Janocko got the final pass and nailed it on a walkoff throw."

But it's only June.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 08, 2023, 09:39:32 AM
Maybe not quite yet.

(https://i.ibb.co/vVcF85Y/Screenshot-20230608-084804.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mbRj7s8)

And ....
"Another overthrow went to the opposite side of the field but to Velus Jones Jr. Again Stevenson was in coverage. Jones had a step on Stevenson but Fields sailed the ball out of the back of the end zone."

And .....
"The Bears had the quarterbacks (Fields, PJ Walker, Nathan Peterman and Tyson Bagent) line up at the 50-yard line and throw into a net placed at the 10 towards the left end zone. Each of the quarterbacks had more than a handful of attempts, but were only able to make one each. Quarterbacks coach Andrew Janocko got the final pass and nailed it on a walkoff throw."

But it's only June.

I'll look on the bright side that no Bear O linemen were hurt by any of the Bear QB throws.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 08, 2023, 02:39:46 PM
Lol turds are gonna turd.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 08, 2023, 02:54:11 PM
Lol turds are gonna turd.

Who knew that Tempo does not believe in fair and balanced reporting?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 08, 2023, 02:59:59 PM
Who knew that Tempo does not believe in fair and balanced reporting?

It’s June.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 08, 2023, 03:00:14 PM
And why isn’t every pass he throws perfect?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 08, 2023, 04:22:21 PM
Maybe not quite yet.

(https://i.ibb.co/vVcF85Y/Screenshot-20230608-084804.jpg) (https://ibb.co/mbRj7s8)

And ....
"Another overthrow went to the opposite side of the field but to Velus Jones Jr. Again Stevenson was in coverage. Jones had a step on Stevenson but Fields sailed the ball out of the back of the end zone."

And .....
"The Bears had the quarterbacks (Fields, PJ Walker, Nathan Peterman and Tyson Bagent) line up at the 50-yard line and throw into a net placed at the 10 towards the left end zone. Each of the quarterbacks had more than a handful of attempts, but were only able to make one each. Quarterbacks coach Andrew Janocko got the final pass and nailed it on a walkoff throw."

But it's only June.

So does this mean Janocko is now #1 on the depth chart?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on June 08, 2023, 04:48:48 PM
So does this mean Janocko is now #1 on the depth chart?
Only on passing downs.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 08, 2023, 07:48:38 PM
Only on passing downs.

At least you tried.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 08, 2023, 08:06:50 PM
At least you tried.

It's only June for Mn too. He's concentrating on fishing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 11, 2023, 05:33:43 PM
I guess we could talk some Bears, but it’s only June.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 11, 2023, 06:27:12 PM
I guess we could talk some Bears, but it’s only June.

Chase Young not coming here?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on June 11, 2023, 06:32:18 PM
Bears going to be on Hard Knocks?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 11, 2023, 08:21:28 PM
Chase Young not coming here?

I would think that if the Commanders were actually looking to trade him, they’d have done it before the draft. That would have made a lot more sense.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 11, 2023, 08:22:03 PM
Bears going to be on Hard Knocks?

This could happen. Would be a good year for it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 12, 2023, 07:40:07 PM
It’s only June, but not a good sign that players are hanging out at TopGolf instead of studying film and the playbook.

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1668380922675068930?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 16, 2023, 10:25:55 AM
The Claypool trade was probably Poles’ biggest blunder so far. Maybe by a lot. Didn’t like it from day 1. There’s a reason the Steelers were happy to let him go.

I’m shocked Mike Evans is still a Buc. The Bucs aren’t winning anything this year. I’d be on the horn trying to get him if I were Poles.

https://twitter.com/profootballtalk/status/1669717587033300992?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 16, 2023, 12:14:16 PM
Lol love this headline

https://steelerswire.usatoday.com/2023/06/16/steelers-bears-chase-claypool-nfl/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 28, 2023, 01:27:40 PM
https://youtu.be/9yNnfgkzp2I
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 29, 2023, 02:47:13 AM
At the risk of triggering PAMan, Wanny praises Eberflus’ “culture.”

https://youtu.be/uhIpQwSf4uc
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 29, 2023, 03:52:19 AM
https://beargoggleson.com/posts/chicago-bears-reasons-over-projected-win-total-2023-01h3yfszzz81
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on June 29, 2023, 10:44:59 AM
https://youtu.be/hFJ0pTU26jA
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 03, 2023, 08:48:06 PM
Don’t see the point in trading him. Unless they are convinced he won’t make the team. You’re not going to get a good pick for him (4th or higher) I wouldn’t think. I hated the pick on draft day 2022 but might as well give him a shot. Not sure they have 6 other WRs totally worthy of spots over him. 4, but not 6.

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/velus-jones-trade-punt-kick-returner/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 03, 2023, 08:53:58 PM
LMAO Justin Fields not ready for prime time!

https://www.yardbarker.com/nascar/articles/bears_qb_criticized_for_unenthusiastic_start_command_to_nascar_race/s1_13132_38981570
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 05, 2023, 01:35:25 PM
Looks like PAMan’s worries are for naught. Fields watching film confirmed.

“Just kind of how dedicated he is," Scott told NBC Sports Chicago on the latest episode of the Under Center Podcast. "We were on our way to the United Center one day for a team outing, and he got on a bus, and we're kind of sitting next to each other, and the whole bus ride, he had his iPad out, and he was watching film from practice, the whole time watching film. Everybody else is on our phones or talking it up, and he was sitting in front of us watching film.

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/how-justin-fields-rare-gestures-impressed-bears-rookie-tyler-scott/493587/?fbclid=IwAR0iaGN6ot4g8Cr6_-9k121CZipZUu8mm5UsQPhIy5vIoNA2AXNyhLfAk-E_aem_AVTvf1GR_yGrxvDob7HVljH39vR3h9Nk78wPNIPhvBxCglWmCkTmxwrqoGJE4NENTHU&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#ljq24egmvnqx0vwyb4
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 07, 2023, 11:38:35 AM
This article was published yesterday, but I feel like I read it 6 months ago.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/familiar-source-of-criticism-for-justin-fieldsIt
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 08, 2023, 03:14:54 PM
So much ignorant analysis out there.

https://www.facebook.com/100044219719978/posts/pfbid02YU5hEap3osuQoPZiTqEmL3qjnnDEimak4GoLujnguSZWiSnzB5ZLtYaYfCdae5s3l/?mibextid=cr9u03
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 08, 2023, 04:46:10 PM
So much ignorant analysis out there.

https://www.facebook.com/100044219719978/posts/pfbid02YU5hEap3osuQoPZiTqEmL3qjnnDEimak4GoLujnguSZWiSnzB5ZLtYaYfCdae5s3l/?mibextid=cr9u03

They did come in last his first season at the helm.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 08, 2023, 05:13:42 PM
At the risk of triggering PAMan, Wanny praises Eberflus’ “culture.”

https://youtu.be/uhIpQwSf4uc

Waap, sounds like all the pieces are in place!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 08, 2023, 05:14:22 PM
This article was published yesterday, but I feel like I read it 6 months ago.

https://www.si.com/nfl/bears/news/familiar-source-of-criticism-for-justin-fieldsIt

404 Error when I clicked on it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 08, 2023, 05:15:31 PM
Looks like PAMan’s worries are for naught. Fields watching film confirmed.

“Just kind of how dedicated he is," Scott told NBC Sports Chicago on the latest episode of the Under Center Podcast. "We were on our way to the United Center one day for a team outing, and he got on a bus, and we're kind of sitting next to each other, and the whole bus ride, he had his iPad out, and he was watching film from practice, the whole time watching film. Everybody else is on our phones or talking it up, and he was sitting in front of us watching film.

https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/how-justin-fields-rare-gestures-impressed-bears-rookie-tyler-scott/493587/?fbclid=IwAR0iaGN6ot4g8Cr6_-9k121CZipZUu8mm5UsQPhIy5vIoNA2AXNyhLfAk-E_aem_AVTvf1GR_yGrxvDob7HVljH39vR3h9Nk78wPNIPhvBxCglWmCkTmxwrqoGJE4NENTHU&mibextid=Zxz2cZ#ljq24egmvnqx0vwyb4

Hopefully he didn't wait to start watching film until now!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on July 08, 2023, 06:41:34 PM
They did come in last his first season at the helm.
Meaningless
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 09, 2023, 01:40:02 PM
They did come in last his first season at the helm.

JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 09, 2023, 02:18:09 PM
Meaningless

LMMFAO
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 09, 2023, 02:21:37 PM
You two have to be the densest people here. For the 250th time. A team that trades away their top two veterans after a road win, and is already starting a large group of one year stop gap players literally isn’t placing the emphasis on “winning.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 09, 2023, 02:23:43 PM
The only team you could argue had less talent than the Bears last year was Houston. But “Flus finished last in his first year.” lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 09, 2023, 05:04:36 PM
I do recall the time Belichick spoke with Eberlose and admired the Bear Culture after the Pats game.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on July 09, 2023, 07:47:08 PM
I do recall the time Belichick spoke with Eberlose and admired the Bear Culture after the Pats game.

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 09, 2023, 11:23:58 PM
The fact that you two think that's a clever response is everything. PAMan  calling someone else a meatball is the ultimate in unintentional comedy.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 09, 2023, 11:43:45 PM
3 things that DEFINITELY happened last year.

1) The Bears started the season with a bottom 3 roster in the NFL.
2) Ryan Poles intentionally made it worse in-season.
3) Bill Belichick praised Eberflus for "doing things the right way."

PAMan: "Lololololol But where were the wins?"
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 10, 2023, 07:39:32 AM
3 things that DEFINITELY happened last year.

1) The Bears started the season with a bottom 3 roster in the NFL.
2) Ryan Poles intentionally made it worse in-season.
3) Bill Belichick praised Eberflus for "doing things the right way."

PAMan: "Lololololol But where were the wins?"

I recall that only losing 12 - 9 to the Commander was a great coaching job by Flus.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 10:56:25 AM
I recall that only losing 12 - 9 to the Commander was a great coaching job by Flus.

Again, you are a textbook meatball.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 11:01:19 AM
"How can Flus be any good? He lost 12-7 to the Commanders..." - Renowned football expert
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 11:15:22 AM
 The Bears dominated the game statistically, but lost the turnover battle 0-2. But what does a close loss  loss to another bad team in a single game say about the coach? Very little. "If I just catch the damn ball the first time, we win." - Darnell Mooney

https://youtu.be/c-yjdwix59Y
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on July 10, 2023, 11:22:56 AM
Everybody who plays in a loss can probably say 'if I only would have ......'
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 11:28:15 AM
Lolololololololololololololololololololololololololol…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 11:29:28 AM
If Fields had been picked off on that play I’d be willing to bet you’re outlook wouldn’t be, “Oh well, we lost collectively.” What a joke.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 10, 2023, 12:28:16 PM
"How can Flus be any good? He lost 12-7 to the Commanders..." - Renowned football expert

It was even worse than I recalled. Must have been due to the bleeding eyes when watching that game.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 10, 2023, 12:30:03 PM
If Fields had been picked off on that play I’d be willing to bet you’re outlook wouldn’t be, “Oh well, we lost collectively.” What a joke.

Mooney's W-L record as a starter probably sucks.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on July 10, 2023, 12:39:55 PM
Butt hurt over a CBS worst coach ranking and a loss 9 months ago. Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on July 10, 2023, 02:00:53 PM
Let me settle the debate once and for all:

It is true the Bears had little talent and weren’t going to win many games regardless.

It is also true that Fields hasn’t shown much at all as a passer to give many people hope that he’s going to flip the switch.

Now let it go and let’s see how it plays out.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on July 10, 2023, 02:22:12 PM
Let me settle the debate once and for all:

It is true the Bears had little talent and weren’t going to win many games regardless.

It is also true that Fields hasn’t shown much at all as a passer to give many people hope that he’s going to flip the switch.

Now let it go and let’s see how it plays out.

Thank you
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 05:09:22 PM
It was even worse than I recalled. Must have been due to the bleeding eyes when watching that game.

Yes, because 12-7 is dramatically worse than 12-9.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 10, 2023, 05:31:29 PM
Yes, because 12-7 is dramatically worse than 12-9.

The use of "dramatically" is straw. I just typed "worse." Yes, 12 - 7 is worse than 12 - 9.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 10, 2023, 06:19:10 PM
Well, Fitzee will now have no qualms taking the Bear job
next year when they move on from Flus.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 06:52:04 PM
The use of "dramatically" is straw. I just typed "worse." Yes, 12 - 7 is worse than 12 - 9.

Yep. “Even worse.” A whole 2 points. Proof positive Eberlose can’t coach.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 06:54:05 PM
Well, Fitzee will now have no qualms taking the Bear job
next year when they move on from Flus.

Which gets back to your apparent “Fitz was always clearly a bad guy” take. He was rumored to be a candidate for the Bears and Packers. I don’t think he was a super serious candidate, but he was widely thought of as a “character guy, leader of men” type. Apparently he had almost everyone fooled.

What are his NFL players saying?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 10, 2023, 07:00:55 PM
Yep. “Even worse.” A whole 2 points. Proof positive Eberlose can’t coach.

Yes, it was "even worse" than I thought, but I never  claimed it was dramatically worse than 12-9. Nonetheless, I can understand why you interpreted as such.

We shall see if his culture building can extend from watching practice film on the team bus.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 07:03:56 PM
Yep. It was “even worse.”

I’m curious to see what he can do now that he has an actual NFL roster.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 10, 2023, 07:05:25 PM
Which gets back to your apparent “Fitz was always clearly a bad guy” take. He was rumored to be a candidate for the Bears and Packers. I don’t think he was a super serious candidate, but he was widely thought of as a “character guy, leader of men” type. Apparently he had almost everyone fooled.

What are his NFL players saying?

I always assumed his Bear/Packer job schtick was just to get more money and years from NU and not very serious from the Bear or Packer.

I think there are a few who saw through his bullshit all these years.

I feel uneasy with some of  the similarities I see between Underachiever and Fitzee.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 10, 2023, 07:46:38 PM
I don’t think Fitz as a Packers or Bears candidate was ever likely to end with his hiring, but I don’t think it was entirely made up. He’s absolutely the kind of guy the McCaskeys would have hired.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 14, 2023, 08:47:10 PM
But is he watching film?

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/14/bears-justin-fields-holds-offseason-workout-florida-darnell-mooney/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 14, 2023, 09:06:02 PM
But is he watching film?

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/07/14/bears-justin-fields-holds-offseason-workout-florida-darnell-mooney/

At night,  hopefully. 

Hopefully no linemen were hit in the back of the head by any throws.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 15, 2023, 10:25:37 AM
https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/kevin-warren-bears-aim-to-have-the-most-advanced-stadium-ever
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 15, 2023, 11:03:25 PM
No mention of the film room.

https://youtu.be/33cJqTGEk0E
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 17, 2023, 01:57:19 PM
PAMan should like this one.

Probably Poles’ biggest mistake so far. It could work out, but I’m not that optimistic.

https://www.steelernation.com/2023/07/17/steelers-chase-claypool-immaturity-shines-bright
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on July 17, 2023, 02:37:51 PM
PAMan should like this one.

Probably Poles’ biggest mistake so far. It could work out, but I’m not that optimistic.

https://www.steelernation.com/2023/07/17/steelers-chase-claypool-immaturity-shines-bright

Yes, it is his fault The Wingback was holding onto the ball too long when he was not throwing it into the back of his linemen's heads.

But, yes, I am expecting this to all be cleaned up given all the positive press and, with a favorable schedule and the Norris Division of the NFL sucking, for the Bear to go 14-3 and to the playoffs! Go Bears!  Already ordered the NFL package from The YouTubeTV.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on July 17, 2023, 05:58:32 PM
Lol JFC
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 12, 2023, 10:41:45 AM
Tempo, what should we expect to see today?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 12, 2023, 11:31:06 AM
Tempo, what should we expect to see today?

A lot of back ups.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 12, 2023, 12:03:28 PM
Fields is not going to play at all?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 12, 2023, 12:10:54 PM
Fields is not going to play at all?

I think i heard he was playing. I wouldn’t expect it to more than a couple possessions.

This run defense looks atrocious.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 12, 2023, 12:12:27 PM
Nice play by Gordon. He’s been showing in camp according to reports.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 12, 2023, 12:12:49 PM
This challenge could be close.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 12, 2023, 12:13:15 PM
Textbook hit by Gordon.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 12, 2023, 12:22:45 PM
Paging Dr. In the Flat!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 12, 2023, 12:25:04 PM
Super Bears Super Bowl!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: DoctorIntheFlat on August 12, 2023, 12:28:37 PM
Paging Dr. In the Flat!

I approve. DJ Moore is good.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 12, 2023, 12:53:03 PM
Cut Velus Jones Jr please
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 12, 2023, 12:58:35 PM
Cut Velus Jones Jr please

Hated that pick the minute they made it. Classic case of falling in love with an athlete. Any guy who is in college 6 years and only has one good year is not good at football. Horrible pick by Poles.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 15, 2023, 12:26:38 PM
Ignorant female talks Bears (or tries to)! I heard she used to work at the Jewels on N. Broadway.

https://x.com/ggabefootball/status/1691188793011748865?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on August 15, 2023, 12:35:32 PM
Thanks for warning me so I didn’t click the link
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 15, 2023, 12:53:44 PM
Thanks for warning me so I didn’t click the link

Of course. Wouldn’t want you subjected to the ignorant ramblings of a female. They should be seen, not heard.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 15, 2023, 01:12:37 PM
Of course. Wouldn’t want you subjected to the ignorant ramblings of a female. They should be seen, not heard.

They should be sucking my dick.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 15, 2023, 01:44:40 PM
They should be sucking my dick.

Someone’s at least. Amirite?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 15, 2023, 03:30:58 PM
They should be sucking my dick.

Whores. Dumb whores, I should say. Dumb whores who couldn’t possibly know anything about football.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 15, 2023, 07:18:40 PM
Whores. Dumb whores, I should say. Dumb whores who couldn’t possibly know anything about football.

I was just saying they should be sucking my dick. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 15, 2023, 08:32:40 PM
I was just saying they should be sucking my dick. Lol

Exactly. And don’t try to talk to us about anything you know nothing about, like football. Whores.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 16, 2023, 10:05:56 AM
Exactly. And don’t try to talk to us about anything you know nothing about, like football. Whores.

Hard for them to talk about anything with my cock in their mouth.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 16, 2023, 10:46:39 AM
Hard for them to talk about anything with my cock in their mouth.

Very underrated point…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 18, 2023, 02:31:24 PM
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-colts-joint-practice-takeaways-day-2-justin-fields-anthony-richardson-kyler-gordon/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 18, 2023, 03:57:27 PM
https://bearswire.usatoday.com/lists/bears-colts-joint-practice-takeaways-day-2-justin-fields-anthony-richardson-kyler-gordon/

Don't you think we should be beyond the "7-on-7" stories at this point?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 18, 2023, 06:59:32 PM
Don't you think we should be beyond the "7-on-7" stories at this point?

Yeah, but I don’t run practice.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 18, 2023, 07:03:14 PM
Yeah, but I don’t run practice.

I'm disappointed he is not playing tomorrow.

I am skeptical they are doing him any favors.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 18, 2023, 09:04:20 PM
I’d like to see him play, too. But I don’t think it’ll make him better or worse this year. I’m just anxious to see how he and the offense look. I highly doubt 4 years from now we’ll be looking back and thinking, “man if Fields had just played a couple series in that 2nd preseason game…”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 18, 2023, 11:20:28 PM
I’d like to see him play, too. But I don’t think it’ll make him better or worse this year. I’m just anxious to see how he and the offense look. I highly doubt 4 years from now we’ll be looking back and thinking, “man if Fields had just played a couple series in that 2nd preseason game…”

Given that he didn't throw any medium passes last week, I'd like to see that this week in a game situation. If he screws up, then they know they have to coach him up.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 19, 2023, 09:12:06 AM
Given that he didn't throw any medium passes last week, I'd like to see that this week in a game situation. If he screws up, then they know they have to coach him up.

I would imagine they will/are always trying to coach him up.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 19, 2023, 10:16:16 AM
Some hilarious Justin Fields talk here. I like how Shady couldn’t name Fields’ receivers. Some reasonable points made on both sides, but James Jones destroys Shady at the end. Long, but funny and entertaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnWBrWnBQh0
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 19, 2023, 10:45:55 AM
I would imagine they will/are always trying to coach him up.

True, but practice is not game play, even exhibition games
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 19, 2023, 11:24:55 AM
Given that he didn't throw any medium passes last week, I'd like to see that this week in a game situation. If he screws up, then they know they have to coach him up.
It seems as tho we've heard this 'he can just stand on the sidelines and watch and learn from the brain trust.'
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 19, 2023, 11:36:03 AM
It seems as tho we've heard this 'he can just stand on the sidelines and watch and learn from the brain trust.'

That does not apply to exhibition games and he should know the offense at this point.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 19, 2023, 01:12:20 PM
That does not apply to exhibition games and he should know the offense at this point.
Well, I share your skepticism over not giving the starting qb of a 3 win team, and other starters, some culture time.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 19, 2023, 06:56:51 PM
Wut.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 19, 2023, 06:58:03 PM
It seems as tho we've heard this 'he can just stand on the sidelines and watch and learn from the brain trust.'

PAMan advocated for him to do that all of last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 19, 2023, 11:21:09 PM
Totally forgot about the Bear being on
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on August 20, 2023, 12:17:35 AM
🤣
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ILLove1997 on August 20, 2023, 12:38:42 AM
Totally forgot about the Bear being on

 !!!!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on August 20, 2023, 12:47:58 AM
The jokes write themselves, really.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 20, 2023, 05:49:45 AM
Totally forgot about the Bear being on
golds! golds! golds!
More than 1 certain somebody took the night off. Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 20, 2023, 10:27:38 AM
The jokes write themselves, really.

What was the joke in this scenario?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 20, 2023, 10:28:19 AM
golds! golds! golds!
More than 1 certain somebody took the night off. Lol

Not a lot of reason to tune in if most of the starters aren’t playing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 20, 2023, 10:30:26 AM
[Finally, to all of the Bears fans who willingly watched this entire game, we salute you. Without Justin Fields and most starters, it was already going to lack the luster from last week. But considering how bad things got — with the exception of that one drive where Tyson Bagent and Roschon Johnson saved us from misery for a few minutes — it’s truly impressive if you were able to get through that entire game.]

Sounds like I missed some crucial shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 20, 2023, 11:36:29 AM
[Finally, to all of the Bears fans who willingly watched this entire game, we salute you. Without Justin Fields and most starters, it was already going to lack the luster from last week. But considering how bad things got — with the exception of that one drive where Tyson Bagent and Roschon Johnson saved us from misery for a few minutes — it’s truly impressive if you were able to get through that entire game.]

Sounds like I missed some crucial shit.

Have been counting on you for a Bear depth chart.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 20, 2023, 12:39:00 PM
Have been counting on you for a Bear depth chart.

You’ve come to the wrong place. I’m only reading Bears news that’s at the top of the surface. Too much else going on. Plus, golf still gets most of my sports attention.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 20, 2023, 12:39:37 PM
I’ll start diving a little deeper in a couple weeks.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 20, 2023, 10:11:06 PM
I’ll start diving a little deeper in a couple weeks.

I'm counting on you for a gambling picks thread this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 21, 2023, 08:39:22 AM
I'm counting on you for a gambling picks thread this year.

If you are interested in PGA, PGA DFS, or PGA prop bets, I might be above average there. I did dominate my work confidence pool years ago. I may be ok at NFL fantasy and DFS. If you’re looking for against the spread, not sure how much help I’d be.

I hear the real edge is in college DFS right now.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 21, 2023, 08:52:35 AM
Yikes. Tevin Jenkins could miss 6 weeks. Decent player, can’t stay on the field.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/8/20/23839627/chicago-bears-report-teven-jenkins-miss-6-weeks-leg-injury-lucas-patrick-ja-tyre-carter-nate-davis
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 21, 2023, 02:53:53 PM
Yikes. Tevin Jenkins could miss 6 weeks. Decent player, can’t stay on the field.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2023/8/20/23839627/chicago-bears-report-teven-jenkins-miss-6-weeks-leg-injury-lucas-patrick-ja-tyre-carter-nate-davis

May have to revise my 14-3 record prediction. On the bright side, it gives Eberlose another excuse if things do not go well offensively.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 21, 2023, 03:41:30 PM
I think there is more work needs to be done to shore up both lines.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Miles Leonard on August 21, 2023, 09:07:44 PM
Teven Jenkins and getting injured. Name a more iconic duo.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 21, 2023, 09:29:33 PM
Teven Jenkins and getting injured. Name a more iconic duo.

Yoan Moncada and getting injured. Eloy and pulled hamstring. Aaron Bummer and sucking....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Miles Leonard on August 21, 2023, 10:00:19 PM
Yoan Moncada and getting injured. Eloy and pulled hamstring. Aaron Bummer and sucking....

Well played
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 22, 2023, 08:13:40 AM
The dude's last name is Bummer for fuck's sake. How could he possibly not suck?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 23, 2023, 02:32:36 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/J0DNv6cq/501-A3-C4-F-1-D1-F-4317-8-F21-2026-D05584-F9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnTnJh1w)

Jarret Payton will apparently induct him, handpicked by Mongo.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 23, 2023, 02:41:56 PM
At least they didn't wait until he was dead, like the baseball people did with Santo.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ILLove1997 on August 23, 2023, 02:45:57 PM
At least they didn't wait until he was dead, like the baseball people did with Santo.

well the two of them have one thing in common
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 23, 2023, 02:46:19 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/J0DNv6cq/501-A3-C4-F-1-D1-F-4317-8-F21-2026-D05584-F9.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/jnTnJh1w)

Jarret Payton will apparently induct him, handpicked by Mongo.

Great news! And yes Jobu, I’m glad they didn’t wait either.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: frankiew on August 23, 2023, 02:46:38 PM
Well deserved!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on August 24, 2023, 04:10:12 AM
I have a picture of myself with Mongo circa 2009. He was in a bar in my hometown watching a bears game on a Sunday afternoon.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 06:56:57 AM
Noice.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 06:57:20 AM
I had a pic with Doug Buffone. Lost it a long time ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 24, 2023, 08:57:38 AM
I have a picture of myself with Mongo circa 2009. He was in a bar in my hometown watching a bears game on a Sunday afternoon.

Really cool.

I’ve got one with Mongo, Hampton, and I. They were playing a concert as the Chicago 8. Otis Wilson was sick and couldn’t make it. Great memory. About 4 years ago.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 11:42:51 AM
Ran into Otis at the snack shop between nines at Orchard Valley in Aurora years ago. No picture.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 24, 2023, 12:06:49 PM
Fields needs reps, Tempo. He needs to make mistakes that they can teach on preseason. That is why he needs to play Sat.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 12:41:43 PM
Fields needs reps, Tempo. He needs to make mistakes that they can teach on preseason. That is why he needs to play Sat.

It’s not going to make a difference in how he plays this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 12:47:01 PM
I would argue he needs to play to increase sharpness heading into the regular season. I think “teaching moments,” are pretty much done until they’ve played game 1.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 24, 2023, 01:01:15 PM
It’s not going to make a difference in how he plays this year.

Are you saying he is not coachable? I do not believe you believe that.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 24, 2023, 01:02:29 PM
I would argue he needs to play to increase sharpness heading into the regular season. I think “teaching moments,” are pretty much done until they’ve played game 1.

I would argue he needs reps as I do not believe he has played enough in an NFL-style offense (that will allow him to survive a full season).
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 02:09:17 PM
Are you saying he is not coachable? I do not believe you believe that.

Odd that you’d come to that conclusion. I’m saying playing 25 snaps against whoever they play this week isn’t going to make or break him this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 02:20:22 PM
Fields is playing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 24, 2023, 02:49:57 PM
I would argue he needs reps as I do not believe he has played enough in an NFL-style offense (that will allow him to survive a full season).
The finely tuned machine is going out for a test run.

"The Chicago Bears are using Saturday’s preseason finale against the Buffalo Bills as an opportunity for their starters to get some work in."

"it will be a good opportunity for the starters to get one final tune-up before the regular season begins."

"While it remains to be seen how long the starters play, fans will be excited to see them get some run before the backups take over."

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/24/bears-starters-to-play-in-final-preseason-game-vs-bills/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 03:02:16 PM
The finely tuned machine is going out for a test run.

"The Chicago Bears are using Saturday’s preseason finale against the Buffalo Bills as an opportunity for their starters to get some work in."

"it will be a good opportunity for the starters to get one final tune-up before the regular season begins."

"While it remains to be seen how long the starters play, fans will be excited to see them get some run before the backups take over."

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2023/08/24/bears-starters-to-play-in-final-preseason-game-vs-bills/


Yeah, I already reported “the finely tuned machine is going out for a test run.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 24, 2023, 03:09:24 PM

Yeah, I already reported “the finely tuned machine is going out for a test run.”

Just goes to show he DOESN’T read all your JFC posts like you stated…

Always trust content from PenisMan!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 24, 2023, 03:17:47 PM
Just goes to show he DOESN’T read all your JFC posts like you stated…

Always trust content from PenisMan!
I read it.
I thought ThePAMan would appreciate some quotes regarding the situation.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 24, 2023, 03:26:58 PM
I appreciate the efforts of everyone in this thread.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 03:37:36 PM
He just wanted to get in a dig on Fields. Are we sure Mn is a Bears fan? He’s more anti-Fields than PAMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 24, 2023, 03:42:38 PM
He just wanted to get in a dig on Fields. Are we sure Mn is a Bears fan? He’s more anti-Fields than PAMan.

I think Mn may be a Viking fan.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 24, 2023, 03:44:04 PM
Odd that you’d come to that conclusion. I’m saying playing 25 snaps against whoever they play this week isn’t going to make or break him this year.

That is why I asked and said that I did not believe that you believed he was uncoachable.

25-30 snaps is more than 3-5 minutes!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 24, 2023, 04:05:18 PM
I’d like to see Fields get some action at game speed to tune up for regular season. I don’t think playing or not playing affects his entire year or development.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 24, 2023, 05:23:22 PM
He might not play.
.
He doesn't have to/shouldn't play.

He's playing.

Fans can get excited again.
 
Lol.
It wasn't meant to be a shot at Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 24, 2023, 05:40:08 PM
He might not play.
.
He doesn't have to/shouldn't play.

He's playing.

Fans can get excited again.
 
Lol.
It wasn't meant to be a shot at Fields.

Seems like it was more of a shot at Belichick for praising Eberlose's culture after the Patriot game.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 24, 2023, 05:44:04 PM
I’d like to see Fields get some action at game speed to tune up for regular season. I don’t think playing or not playing affects his entire year or development.

Why does he need a tune up for the regular season if it will not affect his entire year or development? What am I missing here?

This division is for the taking, as it was last year. If he is merely competent throwing the ball do you think they have a good chance to make the playoffs? If he runs around like the last half of last year and cannot throw the ball consistently, odds are he get hurts, misses time, and they suck ass again. You agree? Disagree?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 01:50:57 AM
“The finely tuned machine is going out for a test run.” Not a dig on Fields - Mn

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 01:51:30 AM
Sounds like 4 of the Bears top 6 O-lineman will miss Saturday’s game. Yikes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 01:53:12 AM
Why does he need a tune up for the regular season if it will not affect his entire year or development? What am I missing here?

This division is for the taking, as it was last year. If he is merely competent throwing the ball do you think they have a good chance to make the playoffs? If he runs around like the last half of last year and cannot throw the ball consistently, odds are he get hurts, misses time, and they suck ass again. You agree? Disagree?

It could affect the way he plays in the first half of the first game. Or even the first game. After that, I don’t think it matters. Of course, this is all opinion and not provable or disprovable.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 04:33:46 AM
Just gave an early morning airport ride to a woman (butch as fuck, said she had a wife, not that that matters), said she works as a sous chef for the Bears. Got some interesting tidbits:

1) McCaskeys are cheap and Kevin Warren is trying to get them to open the purse strings.

2) Andy Reid likes 3 hot dogs (not Chicago style) served on China with real silverware.

3) Asked her who her favorite player was. She responded “I’m a Falcons fan.” She’s originally from Savannah so makes sense. I rephrased the question and asked “Who’s the nicest, who do you like the most?” She said Justin Fields.

4) Mentioned that Justin eats very clean. Still a vegetarian. Although I mentioned he was supposed to be Vegan and she said “oh yeah.” He’s a clean eater anyway.

5) Said Poles and Warren are nice guys.

6) Has done some work in Cleveland and met LeBron.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 04:42:27 AM
Boom. She just left a $25 tip!

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmDyvPJ4/43-B425-AF-2-B22-4-AA0-AA6-B-B0-C3372-D18-B3.png) (https://postimg.cc/DS20TXNh)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 04:43:18 AM
Apparently she’s not as cheap as the McCaskeys.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 25, 2023, 06:42:45 AM
“The finely tuned machine is going out for a test run.” Not a dig on Fields - Mn


A machine is generally more than just 1 part.

4 of the 6 top OL may miss the game.
The OL who do play tomorrow may very well be the OL for game 1 and then some. Some reps with the 1st string might just be advantageous.
The starters will play also includes the 1st string on defense.

Don't be so butthurt about TheQB playing tomorrow at 12N, when he should be playing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 07:02:00 AM
A machine is generally more than just 1 part.

4 of the 6 top OL may miss the game.
The OL who do play tomorrow may very well be the OL for game 1 and then some. Some reps with the 1st string might just be advantageous.
The starters will play also includes the 1st string on defense.

Don't be so butthurt about TheQB playing tomorrow at 12N, when he should be playing.

Why would I be butt hurt? I’m about 99% sure I said I’d prefer he played some.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 07:04:13 AM
I would argue he needs to play to increase sharpness heading into the regular season. I think “teaching moments,” are pretty much done until they’ve played game 1.

Maybe Mn should read my posts before commenting.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 07:06:59 AM
I’d like to see Fields get some action at game speed to tune up for regular season. I don’t think playing or not playing affects his entire year or development.



Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 07:08:20 AM
I think he should have played week 2 as well.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 07:32:54 AM
Tempo again proving that you should always trust content from ThePenisTheyMan.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 07:36:18 AM
Apparently she’s not as cheap as the McCaskeys.

Nice! Maybe it was your knowledge of Justin Fields' eating habits that swayed her!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 07:56:58 AM
Tempo again proving that you should always trust content from ThePenisTheyMan.

Trust me, he’s reading my shit. He wouldn’t dream of missing a chance to get snarky.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 25, 2023, 08:57:58 AM
Boom. She just left a $25 tip!

(https://i.postimg.cc/GmDyvPJ4/43-B425-AF-2-B22-4-AA0-AA6-B-B0-C3372-D18-B3.png) (https://postimg.cc/DS20TXNh)

Congrats. Take the rest of the day off.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 25, 2023, 09:09:55 AM
Maybe Mn should read my posts before commenting.

Apparently I was wrong and he DOES read all of them…

Always trust content from PenisMan, until you can’t!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 25, 2023, 09:40:57 AM
Apparently I was wrong and he DOES read all of them…

Always trust content from PenisMan, until you can’t!
Reading the shit and clicking on the links are 2 separate issues.

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 10:13:06 AM
Congrats. Take the rest of the day off.

Was a million percent sure Jobu would take a jab. Oh so predictable.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 10:37:19 AM
Was a million percent sure Jobu would take a jab. Oh so predictable.

You would be disappointed otherwise
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on August 25, 2023, 10:42:13 AM
Was a million percent sure Jobu would take a jab. Oh so predictable.

To be fair, you do tee it up for him on the reg.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 10:50:21 AM
To be fair, you do tee it up for him on the reg.

Derp!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 10:51:33 AM
You would be disappointed otherwise

No, no I wouldn’t.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 25, 2023, 11:07:29 AM
That "jab" was relatively harmless lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 11:45:35 AM
A jab nonetheless.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 12:37:35 PM
I’d have zero problem with this if he’s cheap.

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/trey-lance-trade-rumors-justin-fields/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 25, 2023, 01:43:54 PM
A jab nonetheless.

Would you like an apology?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 01:44:31 PM
Would you like an apology?

Only if you mean it. So, I guess not.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 01:48:22 PM
I’d have zero problem with this if he’s cheap.

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/trey-lance-trade-rumors-justin-fields/

Now, Jobu, this take is jab worthy. Trey Lance sucks regardless of the cost.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 01:49:22 PM
Now, Jobu, this take is jab worthy. Trey Lance sucks regardless of the cost.

Worth a flier for a physically gifted backup/project. You think you’re getting someone better for a 5th/6th rounder?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 01:53:13 PM
Worth a flier for a physically gifted backup/project. You think you’re getting someone better for a 5th/6th rounder?

The current 49er QB1 says "Hello!"
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 25, 2023, 01:53:33 PM
From today's fishwrap ......
Not an accurate passer and that's not an easy thing to fix but he runs good.

(https://i.ibb.co/86Zb74H/20230825-134939.png) (https://ibb.co/bz9FKRk)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 01:54:05 PM
Worth a flier for a physically gifted backup/project. You think you’re getting someone better for a 5th/6th rounder?

If the purported QB genius running the 49er cannot help Lance, who can?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 01:55:02 PM
The current 49er QB1 says "Hello!"

Yeah, I suppose you could always rely on luck. Sounds like a good plan.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 01:56:42 PM
I’d rather buy (very) low on a high 1st round “talent” than hope I hit the lottery in the 6th round.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 01:58:49 PM
If the purported QB genius running the 49er cannot help Lance, who can?

He had a serious injury derail him. He was viewed as a project even when drafted. Again, if the cost is a 5th or 6th rounder then the investment is minimal. 5th and 6th rounders don’t even make the roster more than half the time.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 02:26:13 PM
Dante Pettis to IR, unable to return this season. Congrats to Velus Jones Jr.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 25, 2023, 03:22:13 PM
Sounds like the Bears have inquired about trading for DT Chris Jones from the Chiefs. He’s holding out for a new contract, so we’ll see. Would be a great pick up, but a 1st is WAY too much and I’d hang up if I was Poles. Keep that 1st for next year in my opinion. Definitely don’t over pay. Not the right move currently for him in my opinion.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 05:11:02 PM
Yeah, don’t think I’m dealing a 1st. Would consider it if there were a 1st round swap and other considerations. Would be really nice to have a guy like that, but I’m not sure he fits the timeline. Could see a trade like this happening next year. Probably not this year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 06:44:10 PM
Trey Lance headed to Dallas for a “mid round” pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 06:45:05 PM
It’s a 4th.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 25, 2023, 08:52:33 PM
It’s a 4th.

Good move by the Cowboys. I didn’t want him here for the Bears.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 09:48:45 PM
Yeah, I suppose you could always rely on luck. Sounds like a good plan.

Like any of these bozos know anything about picking a QB. Fields sucks and Brady didn't get to play dick until Drew Bledsoe got hurt.

Give me a break Tempo.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 09:49:45 PM
I’d rather buy (very) low on a high 1st round “talent” than hope I hit the lottery in the 6th round.

History has shown NFL evaluators know shit about QBs. Luck rules.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 09:50:25 PM
Trey Lance headed to Dallas for a “mid round” pick.

Good, shitty move for a shitty franchise
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 11:35:36 PM
Good move by the Cowboys. I didn’t want him here for the Bears.

Why a good move for them and a bad one for the Bears?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 25, 2023, 11:36:18 PM
History has shown NFL evaluators know shit about QBs. Luck rules.

Lol ok
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 25, 2023, 11:51:59 PM
Lol ok

Are you serious?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:21:22 AM
Are you serious?

Evaluating quarterbacks is hard. But if a new GM steps up to the podium and he’s asked about his plan to find a quarterback and he says “I hope we luck into one” he would be laughed out of the building.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 07:00:44 AM
Evaluating quarterbacks is hard. But if a new GM steps up to the podium and he’s asked about his plan to find a quarterback and he says “I hope we luck into one” he would be laughed out of the building.

That isn't the point.  The point is that history tells us that it is all luck when evaluating that position.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 09:45:55 AM
Why a good move for them and a bad one for the Bears?

Like PMan stated they are kinda dumb. Although a 4th isn’t bad and it’s Jerry Jones, you expected something like this from him. They aren’t sure about Dak so this is their contingency plan. It creates more of a mess with that situation. I don’t like that for the Bears. Get the new guy in the draft if Fields doesn’t pan out.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 10:03:54 AM
That isn't the point.  The point is that history tells us that it is all luck when evaluating that position.

And yet every franchise bends over backwards to find one. Just because the miss rate is high, doesn’t mean it’s “luck.” Almost every qb worth a damn is a 1st or 2nd round draft choice. Occasionally you get “lucky” and find a guy in later rounds.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 10:05:40 AM
That isn't the point.  The point is that history tells us that it is all luck when evaluating that position.

If it was all “luck,” you’d be seeing pro-bowlers and HOFers drafted all over the board. Again, the overwhelming amount of high level starters are 1st and 2nd round talents.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 10:10:13 AM
Like PMan stated they are kinda dumb. Although a 4th isn’t bad and it’s Jerry Jones, you expected something like this from him. They aren’t sure about Dak so this is their contingency plan. It creates more of a mess with that situation. I don’t like that for the Bears. Get the new guy in the draft if Fields doesn’t pan out.

Why not give up a 4th rounder for a guy who not that long ago was given 3 1st rounders for, and was held back by a serious injury. He can sit behind Fields and learn in a low stress environment. If Fields gets hurt, you’ve got a similar talent type to play behind him. If Lance develops you can either play him, or trade him and easily recoup your 4th round pick. I think the Bears were an ideal landing spot for Lance. As were the Cowboys.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 11:00:47 AM
And yet every franchise bends over backwards to find one. Just because the miss rate is high, doesn’t mean it’s “luck.” Almost every qb worth a damn is a 1st or 2nd round draft choice. Occasionally you get “lucky” and find a guy in later rounds.
Of course everyone wants one. My point is they all do a terrible job scouting and it is basically luck to get one. The GOAT was a 6th round draft pick who only got on the field because Drew Bledsoe got hurt. He was the 199th pick in that draft despite all the scouting, film watching, combines, blah blah blah, and no one had an inkling. Who knows if he ever would have played had Bledsoe not gotten hurt.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 11:10:04 AM
Of course everyone wants one. My point is they all do a terrible job scouting and it is basically luck to get one. The GOAT was a 6th round draft pick who only got on the field because Drew Bledsoe got hurt. He was the 199th pick in that draft despite all the scouting, film watching, combines, blah blah blah, and no one had an inkling. Who knows if he ever would have played had Bledsoe not gotten hurt.

The point is, a lot of effort and resources still go into getting a top tier quarterback. I’d call what you’re talking about randomness more than I would “luck.” Most HOF caliber quarterbacks are high draft picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 11:12:53 AM
Yes, quite randomly the GOAT was a 6th round draft choice. But his rivals, Manning, Manning, Brees, Roethlisberger, and Mahomes were all high or very very high draft picks.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 11:16:57 AM
The point is, a lot of effort and resources still go into getting a top tier quarterback. I’d call what you’re talking about randomness more than I would “luck.” Most HOF caliber quarterbacks are high draft picks.

And just as many busts were high draft picks. They are high picks because of the importance of the position.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 11:17:02 AM
Add Favre, Rodgers, Luck, Rivers, Stafford, Goff into that mix if you like.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 11:18:22 AM
And just as many busts were high draft picks. They are high picks because of the importance of the position.

Again, “luck” isn’t a plan. What you’re referring to is variance. I’ll bet the bust rate on other positions isn’t wildly different. How many 1st round busts have the Bears had?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 11:18:35 AM
Add Favre, Rodgers, Luck, Rivers, Stafford, Goff into that mix if you like.

And Roger's got pushed down in the draft....because of all the great scouting and QB talent evaluation in the NFL. You call it randomness,  I call it luck.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 11:20:05 AM
Again, “luck” isn’t a plan. What you’re referring to is variance. I’ll bet the bust rate on other positions isn’t wildly different. How many 1st round busts have the Bears had?

Plenty. That there is a plan is meaningless if it is a terrible or just luck.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 11:22:07 AM
And Roger's got pushed down in the draft....because of all the great scouting and QB talent evaluation in the NFL. You call it randomness,  I call it luck.

If it were entirely luck, we wouldn’t see the overwhelming number of QBs be high draft choices. We’d see a lot more 5th rounders being successful. Yes, variance, randomness, and even “luck,” can be a factor.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 11:23:06 AM
Rodgers was “pushed down” all the way to the back of the first round. Still pretty high.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 11:24:15 AM
Plenty. That there is a plan is meaningless if it is a terrible or just luck.

Why bother scouting, amirite? It’s all luck.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 11:57:43 AM
Why bother scouting, amirite? It’s all luck.

The Bears would probably be better off picking QB names out of a hat
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:08:13 PM
Not good throws that first series.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 12:09:25 PM
You call it randomness,  I call it luck.

I’m not sure if PMan or Tempo is Amber Heard in this debate…

There’s no difference between “Pledge” and “Donate.” Oh, but there is Ms. Heard…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:11:42 PM
Glad I saw someone on FB post a pic from the game, almost forgot the Bear was on.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:13:16 PM
Watching the Packer on the 2d TV. The QB'ing in the opener may make eyes bleed....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:13:55 PM
I’m not sure if PMan or Tempo is Amber Heard in this debate…

There’s no difference between “Pledge” and “Donate.” Oh, but there is Ms. Heard…

Again, if it were all “luck,” we’d see a lot more mid/late hits. The miss rate is high (as it is at every position). Doesn’t mean it’s entirely “luck.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:14:28 PM
I’m not sure if PMan or Tempo is Amber Heard in this debate…

There’s no difference between “Pledge” and “Donate.” Oh, but there is Ms. Heard…

I don't get the reference.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:15:20 PM
Glad I saw someone on FB post a pic from the game, almost forgot the Bear was on.

Apparently I will have to extend the Hey Tempo threads to Bear games just for you
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:15:59 PM
Johnson got away with some contact there.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:16:35 PM
Apparently I will have to extend the Hey Tempo threads to Bear games just for you

I’ll be aware of start times for games thst count.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:17:12 PM
Well, so far, Defensive Cultural Genius Eberlose has had his first string defenses get chewed to pieces in the 2 series they have played
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:17:18 PM
I don't get the reference.

I didn’t either.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 12:18:26 PM
So where the fuck do we watch the game?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:19:35 PM
So where the fuck do we watch the game?!

Channel 32 in Chicago. Think it is on Sunday Ticket as well per my television
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:20:14 PM
So where the fuck do we watch the game?!

All you missed are shit throws from Fields and a starting D that could not get off the field again
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 12:20:39 PM
Channel 32 in Chicago. Think it is on Sunday Ticket as well per my television

Well shit I’m not in Chicago and not gonna pay for Sunday ticket

I’ve got Xfinity subscription but it won’t let me stream it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:21:03 PM
Well shit I’m not in Chicago and not gonna pay for Sunday ticket

Maybe it is on NFL Network
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:24:23 PM
Another awesome series. The line is giving him time.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:25:19 PM
Jordan Love just completed a pass to himself
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 12:25:29 PM
Fox Sports app won’t let you stream live games anymore. Fuck this shit!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 12:30:14 PM
I don't get the reference.

https://youtu.be/giLphJDxtCE?si=zz42_MhIMCSUtkLB
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:34:17 PM
All you missed are shit throws from Fields and a starting D that could not get off the field again

Haha Fields hit Herbert right in the hands and he dropped it.

Speaking of shit throws. I’d like to see PAMans comments if Fields had thrown that INT that Allen just threw.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:34:31 PM
Now we are playing Bear defense
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 12:34:53 PM
I feel pretty damn good about the Bears secondary
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:35:04 PM
Jordan Love just completed a pass to himself

HOF résumé.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:35:26 PM
I feel pretty damn good about the Bears secondary

Their CB situation looks nice.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:36:02 PM
Haha Fields hit Herbert right in the hands and he dropped it.

Speaking shit throws. I’d like to see PAMans comments if Fields has thrown that INT that Allen just threw.

Bad throw from Josh Allen. It is his MO, no?

I'd like to see Firldd throw those intermediate passes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:36:41 PM
There you go!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:37:18 PM
DJ Moore is good at football.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:37:56 PM
He makes a throw and Miller still critical of the pass
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 12:42:00 PM
I still have concerns about JFC’s throwing ability. Basically, my concerns from last year haven’t changed.

Guessing this is his last series
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:42:39 PM
I still have concerns about JFC’s throwing ability. Basically, my concerns from last year haven’t changed.

Guessing this is his last series

Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:43:13 PM
Nice call there
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:44:10 PM
I still have concerns about JFC’s throwing ability. Basically, my concerns from last year haven’t changed.

Guessing this is his last series

His practicing throws in the flat looks to have paid off!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:46:30 PM
Another awesome series. The line is giving him time.

A few plays later DLineman comes in basically untouched and drives Fields into the turf.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 12:49:40 PM
A few plays later DLineman comes in basically untouched and drives Fields into the turf.

Always with an excuse for Fields!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:57:59 PM
Always with an excuse for Fields!

From the guy who’s never given blame to anyone but Fields.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 12:58:30 PM
Always with an excuse for Fields!

It’s Fields’ fault that lineman came in untouched!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:03:12 PM
Guess I missed the entire first possession. How bad was it? All Fields’ fault I’m sure.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:08:39 PM
From the guy who’s never given blame to anyone but Fields.

I just said that he did a good job this offseason working on his passes in the flat.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:10:04 PM
Guess I missed the entire first possession. How bad was it? All Fields’ fault I’m sure.

Low throw to Kmet maybe 5-7 yards down field. Then he tried a back shoulder on 3rd and long and threw to the wrong shoulder and hit the DB in the back. Went 3 and out.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:12:54 PM
Well, glad he got some live snaps in. Hopefully he’s sharp week 1.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:13:48 PM
Well, glad he got some live snaps in. Hopefully he’s sharp week 1.

You were mocking Jobu for his take when you did not see the first series?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:15:41 PM
You were mocking Jobu for his take when you did not see the first series?

I didn’t know there was a first series. I’ll wait for a half full of real football at least before I step on to any ledges.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:16:25 PM
Tempo, The ESPN just alerted me that the Bear has given Trevis Gipson permission to seek a trade. What is up with that?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 01:16:30 PM
You were mocking Jobu for his take when you did not see the first series?

Yeah, I honestly don’t know why I got the lol response. Don’t really care either.

My concerns about him are just that. Concerns. I’m not the only one that is concerned about his ability to throw. Non controversial position.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:17:36 PM
I didn’t know there was a first series. I’ll wait for a half full of real football at least before I step on to any ledges.
Those who play it safe will always lose to those willing to risk it all
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:20:15 PM
I think we have the makings of a QB Controversy
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:21:05 PM
Tempo, The ESPN just alerted me that the Bear has given Trevis Gipson permission to seek a trade. What is up with that?

No clue. I’m watching the Tour Championship.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:21:26 PM
Those who play it safe will always lose to those willing to risk it all

It’s life advice like this that makes me coming back here for more!

This and Jasn’s work and dating advice is invaluable! All this here has changed my life for the better!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:21:39 PM
I think we have the makings of a QB Controversy

Tyson Purdy lighting it up?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 01:21:46 PM
Tyson Bagent with one more rushing TD today than JFC. Lol

Yes, I know…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:22:32 PM
Those who play it safe will always lose to those willing to risk it all

Nice quote. Awkward usage.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:24:08 PM
Ball!!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:24:09 PM
Bagent is pretty damn good. It looks like, I said above, there is a Purdy/Lance situation brewing in Chicago…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:25:08 PM
Is Gipson even a lock to make the team?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:25:30 PM
Oh brother
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:26:07 PM
Bagent is pretty damn good. It looks like, I said above, there is a Purdy/Lance situation brewing in Chicago…

We should probably save this one. Is he going to the HOF with Curbello?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:26:26 PM
Is Gipson even a lock to make the team?

Idi Amin claimed he may be a cap casualty after he caused a turnover.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 01:27:05 PM
So that Carlson guy just got himself cut right?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:27:09 PM
We should probably save this one. Is he going to the HOF with Curbello?

If he got to play with the ones the Bear is leading and that last pass is not intercepted
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:28:12 PM
Is Gipson even a lock to make the team?

Might be involved in a trade for Jones…




I can’t believe I’m talking to myself on here. Slow day Ubering and everybody else in here is mean to me. Bunch of white assholes.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:28:44 PM
So that Carlson guy just got himself cut right?

That wasn't The BagMan's fault! It is never the Bear QB's fault
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:29:27 PM
We should probably save this one. Is he going to the HOF with Curbello?

I blame you for that prediction…

Get it?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:29:52 PM
Might be involved in a trade for Jones…




I can’t believe I’m talking to myself on here. Slow day Ubering and everybody else in here is mean to me. Bunch of white assholes.

You are doing a good job trying to throw The Mult Hunters off the trail.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:30:26 PM
Fields shows electric playmaking ability through much of 2022.

“Can’t throw. All he can do is run.”

Bagent goes 4 for 10 for 18 yards and a pick. *Runs* for a touchdown.

“This kid is good. OMG quarterback controversy.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:31:48 PM
Fields shows electric playmaking ability through much of 2022.

“Can’t throw. All he can do is run.”

Bagent goes 4 for 10 for 18 yards and a pick. *Runs* for a touchdown.

“This kid is good. OMG quarterback controversy.”

Hey you’re the one that called him Tyson Purdy…

Of course we know how that situation turned out. Amirite?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:32:01 PM
Idi Amin claimed he may be a cap casualty after he caused a turnover.

What’s with all the awkwardly placed esoteric references today?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:33:08 PM
Might be involved in a trade for Jones…




I can’t believe I’m talking to myself on here. Slow day Ubering and everybody else in here is mean to me. Bunch of white assholes.

Custard would be proud of this “trying too hard” post.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 01:33:40 PM
What’s with all the awkwardly placed esoteric references today?

I can never remember that dude's first name
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:34:14 PM
If he got to play with the ones the Bear is leading and that last pass is not intercepted

Lolololololololol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:36:27 PM
I blame you for that prediction…

Get it?!

I do. Quality post.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:37:15 PM
Oh brother

How bad was the pick?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:37:55 PM
Idi Amin claimed he may be a cap casualty after he caused a turnover.

Adam is a tricky one.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:39:59 PM
I’ve figured out why I, Tempo don’t like Jobu…

He’s a white guy (has to be from a place like Washington, I mean look at the demographics) on a sports website, portraying himself as a black person (off the movie Major League). I mean isn’t that racist?! It’s basically cyber/internet blackface. Now I know why I’m always angry at him.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:40:28 PM
I can never remember that dude's first name

Guess I should have quoted this one. *Adam*
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:41:16 PM
I’ve figured out why I, Tempo don’t like Jobu…

He’s a white guy (has to be from a place like Washington, I mean look at the demographics) on a sports website, portraying himself as a black person (off the movie Major League). I mean isn’t that racist?! It’s basically cyber/internet blackface. Now I know why I’m always angry at him.

You/we nailed it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 01:43:03 PM
Maybe I should change my username to Roger Dorn.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:44:38 PM
Maybe I should change my username to Roger Dorn.

Ricky Vaughn, duh.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:44:54 PM
Maybe I should change my username to Roger Dorn.

🤔 that won’t work either. Reeks of white privilege. I’ll hate you for that too. I lived with that my entire life. Hence why I became a woman on here…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 01:45:29 PM
Ricky Vaughn, duh.

No. Ricky Vaughn is way too edgy. Dorn is Washington white.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:47:01 PM
Granted, it should’ve been a black woman like Michelle Obama, but none the less, I’m trying.

Wait, is Michelle actually a woman?! I’ve heard rumblings she is actually a man (Barack’s best friend in college)…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 01:47:32 PM
Woah, Jim Miller is a lardass now. Horry shit
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:47:40 PM
No. Ricky Vaughn is way too edgy. Dorn is Washington white.

But then I/we still hate you.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:48:34 PM
Granted, it should’ve been a black woman like Michelle Obama, but none the less, I’m trying.

Wait, is Michelle actually a woman?! I’ve heard rumblings she is actually a man (Barack’s best friend in college)…

Lemme guess you/we believed it (or at least gave it credence).
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 01:48:57 PM
But then I/we still hate you.

Ah. Right
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 01:49:19 PM
Bagent is wearing a skull cap lol. That’s magnificent
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:49:58 PM
Lemme guess you/we believed it (or at least gave it credence).

Dude you’ve seen the photos too! The resemblance is actually pretty eerie…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:50:28 PM
*will
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:50:46 PM
Dude you’ve seen the photos too! The resemblance is actually pretty eerie…

Fer sure!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 01:58:01 PM
I like you Jobu. Even if Wayne/Tempo doesn’t. I’m a woman and can make decision for my own personality. He doesn’t get to decide what who and what I do and don’t like. My personality, my choice.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 01:59:33 PM
I like you Jobu. Even if Wayne/Tempo doesn’t. I’m a woman and can make decision for my own personality. He doesn’t get to decide what who and what I do and don’t like. My personality, my choice.

You couldn’t possibly know anything whore. Shut up and put my dick in your mouth.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 26, 2023, 02:01:53 PM
I like you Jobu. Even if Wayne/Tempo doesn’t. I’m a woman and can make decision for my own personality. He doesn’t get to decide what who and what I do and don’t like. My personality, my choice.

I like you too Judy. Let’s fuck.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 02:07:11 PM
I like you too Judy. Let’s fuck.

That’s ghey.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 02:15:59 PM
It’s possible I’m not the first to make this comparison, but Josh Allen could be Chris Pratt’s little brother.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 02:27:13 PM
I like you too Judy. Let’s fuck.

What if I don’t actually have a vagina, but just identify as a woman?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 02:28:33 PM
You couldn’t possibly know anything whore. Shut up and put my dick in your mouth.

Quit bragging that you can suck your own dick.

Jobu. You sure this is something you wanna get involved with?!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 02:29:12 PM
What if I don’t actually have a vagina, but just identify as a woman?!

You probably would still tackle better than the Bear players on that TD run....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 02:31:00 PM
You probably would still tackle better than the Bear players on that TD run....

It’s not about them. It’s all about JFC if you want me!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 02:44:12 PM
What if I don’t actually have a vagina, but just identify as a woman?!

There’s ways around that.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 02:44:40 PM
Quit bragging that you can suck your own dick.

Jobu. You sure this is something you wanna get involved with?!

Ok, that one was funny.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 03:13:08 PM
Think PJ Walker did enough today to win the starting job?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 03:13:48 PM
Think PJ Walker did enough today to win the starting job?

No
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 03:20:01 PM
No

No QB controversy?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 03:20:46 PM
No QB controversy?

Not involving PJ Walker. If Simien was back and healthy, maybe....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 04:01:26 PM
Not involving PJ Walker. If Simien was back and healthy, maybe....

Was really playing great till the shot wore off.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 04:17:12 PM
Not involving PJ Walker. If Simien was back and healthy, maybe....

What about Tyson Purdy? Did he do enough to win the job?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 04:18:50 PM
Was really playing great till the shot wore off.

Yeah, he had a great first quarter
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 04:19:36 PM
What about Tyson Purdy? Did he do enough to win the job?

Not according to The Twitter.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 04:41:27 PM
Yeah, he had a great first quarter

Still impressed with how he managed to set Pringle up to intercept that TD pass to the Jets DB.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 05:06:34 PM
I see Siemian is with the Bengals now. Wonder if Joe Burrow is feeling the heat. We know what Siemian can do.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 26, 2023, 05:15:32 PM
I see Siemian is with the Bengals now. Wonder if Joe Burrow is feeling the heat. We know what Siemian can do.

Burrow has proven he can throw and play QB at this level. Your comment is not the flex you think it is.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 05:27:14 PM
Burrow has proven he can throw and play QB at this level. Your comment is not the flex you think it is.

He was playing great until the shot wore off.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 05:28:44 PM
Burrow has proven he can throw and play QB at this level. Your comment is not the flex you think it is.

Yeah, I’m aware of that. And that wasn’t really what I was getting at. But thanks for playing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 05:31:41 PM
https://www.nbcsportschicago.com/nfl/chicago-bears/bears-analysis/how-justin-fields-performed-in-bears-preseason-finale-vs-bills/503446/
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 05:37:28 PM
Looking forward to regular season play. Anyone expecting Fields to come out and throw for 350/4 week one may come out disappointed. I expect the offense to continue to be a work in progress. Especially with injuries. But I do think they’ll be explosive plays and that’s something we’ve rarely said about a Bears offense.

I hope Fields comes out and looks like league MVP week one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t (yes, I know what I did there).

I do think the offense will look better once Fields is able to improvise (yes, likely run) more. It’ll loosen things up. I’m guessing Fields running wasn’t a big part of camp and preseason.

Hopefully Fields takes a jump and gets into the MVP conversation. I’m still fairly optimistic. Not going to make too much out of a couple series behind a patchwork line in a preseason that saw him play probably 20 plays.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 26, 2023, 05:40:40 PM
I do feel like he should have played more. Not sure why they sat him game 2. Would have been nice to see a couple more series today. I’m guessing there’s some rust since no one’s played (starters). But that is the modern NFL. I remember watching week 3 last year and across the league it still looked like preseason.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 10:13:27 PM
Looking forward to regular season play. Anyone expecting Fields to come out and throw for 350/4 week one may come out disappointed. I expect the offense to continue to be a work in progress. Especially with injuries. But I do think they’ll be explosive plays and that’s something we’ve rarely said about a Bears offense.

I hope Fields comes out and looks like league MVP week one, but I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t (yes, I know what I did there).

I do think the offense will look better once Fields is able to improvise (yes, likely run) more. It’ll loosen things up. I’m guessing Fields running wasn’t a big part of camp and preseason.

Hopefully Fields takes a jump and gets into the MVP conversation. I’m still fairly optimistic. Not going to make too much out of a couple series behind a patchwork line in a preseason that saw him play probably 20 plays.

Fields is already being bet up as MVP, right?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 26, 2023, 10:20:28 PM
The defense has not looked good. That is concerning, but hopefully it is because the D has been vanilla.

I am guessing this is going to look like the end of last year. Fields makes plays with his legs and throws bombs, but is uneven in the pocket. While Fields and the O puts up points on big plays, the D has problems getting off the field. If Fields gets hurt for an extended amount of time, watch out below.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 27, 2023, 07:36:54 AM
The defense has not looked good. That is concerning, but hopefully it is because the D has been vanilla.

I am guessing this is going to look like the end of last year. Fields makes plays with his legs and throws bombs, but is uneven in the pocket. While Fields and the O puts up points on big plays, the D has problems getting off the field. If Fields gets hurt for an extended amount of time, watch out below.
                                   The Bill    The Bear
3RD DOWN CONV   9-18           4-13
4TH DOWN CONV   2-2              1-2

Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 09:54:25 AM
Fields is already being bet up as MVP, right?

I don’t know what this “means.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 09:55:32 AM
Fields is already being bet up as MVP, right?

My bad. First read it as “set up.” To answer the question, IDK
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 09:57:12 AM
                                   The Bill    The Bear
3RD DOWN CONV   9-18           4-13
4TH DOWN CONV   2-2              1-2

Look who knows how to copy and paste.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 10:05:01 AM
The defense has not looked good. That is concerning, but hopefully it is because the D has been vanilla.

I am guessing this is going to look like the end of last year. Fields makes plays with his legs and throws bombs, but is uneven in the pocket. While Fields and the O puts up points on big plays, the D has problems getting off the field. If Fields gets hurt for an extended amount of time, watch out below.

I’ve never really concerned myself with what happens in the preseason. If they look good, great. If they don’t look good, it doesn’t count anyway. Let’s just use Fields for example: he played what? 20-25 snaps in preseason? And half of that behind a patchwork line. I’m going to guess the offense is somewhere between going 60+ yards every other play and back to back 3 and outs.

I think the offense will be pretty productive (provided they can stay/get healthy). I expect things will not necessarily be smooth from game one on. I’m just glad Fields and the offense got some live reps in. I’ve always felt live reps were important for maturing players heading into the regular season.

WTF is up with Nate Davis? That guy has barely done shit since the day he signed.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 10:11:52 AM
Damn, just realized we’re still two weeks from starting the regular season. Ugh.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 27, 2023, 11:37:10 AM
Damn, just realized we’re still two weeks from starting the regular season. Ugh.

 Uh, yeah. Ergo my concerns about his lack of teps....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 11:40:17 AM
Uh, yeah. Ergo my concerns about his lack of teps....

Yeah, but you seem hung up on “learning and tape.” I just want him to get accustomed to live speed reps. To me that’s what preseason is for.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 27, 2023, 11:43:24 AM
Yeah, but you seem hung up on “learning and tape.” I just want him to get accustomed to live speed reps. To me that’s what preseason is for.

It is all the same bundle of sticks....
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 12:23:10 PM
It is all the same bundle of sticks....

Sort of. But at this point in the preseason, I am almost exclusively concerned with the offenses’ timing and rhythm. Much less concerned about “what Justin learned” from the Buffalo game.

Just as I wouldn’t want a promising young prospect to go into the regular MLB season having only faced batting practice pitching. To me, the last couple of weeks were about getting used to game speed again.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 01:37:11 PM
https://x.com/imbearingdown/status/1695593281315328090?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 01:40:21 PM
Bad news on Noah Sewell.

https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/chicago_bears_linebacker_carted_off_with_injury_in_final_preseason_game/s1_17081_39177862
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 01:51:05 PM
Excuse maker for Justin Fields!

https://x.com/deeksviewog/status/1695586844073685045?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 01:53:47 PM
*Bears meatball voice activated*

“What? Where is win da Super Bowl?”

(https://i.postimg.cc/VsFcYTsz/ECBBD883-935-E-476-A-93-AE-0-C606518372-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hhhYs27Y)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 01:57:31 PM
Love me a good Twitter (X?) take.

(https://i.postimg.cc/j5gQctQs/20-FD5665-753-E-45-D0-83-FB-E9262-E41519-D.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 27, 2023, 02:21:53 PM
Excuse maker for Justin Fields!

https://x.com/deeksviewog/status/1695586844073685045?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ

Nah, thought it was a busted play at the time.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 27, 2023, 02:22:39 PM
*Bears meatball voice activated*

“What? Where is win da Super Bowl?”

(https://i.postimg.cc/VsFcYTsz/ECBBD883-935-E-476-A-93-AE-0-C606518372-E.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hhhYs27Y)

Seems like a good question to me.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 03:03:23 PM
Lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 03:09:00 PM
I’m pretty ok with the quarterback not talking Super Bowl after they went 3-13 last year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 27, 2023, 03:28:34 PM
I’m pretty ok with the quarterback not talking Super Bowl after they went 3-13 last year.
If you're referring to the vegan, they went 3-12 if he/him/they is using pronouns.

If you're referring to the Bear, they (as in plural) went 3-14.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 03:33:54 PM
If you're referring to the vegan, they went 3-12 if he/him/they is using pronouns.

If you're referring to the Bear, they (as in plural) went 3-14.

Yeah, my bad I meant 3-14. You really busted me there. Good job.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 27, 2023, 03:38:49 PM
Yeah, my bad I meant 3-14. You really busted me there. Good job.
Glad I could help.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 27, 2023, 03:43:42 PM
Glad you are fact checking those posts of Tempo's that you do read, Mn.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 07:36:59 PM
Oh snap, just read that the Bears are releasing PJ Walker. And I thought he was a reasonable signing as a backup. I didn’t watch any of his play, he must have been terrible.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 07:38:35 PM
Alex Leatherwood gone, too. Was hoping they could tap into whatever made him a 1st round pick.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Miles Leonard on August 27, 2023, 09:17:18 PM
Really thought Peterman was the odd man out.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 27, 2023, 10:58:23 PM
I found this interesting.

https://x.com/robertkschmitz/status/1695952727489061121?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 10:11:35 AM
PAMan’s guy Bernstein just made a good point. Making Bagent the backup is a big risk. Is a small school rookie quarterback ready to go in and win 2-3 games if needed? Backup quarterback is not a developmental position. Thoughts?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 28, 2023, 10:14:07 AM
PAMan’s guy Bernstein just made a good point. Making Bagent the backup is a big risk. Is a small school rookie quarterback ready to go in and win 2-3 games if needed? Backup quarterback is not a developmental position. Thoughts?
It's possible.
The experienced big school qb managed to win 3.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 10:23:51 AM
It's possible.
The experienced big school qb managed to win 3.

What’s it like being a low-level troll?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 10:25:41 AM
No matter how many times you tell certain people the Bears (as an organization) didn’t make a serious attempt at winning last year, it’ll never sink in.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 10:33:43 AM
Mn is on fire today
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 10:34:10 AM
Mn is on fire today

Not surprising you’d think that.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 28, 2023, 10:37:17 AM
Only Bear to make ESPN’s top-100 players in the NFL is DJ Moore at #99. Thoughts…

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/38251650/nfl-rank-2023-ranking-top-100-players-predictions-stats-quotes
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 10:44:11 AM
Meh, let’s see the list at the end of the year.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 11:13:34 AM
Young first-time GM with LONG-TERM vision takes over failing franchise with old, overpaid players and roster bereft of talent. Trades away most of the players that have any value in order to get younger, cheaper. Plugs holes and fills out roster with one-year “tryout” type contracts.

Rookie head coach. Rookie offensive coordinator. 2nd year quarterback learning a new system, trying to recover from the incompetence of previous regime. Bottom 5 offensive line (that could be generous). Mostly practice squad or just above caliber receivers. Worst front 7 in football. No depth on the team at virtually any position.

Mn: “Yeah, but why didn’t they win?”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 28, 2023, 11:15:19 AM
No matter how many times you tell certain people the Bears (as an organization) didn’t make a serious attempt at winning last year, it’ll never sink in.
Why did you criticize the players for dropping passes, punts, or whatever if they were supposed to go out and not make a serious attempt to win ?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 11:24:23 AM
Why did you criticize the players for dropping passes, punts, or whatever if they were supposed to go out and not make a serious attempt to win ?

Dipshit STILL doesn’t get it…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 11:28:02 AM
I can only assume this level of ignorance is willful.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 28, 2023, 11:29:13 AM
No luck trolling today, so I went with a jig.

(https://i.ibb.co/0hnnv7K/20230828-112331.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4PFF3q2)
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 11:30:43 AM
No luck trolling today, so I went with a jig.

(https://i.ibb.co/0hnnv7K/20230828-112331.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4PFF3q2)

Nice catch.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 28, 2023, 11:37:02 AM
Nice catch.
Thanks.
Trolling or jigging ? Lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:00:23 PM
Dipshit STILL doesn’t get it…

I get it.

Last year. Drop = Eh. He should have caught it but we're not trying to win anyway.
Catch = Wow! That's my quarterback!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:09:25 PM
No matter how many times you tell certain people the Bears (as an organization) didn’t make a serious attempt at winning last year, it’ll never sink in.

Are they trying to win this year, or are they tanking again? It's a fair question.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:14:57 PM
Looks like Jobu needs help figuring out some of the simple things.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:15:23 PM
Looks like Jobu needs help figuring out some of the simple things.

Help me out then.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:16:20 PM
Sorry, my job doesn't involve me driving around listening to the Score and parroting their talking points. Tell me what they're talking about.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:20:18 PM
Are they “trying to win” this year? I’d say yes. Are they “ready to win?” They probably aren’t quite there yet. There’s a convincing case for 7 wins (not really winning) and a convincing case for 10 wins, which would be a very impressive total considering where they were 7 months ago.

It’s about realistic expectations, and managing them. PAMan’s Super Bowl “expectations” are probably unrealistic.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:22:35 PM
Are they “trying to win” this year? I’d say yes. Are they “ready to win?” They probably aren’t quite there yet. There’s a convincing case for 7 wins (not really winning) and a convincing case for 10 wins, which would be a very impressive total considering where they were 7 months ago.

It’s about realistic expectations, and managing them. PAMan’s Super Bowl “expectations” are probably unrealistic.

That's fair. See, we can have a conversation without you being an asshole.

When they were 3-1 last year, we all thought they were trying to win. Until they weren't. We'll see.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:22:53 PM
Sorry, my job doesn't involve me driving around listening to the Score and parroting their talking points. Tell me what they're talking about.

Ok asshole. FTR, I’ve barely listened to the Score since last football season.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:24:28 PM
That's fair. See, we can have a conversation without you being an asshole.

When they were 3-1 last year, we all thought they were trying to win. Until they weren't. We'll see.

Were the players and coaches “trying to win?” Of course…were they designed or equipped to win. And did Poles place the emphasis on wining?Definitively no.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:25:41 PM
And I love that you still cling to the myth that I parrot the Score. As if they all have the same opinions. Kind of hard to parrot all of them.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:25:49 PM
Ok asshole. FTR, I’ve barely listened to the Score since last football season.

Lol, ok. I don't really care. You actually referenced Bernstein earilier in this thread. Therefore, I can deduce that you are parroting Score talking points wrt the Bears, especially since you haven't watch much preseason.

It's fine, man. Get your takes from wherever you want. Because we all know that none of them are original.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:27:13 PM
Were the players and coaches “trying to win?” Of course…were they designed or equipped to win. And did Poles place the emphasis on wining?Definitively no.

That's fair. But you didn't bring this up until they started losing.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:27:28 PM
I could show you countless texts to the listener line as proof that I don’t parrot the Score. Or Danny Parkins. Or Dan Bernstein, or Lawrence Holmes or “take your pick…”

Do I agree with most of them more often than not? Probably.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:27:56 PM
And I love that you still cling to the myth that I parrot the Score. As if they all have the same opinions. Kind of hard to parrot all of them.

You parrot the ones you agree with. lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:28:11 PM
I busted Parkins’ balls on the textline for two years over his Matt Nagy love.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:28:55 PM
I could show you countless texts to the listener line

This is proof that you actually have no life. You actually text to the Score listener line. Jesus Christ.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:29:32 PM
I busted Parkins’ balls on the textline for two years over his Matt Nagy love.

Jesus. That's really sad.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:29:48 PM
You parrot the ones you agree with. lol

Well since the topic is pretty limited (Bears in this case), and it matches my thoughts, it would be hard not to? Am I supposed to come up with a different opinion on Justin Fields just because Danny Parkins likes him?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:30:27 PM
Jesus. That's really sad.

So is pretending you died on the Internet.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:30:45 PM
It's obvious that Tempo gets no pussy. Because he texts the Score listener line. I honestly thought that was something made up my the Score guys when they needed something additional to talk about. People actually do that.

Wow.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:31:33 PM
So is pretending you died on the Internet.

Haha, no. Not really. Especially since it's something you're still bringing up.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:32:48 PM
Lol, ok. I don't really care. You actually referenced Bernstein earilier in this thread. Therefore, I can deduce that you are parroting Score talking points wrt the Bears, especially since you haven't watch much preseason.

It's fine, man. Get your takes from wherever you want. Because we all know that none of them are original.

Yes. I gave proper citation to the original source of the opinion. Would you rather I “parrot it” and call it my own? Plus, I love typing “PAMan’s guy Dan Bernstein.”
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:33:41 PM
I need to get back to work, Tempo. I'm kinda up against an important deadline. Kinda like when you need to get Floyd to the barbershop by 1:30 or else he's gonna give you a 3 star and no tip.

Have a good afternoon. Let us all know what Parkins has to say. I'm sure we're waiting with bated breath.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:34:56 PM
First time I’ve caught the opening to their show in many months. Seems I usually tune in for a few minutes before they do “high noon” which is just them talking about weird random stories. As far as actual sports, 95% of what I’ve heard recently is baseball talk, which I usually turn off unless I want to hate listen about the Sox.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:35:52 PM
I need to get back to work, Tempo. I'm kinda up against an important deadline. Kinda like when you need to get Floyd to the barbershop by 1:30 or else he's gonna give you a 3 star and no tip.

Have a good afternoon. Let us all know what Parkins has to say. I'm sure we're waiting with bated breath.

I’m really glad you can do this “without being an asshole.” Kudos to you.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:36:44 PM
First time I’ve caught the opening to their show in many months. Seems I usually tune in for a few minutes before they do “high noon” which is just them talking about weird random stories. As far as actual sports, 95% of what I’ve heard recently is baseball talk, which I usually turn off unless I want to hate listen about the Sox.

As Jay Cutler used to say, right before taking a drag off of a heater:

I don't CARE!!!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:36:59 PM
Haha, no. Not really. Especially since it's something you're still bringing up.

Only because it was the most epically sad cry for attention I’ve ever seen here.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:37:40 PM
As Jay Cutler used to say, right before taking a drag off of a heater:

I don't CARE!!!

But you’ll continue to perpetuate it anyway! Because…you’re a douche?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:38:12 PM
I’m really glad you can do this “without being an asshole.” Kudos to you.

Not being an asshole. That's your life, man. Embrace it.

I thought you said you were going to quit Ubering. You just can't resist it, because you're lazy.

Where the fuck are you getting your survival money? There has to be a trust fund. Right?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:39:33 PM
Only because it was the most epically sad cry for attention I’ve ever seen here.

And it worked. lol

Blame yourself for being a dumbass. Don't blame me. You and Spark need to get over some shit lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:40:34 PM
But you’ll continue to perpetuate it anyway! Because…you’re a douche?

I was trying to say that I don't care about your sad, boring life.

Didn't want to be direct, but I guess that's where we are.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 01:40:46 PM
And I should add it’s something only a demented person would do. That’s why it, unlike Jobu, never dies.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:41:30 PM
Text the Score listener line about it. lol

Tell Danny all about how Jobu is mean to you.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 28, 2023, 01:42:33 PM
And I should add it’s something only a demented person would do. That’s why it, unlike Jobu, never dies.

It would die if you would quit bringing it up. It's not like I come on here every day and say, hey guys! Tempo and Spark bought the bit!

You bring it up. Not me.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 02:00:29 PM
Are they “trying to win” this year? I’d say yes. Are they “ready to win?” They probably aren’t quite there yet. There’s a convincing case for 7 wins (not really winning) and a convincing case for 10 wins, which would be a very impressive total considering where they were 7 months ago.

It’s about realistic expectations, and managing them. PAMan’s Super Bowl “expectations” are probably unrealistic.

I'm glad we are not waiting to determine if they are tanking this year until after we see that the QB can't run an NFL style offense.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 02:01:52 PM
I get it.

Last year. Drop = Eh. He should have caught it but we're not trying to win anyway.
Catch = Wow! That's my quarterback!!!

It appears to me that Mn and Jobu "get it."
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 02:14:19 PM
PAMan’s guy Bernstein just made a good point. Making Bagent the backup is a big risk. Is a small school rookie quarterback ready to go in and win 2-3 games if needed? Backup quarterback is not a developmental position. Thoughts?

It does not matter who the backup is in this instance unless it is someone who can mentor Fields on reading the field. PJ Walker was not it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 02:14:52 PM
It's possible.
The experienced big school qb managed to win 3.

Great point.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 28, 2023, 03:54:44 PM
Fuck you guys, leave him alone! 😂 seriously though, I like Tempo even though I give myself a hard time.

I honestly wanna know Tempo, how do you survive on just an Uber income. I’m curious.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 04:51:08 PM
It would die if you would quit bringing it up. It's not like I come on here every day and say, hey guys! Tempo and Spark bought the bit!

You bring it up. Not me.

Old shit I said never gets brought up…
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 04:52:17 PM
Fuck you guys, leave him alone! 😂 seriously though, I like Tempo even though I give myself a hard time.

I honestly wanna know Tempo, how do you survive on just an Uber income. I’m curious.

Until recently it wasn’t hard. Uber has gone to shit.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on August 28, 2023, 10:37:01 PM
I hired an Uber to drive me all over the central coast of California a couple of weeks ago. They allow up to 5 stops per trip so I set up my itinerary and booked a round trip encompassing the entirety of Big Sur, leaving from Carmel. It probably wasn’t more than 70-80 miles total but it was winding along a busy PCH on a Friday afternoon for over 4 hours with multiple stops lasting from 15-45 mins each. I paid $164, didn’t have to rent a car or drive myself, and had a great conversation (not about the Bears) to boot. That guy didn’t make shit outside of the $50 tip of company money I left him. One of the best $214 I ever spent.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 28, 2023, 10:39:19 PM
I hired an Uber to drive me all over the central coast of California a couple of weeks ago. They allow up to 5 stops per trip so I set up my itinerary and booked a round trip encompassing the entirety of Big Sur, leaving from Carmel. It probably wasn’t more than 70-80 miles total but it was winding along a busy PCH on a Friday afternoon for over 4 hours with multiple stops lasting from 15-45 mins each. I paid $164, didn’t have to rent a car or drive myself, and had a great conversation (not about the Bears) to boot. That guy didn’t make shit outside of the $50 tip of company money I left him. One of the best $214 I ever spent.

Hit any bicyclists?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 28, 2023, 10:48:17 PM
I hired an Uber to drive me all over the central coast of California a couple of weeks ago. They allow up to 5 stops per trip so I set up my itinerary and booked a round trip encompassing the entirety of Big Sur, leaving from Carmel. It probably wasn’t more than 70-80 miles total but it was winding along a busy PCH on a Friday afternoon for over 4 hours with multiple stops lasting from 15-45 mins each. I paid $164, didn’t have to rent a car or drive myself, and had a great conversation (not about the Bears) to boot. That guy didn’t make shit outside of the $50 tip of company money I left him. One of the best $214 I ever spent.

$50 for 4 hours of work in your own vehicle. And using your own car and gas. Damn that’s gotta be rough 🥴
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 28, 2023, 11:00:06 PM
I used to make $40 an hour and pick my own hours. Uber and Lyft have gotten greedy and are crushing the drivers now. Definitely time for a new job.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on August 28, 2023, 11:50:34 PM
I’m sure the market is way over saturated at this point because everybody saw people making money hand over fist cruising around the city listening to the Score…rubbing elbows with Executive NFL chefs, dead mobsters, Jeff Frank & Sidra, etc. Engaging directly with Danny Parkins via the 67011 text line.

They saw an ordinary man like themselves having the supreme luxury of downtime in the middle of the day to educate an internet user named spark mandrill about Reggie Theus, The Mack Trade or anything relating to proper expectations for Illini basketball coaches.

They want their piece of the pie, man.
You’re just a victim of your own success, Tempo.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 01:58:52 AM
I’m sure the market is way over saturated at this point because everybody saw people making money hand over fist cruising around the city listening to the Score…rubbing elbows with Executive NFL chefs, dead mobsters, Jeff Frank & Sidra, etc. Engaging directly with Danny Parkins via the 67011 text line.

They saw an ordinary man like themselves having the supreme luxury of downtime in the middle of the day to educate an internet user named spark mandrill about Reggie Theus, The Mack Trade or anything relating to proper expectations for Illini basketball coaches.

They want their piece of the pie, man.
You’re just a victim of your own success, Tempo.

I am seriously in your head. Without even really trying to be.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 02:04:45 AM
That post is just petty and bizarre.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 02:09:50 AM
You forgot to add posting creepily intimate photos of my sexual conquests for my pretend Internet, friends to ogle. Oh wait, that wasn’t me.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 03:02:22 AM
I drive Uber because (until recently) it paid pretty decently if not “great.”i have no boss. I take the day off or vacations at the drop of a hat if i want. It’s provided me incredible flexibility with my schedule, which as the primary caretaking parent for my son has been nearly invaluable. It’s not a glamorous job, but it’s mostly met my very specific needs. If that fails to win the approval of Custard and Jobu, oh well; because who cares what those two judgmental pricks think.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 07:21:16 AM
While it may be the less serious Bear thread, that does not mean this isn't the better Bear thread.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 29, 2023, 07:50:24 AM
I used to make $40 an hour and pick my own hours. Uber and Lyft have gotten greedy and are crushing the drivers now. Definitely time for a new job.

You said this months ago lol
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Jobu on August 29, 2023, 07:50:45 AM
I’m sure the market is way over saturated at this point because everybody saw people making money hand over fist cruising around the city listening to the Score…rubbing elbows with Executive NFL chefs, dead mobsters, Jeff Frank & Sidra, etc. Engaging directly with Danny Parkins via the 67011 text line.

They saw an ordinary man like themselves having the supreme luxury of downtime in the middle of the day to educate an internet user named spark mandrill about Reggie Theus, The Mack Trade or anything relating to proper expectations for Illini basketball coaches.

They want their piece of the pie, man.
You’re just a victim of your own success, Tempo.

Post of the decade
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Chickengeorge on August 29, 2023, 08:11:32 AM
Post of the decade

Hear, hear!
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 08:30:28 AM
Post of the decade

Shocking that the most immature person on the board loves it.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 08:30:59 AM
Hear, hear!

And the guy with the racist username.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 08:45:25 AM
Cardinals go into full tank for Caleb Williams mode and cut Colt McCoy.

Totally different kind of quarterback, but I’d be ok with the Bears signing him. I’d prefer some veteran experience in the quarterback room. I want someone mentoring Fields and Bagent, not Fields mentoring Bagent. Fields has enough on his plate.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Custard on August 29, 2023, 08:48:00 AM
Fields has enough on his plate.

Black bean burgers and tofu
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 08:49:26 AM
Black bean burgers and tofu

Very possible.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Judge Judy on August 29, 2023, 08:52:14 AM
I drive Uber because (until recently) it paid pretty decently if not “great.”i have no boss. I take the day off or vacations at the drop of a hat if i want. It’s provided me incredible flexibility with my schedule, which as the primary caretaking parent for my son has been nearly invaluable. It’s not a glamorous job, but it’s mostly met my very specific needs. If that fails to win the approval of Custard and Jobu, oh well; because who cares what those two judgmental pricks think.

I’m sincere when I say that’s noble of you. I’ve sacrificed a lot for my child as well. Can I ask why you are the primary parent? No ill intentions asking, just curious.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 09:02:42 AM
I’m sincere when I say that’s noble of you. I’ve sacrificed a lot for my child as well. Can I ask why you are the primary parent? No ill intentions asking, just curious.

Basically, it’s because his mother works a lot. I’ll give her credit for one thing, she’s got a strong work ethic. Probably too much so (and she’s too stubborn to change). I’ve had to sacrifice a lot of what I’d like to do to cater to her schedule, but I get to spend a lot of time with my kid is the reward. My whole life the last 6+ years has been work, take care of the kid. Not much else with a few exceptions here and there. Thank you for being complimentary.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 09:04:45 AM
Let’s put it this way. I’ve made him 95%+ of his meals, and given him 97% of his baths (and put him to bed) the last 5 years. He’s old enough to do showers now, so I’m not required to do as much lol.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 29, 2023, 09:55:47 AM
And the guy with the racist username.

Ben Vereen was/is racist?
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 29, 2023, 03:57:33 PM
Bears waive Trevis Gipson and Kindle Vildor. I guess Gipson is free to continue seeking a trade…Trestin Ebner also gone.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ridingthegrange on August 29, 2023, 04:12:11 PM
It appears that Palczewski has made the Broncos 53.  Hard to tell for sure until all the dust clears but looking pretty solid right now.............
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: Reacher on August 30, 2023, 07:18:32 PM
Nate Davis, AKA Mr. Snuffleupagus was seen at practice today.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on August 31, 2023, 02:12:32 PM
Maybe Eberlose will have him add to the culture he is creating with the Bear....

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2023/aug/31/bill-belichick-new-england-patriots-head-coach-nfl-football

Is Bill Belichick’s glorious Patriots reign approaching an ugly conclusion?

The New England coach is the greatest football mind of the 21st-century. But his fortunes have been on the decline since Tom Brady left Foxborough
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on September 07, 2023, 01:50:21 PM
https://www.si.com/fannation/sneakers/interviews/justin-fields-signs-sneaker-deal-with-reebok

Justin Fields Signs Sneaker Deal With Reebok

Figures he is endorsing running shoes and not football cleats.
Title: Re: 2023 Chicago Bears thread (new)
Post by: ThePAMan on November 20, 2023, 04:44:47 PM
Quote from: Tempo34 on May 26, 2023, 01:49:33 PM
But I’m pretty sure you pointed at Oklahoma and Riley as a successful quarterback Factory.

Uh, I do not think so. I am not a "but it wouldn't surprise me..." guy. That's your shtick.