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General Category => The Deuce => Topic started by: Reacher on February 13, 2023, 08:58:53 PM
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If anyone wants to talk golf.
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I just got new irons
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I just got new irons
Nice. What kind?
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I’m a Mizuno irons guy myself.
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I got Titleist T100S 4-A with KBS $ Taper 125 shafts. I’d been looking for a while and saw this set come up for sale on GolfWRX and pulled the trigger.
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Had been playing Miuras and before that, Mizunos. Have had several sets of Mizunos over the years, probably more than any other brand.
I rotate clubs a lot, aka a “club ho” but I rarely ever buy anything new. I know my specs, so I’ll get a nice used set off GolfWRX that suits me, play them for a while, then try something else. Doesn’t cost a lot to flip that way. Mostly just shipping.
Currently putter shopping to round out the bag for 2023.
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I love the Odyssey White Hots.
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I rolled some the other day at the golf shop I like to go to. The new Tri Hot 5K or whatever they’re called are pretty sweet. Would like to find something used but in excellent shape.
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This is the kind I have. I’ve always preferred blades in irons and putters. Probably my favorite putter I’ve ever had. Had a really nice Scotty Cameron once and it got rusted out. I putted meh with it.
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Any hot takes on the Genesis this weekend? Tiger teeing it up for the first time in a non-major in like 800+ days. I think he’ll do really well just to make the cut.
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My picks this week: Rory and JT. Rahm playing his B- game and still getting high finishes.
Longshots: Adrian Meronk and Wyndham Clark.
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This is the kind I have. I’ve always preferred blades in irons and putters. Probably my favorite putter I’ve ever had. Had a really nice Scotty Cameron once and it got rusted out. I putted meh with it.
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I love the 8802 style but can’t put with them. I don’t have near enough arc in my stroke. I got one of these from a buddy in the Philippines who deals Epon (Japan Forged) when they first came out. Couldn’t putt with it to save my life so I sold it to a collector. Should have kept it as there were only 300 ever made and now people want double to triple the original price for them.
https://www.golfstix.com/product/Clubs/Putters/Epon/rare-epon-zen-limited-blade-putter-mint/22048
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I’m usually more of a mid mallet guy but I do pretty well with a Scottsdale type Anser head.
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My picks this week: Rory and JT. Rahm playing his B- game and still getting high finishes.
Longshots: Adrian Meronk and Wyndham Clark.
I don’t really follow the tour that closely, I like to tune in for the final round sometimes when it’s spring and I’ve got the itch to play. But that’s about it. I really love the equipment side of things and getting out and spending time with friends and family doing something we all enjoy.
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I love the 8802 style but can’t put with them. I don’t have near enough arc in my stroke. I got one of these from a buddy in the Philippines who deals Epon (Japan Forged) when they first came out. Couldn’t putt with it to save my life so I sold it to a collector. Should have kept it as there were only 300 ever made and now people want double to triple the original price for them.
https://www.golfstix.com/product/Clubs/Putters/Epon/rare-epon-zen-limited-blade-putter-mint/22048
Love the 8802. Still have one.
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Great field at Bay Hill (elevated event). Winds are supposed to produce a bloodbath this afternoon.
Not a fan of the PGA getting rid of the cut.
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Just for designated events right
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Just for designated events right
Not sure tbh, but that would sound likely.
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Just for designated events right
Would that be "events Tiger is in"?
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Great leaderboard today at the Arnold Palmer. Only missing Rahm (who was lights out round 1).
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No one really taking charge down the stretch. 5-6 man playoff possible, with very big names up top.
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Golf has become unwatchable, unless you want to see the same 2-3 golfers picking their ass while they wait.
I used to be able to outdrive most amateurs and with decent accuracy. After that, it was a disaster. Couldn't chip or putt.
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Just got tweeted at by Harold Varner III. He may be taking the blood money, but at least he’s taking the high road on Twitter…
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Just got tweeted at by Harold Varner III. He may be taking the blood money, but at least he’s taking the high road on Twitter…
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We know he is not Jobu, as he would take your picture and draw a penis near your mouth in response to your taunting.
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Don’t see what the problem is with LIV. The greedy PGA is the problem.
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Don’t see what the problem is with LIV. The greedy PGA is the problem.
Players accepting millions of dollars to essentially play exhibition golf to lend legitimacy to a murderous and repressive regime via “sportswashing,” doesn’t bother you, huh?
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Players accepting millions of dollars to essentially play exhibition golf to lend legitimacy to a murderous and repressive regime via “sportswashing,” doesn’t bother you, huh?
Your selective outrage is spectacular. Listening to The Score to "sportwash" the Ricketts' funding of people you find reprehensible is ok though!
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Your selective outrage is spectacular. Listening to The Score to "sportwash" the Ricketts' funding of people you find reprehensible is ok though!
More, hilarity from the SelectiveMoralOutrageMan. Comparing the Ricketts to the murderous and oppressive regime of the Royal Saudis. And listening to a sports radio station, a station not even owned by the Ricketts is somehow morally reprehensible.
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More, hilarity from the SelectiveMoralOutrageMan. Comparing the Ricketts to the murderous and oppressive regime of the Royal Saudis. And listening to a sports radio station, a station not even owned by the Ricketts is somehow morally reprehensible.
How do you know they are not murderous with their anti-vax/pro-police/anti-LGBTQ+ stances? Does the station pay the Ricketts? Yes, yes it does. Handsomely. It is called calling out your hypocrisy.
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Players accepting millions of dollars to essentially play exhibition golf to lend legitimacy to a murderous and repressive regime via “sportswashing,” doesn’t bother you, huh?
Oh JFC…
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Oh JFC…
What does Justin Fields have to do with this?
Seriously, though…do you have an actual rebuttal?
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How do you know they are not murderous with their anti-vax/pro-police/anti-LGBTQ+ stances? Does the station pay the Ricketts? Yes, yes it does. Handsomely. It is called calling out your hypocrisy.
Yet you are too proudly dumb to realize Blackhawk and White Sox ownership also donate to Republicans. And I call bullshit on your “I don’t use any products that donate to Republicans” delusion.
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Yet you are too proudly dumb to realize Blackhawk and White Sox ownership also donate to Republicans. And I call bullshit on your “I don’t use any products that donate to Republicans” delusion.
You seriously do not think there is a difference between the Trumpers and the "Rockerfeller" Republicans (which are now probably the Bush Republicans)? Hell, I have voted for Republicans in this state that are hated by the looney Bailey/Proft/Trumpers sect that the Ricketts belong to.
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Rockefeller Republicans? lol This isn’t 1996. Liz Cheney was too unappetizing for this GOP. There are no more Rockefeller Republicans. Certainly not ones that matter.
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Rockefeller Republicans? lol This isn’t 1996. Liz Cheney was too unappetizing for this GOP. There are no more Rockefeller Republicans. Certainly not ones that matter.
The last Illinois GOP governor was one. And you have proved that point. Keep supporting The Score and its payments to The Ricketts Klan (that has perpetuated this).
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The last Illinois GOP governor was one. And you have proved that point. Keep supporting The Score and its payments to The Ricketts Klan (that has perpetuated this).
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I think you missed the part where he was attacked on his right flank for expanding abortion coverage under Medicare.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-bruce-rauner-abortion-hb40-met-0929-20170928-story.html
A somber Gov. Bruce Rauner on Thursday signed into law a controversial measure to expand taxpayer-subsidized abortions, drawing unusually sharp criticism from fellow Republicans who accused him of breaking his promise to veto the bill.
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I think you missed the part where he was attacked on his right flank for expanding abortion coverage under Medicare.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-bruce-rauner-abortion-hb40-met-0929-20170928-story.html
A somber Gov. Bruce Rauner on Thursday signed into law a controversial measure to expand taxpayer-subsidized abortions, drawing unusually sharp criticism from fellow Republicans who accused him of breaking his promise to veto the bill.
So that’s your proof he didn’t enable Trump?
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So that’s your proof he didn’t enable Trump?
That's proof he was what I said he was.
Your Google ads and feed are going to be hilarious after today. Trump and My Pillow Guy are going to hitting you up hard for $.
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That's proof he was what I said he was.
Your Google ads and feed are going to be hilarious after today. Trump and My Pillow Guy are going to hitting you up hard for $.
Yeah, Rauner is a real moderate lol.
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Yeah, Rauner is a real moderate lol.
Yeah, he governed as
a real Trumper. Man, every day you post here helps explain why you are living alone.
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Yeah, he governed as
a real Trumper. Man, every day you post here helps explain why you are living alone.
Again, you speak from ignorance.
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Rauner didn’t go out of his way to associate himself with Trump; but trust me, Rauner was more than fine with the vast majority of Trump policies. He tried to keep a low profile on Trump, but he was hardly a moderate.
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Again, you speak from ignorance.
I don't think I am on this one.
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I don't think I am on this one.
Ignorance and arrogance.
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Ignorance and arrogance.
Jeanne Ives and Bailey disagree with you.
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Rauner didn’t go out of his way to associate himself with Trump; but trust me, Rauner was more than fine with the vast majority of Trump policies. He tried to keep a low profile on Trump, but he was hardly a moderate.
A lot of Trump's policies were red meat GOP policies. Of course there was overlap. Low taxes, small cap gains, less government regs, anti union. Yet all the die hard IL Trumpers thought Rauner was a RINO. I never thought Rauner hated NATO, loved Putin, or bought into this America First garbage that would let the Chinese take a huge mortgage out on Africa. If you can't see the difference, there is no helping you.
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Jeanne Ives and Bailey disagree with you.
I was referring to my living conditions, you arrogant jackass. He’s slightly less nuts than Darren Bailey. Yay. What a moderate.
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A lot of Trump's policies were red meat GOP policies. Of course there was overlap. Low taxes, small cap gains, less government regs, anti union. Yet all the die hard IL Trumpers thought Rauner was a RINO. I never thought Rauner hated NATO, loved Putin, or bought into this America First garbage that would let the Chinese take a huge mortgage out on Africa. If you can't see the difference, there is no helping you.
I would say the same about listening to The Score vs supporting Trumpers. Yes, there were a few differences. But at the end of the day Rauner would have supported 90% of anything the GOP and Trump could pass. He was no moderate. The GOP also thought Liz Cheney was a RINO. She’d support just about any Trump policy if you took out the craziness.
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Rauner’s policies run contrary to just about everything I believe in. He embraced Trump when it was politically convenient, kept his name at arms length when it wasn’t.
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Rauner’s policies run contrary to just about everything I believe in. He embraced Trump when it was politically convenient, kept his name at arms length when it wasn’t.
But the Ricketts are all good. Hmmm. Ok.
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Lol
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One more thread that took a big ol shit. lol
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One more thread that took a big ol shit. lol
It was about golf. It only became interesting when golf was not the main topic.
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It was about golf. It only became interesting when golf was not the main topic.
Valid point.
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https://nypost.com/2023/03/08/tiger-woods-ex-erica-herman-wants-nda-nullified-over-sexual-harassment-clause/
Tiger Woods’ ex Erica Herman wants NDA nullified over sexual harassment clause
Maybe The Score guys will interview her!
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Turns out Tiger learned a lot from MJ.
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Tempo why are you upset with golfers making more money?! Funny how the PGA starting increasing salary’s and prizes once LIV came around. Those greedy bastards were screwing golfers this whole time. They deserve all the deflections they get from people leaving.
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Tempo why are you upset with golfers making more money?!
Because of who the money is coming from.
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Tempo why are you upset with golfers making more money?! Funny how the PGA starting increasing salary’s and prizes once LIV came around. Those greedy bastards were screwing golfers this whole time. They deserve all the deflections they get from people leaving.
Players like Jon Rahm and Scottie Scheffler said they have/had no problem with what they were paid. They had to increase payouts so they wouldn’t lose more players to the Saudis and their deep blood soaked pockets.
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Cam Smith made $3.6 million for winning the Players Championship last year. Not bad for a weeks’ work.
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Because of who the money is coming from.
Judge Judy, just remember Tempo has no problem listening to The Score despite its advertising dollars (which are based on ratings, i.e. woke people like Tempo listening) going to the Ricketts, whose politics he finds completely deplorable.
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Fred, my guy.
https://www.ocregister.com/2023/03/14/fred-couples-tees-off-on-liv-golf-and-nutbag-phil-mickelson
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Peak Scottie Scheffler vs regained his form Jason Day in Match Play is appointment TV!
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WGC Match Play delivered today! Scottie had 8 birds and Day had 6 birdies and an eagle.
Scottie vs best friend Sam Burns tomorrow.
Rory and Cam Young both playing lights out are the other final four match. Rory is my guy, and Scottie is the best player in the world at the moment; but I think Cam Young gets his first PGA win tomorrow.
Love this format. I’ve played match play before, so much fun.
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Tempo, went out for a drink after watching the games at a friend's house and the friend knew some guy who plays WPT. Did not get his screen name. Sorry. But he says he tells people he's playing that he, in real life, drove some green on a hole on a Vegas course in the app and his opponents usually say "Fuck you."
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Tempo, went out for a drink after watching the games at a friend's house and the friend knew some guy who plays WPT. Did not get his screen name. Sorry. But he says he tells people he's playing that he, in real life, drove some green on a hole on a Vegas course in the app and his opponents usually say "Fuck you."
Must be Wolf Creek. It’s the easiest course to play. Lots of eagle opportunities. There are a couple of drivable par 4s. I’ve nearly holed out in one on those multiple times. Anyone who is level 80 or above can probably reach those.
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Oh, you’re saying he drove it real life? I could see that, from certain tees or if the wind is helping.
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The app doesn’t let you swear anymore. Lol I’ve even been censored on words that weren’t even swear words.
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Even though I have had a hole in one, I consider the best shot I’ve ever hit a drive into a 317 yard par 4 to within 3.5 feet of the hole. Had a nasty downhill breaker for eagle. Easily 3 puttable, firm green. I missed the eagle putt ran it 4-4.5 feet by. The birdie putt coming back up the hill (also with break) was probably the most stressful putt I’ve ever stood over. Lol didn’t want to waste a perfect drive on a par. I made the comebacker for birdie. A hole in one takes some luck, so I don’t consider that the best shot I ever hit.
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Scottie Scheffler is ridiculous. 3 down through like 4 and now even through 8.
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Scheffler up 2 thru 10 after being down 3. Unflappable.
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Two great matches! Scheffler and Young both win 18 to force extra holes.
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Scheffler lets Burns off the hook missing a 5 footer. Spent an inordinate amount of time evaluating the putt. Knew that was a bad sign. Scheffler is almost the perfect golfer right now, though. Mental game reminds me of Nicklaus/Woods.
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Cam Young pulls out incredible win against Rory. Looked behind the 8 ball on par 5 with horrible lie against collar in fairway bunker. Pitches out, makes birdie on Rory who looked like he had the advantage. Love Rory, but he’s got some Phil Mickelson and Fred Couples in him (lets too many get away).
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Wow, Burns beats Scottie in the same fashion. Ball dies at the hole but falls in for the win.
NBC not happy with the Final.
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Shocked Scottie did not win. Like both Burns and Cam Young, but I am firmly team Cam here. Time to get his first Tour win. He’ll likely win multiple majors IMO.
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Took a short nap, and Burns is running away with it. Burns was playing like crap this year. Has found his form. I think all of these guys will be players to watch at Augusta.
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Aaron Wise is WEAK.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/03/31/aaron-wise-withdraws-masters-focus-on-mental-health/
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Aaron Wise is WEAK.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/03/31/aaron-wise-withdraws-masters-focus-on-mental-health/
Odds are he is. He's a golfer. They are all mostly mentally weak. "I need quiet to shoot a shot!" Wah wah wah. Tiger would kick their asses when he was younger because he was not weak back then.
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Odds are he is. He's a golfer. They are all mostly mentally weak. "I need quiet to shoot a shot!" Wah wah wah. Tiger would kick their asses when he was younger because he was not weak back then.
The advanced level of skill helped. Plus, he had a better bodyguard *cough* caddie.
https://youtu.be/fKCwv3S2rKE
https://youtu.be/fKCwv3S2rKE
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The Masters this week! Let’s talk some golf!
The term “DP World Tour” still sounds awkward and funny to me.
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/dp-world-tour-claims-legal-victory-over-liv-golf-opening-door-for-league-to-fine-suspend-liv-players/
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Just for designated events right
Jack and Tiger have said they want cuts at their events.
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I’ve watched this a few times over the past month or so, and laughed every time.
https://twitter.com/pgatour/status/1635097344424198144?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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The sequel was better than the original.
https://twitter.com/skratch/status/1635348348814381056?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Hit some balls at the range yesterday, it was 81 degrees. Swing feels good. Playing some actual golf soon.
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Hit some balls at the range yesterday, it was 81 degrees. Swing feels good. Playing some actual golf soon.
Noice.
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Going to KC for work next week and one of my territory managers is getting some rounds set up.
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Going to KC for work next week and one of my territory managers is getting some rounds set up.
LMK where you play. I lived in KC a couple years. Ironhorse and Indian Hills were decent tracks as I recall. I liked Alvamar in Lawrence. Excellent greens. Had a hole in one at Hodge Park around 1998.
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Will do
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Koepka blowing the doors off so far. He’s one of my favorite golfers.
The amateur is making some noise as well.
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I just want someone from LIV golf to win. The PGA tour blows.
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Koepka blowing the doors off so far. He’s one of my favorite golfers.
The amateur is making some noise as well.
He’s playing really well. He’s also benefitting big time from the favorable weather advantage. If the weather is what they’ve been saying it will be this afternoon he could be leading by 6 tomorrow.
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Personally, I think he’s a jagoff. Hope he falls on his face.
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Rory off to a slow start AGAIN at Augusta. I really thought this would be the week he finally put it together here.
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I just want someone from LIV golf to win. The PGA tour blows.
Of course you like the socialist, no cut league, where winning does not matter.
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Of course you like the socialist, no cut league, where winning does not matter.
This is amazing. Si Woo climbs about 10 spots on my favorite players list today!
https://twitter.com/overthebackgolf/status/1644334935681953792?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Sounds like Donald Trump runs this LIV Twitter account.
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As well as Koepka is playing, I don’t think he wins this thing. Give me Jason Day or Cam Young.
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Sounds like Donald Trump runs this LIV Twitter account.
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Gold Digest is corrupt?
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This fucking Sam Bennet kid (amateur) is in 5th place. Have you guys heard his story? It might be better than Chris Beard’s.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/36098474/masters-2023-sam-bennett-inspirational-tattoo
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As well as Koepka is playing, I don’t think he wins this thing. Give me Jason Day or Cam Young.
(Read in Trump voice) Everyone knows the golf media is corrupt.
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This fucking Sam Bennet kid (amateur) is in 5th place. Have you guys heard his story? It might be better than Chris Beard’s.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/36098474/masters-2023-sam-bennett-inspirational-tattoo
Kid is tearing it up so far. No fear.
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Hovland is hot so far too. That 50 foot putt he just made was fantastic. Gotta think he has a good chance this weekend if he keeps this up.
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Hovland is hot so far too. That 50 foot putt he just made was fantastic. Gotta think he has a good chance this weekend if he keeps this up.
Hope he doesn’t need his short game (he will). He chips like a 12 handicapper.
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Of course you like the socialist, no cut league, where winning does not matter.
Winning absolutely matters. They are playing for more money at Liv events than PGA events.
But maybe you mean the sign on bonus to play there?
And how is that different than any other professional sports league. It’s like saying Steph Curry doesn’t care about winning bc his salary is the same whether he wins the NBA Finals or doesn’t even make the playoffs. At least for LIV they are competing for more money on top of their sign up dollars.
Once PGA banned LIV players from their tourney, i been supporting LIV forever.
Oh no’s they Saudi govt funds it? Good. They are the only Arabs we can trust.
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Oh no’s they Saudi govt funds it? Good. They are the only Arabs we can trust.
Now, THIS is good comedy.
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Just as I pimp Jason Day he goes double bogey, bogey. Yikes.
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Winning absolutely matters. They are playing for more money at Liv events than PGA events.
But maybe you mean the sign on bonus to play there?
And how is that different than any other professional sports league. It’s like saying Steph Curry doesn’t care about winning bc his salary is the same whether he wins the NBA Finals or doesn’t even make the playoffs. At least for LIV they are competing for more money on top of their sign up dollars.
Once PGA banned LIV players from their tourney, i been supporting LIV forever.
Oh no’s they Saudi govt funds it? Good. They are the only Arabs we can trust.
Did they ever clear up whether their “winnings” get taken from their signing bonuses? Wonder where all that blood money came from?
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Wow, a LIV player is shredding the course and in 1st, and an amateur is in 2nd. Like it or not, the story lines are compelling.
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And Phil Mickelson’s emaciated and crusty skeleton is T11
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Day goes +4 on the last 4 holes of his round SMH
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Really surprised Scheffler took a step back today. 7th worst putting round of his career yesterday and it was still good for like top 5. Golf is such a difficult game to predict.
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Ouch.
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Fuck Rory, he’s a little bitch.
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This Masters is bizarre in like 40 different ways. Can’t even begin to list them all. Sepp Straka goes birdie, birdie, birdie to get into the mix and finishes bogey, bogey, bogey. Scheffler shits the bed. Fred Couples is a par machine. Rory is playing like an amateur on day 2, and an amateur is in 2nd place while a guy who hasn’t played actual competitive golf in 8 months is lapping the field.
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Is Tiger old enough for the Senior tour yet? I think he belongs there. Don’t see him ever being competitive on the PGA Tour
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I’m extremely impressed with that Bennett kid. I think they said you have to go clear back to 1958 to see what he’s doing. Wow!
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This Masters is bizarre in like 40 different ways. Can’t even begin to list them all. Sepp Straka goes birdie, birdie, birdie to get into the mix and finishes bogey, bogey, bogey. Scheffler shits the bed. Fred Couples is a par machine. Rory is playing like an amateur on day 2, and an amateur is in 2nd place while a guy who hasn’t played actual competitive golf in 8 months is lapping the field.
I thought Couples may be the oldest player to make the cut but Langer has him beat
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Couples bogeys 13. Bad memories at that hole. His 6 iron into Rae’s Creek in ‘98 is probably my worst memory as a Fred Couples/golf fan. He should have won his 2nd green jacket that year.
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Looks like Langher would still have him beat by about a month and a half if Fred doesn’t melt down.
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And…Fred looks poised to make bogey or potentially worse on 14.
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Langer was -3 and 6 shots off the lead. Fred won’t come close to that
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You said made cut, not low score for an old.
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If Koepka doesn’t have a meltdown, I don’t think there’s anybody that will threaten him. Things can turn around quickly here at Augusta though.
Here comes the weather and delays…
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If the weather is what they say it will be tomorrow I’d expect some carnage. Long way to go.
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Verne Lundquist sounds terrible. Depressing to hear
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Despite the tougher playing conditions, Jon Rahm is closing in on Koepka in a John Wick like fashion.
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And…Rahm bogeys. Man, my ability to mush golfers is probably unparalleled.
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Have to say, I did not think we’d see LIV players playing this well (mostly due to Koepka and Mickelson). Just didn’t think they would be competitively sharp. 27ish holes to go though. A lot could happen by tomorrow evening.
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Impressive cut streak still alive by Tiger, but on the struggle bus bigly today. +6 thru 7.
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Rahm is a fat ass. Way too out of shape for a 28 year old.
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Rahm and Koepka both slap dicking their way around the back nine. Koepka got a huge break from the gallery at 14.
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3rd round finally completed. Rahm and Koepka with 73s let a few players back into the mix. Cantlay and Hideki are back in the mix 5 and 6 back. A 66 maybe even 67 this afternoon has a pretty decent chance of getting them a victory.
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Mickelson golfed the fuck out of his ball today. Good showing for a few LIV players, but I think they will come up short. Minus a major screwup this is Rahm’s. Having said that, he’s teeing off at 12 as i type.
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Solid shot to middle of green.
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If Koepka had played any competitive golf the last 8 months he might have had a chance. Another Spaniard wins the Masters!
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Congrats to Phil. Has to be the best finish for a guy as old as him at the Masters.
LIV having 2/3 in the top 3 is nice for them. Wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Rahm for next year.
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Congrats to Phil. Has to be the best finish for a guy as old as him at the Masters.
LIV having 2/3 in the top 3 is nice for them. Wouldn’t surprise me if they sign Rahm for next year.
Zero chance. Rahm is obsessed with legacy and history. Not money. I would be utterly floored if he signed with LIV. LIV will likely be gone in 2 years.
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Lefty bringing the heat and Brooks not coming to play on Sunday were the stories for me.
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Back to LIV. They had a surprisingly good showing at the top of the leaderboard, but I don’t think this does anything to move the needle for them. Fans have largely drawn their lines, and LIVs ratings were beyond abysmal.
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Back to LIV. They had a surprisingly good showing at the top of the leaderboard, but I don’t think this does anything to move the needle for them. Fans have largely drawn their lines, and LIVs ratings were beyond abysmal.
You sign the guy who was the world #1 you're gonna have a good showing. Mickelson was a huge surprise, maybe it's something about being an older guy and not playing as much or under as much pressure helping your body. He looks pretty fit, good for him.
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You sign the guy who was the world #1 you're gonna have a good showing.
Don’t think I’m quite understanding this statement.
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Zero chance. Rahm is obsessed with legacy and history. Not money. I would be utterly floored if he signed with LIV. LIV will likely be gone in 2 years.
They got Cam Smith right after he won The Open. I wouldn't put it past them. Its more money and less work. Eventually the PGA will let the guys come back and play.
Remember, LIV is not preventing their guys from playing PGA events. It's the other way around.
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They got Cam Smith right after he won The Open. I wouldn't put it past them. Its more money and less work. Eventually the PGA will let the guys come back and play.
Remember, LIV is not preventing their guys from playing PGA events. It's the other way around.
Again, I don’t think Rahm is motivated by money. You can’t tell me LIV hasn’t dangled big bucks in front of Rahm, Rory, and Scottie already. Anything is possible, but I’d be very surprised if Rahm left for LIV. He’s spoken pretty strongly about where his loyalties lie.
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"Truth be told, I could retire right now with what I've made and I'd live a very happy life and not play golf again. So I've never really played the game of golf for monetary reasons. I play for the love of the game, and I want to play against the best in the world. I've always been interested in history and legacy, and right now the PGA Tour has that." - Jon Rahm
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I don’t think he’ll make the move to the LIV tour, but it wouldn’t shock me if he did.
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I don’t think he’ll make the move to the LIV tour, but it wouldn’t shock me if he did.
An HQ2 tradition unlike any other.
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I don’t think he’ll make the move to the LIV tour, but it wouldn’t shock me if he did.
It's pretty crazy what passes for cleverness around here.
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An HQ2 tradition unlike any other.b
That's actually not bad.
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I don’t think he’ll make the move to the LIV tour, but it wouldn’t shock me if he did.
I slightly lean to a call, but either raise or even fold would be reasonable. - Doug Polk
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https://sports.yahoo.com/tiny-michigan-city-declined-license-212220695.html
A tiny Michigan city declined a license for a marijuana/golf event featuring John Daly and Shooter McGavin
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No wonder people are flocking to LIV… 😂
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/36187162/reports-rory-mcilroy-docked-3m-skipping-rbc-heritage
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No wonder people are flocking to LIV… 😂
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/36187162/reports-rory-mcilroy-docked-3m-skipping-rbc-heritage
I don't really follow it, but are they really "flocking"?
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I don't really follow it, but are they really "flocking"?
No…
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Basically Rory is being fined $3 mil from a bonus program called “PIP (player incentive program),” requiring top 20 players be at elevated events (you’re allowed one missed event for personal or professional reasons). Rory surely knew the penalty before withdrawing. He missed The Sentry earlier in the season. $3 mil doesn’t mean much to Rory, he’s loaded. Like to the tune of $600 million plus
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His PIP incentive was 12 mil. So he gets 9 mil for being Rory McIlroy. Sign me up.
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There's a great Rich Eisen piece on Mickelson, basically saying that he'd probably take a mulligan on LIV if he could, he got 200M from LIV supposedly but has probably thrown away 2x that in endorsements and basically becoming Nick Faldo in the booth for the rest of his life once he stops playing.
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No doubt about it. Threw away a lot for the payday. Brandel Chamblee said he had the potential to be the best television analyst of all-time. No one would want him now. Definitely tarnished his legacy.
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Tiger reportedly turned down something like $600 million.
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Just won $750. If i play Morikawa like I did in my other lineups (instead of Schauffele) I’d have won 5k.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nM8H3VKz/B9-DBB470-6-EC9-4-F8-A-87-B8-253-EBF62931-E.png) (https://postimg.cc/hQrWjB5W)
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Just won $750. If i play Morikawa like I did in my other lineups (instead of Schauffele) I’d have won 5k.
(https://i.postimg.cc/nM8H3VKz/B9-DBB470-6-EC9-4-F8-A-87-B8-253-EBF62931-E.png) (https://postimg.cc/hQrWjB5W)
Taking on moklovin, not good.
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Taking on moklovin, not good.
He’s a high volume player. Probably plays thousands of dollars per slate.
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Currently in 1st place out of 23k plus players. It’s a $1 contest and weeklong, so haven’t won anything yet. Wish this was the weeklong $20 which pays 200k to winner.
(https://i.postimg.cc/hv3mSLSC/60-D0-DEFD-7028-46-C4-95-C5-A46-CC671-A6-F0.png) (https://postimg.cc/jnP2cJnN)
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Good luck!
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Thank you.
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Doing ok in the $20 too. But I’d change a couple spots in the lineup if I could. I used the Fitzpatrick brothers in a couple of other lineups but omitted them from the $20. It’s a team event, and even though Alex sucks compared to other players in the event, Matt is on fire and they will be motivated because the winners get 2 year exemptions on the PGA Tour. I’m sure they know each others’ game well which helps in this format.
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So in others words, Matt is throwing his brother a bone by having him for a teammate. His brother is obviously a good player, but not on the level of most Tour guys.
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893rd out of 42k for $20. Top 2% 1/4 way through Puts me in a good position be in the mix.
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Winning 8k at the 10 meter point in a 100 meter race lol
(https://i.postimg.cc/4Npzx0C0/9-F39108-F-7-EFC-4-AB5-8952-709-BC09-CE0-E0.png) (https://postimg.cc/Xp7Z2QYK)
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Former Illini Nick Hardy looks to be on his way to getting his first PGA Tour win (albeit in a team format). Good player. His teammate is even better. Congrats, Nick Hardy.
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Former Illini Nick Hardy looks to be on his way to getting his first PGA Tour win (albeit in a team format). Good player. His teammate is even better. Congrats, Nick Hardy.
You bet on him?
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You bet on him?
I’ve played him the past. Didn’t have any meaningful lineups with him this week. I played him and his partner in a couple showdown (single round) lineups this week.
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Might play me some Nick Hardy in DFS in the PGA Championship. Decent player who should get a confidence boost after the win.
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https://www.golfdigest.com/story/redditor-takes-divot-augusta-national-masters-deletes-account
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Scottie Scheffler is from another planet.
And here’s a video of my kid’s swing.
https://www.facebook.com/1028496182/posts/pfbid02KzkXHgE9FSDAXpQWpsZy5A6ioWywgDS6bm4xEZzMjaDSrQz6LNQvRsR8oSNHcAqjl/?mibextid=cr9u03
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Cool exchange between Scottie and Tiger. Sorry for the weird looking link.
https://twitter.com/KylePorterCBS/status/1656683187337060352?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1656683187337060352%7Ctwgr%5E9f01839b37091c9a99ff517765c823e015f2b663%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-20814478652848170313.ampproject.net%2F2304262219000%2Fframe.html
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Scottie Scheffler is from another planet.
And here’s a video of my kid’s swing.
https://www.facebook.com/1028496182/posts/pfbid02KzkXHgE9FSDAXpQWpsZy5A6ioWywgDS6bm4xEZzMjaDSrQz6LNQvRsR8obSNHcAqjl/?mibextid=cr9u03
Nice ball strike! Looks like he is ready for the LIV Tour!
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Nice ball strike! Looks like he is ready for the LIV Tour!
Never. PGA baby. No blood money in this family.
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It finally happened!
(https://i.postimg.cc/T2Lpbv0R/AED44549-95-DE-42-FB-A959-4-E389-A3879-BC.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/kDCJrZLZ)
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Another friend you were trolling?
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Another friend you were trolling?
He couldn’t take constructive criticism.
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PGA Championship at Oak Hill teed off this morning. Oak Hill making minced meat out of some of the world’s best players. Rahm +3, Rory +3. Scheffler -1 despite not playing well. Scheffler leads the world in strokes gained: magic beans
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Rahm actually +2 but about to go to +3 after his 4th straight bogey. Just watched one roll back to his feet.
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Scheffler -2 and he’s not even playing well. Lol 1 off the lead
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Woodland sucked ass this week, but this was nifty.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awoVFBPp_3w
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Looks like the Saudis have the best golfer in the world.
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Looks like the Saudis have the best golfer in the world.
3rd best maybe.
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I think Koepka might have coughed it up today if someone could have applied a bit more pressure early. If Scottie gets it going 2-3 holes earlier, he wins. Was hoping for more from Rory, but got what I expected to be honest. He’s my current favorite player and he reminds me exactly of my all-time favorite, Fred Couples. Shoots himself in the foot too often. Rory needs a new mental coach.
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Has there ever been a player that gets up more for majors than Brooks?
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Has there ever been a player that gets up more for majors than Brooks?
Nicklaus? Woods?
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He has 9 wins and 5 of them are majors.
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He has 9 wins and 5 of them are majors.
I get it, but Nicklaus had like 80 wins, 18 of them majors. He had 46 top 3 finishes. But yeah, Koepka shows up for the majors.
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Yes, that’s what I was getting at.
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Yes, that’s what I was getting at.
He has to argue, even when he agrees with you.
It’s amazing, really.
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He has to argue, even when he agrees with you.
It’s amazing, really.
The question was “has there ever been anyone…???” I’d argue yes. And I left out a few that could be in the discussion.
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Hogan had a stretch of 9 of 16 majors , including after nearly losing his life and having his legs smashed after being hit by a bus in a car accident. 9 wins despite rarely playing in the British (played it once, won). Rarely played in the PGA. It was a 36 hole finish back in that day, his legs couldn’t do it. So I’d say Hogan is “in the discussion.” But yes, Koepka really gets up for majors…
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Michael Block having a rough day at The Colonial. Surprised PAMan wasn’t ranting about how he stole a spot from a more deserving player.
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Michael Block having a rough day at The Colonial. Surprised PAMan wasn’t ranting about how he stole a spot from a more deserving player.
That makes no sense. Plus it is golf. Who cares if it is not a major?
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That makes no sense. Plus it is golf. Who cares if it is not a major?
Lol predictable
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Lol predictable
It still makes no sense.
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It still makes no sense.
Think about it.
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Think about it.
I read he was in last place. Did he quit on his team and his country?
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I read he was in last place. Did he quit on his team and his country?
No, but you’re probably closer than you think.
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No, but you’re probably closer than you think.
Well you will have to explain to me what you are talking about to get me to react/opine.
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Well you will have to explain to me what you are talking about to get me to react/opine.
Stop being intellectually lazy.
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I read he was in last place. Did he quit on his team and his country?
Nope, but he did get a text from Michael Jordan.
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I'm golfing 3x next week
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I'm golfing 3x next week
Noice.
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Stop being intellectually lazy.
Haha. Give me an article to read and I'll check it out. I don't know what you are talking about. Other than he is in last. Someone has to finish last.
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Haha. Give me an article to read and I'll check it out. I don't know what you are talking about. Other than he is in last. Someone has to finish last.
How about one that takes an hour? On a subject you’re not all that interested in to begin with?
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How about one that takes an hour? On a subject you’re not all that interested in to begin with?
I'll read it.
Basically you are telling me you don't have anything and are just yanking my chain
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I need a new (to me, anyways) putter
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I once had a beautiful Scotty Cameron Newport. I let it get condensation on it and it rusted out. I actually rusted it out more to complete the look.
Big fan of the White Hots.
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Illini Golf team in 1st place!
https://fightingillini.com/news/2023/5/27/mens-golf-no-3-illini-surge-to-lead-at-ncaa-championship.aspx
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i golfed in bloomington today
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i golfed in bloomington today
So what did you shoot?
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So what did you shoot?
2 over
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Per hole?
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Per hole?
+2 over 18 holes PAK
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I was a very very good golfer once and the best I ever shot was 75 for 18 (one under for 9 twice). You saying you shot a legit 74? On a real course?
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I’ve shot par or better on 9 probably 30 times. Never done it for 18. 74 is my best score, shot it twice. Once at George Dunne National and once at Highlands of Elgin.
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How fucking cool is this? Viktor climbing the list of my favorite players.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/06/05/viktor-hovland-caddies-college-teammate-us-open-final-qualifying/
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golfed friday ended at 16 over
golfed yesterday 14 over par
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I was a very very good golfer once and the best I ever shot was 75 for 18 (one under for 9 twice). You saying you shot a legit 74? On a real course?
it was as a team, best ball
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it was as a team, best ball
That seems a lot more believable.
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Another reason why the PGA sucks being laid bare today...
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https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1666100765243441153?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Fucking PGA just did what it told all its players not to do. Fucking hypocrites!
Have fun Tempo defending your PGA golfers loyalty!
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https://twitter.com/sportscenter/status/1666100765243441153?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 Fucking PGA just did what it told all its players not to do. Fucking hypocrites!
Have fun Tempo defending your PGA golfers loyalty!
Rory, Tiger, Rahm, Scottie et al did the correct, moral thing. They were stabbed in the back by Jay Monahan. Disgusting.
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I shouldn’t be surprised that conservatives celebrate the victory of a brutally oppressive regime and greedy golf millionaires, but somehow it still surprises me a bit.
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I shouldn’t be surprised that conservatives celebrate the victory of a brutally oppressive regime and greedy golf millionaires, but somehow it still surprises me a bit.
Including your favorite “morally correct” golfers 😂 whom you root for and support. Get off your high horse.
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I shouldn’t be surprised that conservatives celebrate the victory of a brutally oppressive regime and greedy golf millionaires, but somehow it still surprises me a bit.
Who is celebrating?
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Merge, is so much prettier than hostile takeover. The medieval kingdom seeks legitimacy through international sports.
I wonder if they'll introduce a capital punishment element to the game.
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I wonder if they'll introduce a capital punishment element to the game.
That would make golf a must see event each weekend instead of just the Majors (which I barely watch).
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What an oily resolution. Maybe the sheiks can throw their $ at the WNBA, another failing league.
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Maybe the sheiks can throw their $ at the WNBA, another failing league.
That would piss Spark off.
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Who is celebrating?
Conservatives. They love this.
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Including your favorite “morally correct” golfers whom you root for and support. Get off your high horse.
Typical Trump cultist think. “Who cares if Trump is a terrible, awful human being, and a liar! He’s exposing the establishment for what they are!”
It’s like throwing your support behind the Joker in The Dark Knight.
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Conservatives. They love this.
As they should…
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Including your favorite “morally correct” golfers whom you root for and support. Get off your high horse.
Actually, the majority of golfers (PGA) are pissed. It’s Jay Monahan that sold out the Tour. None of the players even knew. Doesn’t look like Greg Norman even knew what LIV was doing. Norman looks to be out. This was power brokers acting in their own self-interests.
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As they should…
You’re a fan of getting into bed with those who murder journalists, are ya.
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Merge, is so much prettier than hostile takeover. The medieval kingdom seeks legitimacy through international sports.
I wonder if they'll introduce a capital punishment element to the game.
When LIV first started I used to say on Twitter they should celebrate each winner with the beheading of a gay person or a journalist.
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Including your favorite “morally correct” golfers 😂 whom you root for and support. Get off your high horse.
(https://i.postimg.cc/HxYPKWmv/C453-A69-A-5537-48-FC-99-CC-7-B971-D8-F4-A8-F.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/d7fBZYLG)
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Let me know when the PGA guys boycott and start their own league.
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Let me know when the PGA guys boycott and start their own league.
Or the tv viewers and corporate sponsors.
https://www.state.gov/united-states-saudi-arabia-relationship-eight-decades-of-partnership/
" The United States is the top defense supplier for Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi defense establishment remains the single largest U.S. Foreign Military Sales (FMS) customer, with cases valued at more than $140 billion. "
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Or the tv viewers and corporate sponsors.
https://www.state.gov/united-states-saudi-arabia-relationship-eight-decades-of-partnership/
" The United States is the top defense supplier for Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi defense establishment remains the single largest U.S. Foreign Military Sales (FMS) customer, with cases valued at more than $140 billion. "
Nothing like a little Realpolitik to smack you right upside the head.
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Let me know when the PGA guys boycott and start their own league.
I don’t know if career suicide is a smart protest move. A new league could work…if Tiger were spearheading it. That’s about the only path that would have.
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Nothing like a little Realpolitik to smack you right upside the head.
It’s not apples to apples. It’s barely oranges to apples.
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Or the tv viewers and corporate sponsors.
https://www.state.gov/united-states-saudi-arabia-relationship-eight-decades-of-partnership/
" The United States is the top defense supplier for Saudi Arabia, and the Saudi defense establishment remains the single largest U.S. Foreign Military Sales (FMS) customer, with cases valued at more than $140 billion. "
Everyone with a brain knows this. It’s got next to nothing to do with the PGA Tour.
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I don’t know if career suicide is a smart protest move. A new league could work…if Tiger were spearheading it. That’s about the only path that would have.
Golfers are not principled? Weren't a few of them vocal about being against the Saudi money?
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Golfers are not principled? Weren't a few of them vocal about being against the Saudi money?
Just about everyone I know of was careful to walk the line and keep it mostly about loyalty to the Tour that gave them so much opportunity. I don’t think Rory even ventured into “blood money” territory. But Brandel Chamblee and Eamon Lynch did. But they are tv personalities and journalists.
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Everyone with a brain knows this. It’s got next to nothing to do with the PGA Tour.
September 11th was raised by the PGA Tour head, right, yet you said it would be career suicide to boycott.
As Judge Judy intimated, sounding like you agree that money talks and BS walks.
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September 11th was raised by the PGA Tour head, right, yet you said it would be career suicide to boycott.
As Judge Judy intimated, sounding like you agree that money talks and BS walks.
Wait, slow down. I think you just implied things I didn’t say.
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September 11th was raised by the PGA Tour head, right, yet you said it would be career suicide to boycott.
As Judge Judy intimated, sounding like you agree that money talks and BS walks.
Monahan is clearly a hypocrite and negotiated the deal. I’m not sure he counts. And the closest he said anything about blood money or Khashoggi (that I’m aware of) was “Have you ever had to be ashamed to be a PGA Tour player?”
In this case, of course the money won out. Who’s denying that?
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Wait, slow down. I think you just implied things I didn’t say.
Ok. Where did I misspeak?
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“Starting your own tour,” and “boycotting” aren’t the same thing.
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“Starting your own tour,” and “boycotting” aren’t the same thing.
Here…
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Monahan is clearly a hypocrite and negotiated the deal. I’m not sure he counts. And the closest he said anything about blood money or Khashoggi (that I’m aware of) was “Have you ever had to be ashamed to be a PGA Tour player?”
In this case, of course the money won out. Who’s denying that?
He did cited 9/11 as well.
How does he not count? He runs the PGA.
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He did cited 9/11 as well.
How does he not count? He runs the PGA.
He negotiated the deal. The players didn’t. Most of them are upset at him. And they make their living by playing on the Tour, so it’s not surprising they might be diplomatic.
If your firm took on Donald Trump as a client would you resign in protest and start your own law firm?
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Here…
That's true. But you can a. boycott and go do something unrelated to the PGA/golf or you can b. boycott and start own league.
Aren't both under the "career suicide" umbrella of which you spoke?
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That's true. But you can a. boycott and go do something unrelated to the PGA/golf or you can b. boycott and start own league.
Aren't both under the "career suicide" umbrella of which you spoke?
Without Tiger, or literally a giant glob of the biggest stars a new league wouldn’t work.
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If 6 or 8 of the top 12 players in the world started pulling out of events perhaps that would at least get a new PGA Tour CEO.
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He negotiated the deal. The players didn’t. Most of them are upset at him. And they make their living by playing on the Tour, so it’s not surprising they might be diplomatic.
If your firm took on Donald Trump as a client would you resign in protest and start your own law firm?
I could go to another firm too. I could start IlliniHQ3 and make millions like Dan at Loyalty.
There is no "other league" for them to go to is there? They would have to start their own league at this point.
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Without Tiger, or literally a giant glob of the biggest stars a new league wouldn’t work.
Probably. As we saw, the LIV was not working out very well.
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I could go to another firm too. I could start IlliniHQ3 and make millions like Dan at Loyalty.
There is no "other league" for them to go to is there? They would have to start their own league at this point.
Much easier as a lawyer. Not many PGA Tours laying around to go play on.
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Probably. As we saw, the LIV was not working out very well.
The PGA was literally holding all the cards. Either Monahan sold out completely or lawsuits were going to drain more out of the PGA than they were willing to endure. Probably bit off more than they could chew by increasing prize money.
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The PGA was literally holding all the cards. Either Monahan sold out completely or lawsuits were going to drain more out of the PGA than they were willing to endure. Probably bit off more than they could chew by increasing prize money.
They were going to have to open their books. They did not want the "rank and file" to know what they were doing with all the money.
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They were going to have to open their books. They did not want the "rank and file" to know what they were doing with all the money.
Certainly plausible.
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The litigation issue was mentioned in Monahan's original statement.
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September 11th was raised by the PGA Tour head, right, yet you said it would be career suicide to boycott.
As Judge Judy intimated, sounding like you agree that money talks and BS walks.
This. Tempo talks about their principles… until they reap the money. Fuck those hypocrites. At least golfers like Koepka, Mickelson, and others didn’t fucking bullshit people. They took the money and don’t look like fucking idiots/hypocrites/woke fucktards now.
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They were going to have to open their books. They did not want the "rank and file" to know what they were doing with all the money.
And this. Fucking criminal fucks just like they accused the Saudi’s of. Not saying the Saudi’s aren’t, but at least they don’t try to hide it…
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Oh shut up Rory, you’ll take the dirty money too…
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commish
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They were going to have to open their books. They did not want the "rank and file" to know what they were doing with all the money.
Or the IRS. Anyone else think that taking a hard look at "non-profits" is a good idea? Put those agents to work sleepy Joe!
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This. Tempo talks about their principles… until they reap the money. Fuck those hypocrites. At least golfers like Koepka, Mickelson, and others didn’t fucking bullshit people. They took the money and don’t look like fucking idiots/hypocrites/woke fucktards now.
I can’t speak for 200 hundred players on the PGA Tour. Only myself. I know most of them don’t view the issue exactly the same way I do.
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Oh shut up Rory, you’ll take the dirty money too…
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37812363/rory-mcilroy-hopes-liv-goes-away-confidence-commish
Lol. Typical Trumptard like response from JJ. Again, most players weren’t refusing the money on “moral grounds.” I’m not sure I heard any one but Brandel Chamblee or Eamon Lynch (non players) go all the way out on that limb.
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Lol. Typical Trumptard like response from JJ. Again, most players weren’t refusing the money on “moral grounds.” I’m not sure I heard any one but Brandel Chamblee or Eamon Lynch (non players) go all the way out on that limb.
I did not follow this. But what reasons were there for them not following the money?
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I did not follow this. But what reasons were there for them not following the money?
Loyalty to the PGA Tour, which gave them the platform to be as successful as they are. Legacy. I guarandamntee you Jon Rahm stayed because he cares about legacy. Not money. Same with Tiger. If any player went hard after LIV on moral grounds I missed it. And I’m the biggest PGA fan here, probably by a wide margin.
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Not saying the implications weren’t there, they were; but I’m not sure I heard one player mention Jamal Khashoggi, for example. Other than Phil, who’d already joined LIV. I believe Phil mentioned him when he called the Saudis “Scary M’fers,” despite holding his hand out for the money.
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I guess Rory did mention Khashoggi (once at least anyway). But I think they were careful not go too hard on moral grounds, which disappoints me actually. I wish PGA Tour players had been more vocal about the human rights’ issues.
“Take the Khashoggi situation,” he said. “We all agree that’s reprehensible. Nobody is going to argue that fact.”
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I guess Rory did mention Khashoggi (once at least anyway). But I think they were careful not go too hard on moral grounds, which disappoints me actually. I wish PGA Tour players had been more vocal about the human rights’ issues.
“Take the Khashoggi situation,” he said. “We all agree that’s reprehensible. Nobody is going to argue that fact.”
They are golfers. Maybe you expect too much from people who play a non-team sport?
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They are golfers. Maybe you expect too much from people who play a non-team sport?
Replace “expect” with “hope for.” Again, I’ve been stating why they wouldn’t leave the tour. Because it’s their job and it’s by far the best place to perform their job. I’d “hope” for more harsh criticism of LIV, but I can understand why they would be careful in those waters. I don’t like it, but I get it.
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Replace “expect” with “hope for.” Again, I’ve been stating why they wouldn’t leave the tour. Because it’s their job and it’s by far the best place to perform their job. I’d “hope” for more harsh criticism of LIV, but I can understand why they would be careful in those waters. I don’t like it, but I get it.
Fair enough.
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At at the end of the day LIV players are people they’ve called friends and fellow Tour pros for 2, 5, 10, 15 years.
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“Nobody’s perfect.”
Excellent journalism here.
https://sports.yahoo.com/nobodys-perfect-bryson-dechambeaus-disastrous-cnn-interview-a-warning-for-pga-tour-players-160259420.html
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Eamon Lynch, delivers as usual. Brilliant golf writer.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/06/11/eamon-lynch-pga-tour-deal-saudis-measured-in-what-is-lost-reputations/
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LIV/PGA Tour marriage far from a slam dunk.
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37841251/pga-tour-liv-golf-partnership-facing-government-scrutiny
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Eamon Lynch, delivers as usual. Brilliant golf writer.
https://golfweek.usatoday.com/2023/06/11/eamon-lynch-pga-tour-deal-saudis-measured-in-what-is-lost-reputations/
The only reason the PGA did it is because they didn’t wanna open their books in a lawsuit. Goes to show you they were afraid of having to explain where all the money went. Crooks acting like the PGA is a non-profit. GTFOOH.
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Certainly plausible. They also aren’t built for long drawn-out lawsuits with the richest family in the world.
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Certainly plausible. They also aren’t built for long drawn-out lawsuits with the richest family in the world.
I just don’t find the outrage you and others have about “loyalty” and some golfers deflecting to LIV. It’s weird. Rory and others always have the option to go play somewhere else if their “morals” are so good and they won’t take blood money. Of course him and the others won’t/aren’t gonna do that. So what’s the big deal?! They’ll take it and enjoy it, except they missed out on a big payday. If anything they should be mad at the PGA for smuggling the money that should’ve went to their golfers on Tour from winning events.
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It’s pretty funny that JudgeJudy thinks the PGA Tour looks like the bad guys and cheers on the Saudi Royal families’ takeover of a charitable (if not perfect) entity.
It’s exactly the same mentality that drives the Trump cult.
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It’s pretty funny that JudgeJudy thinks the PGA Tour looks like the bad guys and cheers on the Saudi Royal families’ takeover of a charitable (if not perfect) entity.
It’s exactly the same mentality that drives the Trump cult.
Nice strawman. You’re an idiot. I never said that at all. I’m saying that all you righteous assholes look pretty fucking hypocritical now. You still gonna watch golf? They still gonna play? Support the same thing you thought was “awful?!”
Edit- And SOMEHOW Tempo brings up Trump regarding this. It’s truly fascinating how fucked up people are regarding bringing him up for EVERYTHING. Pardon my use of this word, but it is fucking RETARDED!!!
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Perfect response. But not in the way he thinks.
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Perfect response. But not in the way he thinks.
Sure, go hide your head in the sand and act like there’s nothing to see here.
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Two hypocritical men make a surreptitious deal with the corrupt Saudis, and somehow Scottie Scheffler and Rory McIlroy are the bad guys. Perfect logic.
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Two hypocritical men make a surreptitious deal with the corrupt Saudis, and somehow Scottie Scheffler and Rory McIlroy are the bad guys. Perfect logic.
I guess we’ll see where their morals lie going forward…
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If they continue to take the money they’re just as corrupt and hypocritical as the others.
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I guess we’ll see where their morals lie going forward…
No reasonable person would expect them to abandon their careers in order to make a “moral stand.” You are a dipshit with totally unreasonable expectations.
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If they continue to take the money they’re just as corrupt and hypocritical as the others.
No, they aren’t. I’d argue MBS, who beheads journalists and gays is worse. Even Phil Mickelson isn’t as bad as MBS.
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No, they aren’t. I’d argue MBS, who beheads journalists and gays is worse. Even Phil Mickelson isn’t as bad as MBS.
Again, you’re creating a strawman. I never said they were as bad as MBS. You’re misinterpreting I’m saying. They’re no better than Mickelson, Norman, Koepka, etc, or anyone else that took the payday they did to join LIV. That’s my argument.
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Again, you’re creating a strawman. I never said they were as bad as MBS. You’re misinterpreting I’m saying. They’re no better than Mickelson, Norman, Koepka, etc, or anyone else that took the payday they did to join LIV.
I would disagree with that as well. Those players chose to go to LIV. The others didn’t. Also, judging by reports that 90% of the feedback in the players meeting with Monahan was anti-merger (reports said calls to replace Monahan were cheered).
The LIV players made the decision to jump in bed with the Saudis willingly. The players who remained loyal to the Tour did so for various reasons. What do you expect McIlroy and Scheffler to do? Go play in Japan for 1/10th the money and no career legacy? That’s not a reasonable expectation.
With the exception of probably Cam Smith, every “star” player that joined LIV was not viewed in the best light by their peers. Mickelson, Reed, DeChambeu, Johnson, and Koepka were not by and large loved by their peers.
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Again, you’re creating a strawman. I never said they were as bad as MBS. You’re misinterpreting I’m saying. They’re no better than Mickelson, Norman, Koepka, etc, or anyone else that took the payday they did to join LIV.
Yes, I misconstrued your statement. My bad. There’s still no way Rory McIlroy is as awful a person as Pat Perez.
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Yes, I misconstrued your statement. My bad. There’s still no way Rory McIlroy is as awful a person as Pat Perez.
I’m speaking as a whole. You can cherry pick certain golfers and their character, but overall they're all accepting blood money. Just like in life in general, there are worse people than others. You can compare anybody to anybody else to make any point.
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The bottom line is that McIlroy, Scheffler, Rahm, et al are professional golfers. That’s their job, and their passion. The fact that a merger (that they had no hand in creating) should mean they should just play in Japan for far less money and legacy is bullshit.
To say that guys that turned down money in the dozens of millions or even hundreds of millions in a few cases are “no different” than the guys who lapped up the money first chance they got is completely laughable.
Again, McIlroy, Scheffler, Rahm et al are the world’s best golfers. They are not political figures or statesman. I’d love it if they gave a huge finger to the Saudis and the PGA, but that is just not a realistic expectation.
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The bottom line is that McIlroy, Scheffler, Rahm, et al are professional golfers. That’s their job, and their passion. The fact that a merger (that they had no hand in creating) should mean they should just play in Japan for far less money and legacy is bullshit.
To say that guys that turned down money in the dozens of millions or even hundreds of millions in a few cases are “no different” than the guys who lapped up the money first chance they got is completely laughable.
Again, McIlroy, Scheffler, Rahm et al are the world’s best golfers. They are not political figures or statesman. I’d love it if they gave a huge finger to the Saudis and the PGA, but that is just not a realistic expectation.
So… money talks, regardless of principle. EVERYBODY can be bought. If they truly believe it’s wrong then that’s exactly what they should do is go somewhere else or find another profession. Basically they too have a price.
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So… money talks, regardless of principle. EVERYBODY can be bought. If they truly believe it’s wrong then that’s exactly what they should do is go somewhere else or find another profession. Basically they too have a price.
So if you were the best in the world at something you LOVED doing and made a great living doing it; and then basically, out of your control the Saudis invest billions into your profession are you telling me you’d stop doing what you love and worked your whole life to do out of principle? That is a very unrealistic expectation.
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If you think pro athletes should be expected to play for much less in a foreign country for much less recognition out of principle, your perspective is laughable. There isn’t one Tour player who helped negotiate that deal.
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What this shows is that the PGA Tour is indeed, a monopoly.
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Far from a done deal.
https://theathletic.com/4603650/2023/06/12/pga-tour-liv-golf-senate-investigation/
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So LIV aside, it’s US Open week! My favorite tournament of the year.
Really excited to see them play at Los Angeles Country Club. The course looks fantastic, and will be a bit different from your typical US Open course. Can’t wait to see it on TV.
https://www.golfchannel.com/news/2023-us-open-los-angeles-country-club-hole-hole-analysis-stewart-hagestad
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Jay Monahan taking a “medical leave of absence.” Sounds fishy.
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Great shot by amateur on first morning of the US Open.
https://www.si.com/golf/news/us-open-amateur-coolest-shot-los-angeles-country-club-michael-brennan
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Tom Watson with a well written open letter to Jay Monahan.
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/tom-watson-s-open-letter-to-pga-tour-commissioner-jay-monahan
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Good US Open last week. Some people are panning the course because of the good scores, but if you look at the leaderboard (all great players) you can see it was a quality test of golf.
Rory blew another one. Sigh…missed a 4 footer on the front and came up 10 yards short embedded in the bunker with a wedge on on the back nine Sunday to make bogey when par should have been worst case scenario. Lost by 1. Wyndham Clark was the “least best” name on the leaderboard but he is an ascending player. Super talented guy who has just put it together the last 4 -5 months.
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Good US Open last week. Some people are panning the course because of the good scores, but if you look at the leaderboard (all great players) you can see it was a quality test of golf.
Rory blew another one. Sigh…missed a 4 footer on the front and came up 10 yards short embedded in the bunker with a wedge on on the back nine Sunday to make bogey when par should have been worst case scenario. Lost by 1. Wyndham Clark was the “least best” name on the leaderboard but he is an ascending player. Super talented guy who has just put it together the last 4 -5 months.
Koepka definitely wasn’t impressed lol
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Koepka definitely wasn’t impressed lol
I saw his comments. Wouldn’t say they are invalid, but if a tournament has all studs at the top it’s a quality test. I’d say for him it was just a preference sort of thing. Not the traditional US Open, but I thought it was refreshing. Would probably change a couple of things if they were to host again.
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Mike Small currently tied for 5th at the US Senior Open.
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Only 2 shots off the lead.
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Small having a tough day. +6 thru 16. Now in T-33.
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https://dnyuz.com/2023/07/10/a-pga-tour-directors-exit-casts-a-pall-over-deal-with-liv-golf/
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https://dnyuz.com/2023/07/10/a-pga-tour-directors-exit-casts-a-pall-over-deal-with-liv-golf/
Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for sharing.
Seeming like the Liv Merger is all about Monahan, doesn't it? Is that your read?
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Seeming like the Liv Merger is all about Monahan, doesn't it? Is that your read?
Kind of felt that way from the day the agreement was announced.
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Well Rory looks like a fucking idiot hypocrite now doesn’t he…
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/37994194/pga-tour-pif-talks-eyed-greg-norman-ouster-tiger-woods-owned-liv-team
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Says Rory took the meeting not looking to enrich himself but to unify the game. I’d be curious to see more reporting on this.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFkRLws3/464-E8871-F5-BD-4-A07-B8-AE-3-D4-AD47-FFD4-F.png) (https://postimg.cc/nj1BH9tZ)
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If Rory truly wanted their money all he had to do was say “I’m in.” They’d have gladly paid him a few hundred million.
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I'm golfing Thursday. I hope to get under 10 over par
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Says Rory took the meeting not looking to enrich himself but to unify the game. I’d be curious to see more reporting on this.
(https://i.postimg.cc/RFkRLws3/464-E8871-F5-BD-4-A07-B8-AE-3-D4-AD47-FFD4-F.png) (https://postimg.cc/nj1BH9tZ)
Yes, I wanna see more as well. He sure has been very outspoken yet never mentioned meeting with these murderers and the such. Should be interesting. And don’t get it wrong, he sure as hell is trying to benefit himself. Just not in a direct, pay me this now, kinda way.
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Again, if Rory was in it for money he could have easily had said “I’m in” and gotten a couple hundred million or more. He’d have been the biggest prize LIV could land outside of Tiger.
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Jay Monahan can’t go testify before Congress this week due to his health, but apparently feels good enough to return to work Monday.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zGb9vJSS/B289-A8-E9-E3-AB-4-FD8-97-D1-558-BD14-A6546.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/87GyngYj)
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https://www.si.com/golf/news/jordan-spieth-xander-schauffele-say-jay-monahan-needs-to-regain-players-trust
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I'm golfing Thursday. I hope to get under 10 over par
If you work hard, maybe you can get your game up to par!
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Good for Rory. He might be a good guy after all…
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/38004823/rory-mcilroy-play-liv-golf-last-option-earth
Let’s just see if he sticks with it and actually does it.
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Good for Rory. He might be a good guy after all…
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/38004823/rory-mcilroy-play-liv-golf-last-option-earth
Let’s just see if he sticks with it and actually does it.
A true test whether Tempo was AOTC or BTC is upon us!
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Golf at 415 today
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Golf at 415 today
You sure play a lot of golf when at corporate.
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You sure play a lot of golf when at corporate.
Oh I get off at 4
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How fucking cool is this? Rickie, what a dude.
https://people.com/golfer-rickie-fowler-buys-course-where-he-learned-to-play-7560740?mibextid=Zxz2cZ
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Love watching The Open Championship. I really enjoy the way it looks and style of play. Brian Harman boat racing everyone at the moment, leading by 6. Should be a spicy weekend with the wind kicking up.
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I played golf Sunday, my final score 40 something over.
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See this Tempo?! Hell of a shot…
https://twitter.com/kyleportercbs/status/1684619784141377538?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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See this Tempo?! Hell of a shot…
https://twitter.com/kyleportercbs/status/1684619784141377538?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I did. Shared it on Twitter. Great stuff.
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Man, they click-baited me pretty badly. And then trolled me.
https://celebwell.com/female-golfers-amazing-bodies/
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I played golf Sunday, my final score 40 something over.
On a par 3? Post a video of your swing and I’ll give you some advice.
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Went to Jobu’s golf outing today.
(https://i.ibb.co/T1scNrm/IMG-0856.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vhS1MDZ)
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Went to Jobu’s golf outing today.
(https://i.ibb.co/T1scNrm/IMG-0856.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vhS1MDZ)
Lol
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Went to Jobu’s golf outing today.
(https://i.ibb.co/T1scNrm/IMG-0856.jpg) (https://ibb.co/vhS1MDZ)
I like Pete.
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https://www.smh.com.au/sport/golf/peter-thomson-won-three-british-opens-with-the-same-clubs-his-son-found-them-at-an-auction-20230727-p5drql.html
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Could throw another 200 and not make one.
https://x.com/usga/status/1690870018618101761?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Could throw another 200 and not make one.
https://x.com/usga/status/1690870018618101761?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Sorry, x.com, we elitists do not use that
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20 over yesterday
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Shot a smooth 80 Saturday
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Shot a smooth 80 Saturday
Captain's or Blackbeard's?
https://www.piratescove.net/locations/missouri/osage-beach/
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Captain's or Blackbeard's?
https://www.piratescove.net/locations/missouri/osage-beach/
Poppy Hills, with rented sticks.
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Poppy Hills, with rented sticks.
Fake news my buddy in Carmel reports no intolerable stench
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Fake news my buddy in Carmel reports no intolerable stench
That's good stuff, Murph.
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That's good stuff, Murph.
The good stuff has a stench but it's very tolerable.
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Golfed in petersburgh
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Fake news my buddy in Carmel reports no intolerable stench
Custard farts are pretty innocuous.
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Scored a double eagle on my golf app today. Only the 2nd one I’ve ever had! 251 out 30 mph winds.
(https://i.postimg.cc/43WVzg03/D8355-BC5-1369-4-C7-D-A8-D6-59-A07189028-D.png) (https://postimg.cc/Y4mvHJMc)
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Tour Championship just started. News breaks after they tee off that Rory pulled his back out at home (but will give it a go). This stuff should be reported before start time like in other sports.
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Scored a double eagle on my golf app today. Only the 2nd one I’ve ever had! 251 out 30 mph winds.
(https://i.postimg.cc/43WVzg03/D8355-BC5-1369-4-C7-D-A8-D6-59-A07189028-D.png) (https://postimg.cc/Y4mvHJMc)
awesome!
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Ryder Cup picks were an abomination. Fucking buddies getting picked over who truly deserved it. I halfway hope America gets their asses kicked again. Zach Johnson should be embarrassed.
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Ryder Cup picks were an abomination. Fucking buddies getting picked over who truly deserved it. I halfway hope America gets their asses kicked again. Zach Johnson should be embarrassed.
Why do you hate America? Helping your friends out is the American way. It is not like these guys kneeled for the US anthem or lost to 16 year old boys like the US ladies' soccer team.
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Why do you hate America? Helping your friends out is the American way. It is not like these guys kneeled for the US anthem or lost to 16 year old boys like the US ladies' soccer team.
I think it was Murph that said our country isn’t sure if we want the US women’s soccer team to win. Lol, fuck no we don’t want those losers even out on the soccer field. Who the fuck in American even watches soccer anyways?! Let alone women.
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Why do you hate America? Helping your friends out is the American way. It is not like these guys kneeled for the US anthem or lost to 16 year old boys like the US ladies' soccer team.
I root for great play and competition.
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I root for great play and competition.
Fair enough. Which picks do you not like?
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Fair enough. Which picks do you not like?
JT definitely didn’t earn it. Burns and Spieth are questionable. Keegan Bradley absolutely earned it, and I’d have chosen Lucas Glover as well. He’ll likely never get another shot to make the team.
Burns is Scottie’s best bud, and JT, Spieth, and Ricky are basically joined at the hip. It was bullshit.
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It’s literally enough to make me root for the Euros. I guess I’m a shitty “American” lol
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JT played like trash the last 4-5 months.
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Is there any greater American tradition than getting your shit packed in at The Ryder Cup?
Europe wins 1st session 4-0.
America looks like it had a chance to win a few matches in the afternoon until Rahm made eagle on 18, Rose and Viktor also drain clutch putts on 18 to halve matches the Americans had all but won.
6.5 to 1.5 Europe after day one.
Rahm holed out 3 chips on the day.
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Is there any greater American tradition than getting your shit packed in at The Ryder Cup?
Europe wins 1st session 4-0.
America looks like it had a chance to win a few matches in the afternoon until Rahm made eagle on 18, Rose and Viktor also drain clutch putts on 18 to halve matches the Americans had all but won.
6.5 to 1.5 Europe after day one.
Rahm holed out 3 chips on the day.
They needed to put Trump on the team
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America was winless in 8 matches. All of their points came through halves.
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I was at Medinah in 2012, the scars still haven’t healed.
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With his sudden interest in biological lady sports, and his interest in golf, you'd think Tempo would be giving us shot-by-shot updates on the biological lady playing on the Men's Tour this weekend....
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I was at Medinah in 2012, the scars still haven’t healed.
I was there too! Got poison ivy on my ass and balls from sitting on something there... HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE
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I was there too! Got poison ivy on my ass and balls from sitting on something there... HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE
I shouldn't have laughed at this, especially since I'm very susceptible to poison ivy, but I did.
I'm probably a terrible person...
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I shouldn't have laughed at this, especially since I'm very susceptible to poison ivy, but I did.
I'm probably a terrible person...
nah it was funny, I definitely enjoyed telling others about my experience
fuckin sucked though for real
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nah it was funny, I definitely enjoyed telling others about my experience
fuckin sucked though for real
I don't doubt that. I've never had it down there, and hope I never do.
The last couple of times I had it, I had to get steroid pills and steroid cream to get rid of the shit. And I still had it for like a month.
And, I didn't even get ripped from the steroids either...
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I don't doubt that. I've never had it down there, and hope I never do.
The last couple of times I had it, I had to get steroid pills and steroid cream to get rid of the shit. And I still had it for like a month.
And, I didn't even get ripped from the steroids either...
The stuff also nukes me very bad. Out here we have Poison Oak, which is super prolific on hiking trails in the hills, which the dog of course likes to try to roll around in. One time I had to take the Prednisone which messed me up as well.
Since that awful episode where both arms basically looked like Jeff Goldblum in "The Fly", I discovered this stuff called "Zanfel". You have to figure out *right away* that you have the dreaded Oak/Ivy and use that stuff heavily, as directed. It actually works pretty well to stop it in its tracks, but if you don't get it as soon as it starts, the stuff gets deep enough into the skin that it takes forever and you probably have to go on the steroids.
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The stuff also nukes me very bad. Out here we have Poison Oak, which is super prolific on hiking trails in the hills, which the dog of course likes to try to roll around in. One time I had to take the Prednisone which messed me up as well.
Since that awful episode where both arms basically looked like Jeff Goldblum in "The Fly", I discovered this stuff called "Zanfel". You have to figure out *right away* that you have the dreaded Oak/Ivy and use that stuff heavily, as directed. It actually works pretty well to stop it in its tracks, but if you don't get it as soon as it starts, the stuff gets deep enough into the skin that it takes forever and you probably have to go on the steroids.
Poison Oak is so bad I always think there has to be some sort of military application, farm and harvest the stuff, distill the oil, and just air drop it from drones. Or if you are retreating in war, leave supplies that your enemy would try to take and cover it in the oil. If they don't know it's there, their whole body would be covered and it would be a huge suck on their medical teams and a big morale destroyer. If you put it on food and they got it internally it could be deadly.
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I was there too! Got poison ivy on my ass and balls from sitting on something there... HORRIBLE EXPERIENCE
You went naked?
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Lexi Thompson with back to back birdies and a very realistic chance to make the cut! -2 with about 6 holes to play.
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She’s -4 on the round.
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The stuff also nukes me very bad. Out here we have Poison Oak, which is super prolific on hiking trails in the hills, which the dog of course likes to try to roll around in. One time I had to take the Prednisone which messed me up as well.
Since that awful episode where both arms basically looked like Jeff Goldblum in "The Fly", I discovered this stuff called "Zanfel". You have to figure out *right away* that you have the dreaded Oak/Ivy and use that stuff heavily, as directed. It actually works pretty well to stop it in its tracks, but if you don't get it as soon as it starts, the stuff gets deep enough into the skin that it takes forever and you probably have to go on the steroids.
Sad to hear you didn’t die…
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You went naked?
He was getting a hummer from Judge Judy
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He was getting a hummer from Judge Judy
Quit projecting…
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Poison Oak is so bad I always think there has to be some sort of military application, farm and harvest the stuff, distill the oil, and just air drop it from drones. Or if you are retreating in war, leave supplies that your enemy would try to take and cover it in the oil. If they don't know it's there, their whole body would be covered and it would be a huge suck on their medical teams and a big morale destroyer. If you put it on food and they got it internally it could be deadly.
I got it on my right lower leg while hiking out there in August. I am basically immune to poison ivy, but this shit was absolutely awful. I was putting steroid cream on it multiple times a day and still wanting to itch it until I bled. It even hurt deep into the tissue under the skin. My skin still looks kinda fucked up in that spot two months later. Terrible stuff.
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Sounds like you’re not all that immune to poison Ivy to me.
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So, did the biological female make the cut?
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So, did the biological female make the cut?
No, two bogeys down the stretch cost her the cut.
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Actually, the cut jumped to -3. She’d have missed by 1 even without the two bogeys. Impressive showing though.
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Loyalty to the PGA Tour, which gave them the platform to be as successful as they are. Legacy. I guarandamntee you Jon Rahm stayed because he cares about legacy. Not money. Same with Tiger. If any player went hard after LIV on moral grounds I missed it. And I’m the biggest PGA fan here, probably by a wide margin.
This didn’t age well…
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39063974/sources-masters-champ-jon-rahm-leaving-pga-tour-liv-golf
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This didn’t age well…
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39063974/sources-masters-champ-jon-rahm-leaving-pga-tour-liv-golf
Had a feeling this post was coming. I knew Jon Rahm was the least trustworthy of the bunch. I fell for his lies, that’s on me.
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I always had to force myself to like Rahm, though he was surprisingly good when he did a segment or two as an analyst in a tournament a while back.
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1 Timothy 6:10
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I’m fairly certain he wouldn’t have done it had they not allowed LIV players to play in the majors. He’s exempt for the next 4 years and in his prime. I’m guessing he feels he’s safe to play in the majors the next 15 years.
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Thought they were merging so what's the deal here?
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It’s kind of odd in this day and age to expect athletes/celebrities to sacrifice huge amounts of money to make some kind of political/moral stand. We want these guys to be heroes, but in reality they're just out there trying to make as much money in the very narrow window in which they command that kind of coin.
If it makes you feel any better Tempo, think of all the money they’re taking from the Saudis and bringing back to the US economy. Helps make up for all the taxpayer money we spend to fight proxy wars all over the globe.
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😂
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39234251/rory-mcilroy-says-was-too-judgmental-liv-defectors
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😂
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39234251/rory-mcilroy-says-was-too-judgmental-liv-defectors
Anyone claiming any pro golfer has principles is a fool.
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Anyone claiming any pro golfer has principles is a fool.
I can think of one…
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https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/39241063/phil-mickelson-urges-fans-not-pile-rory-mcilroy-liv-scorn
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The course played a bit too easy because of excessive rain, but a really good PGA Championship this week. Strong leaderboard. Xander gets the much deserved first major. LIV with another tough showing. Only top 10 from them was from Bryson. I just don’t think LIV plays enough, or is competitive enough to keep these guys as sharp as they need to be.
Rahm failed to even make the cut, and Taylor Gooch “the best iron player in the world” according to LIV fans (how could you even have a major without Gooch?!) was very lucky to make the cut on the number. Not sure how he finished, but as of yesterday he was losing to to club pros.
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Rahm is struggle-bussing big time since going to LIV. He looks miserable.
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Rahm is struggle-bussing big time since going to LIV. He looks miserable.
crying all the way to the bank
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Watched it with the in-laws this afternoon, good stuff. Been on a bit of a hiatus from golf with the kids being in activities and more work responsibility but have recommitted to playing more this year. Got myself a new set of sticks this March and have only played twice and been to range 3-4 times. Hoping to really hit it hard starting this week.
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crying all the way to the bank
True, but legacy also matters to great athletes. And it definitely matters to Rahm.
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Watched it with the in-laws this afternoon, good stuff. Been on a bit of a hiatus from golf with the kids being in activities and more work responsibility but have recommitted to playing more this year. Got myself a new set of sticks this March and have only played twice and been to range 3-4 times. Hoping to really hit it hard starting this week.
What kind of clubs did you get?
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Two years ago or so I got rid of my old Miura’s for a set of gently used Titleist T100S off GolfWRX but the long irons were a little demanding for me. So I went and got fitted this winter and got a combo set of T200 long irons and T150 mid and short 7-G) irons with a Vokey 54 SW. Got rid of my Axis1 Rose putter and got a Scotty Newport. Kept my old hybrid and 3W because they’re just automatic for me. Did get rid of my 10+ year old driver and got a used Titleist TSR3 off WRX with the Fujikura Ventura shaft that’s been dominating the tour the past few years. Had one range session with it and made some adjustments then absolutely murdered it when I played last Saturday on a course I’m familiar with my normal driver distances. Had it on a string all day which was fun as driving tends to be the least consistent part of my game. Pic was before the putter came in.
(https://i.ibb.co/HqPkVWt/IMG-4800.jpg) (https://ibb.co/9W4CNFb)
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Nice, I didn’t know Axel Rose made a putter! JK. Nice looking bag you have there. I had a Scotty Cameron Newport years ago. I put it away wet and it rusted out. Then I went all in on the rusting out and I think I even soaked it in coca-cola IIRC. My clubs are all old, but were top of the line stuff in 2004 when I last played regularly at all. You can just about buy the latest driver today for the same price in 2004. I remember paying $500-600 for my Titleist 983K. I have Mizuno irons (the best feel IMO), and my White Hot #8 is the best putter I’ve ever had. Have a classic Wilson 8802 as well. Cleveland wedges. I think I still have a Vokey as well. I’d like to get back into playing, but right now I mostly watch on TV and work with my son at the range. He hits 90 balls to every 10 I hit.
Nice call on getting fitted. Makes a difference. You’ve got a nice looking set.
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I have a nice Titleist 3W as well, but I’ve always hated it. I hook the hell out of it. When I caught it right, it was great, but I couldn’t trust it at all. Made me wonder if I unknowingly bought clubs with hook biases.
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My driver I could smoke.
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Here’s a tip. I know a fair bit about the golf swing (I was obsessed with the game, once wanted to become a PGA teaching pro, and used to take lessons from a guy who is a lifetime Golf Magazine top 100 teacher in America. He was hand chosen by the legendary Harvey Penick (Ben Crenshaw, Tom Kite Coach, written famous instruction booklets) to run his academy.
Anywhoo, this drill IMO is the single best drill you can do to help your golf swing. I wish I’d gotten locked into this drill when I was a younger man, I think I’d have been a more consistent player. I had a long swing so I had to have my timing down or I’d struggle. I could go on insane hot streaks and then follow it up with two or three miserable holes. I once went -5 for a 6 hole stretch(and missed an eagle putt by two inches) and the next three holes I think I was 6 or 7 over par. Do this drill, it’s amazing. I’m teaching it to my kid now. 5-10 minutes a day will do wonders IMO.
https://www.google.com/gasearch?q=split%20grip%20drill%20golf&tbm=&source=sh/x/gs/m2/5#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:39c303f3,vid:ZUJ6jcna8c0,st:0
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Even though I’m getting old I can still move the ball. After barely swinging in 20 years I got a bay that tracked ball speed and whatnot last year and was still hitting 165 ball speed with range balls. 167ish is tour average. Outside of a couple of par 3 courses with my kid, I haven’t played in years. Curious to see what I can still (and can’t) do.
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Good stuff tempo, will check out the drill. My kids love the range too. Usually if I have a big left miss with a wood it’s due to a shaft that’s too soft for me. I’m about the same ball speed as you last I checked and I play pretty stout shafts. Although I’m more of a hitter than a swinger type.
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it’s due to a shaft that’s too soft for me.
Where is Jobu when you need him?
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I played with fairly stiff shafts S300 in my irons back in the day (which means that’s what’s still in my clubs). I haven’t clocked my clubhead speed in a long time, but I was about 115 with the driver 20-22 years ago. I’m probably not as fast today but still fast enough.
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I’d love to test the difference between a new driver and my driver from 2003.
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Assuming the same club length of 45” or so, I’d imagine shots out of the screws wouldn’t be a huge difference, but the forgiveness difference for misses would be pretty massive I’d think. Drivers made huge leaps in the mid to late 2000s with 460cc heads, max MOI numbers, carbon crowns, variable face thickness,better graphite shafts, adjustability, etc. Now in 2024 it is down to very very incremental levels of improvement at this point. Basically just tweaking looks and visible technology to keep people upgrading.
There are some guys on YouTube that hit old vs new clubs and it’s pretty interesting. My 10 year old driver was a 388cc Japanese forged titanium driver. Beautiful club with amazing sound and feel, but the Titleist feels like cheating. I can still tell exactly where I’m hitting it on the face but it just goes like hell no matter where I hit it. So I can tell when I miss center, but my golf buddies can’t.😬
I am also a Mizuno fan, as you can tell, I have a Mizuno bag. Just no Mizuno clubs in it right now. I was really tempted by their new MP releases and their new raw wedges are so sexy, but I just hit the Titleist better. They are forged and feel good, but not Mizuno good. They have a ton of tungsten in them down low and I can get away with my thin miss better as a result. Kind of a trade off.
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Assuming the same club length of 45” or so, I’d imagine shots out of the screws wouldn’t be a huge difference, but the forgiveness difference for misses would be pretty massive I’d think. Drivers made huge leaps in the mid to late 2000s with 460cc heads, max MOI numbers, carbon crowns, variable face thickness,better graphite shafts, adjustability, etc. Now in 2024 it is down to very very incremental levels of improvement at this point. Basically just tweaking looks and visible technology to keep people upgrading.
There are some guys on YouTube that hit old vs new clubs and it’s pretty interesting. My 10 year old driver was a 388cc Japanese forged titanium driver. Beautiful club with amazing sound and feel, but the Titleist feels like cheating. I can still tell exactly where I’m hitting it on the face but it just goes like hell no matter where I hit it. So I can tell when I miss center, but my golf buddies can’t.😬
I am also a Mizuno fan, as you can tell, I have a Mizuno bag. Just no Mizuno clubs in it right now. I was really tempted by their new MP releases and their new raw wedges are so sexy, but I just hit the Titleist better. They are forged and feel good, but not Mizuno good. They have a ton of tungsten in them down low and I can get away with my thin miss better as a result. Kind of a trade off.
You guys gotta hook me up. Retirement soon, need moar hobbies.
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According to ThePAMan Scottie Scheffler should have been shot for this. Well this and being a Christian from Dallas, which makes him equivalent to Jan 6 scum. Outlandish take even for a guy known for outlandish takes.
https://x.com/golf_com/status/1793686085736022518?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Hilarious.
https://x.com/kylerw56/status/1791468900447564272?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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According to ThePAMan Scottie Scheffler should have been shot for this. Well this and being a Christian from Dallas, which makes him equivalent to Jan 6 scum. Outlandish take even for a guy known for outlandish takes.
https://x.com/golf_com/status/1793686085736022518?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
They would have shot Calvin Peete in that scenario. Maybe even Vijay Singh. Fair is fair.
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The headline ....
'Total team effort' helps Illini golf dominate stroke play, earn No. 1 seed for NCAA Championships match play
Illinois won stroke play by 16 strokes over the field
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/article/illinois-fighting-illini-mens-golf-ncaa-championship-match-play-no-1-seed-232235108/
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Time to win a natty
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Charges against Scheffler dropped, as they should be. LMPD waving the white flag and stipulating that no further action be taken by either side (they knew they could get heftily sued).
https://x.com/terrymeiners/status/1795823838900686933?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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The police report was obviously falsified. Video evidence gives no indication an officer was “dragged” for any length of time, let alone 30 feet.
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Rich white men for the win, again.
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Rich white men for the win, again.
Hard to believe Tempo supports that!
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So many people out there getting away with making left turns, it’s sickening! Also, the police lied on the arrest report.
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Hard to believe Tempo supports that!
Tempo hates cops more than he hates rich white men. Comes from his days as an MP, apparently.
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I just think that people shouldn’t be charged with felonies for making left turns when it’s pretty clear the situation was likely confusing and the arrest report was clearly wildly fabricated.
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6 or 7 years ago I was confused on what a police officer was telling me to do on marathon day and made a turn that displeased them. Glad I wasn’t shot at or handed a felony charge. I was yelled at, though. Which is appropriate enough. A felony charge would have seemed a bit excessive.
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PAMan wants Scheffler charged because he’s a southern Christian man who is probably conservative (a Trumper as he’s called him). I wouldn’t know for sure, I can’t recall ever hearing Scottie talk about politics and I follow the PGA Tour very closely.
I’d bet good money that the arresting cop who clearly lied on the police report, and didn’t have his body cam on like he’s supposed to is a much more fervent Trump supporter than Scottie Scheffler is.
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There’s a reason the LMPD dropped the charges with the agreement no further action would be taken by either side…you’d think a lawyer would pick up on that.
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According to ThePAMan LMPD should have shot him.
(https://i.postimg.cc/T19qGCHC/IMG-7624.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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6 or 7 years ago I was confused on what a police officer was telling me to do on marathon day and made a turn that displeased them. Glad I wasn’t shot at or handed a felony charge. I was yelled at, though. Which is appropriate enough. A felony charge would have seemed a bit excessive.
You are a white dude who likes golf.
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According to ThePAMan LMPD should have shot him.
(https://i.postimg.cc/T19qGCHC/IMG-7624.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Always good to be a rich, white, Christian, Trumper who is a golfer able to buy your way out of trouble.
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According to ThePAMan LMPD should have shot him.
(https://i.postimg.cc/T19qGCHC/IMG-7624.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
You realize that the start of the incident was not caught on video, right?
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You realize that the start of the incident was not caught on video, right?
If the police officer had had his body cam like he’s supposed to it would’ve been
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Again, there are reasons LMPD decided to drop the charges and it’s not because he’s a rich white dude
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If the police officer had had his body cam like he’s supposed to it would’ve been
Maybe he was busy getting almost run over to do that?
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Maybe he was busy getting almost run over to do that?
Lame. Did you see the said officer wrote a letter in which he essentially asks Scottie “We good, right bro?”
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Funny PAMan condemns the Christian golfer who’s never said a political word that I’m aware of, but worships the lying officer who more than likely fervently supports Trump. Can’t make this irony up.
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Always good to be a rich, white, Christian, Trumper who is a golfer able to buy your way out of trouble.
The only thing he bought was a lawyer. Are you anti-lawyer now?
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Lame. Did you see the said officer wrote a letter in which he essentially asks Scottie “We good, right bro?”
After the pressure was applied by higher ups?
Always good to be a white rich guy. As Biden said the other day, imagine what the conversation would be if it were all Black people storming the Capitol on Jan 6th.....
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After the pressure was applied by higher ups?
Wonder why…
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Wonder why…
Rich white guy buys his way out of trouble for $500, Alex?
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After the pressure was applied by higher ups?
Always good to be a white rich guy. As Biden said the other day, imagine what the conversation would be if it were all Black people storming the Capitol on Jan 6th.....
That's next year...
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That's next year...
Already looking forward to it when the progressives withhold their votes for Biden....that and Trump then deporting all the terrorist supporters as he claims he will do. Good luck to Tempo driving an Uber in Gaza!
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Already looking forward to it when the progressives withhold their votes for Biden....that and Trump then deporting all the terrorist supporters as he claims he will do. Good luck to Tempo driving an Uber in Gaza!
Nvidia comprises 6.5% of the S&P 500. Microsoft and Apple are 7 and 8 percent. Maybe Trump will throw 21.5% of the US economy into jail for being suppressives (in 2020, Nvidia employees writ large contributed 75 bucks to Trump). That will show them.
Tempo won't be driving an Uber in Gaza because the app will crash when Trump rounds up their dev team.
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Nvidia comprises 6.5% of the S&P 500. Microsoft and Apple are 7 and 8 percent. Maybe Trump will throw 21.5% of the US economy into jail for being suppressives (in 2020, Nvidia employees writ large contributed 75 bucks to Trump). That will show them.
Tempo won't be driving an Uber in Gaza because the app will crash when Trump rounds up their dev team.
The Silicon Valley Oligarchs will just have an excuse to find Indians willing to do the work far cheaper.
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I don’t think the folks coming across the border in droves are app developers
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I don’t think the folks coming across the border in droves are app developers
They will work from India....
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The Silicon Valley Oligarchs will just have an excuse to find Indians willing to do the work far cheaper.
At this point and time, workers in Bangalore - if they are any good - aren't really cheaper. But stick to your racist stereotype!
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I don’t think the folks coming across the border in droves are app developers
They are the drivers!
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Rich white guy buys his way out of trouble for $500, Alex?
Who did he pay off? Hiring a lawyer is now “buying your way out of trouble?” Is that what you think of lawyers?
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Who did he pay off? Hiring a lawyer is now “buying your way out of trouble?” Is that what you think of lawyers?
Donation to a PAC here, donation threre....
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Donation to a PAC here, donation threre....
Objection. Pure speculation, your honor.
More likely they didn’t want to get sued for millions.
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Objection. Pure speculation, your honor.
More likely they didn’t want to get sued for millions.
Lot of immunity hurdles aren't there?
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Trump should have been a pro golfer
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You’re leaning into this bit even harder than usual.
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Lot of immunity hurdles aren't there?
Not sure what you mean here.
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Not sure what you mean here.
Cops have some immunity under the law, don't they?
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Cops have some immunity under the law, don't they?
They have some degree of qualified immunity. That doesn’t mean the LMPD couldn’t have been successfully sued.
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They have some degree of qualified immunity. That doesn’t mean the LMPD couldn’t have been successfully sued.
It also doesn't mean it would be easy to sue them when you don't follow instructions as cops are scraping a dead body off the ground.
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I have to admit to running out of angles to try and needle you on about this, Tempo.
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It also doesn't mean it would be easy to sue them when you don't follow instructions as cops are scraping a dead body off the ground.
We don’t know what happened because the police officer didn’t have his body cam on like he’s supposed to.
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https://x.com/zitidoggsgolf/status/1796291807669796920?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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We don’t know what happened because the police officer didn’t have his body cam on like he’s supposed to.
Was he supposed to have it on while he was directing traffic as they scrapped up a dead person? I do not know. Do you? I understand that he should have turned it on when the Golfer ignored instructions and the incident occurred. I could also see that not being the first thing to think of when you are almost getting run over.
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It’s supposed to be on at all times while
he’s on duty. Keep in mind this is an officer who’s been reprimanded multiple times.
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If he was allowed to pick and choose when to turn on the body cam there would be very little point in wearing it.
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It’s supposed to be on at all times while
he’s on duty. Keep in mind this is an officer who’s been reprimanded multiple times.
Interesting.
Point to me an officer who has never been reprimanded and I will point to you one who isn't doing his or her job!
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Hot take. “Doing his job” alright.
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5cHz3W3/IMG-7644.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Hot take. “Doing his job” alright.
(https://i.postimg.cc/P5cHz3W3/IMG-7644.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Wow. It is just as if he beat someone with his baton!
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https://www.wdbj7.com/2024/05/30/officer-scottie-scheffler-case-thanks-golfer-takes-aim-his-attorney-statement/?outputType=amp
Sounds like The Rich White Golfer made some incriminating statements.... Hmmmm
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The headline ....
'Total team effort' helps Illini golf dominate stroke play, earn No. 1 seed for NCAA Championships match play
Illinois won stroke play by 16 strokes over the field
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/article/illinois-fighting-illini-mens-golf-ncaa-championship-match-play-no-1-seed-232235108/
Time to win a natty
Sent home til next year by #8 Ga Tech on day 1, 3-1.
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Yeah, I know. 😔
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We ALL KNOW the police would NEVER EVER fabricate a police report…cop assaults college professor, charges her with battery. Pieces of shit.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2024/04/25/emory-university-pro-palestinian-protest-police-digvid.cnn
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https://sg.news.yahoo.com/cop-slammed-emory-professor-head-195707606.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMoNcXumM4HdNSxcQG1YTTczgGkEpQwH-G7M4kM8B6JsTg9dwhjRwpMwiBWGizsZKP5nmpxoUmNUNpflBMg8MuG70Rq8ar9Ce_SsVLtxnGjbH8f8GpX1aD5gFCCRghDqn5zmylU2HtjYVElP3Vek2hoRe322tsMFMBTYSUgd0Sos
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We know the Rich White Golfer admitted not following instructions and apologized.
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What is with PAMan’s fixation on Rich White Golfers?
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What is with PAMan’s fixation on Rich White Golfers?
Their evading of justice.
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Their evading of justice.
Yeah, that’s it.
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Yeah, that’s it.
As Mn says, "No one is above the law."
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As Mn says, "No one is above the law."
A single police officer is not “The Law.”
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I’d say there’s a 500% chance the police officer is more pro-Trump than Scottie Scheffler. Only one of the reasons your take on this is so hilarious.
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I’d say there’s a 500% chance the police officer is more pro-Trump than Scottie Scheffler. Only one of the reasons your take on this is so hilarious.
C'mon, we all know the Bible Thumpers support Trump (despite the fact he actually embodies what they preach against).
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C'mon, we all know the Bible Thumpers support Trump (despite the fact he actually embodies what they preach against).
You presume a lot, counselor.
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Easy to see why PAMan hates Scottie Scheffler so much.
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/03/12/sport/scottie-scheffler-grandma-players-championship-spt-intl
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Totally unlikable!
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2024/mar/20/scheffler-carries-a-big-game-small-ego/
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You presume a lot, counselor.
I do in this regard. You are really going to say they don't?
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I do in this regard. You are really going to say they don't?
I’m sure there’s no shortage of “Bible thumpers” that support Trump. Assuming all of them are fervent Trumpers is ridiculous. Insinuating they should shot for it even moreso.
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Also, outside of Scottie proclaiming his faith, I can’t recall any specific instances of him “Bible thumping.”
And I watch PGA golf and The Golf Channel in large quantities. Religiously, you might say.
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Also, outside of Scottie proclaiming his faith, I can’t recall any specific instances of him “Bible thumping.”
And I watch PGA golf and The Golf Channel in large quantities. Religiously, you might say.
We can tell. No regard for a dead guy being scrapped off the ground or first responders seeking to avoid having to be scrapped off the ground because all important golfers with a tee time only care about themselves.
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We can tell. No regard for a dead guy being scrapped off the ground or first responders seeking to avoid having to be scrapped off the ground because all important golfers with a tee time only care about themselves.
You’re driving this narrative harder than Nicolas Cage drove stolen cars in Gone in 60 Seconds.
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DOH!!!
https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/attorney-criticizes-lmpd-handling-scottie-scheffler-case-louisville-kentucky/417-7f88eeb3-8dd6-40fc-b135-e82e11c0f0da
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I would have cut and pasted the most interesting parts of the above article, but I’d have to cut and paste the whole thing.
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You’re driving this narrative harder than Nicolas Cage drove stolen cars in Gone in 60 Seconds.
Didn't bother watching those Nick Cage films.
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DOH!!!
https://www.whas11.com/article/news/local/attorney-criticizes-lmpd-handling-scottie-scheffler-case-louisville-kentucky/417-7f88eeb3-8dd6-40fc-b135-e82e11c0f0da
Like when the civil rights leader discussed the inequities of the Rich White Trumper Bible Thumper getting off scott free?
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Like when the civil rights leader discussed the inequities of the Rich White Trumper Bible Thumper getting off scott free?
For making a left turn? Society is falling apart!
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Didn't bother watching those Nick Cage films.
Me either, but I saw the trailer.
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For making a left turn? Society is falling apart!
If you are a first responder who gets hit because of some moron who needs to make a tee time, you may think so. It is why the Illinois legislature mandates drivers go to the other lane for sirens and lights....
https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-crime-police-officer-injured-hit-by-car-homan-square/14424376/
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-68125833
A couple of examples.
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Me either, but I saw the trailer.
I am skeptical of this claim....
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No one got hit.
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No one got hit.
Thankfully. Are you suggesting violators should only be prosecuted if they hit someone?
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Thankfully. Are you suggesting violators should only be prosecuted if they hit someone?
I’m suggesting one shouldn’t get charged with a felony for made up/unproven police reports.
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You want to hand him a $500 fine, fine.
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You want to hand him a $500 fine, fine.
That'll show him!
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I’m suggesting one shouldn’t get charged with a felony for made up/unproven police reports.
Even the ones where the guy admits ignoring the instructions because he has a tee time?
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That'll show him!
Yeah, so hit him with a felony (that’ll show him)!
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Even the ones where the guy admits ignoring the instructions because he has a tee time?
I don’t think he did that.
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Pull up the admission “that he ignored instructions.” I’ll wait.
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Yeah, so hit him with a felony (that’ll show him)!
Lock him up! Lock him up with Trump!
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Lock him up! Lock him up with Trump!
Yeah, their crimes are comparable.
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Yeah, their crimes are comparable.
One put first responders in harm's way. The other didn't.
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One put first responders in harm's way. The other didn't.
You cry a lot about shit that didn’t happen.
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You cry a lot about shit that didn’t happen.
You love yourself some lawbreaking golfers, don't you?
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/golf/15-year-old-to-make-pga-tour-debut-after-success-on-korn-ferry-tour/ar-BB1nzDui
Hopefully this kid is a safer driver than some of the other PGA golfers.
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You love yourself some lawbreaking golfers, don't you?
There’s no proof he broke any laws. Just the word of a rogue cop. If he was doing his job properly there would have been video evidence. There’s a reason the charges were dropped. This doesn’t sound like a guy who “admitted guilt.”
https://www.golfdigest.com/story/scottie-scheffler-louisville-police-arrest-charges/amp
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Scheffler was proceeding as directed by OTHER police officers, but one rogue cop clearly felt disrespected and fabricated an arrest report (in a situation where the LMPD admitted he didn’t handle properly).
(https://i.postimg.cc/y85VM32J/IMG-7665.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JsNVJ0rm)
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Sure he was....
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Sure he was....
Here’s something for you. You can have it. Just take it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/rm7q0z50/IMG-7678.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZdK8qSp)
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Here’s something for you. You can have it. Just take it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/rm7q0z50/IMG-7678.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/tZdK8qSp)
It is missing the blue W.
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So I picked the wrong 3% owned $6600 Canadian named Adam (chose Schenk over Hadwin), and as of right now with 8 holes to go it’s costing me $200,000. No joke
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I’d be in 1st somewhat comfortably had I chose the right 3% owned $6600 Canadian Adam.
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So yeah, had I chosen the right Canadian Adam also priced at $6600 I’d have finished tied for 1st and won 117k lol FML. It was a two way tie for first (I’d have been 3).
On the the U.S. Open
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Seeing as how Adam Schenk was a cheap guy in my lineup, he was the last player I picked. Since I had limited salary I’m sure I was down to a pool of 4-6 players I’d have found acceptable. Which means at the time I was completing that lineup I had as much as a 1 in 4 chance of building a 117k lineup. SMH
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I have invested in Tempo's US Open gambling. I have already spent my half of the $1m! C'mon Tempo! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
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I have invested in Tempo's US Open gambling. I have already spent my half of the $1m! C'mon Tempo! Baby needs a new pair of shoes!
Tired: Roaring Kitty
Wired: Tempo!
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Unbelievable!
https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/40352235/francesco-molinari-makes-us-open-cut-hole-one
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Tired: Roaring Kitty
Wired: Tempo!
We didn't win the $1m. Did not lose the whole investment though.
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Rory is a little bitch…
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Is Justin Timberlake now a pro golfer too?
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U of I product Jackson Buchanan is currently tied in the round of 16 in the U.S. Amateur. It’s on Golf Channel right now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVczHs2V/IMG-8461.png) (https://postimg.cc/xcgxqSpw)
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U of I product Jackson Buchanan is currently tied in the round of 16 in the U.S. Amateur. It’s on Golf Channel right now.
(https://i.postimg.cc/dVczHs2V/IMG-8461.png) (https://postimg.cc/xcgxqSpw)
Let's go, Jackie!
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Well played.
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Buchanan in the semi-final. Down 1 hole with 9 to go.
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Buchanan playing against an Iowa Hawkeye! Down 2 thru 11. Has some work to do. Buchanan with a couple mental errors.
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I was -1 going into the last hole yesterday at a local city course, playing for money. Bogeyed the last (par 3) to finish even. Missed the green pin high and flubbed my pitch, leaving me with an up and down to save par for the round. Chipped to 4’ and hit a knee knocker to seal it. Best round I’ve ever played but still pissed I didn’t break par 🤣
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Nicely done.
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Buchanan makes a great putt for birdie and the Iowa kid matched him. Down 1 with I think 3 holes to go. Also watching some Fed Ex Cup as well.
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Buchanan hits one in the drink. Not looking good. Would hate to lose to an Iowa Hawkeye.
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Buchanan makes birdie. Down 1 with 1 hole to play.
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Buchanan looks headed for a loss. In the fairway bunker, Iowa kid in the fairway.
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It’s over. Buchanan struggles out of bunker and Iowa kid stiffs one from 181.
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Kind of funny. Grandma is a good sport!
https://x.com/nuclrgolf/status/1837156914091659491?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Have gotten to be decent friends with a couple in the neighborhood. A few months ago I had an Illini hoodie on and she mentioned when she was in college she dated a guy that went to UI and had made the trip back and forth many times. Didn’t think much of it at the time other than the novelty of it.
We all went out together last weekend after we clobbered Michigan and I was wearing the expensive Illini 1/4 zip I bought back when we were still in our Golden Era, so she asked if I’d been back to Champaign lately. Mentioned I was back that way a couple weeks ago, blah blah blah. Got to talking about sports and stuff and turns out the guy she had dated was none other than Illini golf great Dylan Meyer.
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Have gotten to be decent friends with a couple in the neighborhood. A few months ago I had an Illini hoodie on and she mentioned when she was in college she dated a guy that went to UI and had made the trip back and forth many times. Didn’t think much of it at the time other than the novelty of it.
We all went out together last weekend after we clobbered Michigan and I was wearing the expensive Illini 1/4 zip I bought back when we were still in our Golden Era, so she asked if I’d been back to Champaign lately. Mentioned I was back that way a couple weeks ago, blah blah blah. Got to talking about sports and stuff and turns out the guy she had dated was none other than Illini golf great Dylan Meyer.
so you're saying that both she, and your wife, had aspirations of greatness and had to settle for less
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Brian Campbell, former Illini player and very very obscure (fringe) PGA Tour player won The Mexico Open a couple weeks ago. Has played decent since. The Mexico Open is a “slapdick” event, but still a PGA Tour event. Life changing moment for him. Even a lot of people who follow golf closely hadn’t heard of him or barely knew who he was.
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32 years old, so he was barely hanging onto a career.
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Made a good run at $50,000 today. 15th place out of 7,058 lineups. I only had one entry, some guys have up to 150. With slightly better luck could have taken 1st. My guys obviously played well but left a decent amount of points on the table. If Harry Hall putts like he usually does I probably win. 1st “only” won 30k because there was a 1st place tie.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0y1481zb/IMG-1475.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/SJVdr57h)
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I was .10 out of 14th which would have won me an extra $100 lol
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Nice work Tempo
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg-74RH3BSE
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This is pretty funny because the wives of all the PGA golfers are pretty much interchangeable blondes..
https://www.themirror.com/sport/golf/bryson-dechambeau-girlfriend-lilia-schneider-1150205
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Brian Campbell, former Illini and shortest hitter on the PGA Tour just made a 2nd consecutive birdie to take the lead on the back nine at the John Deere Classic.
Barely clinging to a PGA Tour career a few months ago Campbell could be on the verge of claiming his 2nd win this year, when he (again the shortest hitter on Tour) outdueled last week’s winner Aldrich Potgeiter (the longest hitter in high level professional golf) in a playoff.
I-L-L!
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Huge error on 15th tee results in double bogey for Campbell. Had to take penalty for errant tee shot. Surrenders 1 shot lead. Not out of it, but you have to keep it in play when you’re a short-knocker. He was in control of the tourney and gave it up. Not out of it, but probably needs to go -2 last 4 to get into a playoff or win.
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Lipped out 10 foot bogey putt to stay tied for 1st.
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Emiliano Grillo bogeys to create a 3 way tie. Campbell, Grillo, and Kevin Roy (who’s in the clubhouse). Par 5 17th coming up for Campbell. Still a few guys behind him with a chance, but no one making a move as of now.
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Campbell a 51%-33% favorite over Grillo to win. Birdied 17, birdie putt on 18.
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Just misses 26 footer that probably would have iced it.
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Grillo and Campbell tied at -18 in the clubhouse. David Lipsky eagles 17th to make it a 3 way tie. Birdie wins.
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Grillo lipped out a bomb on 18 to win. Lipsky hooks it off the tee on 18, par will be a good score now.
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Campbell and Grillo headed to sudden death playoff.
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Campbell in the fairway. Grillo right of the trees! I-L-L!
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193 to 16 feet for birdie for Campbell. Grillo with tough up and down for par. Advantage Campbell!
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After struggling 8 years to get his PGA Tour card back, Brian Campbell is a two-time winner on the PGA Tour.
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Odds on Campbell winning twice this year would have been astronomical.
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Hell yeah ILL
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He won the Mexico Open at 200-1 and the John Deere at 300-1.
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https://youtu.be/caLYA6fLOyg?si=tCdYFtBkDbLD4ttR
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https://youtu.be/caLYA6fLOyg?si=tCdYFtBkDbLD4ttR
Seen that one before. It’s a good bit.
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I've only golfed one this year
I think I lost the love for it
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It’ll return!
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Apparently a ton of cameos in the new Happy Gilmour. Nicklaus, Faldo, Couples, Trevino, and a bunch of current stars. Apparently the plotline sounds like a LIV golf narrative (competing tour).
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Apparently a ton of cameos in the new Happy Gilmour. Nicklaus, Faldo, Couples, Trevino, and a bunch of current stars. Apparently the plotline sounds like a LIV golf narrative (competing tour).
Uh, spoiler alert?
So you missed Nancy Lopez' cameo....
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Uh, spoiler alert?
So you missed Nancy Lopez' cameo....
About 25 years ago I was standing in line getting something to eat at an LPGA tournament and noticed Nancy Lopez standing next to me.
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Riveting
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Riveting
More than I was aiming for! Thanks!
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Word on the street is that LIV might cease to exist as soon as tomorrow. They have an event that is supposed to start tomorrow. Apparently players are on the practice grounds wondering if they will play tomorrow.
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Word on the street is that LIV might cease to exist as soon as tomorrow. They have an event that is supposed to start tomorrow. Apparently players are on the practice grounds wondering if they will play tomorrow.
WTF? The Saudis can afford this. It is just pocket change for them.
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True
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But at some point, they have to realize there’s nothing in it for them
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WTF? The Saudis can afford this. It is just pocket change for them.
No need. They have Trump in their pocket already.
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To use the old Hollywood saw, No one knows anything. But a tapped-in player agent just texted me, “Have heard MBS wants to use the war as Force Majeure to pull the plug.”
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But at some point, they have to realize there’s nothing in it for them
Doesn't matter. It is chump change for them! Maybe they can do without a yacht or one of the soccer teams in their league.
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Yeah maybe.
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Yeah maybe.
The FlailingNYTimes says they are cutting the cord. You can thank Trump....if he does not start the war, the Saudi are not having to spend money rebuilding hotels and refineries.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/15/world/middleeast/saudi-soverign-fund-liv-golf.html?unlocked_article_code=1.bFA.Yv0K.Qp-XJzWBu6wC&smid=url-share
Saudi Fund to Back Away From LIV Golf Under Mounting Financial Pressures
Saudi Arabia’s sovereign wealth fund is on the verge of announcing it will withdraw financial support from LIV Golf, the upstart golf circuit it launched four years ago to compete with the PGA Tour, a person familiar with the matter said Wednesday.
The Saudi league splashed into professional golf in 2022, attracting some of the sport’s biggest stars with contracts that exceeded — by tens of millions of dollars — their career earnings with more established circuits like the American-run PGA Tour.
The move comes as Saudi Arabia’s $1 trillion sovereign wealth fund announced a new five-year strategy on Wednesday, with the fund’s governor saying it would slow down some of its biggest projects as it focuses on “increasing the efficiency of investments.”
Saudi officials have said that the oil-rich kingdom is re-evaluating its priorities amid mounting financial pressures, including the cost of its pledges to host the World Expo in 2030 and the men’s soccer World Cup in 2034.
On Wednesday, Sergio Garcia, a LIV player who won the Masters Tournament in 2017, suggested the league’s athletes were in the dark about its fate, even as speculation swirled online about its future.
Mr. Garcia said the wealth fund’s governor, Yasir al-Rumayyan, had assured players that LIV was part of a broader, long-term effort. “Honestly, we haven’t heard anything other than what Yasir told us at the beginning of the year,” Mr. Garcia said at a news conference in Mexico on the eve of a LIV tournament there.
“Honestly, you know how these rumors are,” Mr. Garcia said. “There are always a lot of them. And I can’t tell you anything more than what we already know.”
The kingdom’s wealth fund did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
The fund’s head, Mr. al-Rumayyan, said that the new strategy represents a “natural progression” of the fund’s path as it enters its second decade as a global investment powerhouse. The fund’s board had asked executives to look through their plans with an eye for “what’s must-have, and what’s good to have,” he said.
“There needed to be a reconsideration of the timing of some investments,” Mr. al-Rumayyan said, speaking during a news conference in Riyadh, the kingdom’s capital.
The fund, called the Public Investment Fund, has become a major source of capital around the world in recent years, with eye-catching investments in Uber, the Japanese conglomerate SoftBank and sports franchises like the English Premier League soccer team Newcastle United. It has poured money into the breakaway golf league and invested at least $2 billion in a fund run by Jared Kushner, President Trump’s son-in-law.
The fund was also a key locus of power for Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman as he rose to become de facto ruler of Saudi Arabia. In one of his first moves after his father was appointed king in 2015, the then 29-year-old prince began to turn the fund — at the time a staid domestic entity — into a sovereign wealth vehicle capable of making momentous international bets.
In the early years of his rise, the prince led both Saudi Arabia and the sovereign fund on high-risk undertakings. The fund invested heavily in Magic Leap — an augmented reality company that has since floundered — and it made a major investment in Lucid, an American electric vehicle company.
In 2017, Masayoshi Son, the chief executive of SoftBank, declared that he had raised “$1 billion per minute” during a conversation with Prince Mohammed, for a total of $45 billion. The fund that money was invested into proved to be highly volatile, although it has made up for its staggering losses in recent years.
The assets managed by the PIF grew enormously during its first decade — up from an initial $150 billion. But much of that growth came through moving other state-owned assets under the fund’s umbrella, centralizing the kingdom’s wealth.
Cloaked in vague corporate language and short on details, the fund’s new, five-year strategy nonetheless reflects an important shift in Saudi Arabia’s trajectory under Prince Mohammed, now 40.
In his early years, the prince compared himself to technology “disrupters” like Steve Jobs and Mark Zuckerberg, who pledged to “move fast and break things.” He spearheaded a disastrous military intervention in Yemen and oversaw an episode in which the Lebanese prime minister, Saad Hariri, was effectively held hostage in Riyadh and pressured to resign. In 2018, the killing of Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi by government agents in Istanbul sparked global outcry.
But in recent years, the prince has refashioned himself as a mediator and diplomat, while pulling back on some of the flashiest elements of his plans to overhaul Saudi Arabia’s oil-dependent economy.
The shift in the sovereign fund’s strategy will have a particularly noticeable effect on Neom, the science fiction-inspired region that the prince had planned to build along the kingdom’s Red Sea coast. There, officials had been working on plans that included a mountain ski resort and a linear metropolis composed entirely of two parallel skyscrapers. But many of those projects have since been scaled back or delayed as Neom — the sovereign fund’s largest project by far — ran over costs.
Neom is now focused on “controlled and gradual execution,” with its various projects rescheduled and prioritized according to their “commercial feasibility,” Mr. al-Rumayyan said. The first piece of Neom to be delivered will be an industrial city called Oxagon with a port and renewable energy facilities, he added.
Other key areas of focus for the kingdom in coming years will be investing in artificial intelligence and delivering on plans to host the World Expo in 2030 and the World Cup in 2034, Mr. al-Rumayyan said. Those projects were considered “critical” and have been prioritized over others, he said.
Asked about the impact that the U.S.-Israeli war with Iran will have on the fund, he said he did not see a large, long-term effect from the war.
Still, he warned of the “negative effects” the conflict will have across the globe as the prices of energy, fertilizer and computer chips all increase.
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Doesn't matter. It is chump change for them! Maybe they can do without a yacht or one of the soccer teams in their league.
This is why you aren't a billionaire
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This is why you aren't a billionaire
Uh, it is using the same arguments Tempo employed for his Bezos WaPo take.
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Uh, it is using the same arguments Tempo employed for his Bezos WaPo take.
“Same” as in they are both pegs, but one is round and one is square. So, not the same.
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“Same” as in they are both pegs, but one is round and one is square. So, not the same.
The only difference is you are happy to see LIV fail.
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https://awfulannouncing.com/golf/liv-finish-2026-season-saudi-funding-withdrawal.html
They have the money! It is just a rounding error for the Saudi Weatlth Fund. This is unfair to all the golfers. When will someone think of the golfers?
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The only difference is you are happy to see LIV fail.
Absolutely. It's been bad for golf fans. I am not watching that LIV product which sucks, but would like to see Bryson and Rahm teeing it up in the PGA events. The Beatles broke up and we got Lennon's solo stuff, Harrison's solo stuff, and Wings. LIV golf has not produced the same result.
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The only difference is you are happy to see LIV fail.
There’s other differences.
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Let’s see if you’re smart enough to figure them out.
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Let’s see if you’re smart enough to figure them out.
The Saudis are even richer than Bezos?
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There’s other differences.
are
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are
Tempo loves the PGA and not LIV and longs for the Good Ol' Days where all the rich Trumper golfers played in the same tournaments?
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Tempo loves the PGA and not LIV and longs for the Good Ol' Days where all the rich Trumper golfers played in the same tournaments?
He's an old school guy like me. He probably never used an aluminum bat either.
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The Saudis are even richer than Bezos?
I suppose that’s one, but not a meaningful one. Keep trying.
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Tempo loves the PGA and not LIV and longs for the Good Ol' Days where all the rich Trumper golfers played in the same tournaments?
Sorry to break it to you - Tiger's never coming back.
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Sorry to break it to you - Tiger's never coming back.
He's the only rich Trumper on the 2 tours? C'mon, man!
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So cmon, PAMan. Can you figure out how these scenarios aren’t quite the same?
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I gave you the ressons.
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Of course Murph likes Wings
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I gave you the ressons.
If I were grading your work, I’d give you an F.
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If I were grading your work, I’d give you an F.
Shocker. Since you are the one claiming there are distinctions aside from "I like golf and want LIV to fail."
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Shocker. Since you are the one claiming there are distinctions aside from "I like golf and want LIV to fail."
"I like College Basketball and I think NIL sucks ass"
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Shocker. Since you are the one claiming there are distinctions aside from "I like golf and want LIV to fail."
There are quite a few distinctions.
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There are quite a few distinctions.
The largest being you love the PGA and hate LIV. The second being the Saudis are richer than Bezos.
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The largest being you love the PGA and hate LIV. The second being the Saudis are richer than Bezos.
Incredibly wrong.
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Just wrong on multiple levels. Multiple. But not surprising from a guy who only sees in black and white.
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Incredibly wrong.
You hate the PGA, love The LIV, and Bezos is richer than the Saudi sovereign wealth fund?
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Just wrong on multiple levels. Multiple. But not surprising from a guy who only sees in black and white.
But says the guy mocking your tears over WaPo!
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You hate the PGA, love The LIV, and Bezos is richer than the Saudi sovereign wealth fund?
A simpleton could do better than this level of analysis.
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The leader going into yesterday's round of a golf tournament that wasn't going to happen shot 2 over. Jon Rahm know tops the leaderboard in the LIV tournament.
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Is that the same Jon Rahm that backdoored a T-38 finish at The Masters?
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Is that the same Jon Rahm that backdoored a T-38 finish at The Masters?
I don't know. Maybe the announcers will answer that. The tournament is on network tv here.
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Tempo so confused these days. Maybe take a week or two off the socials
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I have to read Mn’s posts, of course I’m confused.
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I don't know. Maybe the announcers will answer that. The tournament is on network tv here.
As if there was any need for proof of Mn’s inanity - he watches LIV golf
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As if there was any need for proof of Mn’s inanity - he watches LIV golf
He’s both inane, and insane.
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He’s both inane, and insane.
You know why the AI propaganda you’re so proud of is posted from Pakistan and South Asia? Because they’re dependent on Iranian oil and Iranians can’t even get on the internet to post themselves. The ones the regime hasn’t murdered yet to silence, that is. Thats who you’re supporting.
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You’re strawmanning to level that would make PAMan proud. And Trump thinks people like you are suckers.
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You know why the AI propaganda you’re so proud of is posted from Pakistan and South Asia? Because they’re dependent on Iranian oil and Iranians can’t even get on the internet to post themselves. The ones the regime hasn’t murdered yet to silence, that is. Thats who you’re supporting.
Does not change the fact that LIV is an inferior product. It’s the Woodman’s Eggs of golf
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I buy Woodman’s eggs. They’re fine. I don’t watch LIV Golf.
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I don’t watch LIV Golf.
As noted, you are actively rooting for its failure. Which is fine that you have admitted
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I don’t watch LIV Golf.
So how do you know it’s terrible?! Another uninformed bias. Has some of the greatest golfers in the world playing on it…
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It’s team golf (stupid unless you play for your country or school), played mostly by guys who knew they weren’t good enough to compete at the highest level anymore (The PGA Tour). It’s really quite a simple conclusion to reach. And they play loud music. Fucking dumb.
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So how do you know it’s terrible?! Another uninformed bias. Has some of the greatest golfers in the world playing on it…
It's terrible for golf.... like the USFL was terrible for Football.
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It’s team golf (stupid unless you play for your country or school), played mostly by guys who knew they weren’t good enough to compete at the highest level anymore (The PGA Tour). It’s really quite a simple conclusion to reach. And they play loud music. Fucking dumb.
They have individual play and standings, etc. too I had heard.
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They have the money!
Saudi Fund Behind LIV Golf Has $900 Billion but Is Still Strapped for Cash - WSJ https://share.google/7mXSVrj74NFeihMjn
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They have individual play and standings, etc. too I had heard.
No one cares. That’s why they’re on the verge of shutting down.
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No one cares. That’s why they’re on the verge of shutting down.
Except for the part where you were wrong on individual play.
You can thank Trump for its demise, apparently.
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Except for the part where you were wrong on individual play.
You can thank Trump for its demise, apparently.
I wasn't "wrong." I knew there were individual winners as well. I just didn't mention it; but every player is part of a team, and in professional golf that's ghey, unless you're playing for your country.
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Except for the part where you were wrong on individual play.
You can thank Trump for its demise, apparently.
Thank the fact it sucks for its demise
Who wants to watch 60-something Phil Mickelson anyway?
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And I would argue that American fans have actually ruined the Ryder Cup.
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And I would argue that American fans have actually ruined the Ryder Cup.
It’s all the fucking Trumpers
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I wasn't "wrong." I knew there were individual winners as well. I just didn't mention it; but every player is part of a team, and in professional golf that's ghey, unless you're playing for your country.
Uh huh. Sure! Hilarious.
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The PGA Tour is rich. Why is it cutting jobs??? They have enough money to pay these people!
https://barrettmedia.com/2026/04/24/pga-tour-layoffs-cuts/
The PGA Tour laid off 56 employees Thursday representing four percent of the organization’s total workforce.
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The PGA Tour is rich. Why is it cutting jobs??? They have enough money to pay these people!
https://barrettmedia.com/2026/04/24/pga-tour-layoffs-cuts/
The PGA Tour laid off 56 employees Thursday representing four percent of the organization’s total workforce.
Murph’s AI took their jobs. Murph is also the best story teller on the board.
This is the guy who tells us he’d like to pay more taxes also told us how he exploits all the loopholes to save on taxes on his investments.
He pulled the ladder up behind him like every other Bay Area dweeb that lucked into riches for doing nothing more than being a mediocre coder for a decade or two during the tech boom.
At least he didn’t move to one of the handful of still cool places in the US and ruin everyone else’s lives like all the other Bay Area dorks. He’s going to HLOD those Bay Area properties until that whole house of cards collapses!
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Murph’s AI took their jobs. Murph is also the best story teller on the board.
This is the guy who tells us he’d like to pay more taxes also told us how he exploits all the loopholes to save on taxes on his investments.
He pulled the ladder up behind him like every other Bay Area dweeb that lucked into riches for doing nothing more than being a mediocre coder for a decade or two during the tech boom.
At least he didn’t move to one of the handful of still cool places in the US and ruin everyone else’s lives like all the other Bay Area dorks. He’s going to HLOD those Bay Area properties until that whole house of cards collapses!
Spot on