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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: IVMP on December 26, 2022, 01:24:02 PM
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Haven't started one of these yet. Too soon?
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Hey man that's MY job!
But given our struggles lately maybe it's time I relinquish my thread making duties.
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Seems a little early.
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At least it’s not repetitive…
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Seems a little early.
Might be, but I am out of pocket for most of the next two days. So, this.
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Seems a little early.
Gives you time to free up your schedule now
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Gives you time to free up your schedule now
Reggie Theus will probably have his Wildcats ready to play.
And this one's on FS1. Real TV.
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Had no idea Reggie Theus was their coach. That’s funny.
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Had no idea Reggie Theus was their coach. That’s funny.
wasn't he an option after Weber was let go?
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wasn't he an option after Weber was let go?
He apparently was interested/wanted the job. Was close friends with the Parker family and felt he could land Jabari. Was also reported to be a possibility.
The myth that I wanted Reggie stems from the fact that I once said something along the lines that if we were going with “an unconventional hire,” I didn’t hate it. Definitely far from my first choice.
Then the meme regained legs when I once said 3-5 years later I doubt Theus would have done much if any worse than Groce (when for some reason his name was brought up again). One or two people thought that was a hysterical take (as if it can be much worse than missing the tourney 4x in a row). Outside of a Baylor/Penn State type scandal it doesn’t get much worse than Groce.
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Had no idea Reggie Theus was their coach. That’s funny.
so what you're saying is, you'll actually watch this game?
8)
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so what you're saying is, you'll actually watch this game?
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No, but I’m sure he’ll give his blind analysis on how wrong we are after actually watching it.
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No, but I’m sure he’ll give his blind analysis on how wrong we are after actually watching it.
I think you’re living in like 3-4 years ago. Check that, 3-5.
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so what you're saying is, you'll actually watch this game?
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I watch the vast majority of Illini Basketball games.
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Had no idea Reggie Theus was their coach. That’s funny.
Did not see this until I turned the game on tonight and LMAO.
Good to see Harris and Dainja in the lineup. Clark "injured."
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Harris and Dainja in. Nothing doing offensively.
Until those last two fastbreak buckets.
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Bank is open for Harris
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Well decent start against shit team. Probably need this before playing elite teams like Mizzou again.
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Had no idea Tempo's boy was coaching again.
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Lieb first half sighting. He scores.
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On the bright side, we're at least a P5 team.
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Theus just needs 3-5 more good players
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Isn't that the old NBA on CBS theme music they keep playing?
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Isn't that the old NBA on CBS theme music they keep playing?
NBC but yes
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NBC but yes
Similar to CBS' but it was NBC's. Thanks.
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It it me or has Reg Theus had 3 to 5 surgeries on his face? Looks like he has had some work done.
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Illini 70% from the line. Can't wait until Jan 16th.
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Totally forgot about this game tonight.
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Theus just needs 3-5 more good players
I’ll give a B. It was just sitting there for ya, though.
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Illini 70% from the line. Can't wait until Jan 16th.
I’m just super impressed you were able to diagnose this team as a bad free-throw shooting team after only one game on the season. Kudos to you for being AOTC.
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Totally forgot about this game tonight.
I only do the Hey Tempo There's a Game...for the football games.
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I only do the Hey Tempo There's a Game...for the football games.
Yeah well, I somewhat have a life now. Sometimes I get sidetracked from the important stuff.
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I’m just super impressed you were able to diagnose this team as a bad free-throw shooting team after only one game on the season. Kudos to you for being AOTC.
While I appreciate the compliment, it is free shot shooting. It is not tough to diagnose.
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Yeah well, I somewhat have a life now. Sometimes I get sidetracked from the important stuff.
Those Bear mocks do take a lot of time.
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While I appreciate the compliment, it is free shot shooting. It is not tough to diagnose.
Particularly when extrapolating the rest of the season after one game.
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Particularly when extrapolating the rest of the season after one game.
Easy to do for free shot shooting.
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Appears they scrapped the switching on D. Teams were easily exploiting all the mismatches that came from it. I never liked going back to it since it really didn't net us great results in Underwood's first 2.5 years here but I suppose he believed with better athletes it would be different this time around.
I'm not even gonna entertain the idea of the ship being righted after beating up on Harriet Tubman. We need to get a W in Evanston for this thing to start turning in the right direction again.
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With Harris and dainja starting this could be interesting going forward
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For all the talk leading up to the season about switching everything our lead guards never had the size to do it, and learning it with a whole new assemblage of talent was a tall task regardless.
I mean if Shannon or Hawkins (or Rodgers, for that matter) could actually be the primary ball handlers the way the staff had *hoped*, maybe we could pull it off. But Clark, Epps and Harris all have to play too many minutes, creating laughable mismatches.
Less so for Harris, but still. I think when we go against Purdue there might be a switch he gets stuck on Edey, and he’ll grab Edey’s arm to keep him from scoring, but Edey will just dunk the ball regardless with Harris still clutching it as they both go through the rim.
Hasn’t been a good month for the staff, or some guys we need more from. Brad loves to fall in love with his pet ideas and run them well past their expiration dates. Glad to see some changes. There are way too many solid pieces on this team to be getting Eiffel towered by PSU at home and subsequently anally gaped and creampied by fucking Mizzou.
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There are way too many solid pieces on this team to be getting Eiffel towered by PSU at home and subsequently anally gaped and creampied by fucking Mizzou.
(https://i.postimg.cc/tJQTTMg4/7-CA4113-B-F5-BB-4729-AF9-A-8-FE778-B958-E5.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ftCZq5XG)
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With these defensive changes, and hopefully the creation of an offense, I remain hopeful this team can actually win at least 2 games in the Only End of the Season March Tourney That Matters.
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Going into yesterday, we were 306th in free shot shooting percentage.
We'll be worse with the updated stats.
We were 203 in 3 pt percentage at 33.33%.
We didn't help ourselves in that stat either.
We were 18th in 3 pt shots attempted per game.
We'll still be in the top 20 for 3 pt shots attempted per game, hang a banner, while blistering the nets at 33 %.
We were 315th in turnovers per game at 15.2
And we turned the ball over 18 times in a rough and tumble game with Bethune-Cookman.
So we didn't help ourselves in that stat either.
But it was comforting to hear Bardo say something to the effect that Underwood will have words with the team about the turnovers. ;D
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I appreciate that it took being manhandled by Mizzou for Brad to start our best guard. For the next revelation I hope shooting 28% at home against a one-bid conference team convinces him that we are not a 3 pt shooting team.
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Going into yesterday, we were 306th in free shot shooting percentage.
We'll be worse with the updated stats.
We were 203 in 3 pt percentage at 33.33%.
We didn't help ourselves in that stat either.
We were 18th in 3 pt shots attempted per game.
We'll still be in the top 20 for 3 pt shots attempted per game, hang a banner, while blistering the nets at 33 %.
We were 315th in turnovers per game at 15.2
And we turned the ball over 18 times in a rough and tumble game with Bethune-Cookman.
So we didn't help ourselves in that stat either.
But it was comforting to hear Bardo say something to the effect that Underwood will have words with the team about the turnovers. ;D
I would argue the 203rd is a bigger problem than the 306th.
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I would argue the 203rd is a bigger problem than the 306th.
You'll argue anything. ;D
Jack em up guys. Sooner or later 1 will drop.
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I would argue the 203rd is a bigger problem than the 306th.
Why can’t they both be? Like is it really argue worthy?! They both are an issue and problem and could both cost us games in the future (after 1/16/23 of course).
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Why can’t they both be? Like is it really argue worthy?! They both are an issue and problem and could both cost us games in the future (after 1/16/23 of course).
*BIGGER problem*
Again, reading comprehension is fundamental.
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And with updated stats, we're still at #18 in 3 pt attempts per game.
We're down to 227th in percentage tho.
Tho the #227 is bad, I would argue that being 18th in attempts is head scratching when shooting the way we do.
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*BIGGER problem*
Again, reading comprehension is fundamental.
I completely understand what you’re saying, but… AGAIN, I think you just like to argue.
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And with updated stats, we're still at #18 in 3 pt attempts per game.
We're down to 227th in percentage tho.
Tho the #227 is bad, I would argue that being 18th in attempts is head scratching when shooting the way we do.
Maybe he consulted JFG during the off-season to get some offensive scheme advice?
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I completely understand what you’re saying, but… AGAIN, I think you just like to argue.
You’re the one who couldn’t comprehend the meaning of “bigger problem.”
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Going into yesterday, we were 306th in free shot shooting percentage.
We'll be worse with the updated stats.
We were 203 in 3 pt percentage at 33.33%.
We didn't help ourselves in that stat either.
We were 18th in 3 pt shots attempted per game.
We'll still be in the top 20 for 3 pt shots attempted per game, hang a banner, while blistering the nets at 33 %.
We were 315th in turnovers per game at 15.2
And we turned the ball over 18 times in a rough and tumble game with Bethune-Cookman.
So we didn't help ourselves in that stat either.
But it was comforting to hear Bardo say something to the effect that Underwood will have words with the team about the turnovers. ;D
well we're 67th in true shot percentage which isn't awful but not good either (good for 6th best in b1g)
for reference AZ is #1 Mizzou is #2 highest B1g team is Indiana at #15 and Purdue is at #57
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/true-shooting-percentage
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well we're 67th in true shot percentage which isn't awful but not good either (good for 6th best in b1g)
for reference AZ is #1 Mizzou is #2 highest B1g team is Indiana at #15 and Purdue is at #57
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/true-shooting-percentage
Are 3 point rates and 2 point rates the percentages of shots that are 3 pt and 2 pt ?
From that site ....
We're 27th in 3 point rates, and 337th in 2 point rates.
Is it safe to assume our true shot percentage would be better if we increased our 2 point attempt numbers ?
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Maybe he consulted JFG during the off-season to get some offensive scheme advice?
He should talk to JFG about cutting back on turnovers.
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Talk on Loyalty is about if Clark is really hurt or not....
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Are 3 point rates and 2 point rates the percentages of shots that are 3 pt and 2 pt ?
From that site ....
We're 27th in 3 point rates, and 337th in 2 point rates.
Is it safe to assume our true shot percentage would be better if we increased our 2 point attempt numbers ?
If the 2 pointers going yeah...
2 pointers at 50% are the same as hitting a 3 at 33%
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If the 2 pointers going yeah...
2 pointers at 50% are the same as hitting a 3 at 33%
We're hitting 58% of our 2 pointers.
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well we're 67th in true shot percentage which isn't awful but not good either (good for 6th best in b1g)
for reference AZ is #1 Mizzou is #2 highest B1g team is Indiana at #15 and Purdue is at #57
https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-basketball/stat/true-shooting-percentage
What is a "true shot percentage" and how is it different from "shot percentage"?
Awaiting IVMP to weigh in like on win probability percentages....
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You’re the one who couldn’t comprehend the meaning of “bigger problem.”
You do not deny that you like to argue....
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What is a "true shot percentage" and how is it different from "shot percentage"?
Awaiting IVMP to weigh in like on win probability percentages....
Some analytics thing. Points divided by a formula of fg attempts plus a percentage of free throw attempts ?
I just watch us brick a lot of 3s, and I go from there. Lol.
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Talk on Loyalty is about if Clark is really hurt or not....
Hopefully he hits the portal. He’s not a difference maker at this level.
Harris should be getting all the minutes that would otherwise go to Clark.
I feel like Underwood probably promised him a starting job to get him to come. Now he sees in person what I saw on tape. That the guy isn’t good
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What is a "true shot percentage" and how is it different from "shot percentage"?
Awaiting IVMP to weigh in like on win probability percentages....
TS% - True Shooting Percentage; the formula is PTS / (2 * TSA). True shooting percentage is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account field goals, 3-point field goals, and free throws. TSA - True Shooting Attempts; the formula is FGA + 0.44 * FTA.
hopefully that isn't too complicated for you
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TS% - True Shooting Percentage; the formula is PTS / (2 * TSA). True shooting percentage is a measure of shooting efficiency that takes into account field goals, 3-point field goals, and free throws. TSA - True Shooting Attempts; the formula is FGA + 0.44 * FTA.
hopefully that isn't too complicated for you
It isn't. Just unsure that it means much.
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You do not deny that you like to argue....
Which apparently makes me unique here…
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Hopefully he hits the portal. He’s not a difference maker at this level.
Harris should be getting all the minutes that would otherwise go to Clark.
I feel like Underwood probably promised him a starting job to get him to come. Now he sees in person what I saw on tape. That the guy isn’t good
I think its a tad too early to completely write him off, but not looking like a top 25 recruit at the moment that's for sure
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I think its a tad too early to completely write him off, but not looking like a top 25 recruit at the moment that's for sure
Maybe 3-5 more minutes per game would help him.
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He has/had crazy athleticism and is a top-25 recruit, let’s just hope he gets back to that and starts to open up and trust his knee more after his injury (where nothing happened).
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He's a 5-star PG recruit playing like a 3-star 2G/reach combo guard recruit. If he thinks he's a lead guard now and it's 30 mpg or the highway he can find himself a spot at Western Kentucky or something.
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He's a 5-star PG recruit playing like a 3-star 2G/reach combo guard recruit. If he thinks he's a lead guard now and it's 30 mpg or the highway he can find himself a spot at Western Kentucky or something.
Agreed
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im diurnk so ill keep my opinions to my self but i would tell the truth on the players ok/
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im diurnk so ill keep my opinions to my self but i would tell the truth on the players ok/
You must be very diurnk from that post! 😂
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He's a 5-star PG recruit playing like a 3-star 2G/reach combo guard recruit. If he thinks he's a lead guard now and it's 30 mpg or the highway he can find himself a spot at Western Kentucky or something.
Khristian Lander lasted 2 seasons at Indiana before transferring out to a lower level and he at least had 5 star athleticism. He’s now at Western Kentucky and still sucks.
Given Clark’s brother was cut loose fast, it wouldn’t surprise to see him gone after this year. Epps and Harris are both better prospects (Harris far better athlete/defense, Epps far better creating offense), which means Clark probably doesn’t start next year if he were still on the team.
I think the portal will mean guys either show something early or transfer. You won’t see much gradual development. Even guy like Podz left and he’s have had a role on this current team if he stayed
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Clark was withheld due to a left shoulder injury.
Apparently this has been an ongoing issue -- he wore a brace during the exhibition game. The pain supposedly has affected his play and might be the reason he left games and did not return. Details are sketchy, but Google Skyy Clark shoulder injury. It is his left, so it affects his off hand.
BU has said some of his players are pussies who run to the trainer everytime they have a booboo.
Matt Mayer has chronic back pain and has publicly said he has disagreed with BU on how to deal with it.
One of the insiders at loyalty was implying that (1). the staff was using a fake injury reports to justify withholding Clark, or (2). Clark is faking the shoulder injury?
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It isn't. Just unsure that it means much.
I am quite sure it doesn't mean much, based on the "percentages" being above 100 in most cases.