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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Miles Leonard on December 22, 2022, 12:28:50 PM
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Beat these clowns.
Oh and stay safe, gontlemenz.
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Yes, and yes.
For everybody who gets the SEC Channel, you can watch the game there.
Other than that, it's supposed to be streaming on the ESPN app.
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It’s not on TV?
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It’s not on TV?
If you get the SEC channel in your package, it's on your tv. ;D
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Pathetic
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Other than that, it's supposed to be streaming on the ESPN app.
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If you get the SEC channel in your package, it's on your tv. ;D
IDKWTI
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I just upgraded to Hulu Live TV for $69.99/month to watch 😂
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You can get a free trial of YOUTUBE TV and watch it on your computer, or if you have a newer Smart TV or dongle to get the YouTube TV app you can watch it on TV.
SEC network is part of basic package.
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Big game. Cant afford to lose this one. Missouri is a terrible defensive team. Has One of the lower kenpom metrics and against bad competition save Kansas and Wichita State. They force turnovers but give up points in bunches.
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Big game. Cant afford to lose this one. Missouri is a terrible defensive team. Has One of the lower kenpom metrics and against bad competition save Kansas and Wichita State. They force turnovers but give up points in bunches.
All true. The PSU loss was a collective unacceptable mental breakdown, but they can light you up at times and is a possible NCAA team.
Mizzou is not very good, and cannot guard an empty chair.
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These last 3 games now have been very hard to watch.
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These last 3 games now have been very hard to watch.
Maybe there is a reason this game is on the SEC Network.
The Illini offense remains putrid. Bricking 3 after 3.
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Offense is terrible so far
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We are In a funk
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Hawkins is a turnover machine.
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Another impressive start.
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Half court offense is pathetic. Standing around while one guy goes one-on-one. We're making a trash Mizzou defense look good.
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Maybe there is a reason this game is on the SEC Network.
The Illini offense remains putrid. Bricking 3 after 3.
We have absolutely no half court sets what so ever. It's all one on one.
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Which is worse? The Illini offense or the Jets offense?
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Hawkins has his head up his ass.
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Bring back Kofi
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Another double digit deficit against a P5 opponent.
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Another double digit deficit against a P5 opponent.
More great defense too!
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Will we make it to the tournament? At this point that's all I want. Might be a high bar though.
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Beating Texas in MSG broke us.
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Illini offense is better without Kofi
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The Illini defense is better without Kofi
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Fire Underwood.
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8 turnovers and shooting 27%
Maybe try for some 2 point buckets.
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Turning this game off.
Underwood can fuck off.
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How the fuck does every fucking team find their stroke against us?
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8 turnovers and shooting 27%
Maybe try for some 2 point buckets.
Still looks like the Weber non-offense to me.
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How the fuck does every fucking team find their stroke against us?
The defense sucks?
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If Underachiever can get to the only tourney that matters and wins 2 games (excluding any play in game), I'll be content.
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Betting old Squeaky has rubbed himself raw watching this one.
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Clark, Melendez, and Hawkins have been terrible. Kobe Brown is doing whatever he wants.
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Still looks like the Weber non-offense to me.
That offense had a little more movement, even if it was outside the arc.
I think I'm glad I'm not getting a feed, but it ain't over til it's over.
2 assists. 2.
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Penn St lit us up. We came out with zero effort. Ok. Maybe that's a one time deal. Don't let it happen again.
But to come out listless and unprepared again, for the second time in three games? You can't even get up for Bragging Rights? This, my friends, is what we call a disturbing trend.
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We have A-minus talent and C-minus intangibles. WTF is this shit.
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That offense had a little more movement, even if it was outside the arc.
I think I'm glad I'm not getting a feed, but it ain't over til it's over.
2 assists. 2.
It is the same bullshit over and over again
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At least roughy's suffering.
https://twitter.com/ALionEye/status/1606115799013507073?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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We have A-minus talent and C-minus intangibles. WTF is this shit.
Teams seem to run real offenses and the Illini D can't stop them
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Now Mayer wants to start hitting threes. Good fucking job, dunce.
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Glad this game isn’t on TV. To quote Homer Simpson, “This is going greaaat…”
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Teams seem to run real offenses and the Illini D can't stop them
How do you work on it in practice if you can't run one, or defend one ?
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Glad this game isn’t on TV. To quote Homer Simpson, “This is going greaaat…”
It is on TV. Watching it now and the TNF game.. Illini down 30
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How do you work on it in practice if you can't run one, or defend one ?
I don't know which one is the chicken or the egg.
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This positionless basketball is going well. Now no one plays D.
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This is fucking embarrassing and completely unacceptable! I’m about ready to start throwing shit! We’re getting fucking punked!
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Who's Underwood gonna throw under the bus this time? It won't be himself although I'd like to be the one to toss his ass under it myself.
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Points off turnovers, 30 to zip. Lol.
30 points off 13 turnovers is impossible. Must be a stat problem 🙏
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Give me 5 of Harris on the floor and I’ll be happy. That dude works his ass off!
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We're getting curbstomped by a team of everyday guys, as in they'll all have everyday jobs in a few years.
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Hopefully this is hitting bottom.
They need to turn it around.
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Teams seem to run real offenses and the Illini D can't stop them
Weird how playing a PG and four forwards who want to shoot 3s can lead to match-up problems and the other team draining 3s.
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Hopefully this is hitting bottom.
They need to turn it around.
How many times we going to think this?
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Hopefully this is hitting bottom.
They need to turn it around.
Missouri 74 Illinois 39 with these teams is worse than any single result of the Groce era.
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And there's 12 minutes left.
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Never seen so many backdoors and wide open threes
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Never seen so many backdoors and wide open threes
Underachiever being outcoached has been a reoccurring theme throughout his tenure.
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Kansas put 95 on this team.
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Good thing Illinois is a football school
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I am fucking livid. This is 100% on Underwood. Between Penn State and this game, the positionless scheme of letting guys do whatever they want is not working. It only works when we hit threes.
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Missouri 74 Illinois 39 with these teams is worse than any single result of the Groce era.
And this coming off a curb stomping by Penn Fucking St at home.
This is the same group that beat UCLA and Texas. Yeah sure they didn't look pretty doing it but they still did it. The talent is there. Something is very seriously off. Too many egos? No buy in from the players? I don't know but they're in need for a hard reset over the holidays. Something has to change.
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Kansas put 95 on this team.
The following juggernauts put up 80+ against Mizzou's D:
Southern Indiana - 91
Penn - 85
SIUE - 80
SE Missouri St - 89
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I am fucking livid. This is 100% on Underwood. Between Penn State and this game, the positionless scheme of letting guys do whatever they want is not working. It only works when we hit threes.
Don't let it make you think about eating pussy.
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I picked a great game to skip, not to mention didn't want to stream on crack streams.
We suck right now. As said above big reset coming.
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I can call him Underwhelm again.. I guess I got that going for me
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Big win for Dom. Happy for him.
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This is making me sick. Just fucking pathetic.
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And this coming off a curb stomping by Penn Fucking St at home.
This is the same group that beat UCLA and Texas. Yeah sure they didn't look pretty doing it but they still did it. The talent is there. Something is very seriously off. Too many egos? No buy in from the players? I don't know but they're in need for a hard reset over the holidays. Something has to change.
Imo we have guys who don't know their role because no one bothers to tell them or bench them for doing their own thing.
Hawkins and Shannon going 0-11 from 3 is the pretty much all of what's wrong with this approach.
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This team has too much talent to be getting blown out like this
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I think the experiment of Hawkins as trigger man or point forward needs to be shit canned.
He can't create his own and cannot shoot and is TO prone.
Start Harris. Have Shannon be lead guard.
Start Epps, Mayer, Hawkins.
Dainja and Melendez first off bench.
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Literally all we do is Jack 3’s. And we suck at it. Pair that with no defense and well, here we are.
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If Mayer is our best player in a game we suck.
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Harris needs to be rewarded and start the next game.
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Don't let it make you think about eating pussy.
too late
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I think the experiment of Hawkins as trigger man or point forward needs to be shit canned.
He can't create his own and cannot shoot and is TO prone.
Start Harris. Have Shannon be lead guard.
Start Epps, Mayer, Hawkins.
Dainja and Melendez first off bench.
Harris is the only one on the team playing like he actually gives a fuck. As someone said earlier, give me 5 Sincere's out there and I'm good.
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Harris needs to be rewarded and start the next game.
I think he should
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Harris is the only one on the team playing like he actually gives a fuck. As someone said earlier, give me 5 Sincere's out there and I'm good.
It was me. He should start every game from here on out until someone out works him and earns it over him.
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It was me. He should start every game from here on out until someone out works him and earns it over him.
You win the best idea of the day award.
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I’d start the walk-on’s over this shit. This is just sickening.
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Maybe mizzou is just that good
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You win the best idea of the day award.
Well deserved, as the only other ideas of the day around here were a) Justin Fields' running is more scrutinized than Josh Allen's because Allen is white and b) jacking off to Zach Edey.
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Well deserved, as the only other ideas of the day around here were a) Justin Fields' running is more scrutinized than Josh Allen's because Allen is white and b) jacking off to Zach Edey.
Hey man, don’t diminish my award🤷🏻♂️
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Don't let it make you think about eating pussy.
Amazing post!
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We really need to change up the lineup at this point.
Epps, Harris, Shannon, Mayer, and Dainja are our best 5 tonight. Really embarassing that RJ and Hawkins were here last year and are playing like freshmen.
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Well free throw shooting wasn't our biggest problem after all
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Well free throw shooting wasn't our biggest problem after all
Looks like I was wrong about Free Shots being an issue that would kill this team in the NCAA tourney.
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We really need to change up the lineup at this point.
Epps, Harris, Shannon, Mayer, and Dainja are our best 5 tonight. Really embarassing that RJ and Hawkins were here last year and are playing like freshmen.
I love how Hawkins always pumps fake his man who's standing 6 feet away from him because he knows he's not a threat to shoot. Then he drives and turns it over. When one of your supposed leaders is scared to shoot on top of being a turnover machine, that's a problem.
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Hawkins is complete mess. Was asked to be a leader and has shit the bed. Gets the ball open 4 feet away and turns his back to the hole and kicks it out.
He has zero confidence in his shot. Can't pass, cant take anyone big or small off the bounce.
He needs to be at the 5 and option number 3 in possession time which he can probably handle.
If he doesn't improve, bench him and play Dainja at the 5 and bring him off the bench.
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Hawkins had 6 TOs. His 5th game out of 12 with 5 or more TO's.
UW is idiot to keep having him with the ball in his hands so much. He is killing us.
He is shooting 7 for 35 from three (20%) since the EIU first game which apparently was an aberration.
Teams can play off him and he can't do a damn thing about it. No pull up, can't get to hole, cant shoot FT's.
He needs to score off Off rebounds, put backs, running the court.
Anything else is gravy.
He is an Off liability. His Off Rating in KenPom is 98.
The worst out of our top 8 guys in playing time.
That is really pretty bad for a guy who we run the offense through.
Time for retooling the lineup and roles.
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Underachiever started by throwing himself under the bus then claimed lack of communications on switches and effort...
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Looks like I was wrong about Free Shots being an issue that would kill this team in the NCAA tourney.
We will be lucky to make the tourney at this rate
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We will be lucky to make the tourney at this rate
Will kill them in the NIT
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This interview is quite passive aggressive. Blames himself and then discusses how they didn't do in the game what he had them do in practice.
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Wow. Basically calling the team a bunch of pussies who head to the training room when they get a "boo boo."
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Wow. Basically calling the team a bunch of pussies who head to the training room when they get a "boo boo."
Might be true.
They have been a bunch of pussies the last three games.
Time to man the fuck up.
But UW needs to make major shift in roles and approach and tick.
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Hope Goode can help turn this thing around before it's too late.
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😂.
All you homers like LKDog and Miles Leonard and Nichi need to stop defending this team.
It’s trash. Look how they play together vs a ragtag Mizzou team with brand new coach.
Fire Underwood.
Kofi and Antigua ain’t coming back to save his ass
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Time to man the fuck up.
But UW needs to make major shift in roles and approach and tick.
May be time to go back to man-to-man as this switching stuff just does not appear to work.
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Missouri 74 Illinois 39 with these teams is worse than any single result of the Groce era.
Yes it is.
What you are seeing is a team of parts that don’t fit together combined with zero coaching.
Dennis Gates had his team moving the ball, cutting, playing with purpose.
Poor roster construction combined with 0 coaching. Illinois doesn’t run anything. And their defensive philosophy is atrocious. But that’s not a surprise. The defense was only masked by Kofi. Before him it sucked. After it sucks.
All you Underwood homers need to eat the shit he’s serving up. It ain’t gonna get better
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I think you better sit a few plays out Restraining Order Dorminic.
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Hope Goode can help turn this thing around before it's too late.
I think he was still in a boot tonight.
Have not heard anything about when he will be ready.
He can shoot and is tough. We could use that.
Biggest issue is over using Hawkins and under using Shannon.
Get Hawkins off the ball.
I am sure there will be changes moving forward.
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I think you better sit a few plays out Restraining Order Dorminic.
"Rod" I like it.
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I think he was still in a boot tonight.
Have not heard anything about when he will be ready.
He can shoot and is tough. We could use that.
Biggest issue is over using Hawkins and under using Shannon.
Get Hawkins off the ball.
I am sure there will be changes moving forward.
It is quite mind boggling we aren't running our offense through our best player
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I think you better sit a few plays out Restraining Order Dorminic.
I’m the only person that understands basketball here.
Before the season I said:
Skyy Clark is too slow to play PG at the high D1 level. That was right.
Ty Rodgers was not a High D1 player. That was right.
Mayer would suck. Which if you watch him play, he does. He kills all ball movement.
Illinois was down by 35 vs Mizzou, and 20+ vs Penn State. Gives up an 18-2 run to Alabama AM. It stinks. Just take the Loss. The defense sucks, there’s no movement, nothing ran on offense. Underwood is brain dead. What coach would ever position Coleman Hawkins to dribble vs a press?
It’s just a team of random pieces that don’t compliment each other running park ball.
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😂.
All you homers like LKDog and Miles Leonard and Nichi need to stop defending this team.
It’s trash. Look how they play together vs a ragtag Mizzou team with brand new coach.
Fire Underwood.
Kofi and Antigua ain’t coming back to save his ass
lol wut? You'd be hard pressed to find anyone singing this team's praises in the past two weeks.
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Looks like I was wrong about Free Shots being an issue that would kill this team in the NCAA tourney.
After one games’ worth of data, I thought you had really zeroed in on the issue.
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I'm hoping that Dom's finally right about something. He certainly can't predict the stock market or presidential elections.
The sooner Underwood is fired the better.
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UW not going anywhere for very long time.
He and staff need to change the course.
We will see what they come up with.
As for Restraining Order Dorminic, it sounds like this Karen owns him like a little bitch and sees firsthand his pathetic existence.
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Teams running into a 3 game slump happens all the time, but it's how and if they come out of it that matters.
It looks like these guys are trying to learn to play a game that they haven't played before.
They have, for years. It's time to get back to some basic hoops.
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Worse run of it since the Texas game: Chris Beard, or the Illini?
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UW not going anywhere for very long time.
He and staff need to change the course.
We will see what they come up with.
As for Restraining Order Dorminic, it sounds like this Karen owns him like a little bitch and sees firsthand his pathetic existence.
Restraining Order Don (ROD) probably enjoys Karen smacking him around.
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After one games’ worth of data, I thought you had really zeroed in on the issue.
Free shots are still a problem. Not making the NCAA Tourney would mean free shots won't kill them there. We all know nuance is lost on you.
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Underwood, has to feel defeated and he should, he has got to figure out a way to get this team to play up to its potential.
Harris is the future, kid gets it everytime he hits the floor.
Skyy and TSJ are full of themselves for different reasons, results are the same, overhyped, play overall is not equal to the hype. TSJ has the talent and Alpha Dog in him, problem is he can't get his "pack" to follow/buyin.
Hawkins has been soft since he got here, kid just is not a dominant player, can't be, not the personality.
Epps is a pure talent that needs more time on the court....him and Harris together might be really good?
Mayer is stagnant, looks as if he doesn't fit with team (many don't right now), and probably now is our most consistant player....BIG problem.
Dain, well hell, can't jump, tries to many reverse fancy layups, hands of stone it seems on rebounds....
Foreign kid may have joined to get an early read on Hawkins departure?
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How many years can Whitman allow Underwood to miss the Sweet 16?
There isn't a Ayo or Kofi on the roster or incoming next year, so can't see a Sweet 16 any time soon.
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Need to wait until Jaunuary 16th to determine.
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Need to wait until Jaunuary 16th to determine.
Far be it from me to jump the gun, but ......
NCAA has 352 teams listed in 3 pt shooting.
We clock in at #206, 110-330 and 26% since the Tx game. Lol.
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Free shots are still a problem. Not making the NCAA Tourney would mean free shots won't kill them there. We all know nuance is lost on you.
And we all know the hilarity of raising the alarm bell for missing a couple more free-throws than you’d like to in the first game of the season in a 30 point win is lost on you.
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And we all know the hilarity of raising the alarm bell for missing a couple more free-throws than you’d like to in the first game of the season in a 30 point win is lost on you.
And yet the issues with Free Shots continued...
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Far be it from me to jump the gun, but ......
NCAA has 352 teams listed in 3 pt shooting.
We clock in at #206, 110-330 and 26% since the Tx game. Lol.
Doesn't matter. January 16th is the day to look at it.
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And yet the issues with Free Shots continued...
I think it’s to the point we can safely say this is a mediocre (at best) FT shooting team. It doesn’t really make the “OMG FT shooting will cost us later” after game 1 less funny. Congrats on apparently being AOTC.
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We're ranked #309 in free throw shot percentage.
I know it's still too early to be "concerned" or hang a banner tho.
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We're ranked #309 in free throw shot percentage.
I know it's still too early to be "concerned" or hang a banner tho.
Again, PAMan well ahead of the curve.
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We're ranked #309 in free throw shot percentage.
I know it's still too early to be "concerned" or hang a banner tho.
I was classmates with PAMan. He was in school pursuing a degree in free-throw shooting before he decided to pursue law instead.I continued to receive my PhD in passes into the flat. While he didn't ultimately get his degree in free-throws, he can diagnose a free-throw problem before it gets serious.
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The coaches must see something in practice with Hawkins as a point center?
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We are really weak with the ball. Never seen so many guys get it simply stripped.
We look like little kids playing against men lately. Early on we were the aggressor.
Feliz needs to come back and teach these pussies.
And get fcking Hawkins off the ball.
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The coaches must see something in practice with Hawkins as a point center?
Maybe what they don't see in practice is who he's going against. It's us.
We need to play some defense.
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We need to stop shooting uncontested shots.
https://twitter.com/Sturdy32/status/1606324244647882752?t=lkkJwQaakvPHt0MjDeAScQ&s=19
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I’ve also noticed a trend over the past few games. Anybody that Skyy Clark is guarding is just backing him down and getting east layup and shots right at the rim. It’s a well known isolation teams have been using against him/us.
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I’ve also noticed a trend over the past few games. Anybody that Skyy Clark is guarding is just backing him down and getting east layup and shots right at the rim. It’s a well known isolation teams have been using against him/us.
He is struggling. He got back doored several times. I recall Ayo had same thing happen to him vs Loyola about five times.
He is playing tight. Anxiety creates slow feet and reactions.
Same with Hawkins. Very anxious looking and tentative.
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I was going to say that Clark is tentative; which makes him looks slow. He has flashed speed, quickness, and hops at times. It could be he does not trust the knee yet, but his shot has also been on and off.
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Expecting any sort of consistency or good defense from freshman isn't very realistic. The teams that smoked us were stocked with grown ass men on them.
I'm far more annoyed with the play of our veterans. (the few that we have)
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Nice profile pic, Fanin. Got this in my man cave.
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Nice profile pic, Fanin. Got this in my man cave.
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It's an epic pic. Have just decided to buy this pic for my Christmas present. Will hold off on the lizard skin shoes.
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I’ve also noticed a trend over the past few games. Anybody that Skyy Clark is guarding is just backing him down and getting east layup and shots right at the rim. It’s a well known isolation teams have been using against him/us.
I rewatched the game. Skyy Clark can’t guard anyone. He’s way too slow to defend high major D1 guards. He also looks overweight. He’s shaped like a rectangle. And you can’t claim it’s due to age why he’s struggling. Plenty of freshman PGs will flash if they have talent. Curbelo certainly did. Skyy Clark shows nothing. I may have been overly optimistic in even comparing him to Mark Smith.
No clue what Nichi was watching trying to claim this guy was good off some preseason clip. His HS tape doesn’t lie and it’s why Kentucky cut him loose. He’s not a high major D1 player. He doesn’t flash any high major skill. He can’t create for anyone on offense, and can’t guard on defense. He can dribble and has a good shooting form. That’s it. Not enough. At least with Harris on the floor you get defensive value and a high major D1 athlete.
Which ever Illini Guardian paid for Clark needs their money back.
Epps I think can still be a functional player. Dainja is functional. Harris should develop into a very good player.
Rodgers & Clark need to hit the Oregon Trail.
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I didn't watch the misery game. Someone said the problem Skyy Clark had on defense was when he switched off on a taller player.
His recruiting coach left UK. They have loads of guard depth. He asked for and was granted a release. Nothing to see there.
The knee is fine. He may not be dunking from the free throw line yet, but the athleticism is mostly back. His problems are over thinking, being tentative, learning defense, frustration-- normal freshman issues. Add in perhaps not fully trusting the knee. And, yes, he has excellent basic basketball skills.
Rodgers is a stud athlete with ball handling and passing skills. Also rebounds, scores in the paint, and plays defense. Can't shoot beyond midrange and so far has he has looked completely lost. Heard he played well against Misery.
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Rodgers is a stud athlete with ball handling and passing skills. Also rebounds, scores in the paint, and plays defense. Can't shoot beyond midrange and so far has he has looked completely lost. Heard he played well against Misery.
Nobody played well this game it was an utter dumpster fire that we were down 30 for most of
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Kylan Boswell shooting 29.6%, 17.6% from 3 For AZ.
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Btw, prior to the head injury, Curbelo did more than flash talent. He was B1G 6th man of the year. He has some unique skills and I am sure most of us hope he recovers and has a great career.
Some seem to get a surreptitious joy in seeing others fail. I admit to a little schadenfreude when IU, Michigan, or Iowa lose.
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Btw, prior to the head injury, Curbelo did more than flash talent. He was B1G 6th man of the year. He has some unique skills and I am sure most of us hope he recovers and has a great career.
Some seem to get a surreptitious joy in seeing others fail. I admit to a little schadenfreude when IU, Michigan, or Iowa lose.
Nope. After players leave Illinois, they can go fuck themselves. I honestly don’t care about them anymore. I mean, I don’t really care that much about them anyway. It’s not like they’re friends or family.
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I rewatched the game. Skyy Clark can’t guard anyone. He’s way too slow to defend high major D1 guards. He also looks overweight. He’s shaped like a rectangle. And you can’t claim it’s due to age why he’s struggling. Plenty of freshman PGs will flash if they have talent. Curbelo certainly did. Skyy Clark shows nothing. I may have been overly optimistic in even comparing him to Mark Smith.
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big thing that stands out to me is about 2APG and 1SPG less but 1RPG more
if we actually ran the ball through him (or had some better 3pt shooters) I am confident he could up those numbers, but his defense sucks and like the other player, really needs to lose some weight
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Btw, prior to the head injury, Curbelo did more than flash talent. He was B1G 6th man of the year. He has some unique skills and I am sure most of us hope he recovers and has a great career.
Some seem to get a surreptitious joy in seeing others fail. I admit to a little schadenfreude when IU, Michigan, or Iowa lose.
Curbelo is just doing Curbelo at St. John's.
He had a good run for us for the last part of his freshmen year. He was a fckign hot mess before then.
He gets a pass on last year.
This year he has had 4 or more TO's in half of his games. Still has no perimeter jumper. Can be very good at times, but most times it is a crapshoot.
Pretty much how he was as frosh for us.
He is still pretty much a net zero on the risk/reward metric. His KenPom OFF rating is below 100 (that is not good in case you were counting).
Hawkins is about the same and also under 100. For every good play they make a shit play or bad shot is around the corner.
I will say that if he was here this year we would not be running the offense through Hawkins which should have been shit canned long ago.
I think UW thinks he was protecting the Freshmen PG's and bringing them along slowly, but it has fucked up our offense movement, and they likely are thinking WTF is going on.
They get brought in to play lead guard and they get stuck on the wing watching a giraffe trip over himself and cough it up.
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I didn't watch the misery game.
How convenient 😂
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I rewatched the game. Skyy Clark can’t guard anyone. He’s way too slow to defend high major D1 guards. He also looks overweight. He’s shaped like a rectangle. And you can’t claim it’s due to age why he’s struggling. Plenty of freshman PGs will flash if they have talent. Curbelo certainly did. Skyy Clark shows nothing. I may have been overly optimistic in even comparing him to Mark Smith.
No clue what Nichi was watching trying to claim this guy was good off some preseason clip. His HS tape doesn’t lie and it’s why Kentucky cut him loose. He’s not a high major D1 player. He doesn’t flash any high major skill. He can’t create for anyone on offense, and can’t guard on defense. He can dribble and has a good shooting form. That’s it. Not enough. At least with Harris on the floor you get defensive value and a high major D1 athlete.
Which ever Illini Guardian paid for Clark needs their money back.
Epps I think can still be a functional player. Dainja is functional. Harris should develop into a very good player.
Rodgers & Clark need to hit the Oregon Trail.
Good try, but the Oregon Trail was Lewis and Clark. You might be thinking of George Rogers Clark, who surprised some natives at Vincennes.
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Curbelo is just doing Curbelo at St. John's.
He had a good run for us for the last part of his freshmen year. He was a fckign hot mess before then.
He gets a pass on last year.
This year he has had 4 or more TO's in half of his games. Still has no perimeter jumper. Can be very good at times, but most times it is a crapshoot.
Pretty much how he was as frosh for us.
He is still pretty much a net zero on the risk/reward metric. His KenPom OFF rating is below 100 (that is not good in case you were counting).
Hawkins is about the same and also under 100. For every good play they make a shit play or bad shot is around the corner.
I will say that if he was here this year we would not be running the offense through Hawkins which should have been shit canned long ago.
I think UW thinks he was protecting the Freshmen PG's and bringing them along slowly, but it has fucked up our offense movement, and they likely are thinking WTF is going on.
They get brought in to play lead guard and they get stuck on the wing watching a giraffe trip over himself and cough it up.
Curbelo is having a perfectly good season for a junior lead guard on a lower P5 team. He's not making us any better this year. The only thing that changes is he absorbs like 3 of our turnovers and siphons off 2-8 from 3.
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How convenient 😂
More like inconvenient. I didn't watch the UVA, Cuse, TX games either.
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More like inconvenient. I didn't watch the UVA, Cuse, TX games either.
Most of the Syracuse game was unwatchable.
The others were good.
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All true. The PSU loss was a collective unacceptable mental breakdown, but they can light you up at times and is a possible NCAA team.
Mizzou is not very good, and cannot guard an empty chair.
Lol 😂 good call dumbass