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General Category => The Deuce => Topic started by: Custard on December 02, 2022, 05:55:37 PM
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Sooooo this is happening:
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394
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Sooooo this is happening:
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394
Should I get the 'both parties had access to the Twitter' out of the way ?
Lol.
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Sooooo this is happening:
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394
What do you think is happening here?
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On another front; wing nut version of events: Child porn was being shared openly and nothing was being done about it. Elon Musk put a stop to it simply by banning pedo accounts associated with a few offending hash tags.
Meanwhile, Musk has actually gutted the staff handling child porn.
From what I gather, it's been an ongoing issue. Twitter's outdated automated monitoring software can't distinguish permitted adult material from child porn. Banning accounts tends to be whack- a-mole. So it's hands on and requires staff.
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"You raise up your head and you ask, "Is this where it is?"
And somebody points to you and says, 'It's his'
And you say, 'What's mine?' and somebody else says, 'Well, what is?'
And you say, 'Oh my God, am I here all alone?:
But something is happening and you don't know what it is
Do you, Mr. Jones?"
-- Bob Dylan
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Nothing to see here. Move along.
Just an honest 'mistake'.
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Sooooo this is happening:
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394
I really don't get how Twitter is thought to be a big deal. How many people are actually on it? It is all circular at this point.
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I really don't get how Twitter is thought to be a big deal. How many people are actually on it? It is all circular at this point.
How about the 1st Amendment ?
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How about the 1st Amendment ?
Has zero to do with Twitter, Facebook, Instastupid, TokTik, or what any other privately held company wants on its platform.
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Has zero to do with Twitter, Facebook, Instastupid, TokTik, or what any other privately held company wants on its platform.
Handled.
(https://i.ibb.co/nzBVpXz/Screenshot-20221202-201812-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gc91mZc)
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I really don't get how Twitter is thought to be a big deal. How many people are actually on it? It is all circular at this point.
Only about 450 million.
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How about the 1st Amendment ?
You have zero understanding of your constitutional rights.
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Sooooo this is happening:
https://twitter.com/mtaibbi/status/1598822959866683394
Whenever somebody starts with "what you are about to read" I know it's going to be terrible. After a few minutes you realize you really don't give a fuck.
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Handled.
(https://i.ibb.co/nzBVpXz/Screenshot-20221202-201812-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Gc91mZc)
Like this is Custard's board, they can do whatever they want. 1st Amendment is wholly irrelevant.
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Only about 450 million.
Oh bullshit, unless you are counting all the bots.
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I remember when I really liked Taibbi.
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People didn't like it so they started their own. Good for them.
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I remember when I really liked Taibbi.
Never read him to know what the deal is.
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I remember when I really liked Taibbi.
I think a lot of these types have decided that feeding bs to conservatives is easier than doing actual work.
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How about the 1st Amendment ?
You mean the one that reads "Congress shall make no law ... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press ...
The people running Twitter were exercising their first amendment rights. Their critics were exercising theirs. Musk is exercising his. Musk's critics are exercising theirs. It seems as if the process is working.
My bigger concerns are:
1. insurance companies out there engaging in deceptive advertising to sell Medicare advantage. As a subset, deceptive advertising in general.
2. Politicians running for office spreading disinformation under the pretext of free political speech. Rather than censorship, I would limit the time for campaigns.
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MAGA seems to be obsessed with Hunter Biden dick pics.
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I don’t think that’s what this is about whatsoever
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10% for the Big Guy meant 10% for Hunter's dick ?
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I don’t think that’s what this is about whatsoever
Whatever it is about, the 1st Amendment is not it.
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Big guy may have been some Chinese businessman?
Didn't this failed business venture supposedly take place while Biden was out of office?
Did Twitter prevent NY Post from running their story?
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Whatever it is about, the 1st Amendment is not it.
What if the government is involved ?
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What if the government is involved ?
Unless there is a government order forcing them not to publish, still isn't. If there is a request, as happens with lamestream media all the time, it isn't implicated.
Wasn't this about Hunter's laptop? Trump was in office, so how was "the government" involved? The DNC, Biden campaign, and Biden himself (he was out of office), were not "the government."
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I really don't get how Twitter is thought to be a big deal. How many people are actually on it? It is all circular at this point.
I shut my account down 2 weeks ago. Feel a lot cleaner.
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I shut my account down 2 weeks ago. Feel a lot cleaner.
you really showed him!
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Unless there is a government order forcing them not to publish, still isn't. If there is a request, as happens with lamestream media all the time, it isn't implicated.
Wasn't this about Hunter's laptop? Trump was in office, so how was "the government" involved? The DNC, Biden campaign, and Biden himself (he was out of office), were not "the government."
Twitter had weekly meetings with federal law enforcement agencies and Yoel Roth stated "these meetings that there were rumors that a hack-and-leak operation would involve Hunter
Biden. "
The FBI did go to Facebook.
Federal law enforcement agencies suppressed the laptop internally before Oct 2020. The FBI had the laptop since fall of 2019. Yet in Oct 2020 the federal law enforcement agencies are telling Twitter about rumours of a "hack and leak" regarding Hunter Biden.
"Trump was in office, so how was "the government" involved?"
The government ran a Russia hoax disinformation campaign while Trump was in office.
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The government ran a Russia hoax disinformation campaign while Trump was in office.
That is nothing but tired deceptive spin from the Trump / Republican political playbook.
It is also part of the unproven Trump defense; that the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 was a hoax perpetrated by the Clinton campaign. This is the sort of claim criminals often make: They was framed.
You can look it up. Compare Mueller's results with Durham's.
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Twitter had weekly meetings with federal law enforcement agencies and Yoel Roth stated "these meetings that there were rumors that a hack-and-leak operation would involve Hunter
Biden. "
The FBI did go to Facebook.
Federal law enforcement agencies suppressed the laptop internally before Oct 2020. The FBI had the laptop since fall of 2019. Yet in Oct 2020 the federal law enforcement agencies are telling Twitter about rumours of a "hack and leak" regarding Hunter Biden.
"Trump was in office, so how was "the government" involved?"
The government ran a Russia hoax disinformation campaign while Trump was in office.
I still don't see the government ordering anyone not to print anything. That is what the 1st Amendment prevents.
We only know that the government obstructed the government that was investigating the Soviet Trump Alliance (which began because of information provided by the Trump Campaign). You are nonetheless free to believe the Soviets and their agents in the Trump Campaign were only talking about the adoption of Russian kids in Trump Towers. Completely believable.
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I still don't see the government ordering anyone not to print anything. That is what the 1st Amendment prevents.
We only know that the government obstructed the government that was investigating the Soviet Trump Alliance (which began because of information provided by the Trump Campaign). You are nonetheless free to believe the Soviets and their agents in the Trump Campaign were only talking about the adoption of Russian kids in Trump Towers. Completely believable.
Ro Khanna to Vijaya Gadde "but this seems a violation of the 1st Amendment principles".
Gadde was Twitter general counsel.
I assume there is more to come, as well as much the public will never know.
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Ro Khanna to Vijaya Gadde "but this seems a violation of the 1st Amendment principles".
Gadde was Twitter general counsel.
I assume there is more to come, as well as much the public will never know.
One would think a guy who went to Yale would know better, but there are plenty of Ivy League law school grads who seemingly can't litigate their way out of a wet paper bag.
Musk has access to all the records now. He can publish, or have others publish, whatever he wants.
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iirc, Ro Khanna was the only Dem Taibbi could find who thought this involved first amendment issues.
Still, some others seems to be missing the point as well.
For instance, saying free speech is relative; questioning the right to spread disinformation.
The people have the freedom of speech, limited by slander, libel, copyrights, and certain kinds of incitement.
The press have the freedom to publish said speech or not.
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Hunter Biden's real error was not running for Senate and just yelling "Them Republicans are getting desperate, they will lie about anything because they want this seat"
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Hunter Biden's real error was not running for Senate and just yelling "Them Republicans are getting desperate, they will lie about anything because they want this seat"
It looks like he has made 90 mistakes bigger than that.
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It looks like he has made 90 mistakes bigger than that.
I would say one thing.
Other than that, it's dubious he did anything that the Trump Crime Family hasn't done on steroids.
It is still difficult to believe he was stupid enough to drop off that lap top and never bother to retrieve it.
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I would say one thing.
Other than that, it's dubious he did anything that the Trump Crime Family hasn't done on steroids.
It is still difficult to believe he was stupid enough to drop off that lap top and never bother to retrieve it.
So you’ve expressed that you don’t like whataboutism, then resort to whataboutism. Liberal motto: do as I say, not as I do. Typical and would expect nothing less from you.
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It looks like he has made 90 mistakes bigger than that.
I forgot you don't get irony. Autism speaks.
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So you’ve expressed that you don’t like whataboutism, then resort to whataboutism. Liberal motto: do as I say, not as I do. Typical and would expect nothing less from you.
Context is not your strong suit is it? Murph ironically suggested if Hunter ran for office he could use the Trump defense that his opponents were resorting to desperation tactics investigating the lap top.
PAM suggests he made a lot of worse mistakes.
I am saying he made one huge mistake. He basically did the equivalent of a murderer dropping a smoking gun off at a repair shop then never picking it up.
The rest of his alleged mistakes, like supposedly engaging in joint ventures with Chinese business men, while Joe was not in office, sound a lot like the exact same sort of thing the Trumps did while Trump was in office. I am told there was nothing wrong with the latter. Does not look good though.
If you are going to tell me what the Trump family did was okay, but when the Biden family did the same kind of thing, it was a crime, my pointing out that duplicity or double standard is not whataboutism.
When it looks like Trump ripped off a charity, committed bank fraud, and cheated on his taxes, and the defense is what about her emails; that is whataboutism.
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In general, when I refer to whataboutism, I mean the attempt to create a false diversion, raise a red herring, make a mountain out of a mole hill, create a false equivalence, and so on, in order to distract attention.
Pointing out actual hypocrisy or a double standard can be a valid counter argument. If that is whataboutism, I have no objection to that use.
Note that does not justify dishonestly smearing an accuser.
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There are plenty of people who don’t agree with Trumpism and also don’t like what Biden brings to the table, but any time anything is said about Biden the automatic response is “something something Trump”
The dude hasn’t been president in almost 2 full calendar years and we can’t even be objectively critical of the zombie-in-chief without having a full-on referendum on Donald Trump.
The current state of politics in the US is an absolute joke.
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"We dislike Biden so much, we pettily focus on his speaking difficulties, sometimes strange behavior, clear lapses of memory, and other personal flaws. Our aversion to him and his policies makes us underestimate him and the Democrats."
https://www.gingrich360.com/2022/11/30/quit-underestimating-president-biden/
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Context is not your strong suit is it? Murph ironically suggested if Hunter ran for office he could use the Trump defense that his opponents were resorting to desperation tactics investigating the lap top.
Well, the Herschel Walker defense but yet
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There are plenty of people who don’t agree with Trumpism and also don’t like what Biden brings to the table, but any time anything is said about Biden the automatic response is “something something Trump”
The dude hasn’t been president in almost 2 full calendar years and we can’t even be objectively critical of the zombie-in-chief without having a full-on referendum on Donald Trump.
The current state of politics in the US is an absolute joke.
The thing for me is, this Hunter Biden stuff is just a big nothing burger. The kid is so incompetent that it's hard to consider him some sort of puppet master or corrupt overlord. This laptop story is so odd it strains credulity, like "he did what? and some random dude in delaware scraped off the contents of his hard drive what?"
Garden variety stuff, adding up to not much of anything. He's Lester Diamond. Who should probably go to jail but is just a sad story of incompetence combined with excess.
The Trumps however have done things that could cause some real problems that could impact all of us, I mean, sure Eric and Donald Jr seem like bumbling nincompoops, but they have had the means at their disposal to lever that bumbling nicompoopiness into real problems. Hunter Biden wasn't pulling any puppet strings ordering people to storm the capitol. He's just a sad story.
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Summary:
Everything involving the Bidens is simply alleged. Hunter was a just a tax evading drug addict who needed help. Joe had nothing to do with it, which he has said many times. Stop with all of the conspiracy theories and leave the Bidens alone.
Everything involving the Trumps is not only alleged, but also true. Lock em all up.
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Summary:
Everything involving the Bidens is simply alleged. Hunter was a just a tax evading drug addict who needed help. Joe had nothing to do with it, which he has said many times. Stop with all of the conspiracy theories and leave the Bidens alone.
Everything involving the Trumps is not only alleged, but also true. Lock em all up.
There is a grand jury re Hunter. Appears to be about taxes. Won't know for sure until they are done.
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"Some readers may be inclined to dismiss this as merely an indictment of a troubled son. They might ask themselves what conclusions they would draw if this were about, say, Eric Trump. Some readers will also think it isn’t the president’s job to police his adult son. But it is his job to ensure that Hunter and other relatives don’t profit by trading on his position in government.
That would be corruption."
Bret Stephens, the NY Times
This was based on the Big Guy email. Apparently it was a failed business venture that never got off the ground while Biden was neither VP nor running for President.
I would not be stunned to hear Hunter was trading on his father's name. I believe It is relevant to point out that the Trump family blatantly and openly monetized the White House. We were told that was perfectly legal Capitalism; that they were allowed to run their businesses.
What we do know is Hunter failed to pay some of his taxes in a timely manner. When confronted, he admitted it and paid back taxes. In those cases, charges for tax evasion are seldom pursued.
It is also possible he should have registered as a foreign agent. Proving he intentionally evaded FARA laws is another matter.
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Summary:
Everything involving the Bidens is simply alleged. Hunter was a just a tax evading drug addict who needed help. Joe had nothing to do with it, which he has said many times. Stop with all of the conspiracy theories and leave the Bidens alone.
Everything involving the Trumps is not only alleged, but also true. Lock em all up.
😂 Exactly, I was just getting ready to post this after Murph’s post. Like what the fuck?! It’s quite astonishing!
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There are plenty of people who don’t agree with Trumpism and also don’t like what Biden brings to the table, but any time anything is said about Biden the automatic response is “something something Trump”
The dude hasn’t been president in almost 2 full calendar years and we can’t even be objectively critical of the zombie-in-chief without having a full-on referendum on Donald Trump.
The current state of politics in the US is an absolute joke.
If you you’re looking to be “objectively” critical of Slow Joe’s policies and programs, by all means proceed. We even have a thread devoted to that topic. However, I would suggest you avoid posting links to the bs that Elon and others are peddling on the Hunter Biden laptop story.
The Twitter Files are just a preview of what the House assclowns will be doing starting in Jan…if they can manage to elect a Speaker.
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😂 Exactly, I was just getting ready to post this after Murph’s post. Like what the fuck?! It’s quite astonishing!
Was the deal that fell thru the 10% for The Big Guy deal that was made when Joe was VP, with payments delayed until after he left office ?
No harm, no foul.
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Was the deal that fell thru the 10% for The Big Guy deal that was made when Joe was VP, with payments delayed until after he left office ?
No harm, no foul.
Not sure laptops last that long!
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Not sure laptops last that long!
I heard from reliable sources that Hunter's laptop was running Windows ME.
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Was the deal that fell thru the 10% for The Big Guy deal that was made when Joe was VP, with payments delayed until after he left office ?
No harm, no foul.
SinoHawk Holdings LLC. The company was incorporated in Delaware in May 2017. Take all the time you need.
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That's what I want to see!
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Summary:
Everything involving the Bidens is simply alleged. Hunter was a just a tax evading drug addict who needed help. Joe had nothing to do with it, which he has said many times. Stop with all of the conspiracy theories and leave the Bidens alone.
Everything involving the Trumps is not only alleged, but also true. Lock em all up.
Tax evading drug addicts go to jail. Drug addiction may or may not have an illegal component to it, for example if you are an alcoholic, that's not illegal, fentanyl and oxycodone are legal albeit controlled. But tax evasion is illegal. So ok, you go to jail for evading taxes, so what. If I were given the opportunity to send both "Tax Evader Hunter Biden" and "Tax Evader Donald Trump" to jail, sign me up, put em in and throw away the key.
But tax evasion, especially on the Hunter Biden scale, isn't THAT big a deal. Ron DeSantis is Governor of Florida. In his state you will find numerous casinos with slot machines that have jackpots of $1199 with a sign that says "IRS SPECIAL". The patrons will tell you "it's $1199, so it's under $1200 so you don't have to pay taxes!" which is patently not true. It's just that the casino doesn't *report* the win to the IRS - it's organized tax fraud. I pay my gardener in cash, he presumably isn't paying taxes on that money. So what. In theory if you find $20 on the sidewalk, that's income, and taxable.
At Trump's scale, it becomes a lot more sketchy, but really when the finger is pointed at the Trumps, it's based on levels of corruption and self dealing that are really hard to just brush off.
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Oh I see. It’s not whether it’s proven or alleged, it’s the perceived scale of the crimes. But also who it is.
And of course Murph couldn’t go without mentioning the devil incarnate Ron DeSantis…and the perfectly legal slot machines in his state. It’s the responsibility of the people to report their winnings, same as about every other thing that isn’t a W2.
You assume your gardener isn’t paying taxes on the cash you pay him and seem to be completely cool with that, but someone wins $1199 at a casino and doesn’t claim it and it’s organized tax fraud. Okie dokie…like paying landscapers and handymen cash under the table doesn’t go on, all over the country, day in and day out, since forever.
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If you you’re looking to be “objectively” critical of Slow Joe’s policies and programs, by all means proceed. We even have a thread devoted to that topic. However, I would suggest you avoid posting links to the bs that Elon and others are peddling on the Hunter Biden laptop story.
The Twitter Files are just a preview of what the House assclowns will be doing starting in Jan…if they can manage to elect a Speaker.
I don’t think this is about Hunter Biden’s laptop at all. The laptop is just the vehicle.
They’re holding a mirror up to the hypocrites who screamed bloody murder about social media interference during the 2016 election and then turned around and interfered with the 2020 election via social media.
It’s probably a hard pill to swallow.
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I don’t think this is about Hunter Biden’s laptop at all. The laptop is just the vehicle.
They’re holding a mirror up to the hypocrites who screamed bloody murder about social media interference during the 2016 election and then turned around and interfered with the 2020 election via social media.
It’s probably a hard pill to swallow.
"Social media interference" is an interesting turn of a phrase.
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In 2016, the social media did little to nothing to inhibit the flow of Russian bot disinformation. For that they caught a lot of crap. In 2020, they were more careful, including approaching the Hunter lap top with caution.
NY Post pushed it aggressively. Fox and WSJ threw a little cold water on the Big Guy story.
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In 2016, the social media did little to nothing to inhibit the flow of Russian bot disinformation. For that they caught a lot of crap. In 2020, they were more careful, including approaching the Hunter lap top with caution.
NY Post, Moony Times and a few others pushed it aggressively. Fox and WSJ threw a little cold water on the Big Guy story.
I remember reading at the time about the fact that The Twitter was throttling the story.
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"Social media interference" is an interesting turn of a phrase.
In 2016, Russia used Social Media to influence the election. In 2020, Twitter tried to prevent that to some extent. Musk is saying the latter amounted to Twitter interfering in the election. It is absurd on its face.
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I don’t think this is about Hunter Biden’s laptop at all. The laptop is just the vehicle.
They’re holding a mirror up to the hypocrites who screamed bloody murder about social media interference during the 2016 election and then turned around and interfered with the 2020 election via social media.
It’s probably a hard pill to swallow.
Nice, detailed analysis of the nothingburger here.
https://grossman.arcdigital.media/p/another-hyped-hunter-biden-laptop?fbclid=IwAR0klZD_enBfOvgRz0RIwHcsdgL0hQnh0GjwfPjMg0bOQjr2_RBC_Eb6JWI
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Nice, detailed analysis of the nothingburger here.
https://grossman.arcdigital.media/p/another-hyped-hunter-biden-laptop?fbclid=IwAR0klZD_enBfOvgRz0RIwHcsdgL0hQnh0GjwfPjMg0bOQjr2_RBC_Eb6JWI
I found that interesting. If it is correct in its analysis of the info dumped, it certainly undercuts the arguments posited here, and elsewhere.
Not sure I buy the argument though about Biden having someone flag the nude photos sounding more like a concerned parent, but I get the gist that the pictures violated The Twitter ToS.
This, and whatever the shitheads running The Facebook, TikTok, InstaStupid, may have done, appears to be a higher profile version of Custard banning JJ for 30 minutes because he didn't like him making a new Bear thread.
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In 2016, Russia used Social Media to influence the election. In 2020, Twitter tried to prevent that to some extent. Musk is saying the latter amounted to Twitter interfering in the election. It is absurd on its face.
Suppressing news stories relevant to election, just prior to election…supporting the party that Twitter overwhelmingly sided with for years…big nothingburger. Absurd on its face!
Lol ok
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Suppressing news stories relevant to election, just prior to election…supporting the party that Twitter overwhelmingly sided with for years…big nothingburger. Absurd on its face!
Lol ok
You are really giving Twitter a lot more credit than it deserves. They aren't at SBF level of generalized incompetence, but they aren't puppet masters either. I used to ride bikes with some of these guys - some great coders but not exactly a brain trust.
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The FBI had the laptop in Dec 2019.
Everyone with gray matter should know damn well that the world's premier intelligence agency knew the laptop was real.
The FBI went to Twitter, Facebook and Google telling them about a Hunter Biden hack and leak the weeks before the 2020 election.
Oct 20, 51 former Intelligence individuals penned a letter saying everything had the hallmarks of Russian disinfo.
FBI Whistleblowers will say that they were told in Aug 2020 that the laptop was off limits and not to be discussed.
Social media companies, main stream media and 51 former Intelligence employees all got the idea that the laptop was Russian disinfo somehow some way. Gee, I wonder how.
If you want to believe that the FBI, who had the laptop for close to a year by the 2020 election, had no idea that the laptop was authentic it's your perogative.
It's still a free country.
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In 2016, Russia used Social Media to influence the election. In 2020, Twitter tried to prevent that to some extent. Musk is saying the latter amounted to Twitter interfering in the election. It is absurd on its face.
On the surface, I guess I can see how you make that argument but, looking at that article not sure it withstands scrutiny. Was the Twitter biased? Undoubtedly. But that is its right. For better or for worse. Was it gun shy after allowong the Soviets to run amuck in 2016? Probably a little of that too. Not sure it is gun shy after allowing the Commies to throttle the Chinese internal riots by apparently flooding The Twitter with porn.
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Suppressing news stories relevant to election, just prior to election…supporting the party that Twitter overwhelmingly sided with for years…big nothingburger. Absurd on its face!
Lol ok
It is a company. It can do whatever the fuck it wants in this regard. It was Citizen United in action.
If you are going to claim it is a utility, well, get ready to be called a socialist.
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The FBI had the laptop in Dec 2019.
Everyone with gray matter should know damn well that the world's premier intelligence agency knew the laptop was real.
The FBI went to Twitter, Facebook and Google telling them about a Hunter Biden hack and leak the weeks before the 2020 election.
Oct 20, 51 former Intelligence individuals penned a letter saying everything had the hallmarks of Russian disinfo.
FBI Whistleblowers will say that they were told in Aug 2020 that the laptop was off limits and not to be discussed.
Social media companies, main stream media and 51 former Intelligence employees all got the idea that the laptop was Russian disinfo somehow some way. Gee, I wonder how.
If you want to believe that the FBI, who had the laptop for close to a year by the 2020 election, had no idea that the laptop was authentic it's your perogative.
It's still a free country.
Ok. Alum's article claims the FBI etc. went to the social media companies generally warning about possible misinformation campaigns months before the laptop story. Did they later make specific claims about the laptop? I don't know. If so, they were apparently not part of this document dump.
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At the end of the day, the laptop story, and The Twitter throttling the Post story, was out there. Given who is actually on The Twitter (as opposed to The Facebook, TokTik, etc.), did those people really not know about the laptop story?
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Ok. Alum's article claims the FBI etc. went to the social media companies generally warning about possible misinformation campaigns months before the laptop story. Did they later make specific claims about the laptop? I don't know. If so, they were apparently not part of this document dump.
The FBI meetings with Twitter etc were in the weeks before the NYP column, and court documents mention being told of a hack and leak and Hunter Biden.
The FBI had the laptop in Dec 2019.
Did surveillance of Giuliani's emails let the FBI know about when the laptop story would be released ?
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The FBI had the laptop in Dec 2019.
Everyone with gray matter should know damn well that the world's premier intelligence agency knew the laptop was real.
The FBI went to Twitter, Facebook and Google telling them about a Hunter Biden hack and leak the weeks before the 2020 election.
Oct 20, 51 former Intelligence individuals penned a letter saying everything had the hallmarks of Russian disinfo.
FBI Whistleblowers will say that they were told in Aug 2020 that the laptop was off limits and not to be discussed.
Social media companies, main stream media and 51 former Intelligence employees all got the idea that the laptop was Russian disinfo somehow some way. Gee, I wonder how.
If you want to believe that the FBI, who had the laptop for close to a year by the 2020 election, had no idea that the laptop was authentic it's your perogative.
It's still a free country.
remind me where you live i need to open a tin foil hat company
"The laptop was real!"
I am typing on a real laptop right now. Call the cops.
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Suppressing news stories relevant to election, just prior to election…supporting the party that Twitter overwhelmingly sided with for years…big nothingburger. Absurd on its face!
Lol ok
So .. this story was published ... in the NEW YORK POST. That's a pretty big outlet.
What the hell did we do back in oh say, 2004. Stories were printed in the New York Post but they were suppressed because the secret elite cabal kept it from being shared on Twitter, which didn't exist!
And if everyone who is on Twitter is an elite liberal scumbag who doesn't believe in the REAL LAPTOP or doesn't care, then exactly what did this SUPPRESSION cause, given that all of the people on Twitter are biased and would just ignore the story they were seeing in their twitter feeds?
What's really great about this is when you see Jordan Klepper ask these people about it at the rallies and they say "This was suppressed by Twitter" and he says "What's your twitter handle, I want to follow you" and they say "I don't have a Twitter account"
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The FBI meetings with Twitter etc were in the weeks before the NYP column, and court documents mention being told of a hack and leak and Hunter Biden.
The FBI had the laptop in Dec 2019.
Did surveillance of Giuliani's emails let the FBI know about when the laptop story would be released ?
What court documents? Is that in the Twitter docs? It sounds like the Feds made the rounds to all the Silicone Valley entities to warn them generally.
I don't know what info the FBI had. I suppose they had info that Trump Campaign members were meeting with Soviets and non-Soviets in The Ukraine. That was public knowledge at the time it was happening.
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Nice, detailed analysis of the nothingburger here.
https://grossman.arcdigital.media/p/another-hyped-hunter-biden-laptop?fbclid=IwAR0klZD_enBfOvgRz0RIwHcsdgL0hQnh0GjwfPjMg0bOQjr2_RBC_Eb6JWI
"Suspecting that the “Hunter Biden laptop” may have contained hacked material was reasonable in October 2020 when the story broke, and still is."
Hogwash.
It's my understanding that the Hunter pics were relayed to Twitter by "the Biden team", not the Biden campaign.
It's possible that the Biden team was Hunter's lawyers.
There is no reference to government "ordering", so it didn't happen. That's rich. Of course they weren't "ordered" in black and white.
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Suppressing news stories relevant to election, just prior to election…supporting the party that Twitter overwhelmingly sided with for years…big nothingburger. Absurd on its face!
Lol ok
Suppressing news stories relevant to election = trying to sort out if the Post story contained hacked materials or violated an established company policy. If you want to disagree with management’s decision at the time, that’s fine. There’s a new sheriff in town. But it is not a political scandal or outrage of any sorts.
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"Suspecting that the “Hunter Biden laptop” may have contained hacked material was reasonable in October 2020 when the story broke, and still is."
Hogwash.
It's my understanding that the Hunter pics were relayed to Twitter by "the Biden team", not the Biden campaign.
It's possible that the Biden team was Hunter's lawyers.
There is no reference to government "ordering", so it didn't happen. That's rich. Of course they weren't "ordered" in black and white.
Good luck with that.
If only the guy who was shopping the laptop story had made the hard drive available to reporters in the first place, we could have put this long, onerous national nightmare behind us.
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What court documents? Is that in the Twitter docs? It sounds like the Feds made the rounds to all the Silicone Valley entities to warn them generally.
I don't know what info the FBI had. I suppose they had info that Trump Campaign members were meeting with Soviets and non-Soviets in The Ukraine. That was public knowledge at the time it was happening.
The La-Mo AG suit alleging the Biden administration with colluding to censor. The one where Psaki is fighting her deposition because she's just too busy. Lol.
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"Suspecting that the “Hunter Biden laptop” may have contained hacked material was reasonable in October 2020 when the story broke, and still is."
Hogwash.
It's my understanding that the Hunter pics were relayed to Twitter by "the Biden team", not the Biden campaign.
It's possible that the Biden team was Hunter's lawyers.
There is no reference to government "ordering", so it didn't happen. That's rich. Of course they weren't "ordered" in black and white.
How is the Biden team different from the Biden campaign? Hunter's lawyers would make far more sense.
If they would have "ordered" them, I would think even The Twitter's lawyers would know the order was illegal under the First Amendment What was "the government" going to do if they didn't stop it? Seek an injunction that everyone knows would fail? C'mon....
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Good luck with that.
If only the guy who was shopping the laptop story in the first place had made the hard drive available to reporters, we could put this long, onerous national nightmare behind us.
The repair shop owner contacted the FBI, not news outlets, about the laptop. The FBI buried it.
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The La-Mo AG suit alleging the Biden administration with colluding to censor. The one where Psaki is fighting her deposition because she's just too busy. Lol.
Why do I have the feeling you are going to be let down once again by another one of these GOP lawsuits?
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The repair shop owner contacted the FBI, not news outlets, about the laptop. The FBI buried it.
I'm talking about Rudy.
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How is the Biden team different from the Biden campaign? Hunter's lawyers would make far more sense.
If they would have "ordered" them, I would think even The Twitter's lawyers would know the order was illegal under the First Amendment What was "the government" going to do if they didn't stop it? Seek an injunction that everyone knows would fail? C'mon....
The communication from 'the Biden team' lists 5 or so Twitter accts. It doesn't mention what those accts posted. I've read that those were referencing the pics. People equating team to campaign may be making an assumption with no basis.
I would think that nobody is going to put an order in black and white over anything like this. If I, as an FBI employee, say to you that I have information that a hack and leak re Hunter Biden may occur and to treat it as such, do you need an order in black and white ?
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Why do I have the feeling you are going to be let down once again by another one of these GOP lawsuits?
I'm fully aware that may very well happen. Just like McConnell, McCarthy and McFailure won't do anything in the new Congress.
Doesn't mean that I should ignore it.
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The communication from 'the Biden team' lists 5 or so Twitter accts. It doesn't mention what those accts posted. I've read that those were referencing the pics. People equating team to campaign may be making an assumption with no basis.
I would think that nobody is going to put an order in black and white over anything like this. If I, as an FBI employee, say to you that I have information that a hack and leak re Hunter Biden may occur and to treat it as such, do you need an order in black and white ?
I would think they would think they were full of crap, personally.
Besides the tech companies, did they say this to media companies like NYPost, NYT, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc.?
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I'm fully aware that may very well happen. Just like McConnell, McCarthy and McFailure won't do anything in the new Congress.
Doesn't mean that I should ignore it.
At some point you might, I'm sorry to say, consider you are being played by politicians following the Trump Sue First playbook.
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I would think they would think they were full of crap, personally.
Besides the tech companies, did they say this to media companies like NYPost, NYT, CBS, NBC, ABC, etc.?
You mean like an FBI leak ? Oh, no. Not a chance. Lol.
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You mean like an FBI leak ? Oh, no. Not a chance. Lol.
No, did the FBI go to actual media companies running interference for the Biden campaign like they did the tech companies?
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No, did the FBI go to actual media companies running interference for the Biden campaign like they did the tech companies?
I haven't seen it mentioned.
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I haven't seen it mentioned.
Why would they go to the tech companies to run interference but not the actual media companies?
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Suppressing news stories relevant to election, just prior to election…supporting the party that Twitter overwhelmingly sided with for years…big nothingburger. Absurd on its face!
Lol ok
Fox News and WSJ passed on the story because they couldn't verify it. Just as I suspected, the bulk of the content remains unauthenticated to this day.
Guilliani and Tony Bobulinski had been peddling some of it before the lap top surfaced.
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Why would they go to the tech companies to run interference but not the actual media companies?
Maybe they did go to media, and that's why nobody would touch it. Don't know.
But the media companies aren't going to release internal communications for the hell of it like the new owner of Twitter is doing.
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Maybe they did go to media, and that's why nobody would touch it. Don't know.
But the media companies aren't going to release internal communications for the hell of it like the new owner of Twitter is doing.
Wouldn't Fox News, NYPost, Washington Examiner be all over it if it happened? Seems really odd.
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Wouldn't Fox News, NYPost, Washington Examiner be all over it if it happened? Seems really odd.
Maybe this was the proof Tucker Carlson had that mysteriously vanished?
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Wouldn't Fox News, NYPost, Washington Examiner be all over it if it happened? Seems really odd.
The NYPost did write about it, and was promptly quieted by Twitter. Maybe Fox and WashEx didn't want the same to happen to them.
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The NYPost did write about it, and was promptly quieted by Twitter. Maybe Fox and WashEx didn't want the same to happen to them.
I'm talking about if the Feds were running interference for the Biden campaign. Seems odd that the Feds would do that at the tech companies, but not the actual media companies. If they actually ran interference at the media companies, you think someone would have reported that at the time.
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Maybe this was the proof Tucker Carlson had that mysteriously vanished?
I am sure he would be all over it if the Feds were running interference for the Biden Campaign with Media companies.
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This is interesting;
'The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Fox News, and other media outlets passed on the story, because they investigated and couldn’t verify it.'
"Multiple New York Post reporters turned it down too, for the same reason. The Post eventually ran it under the bylines of Gabrielle Fonrouge and Emma-Jo Morris. Fonrouge, a Post reporter since 2014, had little to do with the story and learned her name was on it only after it was published. Morris, who previously worked as an associate producer for Sean Hannity at Fox, was the Post’s deputy politics editor and it was her first byline. She wrote eleven New York Post stories, all but one of which are about Hunter Biden, and is now politics editor at Breitbart."
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I'm talking about if the Feds were running interference for the Biden campaign. Seems odd that the Feds would do that at the tech companies, but not the actual media companies. If they actually ran interference at the media companies, you think someone would have reported that at the time.
If the FBI had access to Giuliani's emails, they can try to determine their most effective interference plan. Maybe they knew he was having trouble getting WaPo or whoever to go with the story.
Nonetheless, what media company did or didn't cover the laptop story isn't the issue.
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The NYPost did write about it, and was promptly quieted by Twitter. Maybe Fox and WashEx didn't want the same to happen to them.
Or maybe Fox and WashEx passed because the whole thing looked like a ratfuck.
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If the FBI had access to Giuliani's emails, they can try to determine their most effective interference plan. Maybe they knew he was having trouble getting WaPo or whoever to go with the story.
That seems like even more of a stretch, Mn. Based on what you are saying, if Guiliani's emails showed the NY Post was proceeding, wouldn't they then go muscle the NY Post?
I hear what you are saying, but it just seems to fall apart as there is nothing indicating that they went to the people who would be the ones actually reporting the story they are allegedly trying to squash.
Wouldn't more people actually see the article mentioned on The Drudge Report? Maybe I'm projecting, as that is where I saw it linked at the time.
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Or maybe Fox and WashEx passed because the whole thing looked like a ratfuck.
It is a ratfuck, and that's why it had to be labeled as Russian disinfo.
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Or maybe Fox and WashEx passed because the whole thing looked like a ratfuck.
The notion that Fox was scared off a Biden story because of the Feds is tough to believe. Or that Fox was scared off because Twitter would ban it when the Post is a Murdoch paper.
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That seems like even more of a stretch, Mn. Based on what you are saying, if Guiliani's emails showed the NY Post was proceeding, wouldn't they then go muscle the NY Post?
I hear what you are saying, but it just seems to fall apart as there is nothing indicating that they went to the people who would be the ones actually reporting the story they are allegedly trying to squash.
Wouldn't more people actually see the article mentioned on The Drudge Report? Maybe I'm projecting, as that is where I saw it linked at the time.
What happened is more important than why didn't this happen instead.
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The notion that Fox was scared off a Biden story because of the Feds is tough to believe. Or that Fox was scared off because Twitter would ban it when the Post is a Murdoch paper.
This is quite a conundrum. I think Garland should hire John Durham to investigate.
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What happened is more important than why didn't this happen instead.
Well, there seems to be an issue of what actually happened. That the Feds were running interference to kill THIS story by going only to the tech companies does not make much sense. The Feds would need to go to the media companies that would be the ones actually reporting the story. If that had occured, that would have gotten out and been reported on as well given that Trump's battles with the FBI was virtually a daily story.
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Well, there seems to be an issue of what actually happened. That the Feds were running interference to kill THIS story by going only to the tech companies does not make much sense. The Feds would need to go to the media companies that would be the ones actually reporting the story. If that had occured, that would have gotten out and been reported on as well given that Trump's battles with the FBI was virtually a daily story.
All I know is that Twitter's Head of Site Integrity said they were warned of hack and leak possibilities and that one would probably occur in Oct 2020 and that there were rumours that a hack and leak may involve Hunter Biden.
That's my story.
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All I know is that Twitter's Head of Site Integrity said they were warned of hack and leak possibilities and that one would probably occur in Oct 2020 and that there were rumours that a hack and leak may involve Hunter Biden.
That's my story.
Is there a document that lays this out?
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Is there a document that lays this out?
From his document before the FEC, obtained as a result of a lawsuit.
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This is interesting;
'The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Fox News, and other media outlets passed on the story, because they investigated and couldn’t verify it.'
"Multiple New York Post reporters turned it down too, for the same reason. The Post eventually ran it under the bylines of Gabrielle Fonrouge and Emma-Jo Morris. Fonrouge, a Post reporter since 2014, had little to do with the story and learned her name was on it only after it was published. Morris, who previously worked as an associate producer for Sean Hannity at Fox, was the Post’s deputy politics editor and it was her first byline. She wrote eleven New York Post stories, all but one of which are about Hunter Biden, and is now politics editor at Breitbart."
What's interesting is that they are slowly finding out that nobody really gives a shit about that laptop
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From his document before the FEC, obtained as a result of a lawsuit.
(https://i.ibb.co/SXDJGHG/Screenshot-20221204-210958.jpg) (https://ibb.co/8DnXtGt)
Ok that is at least something. But that is not sounding like an order, implied or otherwise.
I read this: https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/12/03/elon-musk-exposes-inside-story-twitters-crackdown-hunter-biden-laptop-2020-election/
The claims about the election seem far fetched given who is on The Twitter.
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This is sounding more and more that they were trying to fit a round peg in a square hole of their ToS given the unusual facts here.
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Ok that is at least something. But that is not sounding like an order, implied or otherwise.
I read this: https://www.dailysignal.com/2022/12/03/elon-musk-exposes-inside-story-twitters-crackdown-hunter-biden-laptop-2020-election/
The claims about the election seem far fetched given who is on The Twitter.
Tl/dr, but I've probably seen most of it anyway.
There is plenty that nobody has seen. There may or may not be evidence of governmental interference.
Nonetheless, the FBI had the laptop for close to a year and when they found out the story was coming out 3 weeks before a Presidential election, they referred to it as hacked material.
In reaching the decision on how to handle it, Twitter relied on what they had been told. Within hours, the 'hacked' material determination was being questioned internally.
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Tl/dr, but I've probably seen most of it anyway.
There is plenty that nobody has seen. There may or may not be evidence of governmental interference.
Nonetheless, the FBI had the laptop for close to a year and when they found out the story was coming out 3 weeks before a Presidential election, they referred to it as hacked material.
In reaching the decision on how to handle it, Twitter relied on what they had been told. Within hours, the 'hacked' material determination was being questioned internally.
Paragraph 11 reads they had been meeting with the feds "weekly" and there were discussions throughout 2020. Also lays out that it was expected that in October something would happen (makes sense with a November election). But it does not specify which candidate. It also does not say when he heard the rumors about a Biden hack and leak. Hard to tell if everything in that paragraph just relates to Biden or if there were rumors about other candidate family members being hacked as well. Would be interesting to know if the discussions were broader, and if others were mentioned, or if it was all just Biden related.
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All I know is that this crew may have some goofballs but not a single person here that I know of has gotten on the Bitcoin train, so there's that.
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Summary:
Everything involving the Bidens is simply alleged. Hunter was a just a tax evading drug addict who needed help. Joe had nothing to do with it, which he has said many times. Stop with all of the conspiracy theories and leave the Bidens alone.
Everything involving the Trumps is not only alleged, but also true. Lock em all up.
Probably not that far from accurate.
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All this freaking out over Hunter Biden, who probably has a net worth of about $1 million, meanwhile, Jared Kushner gets $2 billion from Saudi Arabia and Ivanka got God knows what from China. Pretty comical.
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bUt wHut aBOuT HUntEr’s LAptOP?!
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bUt wHut aBOuT HUntEr’s LAptOP?!
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Is she investigating it on her own like Quincy, M.E., Jim Rockford, Cannon, or Barnaby Jones would? What's this supposed to mean?
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What's interesting is that they are slowly finding out that nobody really gives a shit about that laptop
That too. Also that the bulk of the data still has not been verified.
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Is she investigating it on her own like Quincy, M.E., Jim Rockford, Cannon, or Barnaby Jones would? What's this supposed to mean?
Tell me you’re 57 without telling me you’re 57.
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Tl/dr, but I've probably seen most of it anyway.
There is plenty that nobody has seen. There may or may not be evidence of governmental interference.
Nonetheless, the FBI had the laptop for close to a year and when they found out the story was coming out 3 weeks before a Presidential election, they referred to it as hacked material.
In reaching the decision on how to handle it, Twitter relied on what they had been told. Within hours, the 'hacked' material determination was being questioned internally.
Let's see what happens now that the lawyer vetting the Twitter documents was terminated, it sounds like, for vetting them. Still not buying Twitter swung the election given its minimal use in the mainstream, but people need shit to whine about when their guy loses like Hillary et al. blaming Comey.
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Let's see what happens now that the lawyer vetting the Twitter documents was terminated, it sounds like, for vetting them. Still not buying Twitter swung the election given its minimal use in the mainstream, but people need shit to whine about when their guy loses like Hillary et al. blaming Comey.
The guy doing the vetting was involved in the Carter Page FISA, witholding evidence from Durham re Sussman and the Twitter suppression of the laptop story.
He resigned from the FBI over a leak investigation.
The laptop suppression also involved Facebook and the Google.
1/2 the country uses social media for news.
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The guy doing the vetting was involved in the Carter Page FISA, witholding evidence from Durham re Sussman and the Twitter suppression of the laptop story.
He resigned from the FBI over a leak investigation.
The laptop suppression also involved Facebook and the Google.
1/2 the country uses social media for news.
Let's explore this a little more closely:
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2021/09/20/news-consumption-across-social-media-in-2021/
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Let's explore this a little more closely:
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2021/09/20/news-consumption-across-social-media-in-2021/
Other than 48%, what does it say ?
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Other than 48%, what does it say ?
It provides more detail, that's all. You don't have to read it.
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Let's explore this a little more closely:
https://www.pewresearch.org/journalism/2021/09/20/news-consumption-across-social-media-in-2021/
Like I said, Twitter is irrelevant to who won the election.
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Lots of people have turned to Twitter specifically to get their news over the past 10-12 years. It’s nonsense to say it’s irrelevant to the election when in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 20xx? Russian bots on Facebook swing the election.
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Lots of people have turned to Twitter specifically to get their news over the past 10-12 years. It’s nonsense to say it’s irrelevant to the election when in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 20xx? Russian bots on Facebook swing the election.
The number of people on the Twitter is not that significant
Plus, I am guessing they are mostly urban/suburban people
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Lots of people have turned to Twitter specifically to get their news over the past 10-12 years. It’s nonsense to say it’s irrelevant to the election when in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 20xx? Russian bots on Facebook swing the election.
#electioninterferencedeniers
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#electioninterferencedeniers
How many persuadable people do you think are on there? It is all people like Tempo and Murph.
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Lots of people have turned to Twitter specifically to get their news over the past 10-12 years. It’s nonsense to say it’s irrelevant to the election when in 2016, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 20xx? Russian bots on Facebook swing the election.
I thought Comey swung the 2016 election....
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The number of people on the Twitter is not that significant
The FBI was going to the Twitter, the Facebook and The Google. That's a lot of people.
Plus the Pew article indicates that all of the shown social media sites have more Democrats than Republicans,
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Plus the Pew article indicates that all of the shown social media sites have more Democrats than Republicans,
Which completely undercuts whatever Custard and you think this all proves re the election.
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The FBI was going to the Twitter, the Facebook and The Google. That's a lot of people.
Define "a lot." I'll take it is not that many in the grand scheme of things and even less of those who are "undecided."
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Which completely undercuts whatever Custard and you think this all proves re the election.
Polls, not worth anything anymore, show 10%+ wouldn't have voted for Biden if they had known more about the laptop. Republicans weren't going to vote for Biden over Trump if they had known more.
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Polls, not worth anything anymore, show 10%+ wouldn't have voted for Biden if they had known more about the laptop. Republicans weren't going to vote for Biden over Trump if they had known more.
What poll? Is it 10% of the 12% of the 25% of adults (there is zero way that 1 in 4 adults are on The Twitter) who are purportedly on The Twitter who allegedly get their news there?
The story was out there. Millions read Drudge and other right wing centric websites where the story was mentioned.
Grasping at straws
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What poll? Is it 10% of the 12% of the 25% of adults (there is zero way that 1 in 4 adults are on The Twitter) who are purportedly on The Twitter who allegedly get their news there?
The story was out there. Millions read Drudge and other right wing centric websites where the story was mentioned.
Grasping at straws
If it was so inconsequential, why was the FBI suppressing it ?
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If it was so inconsequential, why was the FBI suppressing it ?
Haven't seen anything saying that the FBI suppressed it.
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If it was so inconsequential, why was the FBI suppressing it ?
The Twitter is what is inconsequential.
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Haven't seen anything saying that the FBI suppressed it.
Do you get all of your news from the Facebook and the Dorsey Twitter ?
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The FBI was going to the Twitter, the Facebook and The Google. That's a lot of people.
Plus the Pew article indicates that all of the shown social media sites have more Democrats than Republicans,
My impression is the FBI was also briefing Fox News, National Review, Wall Street Journal, AP, CBS, ABC, NBC, WaPo, NYT, and so on about the potential for a repeat of 2016. It is widely reported that the Hunter Biden story peddled by Guilliani did not even meet the journalistic standards of Fox. So the Trump's team effort to sway the election with unverified material from copies of a hard drive that surfaced in October before the election failed, so the right is pixxed and blames left leaning social media. Even though NY post, Drudge, and other right wing media aired the story.
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Do you get all of your news from the Facebook and the Dorsey Twitter ?
Only illinihq2.com.
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My impression is the FBI was also briefing Fox News, National Review, Wall Street Journal, AP, CBS, ABC, NBC, WaPo, NYT, and so on about the potential for a repeat of 2016. It is widely reported that the Hunter Biden story peddled by Guilliani did not even meet the journalistic standards of Fox. So the Trump's team effort to sway the election with unverified material from copies of a hard drive that surfaced in October before the election failed, so the right is pixxed and blames left leaning social media. Even though NY post, Drudge, and other right wing media aired the story.
The only thing that apparently matters these days is The Twitter and The Twitter only.
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If it was so inconsequential, why was the FBI suppressing it ?
They did not specifically suppress a damned thing. The warned the media in general about the potential for release of hacked (and faked?) materials.
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They did not specifically suppress a damned thing. The warned the media in general about the potential for release of hacked (and faked?) materials.
10% of the Twitter Soviet and Chinese bots would have voted for Trump though. That is about 9/10ths of all The Twitter's users per that Musk guy.
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Do you get all of your news from the Facebook and the Dorsey Twitter ?
I get mine from the UPS driver.
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I get mine from the UPS driver.
Was s/he wearing shorts?
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Americans should be asking what does Hunter's laptop do for me?
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I'm not going to say there is not a story there maybe. I'm saying that The Twitter suppressing it caused Trump to lose is the 2020 version of Comey caused Hillary to lose in 2016.
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They did not specifically suppress a damned thing. The warned the media in general about the potential for release of hacked (and faked?) materials.
About information on a laptop that the world's premier intelligence agency had in it's hands for months and months.
They looked at it, or they didn't. They didn't make a point of getting it to not look at it.
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About information on a laptop that the world's premier intelligence agency had in it's hands for months and months.
They looked at it, or they didn't. They didn't make a point of getting it to not look at it.
That is not what the paragraph from The Twitter Guy you rely upon remotely says.
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Americans should be asking what does Hunter's laptop do for me?
Distracts attention from Moore v. Harper.
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About information on a laptop that the world's premier intelligence agency had in it's hands for months and months.
They looked at it, or they didn't. They didn't make a point of getting it to not look at it.
My impression is repair shop gave the lap top to the FBI. He kept some copies of the hard drive. He gave one of the copies to Trump's lawyer Rudy Guiliani. Rudy peddled it to the press. NY Post was the only mainstream media that bit and actually only one writer at that.
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That is not what the paragraph from The Twitter Guy you rely upon remotely says.
Tell me you haven't seen anything about the FBI burying the laptop in the summer of 2020 without telling me you haven't seen anything about the FBI burying the laptop in the summer of 2020.
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My impression is repair shop gave the lap top to the FBI. He kept some copies of the hard drive. He gave one of the copies to Trump's lawyer Rudy Guiliani. Rudy peddled it to the press. NY Post was the only mainstream media that bit and actually only one writer at that.
Rudy peddled it to the same organizations who wrote about Russiagate and the impeachment incessantly ?
I can't imagine why they wouldn't want the story. Lol.
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Rudy peddled it to the same organizations who wrote about Russiagate and the impeachment incessantly ?
I can't imagine why they wouldn't want the story. Lol.
Like Fox and WSJ? Or that failing paper that published the Clinton Cash story? Lol?
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My impression is repair shop gave the lap top to the FBI. He kept some copies of the hard drive. He gave one of the copies to Trump's lawyer Rudy Guiliani. Rudy peddled it to the press. NY Post was the only mainstream media that bit and actually only one writer at that.
He didn't exactly "give" the laptop to the FBI. 2 agents showed up at his door asking for the laptop. He also says one agent gave him a veiled threat to keep quiet.
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Like Fox and WSJ? Or that failing paper that published the Clinton Cash story? Lol?
Exactly
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Tell me you haven't seen anything about the FBI burying the laptop in the summer of 2020 without telling me you haven't seen anything about the FBI burying the laptop in the summer of 2020.
Not without more.
Nonetheless, the story was published and circulated, but just not on The Twitter, which may be the sole news source for 10,000 people. 5 of which may be "undecideds."
So far this is pretty weak. Let's see more.
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Not without more.
Nonetheless, the story was published and circulated, but just not on The Twitter, which may be the sole news source for 10,000 people. 5 of which may be "undecideds."
So far this is pretty weak. Let's see more.
JFC. Gmafb, will ya ? ;D
To go on top of Yoel Roth's statement about the Twitter etc, this was just released yesterday. 386 pages and I'm only halfway thru Fauci's 446 page deposition from last week.
(https://i.ibb.co/N9Y67QL/Screenshot-20221207-093305.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tqCM3kb)
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Let's see what happens now that the lawyer vetting the Twitter documents was terminated, it sounds like, for vetting them. Still not buying Twitter swung the election given its minimal use in the mainstream, but people need shit to whine about when their guy loses like Hillary et al. blaming Comey.
I do feel like most of Hillary’s problems were self-inflicted, but this one was not, and it was highly inappropriate for the FBI to do what they did only days before the election. This might be the one excuse I think holds some weight.
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I do feel like most of Hillary’s problems were self-inflicted, but this one was not, and it was highly inappropriate for the FBI to do what they did only days before the election. This might be the one excuse I think holds some weight.
Based on what? Knowing what we know now, does not seem like it.
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JFC. Gmafb, will ya ? ;D
To go on top of Yoel Roth's statement about the Twitter etc, this was just released yesterday. 386 pages and I'm only halfway thru Fauci's 446 page deposition from last week.
(https://i.ibb.co/N9Y67QL/Screenshot-20221207-093305.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tqCM3kb)
Ok. Still looking for more. No one else has claimed that the FBI mentioned the laptop specifically.
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JFC. Gmafb, will ya ? ;D
To go on top of Yoel Roth's statement about the Twitter etc, this was just released yesterday. 386 pages and I'm only halfway thru Fauci's 446 page deposition from last week.
(https://i.ibb.co/N9Y67QL/Screenshot-20221207-093305.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tqCM3kb)
Lol I love that Mn is getting to the bottom of this Hunter Biden laptop thing.
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Lol I love that Mn is getting to the bottom of this Hunter Biden laptop thing.
Mn's comments have long led me to believe he's a bottom
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Mn's comments have long led me to believe he's a bottom
Wow. Truce is over, I see....
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If you ever wondered what MN looks like, he's now internet famous, interviewed by Klepper at 1:50
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDcIludbsUw&t=1188s
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Mr. 1st Amendment Asshole can fuck off.
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/musk-threatens-sue-twitter-employees-161222628.html
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Ugh hate to interrupt the anti-Musk masturbation but pretty much any company that has employees sign NDAs is going to expect them to honor it. Particularly with detailed sensitive information. Data and information security is enormously important, especially at a tech company.
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Elon has an army of fanboys.
He has a much better chance of beating Trump than DeSantis.
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Elon has an army of fanboys.
He has a much better chance of beating Trump than DeSantis.
Incorrect by construction, Musk was born in South Africa. Or are you talking a fist fight?
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Incorrect by construction, Musk was born in South Africa. Or are you talking a fist fight?
Forgot about that. I guess Elon has to hope Trump modifies the Constitution someday.
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Ugh hate to interrupt the anti-Musk masturbation but pretty much any company that has employees sign NDAs is going to expect them to honor it. Particularly with detailed sensitive information. Data and information security is enormously important, especially at a tech company.
True, but that does not appear to be what he is worried about.
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It is all allegedly about "freedom of speech" until it isn't.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/twitter-account-tracks-elon-musks-110613238.html
The Twitter account that tracks Elon Musk's private jet has been shadowbanned, its owner says
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Incorrect by construction, Musk was born in South Africa. Or are you talking a fist fight?
Didn't slow down that Kenyan that was in office for 8 years. ;D
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Didn't slow down that Kenyan that was in office for 8 years. ;D
LOL. Great point.
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https://www.semafor.com/article/12/11/2022/white-house-twitter-musk-indifferent
Chuckled reading this article.
The administration does not consider Twitter a vital part of any political strategy that reaches beyond the chattering classes. One former White House official told Semafor the platform is an “afterthought” in communications and press meetings, which tend to focus first on television and traditional media and on Facebook, a declining service that still reaches a mass audience.
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For whatever it is worth, about how private social media companies should do "free speech" if that is what they want to do:
https://www.persuasion.community/p/the-twitter-files-show-its-time-to?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=61579&post_id=90100626&isFreemail=true&utm_medium=email
"First, it means giving up the quest for a free speech utopia and embracing viewpoint neutrality. There is no way to create any meaningful free speech environment that allows for actual debate while protecting participants from hurtful ideas or painful speech. Executives at Twitter or Meta are no better than college administrators at crafting the perfect speech code. The brightest minds have already made that effort, and even the brightest minds have failed.
"Second, it means moderating on the basis of traditional speech limits. Even institutions that embrace viewpoint neutrality will place limits on speech. They’ll have to. If there is one thing we know from decades of experience with the internet is that completely unmoderated spaces can and do become open sewers that are often unsafe for children and deeply unpleasant for adults. Unmoderated spaces can become so grotesque that they’re simply not commercially viable.
"“Viewpoint neutral” is thus not a synonym for “unmoderated.” Consistent with viewpoint neutrality, a platform can impose restrictions that echo offline speech limitations. Defamation isn’t protected speech. Neither is obscenity. Harassment is unlawful. Invasions of privacy (doxxing, for example) should face sanctions. Threats and incitement violate criminal law. A platform can say, “Children are present. No nudity.”
"It is easy to imagine different rules that make it easier to talk about issues and harder to target individuals. Examples of viewpoint-neutral time, place, and manner regulations that could prevent, for example, some of the worst conduct on Twitter could include limiting or eradicating the quote-tweet function, limiting the visibility of replies to other users’ tweets, or limiting the ability of users to reply or interact with tweets of people they don’t follow.
"Third, it means embracing clarity and transparency. Make rules clear. Create an appeals process when users are penalized. No human institution is ever going to apply its rules perfectly, and accountability is necessary. Secrecy in decision-making can impair trust every bit as thoroughly as flaws in the substance of the decisions made."
This was certainly interesting:
"Indeed, one of the interesting lessons of the last few years is that social media censorship is both divisive and ineffective. It often backfires. In a free society, attempts to censor speech often create a demand for that speech. Twitter censoring the Hunter Biden story, for example, didn’t squelch its reach. Internet searches for Hunter Biden skyrocketed after Twitter took action.
"The idea that censoring speech can have the opposite effect is so well-known that it has a term—the Streisand Effect. In 2003, Barbra Streisand sued to have a picture of her home removed from an internet site. At the time she filed the suit, the image had only been downloaded a grand total of six times (twice by her lawyers). After her suit hit the news, the image was downloaded 420,000 times in a single month.
"The reality of the Streisand Effect can create perverse incentives. Bad actors will intentionally court suspensions or flirt with outright bans to generate attention and sympathy."
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...not paying The Twitter's bills, apparently....
https://www.axios.com/2022/12/14/twitter-elon-musk-paying-bills-rent
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This is the guy who is going to take the Earth's wealthiest people to Mars???
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This is the guy who is going to take the Earth's wealthiest people to Mars???
I believe that's called a "Brontorock"
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This is the guy who is going to take the Earth's wealthiest people to Mars???
Maybe he is a big picture ideas guy and not a day to day details guy?
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This is the guy who is going to take the Earth's wealthiest people to Mars???
Hopefully he can take that damned Trump on that ride and not bring him back. Let outer space listen to his BS.
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...not paying The Twitter's bills, apparently....
https://www.axios.com/2022/12/14/twitter-elon-musk-paying-bills-rent
Think he’s trying to run a business, not UNICEF for millennial tech nerds
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Hopefully he can take that damned Trump on that ride and not bring him back. Let outer space listen to his BS.
You’re literally obsessed with Trump. I haven’t listened to him say a peep in I don’t know how long. 🤷🏻♂️
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Think he’s trying to run a business, not UNICEF for millennial tech nerds
Not paying landlords and vendors is now a business strategy? All it takes is 3 creditors to file an involuntary bankruptcy.....
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You’re literally obsessed with Trump. I haven’t listened to him say a peep in I don’t know how long. 🤷🏻♂️
Last I heard he was running for president again....
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Musk taking business and political lessons from Trump?
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Not paying landlords and vendors is now a business strategy?
It certainly can be a short term strategy to renegotiate or prop up cash flow, don’t tell me you’re triggered by Musk too?
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It certainly can be a short term strategy to renegotiate or prop up cash flow, don’t tell me you’re triggered by Musk too?
Oh, I am sure he is going to try and weasel out of debts given how he idiotically overpaid for something that is really nothing of substance.
Triggered? I just think he is a cynical businessman and this is all an act. He has the Libs (buying Teslas and using the stupid Twitter) already. He is now just looking to branch out and suck in Conservatives.
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You really seem to be buying the party line on Musk
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Musk taking business and political lessons from Trump?
Musk's great business skill is finding competent people who want to do something and barking loudly at them and about them while throwing money around.
And that's all it takes to be a wingnut dream date.
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You really seem to be buying the party line on Musk
I thought the party line was that he is into free speech? It certainly isn't proving to be that based on his actions.
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I'll add that I've never followed the guy's story or thought he was a hero or whatever. I'd read how his cars kept getting recalled. The Boring company has overly grandiose unrealiatic plans to build an underground road to O'Hare. And he charges people to go on joy rides in orbit. To me, he has sounds like a lot of rich guys who think they have hit a homer when they started out on second base. Seems to me his mouth got him in trouble here and he is flailing.
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Mr. Free Speech proving to be full of shit.
https://www.the-sun.com/tech/6919934/elon-musk-twitter-sweeney-suspended-stalker-lil-x/
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Mr. Free Speech proving to be full of shit.
https://www.the-sun.com/tech/6919934/elon-musk-twitter-sweeney-suspended-stalker-lil-x/
Nearly as inconsistent as Brumby and nerds when they moderated the deuce.
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Not paying landlords and vendors is now a business strategy? All it takes is 3 creditors to file an involuntary bankruptcy.....
It’s been Trump’s business strategy for decades.
It’s pretty hilarious that the world’s richest man is delinquent on his bills.
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Nearly as inconsistent as Brumby and nerds when they moderated the deuce.
Brumby…you’ve been around a while. What was your original username?
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Oh, I am sure he is going to try and weasel out of debts given how he idiotically overpaid for something that is really nothing of substance.
Triggered? I just think he is a cynical businessman and this is all an act. He has the Libs (buying Teslas and using the stupid Twitter) already. He is now just looking to branch out and suck in Conservatives.
On paper, he’s got like $200 billion left. $44 billion should be play money for him. He’s still one of 3 richest men in the world with the $44 billion.
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Of course Tempo thinks that being with a few hundred billion means you have a few hundred billion sitting in the bank
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I'll add that I've never followed the guy's story or thought he was a hero or whatever. I'd read how his cars kept getting recalled. The Boring company has overly grandiose unrealiatic plans to build an underground road to O'Hare. And he charges people to go on joy rides in orbit. To me, he has sounds like a lot of rich guys who think they have hit a homer when they started out on second base. Seems to me his mouth got him in trouble here and he is flailing.
Dude I was saying he was full of shit years ago on OGHQ and it was crickets from all you lefties except for Murph who’d pipe up to carry his water. Then the guy buys Twitter and right codes himself and next thing you know all the same people are bending over backwards to say he’s full of shit. You’re too smart to be a political windsock.
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Of course Tempo thinks that being with a few hundred billion means you have a few hundred billion sitting in the bank
No, that’s not what I think. What I think is that his life doesn’t change one iota despite buying Twitter or no Twitter.
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Of course Tempo thinks that being with a few hundred billion means you have a few hundred billion sitting in the bank
That’s why I said “on paper.” Meaning, not liquidity.
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You’re too smart to be a political windsock.
That’s debatable.
Anyone can make a heel turn. Ask Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, and Hulk Hogan. I used to like Musk, but what i thought i knew about him was false. He doesn’t seem nearly as smart as I once thought he was.
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Musk's great business skill is finding competent people who want to do something and barking loudly at them and about them while throwing money around.
And that's all it takes to be a wingnut dream date.
Trump's business skills appear to be self promotion, shifting blame, welching on debts; all readily transferable to politics.
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Dude I was saying he was full of shit years ago on OGHQ and it was crickets from all you lefties except for Murph who’d pipe up to carry his water. Then the guy buys Twitter and right codes himself and next thing you know all the same people are bending over backwards to say he’s full of shit. You’re too smart to be a political windsock.
I cannot say I cared about the guy to even comment. (Shocking, I know.) No AOTC award for me on this one.
I only jumped in because people here misconstrued the First Amendment and claimed The Twitter caused Biden to win the election (when The Streisand Effect caused more people to search for the laptop story).
I'm skeptical that 7-Up is going to want to buy ad space on a Nick Fuentes White Power post on The Twitter, but I also don't have 44 billion sitting in my bank account like Tempo thinks Musk does.
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That’s debatable.
Anyone can make a heel turn. Ask Glenn Greenwald, Matt Taibbi, and Hulk Hogan. I used to like Musk, but what i thought i knew about him was false. He doesn’t seem nearly as smart as I once thought he was.
This is a hilarious post throughout.
Hulk Hogan? Seriously? Why would you care to "like" any of them listed that much that you were disappointed by them later. You listed a journalist, journalist, pro wrestler, and tech/industrialist. Did you like Trump in the 80s and 90s, buy his dumbass books, and watch his TV show too? I don't get it.
I enjoyed reading Christopher Hitchens even after his "shift." Didn't always agree with him, before or after his "shift," but I thought his writing was usually thought provoking nonetheless.
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Dude I was saying he was full of shit years ago on OGHQ and it was crickets from all you lefties except for Murph who’d pipe up to carry his water. Then the guy buys Twitter and right codes himself and next thing you know all the same people are bending over backwards to say he’s full of shit. You’re too smart to be a political windsock.
From what I can see, most people on the left were ambivalent about Musk until he decided to march down the coo-coo trail. There were some who figured out early that he was an attention whore, feeding off the work of greater people.
I appreciate Tesla’s work on energy storage technology. I almost bought one of its home battery systems. I do not support Musk going full QAnon.
The only question for me now is whether his fits of public insanity over the past two years represent a transformation…or revelation.
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I do not support Musk going full QAnon.
LOL when did he do that?
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From what I can see, most people on the left were ambivalent about Musk until he decided to march down the coo-coo trail. There were some who figured out early that he was an attention whore, feeding off the work of greater people.
I appreciate Tesla’s work on energy storage technology. I almost bought one of its home battery systems. I do not support Musk going full QAnon.
The only question for me now is whether his fits of public insanity over the past two years represent a transformation…or revelation.
Agreed.
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LOL when did he do that?
https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3pjkw/elon-musk-is-now-promoting-qanon
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Oh FFS 🤦🏻
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https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3pjkw/elon-musk-is-now-promoting-qanon
And you say it’s conservatives that believe in conspiracy theories… 🤦🏻♂️🥴
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Vice appears to love to write about The Twitter.
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https://www.vice.com/amp/en/article/y3pjkw/elon-musk-is-now-promoting-qanon
are you sure its not just an Alice in Wonderland reference?
I need a fact check on the fact check
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Vice appears to love to write about The Twitter.
I remember not that long ago when they wrote interesting stories
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Everyone knows Musk is a "pedo guy," but that's not meant to be taken literally.
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I wonder how many people have been put in jail over that whole Epstein case anyway?
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I wonder how many people have been put in jail over that whole Epstein case anyway?
Why you talking about a guy who has been dead for over 3 years?
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are you sure its not just an Alice in Wonderland reference?
I need a fact check on the fact check
Jefferson Airplane, White Rabbit .
"And if you go chasing rabbits ...."
🐰
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Twitter suspends journalists who have been covering Elon Musk and the company
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-suspends-journalists-covering-elon-musk-company-rcna62032
Gee I wonder if Matt Taibbi will speak up for them.
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Twitter suspends journalists who have been covering Elon Musk and the company
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/twitter-suspends-journalists-covering-elon-musk-company-rcna62032
Gee I wonder if Matt Taibbi will speak up for them.
Doubtful..
Best line:
“We hope that all of the journalists’ accounts are reinstated and that Twitter provides a satisfying explanation for this action,” said Charlie Stadtlander, communications director for the Times.
Uh, he doesn't have to tell you shit, dumbfuck. Sorry.
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My guess is that all of them will get unsuspended in the near future, with Musk snarkily tweeting “sorry, it was a mistake.” Time will tell, but Musk has proven to act in juvenile ways.
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My guess is that all of them will get unsuspended in the near future, with Musk snarkily tweeting “sorry, it was a mistake.” Time will tell, but Musk has proven to act in juvenile ways.
I would not hold my breath. I just hope all those people anxiously awaiting Keith Olbermann's latest musings can find him on Google +.
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Brumby…you’ve been around a while. What was your original username?
ILFaninCa, I think.
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Trolling liberals, the primary buyers of his cars, is odd.
Perhaps he thinks the right will buy his unusual looking Cybertruck to own the libs.
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I guess free speech has its limits afterall.
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I guess free speech has its limits afterall.
Since you served, you know that free speech is not free.
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Elon is a staunch advocate for free speech. Unless it’s free speech he dislikes. Elon drops the ban hammer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QyajJS7Kkiw
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Next thing you know, instead of people telling people how to figure out where Musk is and getting his familly stalked, it might get serious and people will start exposing his Twitter handle.
@MDS
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Next thing you know, instead of people telling people how to figure out where Musk is and getting his familly stalked, it might get serious and people will start exposing his Twitter handle.
@MDS
Everything that was being shared was perfectly legal.
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Next thing you know, instead of people telling people how to figure out where Musk is and getting his familly stalked, it might get serious and people will start exposing his Twitter handle.
@MDS
I'll take the family stalking bit with a grain of salt as their is no police report and the jet kid couldn't post where the family car was.
I thought his handle was @freespeechabsolutist. Or is that it on The InstaFace?
But good for him doing what he wants with his new toy. I am going to bet they all come into line shortly because these idiots can't live without the attention they think they can get for themselves on The Twitter.
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Everything that was being shared was perfectly legal.
Here we go again...too bad that is completely irrelevant. His toy. He can do whatever he wants. Don't like it, go pound salt and post on Truth Social, Gab, Mostodon, post.net, HQ2 (except starting additional Bears threads), 247, Illini Loyalty, Rob's website....
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I am becoming entertained by the whining of the media companies about this.
I am also finding I have friends in real life who also do not comprehend the limits of the 1st Amendment, in addition to their zeal for claiming that Justin Fields is a real quarterback.
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I am becoming entertained by the whining of the media companies about this.
I am also finding I have friends in real life who also do not comprehend the limits of the 1st Amendment, in addition to their zeal for claiming that Justin Fields is a real quarterback.
They knew what they were doing. Now they are the #victims.
And the #justiceforthevictims warriors will demand advertisors suspend their advertising campaigns on the Twitter. Again.
It's almost as riveting as Harry and Meghan's Netflix soap opera.
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Everything that was being shared was perfectly legal.
Don't do that.
You did it anyway, didn't you ?
There's no law against it.
Go to your room.
Bwaaaaabwaaaa.
:D
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They knew what they were doing. Now they are the #victims.
And the #justiceforthevictims warriors will demand advertisors suspend their advertising campaigns on the Twitter. Again.
It's almost as riveting as Harry and Meghan's Netflix soap opera.
If you are an advertiser, it may depend on what you are selling if you want to remain on The Twitter. The Trump playing cards and collector dinner plates may sell well there soon.
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If you are an advertiser, it may depend on what you are selling if you want to remain on The Twitter. The Trump playing cards and collector dinner plates may sell well there soon.
Like Dorsey selling his 'we don't ban conservatives' to congressional committees ?
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Like Dorsey selling his 'we don't ban conservatives' to congressional committees ?
I am guessing it depends on if you equate conservatives with bigots and spreading fake news. I don't.
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I am guessing it depends on if you equate conservatives with bigots and spreading fake news. I don't.
Where would "fringe epidemiologist" and co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration Dr. Jay Bhattacharya fit in ?
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Where would "fringe epidemiologist" and co-author of the Great Barrington Declaration Dr. Jay Bhattacharya fit in ?
I do not know how The Twitter management at the time chose to determine who the bigots and fake news peddlers were during their tenure. Much like I do not know how current management is determining who gets banned, etc.
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https://www.theonion.com/conservatives-explain-how-woke-culture-is-destroying-am-1849893948
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I’m so old I remember there once was a time where they’d send a big yellow book to everyone’s house listing yours and everyone else’s assassination coordinates.
How times have changed.
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I’m so old I remember there once was a time where they’d send a big yellow book to everyone’s house listing yours and everyone else’s assassination coordinates.
How times have changed.
LOL. I do not know how far back it goes, but you could pay not to have your listing included in the White Pages.
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I hope no posts that Santa tracker on The Twitter.
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LOL. I do not know how far back it goes, but you could pay not to have your listing included in the White Pages.
I think the opt-out option wasn’t widely available until the 1980s and of course you had to rely on the phone companies to make the process accessible and convenient.
Here's a good article about the evolution of online people search services that replaced the phonebook.
https://www.theverge.com/2017/3/21/14945884/people-search-sites-history-privacy-regulation
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Unlisted phone numbers were available in Champaign and Urbana early 1960s.
Some people still had party lines back then.
In some of the small towns, you only had to dial the last four digits within an exchange prefix.
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Unlisted phone numbers were available in Champaign and Urbana early 1960s.
Some people still had party lines back then.
In some of the small towns, you only had to dial the last four digits within an exchange prefix.
Was the operator listening in like on The Andy Griffith Show?
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Was the operator listening in like on The Andy Griffith Show?
Thankfully, nobody listens in these days. ;)
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Musk replies to Democracy Dies in Darkness .....
🐰🐰 :D🐰🐰
(https://i.ibb.co/pRZ7BBd/Screenshot-20221217-075236.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4YMqnnp)
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Unlisted phone numbers were available in Champaign and Urbana early 1960s.
Some people still had party lines back then.
In some of the small towns, you only had to dial the last four digits within an exchange prefix.
In the shithole town I grew up in, even during the mid 80s or so, you only had to dial the last 5.
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Musk replies to Democracy Dies in Darkness .....
🐰🐰 :D🐰🐰
(https://i.ibb.co/pRZ7BBd/Screenshot-20221217-075236.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4YMqnnp)
Lol indeed
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It never occurred to me that twitter was good for anything except recruiting scoops.
I also never subscribed to the idea that googling a topic was somehow doing actual research. It can be a useful tool to help read up on something.
The biggest problem is there are so many self styled experts that wading through all the crap to find good info is challenging.
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It never occurred to me that twitter was good for anything except recruiting scoops.
I also never subscribed to the idea that googling a topic was somehow doing actual research. It can be a useful tool to help read up on something.
The biggest problem is there are so many self styled experts that wading through all the crap to find good info is challenging.
Everyone gets their news from The Twitter apparently. I get mine from Golf's memes posted here.
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Everyone gets their news from The Twitter apparently. I get mine from Golf's memes posted here.
I used to get mine from
Don Wade and Rush Limbaugh. Now that they have passed on, I rely on the Five.
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I used to get mine from
Don Wade and Rush Limbaugh. Now that they have passed on, I rely on the Five.
What about Roma? Did she not provide any news?
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I mean seriously though. Elon Musk has some highly questionable judgment to let this photo happen.
(https://i.postimg.cc/x12tC6Pm/D8-FC2-E10-D48-C-451-A-B7-B0-A9553-A0-FA107.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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https://www.yahoo.com/now/time-end-nightmare-analyst-dan-181036682.html
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What about Roma? Did she not provide any news?
Should have said Don Wade and Roma, and Rush, but not Roe Conn; who btw, is now a cop.
Mike Malloy and Nate Clay for a left perspective.
Roma is alive and in Florida.
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Should have said Don Wade and Roma, and Rush, but not Roe Conn; who btw, is now a cop.
Mike Malloy and Nate Clay for a left perspective.
Roma is alive and in Florida.
Maybe she is dating Golf.
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I mean seriously though. Elon Musk has some highly questionable judgment to let this photo happen.
(https://i.postimg.cc/x12tC6Pm/D8-FC2-E10-D48-C-451-A-B7-B0-A9553-A0-FA107.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
attending the world cup? who's he with that pic is terrible
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attending the world cup? who's he with that pic is terrible
You haven't seen that dude at the local bowling alley?
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attending the world cup? who's he with that pic is terrible
You don’t know who that is?
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You don’t know who that is?
no clue
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no clue
Jared Kushner, Trump’s son in law. Saudis allegedly gave him $2 billion
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Privacy for Musk, not for you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvdwLHMg/BCDA2377-8252-4079-B8-E2-C14928-D552-B0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt87Lq9G)
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Privacy for Musk, not for you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvdwLHMg/BCDA2377-8252-4079-B8-E2-C14928-D552-B0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt87Lq9G)
How cool of you to point that out now that he’s came out as a right-wing nut. Liberals do this shit all the time. Do as I say, not as I do. If I’m not mistaken, you had a post with the same contradiction that I pointed out in another thread. Maybe this one.
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https://www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/after-tesla-stock-lost-critical-battle-line-shares-plunge-toward-worst-month-quarter-and-year-in-history-11671561980
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How cool of you to point that out now that he’s came out as a right-wing nut. Liberals do this shit all the time. Do as I say, not as I do. If I’m not mistaken, you had a post with the same contradiction that I pointed out in another thread. Maybe this one.
Does not seem that he wants to take you on, Judge Judy. Too busy looking for the serial killer throwing people into bodies of water.
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Does not seem that he wants to take you on, Judge Judy. Too busy looking for the serial killer throwing people into bodies of water.
He definitely gets distracted. Sometimes even forgetting his own arguments and posts. It’s ok, just figured I’d make my point.
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I call out Musk because he’s a narcissist and a hypocrite. It has very little to do with his politics, which I’m not convinced are that right-wing.
I didn’t answer JJ because his post didn’t really deserve an answer. I’ve called out the Joe Bidens and Nancy Pelosis of the world, too. They are corporate owned shills.
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I’ve called out the Joe Bidens and Nancy Pelosis of the world, too. They are corporate owned shills.
I call bullshit, where?! Now go search for those and repost here like you search for JFC posts by ThePAMan…
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I call bullshit, where?! Now go search for those and repost here like you search for JFC posts by ThePAMan…
This wasn’t something posted here, but here’s an example. I’m sure I’ve posted similar stuff here. Just not sure which thread to find it in. I’m not searching 112 page threads for you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Xq5Pcx89/327-B7-C72-BA3-A-4799-9-E80-079330-D608-B0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BPqNJTRv)best free image host (https://postimages.org/)
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Privacy for Musk, not for you.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qvdwLHMg/BCDA2377-8252-4079-B8-E2-C14928-D552-B0.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mt87Lq9G)
Do you have any links to these news reports ?
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Do you have any links to these news reports ?
Try Google?
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https://twitter.com/jamilsmith/status/1603619898394939393?s=46&t=Lecy8kv8sTouDEnoS7xYmQ
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This wasn’t something posted here, but here’s an example. I’m sure I’ve posted similar stuff here. Just not sure which thread to find it in. I’m not searching 112 page threads for you.
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For the record, this was NOT posted by Jobu or any of his Tempo mults.
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I call bullshit, where?! Now go search for those and repost here like you search for JFC posts by ThePAMan…
Found a few. Make sure you read them. This ALWAYS ends badly for you.
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/23/politics/twitter-files-elon-musk-fbi-hunter-biden-laptop/index.html
It is what you would expect from the Communist News Network though....
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https://www.cnn.com/2022/12/23/politics/twitter-files-elon-musk-fbi-hunter-biden-laptop/index.html
It is what you would expect from the Communist News Network though....
Well water IS wet, right?! Unless of course you’re a fish and don’t know any better I suppose.
Not sure what I just said has any relevance BUT it sounded good in my head. Logic be damned!
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Found a few. Make sure you read them. This ALWAYS ends badly for you.
I think it’s funny you take the actual time to look them up to prove yourself lol
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I think it’s funny you take the actual time to look them up to prove yourself lol
Didn’t take that long. I like proving you wrong when you’re talking out of your ass.
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Didn’t take that long. I like proving you wrong when you’re talking out of your ass.
Murph, take care of this peasant for me! 😂
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Murph, take care of this peasant for me! 😂
If you’re going to make false accusations expect to get called out.
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If you’re going to make false accusations expect to get called out.
Yes, Boss. You get called out on your bullshit everyday and just won’t let it go.
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Yes, Boss. You get called out on your bullshit everyday and just won’t let it go.
I literally just proved you were talking out of your ass (at your request), and you act as if I’m the one clowning myself. Can’t make this up.
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You still hung up on the Bielema shit from like 2 years ago? Let it go, man.
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I literally just proved you were talking out of your ass (at your request), and you act as if I’m the one clowning myself. Can’t make this up.
You did good, Tempo.
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I literally just proved you were talking out of your ass (at your request), and you act as if I’m the one clowning myself. Can’t make this up.
He has no butthole. He does not poop
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1610421293060599808
“US govt agency demanded suspension of 250k accounts, including journalists & Canadian officials!”
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1610421293060599808
Did you actually read the source document in the embedded The Tweet? The one that says they displayed "inorganic behavior," followed two or more Chinese diplomats, newly created, were believed to be "suspicious" and "This is shared for your situational awareness and no action is requested."
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https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1610421293060599808
I can’t wait for the replies from Murph and Alum. Should be funny.
And apparently PMan
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I can’t wait for the replies from Murph and Alum. Should be funny.
And apparently PMan
The document upon which the allegation is based is attached to the underlying The Tweet. Read it and let me know what you think (instead of what someone else thinks). If they did it, let's see it. I have not seen it yet.
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The document upon which the allegation is based is attached to the underlying The Tweet. Read it and let me know what you think (instead of what someone else thinks). If they did it, let's see it. I have not seen it yet.
That’s a lot of reading 😂
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That’s a lot of reading 😂
If you can read Tempo's Nicaraguan Women Are Easy articles, I think you can handle this one.
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If you can read Tempo's Nicaraguan Women Are Easy articles, I think you can handle this one.
Yeah man but those women eating live tarantulas is 🔥🥵
This shit is boring but shows you all the bullshit our government does. Shits actually depressing.
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I can’t wait for the replies from Murph and Alum. Should be funny.
And apparently PMan
Deleted my account
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Deleted my account
Let me guess… because of Elon?!
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Did you actually read the source document in the embedded The Tweet? The one that says they displayed "inorganic behavior," followed two or more Chinese diplomats, newly created, were believed to be "suspicious" and "This is shared for your situational awareness and no action is requested."
It's the Russians. Everything is the Russians. Lol.
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And the Twitter says: nsp!!!
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And the State Dept/GEC stands firm: on Feb 14, 2020. 2 weeks after virologists tell Fauci the virus looks engineered.
Any discussion of a lab leak needs to be shut down.
ThiS wAs NOt A laB LeAK.
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It's aLwAYs the Russians. 🤣🤣
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Let me guess… because of Elon?!
because all anyone talked about was Elon, and it got very boring
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because all anyone talked about was Elon, and it got very boring
You do realize you can follow anybody you want…
Like you literally get to pick and choose who/what you get to see on your feed.
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It's the Russians. Everything is the Russians. Lol.
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And the Twitter says: nsp!!!
(https://i.ibb.co/Q62csgV/Screenshot-20230104-171019.jpg) (https://ibb.co/BgXP8pJ)
And the State Dept/GEC stands firm: on Feb 14, 2020. 2 weeks after virologists tell Fauci the virus looks engineered.
Any discussion of a lab leak needs to be shut down.
ThiS wAs NOt A laB LeAK.
(https://i.ibb.co/pdkVwNR/Screenshot-20230104-163530.jpg) (https://ibb.co/hVTQ9rZ)
It's aLwAYs the Russians. 🤣🤣
It appears the Commie bastards were very successful in their misinformation efforts, don't you think?
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It appears the bastards were very successful in their misinformation efforts, don't you think?
Fixed it for you.
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Fixed it for you.
Hahaha. Looks like the Commies got to you, Mn!
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Hahaha. Looks like the Commies got to you, Mn!
From the "Intelligence Committee" chair's office..........
And then from the Twitter: ummmmm No, Chairman Schiff. We don't do that.
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You do realize you can follow anybody you want…
Like you literally get to pick and choose who/what you get to see on your feed.
I guess the word "anyone" is a definition that eludes you
Or are you implying that instead of deleting my account, I could simply block and unfollow everyone
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Fixed it for you.
If I weren't busy skiing I would find the time to get a sock puppet account and see if I could get Mn to believe that not only is JFK Jr alive, but JFK is too
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From the "Intelligence Committee" chair's office..........
And then from the Twitter: ummmmm No, Chairman Schiff. We don't do that.
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I thought The Twitter censored when asked to do so. Does not look like it did here.
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I thought The Twitter censored when asked to do so. Does not look like it did here.
Whether or not the Twitter complied is not the issue.
A 'remove all' request from the Intelligence Committee is.
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Whether or not the Twitter complied is not the issue.
A 'remove all' request from the Intelligence Committee is.
Did you see the part where the sender asked for the recipient's opinion, if any, on whether any of the requests were even possible?
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Did you see the part where the sender asked for the recipient's opinion, if any, on whether any of the requests were even possible?
The requests from Schiff's office shouldn't have been made, but they knew they could
It looks as the the sender is a Twitter employee asking another employee.
Schiff's office could try to refute Sperry's stories rather than ask to have them censored.
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Anyone shocked? Starting to look like Trump Jr more by the day.
https://fortune.com/2023/01/05/twitter-layoffs-severance-pay-cobra-elon-musk/amp/
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Holy fucking clickbait Batman
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Holy fucking clickbait Batman
Explain.
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Today he is apparently censoring some unflattering documentary about Modi at the behest of the Indian government. Interesting.
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Freaking hilarious...
https://news.yahoo.com/ex-twitter-officials-confirm-congress-185525001.html
As the hearing was still in session, Rolling Stone reported that Trump’s demand to take down Teigen’s tweet was “hardly an isolated incident.” According to former Trump officials and Twitter staffers, prominent Republicans and the ex-president routinely asked the company to remove posts—the same behavior they’re now insisting shows Democrats and Twitter conspired to silence conservatives and restrict their free speech.
For some reason, none of this has been revealed in the many editions of Musk’s “Twitter Files,” which have almost entirely concentrated on communications sent by Democrats and government agencies to Twitter.
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What a shithole.
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Look over here, not over there. 👀🙈
If an individual wants to request Twitter take down a tweet that is directed at them, I suppose they should have that right. It may not be approved, but that's a different kettle of fish.
If the government or other actor gets involved in the request, that's also a different kettle of fish.
And Taibbi's write-up from 2 months ago clearly indicated that there were requests from Trump. This is nothing new.
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Look over here, not over there. 👀🙈
If an individual wants to request Twitter take down a tweet that is directed at them, I suppose they should have that right. It may not be approved, but that's a different kettle of fish.
If the government or other actor gets involved in the request, that's also a different kettle of fish.
And Taibbi's write-up from 2 months ago clearly indicated that there were requests from Trump. This is nothing new.
So the outrage was selective. Thanks!
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"If the government or other actor gets involved in the request, that's also a different kettle of fish."
I think President Trump was part of the government?
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So the outrage was selective. Thanks!
By Yahoo ? Yes, you are correct.
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"If the government or other actor gets involved in the request, that's also a different kettle of fish."
I think President Trump was part of the government?
He can pick up the phone and call Yoel Roth or his good buddy Jim McCabe to request a tweet be removed, the same as Hunter Biden could.
Requests coming from governmental agencies or their subcontractors are quite different.
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He can pick up the phone and call Yoel Roth or his good buddy Jim McCabe to request a tweet be removed, the same as Hunter Biden could.
Requests coming from governmental agencies or their subcontractors are quite different.
So threatening to use his power to regulate or shut them down is ok?
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Freaking hilarious...
https://news.yahoo.com/ex-twitter-officials-confirm-congress-185525001.html
As the hearing was still in session, Rolling Stone reported that Trump’s demand to take down Teigen’s tweet was “hardly an isolated incident.” According to former Trump officials and Twitter staffers, prominent Republicans and the ex-president routinely asked the company to remove posts—the same behavior they’re now insisting shows Democrats and Twitter conspired to silence conservatives and restrict their free speech.
For some reason, none of this has been revealed in the many editions of Musk’s “Twitter Files,” which have almost entirely concentrated on communications sent by Democrats and government agencies to Twitter.
These hearings are going to bite the Republicans in the ass six ways from Sunday.
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Here is a completely different take on the twitter files:
"There is a difference between receiving government counsel and following government orders, and nothing in the files indicates the latter has been done."
"...despite the concerns of pundits, the files do not actually show Twitter being compelled to act against its will."
https://www.lawfareblog.com/interpreting-twitter-files-lessons-about-external-influence-content-moderation
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He can pick up the phone and call Yoel Roth or his good buddy Jim McCabe to request a tweet be removed, the same as Hunter Biden could.
Requests coming from governmental agencies or their subcontractors are quite different.
I agree that purely petty personal requests are different than requests from law enforcement or intelligence agencies.
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Here is a completely different take on the twitter files:
"There is a difference between receiving government counsel and following government orders, and nothing in the files indicates the latter has been done."
"...despite the concerns of pundits, the files do not actually show Twitter being compelled to act against its will."
https://www.lawfareblog.com/interpreting-twitter-files-lessons-about-external-influence-content-moderation
lol. The RuSsIaNs are coming. The RuSsIaNs are coming. The Russian's influence was minimal compared to the influence of the government, Hamilton68, other groups and the media.
And true, good luck finding something from the government to Twitter, Facebook or whoever in black and white that says "you are compelled".
And I'm not sure your linked article says anything other than an attempt to justify for their work.
"On the contrary, when done correctly, this communication can foster balance and a safer social media experience for everyone. The Twitter Files certainly show, however, that so far these collaborations have often been ad hoc and distrusted. We have work to do, but it is work worth doing.
Nice closing line.
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"The Russian's influence was minimal compared to the influence of the government, Hamilton68, other groups and the media."
The media unduly influenced the media?
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"And true, good luck finding something from the government to Twitter, Facebook or whoever in black and white that says "you are compelled"."
So your evidence that they were compelled is they all say, no, they were not compelled?
How about
"the files show several instances of Twitter pushing back against outside recommendations regarding moderation and attribution."
Do you disagree with this:
"...much of what the files show in this case is simply mechanisms by which light is being cast on possible foreign information operations. Far from illegal, working with U.S. platforms to stop foreign information operations in this way is exactly what we should expect from the government."
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"And true, good luck finding something from the government to Twitter, Facebook or whoever in black and white that says "you are compelled"."
So your evidence that they were compelled is they all say, no, they were not compelled?
How about
"the files show several instances of Twitter pushing back against outside recommendations regarding moderation and attribution."
Do you disagree with this:
"...much of what the files show in this case is simply mechanisms by which light is being cast on possible foreign information operations. Far from illegal, working with U.S. platforms to stop foreign information operations in this way is exactly what we should expect from the government."
This is how the writer couches his argument, but there were more impactful domestic operations than foreign.
Yes there was some push back, but that doesn't absolve Twitter of instances where they wouldn't push back.
There is merit to addressing the foreign operations, but these are nothing new.
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By Yahoo ? Yes, you are correct.
And Custard? ;D
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Sounds like we should be happy that the Twitter, in partnership with our intelligence agencies, were able to limit the Soviet influence during the election. Job well done everybody
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I agree that purely petty personal requests are different than requests from law enforcement or intelligence agencies.
So your thinking is that a boss asking his female report to give him a blowjob is "just a personal request"?
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https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/09/politics/spacex-ukrainian-troops-satellite-technology/index.html
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So your thinking is that a boss asking his female report to give him a blowjob is "just a personal request"?
I was saying, in the context of asking twitter to remove something, I suppose I might concede that a petty ego based personal request is different than a national security based suggestions from the think tanks, law enforcement, etc.
I have no idea how you turned that into my thinking sexual harassment is a personal request.
Our good friend from MN seems to think personal requests are ok, but suggestions from third parties are not. I don't agree with his reasoning.
I do agree there is a distinction between Trump acting out of his personal interest and law enforcement acting in the national interest.
I don't think we can say one is always ok and the other is not.
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There were certainly teams of trolls supporting Trump on Facebook. They even had friends who were facebook mods.
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I do agree there is a distinction between Trump acting out of his personal interest and law enforcement acting in the national interest.
Is there a difference between The President of the United States acting out of his personal interest and Tempo calling up twitter to get them to delete a PAMan tweet accusing him of molesting his kids?
That's why the analogy holds. Tempo can't do anything to Twitter. The President can.
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Is there a difference between The President of the United States acting out of his personal interest and Tempo calling up twitter to get them to delete a PAMan tweet accusing him of molesting his kids?
That's why the analogy holds. Tempo can't do anything to Twitter. The President can.
Right. You must've missed this:
MN wrote "If the government or other actor gets involved in the request, that's also a different kettle of fish."
I replied: I think President Trump was part of the government?
So threatening to use his power to regulate or shut them down is ok?
Trump using his power for personal reasons is distinct from law enforcement, intelligence agencies, or think tanks advising social media platforms about foreign intel operations. I don't know how many different ways I can word that. I conceded that point tp MN.
MN seems to be saying said the former was okay; but the latter was not. I disagreed.
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https://news.yahoo.com/russian-propagandists-said-buy-twitter-112208170.html
Russian propagandists said to buy Twitter blue-check verifications
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Hilarious. The Soviets still working hard for Trump?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-desantis-twitter-haley-presidential-election-4d61487294f9218855b8e6e89f0c8ccc
Over the past 11 months, someone created thousands of fake, automated Twitter accounts — perhaps hundreds of thousands of them — to offer a stream of praise for Donald Trump.
Besides posting adoring words about the former president, the fake accounts ridiculed Trump’s critics from both parties and attacked Nikki Haley, the former South Carolina governor and U.N. ambassador who is challenging her onetime boss for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.
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Hilarious. The Soviets still working hard for Trump?
https://apnews.com/article/trump-desantis-twitter-haley-presidential-election-4d61487294f9218855b8e6e89f0c8ccc
Over the past 11 months, someone created thousands of fake, automated Twitter accounts — perhaps hundreds of thousands of them — to offer a stream of praise for Donald Trump.
Besides posting adoring words about the former president, the fake accounts ridiculed Trump’s critics from both parties and attacked Nikki Haley, the former South Carolina governor and U.N. ambassador who is challenging her onetime boss for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.
"Cyabra’s analysts determined that it was likely created within the U.S."
Where is the FBI Baltimore Field office located ?
Asking for a friend. 8)
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"Cyabra’s analysts determined that it was likely created within the U.S."
Where is the FBI Baltimore Field office located ?
Asking for a friend. 8)
If only Trump had finished building that wall in Alaska
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Like everyone isn’t doing this
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Fake speech sort of erodes the value of free speech.
I think I'll go with the paid, published experts, who use their real names, even if they are prompted.
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I am not surprised that there are people that don’t recognize that a fairly large percentage of the comments they see on Twitter/FB about divisive topics are bot generated bullshit.
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I am not surprised that there are people that don’t recognize that a fairly large percentage of the comments they see on Twitter/FB about divisive topics are bot generated bullshit.
Maybe it's because I'm in the deep bowels of tech, but when I see something that seems off in any way shape or form, I immediately presume spam.
People - smart people that I know - will decline to answer any incoming call from a number that isn't in their contacts, but will take every email or Facebook message at face value. It's a start I guess.
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Like everyone isn’t doing this
Doing what? Letting the Baltimore FBI field office flood social media with pro-Trump bots?
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I am not surprised that there are people that don’t recognize that a fairly large percentage of the comments they see on Twitter/FB about divisive topics are bot generated bullshit.
Are you saying that there really are not that many morons who think JFC is actually a QB at this point?
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Rode in a Tesla Uber on the way home. Driver bitched about all the annual/monthly subscription costs necessary to drive the car (it isn't cheap( how you pay Tesla, and not ComEd, to charge it (and Tesla charges "surge" pricing on the electricity), and how you can only really sell a used Tesla back to Tesla. I'll stick with the 20 year old Prius.
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Rode in a Tesla Uber on the way home. Driver bitched about all the annual/monthly subscription costs necessary to drive the car (it isn't cheap( how you pay Tesla, and not ComEd, to charge it (and Tesla charges "surge" pricing on the electricity), and how you can only really sell a used Tesla back to Tesla. I'll stick with the 20 year old Prius.
I guess that's an illinois problem. I rode this AM with my buddy in his Tesla, when he plugs it in, PG&E's software talks to the Tesla and tunes the charging times to be when electricity from the grid is the cheapest.
Whomever you sell the Tesla to - the resale value is shockingly high.
He plugs it in at work, they charge him $5 for 3 hours which gives him 50% charge - ~130 miles for $5
Also - since purchase he's done zero maintainance on it. No oil changes/etc... He's almost to 60k miles where he will get his first new cost - replacing the tires.
I mean - come on, you were talking to an Uber driver, not a rocket scientist.
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Rode in a Tesla Uber on the way home. Driver bitched about all the annual/monthly subscription costs necessary to drive the car (it isn't cheap( how you pay Tesla, and not ComEd, to charge it (and Tesla charges "surge" pricing on the electricity), and how you can only really sell a used Tesla back to Tesla. I'll stick with the 20 year old Prius.
Also - that thing is like riding a roller coaster if you want to - the acceleration on that thing is nuts.
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I guess that's an illinois problem. I rode this AM with my buddy in his Tesla, when he plugs it in, PG&E's software talks to the Tesla and tunes the charging times to be when electricity from the grid is the cheapest.
Whomever you sell the Tesla to - the resale value is shockingly high.
He plugs it in at work, they charge him $5 for 3 hours which gives him 50% charge - ~130 miles for $5
I mean - come on, you were talking to an Uber driver, not a rocket scientist.
Guy was quoting the electricity prices based on the time of day and pointing on the map with the charging stations what Tesla charged at each one. He said the battery was shit in the cold. He was not a happy customer. Seemed like a nice ride though. He said he had 80 miles left on the battery and I saw he had driven 187. That and the subscription prices to have cruise control etc. means you can keep it.
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Also - that thing is like riding a roller coaster if you want to - the acceleration on that thing is nuts.
He said it was more effective in city driving than expressway driving.
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Guy was quoting the electricity prices based on the time of day and pointing on the map with the charging stations what Tesla charged at each one. He said the battery was shit in the cold. He was not a happy customer. Seemed like a nice ride though. He said he had 80 miles left on the battery and I saw he had driven 187. That and the subscription prices to have cruise control etc. means you can keep it.
An Uber driver has to charge during the day when prices are high because they are driving it all the time. A "traditional user" plugs it in when they get home and it charges overnight while prices are low.
But being an Uber driver fulltime is an economic loser no matter how you slice it, the depreciation on the vehicle is bonkers compared to the income. Might as well not depreciate your car and flip burgers.
I do have one acquaintance who lives in Santa Rosa and works in SF, he gets up around 5 AM and turns on the uber app, and tries to get a fare headed south. He prefers to get a fare headed to somewhere in Marin, then he drops them off and takes the ferry, but if the fare wants to go to SF, he just drives them in and pays to park. Think the fare ends up being roughly $100 and parking is $30. So to some sense he's really just doing Casual Carpool but getting a few bucks (Casual Carpool is a real thing out here, people line up at places in Oakland and Berkeley and drivers line up to pick up people and drive them to SF in order to save the toll and be able to use the carpool lane).
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But being an Uber driver fulltime is an economic loser no matter how you slice it, the depreciation on the vehicle is bonkers compared to the income. Might as well not depreciate your car and flip burgers.
More shots fired by Murph at Tempo.
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It was pretty good until a few months ago. If you were disciplined and understood how to maximize your earnings. It is Royal hell on a vehicle though. Some drivers could make 3k+ in a week. I’ve had lots of 2k plus weeks and had great flexibility in my schedule, which i needed. Uber pay now is shit because Uber got greedy.
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I’ve picked up multiple people from Tesla dealerships dropping off their brand new Teslas to have something fixed. One guy recently said air was creeping through his window.
Sounds to me like they are living on their reputation.
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It was pretty good until a few months ago. If you were disciplined and understood how to maximize your earnings. It is Royal hell on a vehicle though. Some drivers could make 3k+ in a week. I’ve had lots of 2k plus weeks and had great flexibility in my schedule, which i needed. Uber pay now is shit because Uber got greedy.
Make 3k+ is that gross? Or after gas prices, tires, oil changes, and eventually the entire cost of the vehicle.
As for Uber getting greedy - the company has operated at a loss since inception. At some point they either had to lower your cut or raise fares - neither of which will work out. Basically they have just thrown a decade long party for people who needed rides.
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More shots fired by Murph at Tempo.
We call that a "subtweet" in the business.
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Make 3k+ is that gross? Or after gas prices, tires, oil changes, and eventually the entire cost of the vehicle.
As for Uber getting greedy - the company has operated at a loss since inception. At some point they either had to lower your cut or raise fares - neither of which will work out. Basically they have just thrown a decade long party for people who needed rides.
The reason is driver pay has been cut. Severely.
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/02/08/business/uber-revenue.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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Make 3k+ is that gross? Or after gas prices, tires, oil changes, and eventually the entire cost of the vehicle.
As for Uber getting greedy - the company has operated at a loss since inception. At some point they either had to lower your cut or raise fares - neither of which will work out. Basically they have just thrown a decade long party for people who needed rides.
Yeah, but they successfully killed the cab business.
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Fuck, I just typed out a two paragraph response that got blitzed. I even copied it because I saw that coming and it didn’t copy.
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Make 3k+ is that gross? Or after gas prices, tires, oil changes, and eventually the entire cost of the vehicle.
As for Uber getting greedy - the company has operated at a loss since inception. At some point they either had to lower your cut or raise fares - neither of which will work out. Basically they have just thrown a decade long party for people who needed rides.
Of course, a fair amount is re-invested. Definitely not all profit. But I did it for 5+ years (started out planning to do it 3-5 months) making it work. I worked as much as I wanted or took as much time off as I wanted. I needed the flexibility in my schedule, that’s the main reason i started doing it. By and large I was happy.
Recently (about 4 months ago) Uber rolled out some new features that some drivers had been clamoring for, but guess what?! Those improved features came with a huge pay reduction! In other words, it’s a big fucking shell game. I used to make $600-700 a week just in bonuses with out breaking a sweat. Bonuses suck now, and I don’t even shoot for them now. I split time evenly between Lyft and Uber. Both suck anymore though. Still nice not having a boss or set hours, but the pay sucks. Time to get out. Honestly, wouldn’t be surprised if the cabs make a comeback because no one would drive for these wages long unless they are a moron.
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6 months ago you wouldn’t have seen garbage like this:
(https://i.postimg.cc/T25KzV4S/6-EB81-B7-A-0-A94-4-EB4-B847-12181-CBEBF45.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CdYMDqYH)
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Any memorable passengers/stories?
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6 months ago you couldn’t get a ride across the street for $3 now they want you to spend 20 minutes of your time, car, and gas. I’ve seen a ton of rides less than $3
(https://i.postimg.cc/1RD90JT9/48346-D7-B-2-EA1-4045-A751-6732-E218-B0-B3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grkFmqm5)
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My acceptance rate has gone from 90% to 15% and falling. 90-95% of rides aren’t worth taking anymore.
(https://i.postimg.cc/1RD90JT9/48346-D7-B-2-EA1-4045-A751-6732-E218-B0-B3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/grkFmqm5)
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Meant for that last one to be this one.
(https://i.postimg.cc/s1FQLxzv/56-B18-A26-AC6-F-44-AD-9927-D82-FA4-EBFE17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V0RkrYd8)
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Any memorable passengers/stories?
A few.
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Of course, a fair amount is re-invested. Definitely not all profit. But I did it for 5+ years (started out planning to do it 3-5 months) making it work. I worked as much as I wanted or took as much time off as I wanted. I needed the flexibility in my schedule, that’s the main reason i started doing it. By and large I was happy.
Recently (about 4 months ago) Uber rolled out some new features that some drivers had been clamoring for, but guess what?! Those improved features came with a huge pay reduction! In other words, it’s a big fucking shell game. I used to make $600-700 a week just in bonuses with out breaking a sweat. Bonuses suck now, and I don’t even shoot for them now. I split time evenly between Lyft and Uber. Both suck anymore though. Still nice not having a boss or set hours, but the pay sucks. Time to get out. Honestly, wouldn’t be surprised if the cabs make a comeback because no one would drive for these wages long unless they are a moron.
The entire business model is broken. You've been getting paid these fat stacks by VC's and stockholders, not the riders. Eventually that had to end. The real plan was for driverless cars, but that problem hasn't been solved.
I don't think you can rightfully complain that Uber is mistreating you, if they treat you as you would like, they would just go belly up anyway. Broken business model. Take the money and run.
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Have your own jitney cab service, Tempo.
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(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WiltedDecimalAmericanmarten.webp)
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(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WiltedDecimalAmericanmarten.webp)
Hahaha tempos speedy rickshaw inc!
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Meant for that last one to be this one.
(https://i.postimg.cc/s1FQLxzv/56-B18-A26-AC6-F-44-AD-9927-D82-FA4-EBFE17.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/V0RkrYd8)
So, wtf do you do for health insurance? And, did your auto insurance increase because you do Uber? Your expenses have to be outrageous.
Jesus. I, for the life of me, can’t understand why the fuck anyone would do this.
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https://restofworld.org/2023/elon-musk-twitter-government-orders/
Twitter is complying with more government demands under Elon MuskThe company has not refused a single request since Musk took ownership, according to self-reported data
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=91kyM70ph7w
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Kowtowing to Commies, apparently.
https://msliwapublicrelations.cmail20.com/t/j-e-ehjqyk-yueydiijr-m/
Twitter Silences Critical Voices with Search Bans
on Top Uyghur and Tibetan Accounts
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Kowtowing to Commies, apparently.
https://msliwapublicrelations.cmail20.com/t/j-e-ehjqyk-yueydiijr-m/
Twitter Silences Critical Voices with Search Bans
on Top Uyghur and Tibetan Accounts
Is this one of the Twitter accounts ?
(https://i.ibb.co/GPBcwm2/Screenshot-20230607-190524.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C0NhdL7)
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Is this one of the Twitter accounts ?
(https://i.ibb.co/GPBcwm2/Screenshot-20230607-190524.jpg) (https://ibb.co/C0NhdL7)
Maybe he is a mult and not "critical"?
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i rode in a uber twice
ill stick to the classic taxis
just a 80's 90s feel you cant beat
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How much are you The Twitter people willing to pay monthly for the honor of using it? Isn't this the latest thing?
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How much are you The Twitter people willing to pay monthly for the honor of using it? Isn't this the latest thing?
Zero. I stopped using it a month or two into Musk's tenure and don't miss it. Occasionally when something is happening I'll go do a search (earthquake, sports event, train delay) but the real earthquake stats can be found via a web search, I guess I can wait to see the clips of some play, and so many other people quit twitter that the train delay info isn't really what it used to be anyway.
The last point there is the real problem for Musk. Because the value in twitter is the content created by users, if some subset of users balks at paying, the content goes down, making the value less, resulting in more people quitting, and so on and so on.
There are some persons that - much like this message board - I only "knew" via virtual interactions on twitter. In the case of twitter, these persons created interactions where I would learn a lot of information, which while not particularly valuable to me in terms of anything actionable, were brain stimulating and part of my knowledge base. It only takes 20% of them to vanish to make the feed less stimulating to the point where twitter is just boring crap. And once that happens the other 80% quit too.
I'd love to see a comparison from 12 months ago to today of number of tweets from the people I follow. I suspect it's down by 50% or more.
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Happy one year anniversary of Musk purchasing The Twitter. Looks like it is all going as planned.
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He’s not busy getting rid of the x rated spam bots, I can tell you that.
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Long gone are the days of noblesse oblige. I can't see Musk founding a library or museum any time soon.
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Carnegie didn’t have to pay much income tax
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https://youtu.be/_OZuF5cI6Xk?si=zejR5e1qaAmilnF8
"You are upsetting me."
This guy is a fucking pussy.
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Yes Don is an ineffectual pussy.
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Yes Don is an ineffectual pussy.
It appears the Musk Cult is looking to rival the Fields Cult....
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Yes Don is an ineffectual pussy.
Lemon was courteous, but he eviscerated, mutilated, and pulverized Elon on every single point of contention.
Musk was defensive, combative, a weasel, racist, sexist, and just plain factually wrong.
He thinks an airline training some graduates of HBCs is going to get people killed?
Elon had a tough childhood in an apartheid country. His parents got divorced, he had a strained relationship with daddy, and he was bullied at his exclusive private school.
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Spitting facts…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1771590516552949837?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Spitting [alternative] facts…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1771590516552949837?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
fify
I'd like to see the FBI data for that.
Typi
In really, black murderers account for 90% of black murder victims; whites 7%.
Whites murderers account for about 84% of white murder victims; blacks about 14%.
The confusion can come from converting murder rates per 1,000,000 to percentages or vice versa. Or something like that.
Depending on how Latinos are treated whites are 60 to 80% of the population. Blacks are 12.5 to 13.5%. Failure to account for that distorts the numbers.
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https://twitter.com/RyanShead/status/1771621123765031149?t=oTumfOzItzDEaVLk0EWVNA&s=19
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PhD rips Musk a new one.
https://twitter.com/kareem_carr/status/1655614482432012289?t=xxbv1MHKDtyElIiq5_ra9Q&s=19
"The original table had percentages and those seem to have been used to reverse engineer the numbers in the bar chart.
...[It] communicates clearly the fact that the rates at which white victims experience violent crime involving black offenders is very similar to the overall percentage of black people in the population (14.6%).
This point is *actively* obscured by turning these percentages into counts in the graph."
"In a truly race-blind society, where most of the people are white and where victims are being selected purely at random, the vast majority of crimes committed by black offenders *should* involve white victims."
"... the vast majority of violent crimes in America involve white victims and white offenders.
If we thought race was a huge factor, and wanted to make the biggest impact on crime numbers, we might want to start there."
"According to Pew Research, the most common age of White Americans in 2018 is 58. For Black Americans, it's 27.
As you can imagine, there's probably not a lot of 58 year olds running around committing violent crime.
"When we compare the white population to the black population without adjustment, we are essentially comparing 58 year olds to 27 year olds.'
... More at link
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PhD rips Musk a new one.
https://twitter.com/kareem_carr/status/1655614482432012289?t=xxbv1MHKDtyElIiq5_ra9Q&s=19
A PhD that doesn't understand per capita apparently
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A PhD that doesn't understand per capita apparently
Please explain.
How about the earlier chart that claims blacks are responsible for 44% of white murder victims and whites 37%? I know that smells wrong.
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72.7% of statistics are made up on the spot. Another 5
% are distorted from raw data to support a preconceived conclusion. The other 2.3% should not be trusted. I tend to trust the ones that support what I know to be true. /s
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Interesting...had heard he was a big free speech guy.
https://www.businessinsider.com/judge-throws-out-hate-speech-lawsuit-elon-musk-x-2024-3
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Things seem to be going great at The Twotter...Contrary to Custard's claims, it still seems to still be a Progressive Paradise with the antisemitic content driving away advertisers....
https://awfulannouncing.com/twitter/x-revenue-ceo-linda-yaccarino-begged-quit.html
X saw 53 percent Q2 revenue decline while friends ‘have begged’ CEO Linda Yaccarino to quit
Beyond that, advertising is one of the specific areas where Musk-era X is far different from its predecessor Twitter. And it’s an area where it’s been particularly under fire, including in sports, with many big sports broadcasters pausing advertising or pulling out altogether last fall after Musk’s lackluster response to their content being shown next to antisemitic posts.
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Things seem to be going great at The Twotter...Contrary to Custard's claims, it still seems to still be a Progressive Paradise with the antisemitic content driving away advertisers....
https://awfulannouncing.com/twitter/x-revenue-ceo-linda-yaccarino-begged-quit.html
X saw 53 percent Q2 revenue decline while friends ‘have begged’ CEO Linda Yaccarino to quit
Beyond that, advertising is one of the specific areas where Musk-era X is far different from its predecessor Twitter. And it’s an area where it’s been particularly under fire, including in sports, with many big sports broadcasters pausing advertising or pulling out altogether last fall after Musk’s lackluster response to their content being shown next to antisemitic posts.
Pro-tip: She has a massive severance clause but will get nada if she quits.
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https://www.the-express.com/news/us-news/144560/elon-musk-venezuela-election-fraud
Sounds like a website you can trust for accurate information....
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/elon-musk-joins-jim-jordan-s-war-on-free-enterprise-with-new-lawsuit/ar-AA1olKMR?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=e3e9bd7f34c14492a2fb2f5b5fbc93fb&ei=19
No wonder he loves Trump - he digs the ridiculous lawsuits. Suing companies for not advertising on his platform?
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Musk should be in prison.
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Musk should be in prison.
well, he did enter the country illegally...
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Musk should be in prison.
Did you get that from Jo too?
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Did you get that from Jo too?
Did she ignore your advances?
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Why else for all the obsessive hate for Jo?
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Why else for all the obsessive hate for Jo?
Yeah, she isn't any worse, or better, than anyone else.
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She’s basically an attention seeking profane meme bot trying to pass herself off as an edgy attractive woman, no hate here, but not someone whose opinion I value.
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She’s basically an attention seeking profane meme bot trying to pass herself off as an edgy attractive woman, no hate here, but not someone whose opinion I value.
She’s got about a million people who feel she’s worth following. Gonna guess you’ve followed people I wouldn’t want opinions from.
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Am I about to get the Danny Parkins meme treatment about how she forms all of my opinions for me?! I highly doubt she’s radical enough for me tbh.
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She’s got about a million people who feel she’s worth following. Gonna guess you’ve followed people I wouldn’t want opinions from.
Robb!
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Robb!
How many bots are following Robb?
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Robb!
I did laugh audibly.
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I was pretty proud of myself for that.
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I think I actually follow Robb.
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I think I actually follow Robb.
I do too and don’t know why…
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Mr. Free Speech For Me, But Not For Thee....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1pFv6b
There appear, however, to be some exceptions to Musk's commitment to the First Amendment.
After NPR published a story this week detailing how former President Donald Trump's campaign may have violated federal law by filming at Arlington National Cemetery, X flagged the article, warning it may be "unsafe or spammy."
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Can’t believe I used to admire that clown. He is a shit stain on the forehead of America.
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Mr. Free Speech For Me, But Not For Thee....
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ar-AA1pFv6b
There appear, however, to be some exceptions to Musk's commitment to the First Amendment.
After NPR published a story this week detailing how former President Donald Trump's campaign may have violated federal law by filming at Arlington National Cemetery, X flagged the article, warning it may be "unsafe or spammy."
That’s definitely sketchy but they didn’t take it down or delete it did they?
Zuck just admitted they catered to Biden’s demands on Covid and demoted anything to do with Hunter’s laptop at the behest of the FBI, which is clearly election interference.
Turns out it wasn’t Russian misinformation after all, but who cares because it worked right?
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That’s definitely sketchy but they didn’t take it down or delete it did they?
Zuck just admitted they catered to Biden’s demands on Covid and demoted anything to do with Hunter’s laptop at the behest of the FBI, which is clearly election interference.
Turns out it wasn’t Russian misinformation after all, but who cares because it worked right?
A. Yes, the government should notwarn against health misinformation so that more people could, note could, get sick and possibly die (while increasing governmental health costs in the process).
B. You are presuming the FBI actually knew it was not a Soviet operation when warning that it could be ANOTHER foreign misinformation campaign.
C. Last I heard, the scum that run The FaceBook and The Twotter were still free to do what they wanted to try and make money and were not forced to delete anything they didn't want to delete.
But, feel free to be aggrieved for poor victims like Zuck and Elon.
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Alexander Smirnov
Some of the lap top was authenticated. None of it was particularly interesting if his name was Hunter Jones.
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A. Yes, the government should notwarn against health misinformation so that more people could, note could, get sick and possibly die (while increasing governmental health costs in the process).
B. You are presuming the FBI actually knew it was not a Soviet operation when warning that it could be ANOTHER foreign misinformation campaign.
C. Last I heard, the scum that run The FaceBook and The Twotter were still free to do what they wanted to try and make money and were not forced to delete anything they didn't want to delete.
But, feel free to be aggrieved for poor victims like Zuck and Elon.
If only “misinformation” was so black and white. Who’s the arbiter of misinformation?
Tyranny is often disguised as compassion.
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If only “misinformation” was so black and white. Who’s the arbiter of misinformation?
Tyranny is often disguised as compassion.
GMAFB. How much foreign misinformation was/is the FBI right about? We don't get to hear about that. We hear about Comey screwing up the email investigation right before the 2016 election and the laptop though.
How much was the government right about COVID misinformation at the time?
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!!!!!!
If only “misinformation” was so black and white. Who’s the arbiter of misinformation?
Tyranny is often disguised as compassion.
Truth can be discerned by a consensus of qualified experts.
Often? Maybe sometimes.
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I tend to think the FBI has far better information and sources on what the Soviets are doing than Zuck does. Doesn't mean they always get it right....
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A. Yes, the government should notwarn against health misinformation so that more people could, note could, get sick and possibly die (while increasing governmental health costs in the process).
B. You are presuming the FBI actually knew it was not a Soviet operation when warning that it could be ANOTHER foreign misinformation campaign.
C. Last I heard, the scum that run The FaceBook and The Twotter were still free to do what they wanted to try and make money and were not forced to delete anything they didn't want to delete.
But, feel free to be aggrieved for poor victims like Zuck and Elon.
🎯
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There were a lot of things that contributed to Hillary’s loss but probably nothing more than Comey did.
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There were a lot of things that contributed to Hillary’s loss but probably nothing more than Comey did.
That was 8 years ago. People don't remember 5 years ago when some hospitals were overflowing due to the COVID and no one knew how to treat it.
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That was 8 years ago. People don't remember 5 years ago when some hospitals were overflowing due to the COVID and no one knew how to treat it.
Inject bleach, and take ivermectin, duh.
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!!!!!!
Truth can be discerned by a consensus of qualified experts.
Often? Maybe sometimes.
Ahh yes. Qualified experts that aren’t ever subjected to any kind of financial or other incentive to give the “right” answer. Good lord you guys should know better.
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Trust the science, science is unbiased!
Who funded the scientists?
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I tend to think the FBI has far better information and sources on what the Soviets are doing than Zuck does. Doesn't mean they always get it right....
Walking case of confirmation bias tainted with a bit of whataboutism but definitely no sign of, “yeah everyone is doing it”
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Walking case of confirmation bias tainted with a bit of whataboutism but definitely no sign of, “yeah everyone is doing it”
No, you asked "Who’s the arbiter of misinformation?" You just don't like the answer. It sure as hell isn't The FaceBook or the Twotter. They are businesses and don't give a shit as long as they are getting clicks.
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No, you asked "Who’s the arbiter of misinformation?" You just don't like the answer. It sure as hell isn't The FaceBook or the Twotter. They are businesses and don't give a shit as long as they are getting clicks.
The government told the information businesses what was misinformation, and the information businesses did what they were asked to do by the government. Just like newspapers and journalists have done since news became a thing. That makes the government the de facto arbiter of truth and misinformation. Stop playing dumb.
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The government told the information businesses what was misinformation, and the information businesses did what they were asked to do by the government. Just like newspapers and journalists have done since news became a thing. That makes the government the de facto arbiter of truth and misinformation. Stop playing dumb.
In the instance of foreign election misinformation, they have a better idea generally of what is going on, yes. I would not say that is necessarily true in other instances, though. The government is not going to the FaceBook to point out misinformation posted by TMZ about Taylor Swift or Beyonce being at the DNC.
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But surely you can see the potential issues, no?
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But surely you can see the potential issues, no?
I know the frogs are gay. That's a huge issue, IMO.
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But surely you can see the potential issues, no?
Sure. Also see big issues with doing nothing and letting the Soviets and Commie Chinese run amuck.
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Sure. Also see big issues with doing nothing and letting the Soviets and Commie Chinese run amuck.
Ever seen a Chinese frog?
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Ever seen a Chinese frog?
Can't say that I have.
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Can't say that I have.
Well, I haven't either. But if I ever do, and it turns out to be gay, I just don't know what the fuck I'm gonna do.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/xqDfbkVR/Screenshot-20240831-141455-2.png) (https://postimg.cc/n92byhzj)
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Being a misogynistic idiot, apparently.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0Qg2TJJf/IMG-8763.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZ8bFqLG)
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Being a misogynistic idiot, apparently.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0Qg2TJJf/IMG-8763.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XZ8bFqLG)
He's a totally moronic person.
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He's a totally moronic person.
I know one of his biographers. We were drinking at a campout so he let his guard down and said "We start off seeing these guys as some sort of Master of the Universe, but really they are just overgrown boys with a lot of money"
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I know one of his biographers. We were drinking at a campout so he let his guard down and said "We start off seeing these guys as some sort of Master of the Universe, but really they are just overgrown boys with a lot of money"
Yeah. All they have to do is not fuck up and lose all of it. Elon is trying to lose it with his Twitter acquisition, lol.
There is something to be said for the lucky sperm club.
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Yeah. All they have to do is not fuck up and lose all of it. Elon is trying to lose it with his Twitter acquisition, lol.
There is something to be said for the lucky sperm club.
in his case he sort of fell ass backwards into a position where he could bluster his way into PayPal. Then he thought "electric car, cool" and blustered his way into there and fucked over some of the early Tesla people, and thought "Space - cool" and blustered his way into that. His timing was awesome in that the Government wants - probably correctly - to encourage EV development and he collected a lot of that money, and we neglected NASA and now are paying Musk for essential rocket launches. Add in that he has the bluster and charisma of Trump, which until you unpack it seems pretty great, and that ran the Tesla stock up beyond where it presumably should be.
The fact that most of this was luck, bluster, and dickishness as opposed to actual skill is being exposed - for both Trump and Musk.
If you look at Gates, Jobs, Bezos, Page/Brin, Zuckerberg, and Jensen, they were actually part of the creative and engineering process, founded their companies and built them by force of their own savvy and will. That's why their firms are on such solid footing. Not to say that some of them don't have their own pecadillos and screwups, but I can respect them a hell of a lot more than Musk.
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Wonder if the Winklevoss twins respect Zuckerberg.
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Wonder if the Winklevoss twins respect Zuckerberg.
Well you got a good point here…
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Wonder if the Winklevoss twins respect Zuckerberg.
They sued and got paid. Rightly so. They had an idea, a good one, with no ability to execute, but it was still there idea.
After that - Zuck built a company - starting from the ground up writing code and being intricately involved in it's evolution.
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“And no one is even trying to assassinate Biden/Kamala 🤔,” Musk wrote in the now-deleted X post.
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He is right. This is exactly what and why the Democrats are doing it for letting all these illegals in and sending them to these states. We all know it and there’s really no defending it. It is election fraud.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1835997285425058002?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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He is right. This is exactly what and why the Democrats are doing it for letting all these illegals in and sending them to these states. We all know it and there’s really no defending it. It is election fraud.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1835997285425058002?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
when you're stanning Elon Musk, you've jumped the shark
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when you're stanning Elon Musk, you've jumped the shark
Like I said, tell me he’s not right.
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Like I said, tell me he’s not right.
He's not right
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He's not right
They’re absolutely doing that. It’s planned and calculated.
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Murph doesn’t even have an answer because it’s plainly obvious to anyone with an IQ above resting pulse rate what’s going on.
Well, um, MUSK, RUSSIAAAAAA derrrrrrrr……
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Aah…Judge Judy and Custard are always on the lookout for new anti-immigrant talking points that spread misinformation. I think Musk should be the first subject of the Harris/Walz denaturalization and deportation plan.
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Musk! Russia! Trump!
(Repeat)
Very telling that Alum wants to deport the guy who spent 44 billion dollars to defend freedom of speech.
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Murph doesn’t even have an answer because it’s plainly obvious to anyone with an IQ above resting pulse rate what’s going on.
Well, um, MUSK, RUSSIAAAAAA derrrrrrrr……
Well my resting pulse is 41, and it's not plainly obvious to me, yet I can type this sentence, so we have a conundrum
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Musk! Russia! Trump!
(Repeat)
Very telling that Alum wants to deport the guy who spent 44 billion dollars to defend freedom of speech.
Very telling that you say he "spent 44 billion dollars", not "invested 44 billion dollars". Which is why that 44 billion dollars is up in smoke like a doobie on the Joe Rogan show.
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Musk! Russia! Trump!
(Repeat)
Very telling that Alum wants to deport the guy who spent 44 billion dollars to defend freedom of speech.
Simping for billionaire fascists 101.
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Musk! Russia! Trump!
(Repeat)
Very telling that Alum wants to deport the guy who spent 44 billion dollars to defend freedom of speech.
I know you don't like to hear anyone criticizing Elon, but his path to oligarchy would have been smoother if he hadn't put his deranged fascist assholery on public display.
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Simping for billionaire fascists 101.
And here you are defending Democrats who literally are bringing in tens of thousands of illegals to try and rig elections. Good job! No wonder you killed yourself!
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Musk! Russia! Trump!
(Repeat)
Very telling that Alum wants to deport the guy who spent 44 billion dollars to defend freedom of speech.
Ok. I laughed out loud.
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Yeah, that's pretty good
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Republicans have been crying voter fraud for years, and there’s been virtually nothing that shows significant levels of voter fraud ever. Particularly in a national election. The problem
for you guys is that old people are dying.
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Saw a headline this morning or yesterday that Twitter profits were down bigly.
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Twitter is like a storefront that doesn't make money. There's a reason for it...
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“I’ll say what I want to say,” the tech mogul added, “and if the consequence of that is losing money, then so be it.”
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Republicans have been crying voter fraud for years, and there’s been virtually nothing that shows significant levels of voter fraud ever. Particularly in a national election. The problem
for you guys is that old people are dying.
AKA Democrats that organized the cheating in their districts investigated themselves and held themselves harmless.
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They're all bad. So, apparently Trump got his dick sucked by this Laura Loomer chick. And, I guess that's bad. But when Clinton was getting his dick sucked by Monica Lewinsky, I distinctly remember my father in law (RIP) saying, hey, it's just a blowjob. Jeez why do people care so much.
My father in law was a moron and a UAW person that was told to vote democrat, regardless. So he actually believed that Clinton was a great person. Regardless of the dick sucking in the white house.
It's all fucked up. Has been since the beginning of this great nation. Problem is, Trump has somehow convinced the people that he hates to love him. I still haven't figured that out. He has to have some Jedi powers or some shit.
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Hey man the guy from Pawn Stars stood up at a rally and talked about how much Trump cares for the little guy and if you can’t believe him then I’m not sure who you can believe. And personally I wouldn’t trust any politician that’s not getting his or her dick sucked regularly.
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Hey man the guy from Pawn Stars stood up at a rally and talked about how much Trump cares for the little guy and if you can’t believe him then I’m not sure who you can believe. And personally I wouldn’t trust any politician that’s not getting his or her dick sucked regularly.
Oh man. That's a great point. I mean, the Pawn Stars guy is a measuring stick for the average American. And, it's difficult being an old married guy that doesn't get that blow job on a regular basis. I mean, I get pussy, which is nice, but once in a while a good old fashioned blowjob with completion in the mouth would be amazing.
Ah well.
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We have an unlimited BJ policy. It’s like my “unlimited PTO” policy at work. I use it judiciously. With great power comes great responsibility.
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And here you are defending Democrats who literally are bringing in tens of thousands of illegals to try and rig elections. Good job! No wonder you killed yourself!
Stick with the script. tens of MILLIONS....
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Saw a headline this morning or yesterday that Twitter profits were down bigly.
profits? they've never turned a profit
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We have an unlimited BJ policy. It’s like my “unlimited PTO” policy at work. I use it judiciously. With great power comes great responsibility.
Haha, I have the unlimited PTO now too. It's great if you don't have a shitty boss.
As far as unlimited BJ, well, yeah. Wedding cake fucks that whole thing up, regrettably.
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profits? they've never turned a profit
Yes. It's like a storefront that, for some reason, is never busy...
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AKA Democrats that organized the cheating in their districts investigated themselves and held themselves harmless.
Case and point - Brad Raffensberger, Doug Ducey
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Hey man the guy from Pawn Stars stood up at a rally and talked about how much Trump cares for the little guy and if you can’t believe him then I’m not sure who you can believe. And personally I wouldn’t trust any politician that’s not getting his or her dick sucked regularly.
The dude whose whole business in life is taking advantage of people who are broke knows that trump cares for those people who are broke.
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Stick with the script. tens of MILLIONS....
Exactly right. Was hoping I could put my faith in you to correct/point out my error. Wanted to clarify if you were/weren’t being disingenuous in our argument.
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Exactly right. Was hoping I could put my faith in you to correct/point out my error. Wanted to clarify if you were/weren’t being disingenuous in our argument.
In a previous life I was a director of fictional movies, I still have the skills as you note.
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In a previous life I was a director of fictional movies, I still have the skills as you note.
I was trans, illegal, ate cats, and liberal in mine. So appears we have things in common after all…
Oh rich too from illegal insider trading. It’s a perk I hear to be a Democrat!
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He is right. This is exactly what and why the Democrats are doing it for letting all these illegals in and sending them to these states. We all know it and there’s really no defending it. It is election fraud.
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1835997285425058002?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
These guys show their work: https://www.thirdway.org/memo/is-illegal-immigration-really-a-democratic-plot-to-sway-congressional-apportionment
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He bought Twitter primarily for HIS freedom of speech, not yours.
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profits? they've never turned a profit
My bad, must have been revenue. Although I did read they’ve turned a profit a couple of years.
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I’m fairly certain Musk didn’t buy Twitter so Custard could give the world Hell on the Internet.
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He bought Twitter primarily for HIS freedom of speech, not yours.
I don’t think the facts align with your argument.
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I don’t think the facts align with your argument.
Apparently you don’t follow Elon on The Twotter.
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Apparently you don’t follow Elon on The Twotter.
Is he restricting everyone but himself?
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Is he restricting everyone but himself?
Freedom of speech isn’t given to you (or taken away) by the CEO/Owner of the Twotter. It’s a hell of a platform for the world’s richest man to spew his fascist agenda, though.
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Oh, he isn't restricting anything. Just get on there and scroll. It won't take long to see a girl's ass. Her pussy will soon follow.
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Freedom of speech isn’t given to you (or taken away) by the CEO/Owner of the Twotter. It’s a hell of a platform for the world’s richest man to spew his fascist agenda, though.
You said he did it for his own free speech and not mine. He already had a platform before he took over Twitter. Lots of people didn’t or had been deplatformed under previous management and have now been replatformed. You could make a really good argument some or maybe even most of those people don’t deserve a platform and I’d probably agree with you.
But not buying that it’s only about his free speech. It’s about allowing those conservative and/or non-establishment voices to have a platform again, which is what you don’t like.
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I’d call it 80/20 in favor of Elon.
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Would maybe give you 70/30.
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But rest assured, the impetus to buy Twitter wasn’t Custard’s freedom of speech.
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You think he spent 70% of 44 billion so his tweets wouldn’t get deleted?
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You think he spent 70% of 44 billion so his tweets wouldn’t get deleted?
This ultra-simplistic conclusion explains our impasse.
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You said it was 70/30 for Musk’s freedom of speech.
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You said it was 70/30 for Musk’s freedom of speech.
You seem to be looking at it simply as a right to post his tweets. He bought it because it’s the ultimate megaphone for his personal and professional agenda.
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It’s pretty clear that Musk, along with certain moderate and conservative groups, didn’t want to go through another election cycle with all the major social media platforms being Democrat controlled. 44 billion is pretty cheap when you think about it. That’s just one of our normal sized payments to the war in Ukraine.
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Hint: He didn’t spend 44 billion to protect tweets.
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It’s pretty clear that Musk, along with certain moderate and conservative groups, didn’t want to go through another election cycle with all the major social media platforms being Democrat controlled. 44 billion is pretty cheap when you think about it. That’s just one of our normal sized payments to the war in Ukraine.
for 44 billion he could have bought and shut down MSNBC and CNN.
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The notion that Elon spent 44 billion because he cared about Custard’s tweets is cute.
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for 44 billion he could have bought and shut down MSNBC and CNN.
That vacuum is easily and quickly filled by equivalent outlets. Twitter usage, impressions, habit, format, etc are unique and more impactful. Maybe not long term over many years as more people leave it, but over the last couple it has been for sure.
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The notion that Elon spent 44 billion because he cared about Custard’s tweets is cute.
🤔
Did I ever attempt to argue that he does? (Assuming I tweeted, which I don’t)
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🤔
Did I ever attempt to argue that he does? (Assuming I tweeted, which I don’t)
You and your 5 million conservative friends.
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He was buying influence much more than he was protecting freedom of speech.
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Twitter usage, impressions, habit, format, etc are unique and more impactful.
If this were even remotely true, Justin Fields would have been traded for far more than a contingent 4th round draft pick.
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You and your 5 million conservative friends.
But aren’t you arguing that millions of sycophants are exactly what he wants?
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If this were even remotely true, Justin Fields would have been traded for far more than a contingent 4th round draft pick.
It has its limitations
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Twitter, er X, is a dumpster fire of bots, spam and disinformation. Even if you curate your feed, it's like wading through a river of shit to eventually get to clean water.
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He was buying influence much more than he was protecting freedom of speech.
I think the folly of this thread is anyone thinking that anything going on in Musk's head is rational and a function of reasoned decision making, whether good or bad reasons.
That dude is broken beyond repair. He's basically a random number generator
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Twitter, er X, is a dumpster fire of bots, spam and disinformation. Even if you curate your feed, it's like wading through a river of shit to eventually get to clean water.
So, it is just like HQ2?
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So, it is just like HQ2?
Not so much. I think this place has more of a Romper Room vibe.
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But aren’t you arguing that millions of sycophants are exactly what he wants?
Sure, but he’s not doing it for you and your friends. He’s doing it for him.
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I will say that I’m seeing quite a bit less of the sexbots on The Twotter the last few weeks.
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It has its limitations
Lol
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I will say that I’m seeing quite a bit less of the sexbots on The Twotter the last few weeks.
Thoughts and prayers for your boners.
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Thoughts and prayers for your boners.
There are better websites for that.
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Yeah they’ve really cleaned up the porn I’ve noticed.
Not surprising that Alum has noticed a proliferation of misinformation now that it isn’t an echo chamber for the left.
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Yeah they’ve really cleaned up the porn I’ve noticed.
Not surprising that Alum has noticed a proliferation of misinformation now that it isn’t an echo chamber for the left.
Twitter was a dumpster fire before Musk bought the platform. Rarely will you see me share a post from the site.
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Yeah they’ve really cleaned up the porn I’ve noticed.
Not surprising that Alum has noticed a proliferation of misinformation now that it isn’t an echo chamber for the left.
Hmmmm. Maybe Alum is on to something?
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Yeah they’ve really cleaned up the porn I’ve noticed.
Not surprising that Alum has noticed a proliferation of misinformation now that it isn’t an echo chamber for the left.
yes, quite the coincidence ::)
but im sure its bummed about the lack of porn now
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Apparently censoring content upon request, is what he is doing... Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2024/09/25/elon-musk-x-twitter-free-speech-government-requests/
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What???!!! Wait a minute. I thought Custard's guy rescued Twitter because he doesn't censor shit.
I'm so confused...
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Maybe I’m not seeing all of it but this hit piece seems woefully short on tangible information.
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Maybe I’m not seeing all of it but this hit piece seems woefully short on tangible information.
So this hit piece has a ton in common with Elon Musk
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I feel bad for a potential trillionaire having hit pieces thrown at him. I mean, that's awful. How will he ever recover.
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God damn. I can't believe people actually want me to feel sorry for Elon fucking Musk.
That's mind boggling.
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Imagine having more money than anyone else on the planet and you just spend your time spreading misinformation, bogus claims and debunked rumors online. We gotta accelerate the timetable on that Mars expedition that he's going to lead.
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Imagine having more money than anyone else on the planet and you just spend your time spreading misinformation, bogus claims and debunked rumors online. We gotta accelerate the timetable on that Mars expedition that he's going to lead.
And don't forget, somehow, he's a victim.
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Who said he was a victim?
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Who said he was a victim?
Elon.
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Who said he was a victim?
Usually, when people reference “hit pieces”, there’s some victimology involved. And yes, I agree with Tempo that Elon views himself as a victim.
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https://www.mediaite.com/election-2024/just-in-journalist-ken-klippenstein-suspended-by-x-after-publishing-hacked-jd-vance-dossier/
Hmmmm
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Elon is saving free speech!
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhHymFFm/IMG-9037.png) (https://postimg.cc/zL5DFx5P)
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https://www.mediaite.com/election-2024/just-in-journalist-ken-klippenstein-suspended-by-x-after-publishing-hacked-jd-vance-dossier/
Hmmmm
Beat me to it. For not being on The Twotter, PAMan stays pretty informed about what’s happening there.
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Beat me to it. For not being on The Twotter, PAMan stays pretty informed about what’s happening there.
ThePAMan knows what is going on everywhere. Except when I don't.
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From your own link: the dossier contained unredacted personal information like his address and social security number, which is and definitely should be against the platform rules.
Again you guys had ZERO qualms suspending scads of people you simply didn’t agree with before Musk took over.
You’re not actually concerned about “misinformation” you’re just mad it isn’t a Democrat propaganda platform anymore. And you’re especially mad at Elon because you thought he was one of you. You’re hurt.
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From your own link: the dossier contained unredacted personal information like his address and social security number, which is and definitely should be against the platform rules.
Again you guys had ZERO qualms suspending scads of people you simply didn’t agree with before Musk took over.
You’re not actually concerned about “misinformation” you’re just mad it isn’t a Democrat propaganda platform anymore. And you’re especially mad at Elon because you thought he was one of you. You’re hurt.
I thought it was a Free Speech Zone?
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From your own link: the dossier contained unredacted personal information like his address and social security number, which is and definitely should be against the platform rules.
Again you guys had ZERO qualms suspending scads of people you simply didn’t agree with before Musk took over.
You’re not actually concerned about “misinformation” you’re just mad it isn’t a Democrat propaganda platform anymore. And you’re especially mad at Elon because you thought he was one of you. You’re hurt.
Should be? perhaps
Is? that *used to be* against platform rules, until Musk changed said rules to allow the Hunter Biden shit to be disseminated.
As I test I posted your home address, no problem
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It’s not like anyone here has my social, but it’s not like Custard has had any problem with my personal information being used here. Whatever they can find seems to be fair game.
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You pretty much doxxed yourself and to my knowledge I haven’t allowed any info to be posted here that isn’t readily accessible from your public twitter account. 🤷🏻♂️
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You pretty much doxxed yourself and to my knowledge I haven’t allowed any info to be posted here that isn’t readily accessible from your public twitter account. 🤷🏻♂️
But that was for the 150 people and the 3m bots on The Twotter to see, not the 6 people here.
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But did the bots on Twitter draw a penis to his mouth?!?!
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But did the bots on Twitter draw a penis to his mouth?!?!
Maybe? I'm the wrong person to ask.
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Maybe? I'm the wrong person to ask.
I think Elon did it. He’s a shitstain on the forehead of America, per Tempo.
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But did the bots on Twitter draw a penis to his mouth?!?!
Good question. Even bots should get free speech.
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I think Elon did it. He’s a shitstain on the forehead of America, per Tempo.
Some will decry a fascistic billionaire using his wealth for nefarious purposes, and some will cheerlead him. There’s no accounting for taste.
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The first amendment is nefarious? Guess PMSMan was right about you.
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Lololololololol
Yet another person who doesn’t understand the First Amendment. And doesn’t understand when he’s being used as a pawn.
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This guy does a good job of calling Elon out on the regular.
(https://i.postimg.cc/0QNTPr2H/IMG-9040.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/QBR4q87p)
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Let’s just cut to the chase and call a spade a spade.
Here’s the assumption you and most others in this sub forum operate under:
Left wing red meat propaganda = news
Right wing red meat propaganda = misinformation
You don’t like Musk, he’s evil and trying to take over the world now because you used to think he was one of you and now you know he’s not so you’re jilted.
Also Luke, like most, doesn’t know what gaslighting means.
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It is his company and he can do what he wants.
Tempo loves to complain about the right wing yet he supports them financially via his use of The Twotter and listening to The Score (because he is back listening and supporting the payments Audacy makes to the Ricketts, who then contribute to Trump, et al.).
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Lol both of you are nuts
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Lol both of you are nuts
Donald Trump thanks you for listening to The Score and using The Twotter.
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Let’s just cut to the chase and call a spade a spade.
Here’s the assumption you and most others in this sub forum operate under:
Left wing red meat propaganda = news
Right wing red meat propaganda = misinformation
You don’t like Musk, he’s evil and trying to take over the world now because you used to think he was one of you and now you know he’s not so you’re jilted.
Also Luke, like most, doesn’t know what gaslighting means.
Psst! Musk's an ass and always has been. Hope this helps to clear things up.
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As Bill Maher—liberal enemy of the left—points out, liberals used to be skeptical of big business interests, war hawking, limitations on free speech. Now those are cornerstones of the modern left.
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Let’s just cut to the chase and call a spade a spade.
dats racist
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You don’t like Musk, he’s evil and trying to take over the world now because you used to think he was one of you and now you know he’s not so you’re jilted.
I don't think Musk is evil. It's just that he's high functioning autistic, if that. He has no ability to read social cues, no concept of empathy. Mix that in with a hundred billion dollars and it's bad news.
It's not funny that he would be on stage at a major conference and say to his advertisers "Go fuck yourself. Let me repeat, go fuck yourself". It's not mavericky or shaking things up. It's a sign that much of his brain operates on a pre-school level.
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Probably from all the vaccines
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As Bill Maher—liberal enemy of the left—points out, liberals used to be skeptical of big business interests, war hawking, limitations on free speech. Now those are cornerstones of the modern left.
Psst! Many on the left are still skeptical of those things? Custard is our strawman building expert.
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Psst! Many on the left are still skeptical of those things? Custard is our strawman building expert.
must be the vaccines
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Psst! Many on the left are still skeptical of those things? Custard is our strawman building expert.
Tempo is skeptical of those things....as he supports Trump financially by listening to The Score and being on The Twotter....
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Liberals used to be angry victims. Now it's Trump Republicans..
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Liberals used to be angry victims. Now it's Trump Republicans..
Soccer loving snowflakes!
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Liberals used to be angry victims. Now it's Trump Republicans..
And Tempo.
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Never liked that as an insult. Each snowflake is unique and intricate. Get enough of them together, you got a blizzard. Or an avalanche.
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Never liked that as an insult. Each snowflake is unique and intricate. Get enough of them together, you got a blizzard. Or an avalanche.
Which is why America is currently fucked. Snowflakes galore,
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Oh, the irony.
(https://i.postimg.cc/7ZtYL2r8/IMG-9043.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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PAMan is the most Republican Democrat I’ve ever encountered.
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Which is why America is currently fucked. Snowflakes galore,
My late father used to talk a lot about the pussification of America back in the 90s.
Didn’t really get it at the time, but I sure do now. Someone posted something about declining testosterone in here a while back, would make sense.
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My late father used to talk a lot about the pussification of America back in the 90s.
Didn’t really get it at the time, but I sure do now. Someone posted something about declining testosterone in here a while back, would make sense.
Plenty of testosterone. Doesn't do one whit of good when you are 5'10 325 lbs of Tub of Goo
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George calls out Murph at the end
https://youtu.be/sSrzwB1DVFs
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I'm more in favor of kinder and gentler badassness. What a Buddhist leader in Japan called soft power. Of course, his security consisted of heavily armed suits and martial arts black belts. Anyway, kindness, compassion, and tolerance do feel better than hatred, anger, and resentment.
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George calls out Murph at the end
https://youtu.be/sSrzwB1DVFs
George Carlin wouldn’t agree with your political outlook.
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George Carlin wouldn’t agree with your political outlook.
I’ve always been pretty damn aligned with George’s way of thinking. If you think he’d be on the side of what constitutes the progressive movement in 2024, you’re sadly mistaken.
Carlin stood up for the little guy and threw grenades at political and corporate bullshit. He celebrated practicality, common sense, direct language, and truth. He appreciated strong masculine men and strong feminine women.
He decried selfishness and hedonism, pride and boastfulness, attacks on free speech and government sponsored censorship.
Not much of that lines up with 2024 Democrat messaging.
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Carlin was a disaffected liberal. Something I can relate to.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/852PrH8r/IMG-9046.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/DJcK91w2)
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Elon is saving free speech!
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhHymFFm/IMG-9037.png) (https://postimg.cc/zL5DFx5P)
Isn’t turnabout fair play?
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Isn’t turnabout fair play?
Not when you’re the “saver of free speech.”
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Not when you’re the “saver of free speech.”
Democrats portray themselves as much different than they are. Where is your outrage on here?!
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Carlin was a self described left of cente. He might not be enamored with Hollywood elite liberals, but he wouldn't support right populism.
https://youtu.be/OnDG0WuXvak
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Democrats portray themselves as much different than they are. Where is your outrage on here?!
For example?
Do you mean Democrats portray themselves much different than Trumpers portray them?
I say Trumpers because so many actual Republicans are endorsing Harris and Walz despite legitimate policy differences.
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I’m certainly not arguing that Carlin wasn’t left of center, especially back then.
But the entire political spectrum has shifted so much to the left since then that PAMan, a Democrat, is regularly called a Republican here for having moderate views.
My views have pretty much always aligned with Carlin’s, which is why I’ve always been such a fan. I voted for Obama in 08, Romney in 12, Johnson in 16 (specifically because I couldn’t bring myself to vote for Hillary or Trump) didn’t vote in 2020 because Covid (but would have voted third party).
No party exists that caters to my political leanings and feelings and moreover, like George, I’ve realized we only have the illusion of choice and I refuse to let myself be fooled or sucked in by it.
But I’m a right winger in the eyes of the progressive bent here because, like PAMan, I reject much of the far left progressive ideology and their hypocrisy.
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Yeah, I guess you can’t believe him OR the border patrol on the subject, huh ray?! Weird…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1839907391799722381?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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I’m certainly not arguing that Carlin wasn’t left of center, especially back then.
But the entire political spectrum has shifted so much to the left since then that PAMan, a Democrat, is regularly called a Republican here for having moderate views.
Most people I talk with think the shift has been to the right. So much so that Dick Cheney endorses the Democrat for President.
I see it differently. The spectrum hasn't shifted. It has been rearranged again.
Carlin said Democrats care about people; Republicans care about property. That is why he leaned left and that hasn't changed.
btw, I first started following Carlin when he was the hippy dippy weather man on the Smothers Brothers Show.
Years later, when the youngest son was about 14, circa 1992, his reaction was what Carlin said was true, but he didn't think it was funny.
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Yeah, I guess you can’t believe him OR the border patrol on the subject, huh ray?! Weird…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1839907391799722381?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/border-patrol-union-backs-senate-immigration-bill-despite/story%3fid=106969976
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I’m certainly not arguing that Carlin wasn’t left of center, especially back then.
But the entire political spectrum has shifted so much to the left since then that PAMan, a Democrat, is regularly called a Republican here for having moderate views.
My views have pretty much always aligned with Carlin’s, which is why I’ve always been such a fan. I voted for Obama in 08, Romney in 12, Johnson in 16 (specifically because I couldn’t bring myself to vote for Hillary or Trump) didn’t vote in 2020 because Covid (but would have voted third party).
No party exists that caters to my political leanings and feelings and moreover, like George, I’ve realized we only have the illusion of choice and I refuse to let myself be fooled or sucked in by it.
But I’m a right winger in the eyes of the progressive bent here because, like PAMan, I reject much of the far left progressive ideology and their hypocrisy.
I view PAMan as center-left. I'm a hardcore lefty. You won't find me trying to hide it, or pretend I'm something else.
You are firmly entrenched in the right-wing spectrum. It's pretty clear that Ron DeSanctimonious is your guy, but you also have a boner for Elon Musk.
That's fine. Whatever floats your boat.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/border-patrol-union-backs-senate-immigration-bill-despite/story%3fid=106969976
It’s because they want it to stop. The ones that voted “no” to it, do to, but they also don’t want all the additives Democrats put in it for aid to Ukraine and all kinds of other bullshit that doesn’t belong in it.
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It’s because they want it to stop. The ones that voted “no” to it, do to, but they also don’t want all the additives Democrats put in it for aid to Ukraine and all kinds of other bullshit that doesn’t belong in it.
Funny thing is the Ukraine funding bill passed when it was separated from the border security deal. And Mike Johnson and other House GOP members voted for it.
The border deal died because Trump didn't want any legislation to pass before the election.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/01/25/politics/gop-senators-angry-trump-immigration-deal
Trump
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I view PAMan as center-left. I'm a hardcore lefty. You won't find me trying to hide it, or pretend I'm something else.
You are firmly entrenched in the right-wing spectrum. It's pretty clear that Ron DeSanctimonious is your guy, but you also have a boner for Elon Musk.
That's fine. Whatever floats your boat.
I don’t really know much about DeSantis but I do appreciate he didn’t cave to the pressure of shutting down his state in 2020 to the degree others did.
I’m glad Musk bought Twitter because there needs to be some balance in big social media—they shouldn’t all be left-controlled. I tend to agree with Murph that he’s off the rails. But even Musk has been a lifelong left of center type person that’s become disenchanted with what’s become of modern left wing priorities.
I’ve always been the kind of person that could vote either way depending on what a candidate had to offer. To a hardcore lefty, that makes me entrenched in the right wing spectrum.
My biggest issues right now are common sense border security and the fact I’ve seen with my own two eyes what’s happened across the country in single party rule blue areas over the last 4-5 years, and it’s appalling. NYC, SF, Chicago, STL, LA, Portland, Seattle, etc are all noticeably worse places in many respects than they were 5-10 years ago. Places with more balanced governments are attracting people fleeing from those other areas and expanding as fast as they can build.
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I don’t really know much about DeSantis but I do appreciate he didn’t cave to the pressure of shutting down his state in 2020 to the degree others did.
I’m glad Musk bought Twitter because there needs to be some balance in big social media—they shouldn’t all be left-controlled. I tend to agree with Murph that he’s off the rails. But even Musk has been a lifelong left of center type person that’s become disenchanted with what’s become of modern left wing priorities.
I’ve always been the kind of person that could vote either way depending on what a candidate had to offer. To a hardcore lefty, that makes me entrenched in the right wing spectrum.
My biggest issues right now are common sense border security and the fact I’ve seen with my own two eyes what’s happened across the country in single party rule blue areas over the last 4-5 years, and it’s appalling. NYC, SF, Chicago, STL, LA, Portland, Seattle, etc are all noticeably worse places in many respects than they were 5-10 years ago. Places with more balanced governments are attracting people fleeing from those other areas and expanding as fast as they can build.
+1
I’d add, Trump will allow me to have more money in my pockets as well…
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Not if he wrecks the economy again. Trump has no clue how to run a business or a country. Most of the people he hired for his first administration now oppose him. The rest are weirdos.
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Not if he wrecks the economy again. Trump has no clue how to run a business or a country. Most of the people he hired for his first administration now oppose him. The rest are weirdos.
He didn’t wreck the economy. You’re a fucking moron. COVID and all the shut downs did. That was your liberal buddies who tanked the economy.
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I don’t really know much about DeSantis but I do appreciate he didn’t cave to the pressure of shutting down his state in 2020 to the degree others did.
I’m glad Musk bought Twitter because there needs to be some balance in big social media—they shouldn’t all be left-controlled. I tend to agree with Murph that he’s off the rails. But even Musk has been a lifelong left of center type person that’s become disenchanted with what’s become of modern left wing priorities.
I’ve always been the kind of person that could vote either way depending on what a candidate had to offer. To a hardcore lefty, that makes me entrenched in the right wing spectrum.
My biggest issues right now are common sense border security and the fact I’ve seen with my own two eyes what’s happened across the country in single party rule blue areas over the last 4-5 years, and it’s appalling. NYC, SF, Chicago, STL, LA, Portland, Seattle, etc are all noticeably worse places in many respects than they were 5-10 years ago. Places with more balanced governments are attracting people fleeing from those other areas and expanding as fast as they can build.
Psst! Single party rule is very much alive in red states like Tennessee. And people, particularly young families, are moving from the big cities primarily for housing-related reasons.
As to Florida and other climate vulnerable areas, I expect a growing number of people will be moving out-of-state over the next 50-75 years. Your guy DeSantis and future governors won't be able to do anything about it.
https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/americans-moving-climate-change/
Musk is center-left? Hahahahahah! Nice try.
https://newrepublic.com/post/186455/elon-musk-pac-millions-republicans-house-races
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Jesus. The economy was fine under Trump. The blind loyalty to the Biden administration is nuts.
A large chunk of voters won’t admit to any of this administration’s failures, blame them all on Trump, then try to gaslight the rest of us into submission if we point out anything concerning.
Brainwashing 101.
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Psst! Single party rule is very much alive in red states like Tennessee. And people, particularly young families, are moving from the big cities primarily for housing-related reasons.
As to Florida and other climate vulnerable areas, I expect a growing number of people will be moving out-of-state over the next 50-75 years. Your guy DeSantis and future governors won't be able to do anything about it.
https://www.forbes.com/home-improvement/features/americans-moving-climate-change/
Musk is center-left? Hahahahahah! Nice try.
https://newrepublic.com/post/186455/elon-musk-pac-millions-republicans-house-races
Housing issues are just one reason of many. Why are there housing issues? Why do Democrat run cities so consistently have this problem in which they just flat out refuse to address the problem and instead allow the wealthy to protect their own interests and pull the ladder up after them? Murph has even talked about how this happens in the Bay Area and how he is complicit in it. What we you saying about being honest earlier?
I thought you guys were going to fix climate change with electric vehicle mandates? No new technology will come along in the next 50-75 years to offset it? Man won’t adapt? Insanity.
Like everyone, Musk spends his money where it will help his businesses. He has described himself as being center left most of his life until recently. People change their minds, especially in the face of increasingly radical movements that threaten our way of life.
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Housing issues are just one reason of many. Why are there housing issues? Why do Democrat run cities so consistently have this problem in which they just flat out refuse to address the problem and instead allow the wealthy to protect their own interests and pull the ladder up after them? Murph has even talked about how this happens in the Bay Area and how he is complicit in it. What we you saying about being honest earlier?
I thought you guys were going to fix climate change with electric vehicle mandates? No new technology will come along in the next 50-75 years to offset it? Man won’t adapt? Insanity.
Like everyone, Musk spends his money where it will help his businesses. He has described himself as being center left most of his life until recently. People change their minds, especially in the face of increasingly radical movements that threaten our way of life.
Like I’ve said before, restrictive zoning and housing policies are one thing that liberals AND conservatives in the big cities can agree upon. If that’s what they want, so be it. I may not agree, but I have no skin in the game and neither do you.
(STRAWMAN ALERT) Who said climate change would be solved by EV mandates? Not me. I think hybrids and more fuel efficient vehicles will be part of the mix for reducing carbon emissions in the transportation sector. Maybe green hydrogen for heavy-duty trucks and other larger vehicles. And we will soon find out if smaller, modular nuclear systems are feasible for producing low-carbon electricity as we transition away from fossil fuels.
Yes, humans will adapt to climate change and that’s why people living in climate-affected areas will move to areas less susceptible to major weather events. It’s already happening. Future generations will have to deal with it.
https://realestate.usnews.com/real-estate/articles/what-are-climate-migrants-and-where-are-they-moving
Good to see that some of the Biden IRA money is going to states to harden aging infrastructure and strengthen electric grid resilience. We need more of that.
Your guy Musk can spend his money wherever he wants, including funding the ground game for Trump and other GOP candidates. But he’s not center-left by any stretch of imagination.
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He didn’t wreck the economy. You’re a fucking moron. COVID and all the shut downs did. That was your liberal buddies who tanked the economy.
What were P/E ratios before Covid?
What did Trump's tax cuts do to the deficit?
What was the effect of his trade policies?
Why do Trumpers always call people they disagree with morons and retarded?
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https://futurism.com/the-byte/twitter-suspending-more-people
The buried lede in the article is the claim that The Twotter user numbers are "dwindling"...
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What were P/E ratios before Covid?
What did Trump's tax cuts do to the deficit?
What was the effect of his trade policies?
Why do Trumpers always call people they disagree with morons and retarded?
P/E ratios?! That's a new one for something that is fairly far removed from what the Pres can do or control, or should, anyway. Trump is a potential disaster but the economy was generally fine under him until COVID, which was derailing the economy regardless notwithstanding that he had no idea what to do to speed up the recovery or stabilize it.
The real economic disaster of Trump is if he actually does anything with tariffs or immigration, either of which by themselves would put us in fairly bad shape. That Musk pushes the xenophobic crap that leads to the latter views being even remotely popular should be disqualifying for being the CEO of companies that require a fair amount of skilled labor.
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P/E ratios?! That's a new one for something that is fairly far removed from what the Pres can do or control, or should, anyway. Trump is a potential disaster but the economy was generally fine under him until COVID, which was derailing the economy regardless notwithstanding that he had no idea what to do to speed up the recovery or stabilize it.
The real economic disaster of Trump is if he actually does anything with tariffs or immigration, either of which by themselves would put us in fairly bad shape. That Musk pushes the xenophobic crap that leads to the latter views being even remotely popular should be disqualifying for being the CEO of companies that require a fair amount of skilled labor.
Yes. P/E ratios of the S&P iirc. When they are above a certain level. There is term for it that escapes me right now. Associated with Black Monday, etc.
Trump's role was corporations used cash from his tax holiday to buy back there own stock, inflating it's value.
Markets were possibly due for a correction at best when Covid happened. Maybe a recession. Going off memory..
I agree with the rest.
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Housing issues are just one reason of many. Why are there housing issues? Why do Democrat run cities so consistently have this problem in which they just flat out refuse to address the problem and instead allow the wealthy to protect their own interests and pull the ladder up after them? Murph has even talked about how this happens in the Bay Area and how he is complicit in it. What we you saying about being honest earlier?
I thought you guys were going to fix climate change with electric vehicle mandates? No new technology will come along in the next 50-75 years to offset it? Man won’t adapt? Insanity.
Like everyone, Musk spends his money where it will help his businesses. He has described himself as being center left most of his life until recently. People change their minds, especially in the face of increasingly radical movements that threaten our way of life.
Re: housing, the Bay Area is an example of how it has to be resolved at the state level; the "city" of SF is small - they can't really resolve their housing crisis without San Mateo and San Jose resolving their housing crisis. The San Francisco/Manhattan scenario is somewhat unique nationally, but the solution to having local government captured by vested interests is a regional/state one. This is one of the frustrations about Kathy Hochul recently getting in the way of congestion pricing - it's a small but promising tool to properly price road use of dense urban areas and return the funds to public transportation, and it got vetoed, largely by commuters who like the status quo. Even if New York had a functional mayor right now, they're limited what they can actually do themselves. This goes double for a place like Oakland, which needs major redevelopment with infrastructure investment, and has no bargaining power absent regional/state subsidizing.
But Manhattan and SF are fairly unique. When you say "Democrat-run cities," my primary personal example is of course Chicago, a city where the predominantly conservative regional population that benefits mightily from having a world-class economic center and tourist destination within a short drive throws an absolute fit when it's asked to pay its fair share of the liabilities incurred in supporting a world-class economic center and tourist destination and in same cases moves across the state line to avoid doing so, which is a problem that would require, again, a state or federal level solution.
I'd also note that major housing crises only show up in areas where people really want to live. It's not an accident that the list is predominantly places like Seattle, SF, LA, Boston, NYC, DC, etc. The red state exceptions would be places like Austin, Nashville, or the research triangle, which all currently have Democrat mayors and have invested heavily in cultural or business environments appealing to young people. To some extent scolding "Democrat-run cities" for having housing shortages is castigating them for being interesting, desirable places to live with thriving economies, which should raise the question as to what's stopping "Republican-run cities" from being big deals.
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Too many people confuse the stock market for “the economy.” Thanks, stock buybacks (which used to be and should be illegal).
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No hyperbole here…
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Yes. P/E ratios of the S&P iirc. When they are above a certain level. There is term for it that escapes me right now. Associated with Black Monday, etc.
Trump's role was corporations used cash from his tax holiday to buy back there own stock, inflating it's value.
Markets were possibly due for a correction at best when Covid happened. Maybe a recession. Going off memory..
I agree with the rest.
High PE ratios are usually associated with high expectations for growth in a particular stock and are generally fueled by extremely low interest rates, as well as stock buybacks
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I feel sad at how things are today in our country.
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No party exists that caters to my political leanings and feelings and moreover, like George, I’ve realized we only have the illusion of choice and I refuse to let myself be fooled or sucked in by it.
Not shocking, because there is no "Idiot Party"
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He didn’t wreck the economy. You’re a fucking moron. COVID and all the shut downs did. That was your liberal buddies who tanked the economy.
So all those farmers who couldn't sell their soybeans due to the tariff war, that was just imaginary?
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Housing issues are just one reason of many. Why are there housing issues? Why do Democrat run cities so consistently have this problem in which they just flat out refuse to address the problem and instead allow the wealthy to protect their own interests and pull the ladder up after them? Murph has even talked about how this happens in the Bay Area and how he is complicit in it. What we you saying about being honest earlier?
The problem in Northern California is restrictive zoning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qybqoewl1nA
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Yeah, I guess you can’t believe him OR the border patrol on the subject, huh ray?! Weird…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1839907391799722381?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I generally take things late enforcement says with a an extra grain of salt.
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Re: housing, the Bay Area is an example of how it has to be resolved at the state level; the "city" of SF is small - they can't really resolve their housing crisis without San Mateo and San Jose resolving their housing crisis. The San Francisco/Manhattan scenario is somewhat unique nationally, but the solution to having local government captured by vested interests is a regional/state one. This is one of the frustrations about Kathy Hochul recently getting in the way of congestion pricing - it's a small but promising tool to properly price road use of dense urban areas and return the funds to public transportation, and it got vetoed, largely by commuters who like the status quo. Even if New York had a functional mayor right now, they're limited what they can actually do themselves. This goes double for a place like Oakland, which needs major redevelopment with infrastructure investment, and has no bargaining power absent regional/state subsidizing.
But Manhattan and SF are fairly unique. When you say "Democrat-run cities," my primary personal example is of course Chicago, a city where the predominantly conservative regional population that benefits mightily from having a world-class economic center and tourist destination within a short drive throws an absolute fit when it's asked to pay its fair share of the liabilities incurred in supporting a world-class economic center and tourist destination and in same cases moves across the state line to avoid doing so, which is a problem that would require, again, a state or federal level solution.
I'd also note that major housing crises only show up in areas where people really want to live. It's not an accident that the list is predominantly places like Seattle, SF, LA, Boston, NYC, DC, etc. The red state exceptions would be places like Austin, Nashville, or the research triangle, which all currently have Democrat mayors and have invested heavily in cultural or business environments appealing to young people. To some extent scolding "Democrat-run cities" for having housing shortages is castigating them for being interesting, desirable places to live with thriving economies, which should raise the question as to what's stopping "Republican-run cities" from being big deals.
In many cases those cities have housing shortages because they’ve traditionally been amazing economic and tourism centers that are great places to live and have a lot of jobs. They’re also geographically or topographically constrained which puts more pressure on housing. But there’s also a large element of a liberal base clearly voting against their supposed principles in order to protect their own interests at the expense of others lower on the economic ladder. What was it Ray said the other day about democrats caring about people and republicans caring about property?
In some cases those cities are experiencing exodus from the relative few who can afford to leave and still have astronomical pricing in spite of the fact that the cities are struggling with tent cities, massive influx of illegal immigrants, crime, abandonment of city centers, ever increasing prices of goods and services stacked with the highest taxes in the country, etc.
It’s a house of cards right now and it’s no accident most people leaving are fleeing to red areas. It’s not just because of cost of living, it’s a rejection of the policies that made them want to leave their homes in the first place.
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I generally take things late enforcement says with a an extra grain of salt.
It’s straight from their mouth. The Border Patrol is the boots on the ground. So you don’t trust them, but will all kinds of money grubbing scientists about COVID. Shake my head.
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I think ray is usually pretty level headed on most topics, even ones I don’t agree with him on. However when it comes to anything that is said or published that doesn’t fit his mindset, he immediately discards it as right wing news or mis/disinformation. Makes it really easy to avoid pesky cognitive dissonance but not so great for being open minded.
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Apparently is having people dress up as robots....
https://www.theverge.com/2024/10/13/24269131/tesla-optimus-robots-human-controlled-cybercab-we-robot-event
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Musk paid a visit to Space X today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV30irsal-w
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Shocking that the Trumpers are Soviet stooges....
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/musk-putin-secret-conversations-37e1c187
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Shocking that the Trumpers are Soviet stooges....
https://www.wsj.com/world/russia/musk-putin-secret-conversations-37e1c187
Not exactly un-Xpected. This explains why Elon always declines the window seat.
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Not exactly un-Xpected. This explains why Elon always declines the window seat.
all these years being afraid of "Red Dawn" and we will just let them in the front door
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Always going back to the Russian well lol
These guys can’t even beat Ukraine in a multi year effort and you’re actually worried about them conquering Western Europe, or better yet, us?
Obviously Putin respects Trump a lot more than Biden or Harris, which is why he waited until they were in office to strike. When Democrats interact with foreign adversaries they call that diplomacy. If Trump or Elon does it, it’s Russian collusion.
Regardless of what you think they might be up to, the actual evidence supports that what Trump was doing was vastly superior to what Biden/Harris have done.
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Always going back to the Russian well lol
These guys can’t even beat Ukraine in a multi year effort and you’re actually worried about them conquering Western Europe, or better yet, us?
Obviously Putin respects Trump a lot more than Biden or Harris, which is why he waited until they were in office to strike. When Democrats interact with foreign adversaries they call that diplomacy. If Trump or Elon does it, it’s Russian collusion.
Regardless of what you think they might be up to, the actual evidence supports that what Trump was doing was vastly superior to what Biden/Harris have done.
https://www.politico.com/news/2022/02/23/trump-putin-ukraine-invasion-00010923
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Always going back to the Russian well lol
These guys can’t even beat Ukraine in a multi year effort and you’re actually worried about them conquering Western Europe, or better yet, us?
Obviously Putin respects Trump a lot more than Biden or Harris, which is why he waited until they were in office to strike. When Democrats interact with foreign adversaries they call that diplomacy. If Trump or Elon does it, it’s Russian collusion.
Regardless of what you think they might be up to, the actual evidence supports that what Trump was doing was vastly superior to what Biden/Harris have done.
Yes, Putin is rooting for Trump. Why? Because Trump fucked with NATO for 4 years and Putin gambled that NATO was weak/disorganized enough it was time to make his move. He thought Ukraine and NATO would just roll over. They didn't. Plan B is to hold on long enough to get Trump back in who will try and force Ukraine to cut a favorable deal. Putin doesn't respect Trump. Putin knows Trump is a good little lackey (for whatever reason).
But you are right. The Soviets are weak. I do not get why people freak out over WW III or when they fly planes over Alaska, etc. They cannot beat the Ukraine and and are now bringing in North Korean troops for help? Let them start a war with NATO. We would fuck them up, but for the Soviet Sympathizer Trumpers who are going to be running the country soon who will be supporting Putin.
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Always going back to the Russian well lol
These guys can’t even beat Ukraine in a multi year effort and you’re actually worried about them conquering Western Europe, or better yet, us?
Obviously Putin respects Trump a lot more than Biden or Harris, which is why he waited until they were in office to strike. When Democrats interact with foreign adversaries they call that diplomacy. If Trump or Elon does it, it’s Russian collusion.
Regardless of what you think they might be up to, the actual evidence supports that what Trump was doing was vastly superior to what Biden/Harris have done.
Elon Musk is in control of billions of dollars of highly classified government defense contracts. He should not be speaking to Vladimir Putin directly.
Period.
Among other things, he controls starlink connections to Ukraine.
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But you are right. The Soviets are weak. I do not get why people freak out over WW III or when they fly planes over Alaska, etc. They cannot beat the Ukraine and and are now bringing in North Korean troops for help? Let them start a war with NATO. We would fuck them up, but for the Soviet Sympathizer Trumpers who are going to be running the country soon who will be supporting Putin.
Now put on an overlay that Putin has a hot line to the guy who controls Starlink and the majority of US rocket launches for defense satellites....
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Now put on an overlay that Putin has a hot line to the guy who controls Starlink and the majority of US rocket launches for defense satellites....
Musk cares about the Benjamins. Between the US and the Soviets, he will choose the US. If it is between Trump and the Soviets, he does not have to choose as they are one and the same.
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The Soviets still have nukes. Unlikely they’d use them but you never know for sure.
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Elon Musk is in control of billions of dollars of highly classified government defense contracts. He should not be speaking to Vladimir Putin directly.
Period.
Among other things, he controls starlink connections to Ukraine.
Agreed.
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Musk paid a visit to Space X today
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vV30irsal-w
I saw an interview with elon where he quoted that movie directly, something about "make it pointy!"
pretty funny
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The Soviets still have nukes. Unlikely they’d use them but you never know for sure.
That's not going to work out well for them either.
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That's not going to work out well for them either.
No, but I’m not convinced Putin is stable. Don’t think they’d employ them, but just enough crazy there to leave a tiny bit of doubt.
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I saw an interview with elon where he quoted that movie directly, something about "make it pointy!"
pretty funny
The dude who played Rafi in The League is awesome.
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😂😂😂😂😂
hooo boy
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He's going to be far more influential the next 4 years than Soros could ever dream of.
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He's going to be far more influential the next 4 years than Soros could ever dream of.
Hopefully. Musk has a lot to offer humanity.
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It’s probably beyond the comprehension of a lot of people on the left, especially bureaucrats, but this DOGE thing playing out over the last four years is fucking hilarious and the kind of thing that appeals to voters. This is actual governing for the people, by the people.
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"Media reports show Elon Musk worked illegally in America early in his career"
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2024/10/27/what-elon-musk-working-illegally-says-about-the-immigration-system/
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That’s just quoting the WaPo article.
I think it’s likely he worked here illegally for a short time. I don’t think it’s comparable to millions of randoms pouring across the southern border on an annual basis.
I think there’s this whole thing that Trump and Musk and the rest hate immigrants. It’s patently false. They’re against what was essentially an open border for most of Biden’s administration. Enough people agreed that it helped them win an election, despite Murph saying it’s the price of eggs.
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I don't agree with zero tolerance. There should be exceptions for people in Musk's situation. Or fathers who violated some minor rule that hasn't been enforced for 50 years. And for those who cross the border to work. Also for those who were brought here as children and were raised here and are cultural Americans.
It isn't helpful to claim there have been open borders when Biden deported or denied entry to 4 times as many as Trump. Or talk about zero tolerance when the President's family members and close advisor got exceptions.
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I honestly don’t think Trump gives a shit about illegals. But he knows his base eats that shit for breakfast, so he’s happy to give them what they want.
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That’s just quoting the WaPo article.
I think it’s likely he worked here illegally for a short time. I don’t think it’s comparable to millions of randoms pouring across the southern border on an annual basis.
I think there’s this whole thing that Trump and Musk and the rest hate immigrants. It’s patently false. They’re against what was essentially an open border for most of Biden’s administration. Enough people agreed that it helped them win an election, despite Murph saying it’s the price of eggs.
How is Musk not comparable to any single immigrant coming across the border? You are making a strawman argument.
Either it's illegal, or it's not. He snuck in and worked illegally. Either that's problematic to do so, or not. Well, unless your custard in which case you can sneak in from Apartheid South Africa but not from Mexico.
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If you’re brown and sneak in to work that’s a problem.
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Here you go, Tempo
https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/x-sees-largest-user-exodus-musk-takeover-rcna179793
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I’m sure Musk is horrified that The Guardian and Don Lemon took their balls (heheh) and went home.
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I’m sure Musk is horrified that The Guardian and Don Lemon took their balls (heheh) and went home.
What about the whole 6 people who left the Twotter that NBC News spoke with for the article?
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WGAF
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WGAF
The same people who get worked up over ambassador appointments?
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The left got caught completely off guard by this and it’s going to be a shit show once they regroup. Great, another 4 year news cycle of Trump hysteria. Just what the people needed.
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Pretty sure a trillion dollar company like amazon doesnt need a pitiful 300 million dollar contract, but ok
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Pretty sure a trillion dollar company like amazon doesnt need a pitiful 300 million dollar contract, but ok
True, that’s not even enough money to get Murph’s attention.
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I’m sure Musk is horrified that The Guardian and Don Lemon took their balls (heheh) and went home.
X can go to zero and it was a masterful business move. He bought a President. Tesla stock up far more than X cost.
I don't quite understand how that scales, when Trump's base thinks EV's are the devil and the EV base thinks Musk is evil.
Maybe it's a gambit to support his solar business by kneecapping the windmill industry.
or... Musk is just nuts.
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https://www.chicagobusiness.com/manufacturing-logistics/rivian-tesla-stock-slide-trump-ev-plans-report
Rivian, Tesla slide on report Trump plans to nix EV tax credit
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Does Donald Musk or Elon Trump sound better?!
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Apparently Elon is the Secretary of State now, and negotiating with Iran.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/world/middleeast/elon-musk-iran-trump.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/14/world/middleeast/elon-musk-iran-trump.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
it's really gonna be awesome when all of a sudden these geniuses run into foreign leaders who tell them to fuck off.
I really hope that starts with Zelensky
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it's really gonna be awesome when all of a sudden these geniuses run into foreign leaders who tell them to fuck off.
I really hope that starts with Zelensky
And here we go, the oh-so-predictable rooting against America. The last thing puppet Zelensky is going to do is tell his cash cow to fuck off.
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And here we go, the oh-so-predictable rooting against America. The last thing puppet Zelensky is going to do is tell his cash cow to fuck off.
What happens when his new puppet master is Putin's garçon?
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What happens when his new puppet master is Putin's garçon?
You still believe that fairy tale?
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You still believe that fairy tale?
Russian worked hard to get him elected.
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Russian worked hard to get him elected.
What did they do?
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Phone banked.
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What did they do?
https://apnews.com/article/russia-disinformation-foreign-influence-election-microsoft-7f802f9f4a0efe206fdaad29516b1f7f
https://www.cnn.com/2024/10/30/europe/russian-disinformation-harris-walz-us-election-intl/index.html
How Russia Openly Escalated Its Election Interference Efforts
How Russia Openly Escalated Its Election Interference Efforts https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/07/technology/russia-us-election-interference.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
https://www.npr.org/2024/09/04/nx-s1-5100329/us-russia-election-interference-bots-2024
https://youtu.be/xYH2PBT01Vg
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And here we go, the oh-so-predictable rooting against America. The last thing puppet Zelensky is going to do is tell his cash cow to fuck off.
If Trump and Putin "negotiate" a deal where Russia stops the war and gets 1/4 of Ukraine, what good is a cash cow? The whole point of the cash was to prevent Russia from annexing territory. If the cash isn't going to accomplish that, who needs it?
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What did they do?
Invaded Ukraine.
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https://youtu.be/4y40RU5Nx6U
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Musk's primary fortune comes from EVs, which are against the MAGA base, Trump already threatening to kill any EV credits
RFK will be an interesting case (OK, he probably won't be confirmed, only need 4 max Republican Senators who aren't crazy anti-vaxxers) - but while MAGA might love the anti-vax rhetoric, he's also discussing things like banning soda, and restricting additives in foods that would just crush big food. "Here is my HHS Secretary RFK Jr - he's gonna ban Coca Cola and Hot Dogs!"
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Trump is also demanding recess appointments
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Musk's primary fortune comes from EVs, which are against the MAGA base, Trump already threatening to kill any EV credits
RFK will be an interesting case (OK, he probably won't be confirmed, only need 4 max Republican Senators who aren't crazy anti-vaxxers) - but while MAGA might love the anti-vax rhetoric, he's also discussing things like banning soda, and restricting additives in foods that would just crush big food. "Here is my HHS Secretary RFK Jr - he's gonna ban Coca Cola and Hot Dogs!"
One would think Musk is hoping to sway Trump to be pro-EVs. Remember when Trump was against The Tok-Tik before he was for it?
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https://youtu.be/4y40RU5Nx6U
And so it begins, Musk Derangement Syndrome.
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right on time, lol
but to be fair people have had that for a while now
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Musk's primary fortune comes from EVs, which are against the MAGA base, Trump already threatening to kill any EV credits
RFK will be an interesting case (OK, he probably won't be confirmed, only need 4 max Republican Senators who aren't crazy anti-vaxxers) - but while MAGA might love the anti-vax rhetoric, he's also discussing things like banning soda, and restricting additives in foods that would just crush big food. "Here is my HHS Secretary RFK Jr - he's gonna ban Coca Cola and Hot Dogs!"
You don’t think a lot of MAGA will drive a Tesla now that Musk himself is MAGA? My brother is very conservative and has had a Tesla for years. Also has a bunch of solar panels on his roof that nearly offset all their electricity usage.
I don’t think anyone is really anti-EV except people or companies who have a vested interest in internal combustion engine vehicles. EVs certainly have their place.
The regular people who have questioned the potential mandates and the tax credits are often people who live in rural areas where EVs don’t make as much sense. Rural people also overwhelmingly vote Trump. What was it you were saying about causation and correlation again?
RFK isn’t going to ban soda, but I would have to think you’d agree that our food system needs an overhaul.
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right on time, lol
but to be fair people have had that for a while now
The left’s breakup with Elon was bitter. Now he’s dating their arch enemy and they can’t handle it.
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. "Here is my HHS Secretary RFK Jr - he's gonna ban Coca Cola and Hot Dogs!"
That might be the best thing he could do, actually…
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The left’s breakup with Elon was bitter. Now he’s dating their arch enemy and they can’t handle it.
Someone sounds wet.
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You don’t think a lot of MAGA will drive a Tesla now that Musk himself is MAGA? My brother is very conservative and has had a Tesla for years. Also has a bunch of solar panels on his roof that nearly offset all their electricity usage.
I don’t think anyone is really anti-EV except people or companies who have a vested interest in internal combustion engine vehicles. EVs certainly have their place.
The regular people who have questioned the potential mandates and the tax credits are often people who live in rural areas where EVs don’t make as much sense. Rural people also overwhelmingly vote Trump. What was it you were saying about causation and correlation again?
RFK isn’t going to ban soda, but I would have to think you’d agree that our food system needs an overhaul.
Your brother is very conservative? That’s shocking.
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One would think Musk is hoping to sway Trump to be pro-EVs. Remember when Trump was against The Tok-Tik before he was for it?
Chris Christie endorsed Donald Trump in 2016 "because I thought I could change him"
Good luck, Elon.
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You don’t think a lot of MAGA will drive a Tesla now that Musk himself is MAGA? My brother is very conservative and has had a Tesla for years. Also has a bunch of solar panels on his roof that nearly offset all their electricity usage.
I don’t think anyone is really anti-EV except people or companies who have a vested interest in internal combustion engine vehicles. EVs certainly have their place.
I really start to think you've been asleep the past 8 years.
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The left’s breakup with Elon was bitter. Now he’s dating their arch enemy and they can’t handle it.
This whole thing is a blessing in that sense, Musk is a fucking moron. I used to have a bunch of Tesla stock, and sold it when he cooked up two idiotic proposals - Hyperloop and Boring Company. It's only our bad luck that he happened to be interested in Space at a time when the Government was defunding NASA, and that he thought the Tesla Roadster was really cool and he should be a founder in the company. Those successes are just coincidences, had he decided to go all in on Hyperloop instead of SpaceX, he'd be in the dustbin of history.
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The left’s breakup with Elon was bitter. Now he’s dating their arch enemy and they can’t handle it.
Wrong. Folks on the left figured out early on that he was a dipshit. Most are amused, not bitter, that he's found a cozy home with right wingers like you.
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Bernstein! And he’s right. You know this is gonna blow up, virtually every relationship Trump has sours.
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Two massive egos in the room rarely works out well. I wonder, is Elon familiar with the principle "ETTD"?
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Two massive egos in the room rarely works out well. I wonder, is Elon familiar with the principle "ETTD"?
Lol true
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Wrong. Folks on the left figured out early on that he was a dipshit. Most are amused, not bitter, that he's found a cozy home with right wingers like you.
Most people on the left were enamored with him until he started sharing political views that weren’t left leaning enough. Then it just evolved into X and into full blown MAGA.
Interesting that the dipshit has done so much, with so much potential for humanity. I mean he’s no government worker, but still.
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had he decided to go all in on Hyperloop instead of SpaceX, he'd be in the dustbin of history.
And if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.
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What evidence do we have that Musk has a huge ego? He’s rich? Comes across as very approachable and down to earth in all the stuff I’ve seen.
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What evidence do we have that Musk has a huge ego? He’s rich? Comes across as very approachable and down to earth in all the stuff I’ve seen.
FFS, we get it. You have a boner for Elon.
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What evidence do we have that Musk has a huge ego? He’s rich? Comes across as very approachable and down to earth in all the stuff I’ve seen.
I don't know much about him. I thought he was the founder of Paypal and Tesla. Recently found out he isn't.
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You have a boner for Elon.
I call it my Musket
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And if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.
I find it disturbing you know she doesn't
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Musk must have been involved in that Paul/Tyson fight because it was clearly a product of the Boring Company
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Wrong. Folks on the left figured out early on that he was a dipshit. Most are amused, not bitter, that he's found a cozy home with right wingers like you.
😂 do you ever tire of lying
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FFS, we get it. You have a boner for Elon.
He’s the only one who doesn’t realize how obvious it is.
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Just read an interesting article. Too long and too reason based for cesspool attention spans.
It looks like Bluesky might be the new old Twitter for academics, community organizers, social activists.
https://www.science.org/content/article/old-twitter-scientific-community-finds-new-home-bluesky
"Among other things, Musk scaled back moderation and fired people charged with making the platform safer, abolished the old system of verification, shuttered researchers’ access to data, and tweaked the algorithm to amplify his own often false and conspiracy-filled tweets. Lies and misinformation about the U.S. elections and major scientific topics including climate change, misinformation research, and infectious diseases flourished on the platform."
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Enjoy your liberal safe circle jerk space you stupid fags
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“We are bitter that Twitter is no longer a left wing propaganda platform, so we are taking our ball and going home”
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It’s interesting how you and other liberals mocked Trump for creating another platform when Twitter and other MSM was extremely liberal and censoring people. Your like is insufferable…
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Enjoy your liberal safe circle jerk space you stupid fags
+1
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“We are bitter that Twitter is no longer a left wing propaganda platform, so we are taking our ball and going home”
+1
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ThePAThey AOTC yet again. Loving The BlueSkyy.
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“We are bitter that Twitter is no longer a left wing propaganda platform, so we are taking our ball and going home”
If it doesn't meet the needs of scientists, academics, community organizers, etc. why would they stay out?
At this point, most still stay out of habit and moving is a hassle. But it looks like a tipping point is close.
I wonder if sports related stuff will start leaving X?
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It’s interesting how you and other liberals mocked Trump for creating another platform when Twitter and other MSM was extremely liberal and censoring people. Your like is insufferable…
I didn't care less if Donnie wanted to start his own vanity platform that nobody uses.
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ThePAThey AOTC yet again. Loving The BlueSkyy.
Do you keep misspelling it on purpose?
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21m users! None of the Chinese and Soviet bots!
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21m users! None of the Chinese and Soviet bots!
All of them snowflakes!
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The new twitter is "delete the app and take your dog for a walk to the coffee shop and talk to people"
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The new twitter is "delete the app and take your dog for a walk to the coffee shop and talk to people"
I like the sound of this!
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Does the coffee shop have girls in there getting blasted by fuck machines?
I don't think so.
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Does the coffee shop have girls in there getting blasted by fuck machines?
I don't think so.
No, the coffee shop is not in Matt Gaetz' basement
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No, the coffee shop is not in Matt Gaetz' basement
That's a thought. Elon should change the name again, from X to Matt Gaetz's basement.
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Looks like he’s onto something here…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859996036602933388?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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🤣
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And here…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859596285549920658?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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The reckoning is upon us, and I’m here for it.
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Looks like he’s onto something here…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859996036602933388?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
There is no significant voter fraud in the U.S.
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Looks like he’s onto something here…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1859996036602933388?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Correlation does not equal causation.
There are much higher rates of bigotry among Republicans. Does being a Republican cause bigotry? Or are bigots attracted to the Republican Party?
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Correlation does not equal causation.
There are much higher rates of bigotry among Republicans. Does being a Republican cause bigotry? Or are bigots attracted to the Republican Party?
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Correlation does not equal causation.
There are much higher rates of bigotry among Republicans. Does being a Republican cause bigotry? Or are bigots attracted to the Republican Party?
Uh huh sure bud
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Uh huh sure bud
Except for things he wants it to…
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Would…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1860591666941558854?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Lesbian Rachel Maddow having a meltdown 😂
https://x.com/clownworld_/status/1860705090975437255?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://x.com/saltygoat17/status/1859980017595498527?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://x.com/saltygoat17/status/1859980017595498527?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Put down the twitter and walk your damn dog
Though you probably think that being "forced" to pick up the dog's shit is repression
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I will say that I watched that right before going through the automatic car wash and the car in front of me was a Tesla. And saw another Tesla as I was emerging. Ironic.
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Put down the twitter and walk your damn dog
Though you probably think that being "forced" to pick up the dog's shit is repression
All while you and your liberal friends think having to use the correct restroom/locker room of your biological sex is apparently repression. Oh, the outrage! I wanna use the other one!!! 😂🤣
This is gold, Jerry! Pure gold!
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Who are you to tell a transgender person what oppression feels like?
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Who are you to tell a transgender person what oppression feels like?
Tell that to Murph regarding the dog shit then…
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Who are you to tell a transgender person what oppression feels like?
So I can go hangout in a girls locker room at a gym?!
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Well, picking up dogshit is something that sounds like a commie/lib activity.
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So I can go hangout in a girls locker room at a gym?!
Tempo?!
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Elon makin too much sense here. Appears some states are broken…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1860490221302718793?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Well, picking up dogshit is something that sounds like a commie/lib activity.
Why pick it up?! Feces are good for the planet. Makes great natural fertilizer. Isn’t that what your ilk wants?! 🤔…
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Elon makin too much sense here. Appears some states are broken…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1860490221302718793?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Right. Let's be more like India.
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Except for things he wants it to…
Wrong. I can speak for myself. Only if a cause and effect relationship can be established.
Correlation can be meaningful but not causal. Increase in vaccines, increase in diagnosed cases of autism are related.
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Bingo!
https://x.com/iluminatibot/status/1861047259921596852?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Why pick it up?! Fences is good for the planet. Makes great natural fertilizer. Isn’t that what your ilk wants?! 🤔…
cool. give me your address, my dog has some presents for you
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Why pick it up?! Fences is good for the planet. Makes great natural fertilizer. Isn’t that what your ilk wants?! 🤔…
I think we found our mole. Even Kelly Loeffler (UIUC 1992, nominee to be Secretary of Agriculture) knows that you can't use dog shit as fertilizer. Dog feces are a huge e coli vector.
So you don't know shit about shit, and you spell shit "Fences". I suspect we have a EIU Panther in our midst boys.
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I think we found our mole. Even Kelly Loeffler (UIUC 1992, nominee to be Secretary of Agriculture) knows that you can't use dog shit as fertilizer. Dog feces are a huge e coli vector.
So you don't know shit about shit, and you spell shit "Fences". I suspect we have a EIU Panther in our midst boys.
Autocorrect is a bitch 😂 got me
And nobody said to grow stuff to eat in the shit. Just let it stay where it’s at and fertilize the yard…
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Autocorrect is a bitch 😂 got me
And nobody said to grow stuff to eat in the shit. Just let it stay where it’s at and fertilize the yard…
Unless you compost it first, dog poo is not a good fertilizer for your yard.
https://www.angi.com/articles/dog-poop-good-grass.htm
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Unless you compost it first, dog poo is not a good fertilizer for your yard.
https://www.angi.com/articles/dog-poop-good-grass.htm
Oh darn, man, you got me 🙄😂
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So I can go hangout in a girls locker room at a gym?!
Hang out? Why would you?
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Hang out? Why would you?
Just act like a woman to go see naked girls in there. That’s what you’re advocating for…
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Just act like a woman to go see naked girls in there. That’s what you’re advocating for…
Hell you don’t even have to act like one. I can just go sit in there and claim to identify as a woman… who is to say I’m not and challenge me?!
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Just act like a woman to go see naked girls in there. That’s what you’re advocating for…
Strip bars are a lot cheaper than having your nuts chopped off. Leave it to MAGA to use a blowtorch to light a birthday candle
Very glad to hear you're in the Army that is trying to ban the movie Porky's though
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https://www.semafor.com/article/11/25/2024/bluesky-boom-worries-chinese-media
Chinese state media is reportedly troubled by the latest exodus of X users flocking to Bluesky. State outlets, which put considerable resources into amassing millions of followers on Elon Musk’s social media platform — including by buying ads, deploying bots, and hiring influencers — have recently seen their growth plateau.
The growing popularity of Bluesky, which has a largely liberal base and harder-to-manipulate algorithm, has sparked “worried chatter within Chinese state media circles,” a former Xinhua and China Daily employee wrote in his newsletter.
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Way to stay one step ahead of the commies!!!
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Way to stay one step ahead of the commies!!!
At least they pick up their dog’s shit!
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Hell you don’t even have to act like one. I can just go sit in there and claim to identify as a woman… who is to say I’m not and challenge me?!
I am no expert, but I doubt that is what trans people actually say. That is more what your ilk says about them.
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I am no expert, but I doubt that is what trans people actually say. That is more what your ilk says about them.
But a guy could, right?! And nothing could be done about it…
If they kick him out, he could sue them for discrimination…
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Don’t have any problems with either/or single occupancy bathrooms with locks, which is what a lot of restaurants have around here. Makes sense.
Having free-for-all multi stall bathrooms isn’t forward thinking at all—it’s actually regressive.
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Don’t have any problems with either/or single occupancy bathrooms with locks, which is what a lot of restaurants have around here. Makes sense.
Having free-for-all multi stall bathrooms isn’t forward thinking at all—it’s actually regressive.
this makes me think that your base instinct is - "if there is a chick taking a dump in the stall next to me, I'm peeping!"
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You ever use an outhouse? They were sort of like a permanent porta potty. Except there were one holers and 2 holers
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this makes me think that your base instinct is - "if there is a chick taking a dump in the stall next to me, I'm peeping!"
Yeah no
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You ever use an outhouse? They were sort of like a permanent porta potty. Except there were one holers and 2 holers
Well no. I’m aware they once existed but it was well before my time. See my previous post about being regressive?
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Just act like a woman to go see naked girls in there. That’s what you’re advocating for…
Literally no one does that.
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More US Senators get arrested in bathrooms than transpeople, or people pretending to be trans. This is even less of an issue than voter fraud, which is insignificant in America. This is conservatives having knee jerk reactions to people they don’t approve of.
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Yeah no
so somehow you think that all these transgender people - that's their plan.
Since I worked my way up to where I am, back in the day I was a janitor at a movie theatre. So I actually had to go clean women's restrooms. Hint: there are no urinals. Anyone doing their business has their own stall.
Or are you thinking what the transgender perverts want is to listen to "biological women" peeing and pooping through a metal stall wall?
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Literally no one does that.
Somehow FOX has got the MAGA base convinced that everyone is a pervert. Probably because they can take a step back and think - "yeah, if I could get away with being a pervert, I would!"
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Tempo should be delighted and fall in line appropriately…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1863383648831172905?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Tempo should be delighted and fall in line appropriately…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1863383648831172905?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Will Republicans be delighted when they find out the problem is defense contractors?
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Tempo should be delighted and fall in line appropriately…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1863383648831172905?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Yeah, I’ve never been against making The Pentagon accountable for its budget.
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Solidiers are sometimes literally told to leave humvees behind because they had a flat tire.
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Elon and Ron Paul get it…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1865310578140487790?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Surrender to China?
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https://www.investopedia.com/elon-musks-multi-billion-dollar-pay-package-8757243#:~:text=Excessiveness%3A%20The%20package%2C%20valued%20at,compensation%20for%20meeting%20ambitious%20targets.
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Who is covering the legal fees ? Probably not the plaintiff with his 9 shares when this started.
It appears as tho the lawyers did ask for $7.3 billion in legal fees in a suit about Musk's "excessive" pay package.
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“Excessive,” he worked hard for that money and EARNED it!
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The court found that Musk had "engineered the landmark pay package in sham negotiations with directors who were not independent," leading to a deal that was unfair to shareholders, including those who were plaintiffs in the lawsuit.
"The board never asked the $55.8 billion question," the judge wrote. "Was the plan even necessary for Tesla to retain Musk and achieve its goals?" She called the deal "unfathomable," citing the following reasons:
Conflicts of interest: The court found that Musk improperly controlled the board process during the negotiation of the 2018 pay package, compromising the board’s independence.
Material misstatements: Tesla's proxy statement contained multiple material misstatements regarding the pay package vote, which the judge deemed misleading.
Excessiveness: The package, valued at $56 billion and now worth $101 billion, was deemed unreasonably excessive, even as compensation for meeting ambitious targets.
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And from the filing,
"The plaintiff thus forces
the question: Does Musk control Tesla?
Delaware courts have been presented with this question thrice before, when
more adroit judges found ways to avoid definitively resolving it.1 This decision dares to “boldly go where no man has gone before, 2 or at least where no Delaware court has tread."
Yes, but it's Musk who has boldly gone where no man has gone before.
The judge ? 🤷
Lol
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Imagine if Musk were a Democrat appointed by Biden to head an unaccountable outside agency called dept of government efficiency (doge)? My understanding is Musk markets a cryptocurrency called doge coin. Something like that.
Republicans like Jeffords, Hawley, MTG, et al would be ridiculing the weird personal family issues. Everybody would know about that. The tranny daughter, kids with strange names. The estranged father fathering children with step granddaughters. Musk's bad
relationship with his dad.
This story about a conflict of interest would be yuge.
He currently has government contracts. Another conflict of interest?
Conservative influencers would be loudly raising questions about the companies he "founded."
Democrats would feebly try to defend him.
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Whatever you say.
Imagine if a judge criticized other judges for essentially being cowards and said she will "boldly go where no man has gone before... "
Sounds a little progressivey.
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From the filing ..
"Defendants argue that rescission is a harsh consequence that would leave
Musk uncompensated. But Musk’s preexisting equity stake provided him tens of
billions of dollars for his efforts. And Defendants have not offered a viable alternative
short of leaving the Grant intact.
On this point, Valeant is instructive.932 There, the plaintiff claimed that the
directors of Valeant Pharmaceuticals International breached their fiduciary duties
by awarding themselves and other executives and employees large cash bonuses in connection with a “later-aborted corporate restructuring."
The performance based equity compensation package is a stock options plan that "... offers Musk the opportunity to secure 12 total tranches of options,
each representing 1% of Tesla’s total outstanding shares as of January 21, 2018. For
a tranche to vest, Tesla’s market capitalization must increase by $50 billion and Tesla
must achieve either an adjusted EBITDA target or a revenue target in four
consecutive fiscal quarters."
Large cash bonuses in one case vs the Musk case with stock options that, it's possible, could have ended up as never seeing an increase in value.
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Imagine if Musk were a Democrat appointed by Biden to head an unaccountable outside agency called dept of government efficiency (doge)? My understanding is Musk markets a cryptocurrency called doge coin. Something like that.
Republicans like Jeffords, Hawley, MTG, et al would be ridiculing the weird personal family issues. Everybody would know about that. The tranny daughter, kids with strange names. The estranged father fathering children with step granddaughters. Musk's bad
relationship with his dad.
This story about a conflict of interest would be yuge.
He currently has government contracts. Another conflict of interest?
Conservative influencers would be loudly raising questions about the companies he "founded."
Democrats would feebly try to defend him.
True
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“Excessive,” he worked hard for that money and EARNED it!
Maybe you should DM him and ask him for $10,000.
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Who is covering the legal fees ? Probably not the plaintiff with his 9 shares when this started.
It appears as tho the lawyers did ask for $7.3 billion in legal fees in a suit about Musk's "excessive" pay package.
Jensen Huang compensation last year - 32 million.
He's done a slightly better job than Musk.
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From the filing ..
"Defendants argue that rescission is a harsh consequence that would leave
Musk uncompensated. But Musk’s preexisting equity stake provided him tens of
billions of dollars for his efforts. And Defendants have not offered a viable alternative
short of leaving the Grant intact.
On this point, Valeant is instructive.932 There, the plaintiff claimed that the
directors of Valeant Pharmaceuticals International breached their fiduciary duties
by awarding themselves and other executives and employees large cash bonuses in connection with a “later-aborted corporate restructuring."
The performance based equity compensation package is a stock options plan that "... offers Musk the opportunity to secure 12 total tranches of options,
each representing 1% of Tesla’s total outstanding shares as of January 21, 2018. For
a tranche to vest, Tesla’s market capitalization must increase by $50 billion and Tesla
must achieve either an adjusted EBITDA target or a revenue target in four
consecutive fiscal quarters."
Large cash bonuses in one case vs the Musk case with stock options that, it's possible, could have ended up as never seeing an increase in value.
When you get down to it, the Board has a fiduciary responsibility to their shareholders, not to the CEO. Their job is the hiring/firing and setting of compensation for the CEO, in the interests of the shareholders.
It's not a big leap to understand that they could have paid Musk substantially less, and he would not have left the company in protest. Tesla is his primary identity. He is also a big shareholder, and if he believes he is key to the company's growth, then it would be in his financial interest to stay at the company lest he put his current stake at risk.
It's also hard to argue that Musk would "work less hard" if he were given less future compensation.
The board is showing complete malfeasance with this pay package. The shareholders would rightly vote them all out. Thing is, you can add Musk's shares and institutional shares and get a majority to keep the board in place because they have internal conflicts of interest. Which is sad because the mutual funds are - by not voting against the board, not being good stewards of THEIR shareholders, since the pay package is to the detriment of Tesla shareholders and that includes the people holding shares in their funds. But they have *personal* incentives to keep things as is.
It's pathetic. While there is presumably some Tesla exposure in any SPY or QQQ I hold, I do not hold any direct shares in Tesla because Tesla is bullshit.
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The shareholders voted in favor of the Board's package for Musk.
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The shareholders voted in favor of the Board's package for Musk.
Your lack of reading comprehension is astounding.
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The board is showing complete malfeasance with this pay package. The shareholders would rightly vote them all out.
"So, apparently, did shareholders, who voted resoundingly in favor of reconfirming Musk’s 2018 pay package at Tesla’s annual meeting in June."
"Tesla subsequently pointed to the second vote in filings .... this time in a fully informed vote."
https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/column-tesla-bet-shareholder-ratification-save-musks-pay-package-it-lost-bet-2024-12-03/
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SpaceX gets all their money from the Government.
Tesla is a business in large part because of subsidies from the Government.
Musk is spending your money.
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"So, apparently, did shareholders, who voted resoundingly in favor of reconfirming Musk’s 2018 pay package at Tesla’s annual meeting in June."
"Tesla subsequently pointed to the second vote in filings .... this time in a fully informed vote."
https://www.reuters.com/legal/legalindustry/column-tesla-bet-shareholder-ratification-save-musks-pay-package-it-lost-bet-2024-12-03/
Did you vote in favor of the pay package?
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That's irrelevant but, after voting twice to approve the package, I doubt that shareholders are going to vote the Board out over the Musk compensation package.
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That's irrelevant but, after voting twice to approve the package, I doubt that shareholders are going to vote the Board out over the Musk compensation package.
I guess I'm being too subtle.
If you own shares in a mutual fund, then you own Tesla shares. The shares are yours. But the mutual fund votes them for you as a proxy. So the actual shareholders - the people whose money is at risk - aren't voting for the package, the people controlling the money are voting for the package. And they have a conflict of interest, because the firm has a vested interest in executives getting paid more, and they don't own the shares that will be penalized.
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Oh.
I thought you had said " The shareholders would rightly vote them all out. "
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Oh.
I thought you had said " The shareholders would rightly vote them all out. "
The board is showing complete malfeasance with this pay package. The shareholders would rightly vote them all out. Thing is, you can add Musk's shares and institutional shares and get a majority to keep the board in place because they have internal conflicts of interest. Which is sad because the mutual funds are - by not voting against the board, not being good stewards of THEIR shareholders
Can't tell if shitposter or just stupid
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They would "rightly vote them all out."
But "Thing is, you can .... get a majority to keep the board in."
So far you've missed on the first one.
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People don't always do what is right. That is even a basic Republican concept that rule of law trumps majority rule.
Iirc Murph suggested the proxy voters had a vested interest in over paying CEOs. That slid a bit over my head.
Do all shareholders get to vote? Does Musk get to vote? Does Musk's shares plus proxy make a majority?
Why would proxies vote with Musk?
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They would "rightly vote them all out."
But "Thing is, you can .... get a majority to keep the board in."
So far you've missed on the first one.
The *actual* shareholders - the people who own Tesla shares via the mutual funds, are not voting their shares. Non shareholders - the mutual funds - get to vote their shares. So you have non shareholders, voting against the interests of shareholders using the shares that belong to the shareholders. If the actual owners of the shares were voting their shares and had a clue, would vote the board out.
It's not THAT complicated to understand, I've only written it out four times.
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People don't always do what is right. That is even a basic Republican concept that rule of law trumps majority rule.
Iirc Murph suggested the proxy voters had a vested interest in over paying CEOs. That slid a bit over my head.
Do all shareholders get to vote? Does Musk get to vote? Does Musk's shares plus proxy make a majority?
Why would proxies vote with Musk?
I'm not going to disentangle the specific entanglements in the Tesla case, but the simplest toy example is this...
Person A is CEO of company X. He's on the board of Company Y
Person B is CEO of company Y. He's on the board of company X
So person B is responsible for setting the salary of Person A, and vice versa, via their membership on each other's board.
It's in their personal best interests to .. give each other a big fat raise. Getting a lot of additional stock options is worth more than their current stock going up by a buck by reducing dilution caused by the issuance of the shares.
The dirty pool can go all over the place, especially with the boards of large financial firms that get to vote a lot of shares. The CEO of some company that does business with SpaceX could be on the board of Goldman Sachs, tells Goldman Sachs to vote for the Musk pay package to keep Musk happy so they get the contract with SpaceX, etc...
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Do all shareholders get to vote? Does Musk get to vote? Does Musk's shares plus proxy make a majority?
Why would proxies vote with Musk?
Musk owns 20%. Vanguard owns 7.5% - er well, Vanguard's clients own 7.5% - mutual funds in total own 14%
18.4% is in ETFs - basically mutual funds also controlled by large fund companies including Vanguard
10% are institutional investors - basically large banks or hedge funds.
I think Tesla's governance is such that all shareholders get to vote, but the result is based on actual voters.
Musk plus mutual funds/ETFs add up to 63% - and remember most individual investors don't return their proxies for most votes, and you just need 50% + 1 of the actual returned proxies.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLs6CEsJp5s
The Musk package gets a good treatment, somwhere around 8 minutes
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1867361926793376138?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Conflating Confidential Informants with Undercover Agents with Agents Provocateur?
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Hey at least you’re up to admitting it wasn’t just MAGA people there. That’s a start. I was told here a while back that the whole notion was ridiculous.
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I would hope the FBI has CIs within terrorist organizations. Maybe even imbedded under cover agents. Covert ops aren't all evil conspiracies. Sometimes they are the good guys.
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https://futurism.com/twitter-traffic-plummeting
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https://futurism.com/twitter-traffic-plummeting
I have accounts on both platforms. If significant potions of users leave Twitter/X, I think Musk will operate it at a loss just to have influence and the ability to manipulate the conversation. One thing I've learned about Bluesky is that it is open-sourced, which may make it less vulnerable to a billionaire takeover.
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It was nice of Jack to make a safe space echo chamber for the losers. Of course they’re going to go there.
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It was nice of Jack to make a safe space echo chamber for the losers. Of course they’re going to go there.
Haven't seen any porn that Jobu speaks of on the X!
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It was nice of Jack to make a safe space echo chamber for the losers. Of course they’re going to go there.
I have not gone there. Yet!
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https://mashable.com/article/elon-musk-x-declining-user-base-2025
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https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/13/bluesky-is-at-a-crossroads-as-users-petition-to-ban-jesse-singal-over-anti-trans-views-harassment/
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https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/13/bluesky-is-at-a-crossroads-as-users-petition-to-ban-jesse-singal-over-anti-trans-views-harassment/
And so it begins…
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[j]It’s either a place that promises it won’t host bad actors, or it’s a place that promises not to inflate the reach of bad actors thanks to its various moderation tools.
It cannot be both.[/i]
I would go with the latter. Free speech does not mean the guy has a right to an audience. Let readers decide.
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"Exclusive: Trump team wants to scrap car-crash reporting rule that Tesla opposes"
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/trump-transition-recommends-scrapping-car-crash-reporting-requirement-opposed-by-2024-12-13/
"Tesla's Autopilot software, particularly the misleadingly-named Full Self-Driving add-on, has been under heavy government scrutiny after being linked to hundreds of crashes and dozens of deaths.'
https://futurism.com/the-byte/trump-admin-drop-requirement-tesla-report-self-driving-crashes
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'The Trump transition team wants the incoming administration to drop a car-crash reporting requirement criticized by the Alliance for Automotive Innovation and Tesla. The Alliance does not include Tesla as a member.'
" The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, a trade group representing most major automakers except Tesla, has also criticized the requirement as burdensome."
Lol
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'The Trump transition team wants the incoming administration to drop a car-crash reporting requirement criticized by the Alliance for Automotive Innovation and Tesla. The Alliance does not include Tesla as a member.'
" The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, a trade group representing most major automakers except Tesla, has also criticized the requirement as burdensome."
Lol
FAFO
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'The Trump transition team wants the incoming administration to drop a car-crash reporting requirement criticized by the Alliance for Automotive Innovation and Tesla. The Alliance does not include Tesla as a member.'
" The Alliance for Automotive Innovation, a trade group representing most major automakers except Tesla, has also criticized the requirement as burdensome."
Lol
Shocking
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https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/news/article/2024/12/18/trump-vance-musk-press-kill-overall
Less than a day after details were released, the entire funding bill for the federal government -- and nearly $31 billion in disaster and economic aid to farmers -- appeared to fall apart Wednesday because President-elect Donald Trump, Vice-President-elect JD Vance and their adviser, Elon Musk, all want to kill the overall bill.
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I for one, am shocked.
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https://www.dtnpf.com/agriculture/web/ag/news/article/2024/12/18/trump-vance-musk-press-kill-overall
Less than a day after details were released, the entire funding bill for the federal government -- and nearly $31 billion in disaster and economic aid to farmers -- appeared to fall apart Wednesday because President-elect Donald Trump, Vice-President-elect JD Vance and their adviser, Elon Musk, all want to kill the overall bill.
Good. Congress does not deserve a raise.
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Good. Congress does not deserve a raise.
And Farmers don't deserve subsidies. Glad we are in agreement
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And Farmers don't deserve subsidies. Glad we are in agreement
Watch your mouth
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Will Trump be the oldest VP in history?
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Will Trump be the oldest VP in history?
The South African trophy hunter bagged an elephant.
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Good. Congress does not deserve a raise.
Are you referring to people like Senator Schatz from Hawaii ?
The House passed 8 or so bills this spring. They were DOA in the Senate.
Community notes for the win.
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Are you referring to people like Senator Schatz from Hawaii ?
The House passed 8 or so bills this spring. They were DOA in the Senate.
Community notes for the win.
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Filibustered by Mitch McConnell.
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Elon thinks it’s real…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1870158886658834825?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Elon thinks it’s real…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1870158886658834825?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
No one is saying voter fraud isn’t “real.” What it’s not, is significant.
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Filibustered by Mitch McConnell.
He was able to filibuster for so long because it takes him an hour to say a word.
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President Musk wants a Congresswoman expelled for being critical of him.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/maddow-blog-why-elon-musk-202434387.html
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https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/indian-immigration-is-great-for-america
Guess Elon did not see this coming....
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“If you force the world’s best talent to play for the other side, America will lose.” -- President Musk
Hard to argue with that..
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https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/indian-immigration-is-great-for-america
Guess Elon did not see this coming....
America First, meet Tech Bro greed.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-secures-25-million-landmark-agreement-apple-resolve-employment
While this sucks, I'm more concerned about the millions of agricultural, meat packing, construction, hospitality, and other essential workers without whom our economy would crash and burn.... and nothing is going to get a significant number of native-born workers to fill those positions.
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Lots of native born people already work in those industries, doing manual labor. Fewer every year though as we’ve let more and more people into the country to fill the low paying jobs that are replacing the high paying jobs we are losing. I suspect we have enough people to get your tofu to you in a timely manner.
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There appear to be more imported workers in some sectors; fewer in agricultural due to automation. It's probably about the same in the service and hospitality sector.
The increase might be in construction and some kinds of factory work. I have no idea what they get paid; but they seem to work circles around 'native born' counterparts and actually show up everyday. A 'Mexican" crew will finish is roof in one day that takes an American crew the better part of a week.
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There appear to be more imported workers in some sectors; fewer in agricultural due to automation. It's probably about the same in the service and hospitality sector.
The increase might be in construction and some kinds of factory work. I have no idea what they get paid; but they seem to work circles around 'native born' counterparts and actually show up everyday. A 'Mexican" crew will finish is roof in one day that takes an American crew the better part of a week.
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Lots of native born people already work in those industries, doing manual labor. Fewer every year though as we’ve let more and more people into the country to fill the low paying jobs that are replacing the high paying jobs we are losing. I suspect we have enough people to get your tofu to you in a timely manner.
Except that immigrant and native workers often compete for different lower-skilled jobs. Just watch the farm, meat packing, dairy and construction industries lobby the Trump Administration to spare their workers from any mass deportation orders. It’s already started.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-farm-groups-want-trump-spare-their-workers-deportation-2024-11-25/
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https://x.com/yashar/status/1872990996016816187
This is pretty crazy.
Bannon has gone with the argument that we need to train Americans, Musk retweeted a tweet that said that Americans are too retarded to train.
This is gonna be wild, neither of these two is a very good communicator, but the target audience is the Trump base, and they will default to the America first bleat by Bannon.
The counter argument is pretty simple. "Training" for a Computer Science, Mechanical Engineering, Electrical Engineering job in a leading US company is a four year degree, at this point top firms start by looking at Masters degrees.
Is Steve Bannon saying that Apple should pay high school graduates for 4-6 years to learn calculus and physics, thus also paying instructors? Remember that when you went to orientation at UIUC, they'd say look at the person to the left of you, and the person to the right of you, if you graduate one of them won't be there with you. Microsoft should pay someone and sink 2 years into them and then figure out - yeah, this person can't hack it.
We can't come up with a way to make college tuition free. Now Bannon wants US companies to PAY high school grads to be college students. And then be at risk for that employee leaving for another job once they get ramped up?
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If not the corporations that benefit, who then? The strapped working class? I agree the idea is stupid, but do we want state funded “free college” and a 50+% effective tax rate like Germany, where “eternal students” often drift in and out until they’re 30+? When you lower the perceived or actual price of something, people consume more of it.
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https://x.com/yashar/status/1872990996016816187
Bannon, Trump, Musk...they ALL act like toddlers. I think the question is where is the adult supervision? And wait until MAGAs favorite hobo finds out the Tech bros are telling Trump to go easy on the China tariffs.
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https://x.com/yashar/status/1872990996016816187
This is pretty crazy.
Bannon has gone with the argument that we need to train Americans, Musk retweeted a tweet that said that Americans are too retarded to train.
This is gonna be wild, neither of these two is a very good communicator, but the target audience is the Trump base, and they will default to the America first bleat by Bannon.
The counter argument is pretty simple. "Training" for a Computer Science, Mechanical Engineering, Electrical Engineering job in a leading US company is a four year degree, at this point top firms start by looking at Masters degrees.
Is Steve Bannon saying that Apple should pay high school graduates for 4-6 years to learn calculus and physics, thus also paying instructors? Remember that when you went to orientation at UIUC, they'd say look at the person to the left of you, and the person to the right of you, if you graduate one of them won't be there with you. Microsoft should pay someone and sink 2 years into them and then figure out - yeah, this person can't hack it.
We can't come up with a way to make college tuition free. Now Bannon wants US companies to PAY high school grads to be college students. And then be at risk for that employee leaving for another job once they get ramped up?
If they fail, they can be janitors or landscapers now that there will be a ton of job openings for that when we kick out all the underpaid illegals!
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If they fail, they can be janitors or landscapers now that there will be a ton of job openings for that when we kick out all the underpaid illegals!
I thought he claimed Americans were too retarded to work.
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I thought he claimed Americans were too retarded to work.
The world needs ditch diggers
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The world needs ditch diggers
Americans under 60 don't know how to use a shovel..
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Americans under 60 don't know how to use a shovel..
There's always the google for owner manuals and videos.
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Americans under 60 don't know how to use a shovel..
Nice of Nichi to tell us what we are really thinking. We can just stop posting our thoughts and wait to see what he says.
So most Americans ARE retarded AND lazy! Thanks!
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Nice of Nichi to tell us what we are really thinking. We can just stop posting our thoughts and wait to see what he says.
So most Americans ARE retarded AND lazy! Thanks!
Imitation is the highest form of flattery.
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Americans under 60 don't know how to use a shovel..
I’m well under 60 but old enough to have grown up on a farm when there was still a lot of manual labor. As a result I am quite handy with a shovel.
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I’m well under 60 but old enough to have grown up on a farm when there was still a lot of manual labor. As a result I am quite handy with a shovel.
Dig Nichi’s grave, Custard, and push him in it. It’s time…
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I don't thinks youngsters are lazy or stupid. Many don't know how to do things because they weren't taught. From what I can gather, it has been worse and has gotten better.
At one point, if I recall correctly, a majority of school age children didn't know where our food comes from. They thought it magically appeared in lunchrooms etc.
One time I was bbqing a whole chicken. One of my kids friends asked if that is where pieces of chicken came from..
Used to have a big garden. Some of the kids friends were surprised onions grew in dirt.
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So most Americans ARE retarded AND lazy! Thanks!
Now you are telling me what I really meant.
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1742409933411299706?t=tjcU56TXar9lK_ap9I65KA&s=19
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14253621/Elon-Musk-locks-reporter-X-article-sheds-light-Tesla-owners-alleged-alter-ego-Adrian-Dittman.html
President-elect Musk has mults like Tempo!
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If not the corporations that benefit, who then? The strapped working class? I agree the idea is stupid, but do we want state funded “free college” and a 50+% effective tax rate like Germany, where “eternal students” often drift in and out until they’re 30+? When you lower the perceived or actual price of something, people consume more of it.
The actual price of going to college is the opportunity cost of not being paid to go be an electrician or flip burgers during your healthiest youngest years. College is hard work that pays nothing other than the ability to go get a better paying job. The thing you are consuming by staying in college longer is your earning years.
If you drift in and out of college until you're 30+, even if tuition is free , you enter your 30's with no money.
Note I've always been an advocate that tuition should be free, but that's it. You still have to feed yourself and have somewhere to sleep, clothes to wear, a little beer money if that's your thing. So not only would college be expensive in terms of opportunity cost, but you are also paying money along the way without the income you would get from having a full time job.
To your first sentence - the answer is not "make corporations who benefit hire calculus instructors, build chemistry and physics labs" - it's raise taxes on the corporations to fund calculus instructors and build said labs at Universities. For some silicon valley startup, the cost of educating a couple of workers would be more than their entire series A VC funding.
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Americans under 60 don't know how to use a shovel..
I'm not 60 yet! How dare you insult my generation!
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All the c section kids with larger brains should go to college.
Is the /s necessary?
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Who knows what this is?
(https://i.ibb.co/B440Zxf/Screenshot-20250106-162556-2.png) (https://ibb.co/6vvjPxy)
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A post hole digger. Throw it away.
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A post hole digger. Throw it away.
I thought Custard would give it away..
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A post hole digger. Throw it away.
i own one. Not getting rid of it.
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I was introduced to a manual post hole digger about 60 years ago.
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Growing up in rural NE IL we called those something that sounded like “jawbers”
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Everything this incoming administration promised was bullshit. And 70 million plus fell for it
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/politics/elon-musk-backtracks-federal-budget-cuts/index.html
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There’s no shortage of money-saving targets in the federal government, Musk said, without offering any specifics.
“It’s very, very hard for people to care about spending someone else’s money,” he said.
“Actually, I know people in the government who do care about, just as a matter of principle, spending money effectively. And they try to do so, and they can’t. The system prevents them from doing so.”
"For example, I don't care about spending Tesla Shareholders money on my compensation package"
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Everything this incoming administration promised was bullshit. And 70 million plus fell for it
https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/09/politics/elon-musk-backtracks-federal-budget-cuts/index.html
Not very long ago you were mad that they were making these promises. Now you’re mad they’re backing off on some of the more extreme claims. Meanwhile Nichi is doing to spend the next 4 years parsing everything Trump says for jokes he can take seriously and get upset or confused by
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Who knows what this is?
(https://i.ibb.co/B440Zxf/Screenshot-20250106-162556-2.png) (https://ibb.co/6vvjPxy)
You pull non c-section babies out with it.
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Not very long ago you were mad that they were making these promises. Now you’re mad they’re backing off on some of the more extreme claims. Meanwhile Nichi is doing to spend the next 4 years parsing everything Trump says for jokes he can take seriously and get upset or confused by
Murph actually voted for him for a reason.
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You pull non c-section babies out with it.
Good one, Tempo!
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Not very long ago you were mad that they were making these promises. Now you’re mad they’re backing off on some of the more extreme claims. Meanwhile Nichi is doing to spend the next 4 years parsing everything Trump says for jokes he can take seriously and get upset or confused by
I have to admit that I've tuned a lot of this out, except what I read here. Figured I would save any outrage for when he actually does something stupid instead of just saying stupid stuff.
I still have no clue what all the Greenland shit is all about. Haven't bothered to read up on it as it seems completely over the top in its ridiculousness. Panama Canal, I get.....
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I was introduced to a manual post hole digger about 60 years ago.
I have a post digger named Manuel
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I have a post digger named Manuel
How long is he going to be around?
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I have to admit that I've tuned a lot of this out, except what I read here. Figured I would save any outrage for when he actually does something stupid instead of just saying stupid stuff.
I still have no clue what all the Greenland shit is all about. Haven't bothered to read up on it as it seems completely over the top in its ridiculousness. Panama Canal, I get.....
The ridiculousness is because it came from Trump.
From the wiki
"Since the 19th century, the United States has considered, and made, several attempts to purchase the island of Greenland from Denmark, as it did with the Danish West Indies in 1917. Internal discussions within the United States Government about acquiring Greenland notably occurred in 1867, 1910, 1946, and 2019 ...."
It could help national security and maybe they wouldn't mind getting away from the Danes.
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The ridiculousness is because it came from Trump.
From the wiki
"Since the 19th century, the United States has considered, and made, several attempts to purchase the island of Greenland from Denmark, as it did with the Danish West Indies in 1917. Internal discussions within the United States Government about acquiring Greenland notably occurred in 1867, 1910, 1946, and 2019 ...."
It could help national security and maybe they wouldn't mind getting away from the Danes.
Purchasing is one thing... isn't he raising other avenues?
I'm sure they are just dying to be Americans at this point
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The ridiculousness is because it came from Trump.
From the wiki
"Since the 19th century, the United States has considered, and made, several attempts to purchase the island of Greenland from Denmark, as it did with the Danish West Indies in 1917. Internal discussions within the United States Government about acquiring Greenland notably occurred in 1867, 1910, 1946, and 2019 ...."
It could help national security and maybe they wouldn't mind getting away from the Danes.
The normalization of Trump insanity continues unabated. Greenlanders don’t want another landlord or boss. They want independence. There's no way Trump’s going to create a new state or territory by taking over a population that will hate us from the jump.
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-junior-visit-was-staged-says-greenland-lawmaker/
Now if Co-President Musk earmarked $10-20 billion to bribe everyone in Greenland, maybe they could win a plebiscite at least.
MAGA Global Domination!
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Not very long ago you were mad that they were making these promises. Now you’re mad they’re backing off on some of the more extreme claims. Meanwhile Nichi is doing to spend the next 4 years parsing everything Trump says for jokes he can take seriously and get upset or confused by
I was mad that 70 million people fell for this bullshit
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The ridiculousness is because it came from Trump.
From the wiki
"Since the 19th century, the United States has considered, and made, several attempts to purchase the island of Greenland from Denmark, as it did with the Danish West Indies in 1917. Internal discussions within the United States Government about acquiring Greenland notably occurred in 1867, 1910, 1946, and 2019 ...."
It could help national security and maybe they wouldn't mind getting away from the Danes.
Nope.
We already have bases there. Maybe Trump wants to buy Greenland so he can remove the US from NATO without losing access to Greenland.
As it stands, we get the usage of Greenland without having to pay to support Greenland. Win win
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How long is he going to be around?
Probably about 60 years
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Probably about 60 years
You check your contractors' residency documents like Judge Judy checks "packages" at public restrooms?
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Whatcha call dis?
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forum image host (https://imgbb.com/)
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Potato fork!
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https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2025/01/09/elon-musk-german-far-right-party-hitler/77584508007/
Elmo = Alfred Hugenberg is a match.
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https://www.wired.com/story/neo-nazis-love-elon-musk-nazi-like-salutes-trumps-inauguration/
You know a “locker room talk” type explanation is coming soon. Musk should really ask for a refund for all that cosmetic work.
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It's possible that he was saluting the families of Israeli hostages who would have been behind him. Turns to put his hand on his heart and said "my heart goes out to you".
Did they show a video ?
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That’s a good question. Why don’t you check with the neo-Nazi groups? Maybe they were mistaken or misquoted. Let us know what you find out.
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That’s a good question. Why don’t you check with the neo-Nazi groups? Maybe they were mistaken or misquoted. Let us know what you find out.
I've seen some video
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Where’s illiniray with the defense?! Saying it was taken out of context. Or does that only work when it’s people he approves of?!
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Potato fork!
That'll work. We called it a spading fork or garden fork. I have tilled a whole garden from sod with one of those and a hoe.
City folk get it confused with this:
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I've seen some video
Musk is African-American. He is allowed to say or do what he wants without being criticized.
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Musk is African-American. He is allowed to say or do what he wants without being criticized.
this is in fact, literally true, because by executive order trump has renamed "South Africa" to "Africa America"
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this is in fact, literally true, because by executive order trump has renamed "South Africa" to "Africa America"
It is impossible to distinguish the satire about Trump from actual news.
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https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1881567286273990873?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1881567286273990873?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Who is stitching the video of Elmo and Laura Ingraham giving the salute to each other?
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Hmmm?
https://x.com/JackSwarbrick2/status/1881835168430002390?t=trHAW7AUg9s2IPMt_pR84Q&s=19
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Not sure how anyone can watch it in context and see a nazi salute, it’s been purposely edited down to take it out of context, just like the Charlottesville stuff Trump said. He says “my heart goes out to you” as he covers his heart with his palm, then pushes his arm out and away from him while opening his palm to the crowd. Was it the best gesture he could have made? Obviously not. But it sure is amazing how all these people live rent free in the heads of the left. Didn’t take long to start making up narratives, but at least this time around the playing field is a little more leveled as the legacy media is on life support and social media is no longer just a mouthpiece for the left.
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Say what you will about neo nazis but there are no better judges as to what it was. They can recognize an ally when they see one.
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https://x.com/i/status/1881844234304770184
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AOC wants to get beaten. She hates herself. 😂😂
https://x.com/i/status/1881904270582468664
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https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1881567286273990873?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Certainly you know the difference between hand gestures and a full on Nazi salute. Then again, you probably don’t.
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https://zygaro.substack.com/p/musk-and-moscow?triedRedirect=true
Hmmm
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https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1881567286273990873?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Let’s see the videos and not just the screen shots.
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Let’s see the videos and not just the screen shots.
And Elon’s actions in full context…
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AOC wants to get beaten. She hates herself. 😂😂
https://x.com/i/status/1881904270582468664
I first read that as "I want to beat off to AOC"
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And Elon’s actions in full context…
That context is autism mixed with Ketamine.
As many say, "Autism is my superpower". I like that sentiment, except that Musk is not Superman, he's General Zod
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AOC wants to get beaten. She hates herself. 😂😂
https://x.com/i/status/1881904270582468664
An AOC is stupid post. How original.
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An AOC is stupid post. How original.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Musk is a Nazi.
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I made an inappropriate misogynistic mistake. I'm blaming the cottage cheese and apple for lunch.
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https://zygaro.substack.com/p/musk-and-moscow?triedRedirect=true
Hmmm
Fake AI news is Fake AI news
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Oh, I'm sorry.
Musk is a Nazi.
I wish. The Nazis at least got the trains to run on time. Musk delivers his vehicles way behind schedule then they automatically crash into shit and explode.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
Musk is a Nazi.
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I made an inappropriate misogynistic mistake. I'm blaming the cottage cheese and apple for lunch.
https://x.com/ishdavidd/status/1881925203250598338?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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And Elon’s actions in full context…
https://x.com/ishdavidd/status/1881925203250598338?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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It’s amazing that you can’t see what he’s trying to do here with “giving you his heart”
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Hahahahahahahahahaha thanks, but he can keep it.
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It’s the extra oomph at that end that makes me skeptical he meant anything else.
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https://x.com/ishdavidd/status/1881925203250598338?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
That's not exactly the same audio as at the Trump post-inauguration rally. It's off by a little bit. 🤏
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Trump proposed to spend 500 Billion on AI infrastructure.
Elon says this is a dumb idea.
Trump doesn't like to be told he is dumb, ergo the 500 Billion is locked in.
Nvidia stock up 15 bucks in the last 4 days.
Maybe Elon isn't such a bad guy after all.
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/01/23/heil-musk-projected-onto-german-tesla-factory/
Now this is funny.
And Tempo still supporting Musk and Trump is even funnier.
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https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/elon-musk-effigy-hanged-square-34534660
Just like Mussolini. LOL. These people didn't see him just giving his heart out?
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Wonder if those are the same type of communists as Rage Against the Machine that used the evil capitalist system to get filthy rich and stay that way
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/01/23/heil-musk-projected-onto-german-tesla-factory/
Now this is funny.
And Tempo still supporting Musk and Trump is even funnier.
"UK group Led By Donkeys"
😂😂
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Wonder if those are the same type of communists as Rage Against the Machine that used the evil capitalist system to get filthy rich and stay that way
Good whataboutism! Sure, Tom Morello is fairly rich (but not that rich by rock star standards), but he also does a lot to support charity and working people. I’ll bet he does more than your tech bro hero who’s worth 1,000x what Morello is worth.
https://musicwill.org/blog/humanitarian-of-the-year-tom-morello/
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Why are there no Elon Musk cancer centers or hospitals?
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Why are there no Elon Musk cancer centers or hospitals?
He doesn't have cancer yet, so it doesn't serve his interest to pump money into it.
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My bad, my math wasn’t mathing. Make that 10,000x what Morello is worth!
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This seems to check out.
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He’s not worried about saving individuals—he is saving the entire species.
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He’s not worried about saving individuals—he is saving the entire species.
Thanks to Musk - the cockroaches will survive
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He’s not worried about saving individuals—he is saving the entire species.
He cares more about his ego than than species.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/25/musk-german-afd-rally-weidel-00200620
You know, that mass murder thing 80 years ago, just fuggeddaboudit!
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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/01/25/musk-german-afd-rally-weidel-00200620
You know, that mass murder thing 80 years ago, just fuggeddaboudit!
That right wing German party is pushing the revisionist notion that Hitler and the Nazis were somehow socialists and even communists. This appears to based largely on the fact that Nazi literally means National Socialist.
Some argue that Hitler only used the name because socialism was popular and it attracted people to his cause. I think he toyed with Socialism, but ultimately abandoned it when he formed an alliance with the establishment.
They also call themselves Libertarian, but they seem to me to be the Mises Caucus type
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President Musk causing havoc so as to empower and enrich himself.
https://x.com/jasmineforus/status/1885428552079991168?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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All part of the plan for the executive branch to take over the government. Ignoring court orders is part of the project 2025. Basically, they say who is going to enforce them?
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All part of the plan for the executive branch to take over the government. Ignoring court orders is part of the project 2025. Basically, they say who is going to enforce them?
No coincidence Trump looks up to Andrew Jackson.
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No coincidence Trump looks up to Andrew Jackson.
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Andrew Jackson was a Democrat who was not a pussy. Of course you hate him. He also told those Indians to walk to Oklahoma. He did not list his pronouns in his email either.
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https://open.substack.com/pub/olgalautman/p/why-has-musk-gained-access-to-our?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
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https://open.substack.com/pub/olgalautman/p/why-has-musk-gained-access-to-our?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Yes, call your congressman to complain.....Guess what, Nichi? No one give a shit about this because it does not impact anyone in a direct way. Who cares if if it is Bureaucrat Joe versus Hacker Bob now working for DOGE with access to the same shit you voluntarily give to The FaceBook and The Goggle? This is akin to Demi Moore's "strenuous objection" in a Few Good Men. Let's maybe focus on the real world shit that these morons are fucking up very soon. Because that is coming because they cannot help themselves....
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Yes, call your congressman to complain.....Guess what, Nichi? No one give a shit about this because it does not impact anyone in a direct way. Who cares if if it is Bureaucrat Joe versus Hacker Bob now working for DOGE with access to the same shit you voluntarily give to The FaceBook and The Goggle? This is akin to Demi Moore's "strenuous objection" in a Few Good Men. Let's maybe focus on the real world shit that these morons are fucking up very soon. Because that is coming because they cannot help themselves....
which real world shit? They've flooded the zone with far too much of it to keep track of
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which real world shit? They've flooded the zone with far too much of it to keep track of
Pocket book issues, Murph. He is going to be costing people money very soon.
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Pocket book issues, Murph. He is going to be costing people money very soon.
I say it's eggs, you say it's not eggs. I say it's something else, you say it's eggs.
Battle of ADHD wits
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I say it's eggs, you say it's not eggs. I say it's something else, you say it's eggs.
Battle of ADHD wits
It is going to wind up being more than eggs as this continues down the path. We know the eggs is the Bird Flu and no one wants to use vaccines *gasp* on the chickens to inoculate them here in the States.....like they do in Mexico apparently.
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Polls tend to indicate people care.
Only 30% of Americans approve of Elon Musk-led DOGE, new poll finds
https://www.semafor.com/article/01/24/2025/only-30-of-americans-approve-of-trumps-doge-poll-shows
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Polls tend to indicate people care.
Only 30% of Americans approve of Elon Musk-led DOGE, new poll finds
https://www.semafor.com/article/01/24/2025/only-30-of-americans-approve-of-trumps-doge-poll-shows
I read that as they do not like Musk. Does not mean they do not like making bureaucrats' lives miserable. You saw what happened when Medicaid got shut down. They backtracked before the courts could even weigh in.
No one gives a shit about USAID. Most people think that money is wasted on people who hate us anyway, so why bother giving them food and vaccines and shit?
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Envy, jealously, greed, resentment, ignorance, etc. are certainly strong motivators.. the current Republicans pander to that side of us. But Americans can also be kind, compassionate, and generous. Real leaders inspire and bring out the best in us.
The fact that sounds corny and naive shows how jaded we are.
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Envy, jealously, greed, resentment, ignorance, etc. are certainly strong motivators.. the current Republicans pander to that side of us. But Americans can also be kind, compassionate, and generous. Real leaders inspire and bring out the best in us.
The fact that sounds corny and naive shows how jaded we are.
Nichi, these are the same people who do not want to help pay for the Ukrainians to fight the Soviets themselves so we do not have to later. Do you really think they care about paying so there is clean water in {insert poor Africa country here}?
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Nichi, these are the same people who do not want to help pay for the Ukrainians to fight the Soviets themselves so we do not have to later. Do you really think they care about paying so there is clean water in {insert poor Africa country here}?
Show them videos of poor African children without clean water; then show them how USAID makes a difference. Tell them if we don't act; China will..
There is no leadership. The left is arrogant and lacking in sales skills. They can't even sell something simple like masks, social distancing, and vaccines.
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Nichi, these are the same people who do not want to help pay for the Ukrainians to fight the Soviets themselves so we do not have to later. Do you really think they care about paying so there is clean water in {insert poor Africa country here}?
they don't believe in pandemics so why would we need to vaccinate the Africans? It's not like measles is bad.
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Envy, jealously, greed, resentment, ignorance, etc. are certainly strong motivators.. the current Republicans pander to that side of us. But Americans can also be kind, compassionate, and generous. Real leaders inspire and bring out the best in us.
The fact that sounds corny and naive shows how jaded we are.
The current republicans are furiously cleaning up the wreckage of failed progressive ideology by fixing the border, deporting criminals, protecting American trade interests, horrible waste and abuse of taxpayer money on insane pet pork projects to line their cronies’ pockets, etc. Which is exactly what voters hired them to do. Somehow taking care of our myriad domestic issues decisively, sometimes at the expense of countries that have been exploiting us under weak leadership, has led the TDS left to lose their damn minds.
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Nichi, these are the same people who do not want to help pay for the Ukrainians to fight the Soviets themselves so we do not have to later. Do you really think they care about paying so there is clean water in {insert poor Africa country here}?
Ahh yes the $200 BILLION lie that we are helping Ukraine so we don’t have to fight Putin later. Maybe if we hadn’t broken our own agreements with Russia by moving NATO right up to their borders we wouldn’t have this problem. Wonder how many government lowlifes in Ukraine are rich now from this? Wonder who else domestically benefited? Insane to think Putin was going to try and retake the Eastern Bloc, their military is trash. Just a money grab for Dem war hawks and the MIC. Isn’t it interesting how Russia is surviving after all the sanction theater lol
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The current republicans are furiously cleaning up the wreckage of failed progressive ideology by fixing the border, deporting criminals, protecting American trade interests, horrible waste and abuse of taxpayer money on insane pet pork projects to line their cronies’ pockets, etc. Which is exactly what voters hired then to do. Somehow taking care of our myriad domestic issues decisively, sometimes at the expense of countries that have been exploiting us under weak leadership, has led the TDS left to lose their damn minds.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/ft-D-K9Fl7g
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Maybe if we hadn’t broken our own agreements with Russia by moving NATO right up to their borders we wouldn’t have this problem.
Who gives a fuck about Russia? Fuck them. We should move the border right up to Russia and then invade.
Those fuckers tried to take out Patrick Swayze. Didn't you even see Red Dawn?
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Show them videos of poor African children without clean water; then show them how USAID makes a difference. Tell them if we don't act; China will..
Didn't Sally Struthers made a living off of that after All in the Family?
Do you really think the same people bitching about Ukraine military aid give a rat's ass about Africa kids without clean water?
Obligatory Sam Kinison original Letterman appearance discussing this issue here....
https://youtu.be/m_VURr6jnWQ?si=fWyt6IZZR6mY710_&t=282
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Who gives a fuck about Russia? Fuck them. We should move the border right up to Russia and then invade.
Those fuckers tried to take out Patrick Swayze. Didn't you even see Red Dawn?
I was more upset about Jen Gray.
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Maybe if we hadn’t broken our own agreements with Russia by moving NATO right up to their borders we wouldn’t have this problem.
Custard falling for Soviet disinformation! Shocking!
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
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Ahh yes the $200 BILLION lie that we are helping Ukraine so we don’t have to fight Putin later. Maybe if we hadn’t Isn’t it interesting how Russia is surviving after all the sanction theater lol
Seem to be plodding along just like the Cubans are.
Calling in the North Koreans to help is not a sign of things going well....
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Who gives a fuck about Russia? Fuck them. We should move the border right up to Russia and then invade.
Those fuckers tried to take out Patrick Swayze. Didn't you even see Red Dawn?
Should make them the 51st state. They would be far better off.....
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Yes, call your congressman to complain.....Guess what, Nichi? No one give a shit about this because it does not impact anyone in a direct way. Who cares if if it is Bureaucrat Joe versus Hacker Bob now working for DOGE with access to the same shit you voluntarily give to The FaceBook and The Goggle? This is akin to Demi Moore's "strenuous objection" in a Few Good Men. Let's maybe focus on the real world shit that these morons are fucking up very soon. Because that is coming because they cannot help themselves....
Of course it matters. Musk is already threatening to cut off federal funds that go to Lutheran Charities. I’m sure there are other federal programs or services on his radar.
https://religionnews.com/2025/02/03/musk-spotlights-federal-funds-for-lutheran-social-services-calls-them-illegal-payments/
Hacker Bob will simply execute Musk's orders. Bureaucrat Joe will explain the funding program to DOGE and Musk can then recommend to Trump whether the program should be revised or eliminated. Trump may be able to implement Musk’s recommendations through an executive order, but more than likely he will have to go to Congress to revise or shutdown the program. With Republicans controlling both houses, the chances of success will be pretty good.
Now let’s go back to Lutheran Charities. This organization has a contract(s) with certain federal agencies to perform duties that were authorized by Congress through legislation. The agency established rules to disperse the funds to ensure those duties are carried out properly. The recipients have to submit periodic performance reports and financial data. They must also allow federal agencies to perform a program audit if requested. The grants are typically published online and the agency will issue an annual report summarizing the program outcomes.
If Trump doesn’t like certain federal funding programs, he can go to Congress and ask that the program be terminated. It shouldn’t be unilaterally done by Musk and Hacker Bob.
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Of course it matters. Musk is already threatening to cut off federal funds that go to Lutheran Charities. I’m sure there are other federal programs or services on his radar.
https://religionnews.com/2025/02/03/musk-spotlights-federal-funds-for-lutheran-social-services-calls-them-illegal-payments/
Hacker Bob will simply execute Musk's orders. Bureaucrat Joe will explain the funding program to DOGE and Musk can then recommend to Trump whether the program should be revised or eliminated. Trump may be able to implement Musk’s recommendations through an executive order, but more than likely he will have to go to Congress to revise or shutdown the program. With Republicans controlling both houses, the chances of success will be pretty good.
Now let’s go back to Lutheran Charities. This organization has a contract(s) with certain federal agencies to perform duties that were authorized by Congress through legislation. The agency established rules to disperse the funds to ensure those duties are carried out properly. The recipients have to submit periodic performance reports and financial data. They must also allow federal agencies to perform a program audit if requested. The grants are typically published online and the agency will issue an annual report summarizing the program outcomes.
If Trump doesn’t like certain federal funding programs, he can go to Congress and ask that the program be terminated. It shouldn’t be unilaterally done by Musk and Hacker Bob.
I am not going to say that what is going on is in any way "legal." I am saying, politically, no one really gives a shit.
These people do not care that Lutheran Social Services won't be able to pay its counselors to see junkies or give them methadone. They will only care when said junkies are back on the junk as a result and burglarizing cars looking for easy money to pay for the junk. Then they will blame prosecutors and the courts for not locking up the junkies instead of Trump and President Musk....
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Have you seen where some of the money to Lutheran charities actually ends up or just magically assume it’s all good?
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Custard falling for Soviet disinformation! Shocking!
https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/115204.htm
Yeah there’s no way NATO would distort anything to prop up a narrative!
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Yeah there’s no way NATO would distort anything to prop up a narrative!
How could I fall for that and not believe the Soviets? What am I thinking?
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Have you seen where some of the money to Lutheran charities actually ends up or just magically assume it’s all good?
I am sure it all went to Davey and Goliath merchandising. Those Lutherans do love themselves some Claymation.
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Now do Catholic Charities
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. Maybe if we hadn’t broken our own agreements with Russia by moving NATO right up to their borders we wouldn’t have this problem.
I don't think there was any such promise. Sounds like RT / EAD bs..
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Yeah there’s no way NATO would distort anything to prop up a narrative!
Our leaders don't murder journalists.
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Have you seen where some of the money to Lutheran charities actually ends up or just magically assume it’s all good?
Their social service programs for individuals and families look pretty good to me (food banks, foster care, disaster response, emothional and spiritual support, etc.).
https://www.lutheranchurchcharities.org/
Just becuase you don't like some of their services doesn't mean they are bad. They've applied for federal funding that was authorized by Congress.
Complain to your congressman.
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They've applied for federal funding that was authorized by Congress.
We have a winner. Not that this Congress is going to do anything about the usurpation of its Constitutional role here.
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"Rubio can only say so much because both Trump and Musk have unleashed their trademark batshit invective against the place. Trump said USAID is run by “a bunch of radical lunatics.” Musk topped that, tweeting, “USAID is a criminal organization,” later adding, “Did you know that USAID, using YOUR tax dollars, funded bioweapon research, including COVID-19, that killed millions of people?”'
More: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2025/02/usaid-donald-trump-elon-musk-doge-government-freeze.html
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Our leaders don't murder journalists.
You sure about that? They murder everyone else.
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I don't think there was any such promise. Sounds like RT / EAD bs..
Sources from ally nations that aren’t NATO propaganda or RT seem to have a different take.
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/why-nato-expansion-explains-russias-actions-in-ukraine/
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Sources from ally nations that aren’t NATO propaganda or RT seem to have a different take.
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/why-nato-expansion-explains-russias-actions-in-ukraine/
Tom Switzer, meet fellow Australian "source" John West.
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/on-nato-expansion e-and-russias-actions-in-ukraine/
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Tom Switzer, meet fellow Australian "source" John West.
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/on-nato-expansion e-and-russias-actions-in-ukraine/
Of course there would be a rebuttal, too much at stake to let someone tell the truth.
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Sources from ally nations that aren’t NATO propaganda or RT seem to have a different take.
https://www.internationalaffairs.org.au/australianoutlook/why-nato-expansion-explains-russias-actions-in-ukraine/
This is exactly what’s been going on for years now. “This just how the Russians are”:
Shortly after the Senate ratified the first tranche of enlargement (Czech Republic, Hungary, and Poland) in April 1998, Kennan told Thomas Friedman: “I think it is the beginning of new Cold War… Of course, there is going to be a bad reaction from Russia, and then [the NATO expanders] will say we always told you that is how the Russians are – but this is just wrong.”
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Of course there would be a rebuttal, too much at stake to let someone tell the truth.
The "truth"? That's cute.
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The "truth"? That's cute.
The truth is that some of the world’s best minds knew this would cause problems back in the 90s, but that’s all been memory holed to support this bogus money laundering war
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Russia: It's their fault we committed a brutal act of aggression. They provoked us.
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It's gone from NATO broke their promise to Russia to not expand, to it was a bad idea and some predicted as much.
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It's gone from NATO broke their promise to Russia to not expand, to it was a bad idea and some predicted as much.
Well; that kinda did happen, but of course we as Americans and NATO members are obligated to just go ahead and whitewash that so we can form a false narrative which allows us to do whatever we want. It’s not like I made this up, there is plenty to read out there. Pretty naive to think none of it had any effect and our side did nothing wrong. Then again, that’s exactly what you’ve been led to believe for good reason.
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The truth is that some of the world’s best minds knew this would cause problems back in the 90s, but that’s all been memory holed to support this bogus money laundering war
World's Best Minds = someone who confirms Custard's existing beliefs.
This war has very little to do with NATO. Putin wants Ukraine, plain and simple. He doesn't see Ukraine as a legitimate independent country, culture or society, but as a historical part of Russia that was wrongly separated from them when the Soviet Union disintegrated.
This is a revanchist war to help reconstitute historical Greater Russia, to include Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Baltic Republics and Poland. Finland is probably a bridge to far, even for a Peter the Great wannabe like Putin.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/putin-compares-himself-to-peter-the-great-in-quest-to-take-back-russian-lands
Slava Ukraini!
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World's Best Minds = someone who confirms Custard's existing beliefs.
This war has very little to do with NATO. Putin wants Ukraine, plain and simple. He doesn't see Ukraine as a legitimate independent country, culture or society, but as a historical part of Russia that was wrongly separated from them when the Soviet Union disintegrated.
This is a revanchist war to help reconstitute historical Greater Russia, to include Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Baltic Republics and Poland. Finland is probably a bridge to far, even for a Peter the Great wannabe like Putin.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/putin-compares-himself-to-peter-the-great-in-quest-to-take-back-russian-lands
Slava Ukraini!
Has very little to do with NATO?
He’s only been openly griping about it for decades and the growing influence of the west (US and other NATO countries, including the overthrow of their democratically elected government) in Ukraine over the last 10+ years pushed everything to the brink. Did you think he was going to let the west pull Ukraine into NATO without a fight? He’d be insane to.
I know Ray is a big Cato guy, not sure if it holds any water with you. Can you imagine if Putin was doing this on our border?
https://www.cato.org/commentary/washington-helped-trigger-ukraine-war
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Of course supporting a fledging democracy helped cause the war....
Custard = Henry Kissinger is a match!
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Now do Catholic Charities
Probably goes to pay lawyers to defend them against former alter boys....
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This is exactly what’s been going on for years now. “This just how the Russians are”:
Have to love a cite to George Kennan. That guy has flip flopped since it was his Containment Doctrine that got us into Vietnam. Except once that was going down the shitter, he bitched that everyone misread what he had been saying all along and it wasn't his fault! Ok George, if you say so...
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https://www.cato.org/commentary/interventionist-dilemma-rules-based-order-versus-humanitarian-exception
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https://www.cato.org/commentary/interventionist-dilemma-rules-based-order-versus-humanitarian-exception
Been long dead.
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Probably goes to pay lawyers to defend them against former alter boys....
Well, probably not. But now do Wuhan.
It's not the concept of USAID that is the issue. It's the execution of the program.
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Well, probably not. But now do Wuhan.
In New Orleans they are....Wuhan probably developing vaccines against the bird flu that we will not use but Mexico will. And we will wonder why eggs are cheaper in Mexico.
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In New Orleans they are....Wuhan probably developing vaccines against the bird flu that we will not use but Mexico will. And we will wonder why eggs are cheaper in Mexico.
Does the bird flu virus have a furin cleavage site in it ?
Maybe Menendez can get the documents but probably not.
https://x.com/i/status/1886098345938284813
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The fishwrap had a story about El Salvador accepting Americans but I don't remember a mention of their being so cooperative. ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/LzcCZ5Sq/Screenshot-20250204-073839-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pvM3Ly2s)
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The fishwrap had a story about El Salvador accepting Americans but I don't remember a mention of their being so cooperative. ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/LzcCZ5Sq/Screenshot-20250204-073839-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pvM3Ly2s)
Why are all these Americans going to El Salvador? I mean, I was in El Salvador last summer, didn't seem like a big deal, why is there a story about it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD2Ji1bwbFQ
what the fuck is this even about? Sending a 19 year old intern to go do "something" inside a federal agency? Takes months to onboard people with masters degrees. Now, they don't teach GPU design at University, and these places are probably just plugging and playing a bunch of Microsoft tools, whereas most of the stuff we are dealing with is developed in house and takes a long time to learn, but this makes no sense.
19 year old going in to do "code reviews"? What's he gonna do, complain that some worker hand rolled his own data structure instead of using a boost library off the shelf, so Trump should fire the guy?
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Does the bird flu virus have a furin cleavage site in it ?
Maybe Menendez can get the documents but probably not.
https://x.com/i/status/1886098345938284813
I do not know, but apparently the vaccine works!
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The fishwrap had a story about El Salvador accepting Americans but I don't remember a mention of their being so cooperative. ;D
(https://i.ibb.co/LzcCZ5Sq/Screenshot-20250204-073839-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/pvM3Ly2s)
Now tell us how much money they are getting paid by the US to do this.....
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD2Ji1bwbFQ
what the fuck is this even about? Sending a 19 year old intern to go do "something" inside a federal agency? Takes months to onboard people with masters degrees. Now, they don't teach GPU design at University, and these places are probably just plugging and playing a bunch of Microsoft tools, whereas most of the stuff we are dealing with is developed in house and takes a long time to learn, but this makes no sense.
19 year old going in to do "code reviews"? What's he gonna do, complain that some worker hand rolled his own data structure instead of using a boost library off the shelf, so Trump should fire the guy?
The Deep State is no longer part of the "State" but of a company.....Hmmm. Going to put the Military-Industrial Complex to shame.
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The Deep State is no longer part of the "State" but of a company.....Hmmm. Going to put the Military-Industrial Complex to shame.
More likely we're all gonna die because Musk believes that the Matthew Broderick character in "War Games" was real and put some 17 year old in charge of the nuclear control software and he has one too many Mountain Dew Code Reds and launches the nukes.
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Now tell us how much money they are getting paid by the US to do this.....
Don't know how much it costs to house a prisoner here vs in El Salvador but it may be cost effective
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Don't know how much it costs to house a prisoner here vs in El Salvador but it may be cost effective
Or may not. Are we counting in the cost of travel? Apparently these military transports have been pretty expensive to run. Prisons can be good union jobs in the US!
I have no problem getting rid of these people, but I cannot say that there is a history of Trump making profitable deals on our behalf.
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I suppose somebody might have an interest in looking into a rise in grant money for ethnic Tibetans in China.
It does look like a good 'non-profit' to 'work' for if you're wanting to work in a non-governmental organization funded primarily by the government.
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(https://dedupelist.com/)
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Sounds like a job for Congress, since it appropriated the money.
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Don't know how much it costs to house a prisoner here vs in El Salvador but it may be cost effective
far less because the Salvodoraneans will just let them die, and continue to collect checks anyway
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far less because the Salvodoraneans will just let them die, and continue to collect checks anyway
That actually could be a win-win.
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Sounds like a job for Congress, since it appropriated the money.
Committees with oversight not getting the information they need to provide ovesight is a problem.
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Committees with oversight not getting the information they need to provide ovesight is a problem.
Then Congress should not approve the money. That would change things, one would think.
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Then Congress should not approve the money. That would change things, one would think.
But then they won't be getting the money back in the form of 'small donor contributions'.
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But then they won't be getting the money back in the form of 'small donor contributions'.
New sheriff in town though.
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World's Best Minds = someone who confirms Custard's existing beliefs.
This war has very little to do with NATO. Putin wants Ukraine, plain and simple. He doesn't see Ukraine as a legitimate independent country, culture or society, but as a historical part of Russia that was wrongly separated from them when the Soviet Union disintegrated.
This is a revanchist war to help reconstitute historical Greater Russia, to include Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, the Baltic Republics and Poland. Finland is probably a bridge to far, even for a Peter the Great wannabe like Putin.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/10/putin-compares-himself-to-peter-the-great-in-quest-to-take-back-russian-lands
Slava Ukraini!
Naw! Putin is just really mad because NATO expanded.
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the overthrow of their democratically elected government) in Ukraine
You mean when the Russian ally got elected under false pretenses and was run out of the country after he showed his hand?
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I know Ray is a big Cato guy ...
Not really anymore. They are authentically and consistently libertarian. I am a recovering libertarian.
A lot of what passes itself off as libertarianism these days is really something else, such as ethnic nationalism or anarcho-capitalism etc.
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Naw! Putin is just really mad because NATO expanded.
Both things can absolutely be true.
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I do not know, but apparently the vaccine works!
To 'work', it must provide 100% lifetime immunity after a single dose with no side effects or rumors of side effects.
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Both things can absolutely be true.
Should Putin's mental states govern NATO's policies in Eastern Europe?
Mexico and Canada, our close allies and trade partners, are pissed off at Trump right now. I bet he doesn't give a shit.
While they are unlikely to attack overtly soon ...
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That actually could be a win-win.
why not just let them die here and save the plane fare!
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Committees with oversight not getting the information they need to provide ovesight is a problem.
If an oversight committee didn't get the information they need, seems like we should be firing a few members of the oversight committee. Can we start with Jim Jordan?
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Is this the NGO?
https://www.fhi360.org/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FHI_360
Location North Carolina, United States
Area served Field offices in 32 nations
Currently operating in 70 nations
Revenue $790,200,000+ (2019)
Employees 4,000 employees
https://projects.propublica.org/nonprofits/organizations/237413005
Type of Nonprofit
Designated as a 501(c)(3)
Category: International, Foreign Affairs and National Security / International Development, Relief Services (NTEE)
Donations to this organization are tax deductible.
Fiscal Year Ending Sept.
2023
Revenue
$836,392,915
Expenses
$837,556,549
Net Income
-$1,163,634
I suppose somebody might have an interest in looking into a rise in grant money for ethnic Tibetans in China.
It does look like a good 'non-profit' to 'work' for if you're wanting to work in a non-governmental organization funded primarily by the government.
(https://i.ibb.co/PvZt28JY/Screenshot-20250204-120958-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/Nd670zf3)
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If an oversight committee didn't get the information they need, seems like we should be firing a few members of the oversight committee. Can we start with Jim Jordan?
The information they need is available on the Internet.
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Should Putin's mental states govern NATO's policies in Eastern Europe?
Mexico and Canada, our close allies and trade partners, are pissed off at Trump right now. I bet he doesn't give a shit.
While they are unlikely to attack overtly soon ...
Knowledge of Putin’s mental state is manufactured. You literally have no way of knowing. We do know what he’s been saying for a few decades now, though.
Mexico and Canada need us way more than we need them. It’s been funny watching democrats cheer for Columbia/Canada/Mexico’s weak little shows of defiance before totally acquiescing to our reasonable demands. The only reason they’re mad is because they’re actually being publicly held accountable for shit they should have been held accountable for a long time ago. And the fact that they’re publicly embarrassed. Trudeau is a weak, ineffectual WEF puppet. Canada has been a pipeline of fake students migrating there and disappearing into the US, including a bunch of people on terrorist watch lists. Something has to give.
I understand that you want all diplomacy to be handled with kid gloves, but we just got done doing that for four years and all we’ve seen as a result is the worst geopolitical instability in quite some time. Countries take advantage of us in a variety of ways, but the world needs a strong US and peacemakers, not hand wringing and feebly asking antagonist countries to be nice.
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It looks like Trump just went through a bunch of drama to get the same agreement Canada agreed to in December.
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Committees with oversight not getting the information they need to provide ovesight is a problem.
What was your point in posting screen shots of cherry picked documents with absolutely no context?
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It looks like Trump just went through a bunch of drama to get the same agreement Canada agreed to in December.
I noticed that is the current favorite meme of the moment, haven’t had a chance to dig into it more. He definitely wanted to publicly embarrass Trudeau. I thought his policies during Covid were outright fascist.
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The information they need is available on the Internet.
dude these are Republicans
1) They don't work
2) If they wanted to work, they are too dumb to use the internet
3) If they could use the internet, they'd use it for porn.
4) Gay porn.
5) If not porn, they'd find something counter to their narrative
6) They'd call that fake news
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Mexico and Canada need us way more than we need them.
I always knew you drank fake tequila and "Maple" syrup made from HFCS
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What was your point in posting screen shots of cherry picked documents with absolutely no context?
Shitposting. We've been through this many times.
"It hurts when I do that". "Then don't do that"
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He definitely wanted to publicly embarrass Trudeau.
What former leader is he going after next? Pierre Trudeau? Merkel? Thatcher? Maybe Churchill? Certainly not Chamberlain, Chamberlain is a favorite of Trump.
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"Musk also defended his team's actions at Treasury by saying, "The @DOGE team discovered, among other things, that payment approval officers at Treasury were instructed always to approve payments, even to known fraudulent or terrorist groups. They literally never denied a payment in their entire career. Not even once."
A Democratic staff official on the Senate Finance Committee told USA TODAY on Monday that Musk's comment suggests a fundamental misunderstanding of how the process works. The system, he said on the condition of anonymity, is basically the U.S. government's checkbook for payments already approved by Congress. To find waste, fraud and abuse, the staffer said, Musk would need to go to the agencies that are actually spending the money."
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/02/03/dems-elon-musk-doge-takeover-treasury/78187978007/
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What former leader is he going after next? Pierre Trudeau? Merkel? Thatcher? Maybe Churchill? Certainly not Chamberlain, Chamberlain is a favorite of Trump.
He is going to destroy Lincoln.
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Mexico and Canada need us way more than we need them.
If a trade war erupts with Canada, Americans will feel the pain through higher prices on things like fertilizers, petroleum, lumber, electricity, and paper products. Canada will also retaliate with a set of targeted tariffs on U.S. products. Perhaps the biggest club in their toolbox is the energy “nuclear” option, whereby Canada cuts crude oil and electricity exports to the Northeast and Midwest.
We are no longer the nation that largely feeds itself or produces what it uses. Corporations changed all that, chasing lower wages and operating costs. We are now fully integrated into the world economy and Americans will find out the hard way that we need the rest of the world as much as they need us.
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If a trade war erupts with Canada, Americans will feel the pain through higher prices on things like fertilizers, petroleum, lumber, electricity, and paper products. Canada will also retaliate with a set of targeted tariffs on U.S. products. Perhaps the biggest club in their toolbox is the energy “nuclear” option, whereby Canada cuts crude oil and electricity exports to the Northeast and Midwest.
We are no longer the nation that largely feeds itself or produces what it uses. Corporations changed all that, chasing lower wages and operating costs. We are now fully integrated into the world economy and Americans will find out the hard way that we need the rest of the world as much as they need us.
We now consistently have a better u20 national hockey team so the Canucks can suck it! We shall show them in the 4 Nations tourney that our US NHL pros are better than theirs too to complete the humiliation of Canada! USA! USA! USA!
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We now consistently have a better u20 national hockey team so the Canucks can suck it! We shall show them in the 4 Nations tourney that our US NHL pros are better than theirs too to complete the humiliation of Canada! USA! USA! USA!
Hockey - Canada's Soccer. WGAFF
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Hockey - Canada's Soccer. WGAFF
The Soviets do because they have been shut out of all international competitions!
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If a trade war erupts with Canada, Americans will feel the pain through higher prices on things like fertilizers, petroleum, lumber, electricity, and paper products. Canada will also retaliate with a set of targeted tariffs on U.S. products. Perhaps the biggest club in their toolbox is the energy “nuclear” option, whereby Canada cuts crude oil and electricity exports to the Northeast and Midwest.
We are no longer the nation that largely feeds itself or produces what it uses. Corporations changed all that, chasing lower wages and operating costs. We are now fully integrated into the world economy and Americans will find out the hard way that we need the rest of the world as much as they need us.
We absolutely feed ourselves and produce a lot of what we use. Blame the corporations all you want—and you will because you’re a lefty—but shitty trade agreements, greedy unions and overregulation also had a LOT to do with outsourcing.
Corporations work within a framework and will seek to provide a good at the lowest cost of production. Instead of protecting American labor we literally priced ourselves out of millions of decent to good blue collar jobs and moved them overseas.
What’s the carbon footprint on shipping cheap shit from China (where they have little pollution regulation) on giant ships?
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We absolutely feed ourselves and produce a lot of what we use. Blame the corporations all you want—and you will because you’re a lefty—but shitty trade agreements, greedy unions and overregulation also had a LOT to do with outsourcing.
Corporations work within a framework and will seek to provide a good at the lowest cost of production. Instead of protecting America labor we literally priced ourselves out of millions of decent to good blue collar jobs and moved them overseas.
What’s the carbon footprint on shipping cheap shit from China (where they have little pollution regulation) on giant ships?
We can manufacture Cheetos until the end of days.
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We absolutely feed ourselves and produce a lot of what we use. Blame the corporations all you want—and you will because you’re a lefty—but shitty trade agreements, greedy unions and overregulation also had a LOT to do with outsourcing.
Corporations work within a framework and will seek to provide a good at the lowest cost of production. Instead of protecting America labor we literally priced ourselves out of millions of decent to good blue collar jobs and moved them overseas.
What’s the carbon footprint on shipping cheap shit from China (where they have little pollution regulation) on giant ships?
Where did you get your talking points? The mouthpieces at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce?
"Shitty" free trade agreements? You mean the trade agreement that Trump negotiated with Canada and Mexico in 2020? Or that "historical trade deal" with China that he worked out with his "very, very good friend" President Xi.
And we aren’t feeding ourselves. The U.S. is focused on growing and exporting low-value corn and soybeans, primarily to he used for livestock feed, ethanol, sugars, starches and oil. We have a system where large amounts of fresh produce have to be imported from other countries instead of growing it on American soil. Over the last two decades, the percentage of U.S. fruit and vegetable supply that is imported has surged, particularly for tomatoes, cucumbers, and bell peppers. Fruits and vegetables are higher-value products than the corn and soybeans the U.S. food and farm system currently prioritizes. We need to change our domestic system to support a transition from corn-soy rotation to vegetables. I don't expect that to happen under Trump.
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Where did you get your talking points? The mouthpieces at the U.S. Chamber of Commerce?
"Shitty" free trade agreements? You mean the trade agreement that Trump negotiated with Canada and Mexico in 2020? Or that "historical trade deal" with China that he worked out with his "very, very good friend" President Xi.
And we aren’t feeding ourselves. The U.S. is focused on growing and exporting low-value corn and soybeans, primarily to he used for livestock feed, ethanol, sugars, starches and oil. We have a system where large amounts of fresh produce have to be imported from other countries instead of growing it on American soil. Over the last two decades, the percentage of U.S. fruit and vegetable supply that is imported has surged, particularly for tomatoes, cucumbers, and bell peppers. Fruits and vegetables are higher-value products than the corn and soybeans the U.S. food and farm system currently prioritizes. We need to change our domestic system to support a transition from corn-soy rotation to vegetables. I don't expect that to happen under Trump.
NAFTA?!?!
We only import around 15% of our food, and very little we can’t live without. We import mostly stuff we either can’t grow here, or specialty/ethnic foods from other nations. Some things can be grown cheaper elsewhere and imported—sometimes due to regulations here.
As I literally argued the other day, give farmers the financial incentive to diversify, and they will. Problem for vegetables is they don’t currently have the equipment or the irrigation, and it’s super labor intensive, the agronomy is entirely different, and there are regulations here that don’t exist in other places.
Meanwhile, those other places are already equipped to grow those things, so it makes no sense to reengineer it here, and we’d have to literally import their workforce to do it here. There are other crops like chickpeas and other sources of plant protein that midwestern row crop farmers could successfully grow without expensive wholesale changes to their operations.
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Has very little to do with NATO?
He’s only been openly griping about it for decades and the growing influence of the west (US and other NATO countries, including the overthrow of their democratically elected government) in Ukraine over the last 10+ years pushed everything to the brink. Did you think he was going to let the west pull Ukraine into NATO without a fight? He’d be insane to.
I know Ray is a big Cato guy, not sure if it holds any water with you. Can you imagine if Putin was doing this on our border?
https://www.cato.org/commentary/washington-helped-trigger-ukraine-war
OK, Neville Chamberlain. I’m sorry, but you have to be morally bankrupt to think authoritarian Putin is "the adult" in the room.
His imperial ambitions to expand Russia drove Ukraine towards NATO. See also Finland and Sweden. Putin now compares his place in history to that of Peter the Great.
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We absolutely feed ourselves and produce a lot of what we use. Blame the corporations all you want—and you will because you’re a lefty—but shitty trade agreements, greedy unions and overregulation also had a LOT to do with outsourcing.
Tell me you don't drink coffee or eat chocolate without telling me you don't drink coffee or eat chocolate
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Problem for vegetables is they don’t currently have the equipment or the irrigation, and it’s super labor intensive, the agronomy is entirely different, and there are regulations here that don’t exist in other places.
Meanwhile, those other places are already equipped to grow those things, so it makes no sense to reengineer it here, and we’d have to literally import their workforce to do it here.
Someone on this board told me that the illegals weren't picking our crops
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OK, Neville Chamberlain. I’m sorry, but you have to be morally bankrupt to think authoritarian Putin is "the adult" in the room.
His imperial ambitions to expand Russia drove Ukraine towards NATO. See also Finland and Sweden. Putin now compares his place in history to that of Peter the Great.
Custard - #1 shitposter and Cheese eating surrender monkey
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They still grow vegetables in Eastern Kankakee County.
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They still grow vegetables in Eastern Kankakee County.
I personally know most of those farmers. They, and the pockets of commercial vegetable growers in the sand prairie area of Morton/Pekin, river valley of Vincennes IN, or the central sands of Wisconsin, never exited the business and thus still have the necessary equipment and knowledge to produce. They also have another thing in common—extremely sandy soil that is heavily irrigated. Many vegetables can’t handle saturated soils and have relatively little disease tolerance so they must be grown in soils that drain and can be watered on demand. Most commercial squashes and melons etc get sprayed with a lot of chemicals too.
I’m all for diversifying crop production in the US, but certain regions evolved to grow certain things for a reason. Wisconsin used to be the biggest of producer of wheat in the US and now grows very little. Much livestock has left the eastern corn belt and relocated further west where dryer conditions and cheaper land make feeding stock easier and more profitable. Poultry and hog production has grown in the mid Atlantic region the last couple of decades because the weather is milder.
The focus should be to eliminate the ethanol subsidy and get away from growing so much corn. What do we replace it with and how do we create a market big enough to make a relatively smooth transition that doesn’t put half the farms out of business?
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The focus should be to eliminate the ethanol subsidy and get away from growing so much corn. What do we replace it with and how do we create a market big enough to make a relatively smooth transition that doesn’t put half the farms out of business?
windmills
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"Top People"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/doge-staffer-jumps-ship-after-pro-eugenics-posts-surface/
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"Top People"
https://www.thedailybeast.com/doge-staffer-jumps-ship-after-pro-eugenics-posts-surface/
Don't say the silent part out loud. If he had been up for a cabinet position this would not have been disqualifying. Concerning maybe. Maybe.
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Don't say the silent part out loud. If he had been up for a cabinet position this would not have been disqualifying. Concerning maybe. Maybe.
Maybe if you are a brogrammer and want to have a career in Silicon Valley, posting a bunch of racist shit about Indians might not be the best plan. I can just imagine how this guys interview loops will go.
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https://www.mediaite.com/news/elon-musk-demands-firing-of-disgusting-and-cruel-wsj-reporter-who-uncovered-doge-employees-racist-tweets/
Free Speech!
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Musk, who as head of the Department of Government Efficiency has consolidated control over much of the federal government and is working to cut costs and shrink the workforce, posted on X that his team “just discovered that FEMA sent $59M LAST WEEK to luxury hotels in New York City to house illegal migrants.” He said the money is intended for disaster relief and would be clawed back.
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Elon Musk inaccurately accused FEMA on Monday of violating federal law by helping migrants.
New York officials denied Elon Musk’s misleading accusation that millions of dollars in federal disaster funds had gone to “luxury hotels in New York City to house illegal migrants.”
Musk accused the Federal Emergency Management Agency on Monday of using $59 million in disaster funds to house undocumented migrants in New York hotels in an inaccurate post on the social media site X.
Musk gave no evidence to support his claim, and information from the city of New York indicated that money it's received to care for migrants was appropriated by Congress and allocated to the city last year by FEMA.
The city hasn't been notified of any pause in funding, spokeswoman Liz Garcia said. A statement noted that the city has received federal government reimbursements through the past week and said the matter would be discussed directly with federal officials.
Neither Hamilton nor Musk specified what kind of payments were involved. But the comments on X — reposted thousands of times — likely referred to payments made by the Shelter and Services Program, which gives money to reimburse cities, towns or organizations for immigration-related expenses.
FEMA did not respond to questions about the payments. But spokesman Trisha McLaughlin for the Department of Homeland Security — to which FEMA belongs — pointed to recent statements by Secretary Kristi Noem.
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So the FEMA money WAS authorized to help illegals. Thanks for clearing that up. Let’s go ahead and gut that then, too.
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So the FEMA money WAS authorized to help illegals. Thanks for clearing that up. Let’s go ahead and gut that then, too.
"The Shelter and Services Program (SSP), as directed by Congress in the Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2023, is administered by FEMA in partnership with U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP).'
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Judge Engelmayer: the Treasury Secretary has no right of access to the materials of the office.
Judge Berman-Jackson: the SC shall not be denied access to the materials of the office.
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It happens when you start a food fight. Consistent, non-erratic behavior, doesn't seem to fit the coup norms.
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Now do Catholic Charities
"Regarding Catholic Charities specifically, we are not talking about a small amount of money that has been received by this organization and these bishops. Today, about two thirds of Catholic Charities’ annual spending comes from government sources, which totals more than half a billion dollars of federal grants alone."
"However, it is a fact that bringing illegal foreign nationals to the country and the attempts to resettle them while sidestepping immigration law has brought great sums of money into the hands of these many bishops who now protest so loudly, and who are in reality present-day Judases who stand with outstretched hands for the thirty pieces of silver.
https://cforc.com/2025/01/usccb-the-bishops-and-federal-funding/
Charity is using one's own money. Not somebody else's money.
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"Regarding Catholic Charities specifically, we are not talking about a small amount of money that has been received by this organization and these bishops. Today, about two thirds of Catholic Charities’ annual spending comes from government sources, which totals more than half a billion dollars of federal grants alone."
"However, it is a fact that bringing illegal foreign nationals to the country and the attempts to resettle them while sidestepping immigration law has brought great sums of money into the hands of these many bishops who now protest so loudly, and who are in reality present-day Judases who stand with outstretched hands for the thirty pieces of silver.
https://cforc.com/2025/01/usccb-the-bishops-and-federal-funding/
Charity is using one's own money. Not somebody else's money.
I trust the Convicts more than the Catholics.
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Any facts that get in the way of Trump's agenda are declared fake news.
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/02/sorting-out-the-facts-on-waste-and-abuse-at-usaid/
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I remember when Republicans promoted faith based groups.
What does government sources mean?
"Grant Funding received from federal, state, and city government agencies to support the provision of key services"
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Republicans in 2001 pushed the faith based initiative. Republicans in 2025 view the faith based initiative as corrupt.
Just like they were leading the charge for the child credit and the earned income credit before they were against them.
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Republicans in 2001 pushed the faith based initiative. Republicans in 2025 view the faith based initiative as corrupt.
Just like they were leading the charge for the child credit and the earned income credit before they were against them.
Maybe they changed their minds and want to stop giving money to the hocus pocus dominocus people?
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Maybe they changed their minds and want to stop giving money to the hocus pocus dominocus people?
They never did, but they wanted their votes. Now they don't need their votes anymore
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Any facts that get in the way of Trump's agenda are declared fake news.
https://www.factcheck.org/2025/02/sorting-out-the-facts-on-waste-and-abuse-at-usaid/
There is so much, it is hard to keep up. This fact check pretty much destroys the attack on USAID.
"A ‘Transgender Opera’ in Colombia?
On April 28, 2022, the University of the Andes in Bogotá, Colombia, put on a performance of the opera “As One.” The show, which was written in the U.S. and debuted in 2014, features a transgender protagonist.
A program for the university’s production of the opera said the show had the support of the university, the Bogotá Philharmonic Orchestra and the “Small Grants Program of the Embassy of the United States in Colombia.”
The Department of State committed $25,000 to fund the project, and the website USAspending.gov also noted that there was $22,020 of “non-federal funding” for the project, making a total of $47,020 listed on the site. The federal funding for this project also came from the State Department, not USAID."
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There is so much, it is hard to keep up. This fact check pretty much destroys the attack on USAID.
"A ‘Transgender Opera’ in Colombia?
On April 28, 2022, the University of the Andes in Bogotá, Colombia, put on a performance of the opera “As One.” The show, which was written in the U.S. and debuted in 2014, features a transgender protagonist.
A program for the university’s production of the opera said the show had the support of the university, the Bogotá Philharmonic Orchestra and the “Small Grants Program of the Embassy of the United States in Colombia.”
The Department of State committed $25,000 to fund the project, and the website USAspending.gov also noted that there was $22,020 of “non-federal funding” for the project, making a total of $47,020 listed on the site. The federal funding for this project also came from the State Department, not USAID."
So we did in fact fund 47k on transgender propaganda in Columbia. Dismantle the State Dept while we’re at it.
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It's a battle of POTUS executive orders vs ex-POTUS executive orders and it's in the courts.
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On Monday, Trump issued an executive order terminating "illegal DEI and 'diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility' (DEIA) mandates, policies, programs, preferences, and activities in the Federal Government, under whatever name they appear."
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/23/nx-s1-5271588/trump-dei-diversity-equity-inclusion-federal-workers-government
The embassy in Colombia placed DEI as a "priority program area".
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https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1889731941521564098
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We have a bunch of grifters running the country. Good job farmers and Dearborn, MI!
https://www.dropsitenews.com/p/elon-musk-armored-tesla-forecast-400-million-state-department-contracts
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"The acquisition plan was set in motion by the Biden administration last year as part of a move to convert the Bureau of Diplomatic Security’s fleet of roughly 3,000 armored vehicles into zero-emission electric vehicles by 2035."
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"The acquisition plan was set in motion by the Biden administration last year as part of a move to convert the Bureau of Diplomatic Security’s fleet of roughly 3,000 armored vehicles into zero-emission electric vehicles by 2035."
Sure it was....which is why they didn't list Tesla. Rivian has to be pissed!
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Sure it was....which is why they didn't list Tesla. Rivian has to be pissed!
"According to the State Department, only a single company responded to last year’s request for information—presumably Tesla—"
Lol
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"According to the State Department, only a single company responded to last year’s request for information—presumably Tesla—"
Lol
Sounds like a waste of money that DOGE should be stopping!
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Sounds like a waste of money that DOGE should be stopping!
"According to the State Department ... there are currently no plans for the award to continue.
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https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1889731941521564098
If it sounds too weird to be true; it's likely fake news.
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On Monday, Trump issued an executive order terminating "illegal DEI and 'diversity, equity, inclusion, and accessibility' (DEIA) mandates, policies, programs, preferences, and activities in the Federal Government, under whatever name they appear."
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/23/nx-s1-5271588/trump-dei-diversity-equity-inclusion-federal-workers-government
Accessibility includes things like curb slopes/cuts that able people use.
A lot that was originally part of the ADA passed by President George H. W. Bush.
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"According to the State Department ... there are currently no plans for the award to continue.
"Currently"...as in right this second... but tomorrow is another day.
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US Defense Department contract 'inaccurately represented' on social media, says Thomson Reuters
"Thomson Reuters issued its statement after Tesla CEO Musk, opens new tab, Trump,, opens new tab the Hungarian government and Russian state media accused the company on social media of being paid by the U.S. government to play a role in "large scale social deception."'
'The contract in question was a four-year, $9 million award, beginning in 2018 during Trump's first term and ending in 2022, between the U.S. Department of Defense and a division of the Toronto-based content and technology company called Thomson Reuters Special Services (TRSS). The contract was intended to protect the U.S. government from social engineering, which is a form of cyber threat in which people are tricked into divulging sensitive information."
Spokesperson Tabatha Thompson of the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, or DARPA, opens new tab, the research and development arm of the U.S. military, which funded the contract, said, "Thomson Reuters Special Services (TRSS) was competitively selected to serve as the evaluator to test the defensive tools. ... They (Thomson Reuters) assessed the effectiveness of our defensive tools."
Trump demanded that Reuters repay the U.S. government in a Truth Social post on Thursday morning: "DOGE: Looks like Radical Left Reuters was paid $9,000,000 by the Department of Defense to study 'large scale social deception.' GIVE BACK THE MONEY, NOW!"
https://tinyurl.com/57dprv8j
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The level of incompetence is stunning..
After 'accidentally' firing nuclear safety experts, they are trying to reinstate them. Trouble is, they can't find their contact information..
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some dude at swim practice today, the subject of Musk came up, and he goes into a rant about how Musk and Trump are getting rid of the crooks, in the end they'll both be up on Mt Rushmore...
I said "well, clearly we have some differentials on policy here, but Rushmore currently has the Father of our Country, the guy who wrote the Declaration of Independence, and the guy who shepherded the Country through the Civil War. Teddy Roosevelt is a bit of a puzzling choice, but what you're saying is like saying Tim Tebow belongs in the Hall of Fame because he won that one playoff game that one time"
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Forbes Breaking News doing some good work combatting left wing disinformation about efforts to curb wasteful spending.
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Forbes Breaking News doing some good work combatting left wing disinformation about efforts to curb wasteful spending.
You mean are they not gonna waste any money on this bullshit?
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/nation-world/8-people-die-in-kentucky-as-flooding-impacts-state-other-severe-weather-hits-across-the-nation/291-bf524575-0b82-4ff6-89ba-8f4d9800712e
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You mean are they not gonna waste any money on this bullshit?
https://www.13newsnow.com/video/news/nation-world/8-people-die-in-kentucky-as-flooding-impacts-state-other-severe-weather-hits-across-the-nation/291-bf524575-0b82-4ff6-89ba-8f4d9800712e
Yeah they knocked it out of the park in NC a few months ago.
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Forbes Breaking News doing some good work combatting left wing disinformation about efforts to curb wasteful spending.
Head in sand.
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Yeah they knocked it out of the park in NC a few months ago.
They needed the money to house illegal immigrants.
Noem clawed some of it back...100 million from NYC. They were using it to house murderers, rapists, terrorists, and juvenile delinquents in luxury hotels.
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Forbes Breaking News doing some good work combatting left wing disinformation about efforts to curb wasteful spending.
This pretty much confirms every thing I have read.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/02/17/trump-administration-reportedly-unfires-staffers-in-nuclear-security-indian-health-service-heres-what-we-know/
Utter incompetence. Elmo bulldozing vital services. Trump is clueless. Efforts underway to undo some of Elmo's damage.
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U of I soybean lab’s pending closure due to USAID cuts hinders global disease research
https://capitolnewsillinois.com/news/u-of-i-soybean-labs-pending-closure-due-to-usaid-cuts-hinders-global-disease-research/
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If you’re gonna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs.
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If you’re gonna make an omelet, you gotta break some eggs.
Many can't afford the eggs apparently....
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Many can't afford the eggs apparently....
That's because Joe Biden killed millions of chickens with FEMA money intended for disaster relief in NC.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DguO5G3HIac&t=1s
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Ready, shoot and then aim. And don't even be legal while doing so.
Not sure, but fairly confident that most citizens didn't ask for this cluster. All hail the King!
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I’m sure the left wing media of your choice is totally giving it a fair shake and isn’t cherry picking the news at all to manufacture maximum outrage.
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Been traveling. Did something happen other than a Delta flight flipping over in Toronto ?
Did Russia do something, according to anonymous sources, like a "minor incursion" into Ukraine or Hamas murder Israelis and take hostages, including Americans ?
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Been traveling. Did something happen other than a Delta flight flipping over in Toronto ?
Did Russia do something, according to anonymous sources, like a "minor incursion" into Ukraine or Hamas murder Israelis and take hostages, including Americans ?
Nothing, except turning the clock back to the Harding administration.
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Nothing, except turning the clock back to the Harding administration.
They’re doing what the people elected them to do. I guess people didn’t think they were going to follow through, and now Democrats are up in arms about losing their cushy stay-at-home government jobs studying the migration patterns of transsexual sea turtles in the South Pacific.
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They’re doing what the people elected them to do. I guess people didn’t think they were going to follow through, and now Democrats are up in arms about losing their cushy stay-at-home government jobs studying the migration patterns of transsexual sea turtles in the South Pacific.
They were elected to lower grocery prices. And yeah, I didn't think he could do it. And yeah, people are pissed.
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They’re doing what the people elected them to do. I guess people didn’t think they were going to follow through, and now Democrats are up in arms about losing their cushy stay-at-home government jobs studying the migration patterns of transsexual sea turtles in the South Pacific.
Not sure the "people" elected them to break laws while doing so. Reagan and Clinton reduced the workforce but did it legally. None of these fucktards could pass a low level security clearance. Guess that's OK, so go ahead and look at everyone's PII. That'll sure reduce the deficit to everyone's benefit. Really?
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They were elected to lower grocery prices.
Oh bullshit
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Not sure the "people" elected them to break laws while doing so. Reagan and Clinton reduced the workforce but did it legally. None of these fucktards could pass a low level security clearance. Guess that's OK, so go ahead and look at everyone's PII. That'll sure reduce the deficit to everyone's benefit. Really?
Elon Musk is the most successful man in the world. Possibly in the history of mankind. I trust him and the people he hires exponentially more than I do a bunch of incompetent paper shuffling bureaucrats and the self-serving politicians that put them there. The federal government as it has been existing is objectively unsustainable.
Someone had to come in and do things swiftly and decisively. You can’t sit around and let all the agencies that are dependent on the wholesale grifting of taxpayer dollars take their sweet time to set up defenses and obfuscation.
I’m not convinced laws are being broken, and if you’re upset that this administration is doing what they said they were going to do, that’s wholly on the flaming dumpster fire of an election cycle by the Democrat party that funded most of this enormously unpopular shit to begin with.
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Are any of the EDS/TDS folks here paying any attention to the big picture or just focusing on the hit pieces that confirm their biases?
(That’s a rhetorical question btw)
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Warren Buffet says "Hold my Blizzard"
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I’m sure the left wing media of your choice is totally giving it a fair shake and isn’t cherry picking the news at all to manufacture maximum outrage.
There is no need to cherry pick anything. They can't even keep up with the horse shit..
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Only 4% of the federal workforce was showing up for work. Fact check that..
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Oh bullshit
let the spin begin
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Elon Musk is the richest (fixed) man in the world. Possibly in the history of mankind. I trust him and the people he hires exponentially more than I do a bunch of incompetent paper shuffling bureaucrats and the self-serving politicians that put them there.
He likes Big Balls, and he cannot lie.
Jensen Huang is far more successful than Musk. Tesla Market Cap - 1.2 Trillion. Nvidia Market Cap 3 Trillion. And Jensen actually built the company, from scratch.
Well, I guess Jensen actually gives his employees a lot of equity and Musk gives himself a lot of equity. Which - is why Nvidia is a 3 trillion dollar company and rising, and Tesla is 1.2 Trillion and falling.
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It's gonna be a wild ride. Aside from these guys driving up inflation, they will be explicitly driving up unemployment. I guess it might be a feature and not a bug that the private sector will not be able to soak up all the employees? Maybe we can hire some air traffic controllers to pick crops.
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Rhetorical answer is the separation of powers..
Gore downsized government and nobody was screaming. Part of was he hadn't invented the Internet yet. A big part was he used a scalpel whereas Elmo is using a butcher knife.
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Custard totally wants to throat Elon. Elon will not be thought of well historically. Looking forward to seeing how this flames out spectacularly.
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Custard totally wants to throat Elon. Elon will not be thought of well historically. Looking forward to seeing how this flames out spectacularly.
he wants to throat BigBalls
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let the spin begin
I see you are still in denial believing the whole election outcome was about the price of eggs.
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Rhetorical answer is the separation of powers..
Gore downsized government and nobody was screaming. Part of was he hadn't invented the Internet yet. A big part was he used a scalpel whereas Elmo is using a butcher knife.
If no one was screaming, it wasn’t much of a cut. And let’s be honest, there is screaming about every single fucking thing Trump does because people cannot control their emotions due to TDS. It is real.
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If no one was screaming, it wasn’t much of a cut. And let’s be honest, there is screaming about every single fucking thing Trump does because people cannot control their emotions due to TDS. It is real.
You can hear those screams of people in Kentucky and Tennessee begging for FEMA money. They should find their goddamn bootstraps instead of begging from California
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He likes Big Balls, and he cannot lie.
This kid big balls probably can't tie his own shoes.
What we get into here is a really sad human condition. People who think they can get along fine without things X/Y/Z that they think are "wasteful", but if really put into a position where they'd need to take care of themselves, they'd be dead in a day. If Elon Musk were on the LOST island, he'd be dead in a day, either through incompetence or at the hands of the other castaways.
All these things that "just work", when they stop working... I mean Custard can cook a mean meal on the grill, so he doesn't need a restaurant, but he's not going out and hunting wild boar with bullets that he packed himself with gunpowder that he crafted himself, cleaning the boar, stuffing the sausages, curing them.
My cousin can do a pretty mean job of butchering an elk. But he can't forge his own knives, and if his water stopped running it would be a pretty big mess. And he'd be eating a lot of elk jerky if his freezer wasn't running, of course he makes jerky himself in a dehydrator, and uses salt that he gets from the grocery store, etc...
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Rhetorical answer is the separation of powers..
Gore downsized government and nobody was screaming. Part of was he hadn't invented the Internet yet. A big part was he used a scalpel whereas Elmo is using a butcher knife.
Eliminating or modifying programs through traditional legislative means would require the Republican clownshow in Congress to get its act together and make an attempt to govern. That isn’t happening anytime soon. So, they need an unaccountable extra-government organization to do the work for them.
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This kid big balls probably can't tie his own shoes.
What we get into here is a really sad human condition. People who think they can get along fine without things X/Y/Z that they think are "wasteful", but if really put into a position where they'd need to take care of themselves, they'd be dead in a day. If Elon Musk were on the LOST island, he'd be dead in a day, either through incompetence or at the hands of the other castaways.
All these things that "just work", when they stop working... I mean Custard can cook a mean meal on the grill, so he doesn't need a restaurant, but he's not going out and hunting wild boar with bullets that he packed himself with gunpowder that he crafted himself, cleaning the boar, stuffing the sausages, curing them.
My cousin can do a pretty mean job of butchering an elk. But he can't forge his own knives, and if his water stopped running it would be a pretty big mess. And he'd be eating a lot of elk jerky if his freezer wasn't running, of course he makes jerky himself in a dehydrator, and uses salt that he gets from the grocery store, etc...
This is just deflection. Clearly there is plenty of WFA in government. I believe we could cut a huge chuck of federal government redundancy and fraud and waste without causing problems getting bullets or salt. If it did cause problems, it would be very short-lived. People traded salt and gunpowder long before bureaucracy was even a thing.
But more importantly, I think you should know that I did cure and stuff the sausages myself!
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Eliminating or modifying programs through traditional legislative means would require the Republican clownshow in Congress to get its act together and make an attempt to govern. That isn’t happening anytime soon. So, they need an unaccountable extra-government organization to do the work for them.
The Republicans in Congress would gladly get rid of this shit. You know as well as I do that it’s the Democrats that would do everything in their power to try and muck it up because no one benefits more from bloated bureaucracy than they do. They’re just mad because they got caught red-handed—OF COURSE they’re squealing!
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This is just deflection. Clearly there is plenty of WFA in government. I believe we could cut a huge chuck of federal government redundancy and fraud and waste without causing problems getting bullets or salt. If it did cause problems, it would be very short-lived. People traded salt and gunpowder long before bureaucracy was even a thing.
But more importantly, I think you should know that I did cure and stuff the sausages myself!
People traded salt and gunpowder back before Morton and Ruger were mass producing it.
How much of the materials that you used to cure and stuff the sausages did you purchase or did you hunt it all and "trade for" with something that wasn't US dollars?
I bitch about random dumb government shit all the time. But the current status of the US compared to say, Uganda, is a pretty clear indicator that we did get a good return on our investment. If you had a choice - pay these tax dollars and get the services you get, or pay no tax dollars and get none of those services, you'd choose the former.
And at this point, it's just anarchy, you're gonna need those bullets. Who you gonna call when something goes sideways? The cops? What the hell are they gonna do, arrest you and send you to court? All the judges are quitting. You grill steaks, haven't heard you're raising beef. Would be a damn shame if the meat company decided to save a few dollars on meat processing safety given there are no inspectors. Refridgeration is overrated. Then again if you get e-coli you can use your non-existent medicare at the doctor - I hear his name is "Big Balls"
It's really funny how seriously we took this in 2017.
At least you'll be able to hunt at National parks without fear of arrest.
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Yes, firing the guys working at the nuclear reactors and on stopping The Bird Flu is genius on their part.
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The Republicans in Congress would gladly get rid of this shit. You know as well as I do that it’s the Democrats that would do everything in their power to try and muck it up because no one benefits more from bloated bureaucracy than they do. They’re just mad because they got caught red-handed—OF COURSE they’re squealing!
Some Republicans in Congress would gladly get rid of this shit.
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You allegedly would have to take a dump outside at the national parks as they fired everyone. Reservation service was allegedly even turned off. For all we know Trump had Old Faithfull drained....
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Some Republicans in Congress would gladly get rid of this shit.
Katie Britt apparently isn't one of them....
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People traded salt and gunpowder back before Morton and Ruger were mass producing it.
How much of the materials that you used to cure and stuff the sausages did you purchase or did you hunt it all and "trade for" with something that wasn't US dollars?
I bitch about random dumb government shit all the time. But the current status of the US compared to say, Uganda, is a pretty clear indicator that we did get a good return on our investment. If you had a choice - pay these tax dollars and get the services you get, or pay no tax dollars and get none of those services, you'd choose the former.
And at this point, it's just anarchy, you're gonna need those bullets. Who you gonna call when something goes sideways? The cops? What the hell are they gonna do, arrest you and send you to court? All the judges are quitting. You grill steaks, haven't heard you're raising beef. Would be a damn shame if the meat company decided to save a few dollars on meat processing safety given there are no inspectors. Refridgeration is overrated. Then again if you get e-coli you can use your non-existent medicare at the doctor - I hear his name is "Big Balls"
It's really funny how seriously we took this in 2017.
At least you'll be able to hunt at National parks without fear of arrest.
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Slashing bureaucracy will halt trade. JFC you can’t make this shit up!
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We are going to find out it appears.....may want to buy cows now.
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We are going to find out it appears.....may want to buy cows now.
I’ve had cows all my life.
Lots of people hate Trump and what he’s doing to the bureaucracy—especially the weak soft euros and Canadian pussies.
But at the end of the day it’s about those Benjamins baby.
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But at the end of the day it’s about those Benjamins baby.
May need a lot of those too if inflation keeps going up.....
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I’ve had cows all my life.
Do you give them antibiotics? Buy any feed?
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May need a lot of those too if inflation keeps going up.....
if inflation goes up he'll be able to trade one of his cows for salt and gunpowder!
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But at the end of the day it’s about those Benjamins baby.
Benjamin Franklin was a weak ass pussy
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If no one was screaming, it wasn’t much of a cut. And let’s be honest, there is screaming about every single fucking thing Trump does because people cannot control their emotions due to TDS. It is real.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/clinton-trump-federal-workers/
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. They’re just mad because they got caught red-handed—OF COURSE they’re squealing!
got caught doing their jobs
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got caught doing their jobs
Got caught using taxpayer money for wildly unpopular radical left wing nonsense and lining their own pockets
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President Biden has overseen a nearly 6% growth of the full-time, non-seasonal federal workforce during his four years in office, including a jump at nearly every major agency.
the Food and Drug Administration, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the National Institutes of Health. Those agencies saw their workforces grow by 13%, 26% and 34%, respectively, under Biden.
Trump has already announced his intent to replace current Commissioner Danny Werfel, who still has multiple years left on his term. Werfel has warned IRS will have to freeze hiring and lay employees off if it does not continue receiving boosted funds.
The U.S. Agency for International Development saw the largest workforce spike, benefiting from the record-setting Foreign Service classes that also helped State grow.
https://www.govexec.com/workforce/2025/01/see-where-and-how-biden-grew-federal-workforce/401945/
Any complaints about job cuts can go to the Biden Learn to Program department, which apparently relied on a philosophy of 'you're on your own'.
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Beating the Bird Flu is radical left wing nonsense. We learn a lot here!
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Planes not hitting each other or the ground, on the other hand, I do believe is left wing nonsense.
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PAMan rising quickly to take the funding hysteria bait!
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Planes not hitting each other or the ground, on the other hand, I do believe is left wing nonsense.
The plane hit ground in Canada and I believe it was the right wing.
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Beating the Bird Flu is radical left wing nonsense. We learn a lot here!
I had the H1N1. A while back. Me and my kids had it. It sucked big time.
My wife somehow didn't get it, she just had to deal with us lol
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Planes not hitting each other or the ground, on the other hand, I do believe is left wing nonsense.
Brought to you by Endeavor Air, the Delta subsidiary operating the flight to Toronto.
https://x.com/i/status/1892210949819355461
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Got caught using taxpayer money for wildly unpopular radical left wing nonsense and lining their own pockets
Indeed. Now we have right wing plane crashes as god intended. Because if god intended man to fly he would have given us wings.
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The plane hit ground in Canada and I believe it was the right wing.
good job beating that left wing nonsense back. No planes are hitting the ground in the US! The Potomac is a RIVER
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Indeed. Now we have right wing plane crashes as god intended. Because if god intended man to fly he would have given us wings.
We have had fewer plane crashes to begin this year than we did last year.
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We have had fewer plane crashes to begin this year than we did last year.
We all know that Trump is about quality, not quantity
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We have had fewer plane crashes to begin this year than we did last year.
How do commercial plane crashes involving fatalities compare?
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The plane hit ground in Canada and I believe it was the right wing.
Just Canada fitting in to be the 51st state.
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PAMan rising quickly to take the funding hysteria bait!
There is obviously something to be said for cutting out waste. There is also something to be said for cutting and slashing just because you can without any thought to the consequences. Cutting nuclear reactor employees and bird flu researchers may fall into the latter.
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There is obviously something to be said for cutting out waste. There is also something to be said for cutting and slashing just because you can without any thought to the consequences. Cutting nuclear reactor employees and bird flu researchers may fall into the latter.
My cousin worked at Braidwood and gets farmed out to other power plants. If he got cut, I'm sure he'd rationalize it as "pain we need to go through". Then when he got sick and had no medicare, he'd say "everyone dies someday"
then again, he won't get cut because of the union, which is the one union in existence that makes sense unlike every other union which is basically enabling goldbricking
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Not surprising that no one here is pointing out all the fucked up stuff that’s being uncovered but choosing only to focus on clerical errors. Just be honest, it isn’t that they’re making cuts, it is who is making cuts.
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Like our resident “moderate.”
(https://i.postimg.cc/xdRzp3rf/IMG-0630.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Not surprising that no one here is pointing out all the fucked up stuff that’s being uncovered but choosing only to focus on clerical errors. Just be honest, it isn’t that they’re making cuts, it is who is making cuts.
ok, then, why don't you come to the rescue. Name one thing that is fucked up that's been uncovered
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Not surprising that no one here is pointing out all the fucked up stuff that’s being uncovered but choosing only to focus on clerical errors. Just be honest, it isn’t that they’re making cuts, it is who is making cuts.
What's been "uncovered"?
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ok, then, why don't you come to the rescue. Name one thing that is fucked up that's been uncovered
The condoms being sent to a Gaza that happened to be a different "Gaza" in Africa? One would think driving down the birthrate over there would be a good thing all around for security stability, the environment, etc. but what do I know?
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The condoms being sent to a Gaza that happened to be a different "Gaza" in Africa? One would think driving down the birthrate over there would be a good thing all around for security stability, the environment, etc. but what do I know?
also fewer of them black fellers...
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also fewer of them black fellers...
I figured that would be inferred by those who infer those types of things.
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What's been "uncovered"?
People work for the federal government.
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My cousin worked at Braidwood and gets farmed out to other power plants. If he got cut, I'm sure he'd rationalize it as "pain we need to go through". Then when he got sick and had no medicare, he'd say "everyone dies someday"
then again, he won't get cut because of the union, which is the one union in existence that makes sense unlike every other union which is basically enabling goldbricking
Yes, let’s go back to the days before unions and rely on the integrity of billionaires in business negotiations.
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People work for the federal government.
I certainly do not mind shitcanning worthless bureaucrats, of which there are many, but there has to be rhyme and reason to it. This is not it.
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I certainly do not mind shitcanning worthless bureaucrats, of which there are many, but there has to be rhyme and reason to it. This is not it.
How much knowledge do you have about what’s actually going on? Who here really does? Do you think the various media outlets might have their own agendas to either prop up or tear down the actions of DOGE? Now that every tribe has their own special safe space news outlets to marinate in, how does one know they’re getting the full story?
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Custard loves that they are making his wet dreams come true, but also admits to not fully understanding what’s going on.
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Custard loves that they are making his wet dreams come true, but also admits to not fully understanding what’s going on.
I wanted an audit of the federal government and spending to be reigned in. Why wouldn’t we? We are on an entirely unsustainable path. There are a lot of people out there that don’t want that to happen and will stop at nothing to prevent it. There are billions and billions of motivations for people to lie and sabotage and cherry pick any of the mishaps that are bound to happen in an initiative of this scope. Difficult cuts will be made. Sucks, but it’s reality.
You were never going to give this a fair shot, and you live in the left echo chamber of people who weren’t going to give it a fair shot, and who are disproportionately represented in federal government jobs to begin with. So naturally you’re getting the confirmation of your bias that you crave and running with it.
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How much knowledge do you have about what’s actually going on? Who here really does? Do you think the various media outlets might have their own agendas to either prop up or tear down the actions of DOGE? Now that every tribe has their own special safe space news outlets to marinate in, how does one know they’re getting the full story?
I know that universities doing research on food, etc. are closing down those departments. Even some GOP members are getting nervous about the impact on their state schools. Semafor had a report today about US scientists applying in large numbers to some German research group (that, ironically enough, had been created to assist German scientists to emigrate to the US after the Nazis took over). We obviously made the decision to outsource R&D to universities after WWII. That's over. What is left to fill the void?
If the heads of agencies want to assess who is doing a good job and should be kept, fine. Allowing some tech bros to do it via an algorithm has its limits as we have seen. We have read about the "oops, we want you back" emails for certain positions.
You want to give up providing food for other countries who are too dumb, whatever, to grow shit themselves? Fine. But realize there will be consequences for US farmers and in allowing someone else, like Commie Chinese and Soviet Fucks, to fill the void. While it may not be an issue today or tomorrow, it will be a mess down the road that someone is going to have to clean up ala the upcoming sell out of the Ukrainians.
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I wanted an audit of the federal government and spending to be reigned in. Why wouldn’t we? We are on an entirely unsustainable path. There are a lot of people out there that don’t want that to happen and will stop at nothing to prevent it. There are billions and billions of motivations for people to lie and sabotage and cherry pick any of the mishaps that are bound to happen in an initiative of this scope. Difficult cuts will be made. Sucks, but it’s reality.
You were never going to give this a fair shot, and you live in the left echo chamber of people who weren’t going to give it a fair shot, and who are disproportionately represented in federal government jobs to begin with. So naturally you’re getting the confirmation of your bias that you crave and running with it.
Congress has the power of the purse strings. The Trumpers are in control of both houses. This should not be too hard for them if they are serious about it. The problem is they are not. Hell, they cannot even get a tax and/or immigration bill together.
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I’m fine with the concept of making government more efficient and cost-effective. I’m not convinced the world’s richest man, who wasn’t elected to anything is the person to oversee it.
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Elon clearly has a personal agenda. And it’s influence and power.
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Elon clearly has a personal agenda. And it’s influence and power.
And your ad funded dollars!
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Congress has the power of the purse strings. The Trumpers are in control of both houses. This should not be too hard for them if they are serious about it. The problem is they are not. Hell, they cannot even get a tax and/or immigration bill together.
But they won’t, they love the scorched earth approach that they can’t be blamed for. While they collect gubmnet paychecks, healthcare and the perks of being influential friends with billionaires.
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But they won’t, they love the scorched earth approach that they can’t be blamed for. While they collect gubmnet paychecks, healthcare and perks of being friends with billionaires.
Which is why I say let them go and when Medicare, Medicaid, FEMA, etc. money is dried up and the checks stop flowing to the Red States (funded by the Blue States), and there are more jihadists running amuck all over the world (and eventually here), more planes crashing and their kids are sick because the water is fucked up, there are no chickens left, and they have to cancel their trip to Yosemite because the FAA, EPA, FDA, and the Park Service can't do their jobs with only 10 people, just remind them this is what they voted for.
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As I said, this won’t end well. For anyone. Especially Republican politicians. The buyers’ remorse will be profuse.
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But at least for a short few months the libs will have been owned.
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As I said, this won’t end well. For anyone. Especially Republican politicians. The buyers’ remorse will be profuse.
Until the inevitable Progressive overreach ala the Biden Admin. He fucked up royal in who he hired/appointed in critical positions.
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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/jesse-watters-makes-on-air-plea-to-trump-for-veteran-friend-who-got-doged-in-pentagon-cuts/
Fox News host Jesse Watters made an on-air plea that the Trump administration be “less callous” when implementing when laying off federal employees after a military veteran friend was “DOGE’d” in Elon Musk’s Pentagon cuts.
A report on Wednesday revealed that the Pentagon had provided the Trump administration with a list of probationary employees who could be targeted in the next wave of federal workforce reductions.
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And your ad funded dollars!
Elon doesn’t need my pennies.
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I certainly do not mind shitcanning worthless bureaucrats, of which there are many, but there has to be rhyme and reason to it. This is not it.
The irony of a bunch of people talking about worthless bureaucrats while we post on a message board during the work day.
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The irony of a bunch of people talking about worthless bureaucrats while we post on a message board during the work day.
Touché
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I wanted an audit of the federal government and spending to be reigned in. Why wouldn’t we? We are on an entirely unsustainable path. There are a lot of people out there that don’t want that to happen and will stop at nothing to prevent it. There are billions and billions of motivations for people to lie and sabotage and cherry pick any of the mishaps that are bound to happen in an initiative of this scope. Difficult cuts will be made. Sucks, but it’s reality.
You were never going to give this a fair shot, and you live in the left echo chamber of people who weren’t going to give it a fair shot, and who are disproportionately represented in federal government jobs to begin with. So naturally you’re getting the confirmation of your bias that you crave and running with it.
They laid off every new, recently transferred, or recently promoted person in the National Parks Service and National Forest Service. Trump did this. The guy who bitched that we weren't "raking the leaves" fires the people who rake the leaves. Both of those orgs are chronically understaffed.
Now if you say "it sucks, but we aren't gonna have National Parks", we can have a policy disagreement there. But that's not what you, or Musk or Trump are saying.
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Murph bringing his A game today.
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They laid off every new, recently transferred, or recently promoted person in the National Parks Service and National Forest Service. Trump did this. The guy who bitched that we weren't "raking the leaves" fires the people who rake the leaves. Both of those orgs are chronically understaffed.
Now if you say "it sucks, but we aren't gonna have National Parks", we can have a policy disagreement there. But that's not what you, or Musk or Trump are saying.
I was just on a call with people from the USDA. They had to feverishly work to get people off of "probationary" status or else they were going to lose a shitload of their staff. And those people are essential to getting work done.
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I’m fine with the concept of making government more efficient and cost-effective. I’m not convinced the world’s richest man, who wasn’t elected to anything is the person to oversee it.
This is why "the progressives" suck.
"The world's richest man has no clue how government works, and how difficult it will be to identify from a computer where we are overstaffed or who are low performers, and his efforts will only leave critical areas understaffed and fire top performers we cannot regain, all while leaving what possible efficiencies there are in place - primarily in areas where he can get the money for himself"
Do not start with an apology. Don't bury the lede.
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I was just on a call with people from the USDA. They had to feverishly work to get people off of "probationary" status or else they were going to lose a shitload of their staff. And those people are essential to getting work done.
And you gave me grief for growing my own lettuce....
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And you gave me grief for growing my own lettuce....
Uhh. No I didn't. I never said shit to you about lettuce.
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Waste fraud and abuse indeed - the Presidio Trust turns a profit. Shut it down.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHkSI1qOFlw
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Uhh. No I didn't. I never said shit to you about lettuce.
I was there, I heard it. You definitely gave him shit about lettuce.
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I was there, I heard it. You definitely gave him shit about lettuce.
And the reason his shits are so runny - he doesn't eat lettuce!
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I know that universities doing research on food, etc. are closing down those departments. Even some GOP members are getting nervous about the impact on their state schools. Semafor had a report today about US scientists applying in large numbers to some German research group (that, ironically enough, had been created to assist German scientists to emigrate to the US after the Nazis took over). We obviously made the decision to outsource R&D to universities after WWII. That's over. What is left to fill the void?
If the heads of agencies want to assess who is doing a good job and should be kept, fine. Allowing some tech bros to do it via an algorithm has its limits as we have seen. We have read about the "oops, we want you back" emails for certain positions.
You want to give up providing food for other countries who are too dumb, whatever, to grow shit themselves? Fine. But realize there will be consequences for US farmers and in allowing someone else, like Commie Chinese and Soviet Fucks, to fill the void. While it may not be an issue today or tomorrow, it will be a mess down the road that someone is going to have to clean up ala the upcoming sell out of the Ukrainians.
Can you point to any meaningful development that the UI Soybean lab has had any time recently? The amount of money they have to play with is a drop in the bucket compared to Big Ag and private equity that drive almost all innovation in ag.
One family owned seed company—Beck’s Hybrids—publishes more valuable research and testing in their annual Practical Farm Research book composed of data from all over the eastern 2/3 of the country—than the UI has come out with in the last decade combined. As someone who has spent his entire life in ag, the soybean lab thing is just not something that matters. Purdue and Iowa State are light years ahead of UI these days in all things agronomy anyways.
When I was at UI 20+ years ago I had classes in that building and worked mornings, nights, and weekends at the beef research facility across from AH. The research we were doing was mostly feed additive and antibiotic efficacy stuff.
The college of ACES would whore out to whatever companies they could to get enough money to keep the lights on, but it wasn’t really impactful work other than for the people who earned money working there. Grateful for that, as the $6.10 an hour I made there paid my rent and beer money. But I could have made that somewhere else and not been out feeding cows at daylight when it was 2 degrees outside.
I’m still not clear on why we are putting our food production at risk to the Chinese and Russians by slashing unnecessary college labs that aren’t doing shit.
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Can you point to any meaningful development that the UI Soybean lab has had any time recently? The amount of money they have to play with is a drop in the bucket compared to Big Ag and private equity that drive almost all innovation in ag.
One family owned seed company—Beck’s Hybrids—publishes more valuable research and testing in their annual Practical Farm Research book composed of data from all over the eastern 2/3 of the country—than the UI has come out with in the last decade combined. As someone who has spent his entire life in ag, the soybean lab thing is just not something that matters. Purdue and Iowa State are light years ahead of UI these days in all things agronomy anyways.
When I was at UI 20+ years ago I had classes in that building and worked mornings, nights, and weekends at the beef research facility across from AH. The research we were doing was mostly feed additive and antibiotic efficacy stuff.
The college of ACES would whore out to whatever companies they could to get enough money to keep the lights on, but it wasn’t really impactful work other than for the people who earned money working there. Grateful for that, as the $6.10 an hour I made there paid my rent and beer money. But I could have made that somewhere else and not been out feeding cows at daylight when it was 2 degrees outside.
I’m still not clear on why we are putting our food production at risk to the Chinese and Russians by slashing unnecessary college labs that aren’t doing shit.
I have no clue. Maybe they have. Maybe they have not. But, for example, we discussed here, previously, that they were trying to develop products for Sub Sahara Africa that you admitted would not be profitable for corporate purposes but would be, I would think, possible game changers for the locals. There is something to be said to trying to develop something that is "good," but not profitable enough for corporations to develop, isn't there? Plus, it is a way for drunken college students to maybe learn something while getting beer money.
Farmers are not nervous because USAID isn't going to be buying their stuff? OK....
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https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-trump-musk-funding-foia-congress-transparency
Let's see if I can wrap my brain around this.
*Doge gets most of its funding via transfers from federal agencies under the authority of the Economy Act. As such, Doge is effectively treated as a federal agency
*Members of Doge have taken control of federal agencies. They have terminated employees, set policy, defunded programs, and so on. It is acting as if it has the authority of a federal agency.
*As an acting federal agency, Doge should be subject to the open records laws.
*However, Doge rejects FOIA requests, citing executive privilege. They claim they serve only in an advisory role to the President.
If DOGE is a federal agency, it can’t shield its records from the public. If it’s not an agency, then DOGE’s tens of millions of dollars in funding weren’t legally allocated and should be (clawed back) /quote]
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Don’t worry, this is all normal in a functioning democracy.
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Don’t worry, this is all normal in a functioning democracy.
Highly?
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https://www.propublica.org/article/doge-trump-musk-funding-foia-congress-transparency
Let's see if I can wrap my brain around this.
*Doge gets most of its funding via transfers from federal agencies under the authority of the Economy Act. As such, Doge is effectively treated as a federal agency
*Members of Doge have taken control of federal agencies. They have terminated employees, set policy, defunded programs, and so on. It is acting as if it has the authority of a federal agency.
*As an acting federal agency, Doge should be subject to the open records laws.
*However, Doge rejects FOIA requests, citing executive privilege. They claim they serve only in an advisory role to the President.
If DOGE is a federal agency, it can’t shield its records from the public. If it’s not an agency, then DOGE’s tens of millions of dollars in funding weren’t legally allocated and should be (clawed back)
You mean the Deep State? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
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Highly?
Settle for adequately in this case.
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Don’t worry, this is all normal in a functioning democracy.
The people voted for this in a free and fair election. You’ve told us many times we don’t have meaningful voter fraud. Therefore, this is democracy.
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I have no clue. Maybe they have. Maybe they have not. But, for example, we discussed here, previously, that they were trying to develop products for Sub Sahara Africa that you admitted would not be profitable for corporate purposes but would be, I would think, possible game changers for the locals. There is something to be said to trying to develop something that is "good," but not profitable enough for corporations to develop, isn't there? Plus, it is a way for drunken college students to maybe learn something while getting beer money.
Farmers are not nervous because USAID isn't going to be buying their stuff? OK....
Just because they were working on something doesn’t mean it was meaningful or going anywhere. When a country is in a debt crisis, cuts are going to be felt. It’s almost like everyone thought cuts would happen and no one would notice. Now people are nitpicking little things that really don’t matter in the big picture as a way to be outraged at the cuts. Like 400 newbie employees being laid off out of 45,000, or cutting funding for a soybean lab that was trying to make a soybean to help sub Saharan Africa that may never come to fruition. Brazil and the US make plenty of soybeans, they could buy some off of us. Better yet, Nvidia should buy a few million bushels and just donate them.
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The people voted for this in a free and fair election. You’ve told us many times we don’t have meaningful voter fraud. Therefore, this is democracy.
I never said there wasn’t plenty of corruption to go around. It just doesn’t usually come in the form of voter fraud.
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Just because they were working on something doesn’t mean it was meaningful or going anywhere. When a country is in a debt crisis, cuts are going to be felt. It’s almost like everyone thought cuts would happen and no one would notice. Now people are nitpicking little things that really don’t matter in the big picture as a way to be outraged at the cuts. Like 400 newbie employees being laid off out of 45,000, or cutting funding for a soybean lab that was trying to make a soybean to help sub Saharan Africa that may never come to fruition. Brazil and the US make plenty of soybeans, they could buy some off of us. Better yet, Nvidia should buy a few million bushels and just donate them.
I have a better idea. Tax the billionaires more.
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I have a better idea. Tax the billionaires more.
Why not both? It’s not an either/or situation. I mean the wealthy already pay a huge percentage of the tax, but they’re also the best at finding loopholes, like Murph does so he can buy more spandex shorts.
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Just because they were working on something doesn’t mean it was meaningful or going anywhere.
Well, I guess that is true, and nobody knows that better than you when you look in the mirror
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Like 400 newbie employees being laid off out of 45,000
Tell me you've never had a job without telling me you've never had a job.
Older people retire. If you fire all the young people and don't grow from within, you end up with a lack of experience at some point, and no institutional knowledge of how to work within the system of that organization, when you just try to bring in a bunch of hired guns who aren't embedded in that organization.
Example: 2024-2025 Illinois Basketball
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Why not both? It’s not an either/or situation. I mean the wealthy already pay a huge percentage of the tax
Not true. While wealthier individuals do tend - loopholes or not - pay a higher percentage of their income in taxes - there are 756 billionaires in the US and 330 million non-billionaires. Unless those billionaires are paying on average 1000x what the non billionaires are paying, your statement is false on its face.
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Better yet, Nvidia should buy a few million bushels and just donate them.
Nvidia has 30,000 employees. The company matches the first 10,000 dollars of every employees charitable contribution, a benefit that is universally embraced. Let's say only 2/3s of the money gets doled out - that is still 200 million dollars from the company and 200 million from the employees.
That's a lot of bushels.
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Instead of cutting air traffic controllers, national parks workers - Musk should be shuttering the post offices in every town with a population under 10,000
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Tell me you've never had a job without telling me you've never had a job.
Older people retire. If you fire all the young people and don't grow from within, you end up with a lack of experience at some point, and no institutional knowledge of how to work within the system of that organization, when you just try to bring in a bunch of hired guns who aren't embedded in that organization.
Example: 2024-2025 Illinois Basketball
So fire the experienced ones?
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Nvidia has 30,000 employees. The company matches the first 10,000 dollars of every employees charitable contribution, a benefit that is universally embraced. Let's say only 2/3s of the money gets doled out - that is still 200 million dollars from the company and 200 million from the employees.
That's a lot of bushels.
Exactly. Glad we could agree.
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Instead of cutting air traffic controllers, national parks workers - Musk should be shuttering the post offices in every town with a population under 10,000
How is that going to help?
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.Take your time Ray
From the Judge, "Indeed, one of the core questions here is whether the defendants even took the actions (or established the policies) that plaintiffs challenge.
The Judge set a March 24 deadline for discovery. Other motions may take things to May.
The seems as tho, appear to be and ifs, ands, and buts in the Propublica article may be, as the Judge says, presumptuous.
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I agree.
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Instead of cutting air traffic controllers, national parks workers - Musk should be shuttering the post offices in every town with a population under 10,000
Sarcasm?
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Comrade MN. You can't be serious.
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Comrade MN. You can't be serious.
About what ?
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About what ?
Figure it out..
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If Democrats pulled this crap; the right wing would have a temper tantrum.
Actually, they did when Obama had a pen and a phone.
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Why not both? It’s not an either/or situation. I mean the wealthy already pay a huge percentage of the tax, but they’re also the best at finding loopholes, like Murph does so he can buy more spandex shorts.
Sure, but gutting essential jobs isn’t the answer. I can get behind slashing the massively bloated defense budget. Notice they haven’t said anything about that.
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Sure, but gutting essential jobs isn’t the answer. I can get behind slashing the massively bloated defense budget. Notice they haven’t said anything about that.
I don't care if they cut some of DEI programs associated with State and USAID. Elections have consequences. Just be honest about it and do it right. They falsely attributed some State programs to USAID. Then they are using a handful of DEI programs as excuses to cancel a boatload of good ones.
Also, some programs were mindlessly and cruelly cut midstream. There is no defense for that.
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Take your time Ray
Thanks for your permission.
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From the Judge, "Indeed, one of the core questions here is whether the defendants even took the actions (or established the policies) that plaintiffs challenge.
Good point. Whether the defendants actually did what the plaintiffs allege is normally a key issue.
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Sure, but gutting essential jobs isn’t the answer. I can get behind slashing the massively bloated defense budget. Notice they haven’t said anything about that.
I’m not convinced they are slashing “essential jobs”
According to several on here, we are on the precipice of Russia taking over Eastern Europe. Can’t have defense cuts now!
Or wait, does the constant exaggerated threat of Russian aggression keep the MIC coffers full like it has for the last 80 years?
What a conundrum!
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Figure it out..
Nichi = Tempo is a match
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So fire the experienced ones?
Just had a discussion on this regarding the IRS with a Trumper accountant. He said there are going to be tons of retirements from the IRS of people who actually know what they are doing in the next 5 years and they are getting rid of the people who need the training in order to replace them.
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I’m not convinced they are slashing “essential jobs”
The fact that the administration is rehiring thousands of employees they just fired seems a clear indication you’re wrong. And even they think so.
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The fact that the administration is rehiring thousands of employees they just fired seems a clear indication you’re wrong. And even they think so.
Looks like the essential jobs are still filled!
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Just had a discussion on this regarding the IRS with a Trumper accountant. He said there are going to be tons of retirements from the IRS of people who actually know what they are doing in the next 5 years and they are getting rid of the people who need the training in order to replace them.
Hey Tempo here is your proof PAZher is still a Democrat!
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Hey Tempo here is your proof PAZher is still a Democrat!
I'm just telling you want the Trumper Accountant said.
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Hey Tempo here is your proof PAZher is still a Democrat!
Well he should know that Trump is going to end the fed, abolish federal taxes, and bring back the gold standard (after Elon makes sure the gold is still there) so we won’t need any IRS agents.
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"President Joe Biden is proposing to double the size of the IRS, by hiring nearly 87,000 new workers over the next decade, ...."
"The agency’s workforce would never grow by more than a “manageable” 15 percent each year. And its total budget would increase by about 10 percent annually."
https://www.politico.com/news/2021/05/20/irs-funding-boost-489830
The "manageable" is being managed.
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The fact that the administration is rehiring thousands of employees they just fired seems a clear indication you’re wrong. And even they think so.
Ding, ding, ding. Of course, the mass or blanket firings include “essential workers”. Just look at the hundreds of employees that were rehired at the Department of Agriculture, National Nuclear Security Administration, Small Business Administration and other departments after they were fired under the DOGE purge.
Look at the “probationary employees” who were fired without any regard to the functions they perform. Some were veteran employees that had simply transferred to another job. The DOGE dipshits have no idea of what these employees do or what their departments are responsible for.
I don’t question the Trump Administration’s goals to make government more efficient or shift program priorities to be more in line with its policy goals. Shut programs down or shift employees around, I don't care. But don’t be stupid about it.
Where are the legions of “forensic auditors” that Republicans for years have claimed will help ferret out waste and inefficiency in government? There are hundreds of private auditing firms that have experience in assessing local, state and federal programs. There are thousands of retired or former government employees who have experience in restructuring or reorganizing government offices.
Establish priorities, target the programs in question and hire several firms to review and make recommendations to agency directors. Work with knowlegeable staff. Then go to Congress and tell them which programs should be abolished or modified.
Try governing for a change.
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Service members, first responders and hospital workers who were terminated over vaccine policies. The police officer ranks were impacted by "defund the police" which slowed emergency response times or eliminated a response.
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Community notes for the win.
Yes, the proposed note is helpful.
Not to mention that Gen CQ Brown is still Black.
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Service members, first responders and hospital workers who were terminated over vaccine policies. The police officer ranks were impacted by "defund the police" which slowed emergency response times or eliminated a response.
Another example of "it's ok because Biden."
We should call it the "Biden killed all the hens" defense.
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Another example of "it's ok because Biden."
We should call it the "Biden killed all the hens" defense.
And The COVID Pandemic is over. To be replaced by a pandemic of cost cutting so that they can justify lowering taxes on the 1%.
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Ding, ding, ding. Of course, the mass or blanket firings include “essential workers”. Just look at the hundreds of employees that were rehired at the Department of Agriculture, National Nuclear Security Administration, Small Business Administration and other departments after they were fired under the DOGE purge.
Look at the “probationary employees” who were fired without any regard to the functions they perform. Some were veteran employees that had simply transferred to another job. The DOGE dipshits have no idea of what these employees do or what their departments are responsible for.
I don’t question the Trump Administration’s goals to make government more efficient or shift program priorities to be more in line with its policy goals. Shut programs down or shift employees around, I don't care. But don’t be stupid about it.
Where are the legions of “forensic auditors” that Republicans for years have claimed will help ferret out waste and inefficiency in government? There are hundreds of private auditing firms that have experience in assessing local, state and federal programs. There are thousands of retired or former government employees who have experience in restructuring or reorganizing government offices.
Establish priorities, target the programs in question and hire several firms to review and make recommendations to agency directors. Work with knowlegeable staff. Then go to Congress and tell them which programs should be abolished or modified.
Try governing for a change.
But none of those auditors will stand to increase their wealth and funding by billions upon billions if people with actual knowledge do it.
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Suh-prize!
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Still waiting to see hospitals and cancer research center with Elon’s name on them.
https://www.alancantorconsulting.com/2024/03/the-charity-of-elon-musk/
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Shout out to Golf!
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A few of those cookies Musk has have your name on them!
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A few of those cookies Musk has have your name on them!
Maybe a crumb. I keep insulting him hoping he’ll ban me.
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FTR, my cousin’s husband is one of SpaceX’s top engineers. Guess I should disown him!
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Her, too!
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How is that going to help?
Enough savings to send the rest of us a fat check!
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"President Joe Biden is proposing to double the size of the IRS, by hiring nearly 87,000 new workers over the next decade, ...."
if the fucking Republicans would stop cheating on their taxes, we wouldn't need any IRS agents.
The IRS is way understaffed. Every so often there might be some fuckup, last year all of California got an automatic extension due to the floods, so we didn't have to file an extension. But they erroneously failed to apply that to 401k plans. We got a computer generated letter of a $15k penalty on my wife's limited partnership's 401k plan (which has one participant, her). It took 2 months to get an appointment for a 5 minute call to fix it.
If they weren't understaffed, the fuckup probably doesn't happen, and if did, we could have fixed it the day we got the letter. Multiply the amount of time random citizens spend on hold with the IRS and the economic cost of that, additional IRS agents at current staffing levels would be a big cost savings.
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I don’t question the Trump Administration’s goals to make government more efficient
LOL you must be new here. They could care less if government is more efficient at anything but lining their pockets
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The police officer ranks were impacted by "defund the police" which slowed emergency response times or eliminated a response.
oh please. No police were defunded. Here in Librul California, the police departments are always hiring, have plenty of budget, just can't get the people who want the job, because well, Google pays better.
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People either didn't understand defund the police, or they were being willfully ignorant.
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People either didn't understand defund the police, or they were being willfully ignorant.
or are being bamboozled by the GOP's sloganeering
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if the fucking Republicans would stop cheating on their taxes, we wouldn't need any IRS agents.
The IRS is way understaffed. Every so often there might be some fuckup, last year all of California got an automatic extension due to the floods, so we didn't have to file an extension. But they erroneously failed to apply that to 401k plans. We got a computer generated letter of a $15k penalty on my wife's limited partnership's 401k plan (which has one participant, her). It took 2 months to get an appointment for a 5 minute call to fix it.
If they weren't understaffed, the fuckup probably doesn't happen, and if did, we could have fixed it the day we got the letter. Multiply the amount of time random citizens spend on hold with the IRS and the economic cost of that, additional IRS agents at current staffing levels would be a big cost savings.
maybe they just need faster computers
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People either didn't understand defund the police, or they were being willfully ignorant.
if the message was "demilitarize the police" it probably would have been more popular
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if the message was "demilitarize the police" it probably would have been more popular
"Demilitarize public servants" might not be the right message.
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oh please. No police were defunded. Here in Librul California, the police departments are always hiring, have plenty of budget, just can't get the people who want the job, because well, Google pays better.
They aren’t hiring from the same pool and you know it. People don’t want to be cops because you’ve crippled their ability to perform the basic fundamentals of law enforcement while enabling shoplifters and drug addicts.
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Hahahahahahahaha
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Hahahahahahahaha
Lol
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Lol
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They aren’t hiring from the same pool and you know it. People don’t want to be cops because you’ve crippled their ability to perform the basic fundamentals of law enforcement while enabling shoplifters and drug addicts.
Yeah, that’s it…
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if the message was "demilitarize the police" it probably would have been more popular
Crime prevention programs, mental healthcare, education, family services, etc. were being defunded.
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They aren’t hiring from the same pool and you know it. People don’t want to be cops because you’ve crippled their ability to perform the basic fundamentals of law enforcement while enabling shoplifters and drug addicts.
Because so many cops are being held accountable for use of excessive force…
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Fuck tha po-leese.
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It's the punishment vs rehabilitation model and we don't do either one well.
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They aren’t hiring from the same pool and you know it. People don’t want to be cops because you’ve crippled their ability to perform the basic fundamentals of law enforcement while enabling shoplifters and drug addicts.
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It’s probably not an ironic coincidence Custard chose “shoplifters and drug addicts” as examples, because those would be relatively easy targets for police to brutalize and even kill.
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It’s probably not an ironic coincidence Custard chose “shoplifters and drug addicts” as examples, because those would be relatively easy targets for police to brutalize and even kill.
Coddling them has been so successful hasn't it?
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Coddling them has been so successful hasn't it?
Yes, they are certainly “coddled.”
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Coddling them has been so successful hasn't it?
Brilliant comment. You just nailed it.
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It’s amazing to me that PAMan considers himself anything other than a Nixon/Bush/McCain Law and Order Republican.
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Brilliant comment. You just nailed it.
Thanks! Keep hitting the buzzer for the non-existent Walgreens worker to come unlock the cabinet so you can buy razors. It is so awesome they have to do this because Progressive Scum won't let cops and prosecutors do the jobs they are paid to do: lock the dirt bags and dope heads up and throw away the key!
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Thanks! Keep hitting the buzzer for the non-existent Walgreens worker to come unlock the cabinet so you can buy razors. It is so awesome they have to do this because Progressive Scum won't let cops and prosecutors do the jobs they are paid to do: lock the dirt bags and dope heads up and throw away the key!
Pro tip. If you go into Kohls, and you want to walk out with something, they won't stop you. They're not supposed to, per their policy.
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It’s amazing to me that PAMan considers himself anything other than a Nixon/Bush/McCain Law and Order Republican.
It amazes me that you have not moved to the Socialist Utopias of Cuba or Venezuela yet. How about moving there to see what they are like before trying to make the US like them?
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Yes, they are certainly “coddled.”
Says the guy who fled the City for a suburb where 80% of its population is White or Asian....
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Pro tip. If you go into Kohls, and you want to walk out with something, they won't stop you. They're not supposed to, per their policy.
They got smart and moved the Amazon Return desk upstairs at the Kohl's near me. Makes it far more inconvenient so I take mine back to Whole Paycheck now.
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Says the guy who fled the City for a suburb where 80% of its population is White or Asian....
And racist as fuck
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They got smart and moved the Amazon Return desk upstairs at the Kohl's near me. Makes it far more inconvenient so I take mine back to Whole Paycheck now.
No, literally. If you find something you want, you can actually walk out of the store with it. They will do nothing.
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They aren’t hiring from the same pool and you know it. People don’t want to be cops because you’ve crippled their ability to perform the basic fundamentals of law enforcement while enabling shoplifters and drug addicts.
The difficulty in recruiting law enforcement officers and employees is not due to a single reason. Yes, the public image of law enforcement is a contributing factor in fewer recruits, but there are other critical issues:
-Many young people view police work differently than their parents may have. Millennials and Gen Z are more interested in a work-life balance that includes more flexible working conditions like guaranteed time off and flexible hours.
-Hiring process challenges; passing a background check is a huge barrier in hiring individuals, as is meeting all the necessary criteria to be a police officer. Many departments are reconsidering their no-tattoo and past use of controlled substances policies.
-The recruiting process can last anywhere from four months to a year; potential recruits may be unwilling or unable to wait that long.
-Student loan debt, child care challenges for complex schedules, and the need for double incomes makes police work a more stressful occupation for families today.
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They aren’t hiring from the same pool and you know it. People don’t want to be cops because you’ve crippled their ability to perform the basic fundamentals of law enforcement while enabling shoplifters and drug addicts.
When I said "Google pays better" I meant - "Google pays their security guards better"
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Thanks! Keep hitting the buzzer for the non-existent Walgreens worker to come unlock the cabinet so you can buy razors. It is so awesome they have to do this because Progressive Scum won't let cops and prosecutors do the jobs they are paid to do: lock the dirt bags and dope heads up and throw away the key!
Why didn't this happen before? Biden?
No. Bezos. Too easy to fence small shit these days.
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No, literally. If you find something you want, you can actually walk out of the store with it. They will do nothing.
If I were being paid $15 an hour I'm not gonna go run after some shoplifter and get hit or shot. If the employee duty included crime enforcement, they wouldn't be able to hire anyone.
The system relies on humans being honest for the most part. But it broke down when humans decided they would save a few bucks by buying stolen shit on Amazon to save a couple of bucks. But the "dishonest people" are the shoplifters, not the people buying the obviously stolen goods.
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If I were being paid $15 an hour I'm not gonna go run after some shoplifter and get hit or shot. If the employee duty included crime enforcement, they wouldn't be able to hire anyone.
The system relies on humans being honest for the most part. But it broke down when humans decided they would save a few bucks by buying stolen shit on Amazon to save a couple of bucks. But the "dishonest people" are the shoplifters, not the people buying the obviously stolen goods.
Of course not. In fact, those employees are told not to challenge them. Because if they get hurt somehow, that's a whole nother issue.
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Thanks! Keep hitting the buzzer for the non-existent Walgreens worker to come unlock the cabinet so you can buy razors. It is so awesome they have to do this because Progressive Scum won't let cops and prosecutors do the jobs they are paid to do: lock the dirt bags and dope heads up and throw away the key!
Yep, not imprisoning enough people is clearly our problem!
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I did not “flee the city,” I held out to live there as long as I could. Sorry I didn’t live in ThePAMan household where the man makes every decision with no input from the wife:
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I did not “flee the city,” I held out to live there as long as I could. Sorry I didn’t live in ThePAMan household where the man makes every decision with no input from the wife:
Wife? I thought she was just a baby momma
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And racist as fuck
Wut.
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Tempo blew a wad in a chick. lol oops
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No, literally. If you find something you want, you can actually walk out of the store with it. They will do nothing.
You should totally try it, then!
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Wut.
The population in general. Not you. I don't think you're racist. Even tho you called me racist because I live in Washington, IL.
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You should totally try it, then!
No. I wouldn't do that. Because I'm honest and I can afford to buy stuff. Good advice tho.
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No woman should ever be allowed input to anything that goes on in a household. And they damn sure shouldn’t be coaching football.
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The population in general. Not you. I don't think you're racist. Even tho you called me racist because I live in Washington, IL.
I think I called you comfy. Which is what PAMan is calling me.
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If there happens to be a woman in the house, according to Archie Bunker here, she should be sucking his dick. Right Archie?
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There probably are a lot of racists here, IDK. I don’t really talk to any of them. There’s a lot of Trumpers, I know.
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I think I called you comfy. Which is what PAMan is calling me.
No, you never used that word. You called me a racist.
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If there happens to be a woman in the house, according to Archie Bunker here, she should be sucking his dick. Right Archie?
I was always secretly gay on the show.
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My sexism and racism were merely a front. I especially enjoyed BBC.
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No, you never used that word. You called me a racist.
I’m about 99.9% sure that didn’t happen.
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I said you were comfy living in a mostly white neighborhood.
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Overwhelmingly white.
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I’m about 99.9% sure that didn’t happen.
It did. You gave me shit about living in a largely white community. And basically ran me down for it.
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Overwhelmingly white.
You live in one of those too...
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Tempo blew a wad in a chick. lol oops
You should totally try it, then!
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The bigger point, from my side, is I really don't give a flying fuck about what a lazy underachieving uber driver thinks of me.
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It did. You gave me shit about living in a largely white community. And basically ran me down for it.
But I can assure you I didn’t call you a racist. I heavily implied you were comfy living in an overwhelmingly white community.
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You should totally try it, then!
I have! At least twice!
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But I can assure you I didn’t call you a racist. I heavily implied you were comfy living in an overwhelmingly white community.
Nah. That's not what you were getting at. Let's not lie.
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Nah. That's not what you were getting at. Let's not lie.
Show me were I specifically called you a racist.
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I just want everyone to know that a retired black couple AND an Indian family live in our neighborhood! The Indian family—get this—owns gas stations, hotels, and rental proporties all over town!
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Yep, not imprisoning enough people is clearly our problem!
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Correct. Need to throw more in jail.
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I did not “flee the city,” I held out to live there as long as I could. Sorry I didn’t live in ThePAMan household where the man makes every decision with no input from the wife:
You held out but did not flee. LOL. You fled. C'mon.
I sure wish I lived in a household where I made every decision without input from the wife. Shit would get done then!
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I just want everyone to know that a retired black couple AND an Indian family live in our neighborhood! The Indian family—get this—owns gas stations, hotels, and rental proporties all over town!
By black couple, he means a white couple with the surname "Black"
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heavily implied
I laughed out loud when I read this....
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The Indian family—get this—owns gas stations, hotels, and rental proporties all over town!
What about the local 7-11?
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I just want everyone to know that a retired black couple AND an Indian family live in our neighborhood!
A third of the people on my block no hablo inglès. Another third are maga
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What about the local 7-11?
Nope, different local chain.
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! The Indian family—get this—owns gas stations, hotels, and rental proporties all over town!
Patel or Singh?
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A third of the people on my block no hablo inglès. Another third are maga
To the north is an African-American family where the elementary school aged boy only wants to play baseball. I have given them youth baseball stuff we no longer need. The kid appears to be good so far.
To the south is a Filipino family where the dad has had a ponytail and is a Saints fan. The mom sells Lululemon-style workout clothes from the house. No clue what the 3 kids over there do.
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You held out but did not flee. LOL. You fled. C'mon.
I sure wish I lived in a household where I made every decision without input from the wife. Shit would get done then!
Did I consult or confide in you at the time? I most definitely did not want to move to the burbs. But I did what I thought was going to make my son’s mother happy. Hindsight is 50/50 as some say (yes, I know it’s 20/20).
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I have immigrants and Indians living in my house. I don’t even know some of their names.
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No, clearly you live in a household where you make all the decisions. Because you hold me to that standard, so it must be the norm for you.
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No, clearly you live in a household where you make all the decisions. Because you hold me to that standard, so it must be the norm for you.
I make all the important ones, like the decision to buy one of those handheld cigar butane torches that can also be used for cooking.
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I make all the important ones, like the decision to buy one of those handheld cigar butane torches that can also be used for cooking.
I giggled.
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No, clearly you live in a household where you make all the decisions. Because you hold me to that standard, so it must be the norm for you.
Elon Musk makes all decisions. But he is too bent to actually make decisions
https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-paternity-children-ashley-st-clair-grimes-court-new-york-custody-son-texts-2035178
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Elon Musk makes all decisions. But he is too bent to actually make decisions
https://www.newsweek.com/elon-musk-paternity-children-ashley-st-clair-grimes-court-new-york-custody-son-texts-2035178
He’s so clearly a dbag. Custard thinks we’re lucky to have him, though.
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Patel or Singh?
Patel af
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He’s so clearly a dbag. Custard thinks we’re lucky to have him, though.
Yawn
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Yawn
It's America's Golden Era!
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It's America's Golden Era!
Good one, Tempo!
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He’s so clearly a dbag. Custard thinks we’re lucky to have him, though.
Custard's just jealous he was not as good at life as Musk and can't just text random "Conservative Influencers" "hey baby. I'd like to knock you up again"
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Losing a lot of his net worth?
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lol
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Early this month, Musk called USAID a criminal organization and proceeded to shut it down. So far, no evidence of a crime by USAID. We do know USAID was investigating equipment from one of Musk's companies.
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Elon Musk, billionaire aide to President Donald Trump, said on X on Thursday morning that former President Joe Biden’s administration ordered “an insane slaughter of 150 million egg-laying chickens”—mischaracterizing the former administration’s compliance with a Department of Agriculture policy still being followed under Trump.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/03/06/elon-musk-says-biden-ordered-insane-slaughter-of-150-million-chickens-but-culls-are-usda-policy-to-stop-bird-flu-spread/
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/03/06/elon-musk-says-biden-ordered-insane-slaughter-of-150-million-chickens-but-culls-are-usda-policy-to-stop-bird-flu-spread/
Is 150 million chickens an insane amount ?
Or,
Is it insane to kill 150 million chickens ?
The left has been complaining since Trump's 1st days in office about Trump not bringing down the price of eggs.
The former Transportation Secretary mentions $10 eggs on March 5.
Elon posts on March 6.
So some investigative journalist writes an article for Forbes.
From Forbes: "She graduated with a degree in journalism from Creighton University and has an MA in investigative journalism from Arizona State."
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Yes. It's a real issue. 150 million egg-layers were slaughtered. Egg prices are up.
The Forbes article must have hit home to a lot of people tho. Lol.
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/mollybohannon/2025/03/06/elon-musk-says-biden-ordered-insane-slaughter-of-150-million-chickens-but-culls-are-usda-policy-to-stop-bird-flu-spread/
I mean, that’s what they did. And the new administration is trying to avoid this.
No. Kevin Hassett, director of the National Economic Council, criticized the past administration on CBS in mid-February, saying the “Biden plan was to just, you know, kill chickens, and they spent billions of dollars just randomly killing chickens within a perimeter where they found a sick chicken.” Hassett then said the government was working on a way to ensure not all chickens in a flock that has an infection need to be killed—though Rosemary Sifford, chief veterinary officer for the USDA's Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service, told stakeholders shortly after that there were “no anticipated changes to our current stamping-out policy at this time.” However, in the USDA’s announcement of the $1 billion investment, it said the agency will be “hyper-focused” on a strategy to reduce the occurrence of and “minimize depopulation of egg laying chickens.”
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So take a "scalpel" to the bird flu but not terminating government employees, essential or otherwise. Well, I guess it may be a start.
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They are still using the stamping out approach. There is no practical alternative. Musk is an idiot.
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But, the killing of chickens infected with avian flu, or in stocks where it was present, is known as a “stamping-out policy” and is followed by the USDA, which states there is no treatment for highly pathogenic avian flu and “the only way to stop the disease is to depopulate all affected and exposed poultry.”
...
While the majority of those killed occurred during Biden’s presidency, the practice has continued since Trump took office and an estimated 13 million birds have been affected since February.
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They are still using the stamping out approach. There is no practical alternative. Musk is an idiot.
When democrats do it, it’s spin.
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So take a "scalpel" to the bird flu but not terminating government employees, essential or otherwise. Well, I guess it may be a start.
https://www.axios.com/2025/03/07/trump-doge-mass-firings-federal-workers
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Is 150 million chickens an insane amount ?
Or,
Is it insane to kill 150 million chickens ?
The left has been complaining since Trump's 1st days in office about Trump not bringing down the price of eggs.
The former Transportation Secretary mentions $10 eggs on March 5.
Elon posts on March 6.
So some investigative journalist writes an article for Forbes.
From Forbes: "She graduated with a degree in journalism from Creighton University and has an MA in investigative journalism from Arizona State."
(https://i.ibb.co/gFSQ2gQs/Screenshot-20250307-140705-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/7NnBfyB7)
Yes. It's a real issue. 150 million egg-layers were slaughtered. Egg prices are up.
The Forbes article must have hit home to a lot of people tho. Lol.
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I like your profile pic.
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The "left" (lol) s not complaining about Trump not bringing down the price of eggs. They are simply pointing it out. Everyone with a brain knew Trump had no plan to reduce the price of the eggs. It was always avian flu, this is not news.
The 'right' is now "complaining" that avian flu somehow only affects domestic egg layer chickens. Some are falling for that.
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The left isn’t complaining about Trump not bringing down the price of eggs?
https://time.com/7265664/democrats-egg-prices-attack-trump/
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Poor Molly. She still can't get a comment on her article.
There's more at IlliniHQ2. ;D ;D
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The 'right' is now "complaining" that avian flu somehow only affects domestic egg layer chickens. Some are falling for that.
Text Molly. It couldn't hurt.
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I like your profile pic.
Hey thanx.
#Chickensflocktogether.
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Indiana bird flu cases explode, killing chickens, sandhill cranes, other waterfowl
Eli Fleace, an avian health biologist with Indiana’s Department of Natural Resources, said reports of dying sandhill cranes have been rolling in since January. Dead sandhills have been found this year in Union, Greene, Jasper, Newton, LaPorte and Stark counties, and DNR estimates roughly 1,500 have died across the state.
Snow geese, Canada geese, red-breasted mergansers, common goldeneyes and mallards have also died due to avian influenza, Fleace said. The bird flu has been found in at least one Bald Eagle and a handful of hawks and owls that can pick up the disease by scavenging on carcasses of infected birds.
https://www.indystar.com/story/news/environment/2025/02/28/indiana-bird-flu-cases-egg-prices-2025-latest-updates/80698032007/
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The left isn’t complaining about Trump not bringing down the price of eggs?
https://time.com/7265664/democrats-egg-prices-attack-trump/
I think you're missing the point. Trump said he would lower egg prices. Now he can't because Biden killed the chickens. Never mind that Trump is still killing chickens.
The actual problem is the highly pathogenic avian influenza H5N1 clade 2.3.4.4 virus that has been detected in U.S. wild aquatic birds, commercial poultry and backyard or hobbyist flocks beginning in January 2022. (I plagiarized that) Try explaining it to hysterical Trump apologists.
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Pretty tough to immediately bring down egg prices in the midst of this bird flu, and I don’t think it’s wrong to point out why they are high. What do you want to bet that egg prices will be lower sometime in the next 46 months?
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Text Molly. It couldn't hurt.
Why don't you mansplain her. I bet that would go over well. LMAO
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Pretty tough to immediately bring down egg prices in the midst of this bird flu, and I don’t think it’s wrong to point out why they are high. What do you want to bet that egg prices will be lower sometime in the next 46 months?
Trump should admit he was wrong and Biden was right.
My guess is massive egg farms are part of the problem.
Hopefully the persistent strain of avian flu gets stamped out. I don't see how just culling sick birds from huge flocks is a sensible approach..
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Trump should admit he was wrong and Biden was right.
My guess is massive egg farms are part of the problem.
Hopefully the persistent strain of avian flu gets stamped out. I don't see how just culling sick birds from huge flocks is a sensible approach..
Trump should admit that he is wrong and Biden was right and commit political suicide? About what? Egg prices are high because we culled millions of birds. That’s undeniable. Of course they are going to harp on that fact, it’s politics. You’re usually a reasonable person, but this is where your bias kicks in. If Trump says it, it’s a lie. If a Democrat says it, it’s “spin.”
Even if you believe that the only way to solve for the bird flu is culling them all, it’s still the reason prices are high. A not-insignificant number of birds are not going to succumb to the virus. Wouldn’t it make some sense to cull the sick, keep the strong, and then breed the survivors? The offspring will inherently have better survivability to this type of virus going forward.
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Trump should admit that he is wrong and Biden was right and commit political suicide? About what? Egg prices are high because we culled millions of birds. That’s undeniable. Of course they are going to harp on that fact, it’s politics. You’re usually a reasonable person, but this is where your bias kicks in. If Trump says it, it’s a lie. If a Democrat says it, it’s “spin.”
Then why spend the entire campaign saying you'll bring down prices on day one, unless you are a liar or stupid?
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Then why spend the entire campaign saying you'll bring down prices on day one, unless you are a liar or stupid?
Shall we walk through all the things Democrats have said that weren’t true in order to get elected?
You’re old enough to know how this works. It’s just selective criticism at this point.
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If only Trump had known, when he was campaigning 6 months ago, that bird flu was going to get out of hand during the end of the Biden administration.
If only Trump had known, last October, that Musk was going to make a comment in March of 2025 that as part of the Biden administration's 2024-2025 culling that tens of millions of chickens would be culled in Dec 2024 and Jan 2025.
"At that existential moment back in March, when the virus was first detected in cows, veterinarians involved in the response had every expectation that a well-honed network of experts, led by USDA scientists, would immediately rev to life."
"But it didn’t. “Nobody came,” says one veterinarian in a Western state. “When the diagnosis came in, the government stood still. They didn’t know what to do, so they did nothing.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/inside-the-bungled-bird-flu-response?srsltid=AfmBOor7IP5VUBGjAi4aNpeDrYJfAq-cV4GtRtuG-0pVMGNJUWHeykVA
Oct 2024.
And a heartwarming fishwrap story from this past Thanksgiving about the waning bird flu impact and the Biden Thanksgiving pardoning of 2 turkeys.
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If only Trump had known, when he was campaigning 6 months ago, that bird flu was going to get out of hand during the end of the Biden administration.
If only Trump had known, last October, that Musk was going to make a comment in March of 2025 that as part of the Biden administration's 2024-2025 culling that tens of millions of chickens would be culled in Dec 2024 and Jan 2025.
"At that existential moment back in March, when the virus was first detected in cows, veterinarians involved in the response had every expectation that a well-honed network of experts, led by USDA scientists, would immediately rev to life."
"But it didn’t. “Nobody came,” says one veterinarian in a Western state. “When the diagnosis came in, the government stood still. They didn’t know what to do, so they did nothing.”
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/inside-the-bungled-bird-flu-response?srsltid=AfmBOor7IP5VUBGjAi4aNpeDrYJfAq-cV4GtRtuG-0pVMGNJUWHeykVA
Oct 2024.
And a heartwarming fishwrap story from this past Thanksgiving about the waning bird flu impact and the Biden Thanksgiving pardoning of 2 turkeys.
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But I read here that Trump fired all the good, smart people working on the bird flu response!
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I am not sure what the point of linking that vanity fair article was. The USDA sucks.? They covered it up? They didn't do enough?
There was absolutely no new information in that article. They have been dealing with this strain since January 2022.
The Trump admin message has been they can't lower egg prices because Biden killed millions of chickens..
Anyone who could afford to pay attention knew the USDA was taking a stamp it out, depopulate approach.
There was never any way Trump was going to be able to.lower egg prices. I knew that. If Trump got caught by surprise, that was his fault.
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But I read here that Trump fired all the good, smart people working on the bird flu response!
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/27/trump-fired-bird-flu-hires-00206334
https://apnews.com/article/usda-firings-doge-bird-flu-trump-fdd6495cbe44c96d471ae8c6cf4dd0a8
Ready!
Fire!
Aim!
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"If only Trump had known, when he was campaigning 6 months ago, that bird flu was going to get out of hand during the end of the Biden administration."
wtf?
Confirmations of Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza in Commercial and Backyard Flocks
Last Modified: June 20, 2024
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/commercial-backyard-flocks
MDARD Director Tim Boring Signs ‘HPAI Risk Reduction Response Order’ Determination of Extraordinary Animal Health Emergency in Response to the Ongoing HPAI Outbreak in Michigan
May 01, 2024
https://www.michigan.gov/mdard/about/media/pressreleases/2024/05/01/mdard-director-signs-hpai-risk-reduction-response-order-for-hpai-outbreak-animal-health-emergency
The avian flu is hammering U.S. poultry farmers, leaving experts to ask: What has changed?
More than 40 million egg-laying hens have been culled in the U.S. alone, making it the worst outbreak on record.
Jan. 18, 2023, 3:57 PM EST
By Denise Chow and Evan Bush
The worst outbreak of avian influenza on record is threatening to stretch into a second year, as the U.S. races to contain a virus that has already caused some food prices to soar amid a shortage of eggs.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/avian-bird-flu-egg-prices-rcna66273
Plant-based brand Just Egg is running an ad declaring 'Plants don't get the flu' as chicken egg shortage continues
Alex Bitter Jan 13, 2023, 5:08 PM CT
Avian flu has wiped out millions of chickens, causing egg shortages and higher prices on shelves.
https://www.businessinsider.com/just-egg-ad-plant-based-eggs-bird-flu-egg-shortage-2023-1
Avian influenza outbreaks reduced egg production, driving prices to record highs in 2022
by Adriana Valcu-Lisman
1/11/2023
http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-detail?chartId=105576
Apr 28, 2023 — According to CNBC News, the egg shortage is caused by an ongoing outbreak of avian flu (H5N1),
Updated Jan. 28 2025,
https://www.greenmatters.com/news/bird-flu-egg-shortage
Bird flu outbreak is driving up egg prices — again
moneywatch
By Khristopher J. Brooks
Edited By Alain Sherter
April 24, 2024 / 4:29 PM EDT / CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bird-flu-outbreak-egg-prices-2024/
Bird flu discovered in U.S. dairy cows is ‘disturbing’
Scientist who tracks infections on cattle farms discusses implications of recently announced virus detections
26 Mar 20246:25 PM
https://www.science.org/content/article/bird-flu-discovered-u-s-dairy-cows-disturbing
How could Trump have known?
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https://www.politico.com/news/2025/02/27/trump-fired-bird-flu-hires-00206334
https://apnews.com/article/usda-firings-doge-bird-flu-trump-fdd6495cbe44c96d471ae8c6cf4dd0a8
Ready!
Fire!
Aim!
Yeah, those folks were doing such a good job managing this bird flu! How many people do we need to employ to tell farmers to kill all their chickens when some of them get sick?
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Yeah, those folks were doing such a good job managing this bird flu! How many people do we need to employ to tell farmers to kill all their chickens when some of them get sick?
If only things were that simple.
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"If only Trump had known, when he was campaigning 6 months ago, that bird flu was going to get out of hand during the end of the Biden administration."
wtf?
Confirmations of Highly Pathogenic Avian Influenza in Commercial and Backyard Flocks
Last Modified: June 20, 2024
https://www.aphis.usda.gov/livestock-poultry-disease/avian/avian-influenza/hpai-detections/commercial-backyard-flocks
MDARD Director Tim Boring Signs ‘HPAI Risk Reduction Response Order’ Determination of Extraordinary Animal Health Emergency in Response to the Ongoing HPAI Outbreak in Michigan
May 01, 2024
https://www.michigan.gov/mdard/about/media/pressreleases/2024/05/01/mdard-director-signs-hpai-risk-reduction-response-order-for-hpai-outbreak-animal-health-emergency
The avian flu is hammering U.S. poultry farmers, leaving experts to ask: What has changed?
More than 40 million egg-laying hens have been culled in the U.S. alone, making it the worst outbreak on record.
Jan. 18, 2023, 3:57 PM EST
By Denise Chow and Evan Bush
The worst outbreak of avian influenza on record is threatening to stretch into a second year, as the U.S. races to contain a virus that has already caused some food prices to soar amid a shortage of eggs.
https://www.nbcnews.com/science/science-news/avian-bird-flu-egg-prices-rcna66273
Plant-based brand Just Egg is running an ad declaring 'Plants don't get the flu' as chicken egg shortage continues
Alex Bitter Jan 13, 2023, 5:08 PM CT
Avian flu has wiped out millions of chickens, causing egg shortages and higher prices on shelves.
https://www.businessinsider.com/just-egg-ad-plant-based-eggs-bird-flu-egg-shortage-2023-1
Avian influenza outbreaks reduced egg production, driving prices to record highs in 2022
by Adriana Valcu-Lisman
1/11/2023
http://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/charts-of-note/chart-detail?chartId=105576
Apr 28, 2023 — According to CNBC News, the egg shortage is caused by an ongoing outbreak of avian flu (H5N1),
Updated Jan. 28 2025,
https://www.greenmatters.com/news/bird-flu-egg-shortage
Bird flu outbreak is driving up egg prices — again
moneywatch
By Khristopher J. Brooks
Edited By Alain Sherter
April 24, 2024 / 4:29 PM EDT / CBS News
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bird-flu-outbreak-egg-prices-2024/
Bird flu discovered in U.S. dairy cows is ‘disturbing’
Scientist who tracks infections on cattle farms discusses implications of recently announced virus detections
26 Mar 20246:25 PM
https://www.science.org/content/article/bird-flu-discovered-u-s-dairy-cows-disturbing
How could Trump have known?
Jan 31, 2025 from PBS
"As the virus kept spreading throughout the summer, USDA senior official Eric Deeble said at a press briefing, “The response is adequate.”
The USDA, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, and the Food and Drug Administration presented a united front at these briefings, calling it a “One Health” approach. In reality, agriculture agencies took the lead.
This was explicit in an email from a local health department in Colorado to the county’s commissioners. “The State is treating this primarily as an agriculture issue (rightly so) and the public health part is secondary,” wrote Jason Chessher, public health director in Weld County, Colorado.
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/how-america-lost-control-of-the-bird-flu-and-raised-the-risk-of-another-pandemic
March 3, 2025
"In the U.S., we have never seen this many H5 cases, ever. And we just had our first death,” said Seema Lakdawala, co-director of the Center for Transmission of Airborne Pathogens at Emory University.
Depending on whom you ask in public health, the federal government’s response to the outbreak so far has been “mixed,” “disappointing,” “reactive” and “inadequate.”
https://www.marketplace.org/2025/03/03/bird-flu-is-spreading-on-farms-whats-being-done-to-prevent-it/
Feb 2, 2025
On the frontline against bird flu, egg farmers fear they're losing the battle
https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/02/02/nx-s1-5282389/avian-bird-flu-eggs-prices-cull-usda-michigan-poultry-influenza-farmer-vaccination-h5n1
Yes, bird flu has been an issue since 2022 and up until recently it's been fairly well addressed.
Yet somehow you knew during the 2024 campaign season that, according to some experts, the Biden administration response would be inadequate and post-election bird flu would be the worst since 2022.
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So are we killing too many chickens or not enough? Hard to tell what people here are arguing for.
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So are we killing too many chickens or not enough? Hard to tell what people here are arguing for.
You can save some of the chickens all of the time but you can't save all of the chickens some of the time.
And a stitch in time saves 9.
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Hindsight is 50/50
2 1 out of 3 times.
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So are we killing too many chickens or not enough? Hard to tell what people here are arguing for.
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Just spent 8 years watching the other side blame Trump for literally everything. You’re still blaming him for Ukraine and the immigration crisis. Definitely isn’t a phenomenon that is confined to Republicans.
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Blaming the prior guy is as American as apple pie
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Blaming the prior guy is as American as apple pie
Ed Zachary
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Hindsight is 50/50 2 1 out of 3 times.
I like it.
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Not getting Twitter/X up and running apparently.
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I'm willing to blame Biden for everything up to last Friday's Purdue game.
Trump owns today's stock market crash.
As for Elon Musk, out another 30 billion today. SAD
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I'm willing to blame Biden for everything up to last Friday's Purdue game.
Trump owns today's stock market crash.
As for Elon Musk, out another 30 billion today. SAD
We need the calming words of Larry Kudlow.
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We need the calming words of Larry Kudlow.
Tired: The market can remain irrational longer than you can remain liquid
Wired: Trump can remain irrational longer than the market
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Just guessing here. Seems like any new CEO with this kind of unnecessary overhead would be shit-canned pretty quickly. Oh wait a minute, they really don't care about saving the taxpayers $.
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Musk vs Kelly?
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If only things were that simple.
They are in a Libertarian’s world.
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As someone said in the comments, “The world needs more Sagans and less Musks.” Totally agree!
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DEke2zfiV-P/?igsh=MWN1bnBrNWQ1ZzY1Mg==
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fewer
So the comment is wrong in 2 ways.
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fewer
So the comment is wrong in 2 ways.
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That's a good one, Tempo!
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He's selling Trump a Tesla.
Has Judge Judy bought one yet?
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Better not protest against Tesla or risk being labeled a domestic terrorist. And no, that’s not a joke.
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fewer
So the comment is wrong in 2 ways.
more or fewer right
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more or fewer right
Correct
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQJL3htsDyQ
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So it turns out this woman does a very efficient and well-run press conference regularly where they tell the press exactly what the administration is doing. In fact, she addresses a lot of questions and misconceptions that have been posted here today. 🤯
https://youtu.be/bDXzJpgcOks
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I did enjoy her telling the media that people should use the Biden CBP One app to self deport so they won't be included in fun videos.
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I did enjoy her telling the media that people should use the Biden CBP One app to self deport so they won't be included in fun videos.
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I also loved that.
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Suh-prize!
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lol the richest man on earth is probably the last person we should worry about trying to line his pockets. In fact it’s the exact opposite—he stood to lose more than anyone if we had stayed the course we were on.
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So it turns out this woman does a very efficient and well-run press conference regularly where they tell the press exactly what the administration is doing. In fact, she addresses a lot of questions and misconceptions that have been posted here today. 🤯
https://youtu.be/bDXzJpgcOks
the only post with her on it on this forum should be Jobu saying "I'd do her"
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lol the richest man on earth is probably the last person we should worry about trying to line his pockets. In fact it’s the exact opposite—he stood to lose more than anyone if we had stayed the course we were on.
uh, we "changed course" and the guy has lost 150 billion
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uh, we "changed course" and the guy has lost 150 billion
He’s made it clear it’s genuinely not about money for him, I guess some people just can’t grasp the concept of putting the country before himself.
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Musk bringing the astronauts home, as promised.
https://apple.news/ALEifjcG6ShO1KONeHQwXVg
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He’s made it clear it’s genuinely not about money for him, I guess some people just can’t grasp the concept of putting the country before himself.
Sure. It's about the free sovereign cities and the concept of oligarchy is general. That he neutralizes two government entities that were investigating his companies is just a convenient side effect of cleaning up waste, fraud, and abuse. Next up, FAA cancels Verizon's contract and awards it to Starlink, but no self dealing there. None at all.
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Yeah, except that didn’t actually happen.
Literally fear porn/fantasy for all the folks completely blinded by hatred for Elon Musk because he sided with Trump/MAGA and anything they do is The Worst Thing Ever Done.
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Yeah, except that didn’t actually happen.
Literally fear porn/fantasy for all the folks completely blinded by hatred for Elon Musk because he sided with Trump/MAGA and anything they do is The Worst Thing Ever Done.
He did say, next up ...
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Yeah, except that didn’t actually happen.
Not yet. Coming soon.
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He’s made it clear it’s genuinely not about money for him, I guess some people just can’t grasp the concept of putting the country before himself.
nobody moves the goalpost like Custard. You should apply for a post in the Trump administration.
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Musk bringing the astronauts home, as promised.
https://apple.news/ALEifjcG6ShO1KONeHQwXVg
Well, it was his job, SpaceX got 100 million for the mission. For Musk "doing his job" is some sort of magnanimous gesture. If he had done the flight for free, you might have a point.
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Yeah, except that didn’t actually happen.
Literally fear porn/fantasy for all the folks completely blinded by hatred for Elon Musk because he sided with Trump/MAGA and anything they do is The Worst Thing Ever Done.
I'm just afraid of him because combining his moderately high functioning autism, heavy drug use, and a ton of money isn't exactly a recipe for good things.
Amusing that he wants to dismantle the Department of Education which will severely curtail funding for kids who need IEPs - e.g. children with autism.
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the only post with her on it on this forum should be Jobu saying "I'd do her"
I would
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I would
The only problem is she would start talking and ruin it
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The only problem is she would start talking and ruin it
Jobu's kit includes a set of noise cancelling headphones
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Jobu's kit includes a set of noise cancelling headphones
And a ballgag
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I'm just afraid of him because combining his moderately high functioning autism, heavy drug use, and a ton of money isn't exactly a recipe for good things.
Amusing that he wants to dismantle the Department of Education which will severely curtail funding for kids who need IEPs - e.g. children with autism.
Except no one really knows that, because it would then be a state issue and up to states to decide how to spend money on kids who need IEPs. Just like how America was going to be the real life Handmaid’s
Tale once Roe v Wade was overturned and power sent back to the states, but abortions are actually up.
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Except no one really knows that, because it would then be a state issue and up to states to decide how to spend money on kids who need IEPs. Just like how America was going to be the real life Handmaid’s
Tale once Roe v Wade was overturned and power sent back to the states, but abortions are actually up.
first off, now there will be no money at all. And if your point is that some states *won't* spend money on kids with IEPs now that they are no longer under the yoke of the Feds, then my original point stands based on your rebuttal.
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Just like how America was going to be the real life Handmaid’s
Tale once Roe v Wade was overturned and power sent back to the states, but abortions are actually up.
Funny things happen when you reduce access to contraception.
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first off, now there will be no money at all. And if your point is that some states *won't* spend money on kids with IEPs now that they are no longer under the yoke of the Feds, then my original point stands based on your rebuttal.
Even plenty of people on the left are dubious about the real value of the Dept of Education. It’s basically a laundering scheme that soaks up federal money and then disburses pennies on the dollar to a failing education system. One that used to be measurably better before the Dept of Education even existed.
Maybe we should spend the money trying to find out why 1 in 36 kids is autistic, and growing year over year instead of slapping bandaids on the problem by overspending on special ipad apps.
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Maybe we should spend the money trying to find out why 1 in 36 kids is autistic, and growing year over year instead of slapping bandaids on the problem by overspending on special ipad apps.
Can't do that. It's because of all the toxics that big corporations put into our food and water supply, but they are donors so let's put a guy in charge of HHS who will claim it's the measles vaccines.
Autism is not a curable condition. If you pull funding for support of people with autism trying to figure out how to make autism not happen, you throw the people with autism off the cliff.
I know a few people who have children who are non-verbal autistic. Like - the Rainman character was high functioning compared to their kids. Your concept won't change that but make their very difficult lives even worse.
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As it stands right now there is no cutback in funding to these programs. Should it be abolished by congress, which seems unlikely, there are already plans in place to redistribute the funds back to the states as block grants. Keep in mind these specific federal funds allocated to these programs you’re talking about only amount to like 12% of the total funds allocated towards them. Not talking a total lack of funding here.
The hand wringers say that those will get misused because they’ll lack federal oversight (hehe) but I’m confident the state legislators and education folks can figure it out just like they did pre-1979.
The hand wringers also don’t know how funds will get disbursed with only 2200 people on staff at the Dept. Computers have been doing payroll for decades, even without AI.
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As it stands right now there is no cutback in funding to these programs. Should it be abolished by congress, which seems unlikely, there are already plans in place to redistribute the funds back to the states as block grants.
So much for reducing government spending.
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The Department / Bureau / Office of Education has existed in some form since 1867. From 1953 to 1979 it was part of the Department of Health, Education, & Welfare. An Act of Congress on 1979 separated it into the DoE and HHS.
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Just took my first Waymo ride today - they've been rolling around MV for a few months. Freaky but pretty nice. Sorry Elon and Custard.
We just announced an autonomous vehicle partnership with GM today. Basically to get this to work, you need to be a monster software company - us or Google. Sorry Elon.
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Musk bringing the astronauts home, as promised.
https://apple.news/ALEifjcG6ShO1KONeHQwXVg
And an on time arrival.
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And an on time arrival.
Wow.
This is super amazing. He's surpassed NASA! All those government goldbrickers were able to do was put 6 landers on the moon. With humans. And get them home. Using 60's technology. Musk is a fucking genius.
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lol the richest man on earth is probably the last person we should worry about trying to line his pockets. In fact it’s the exact opposite—he stood to lose more than anyone if we had stayed the course we were on.
He’s not looking for more pocket money. He wants billions and billions for his vanity projects.
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Thoughts, Custard?
https://x.com/fiercefreckled/status/1902099715174650183?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02.13_fact_sheet_re_musk_investigations.pdf
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Thoughts, Custard?
https://x.com/fiercefreckled/status/1902099715174650183?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I mean, that’s just one person saying something they think is happening, with virtually no evidence.
Here’s the first comment, which is at least somewhat fact based:
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I have watched almost 10 years of insane fruitless witch hunts against Trump at this point. I didn’t even vote for the guy the first two times around. The stuff the Democrats and establishment have done actually turned me towards him, not further away.
TL;DR:
No, I don’t think that Trump and Musk are gutting parts of the federal government to shut down investigations against them, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they were.
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https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2025.02.13_fact_sheet_re_musk_investigations.pdf
"Just one person with virtually no evidence?" That's why I included the 2nd link.
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https://gizmodo.com/elon-musks-enemy-usaid-was-investigating-starlink-over-its-contracts-in-ukraine-2000559365
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From your own, obviously slanted, article:
The Lever reported Tuesday that USAID’s inspector general was in the process of investigating its own public-private partnership between Musk’s Starlink and the Ukrainian government at the time that the billionaire’s DOGE crippled the agency. Publicly available information about that probe is still online. An announcement from last May reads: “The USAID Office of Inspector General, Inspections and Evaluations Division, is initiating an inspection of USAID’s oversight of Starlink satellite terminals provided to the Government of Ukraine. Our objectives are to determine how (1) the Government of Ukraine used the USAID-provided Starlink terminals, and (2) USAID monitored the Government of Ukraine’s use of USAID-provided Starlink terminals.”
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So the inspection began when Musk was just a Tesla, SpaceX and Starlink guy and was centered on how the Ukraine government was using Starlink and how USAID was monitoring usage ?
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From your own, obviously slanted, article:
You beat me to it. LOL
This Gizmodo ?
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How about the incessant investigations into HRC that turned up nothing at all? No indictments. Nothing. Did that push you toward her?
Trump was found liable for sexual assault.
A CEO of one of his companies did time for tax evasion?
He was convicted of multiple counts for concealing hush money bribes as legal expenses.
He was indicted on several counts related to election fraud, Jan 6, and stealing classified documents. Ironically, he even kept classified documents in a bathroom.
There was more.
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Convictions are meaningless. We want mostly baseless accusations!
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You beat me to it. LOL
This Gizmodo ?
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I'd be curious as to when, if ever, Mn cited a source that wasn't right-leaning.
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You beat me to it. LOL
This Gizmodo ?
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Link?
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Overall, we rate Gizmodo Left Biased based on editorial positions that almost always favor the left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.
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Bias Rating: LEFT
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gizmodo/
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Overall, we rate Gizmodo Left Biased based on editorial positions that almost always favor the left and High for factual reporting due to proper sourcing and a clean fact check record.
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/gizmodo/
And owned by Hulk Hogan, a definite commie.
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'Elon Musk’s companies have repeatedly run afoul of federal worker safety rules and other labor laws. Now, Musk’s so-called Department of Government Efficiency team has set its sights on the Department of Labor tasked with enforcing those rules."
https://www.eenews.net/articles/tesla-has-beef-with-the-labor-department-and-its-doges-next-target/
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I'd be curious as to when, if ever, Mn cited a source that wasn't right-leaning.
How about this in this thread from a couple of hours ago ?
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How about the incessant investigations into HRC that turned up nothing at all? No indictments. Nothing. Did that push you toward her?
Trump was found liable for sexual assault.
A CEO of one of his companies did time for tax evasion?
He was convicted of multiple counts for concealing hush money bribes as legal expenses.
He was indicted on several counts related to election fraud, Jan 6, and stealing classified documents. Ironically, he even kept classified documents in a bathroom.
There was more.
Hillary wasn’t around long enough I suppose.
I don’t believe Trump is liable for the actions of each of his employees.
You present the Trump legal stuff like it was in any way good faith prosecution. The hush money trial was over the top political, and he was tried by a jury of political enemies. Would never have happened if he weren’t planning to run for President again.
He spent most of his life as a Democrat, was thought pretty highly of by many on the left, and didn’t have much for legal issues until he ran for President as a Republican. Tulsi, RFK, and especially Elon have gotten the same treatment.
Former Democrats fled the sinking ship, are now in charge of the US, and current loser Democrats are big mad about it because they’re coming after their cash cows and sacred institutions. OF COURSE they’re going to try to get them thrown in jail!
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Oh Jesus, this guy thinks Trump was framed. Yep, definite “moderate!”
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bottom line
This shithead, built a pretty decent Electric Car company, and is now ceding the entire future of that market to the Chinese by destroying his brand with his neurodivergent weirdness.
He's a pox. Fuck him.
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I’ll give Murph AOTC credit, he actually turned on Elon before he went MAGA.
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He spent most of his life as a Democrat, was thought pretty highly of by many on the left, and didn’t have much for legal issues until he ran for President as a Republican. Tulsi, RFK, and especially Elon have gotten the same treatment.
The left saw through the BS and recognized that Trump, Musk, RFK Jr and Tulsi were “weirdos” long before they changed political stripes.
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I don’t believe Trump is liable for the actions of each of his employees.
Pretty convenient way to dodge the fact his hiring record has been epic in its ineptitude
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I’ll give Murph AOTC credit, he actually turned on Elon before he went MAGA.
Waste fraud and abuse? This dude wants the government to pay him to "solve traffic" by digging tunnels underground.
Adding freeway lanes never works. Adding freeway lanes that first require you to take an elevator with one vehicle capacity to get to the lane... surely that will work!
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Tesla Investor Ross Gerber: “It's time for somebody to run Tesla. The business has been neglected for too long. There are too many important things Tesla is doing, so either Elon should come back to Tesla and be the CEO of Tesla and give up his other jobs or he should focus on the government and keep doing what he is doing but find a suitable CEO of Tesla."
https://news.sky.com/story/tesla-investor-calls-for-elon-musk-to-step-down-as-boss-13331499
Elon needs to send stockholders five bullet points about what he’s done for the company last week by midnight or be considered to have resigned.
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Good one alum!
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Elon needs to send stockholders five bullet points about what he’s done for the company last week by midnight or be considered to have resigned.
1) Saving the world
2) See #1
3) See #2
4) See #3
5) Knocked up a new baby momma. To save the world
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He’s recalling the Cybertruck for the 8th time.
https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a64245325/tesla-cybertruck-loose-steel-body-part-recall/
https://apnews.com/article/cybertruck-recall-tesla-elon-musk-nhtsa-8c517e21aa1119d74b9db39f6aca01b7
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Doge takeover of social security seemed ‘based on myth’, says ex-senior official
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/10/elon-musk-doge-social-security
At various times Doge has reportedly cited elderly people well over 100, people with no SSN, and children getting benefits. Also, multiple people getting benefits with the same number.
Most of this just shows that Elon Musks weren't properly trained for the task.
Previously it was thought the old people issue had to do with outdated computers. Apparently, that might be part of it.
Mainly, it seems SSA maintains a full list of everyone who has or ever had a SSN. When someone does, a death date is entered. This moves them.to.a deceased list.
DOGE obtained a list of everyone with an active number, a number without a date of death. Note this would not necessarily mean they are currently, have ever been, or will ever be receiving benefits. This is one of things Doge failed to grasp.
This included a number of people, mostly born before 1920, with no recorded date of death. DOGE mistakenly believed benefits were still be payed on all those numbers. It appears SSA was notified these people had died, but for whatever reason, the date of death was never recorded in the electronic data base.
The multiple people receiving benefits originating from one number is common. It has to with family and survivor benefits. M
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If anyone is interested, here are 15 minutes of the 30 that Bret Baier spent with the DOGE team.
There are no 20 year olds in the group.
https://x.com/i/status/1905385367710073143
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If anyone is interested, here are 15 minutes of the 30 that Bret Baier spent with the DOGE team.
There are no 20 year olds in the group.
https://x.com/i/status/1905385367710073143
"The interview did not include some of the most-talked-about DOGE staffers, such as one 19-year-old who has gone by the nickname “Big Balls.”'
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Musk managed to get xAI to buy X/twitter, basically bailing himself out at the expense of his equity investors
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Musk managed to get xAI to buy X/twitter, basically bailing himself out at the expense of his equity investors
And you people say the guy is an idiot. Restoring free speech to social media on someone else’s dime is 4-D chess. 🤯
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And you people say the guy is an idiot. Restoring free speech to social media on someone else’s dime is 4-D chess. 🤯
many of your dimes are involved. Maybe you're the idiot
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Musk was apparently shocked to discover non-citizens are receiving social security numbers. Is he really this ignorant? Or does he know most red hats are?
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On Wisconsin! Will Musk stop payment on those $1 million checks?
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Musk was apparently shocked to discover non-citizens are receiving social security numbers. Is he really this ignorant? Or does he know most red hats are?
He presumably had a SSN in the period before he became a citizen. He's not ignorant. His brain is just broken.
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Musk was apparently shocked to discover non-citizens are receiving social security numbers. Is he really this ignorant? Or does he know most red hats are?
It’s just spin, Ray.
"My family are immigrants. I'm pro-legal immigration. This is about America and its future," Gracias said.
Gracias blamed the Biden administration for this and said undocumented immigrants who came at the US border received SSNs without any rigorous checks. "Once they're in the country and apply for a work permit, the Social Security Administration automatically mails them an SSN—no interview, no ID required."
"This wasn't just incompetence. The Biden administration wasn't asleep at the switch. It was a large-scale effort to import as many illegals as possible, ultimately to reshape the US voting system and make it a permanent one-party state," Musk said.
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I dare Mn and Custard to get behind this guy.
You might as well piss on Ditka.
https://x.com/BrettFavre/status/1906823784339836992
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I dare Mn and Custard to get behind this guy.
You might as well piss on Ditka.
https://x.com/BrettFavre/status/1906823784339836992
Waiting to hear what Aaron Rodgers has to say.
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Waiting to hear what Aaron Rodgers has to say.
So are the Steeler apparently.
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Waiting to hear what Aaron Rodgers has to say.
His brain was immunized from brain worms by RFK Jr
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I am SHOCKED. SHOCKED!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14564071/Elon-Musk-steps-doge-trump-tesla.html
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG5XrcvHehg
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I am SHOCKED. SHOCKED!!!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14564071/Elon-Musk-steps-doge-trump-tesla.html
Illiniray said that’s a fake right wing news site.
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Overall, we rate Daily Mail Right Biased and Questionable due to numerous failed fact checks and poor information sourcing.
Detailed Report
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Bias Rating: RIGHT (6.6)
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https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-mail/
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Illiniray said that’s a fake right wing news site.
basically the same story as all the other news sites. But since that site is such a piece of shit it was the first non paywalled one I could find
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Illiniray said that’s a fake right wing news site.
Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
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Even a broken clock is right twice a day.
So he stepped down then right?
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Speaking of fake news sites, Newsmax stock down 180 points, 77%, today.
Bet those Trumpers are feeling the love tonight
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So he stepped down then right?
💯%
!!!!!!
https://x.com/i/status/1907775597897523536
;D ;D
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Politico has had a rough go of it lately.
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💯%
!!!!!!
https://x.com/i/status/1907775597897523536
;D ;D
The leftist tears are due to looking at the stock market. Leftists have this weird gene that right wing nut jobs don't have, they get said when their money gets set on fire.
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Politico has had a rough go of it lately.
At some point you would think they would get that they are being fed misinformation specifically so it can be knocked down and then they look like idiots. Lucy/football/Charlie Brown....
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At some point you would think they would get that they are being fed misinformation specifically so it can be knocked down and then they look like idiots. Lucy/football/Charlie Brown....
Send 'em a text. Include the meme too. They'll be flattered.
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Send 'em a text. Include the meme too. They'll be flattered.
It wouldn't hurt, but they won't understand it anyway. Maybe if I send it 3 to 5 times they will understand it, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.
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It wouldn't hurt, but they won't understand it anyway. Maybe if I send it 3 to 5 times they will understand it, but it wouldn't surprise me if they didn't.
Start your text off with ....
According to unnamed sources not authorized to speak on the subject .......
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3ddjejWbJU
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This could be the most epic earnings call ever
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Some lady keyed a Tesla in a suburb of Minneapolis. No charges filed.
A state employee keyed 6 different Teslas on different days. No charges will be filed if he satisfies his diversion program.
No big deal that at least 1 Tesla had what appeared to be a swastika.
The owner of 1 of the Teslas says she had some type of sticker on her vehicle that showed she was anti-Trump. That wasn't enough to protect her property.
Total damage is over $20,000.
His spree apparently started when his boss, Gov Walz, announced how happy he was to see Tesla stock drop in price
The state employee pension fund includes holdings in Tesla.
Musk is not the problem.
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Some lady keyed a Tesla in a suburb of Minneapolis. No charges filed.
A state employee keyed 6 different Teslas on different days. No charges will be filed if he satisfies his diversion program.
No big deal that at least 1 Tesla had what appeared to be a swastika.
The owner of 1 of the Teslas says she had some type of sticker on her vehicle that showed she was anti-Trump. That wasn't enough to protect her property.
Total damage is over $20,000.
His spree apparently started when his boss, Gov Walz, announced how happy he was to see Tesla stock drop in price
The state employee pension fund includes holdings in Tesla.
Musk is not the problem.
If only the guy had broken a window in the US Capitol, he could get a pardon instead of a diversion program.
Musk isn't the problem? They missed earnings by 2 billion, inventories are up by 10% over prior quarter, and the company guidance in the earnings call was basically "trust us. Also - robotaxis!"
Are you really this stupid - "The state employee pension fund includes holdings in Tesla." Tesla is in the S&P 500. For a large fund it's basically impossible to not have holdings in Tesla.
Walz is a putz. Where's the news here?
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His spree apparently started when his boss, Gov Walz...
Walz isn't his boss. This guy works in a state agency, not the governor's office. The only person who reports to Walz where he works is the director or head of the agency.
Sounds like he could be disciplined for violating the state's code of professional conduct. We will see.
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More concern over Teslas than the US Capital!
The owner should hire some local illegals to rough the state employee douche up!
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It's nice to see the support for the DHS fiscal policy analyst and for the county DA.
I wonder if he'll be tweeting "Look I'm famous!" again.
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If only the people who now care about Tesla cared about the ex-tradition of the peaceful transfer of political power.
Eh.
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If only the people who now care about Tesla cared about the ex-tradition of the peaceful transfer of political power.
Eh.
My mention of the Biden supporter who tweeted "Look I'm famous" after getting his professional employee union position and who keyed a half dozen Teslas has nothing to do with Teslas per se.
The county DA not filing felony charges may come across as tacit approval of the actions to some.
No one is above the law, you know.
The Jan6ers were charged. Some to the extent that SCOTUS forced removing those charges.
I don't remember your outcry over the Biden DOJ over charging and that they weren't following the law, processes and procedures.
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No one is above the law, you know.
The Jan6ers were pardoned.
Fixed.
Musk has promised that Tesla will be rolling out FSD robo taxis in Austin later this year. While it's highly likely that this is another pile of his bullshit, if Tesla does manage to get that roll out done, it will flop immediately. The cars only use cameras, as Musk proudly claims. If people are willing to key the Teslas owned by private persons, it won't take but a day for the cameras on those robo taxis to get spray painted so they shut down.
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My mention of the Biden supporter who tweeted "Look I'm famous" after getting his professional employee union position and who keyed a half dozen Teslas has nothing to do with Teslas per se.
The county DA not filing felony charges may come across as tacit approval of the actions to some.
No one is above the law, you know.
The Jan6ers were charged. Some to the extent that SCOTUS forced removing those charges.
I don't remember your outcry over the Biden DOJ over charging and that they weren't following the law, processes and procedures.
Because they were disrupting the peaceful transfer of power and assaulting police officers. They should have been hung as traitors to the USA.
And they should throw the book at the Tesla Keying Bureaucrat.
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Because they were disrupting the peaceful transfer of power and assaulting police officers. They should have been hung as traitors to the USA.
And they should throw the book at the Tesla Keying Bureaucrat.
Absolutely. Petty vandalism. Fine and community service.
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Fixed.
Musk has promised that Tesla will be rolling out FSD robo taxis in Austin later this year. While it's highly likely that this is another pile of his bullshit, if Tesla does manage to get that roll out done, it will flop immediately. The cars only use cameras, as Musk proudly claims. If people are willing to key the Teslas owned by private persons, it won't take but a day for the cameras on those robo taxis to get spray painted so they shut down.
ELMOCAB!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuKbd3C8zpk&list=RDNS4nnK-7voWZM&index=2
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/us/elon-musk-drugs-children-trump.html
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Ahhh yes unnamed sources familiar with the situation. Who could have guessed?
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He was "gesturing like a Nazi".
:D
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Ahhh yes unnamed sources familiar with the situation. Who could have guessed?
"Unnamed"
Joe Rogan.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Nael8xcSus
Elon Musk
https://www.axios.com/2025/05/30/trump-musk-doge-katamine-new-york-times
Musk in the past had said he was prescribed ketamine for mental health issues.
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He was "gesturing like a Nazi".
:D
So you're cool with his bag of drugs then?
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Ahhh yes unnamed sources familiar with the situation. Who could have guessed?
“Nearly seven-in-ten Americans (68%) say that an anonymous source in a story has at least some influence on whether they find that story credible (21% say a great deal of influence and 47% say some influence).”
https://ethicsandjournalism.org/resources/best-practices/best-practices-anonymous-sources/
It doesn't say what percentage say that an anon source in a story gives it zero credit.
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He was "gesturing like a Nazi".
:D
In case you missed it:
https://youtu.be/-VfYjPzj1Xw
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In case you missed it:
https://youtu.be/-VfYjPzj1Xw
Yeah we’ve all seen it, and we see what we want to see.
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Yeah we’ve all seen it, and we see what we want to see.
Meh.
We’ve all seen that guy in action. It’s not autism. It’s copious amounts of illegal or questionable substances. He’s higher than Don Jr and that’s saying a hell of a lot.
Delta House bonged the guy - “does too many drugs”
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I didn't see where the NYT writers referred to the daily medicine box as a bag of drugs.
3 for Sunday, 3 for Monday, 3 for Tuesday ....... and the next thing you know there's about 20 pills in his daily medicine box
;D
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They thought that no one could find it. They thought wrong.
I suppose the NYT could write about the "prohibited access" classification system that the FBI had. A system designed to hide information from Congress, the public, and defendants.
Hiding Brady material might be a big deal for "due process" and hiding exculpatory or incriminating evidence might be a big deal for Congress and the public.
Did Musk team members find it ? I have no idea, but the NYT article was written to serve a purpose.
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Apparently the Musk team found the government works more efficiently than thought.
https://www.fastcompany.com/91330297/doge-sahil-lavignia-gumroad
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Not sure if been mentioned, but it’s rumored he’s doing Stephen Miller’s wife.
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I didn't see where the NYT writers referred to the daily medicine box as a bag of drugs.
3 for Sunday, 3 for Monday, 3 for Tuesday ....... and the next thing you know there's about 20 pills in his daily medicine box
;D
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Mn = defending junkies is a match
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Awesome stuff
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-elon-musk-relationship-64773ad1?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAgR07COUErw5cXND5h7BA85UvJUzmsGs78tKzKqOzfkXkSWaWBz4JcaEAJYpR4%3D&gaa_ts=683e0c59&gaa_sig=nNsCjmpl0RflR3FcSa1zpCLQR_AoLfdhhiX-YxPCt9BlQX0MOwOQG_t16RHfkZsH92BIr-5nZQ3Rwf1H-U5vPA%3D%3D
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It's entirely possible that Musk isn't "on ketamine ffs".
But carry on.
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LOLOLOLOL
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From the mfr website about their FDA approved prescription drug .....
"SPRAVATO® is the only FDA-approved treatment used as monotherapy or in conjunction with an oral antidepressant for adults with treatment-resistant depression (MDD with inadequate response to at least 2 oral antidepressants of adequate dose and duration)"
Just as in SSRI therapy there can be issues that cause people to look for alternate therapies.
You have a problem with people looking for anti-depressant therapy ? Or is it just Musk ?
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I have a problem with his dishonesty.
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Saying he's used prescription ketamine in the past but no longer uses it is dishonest ?
If it was Prozac use in the past and he no longer takes it would be ok tho. Amiright ?
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Saying he's used prescription ketamine in the past but no longer uses it is dishonest ?
If it was Prozac use in the past and he no longer takes it would be ok tho. Amiright ?
"My tolerance (for Ketamine) is unlimited" definitely sounds like he was only using prescribed doses.
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It's entirely possible that Musk isn't "on ketamine ffs".
But carry on.
he meant "at that moment"
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Saying he's used prescription ketamine in the past but no longer uses it is dishonest ?
If it was Prozac use in the past and he no longer takes it would be ok tho. Amiright ?
For a guy who really wants to fight the war on drugs at the border, you seem to really be a fan of drug users
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"My tolerance (for Ketamine) is unlimited" definitely sounds like he was only using prescribed doses.
Or he may have reached maximum FDA approved dosing, and able to easily tolerate the dose, but not getting the satisfactory anti-depressant result.
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Or he may have reached maximum FDA approved dosing, and able to easily tolerate the dose, but not getting the satisfactory anti-depressant result.
You're really twisting yourself in knots trying to defend a guy who looks more incoherent every day. Who got a black eye "because I told my son to punch me in the face" a.k.a. I walked into a door in a drug induced stupor.
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Saying he's used prescription ketamine in the past but no longer uses it is dishonest ?
If it was Prozac use in the past and he no longer takes it would be ok tho. Amiright ?
maybe's he's actually off the drugs after all
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/06/03/musk-trump-budget-bill.html
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This one could send Mn over the edge!
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https://spectrumlocalnews.com/nc/triad/politics/2025/06/03/sen--elizabeth-warre-elon-musk-130-days-report?cid=share_clip
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This one could send Mn over the edge!
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Good one, Rookie. The apple is a nice touch.
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https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1930277574799675461?t=WErGOv4fIWaLvq1UYfUviQ&s=19
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https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1930277574799675461?t=WErGOv4fIWaLvq1UYfUviQ&s=19
He's a weather guy. Should be replaced by a hot chick for ratings purposes.
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I love how tempo doesn’t think musk does anything good for the planet or society when he probably does more than anyone. But his name isn’t on a hospital!
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I love how tempo doesn’t think musk does anything good for the planet or society when he probably does more than anyone. But his name isn’t on a hospital!
by planet you mean "Mars"
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I love how tempo doesn’t think musk does anything good for the planet or society when he probably does more than anyone. But his name isn’t on a hospital!
The dude has prevented a bunch of pollution due to Teslas. (Probably offset by all his crashing rockets though.) Meanwhile Tempo drives a gas guzzler for a living! But he is a First People person and can do to the environment what he wants.
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Reaction shot of Tempo's relative to this news....
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by planet you mean "Mars"
The survival of the human race is dependent on colonizing other planets and solar systems. Musk is leading the charge on the most important human endeavor possible.
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The survival of the human race is dependent on colonizing other planets and solar systems. Musk is leading the charge on the most important human endeavor possible.
you're snorting more ketamine than Elon
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He's a weather guy. Should be replaced by a hot chick for ratings purposes.
I thought you didn’t click on Twotter links.
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I love how tempo doesn’t think musk does anything good for the planet or society when he probably does more than anyone. But his name isn’t on a hospital!
When you’re worth $430 billion doing “some good” doesn’t quite cut it. Especially when you’re doing more harm than good.
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by planet you mean "Mars"
Yeah, he’s basically living out his Battlestar Gallactica fantasies. And getting a lot of taxpayer money to do it.
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The survival of the human race is dependent on colonizing other planets and solar systems. Musk is leading the charge on the most important human endeavor possible.
That’s probably centuries if not a thousand millennia in the future? What’s the big hurry? Ego?
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The dude has prevented a bunch of pollution due to Teslas. (Probably offset by all his crashing rockets though.) Meanwhile Tempo drives a gas guzzler for a living! But he is a First People person and can do to the environment what he wants.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yWz4LmqJ/native-american-indian.gif) (https://postimg.cc/yWz4LmqJ)
Reaction shot of Tempo's relative to this news....
How do you know I drive a gas guzzler?
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I thought you didn’t click on Twotter links.
I did this once. But did contemplate the ramifications of that action before so doing.
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How do you know I drive a gas guzzler?
If it isn't a Hybrid or Electric, it is a gas guzzler.
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The survival of the human race is dependent on colonizing other planets and solar systems. Musk is leading the charge on the most important human endeavor possible.
I would agree to make Musk the Emperor of Mars on the condition that he takes up permanent residence there.
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That’s probably centuries if not a thousand millennia in the future? What’s the big hurry? Ego?
But what if we don’t? I’ve seen you say here that the earth is dying because of climate change? Which is it?
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When you’re worth $430 billion doing “some good” doesn’t quite cut it. Especially when you’re doing more harm than good.
Name one individual who is doing more actual good for humanity than Musk.
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If it isn't a Hybrid or Electric, it is a gas guzzler.
I’m driving a hybrid.
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Name one individual who is doing more actual good for humanity than Musk.
Tempo. He put 10 cents into the Ronald McDonald House jar at McDonalds, which puts him 10 cents ahead of Musk
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Name one individual who is doing more actual good for humanity than Musk.
Man, where to start...
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But what if we don’t? I’ve seen you say here that the earth is dying because of climate change? Which is it?
So you want to protect the human race from the climate change you say is naturally occurring, cyclical, and not a threat to global existence? Which is it?
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Name one individual who is doing more actual good for humanity than Musk.
https://x.com/charise_lee/status/1930403317865426948?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I’m driving a hybrid.
When did you get it? I thought you had a regular car when you got stuck that one time you texted me.
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Tempo. He put 10 cents into the Ronald McDonald House jar at McDonalds, which puts him 10 cents ahead of Musk
That's a good one, Murph
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https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/1930277574799675461?t=WErGOv4fIWaLvq1UYfUviQ&s=19
I saw on the TV while at the gym that Steve Stone and Ozzie Guillen were studying and explaining the Doppler radar as the Sox game was delayed. Why can't this guy do it as well?
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It's just so sad when the kids fight
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article307965365.html
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This day came even sooner than I thought it would. Eventually, every relationship Trump has sours. Custard must be having a nervous breakdown trying to decide how to play this. I’m guessing he leans Elon.
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LOL
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You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain, or you become the villain, dope up on ketamine, get kicked out, and then get mad at the other villain
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You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain, or you become the villain, dope up on ketamine, get kicked out, and then get mad at the other villain
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This... is fucking awesome.
I can't keep track. Trump badmouths Elon, Elon says Trump would not have been elected without him, Trump plays back , Elon says the reason the Epstein files weren't released because Trump was in them, Trump says we should shut down all contracts with Elon, Elon says he's gonna decommission the Dragon X spaceship.
OK, Mn - I really want your hot take on this one...
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Musk is definitely Alien and Trump is undoubtedly Predator.
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Musk is definitely Alien and Trump is undoubtedly Predator.
By that you mean Stitch and the little aliens from Toy Story?
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https://x.com/kylekulinski/status/1930725302092619916?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Looks like I picked a bad week to quit eating popcorn.
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Looks like I picked a bad week to quit eating popcorn.
We said that the tariffs would empty the store shelves. We didn't think it would be the popcorn aisle
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Looks like I picked a bad week to quit eating popcorn.
Good thing you didn't stop sniffing glue!
https://youtu.be/lm8fYf53SMg?si=I-1iPEx_y1eHmW2B
Don't ask me why it doesn't preview....
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Just running interference. A psyop if you will.
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Just running interference. A psyop if you will.
The timing is curious isnt it
https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-856689
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The timing is curious isnt it
https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-856689
Would think they could have done this earlier
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Very quiet here today!
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Where’s Mn?
https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AzM9aDcer/?mibextid=wwXIfr
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Very quiet here today!
Think everyone finally realized I’m right and let it go.
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Very quiet here today!
Daddy and Daddy were fighting. This can end tonight or never. It's hard to predict either way.
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quick foto app (https://nl.imgbb.com/)
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It's good that these two drug addicts are not united and squabbling. The fundamental depravity and danger is that either is near the levers of government.
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Daddy and Daddy were fighting. This can end tonight or never. It's hard to predict either way.
Mn conspicuously absent.
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Mn conspicuously absent.
Been busy.
I did see this tho.
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Been busy.
I did see this tho.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8Pw76K8Y/Screenshot-20250607-054322-Chrome.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
So what’s your take on Daddy and Daddy fighting?
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So what’s your take on Daddy and Daddy fighting?
From what I can gather this morning....
One is a businessman who doesn't understand reconciliation bills vs budget bills. The other is trying to work within government processes with 500+ people in Congress looking out for their best interests.
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So what’s your take on Daddy and Daddy fighting?
What's your take on Schumer and 'we're all going to die' ?
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What's your take on Schumer and 'we're all going to die' ?
So you’re pleased that millions will lose healthcare and access to necessary food? You’re focused on Chuck Schumer after what we just saw from Trump and Musk? You really are a head in the sander.
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So you’re pleased that millions will lose healthcare and access to necessary food? You’re focused on Chuck Schumer after what we just saw from Trump and Musk? You really are a head in the sander.
Only a "cunt" gets criticized for saying we're all going to die. Amiright ?
What do you have against women ?
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Tempo hates women or only "women"?
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Only a "cunt" gets criticized for saying we're all going to die. Amiright ?
What do you have against women ?
You are flailing badly today.
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You are flailing badly today.
Is that not what happened ?
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You seriously don’t understand the difference between a Senator mocking the fact that people will die vs another actively trying to prevent it? Are you really this dense?
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You seriously don’t understand the difference between a Senator mocking the fact that people will die vs another actively trying to prevent it? Are you really this dense?
Who are these people who are going to die ?
Illinois doesn't seem to think they exist.
"Illinois legislators unveil $55.2 billion spending plan that cuts immigrant health care program"
A Chicago Sun Times headline.
Minnesota is doing the same.
Thanks, President Autopen
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“He did not include the HBIA (Health Benefits for Immigrant Adults) program in the budget,” Sims said. “But again, that’s in recognition of the challenges that we’re seeing coming out of Washington and the devastating effects that those proposals are having on our state and states across the country.”
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From what I can gather this morning....
One is a businessman who doesn't understand reconciliation bills vs budget bills. The other is trying to work within government processes with 500+ people in Congress looking out for their best interests.
"The other is trying to work within government processes"
If true, then why all the "emergency declarations" to evade government processes?
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What's your take on Schumer and 'we're all going to die' ?
Ernst was interrupted, and that's poor form.
The full quote was "We're all gonna die. Poor people should just die sooner!"
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Turns out if you tell a fascist to drive themselves over a cliff on X they will suspend your privileges 12 hours.
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Turns out if you tell a fascist to drive themselves over a cliff on X they will suspend your privileges 12 hours.
And yet you will keep helping Musk financially.
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And yet you will keep helping Musk financially.
Yep, if I delete my account, he’s destined for the poor house!
There’s a 0% chance all of your habits don’t contribute to Republicans and even Trump
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Yep, if I delete my account, he’s destined for the poor house!
There’s a 0% chance all of your habits don’t contribute to Republicans and even Trump
I'm not the self righteous one though
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I'm not the self righteous one though
Hahahahahahahahahaha
Mr. “I’d never listen to the Score because insurrection.”
Hahahahahahahahahaha listen to this guy.
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Hahahahahahahahahaha
Mr. “I’d never listen to the Score because insurrection.”
Hahahahahahahahahaha listen to this guy.
You could at least try and get it right.. I don't listen to The Score because they support the Cub and the Ricketts use The Score money to support Trump.
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You could at least try and get it right.. I don't listen to The Score because they support the Cub and the Ricketts use The Score money to support Trump.
You’ve literally mentioned the score and the insurrection in the same breath. Probably multiple times. Again, Ricketts doesn’t even own the score. Do you think those hockey podcast you’re listening to? Don’t have people donating to Republican causes GAB
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I’m sure the producer ofevery product in your house donates only to Democrats.
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I'm not sure that the CCP donates only to Dems but then again, maybe they do.
Thanks, Joe
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You’ve literally mentioned the score and the insurrection in the same breath. Probably multiple times. Again, Ricketts doesn’t even own the score. Do you think those hockey podcast you’re listening to? Don’t have people donating to Republican causes GAB
I'm not the one calling for Musk to drive off a cliff while financially supporting him.... And Trump..
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I'm not the one calling for Musk to drive off a cliff while financially supporting him.... And Trump..
#flailing
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#flailing
Donald Trump thanks you for your part in rasing the over $288m Musk and the Ricketts spent in support of his election.
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Donald Trump thanks you for your part in rasing the over $288m Musk and the Ricketts spent in support of his election.
Yep, my listening to The Score makes Donald Trump possible. You are beyond delusional.
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Yep, my listening to The Score makes Donald Trump possible. You are beyond delusional.
Talk about delusional. You are feeding the guy who spent $288m to elect a person you abhor.
There is a difference between necessities, such as buying gasoline, chicken, food, and inconsequentials. The Twotter and The Score are not necessities. You have made the decision to give money to those non-necessity businesses supporting Trump. Actions speak louder than Twotter posts. Donald J Trump thanks you for your support for his election.
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Talk about delusional. You are feeding the guy who spent $288m to elect a person you abhor.
There is a difference between necessities, such as buying gasoline, chicken, food, and inconsequentials. The Twotter and The Score are not necessities. You have made the decision to give money to those non-necessity businesses supporting Trump. Actions speak louder than Twotter posts. Donald J Trump thanks you for your support for his election.
How much money do you think I put into his pocket? I don’t even listen to Cubs games. I’m pretty sure that type of stuff matters.
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You know all these different programs have their own ratings right? You know this, right?
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You are delusional to think that my listening to the score enables the Trump administration in any way
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I could piss into the ocean and it would have the same effect
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How much money do you think I put into his pocket? I don’t even listen to Cubs games. I’m pretty sure that type of stuff matters.
You are on The Twotter all the time. You are making him money. Somehow. Part of it wound up in Trump's pocket
You listen to The Score. They get paid by advertisers based on how many listeners they have. They then take that money and give a chunk to the Cub, who take that money and give it to Trump..
That's how this works. You realize that, right?
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You know all these different programs have their own ratings right? You know this, right?
You really do not know how this works. Amazing.
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I could piss into the ocean and it would have the same effect
Trump gets no money from you pissing in the ocean. So it does not have the same effect.
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You are delusional to think that my listening to the score enables the Trump administration in any way
You financially supported him. That is how you enabled him to win.
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Trump gets no money from you pissing in the ocean. So it does not have the same effect.
😂😂😂
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Lol what a delusional motherfucker.
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Lol what a delusional motherfucker.
Says the delusional Progressive who actually helped elect Trump. Hope you are enjoying being back on the Twotter and supporting the Rickett family's spending their Score money on Republican causes.
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Says the delusional Progressive who actually helped elect Trump. Hope you are enjoying being back on the Twotter and supporting the Rickett family's spending their Score money on Republican causes.
Yeah yeah yeah, it’s my fault Trump exists. We know your schtick. Delusional.
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If only I had deleted my Twitter account and didn’t occasionally listen to The Score…Elon and Trump wouldn’t be a thing…my fault.
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You are on The Twotter all the time. You are making him money. Somehow. Part of it wound up in Trump's pocket
That's how this works. You realize that, right?
Truth be told, Musk probably loses 0.00000001 cents per tweet. It's not a money making entity. If everyone started tweeting nonstop and took the servers down, the added use of twitter would cost Musk a lot. For no return.
What Tempo does do by using the platform, is keep it alive, which has negative consequences. I'd love to see X go the way of the dodo. The best result would be that it becomes just a distributed public service announcement spot - keep the National Weather Service, NOAA, transit agencies, etc... on it. The only time I pull up twitter now is to get info like that. The crowd source feature is nice when there is a natural disaster, but otherwise, it's shit.
This is my primary "social media" outlet these days - and it's probably for the best.
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Truth be told, Musk probably loses 0.00000001 cents per tweet. It's not a money making entity. If everyone started tweeting nonstop and took the servers down, the added use of twitter would cost Musk a lot. For no return.
What Tempo does do by using the platform, is keep it alive which has negative consequences.
Me and 599,999,999 others.
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This is my primary "social media" outlet these days - and it's probably for the best.
I piss into the ocean, you piss into the wind.
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Yeah yeah yeah, it’s my fault Trump exists. We know your schtick. Delusional.
It is not your fault he exists. But you are not part of the solution. You are a hindrance to it.
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If only I had deleted my Twitter account and didn’t occasionally listen to The Score…Elon and Trump wouldn’t be a thing…my fault.
It would be a start. A revolution if you will.
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Truth be told, Musk probably loses 0.00000001 cents per tweet. It's not a money making entity. If everyone started tweeting nonstop and took the servers down, the added use of twitter would cost Musk a lot. For no return.
What Tempo does do by using the platform, is keep it alive, which has negative consequences. I'd love to see X go the way of the dodo. The best result would be that it becomes just a distributed public service announcement spot - keep the National Weather Service, NOAA, transit agencies, etc... on it. The only time I pull up twitter now is to get info like that. The crowd source feature is nice when there is a natural disaster, but otherwise, it's shit.
This is my primary "social media" outlet these days - and it's probably for the best.
All true. Tempo and his ilk provide the oxygen for the fire.
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I piss into the ocean, you piss into the wind.
#Flailing
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It would be a start. A revolution if you will.
probably changes nothing for Elon but Tempo's sanity would take an uptick, if he stopped replying to what are mostly AI bots anyway
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probably changes nothing for Elon but Tempo's sanity would take an uptick, if he stopped replying to what are mostly AI bots anyway
Good advice from Murph, Tempo. After all, he is or was, a _illionaire.
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It would be a start. A revolution if you will.
The day I delete my Twitter account will be written about in history books and sang about in chidren’s songs.
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probably changes nothing for Elon but Tempo's sanity would take an uptick, if he stopped replying to what are mostly AI bots anyway
Twitter isn’t a major contributor to my stress levels.
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The day I delete my Twitter account will be written about in history books and sang about in chidren’s songs.
Good one, Tempo!
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Twitter isn’t a major contributor to my stress levels.
Yes, because everyone gets banned on The Twotter for what they post!
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I told a fascist to go drive himself off a cliff. No biggie.
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I told a fascist to go drive himself off a cliff. No biggie.
You showed him who is boss while giving him more advertising dollars!
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Musk took over twitter and made it a free speech zone.
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Musk took over twitter and made it a free speech zone.
Now that is something that Custard voted for!
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You showed him who is boss while giving him more advertising dollars!
No, this was a random fascist.
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You showed him who is boss while giving him more advertising dollars!
Yeah my 1/8th of a penny from that comment really vaulted Musk up in the wealth rankings.
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Yeah my 1/8th of a penny from that comment really vaulted Musk up in the wealth rankings.
Your "feel good" moment must have been priceless.
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No, this was a random fascist.
Wait, so you got banned for telling some random dude to drive off a cliff?
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Your "feel good" moment must have been priceless.
Probably just as good as those moments when you feel like you’ve “gotcha” meed.
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Wait, so you got banned for telling some random dude to drive off a cliff?
Yes
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Yes
It wasn't even Elon? LOL.
Was it Hoge, at least?
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I feel like you have to be pretty fucking unhinged to get banned from Twitter
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I feel like you have to be pretty fucking unhinged to get banned from Twitter
Even this guy didn't get banned by the Twotter and he called for Elon's demise!
https://nypost.com/2025/06/10/world-news/leader-of-islamist-terror-group-calls-for-trump-assassination/
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I feel like you have to be pretty fucking unhinged to get banned from Twitter
Even if you occasionally open it to get live updates on something - at this point I think you're unhinged just if you post on twitter. Especially if you are responding to what are almost certainly bot accounts.
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X / Twitter is still sort of relevant for sports.
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X / Twitter is still sort of relevant for sports.
Nixon supporter supporting Elon/Trump!
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It wasn't even Elon? LOL.
Was it Hoge, at least?
Some rando fascist. I don’t recall whom.
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X / Twitter is still sort of relevant for sports.
Very.
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I feel like you have to be pretty fucking unhinged to get banned from Twitter
Apparently all you have to do is tell someone to drive themself off a cliff. I wasn’t banned, I was suspended for 12 hours.
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Even this guy didn't get banned by the Twotter and he called for Elon's demise!
https://nypost.com/2025/06/10/world-news/leader-of-islamist-terror-group-calls-for-trump-assassination/
Strange algorithm it seems.
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Very.
Without The Twotter we wouldnt have this strange hero worship of Justin Fields ... That alone should end the stupid thing
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What’s even stranger is that there are people who feel the need denigrate him at every turn.
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What’s even stranger is that there are people who feel the need denigrate him at every turn.
Because he sucked ass as a Bear yet was worshipped like Trump is by a bunch of idiots.
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Because he sucked ass as a Bear yet was worshipped like Trump is by a bunch of idiots.
Well he's with the Jets now, so he's basically a rookie again.
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Well he's with the Jets now, so he's basically a rookie again.
Yes, in his 5th year he is basically still a rookie.
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Yes, in his 5th year he is basically still a rookie.
Yep, just like Caleb. Basically a rookie again.
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Yep, just like Caleb. Basically a rookie again.
Yep, after four years and on his third team.
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Yep, after four years and on his third team.
Like Caleb, basically a rookie again.
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Like Caleb, basically a rookie again.
Yep, except he is on year 5 and team 3. But, yeah, basically a rookie again since he refuses coaching.
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Yep, except he is on year 5 and team 3. But, yeah, basically a rookie again since he refuses coaching.
Yep. Just like Caleb. A rookie all over again.
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Yep. Just like Caleb. A rookie all over again.
Yep, even in year 5. Hopefully Fields finally accepts coaching this year and someone helps Williams with film study and footwork!
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Yep, after four years and on his third team.
so you're saying he's Baker Mayfield...
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Yep, even in year 5. Hopefully Fields finally accepts coaching this year and someone helps Williams with film study and footwork!
They’re basically both rookies again.
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so you're saying he's Baker Mayfield...
Tampa is Baker’s 4th team. Get it right.
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so you're saying he's Baker Mayfield...
Could be, if he gets his act together
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They’re basically both rookies again.
Basically. One does have a lot more experience being a rookie, though. You could say he's flunked 4 times while the other guy flunked once.
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Could be, if he gets his act together
Let’s not pretend Justin Fields is, or ever will be an NFL quarterback.
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Let’s not pretend Justin Fields is, or ever will be an NFL quarterback.
Ok
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Elon has really cured the bot problem on Twotter.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NZ7ZkWN/IMG-1961.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HV99MzLf)
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Elon has really cured the bot problem on Twotter.
(https://i.postimg.cc/5NZ7ZkWN/IMG-1961.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HV99MzLf)
I remember when you mocked boycotts...
https://www.thestreet.com/retail/target-struggles-to-reverse-alarming-customer-trend-amid-boycotts
https://www.yahoo.com/news/coca-cola-reels-viral-video-104556283.html
Hmmmm...
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I don’t mock boycotts.
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I mock your bizarre fixation with The Score and the Twotter.
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I mock your bizarre fixation with The Score and the Twotter.
You said boycotting each of them was useless.
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You said boycotting each of them was useless.
More or less. But I am not against boycotts. Your boogeymen are not necessarily my boogeymen. Sure, one can make a case to boycott either. I don’t eat Chick fil A, but I’m sure they’re doing fine without my money.
I’m pretty confident The Score is not a major reason Donald Trump is in office (and Ricketts will still be a billionaire without my 2-4 hours a week of listening). And the Twotter, despite all its flaws, is still the most expansive site (by far) for journalism and diverse commentary; and it’s still the best place to mock fascists. BlueSkye I’m sure is a safe space, but I’m not looking for an echo chamber experience. My boycotting either of the above would change nothing. Doesn’t mean I’m anti-boycott. Boycott what makes you feel good, not because you think you’re going to take down a billionaire by not participating.
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Now if a boycott has real movement behind it, that can be effective. Such as the ones you cited. I’m pretty sure there’s maybe 5 people in Chicagoland boycotting The Score because of Ricketts. I can promise you more Sox fans are boycotting because of the Cubs than Ricketts. By a lot.
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Again, my boycott of Chick Fil A has not impacted them at all. But it makes me feel good.
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Again, my boycott of Chick Fil A has not impacted them at all. But it makes me feel good.
So stunning and brave
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So stunning and brave
Was not seeking your praise or approval.
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QAnon97 destroying Tempo
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Was not seeking your praise or approval.
hey man whatever makes you feel good
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QAnon97 destroying Tempo
I’m sure you think so.
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hey man whatever makes you feel good
Thanks! Did not seek your input or approval!
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hey man whatever makes you feel good
No mention of PAMan’s “stunning and brave” boycott of The Score? Oh, just me, huh? What a shocker. Some of you are so transparent it’s comical.
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No mention of PAMan’s “stunning and brave” boycott of The Score? Oh, just me, huh? What a shocker. Some of you are so transparent it’s comical.
go to bed
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No mention of PAMan’s “stunning and brave” boycott of The Score? Oh, just me, huh? What a shocker. Some of you are so transparent it’s comical.
I haven't claimed to be a hero, but I guess I am
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Why bother boycotting?
https://fortune.com/2025/06/13/target-foot-traffic-dei-reputation/
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I haven't claimed to be a hero, but I guess I am
I claimed to be a hero? When did I do this?
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Why bother boycotting?
https://fortune.com/2025/06/13/target-foot-traffic-dei-reputation/
Again, no one, especially me, ragged on boycotting.
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It’s your hilarious fixation with The Score and the Twotter that are so funny. Especially, The Score, a local SPORTS station not even owned by Ricketts.
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I claimed to be a hero? When did I do this?
I never said you did. I am now claiming hero status for my boycotts
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I never said you did. I am now claiming hero status for my boycotts
Hope that works out nicely for you.
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Hope that works out nicely for you.
I need a statue in my honor. Will you erect a statue of me?
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I need a statue in my honor. Will you erect a statue of me?
Sure, I’ll put it right next to the JFC shrine.
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Sure, I’ll put it right next to the JFC shrine.
Wow. That would be an honor!
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Would the “Elon isn’t a Nazi” faction care to address this?
https://x.com/jimstewartson/status/2010503602624921601?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Maybe we need to start looking at who our “allies” are…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2010672639015350351?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Also, what party here in the U.S. censored social media during COVID?! 🤔
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Maybe we need to start looking at who our “allies” are…
https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2010672639015350351?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Also, what party here in the U.S. censored social media during COVID?! 🤔
If you think that's bad, scroll down a 10-15 posts
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https://x.com/cattardslim/status/2010633466715447802?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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(https://i.postimg.cc/d3gp3ckG/IMG-4944.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rRCQZb9p)
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Totally NOT a Nazi salute! Full extension and strain on his face. LOL everyone does this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/xjk0f0Bj/IMG-4945.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Even Musk’s own research tool says he’s the #1 spreader of disinformation on X. Look who’s number 2!
(https://i.postimg.cc/C5bXR6jN/IMG-4946.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BPQMyp7L)
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And 3!
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Totally NOT a Nazi salute! Full extension and strain on his face. LOL everyone does this!
(https://i.postimg.cc/xjk0f0Bj/IMG-4945.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Is this a good reason to keep supporting him on The Twotter?
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Is this a good reason to keep supporting him on The Twotter?
It’s a good reason to stay on there to push back. Knock it off with the Tempo quits X and it all falls apart strawman.
Better than running to some echo chanmber where only like-minded people post.
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It’s a good reason to stay on there to push back. Knock it off with the Tempo quits X and it all falls apart strawman.
Better than running to some echo chanmber where only like-minded people post.
Keep feeding the beast along with the other morons as it sure sound like you guys need Musk to be able to "hold him accountable!" It would be laughable if it were not so sad.
Keep feeding the beast.
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The beast doesn’t need feeding. He’s already enormous. It’s laughable you think getting off Twitter changes the dynamics or somehow weakens Musk.
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The beast doesn’t need feeding. He’s already enormous. It’s laughable you think getting off Twitter changes the dynamics or somehow weakens Musk.
If everyone like you did it, it would. The bots won't sustain it.
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It might not be much, but calling out the bullshit on his platform is as good as any other approach. And I still get a steady diet of knowledge from the people who oppose him on his own platform.
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If everyone like you did it, it would. The bots won't sustain it.
Yep. I’m Twitter’s Rosa Parks. If I quit Twitter, Musk’s empire comes crashing down.
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Too bad I can’t convince 50 million others to drop Twitter. Or can I?
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And even if 50 million left Twitter today, nothing substantial happens. Musk is still Musk, and he’s still the richest man in the world.
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Dropping a platform that has lost value since Musk bought it will really cripple him.
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Musk and Trump thank you for your support.
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Libs! Quit Twitter today and destroy Musk!
(https://i.postimg.cc/xTjjwWLX/IMG-4948.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Musk and Trump thank you for your support.
And they thank you for your support of American Imperialism. Do you even criticize ICE? I’m struggling to think of when you noticeably have.
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And they thank you for your support of American Imperialism. Do you even criticize ICE? I’m struggling to think of when you noticeably have.
I did on Truth Social.
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You use Amazon, right?
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You use Amazon, right?
I do. Do not subscribe to WaPo. I tried to convince the wife to put a deposit on one of those electric cars/trucks Bezos invested in too. I am far less sanctimonious than you are though. Republicans buy gym shoes too.
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Hilarious. The guy who has castigated me for years as no better than a January 6er because I listen to The Score a handful of hours per week has just declared himself not sanctimonious.
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Hilarious. The guy who has castigated me for years as no better than a January 6er because I listen to The Score a handful of hours per week has just declared himself not sanctimonious.
I am just here to hold YOU accountable.
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That’s obvious .
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I am just here to hold YOU accountable.
At least you admit to being ironic.
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Once every couple of years PAMan offers a modicum of transparency.
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At least you admit to being ironic.
Soneone has to hold the powers that be accountable even if they are not reading this bored
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🤔 🤷🏻♂️
https://x.com/travelingflying/status/2010768302616805804?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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🤔 🤷🏻♂️
https://x.com/travelingflying/status/2010768302616805804?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I’d stay off Twitter if I were you. You’re having a rough day.
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I’d stay off Twitter if I were you. You’re having a rough day.
You had the first sentence right. Don't know about the second. You may want to take your own advice!
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You had the first sentence right. Don't know about the second. You may want to take your own advice!
I was just typing touché and ironic…
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I’d stay off Twitter if I were you. You’re having a rough day.
This one broke the irony meter...
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You had the first sentence right. Don't know about the second. You may want to take your own advice!
A fervidly anti-trumper who consistently attacks the anti-Trumper to defend Trumpers. You are quite the conundrum.
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And ironically, he’s not even that critical of Trump. He’s more critical of me using Twitter and listening to the Score than he is of Trump. Very bizarre.
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And ironically, he’s not even that critical of Trump. He’s more critical of me using Twitter and listening to the Score than he is of Trump. Very bizarre.
Like Caleb let you down, you have let me down.
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Well we know he’s not emailing Jeffrey Epstein (anymore).
https://x.com/adamparkhomenko/status/2019655434513060041?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Interesting
https://x.com/i/status/2044990537145753894