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Title: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: GrandmaPAMan on November 14, 2022, 02:57:20 AM
Hi, I'm GrandmaPAMan! Here are the things that keep me up at night!

1) The cleanliness of my grandson's underwear

2) Missed free-shots in a 30 point win on opening night in early November.

3) Justin Fields' ability to deliver a game winning drive in the 4th quarter, after carrying a dumpster fire roster of "talent" to multiple 30 point games. Will he EVER throw for 300 yards?! OMG just do it already! I don't care that you rarely get to throw it more than 22 times a game and are surrounded by trash! As they say in Missouri, Show Me! Not that I like Missouri, OMG ewww!

Let's talk Bears! Bring your cup!

Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 14, 2022, 06:57:31 AM
LOL
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Post by: Custard on November 14, 2022, 09:35:51 AM
(https://gifdb.com/images/high/lady-judge-facepalm-2waf13o9htz6tsay.gif)
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Post by: ILLove1997 on November 14, 2022, 10:11:00 AM
Gee whiz I wonder who this sock puppet is  :-X
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 14, 2022, 10:16:03 AM
I don't understand the concerns just because a new guy shows up at 3am.
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Post by: Judge Judy on November 14, 2022, 11:15:26 AM
I don't understand the concerns just because a new guy shows up at 3am.

Obviously drunk too…
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Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 12:30:39 PM
Obviously drunk too…

Obviously,,,
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 14, 2022, 01:38:05 PM
Gee whiz I wonder who this sock puppet is  :-X

Let's hope he doesn't forget the password like with his other mults.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 03:01:21 PM
Let's hope he doesn't forget the password like with his other mults.

Not surprised you liked the effort more than the others. You have a sense of humor.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 09:37:09 PM
I like the cut of GrandmaPAMan’s jib.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 14, 2022, 09:37:40 PM
Obviously drunk too…

I sincerely wish I had the time to get drunk.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 14, 2022, 09:38:11 PM
I like the cut of GrandmaPAMan’s jib.

Still waiting for her comments on the number of turnovers in the Monmouth game
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 14, 2022, 09:38:48 PM
I sincerely wish I had the time to get drunk.

Plenty of time to drink when listening to Parkins each day
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Judge Judy on November 14, 2022, 09:47:56 PM
Plenty of time to drink when listening to Parkins each day

Might sound better too.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Custard on November 14, 2022, 09:49:57 PM
I sincerely wish I had the time to get drunk.

Everyone has 24 hours a day.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:20:34 AM
Everyone has 24 hours a day.

But not everyone has “free time.”
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Chickengeorge on November 15, 2022, 07:31:14 AM
Pretty sure you said ubering freed up your time.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 08:59:20 AM
Pretty sure you said ubering freed up your time.

It allows me to create my own schedule. Still not much “me” time.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 09:03:50 AM
I suppose if I wanted to drink late at night a couple of times a week I could. Especially Saturday nights. But getting drunk at home with responsibilities the next morning isn’t really my idea of enjoyable drinking time.
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Post by: Chickengeorge on November 15, 2022, 09:50:14 AM
Out of curiosity, what is your normal Uber schedule?
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Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 10:23:02 AM
If I’m doing a full day 5am till 4:30 or so Monday-Friday. Saturdays 9-7ish Sundays I usually take off.

But it fluctuates wildly. I’m not as disciplined as I used to be and the pandemic changed things. It always evolving. I’ll take random days off or sometimes even a week. I don’t mind working 6 days or even Sunday morning a few hours if the money is good.

Rideshare fluctuates and it’s been going downhill steadily for a while. We basically took a 20% pay cut recently. Time to get back to a real job sometime soon.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 10:24:51 AM
When the pandemic was in full swing I could actually make more money in less time. I was working Chicago’s worst neighborhoods though. Still trying to pin down the best way to work “post” pandemic
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 11:12:31 AM
You should just create your own app.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Chickengeorge on November 15, 2022, 11:13:27 AM
That's a busy schedule.
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Post by: Miles Leonard on November 15, 2022, 12:01:44 PM
Effingham Dave is rolling over in his grave watching this weak sock puppet game
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 12:06:39 PM
Effingham Dave is rolling over in his grave watching this weak sock puppet game

I agree with Miles. He isn't Carl, but who is?
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 02:08:05 PM
As an FYI, Danny Parkins is out all week attending to a family matter, so not sure I can offer up to date sports opinions this week.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 03:28:48 PM
As an FYI, Danny Parkins is out all week attending to a family matter, so not sure I can offer up to date sports opinions this week.

Well, there is always Dan Orlovsky you can rely on..
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 04:36:13 PM
Well, there is always Dan Orlovsky you can rely on..

You seem averse to any analysis from people paid to do such analysis. So are you in the school of thought that only Bill Belichick’s opinion matters (and is he still a genius)? Are you of the opinion that all opinions are worthless (except yours)?

Maybe Tom Brady’s the only one with a worthwhile opinion?
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 15, 2022, 04:47:51 PM
From today .....
"Now, I’m not sure we’ve seen much in the way of meaningful change from Fields as a passer. His 51.7 passing grade still ranks 36th out of 39 qualifying quarterbacks. Just this past week, he threw a dreadful pick-six to take his turnover-worthy play total to 16 (second-most in NFL)."
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-reranking-top-quarterbacks-2021-nfl-draft-class-trevor-lawrence-justin-fields-mac-jones

I'm guessing Michael Renner gets paid for his analysis.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 05:03:00 PM
You seem averse to any analysis from people paid to do such analysis. So are you in the school of thought that only Bill Belichick’s opinion matters (and is he still a genius)? Are you of the opinion that all opinions are worthless (except yours)?

Maybe Tom Brady’s the only one with a worthwhile opinion?

No. No. No.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 05:03:20 PM
From today .....
"Now, I’m not sure we’ve seen much in the way of meaningful change from Fields as a passer. His 51.7 passing grade still ranks 36th out of 39 qualifying quarterbacks. Just this past week, he threw a dreadful pick-six to take his turnover-worthy play total to 16 (second-most in NFL)."
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-reranking-top-quarterbacks-2021-nfl-draft-class-trevor-lawrence-justin-fields-mac-jones

I'm guessing Michael Renner gets paid for his analysis.

Yes.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:05:53 PM
From today .....
"Now, I’m not sure we’ve seen much in the way of meaningful change from Fields as a passer. His 51.7 passing grade still ranks 36th out of 39 qualifying quarterbacks. Just this past week, he threw a dreadful pick-six to take his turnover-worthy play total to 16 (second-most in NFL)."
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-reranking-top-quarterbacks-2021-nfl-draft-class-trevor-lawrence-justin-fields-mac-jones

I'm guessing Michael Renner gets paid for his analysis.

That’s fine and dandy. Never said Fields was a finished product as a passer. But if you can’t see that 1) he’s been clearly improved since early in the season 2) the talent around him limits him (again multiple key drops). TD bombs, game winning TDs, 4th downs etc, you aren’t paying attention.

This guy is scoring 30 points a game and is surrounded by trash.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 05:06:45 PM
That’s fine and dandy. Never said Fields was a finished product as a passer. But if you can’t see that 1) he’s been clearly improved since early in the season 2) the talent around him limits him (again multiple key drops). TD bombs, game winning TDs, 4th downs etc, you aren’t paying attention.

This guy is scoring 30 points a game and is surrounded by trash.

He runs better than Bobby Douglass
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Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:07:46 PM
You can also see clear improvements in his reads and the little but critical details such as ball handling. His fakes have been outstanding. If you can’t see his improvement you’re a moron.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 05:09:10 PM
You can also see clear improvements in his reads and the little but critical details such as ball handling. His fakes have been outstanding. If you can’t see his improvement you’re a moron.

I don't think anyone has said he has not improved. Granted, it was a low starting bar.
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Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:10:02 PM
Lol
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 15, 2022, 05:23:15 PM
That’s fine and dandy. Never said Fields was a finished product as a passer. But if you can’t see that 1) he’s been clearly improved since early in the season 2) the talent around him limits him (again multiple key drops). TD bombs, game winning TDs, 4th downs etc, you aren’t paying attention.

This guy is scoring 30 points a game and is surrounded by trash.
The team is scoring 30.
The trash should get some credit.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:30:16 PM
The team is scoring 30.
The trash should get some credit.

Lol sure
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Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:31:15 PM
This team would be scoring 13 a game with Zack Wilson.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 15, 2022, 05:32:25 PM
This team would be scoring 13 a game with Zack Wilson.
Now it's the team ? I thought it was Fields.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:33:31 PM
Again, Fields certainly isn’t a complete passer just yet, but if you can’t see that the position is evolving, and Fields is the straw that stirs the drink for the Bears; you’re just a dinosaur. Or maybe stupid.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:34:12 PM
Now it's the team ? I thought it was Fields.

He’s the “main” reason, yes.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 15, 2022, 05:38:07 PM
Again, Fields certainly isn’t a complete passer just yet, but if you can’t see that the position is evolving, and Fields is the straw that stirs the drink for the Bears; you’re just a dinosaur. Or maybe stupid.
The qb is most often the straw of every team, from Pee Wee on up.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 05:41:23 PM
The qb is most often the straw of every team, from Pee Wee on up.

Lol

The offense was mired in awfulness two months ago. What changed? The philosophy changed and the quarterback play improved. The points went up. A lot. But yeah, EQ St. Brown is out there smashing.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 06:05:08 PM
He’s the “main” reason, yes.

Why is "main" in quotes?
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Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 06:07:04 PM
The team is scoring 30.
The trash should get some credit.

Trash linemen who can run block on occasion get zero credit. OC who had to change from a pro style passing game to college offense (in part because the line can't block well) gets zero credit.
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Post by: ThePAMan on November 15, 2022, 06:09:10 PM
Judge Judy's trash, I mean guy, Herbert on the IR for 4 weeks.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 15, 2022, 06:32:02 PM
Lol

The offense was mired in awfulness two months ago. What changed? The philosophy changed and the quarterback play improved. The points went up. A lot. But yeah, EQ St. Brown is out there smashing.
So you're giving the coaching staff some credit ?
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Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 06:40:56 PM
Why is "main" in quotes?

Dunno, just felt right at the time.
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Post by: Reacher on November 15, 2022, 06:41:26 PM
So you're giving the coaching staff some credit ?

Of course, if you could read you’d know this.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 16, 2022, 02:04:01 PM
Guy paid for his opinion pissing off Tempo:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/11/16/23462869/justin-fields-running-is-fun-but-how-about-few-more-pass-plays-luke-getsy-matt-eberflus-cole-kmet

Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 16, 2022, 02:13:56 PM
Guy paid for his opinion pissing off Tempo:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/11/16/23462869/justin-fields-running-is-fun-but-how-about-few-more-pass-plays-luke-getsy-matt-eberflus-cole-kmet


" It’s more a matter of eyesight." 🙈
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Post by: Jobu on November 16, 2022, 02:16:05 PM
Honestly, it's somewhere between "Justin Fields is trash" and "Justin Fields is MVP material."

I mean, we're smart enough to know that, right?
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 03:48:53 PM
Guy paid for his opinion pissing off Tempo:

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2022/11/16/23462869/justin-fields-running-is-fun-but-how-about-few-more-pass-plays-luke-getsy-matt-eberflus-cole-kmet

I’m not sure you actually read the article…

“It would be nice if offensive coordinator Luke Getsy would open up the passing game in the final seven games of the season, starting Sunday in Atlanta.

I know: If only it were that easy. The Bears’ offensive line knows how to run-block. It struggles in pass blocking. It’s a big reason why Getsy and head coach Matt Eberflus have embraced the idea of Fields as a running quarterback. If he’s going to get pulverized, let it be by a linebacker or safety, not a defensive tackle who has trouble keeping the pounds off.”
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Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 03:50:35 PM
“ If I were on the Bears coaching staff (looks at phone, still not ringing), I would press for more throws from Fields, specifically more deep throws. Everybody is in love with the running game these days. The Bears’ track club of Fields, Khalil Herbert (now on injured reserve) and David Montgomery has pushed the team to the top of the NFL in rushing attempts (360), rushing yards (2,017) and yards per carry (5.6). And it’s not just the Bears who are running more. Other teams seem to be falling in love with the running game again.”
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Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 16, 2022, 03:51:52 PM
"If he 's going to get pulverized"
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 03:52:47 PM
“If I were on the Bears coaching staff (looks at phone, still not ringing), I would press for more throws from Fields, specifically more deep throws. Everybody is in love with the running game these days. The Bears’ track club of Fields, Khalil Herbert (now on injured reserve) and David Montgomery has pushed the team to the top of the NFL in rushing attempts (360), rushing yards (2,017) and yards per carry (5.6). And it’s not just the Bears who are running more. Other teams seem to be falling in love with the running game again.“

As Morrisey points out, 12th in passing plays of 40 or more despite being last in pass attempts.
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Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 03:54:10 PM
“The Bears’ run-first offensive approach gives them the best chance to win, even though they’ve lost six of their last seven games. But winning should be secondary to Fields’ development.”

Sounds very anti-PAMan “where’s the wins?!”
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Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 03:55:17 PM
So obviously, you didn’t read the article. It was more of a plea to the coaching staff than an indictment of Fields.
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Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 03:59:28 PM
Trash linemen who can run block on occasion get zero credit. OC who had to change from a pro style passing game to college offense (in part because the line can't block well) gets zero credit.

Where did I ever say Getsy gets zero credit?
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Post by: ThePAMan on November 16, 2022, 04:01:34 PM
“The Bears’ run-first offensive approach gives them the best chance to win, even though they’ve lost six of their last seven games. But winning should be secondary to Fields’ development.”

Sounds very anti-PAMan “where’s the wins?!”

I think I have been clear that they should be throwing the ball 50 times a game so he can try and develop if they don't care about winning. Nonetheless, running the ball in today's NFofL does not win you games, as we have seen.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 16, 2022, 04:02:24 PM
Where did I ever say Getsy gets zero credit?

You called everyone else trash on multiple occasions.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 04:04:22 PM
I think I have been clear that they should be throwing the ball 50 times a game so he can try and develop if they don't care about winning.

That would be idiotic. He’d be in a hospital bed in less than 2 games.

Let’s get to 30 pass attempts first.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 04:06:07 PM
You called everyone else trash on multiple occasions.

With a few exceptions, most of the team is trash. We’ll be seeing a lot of new faces next year. Until they added Claypool, they had one WR you could be sure would be here another year or two. And about as many offensive linemen.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on November 16, 2022, 09:29:43 PM
The Bears do have 3 good running backs.
With Herbert on IR, Fields will probably get more carries.
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: ThePAMan on November 16, 2022, 09:30:35 PM
The Bears do have 3 good running backs.
With Herbert on IR, Fields will probably get more carries.

That's funny
Title: Re: I'm new! Let's talk Bears!
Post by: Reacher on November 16, 2022, 09:33:32 PM
The Bears do have 3 good running backs.
With Herbert on IR, Fields will probably get more carries.

Lol