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General Category => The Deuce => Topic started by: Reacher on November 08, 2022, 10:51:50 AM
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Suck it, Nazis.
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Is there a reason you put this in the football thread?
Couldn't vote for this tax cheat. Went with the Libertarian.
Couldn't vote for Alexi Russian Mobster Loving Greek Guy either. He should be in jail too.
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Fuck…
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Is there a reason you put this in the football thread?
Couldn't vote for this tax cheat. Went with the Libertarian.
Couldn't vote for Alexi Russian Mobster Loving Greek Guy either. He should be in jail too.
Jesus, you may as well vote Republican.
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Can’t believe I posted in the wrong forum twice within a few days. Lol
Thought I was in the deuce.
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Lemme guess, you decided not to vote for Pritzker over “toilets?”
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Lemme guess, you decided not to vote for Pritzker over “toilets?”
Toilets and offshore trusts to avoid taxes while paying millions to try and raise taxes on everyone else.
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Jesus, you may as well vote Republican.
I voted for 2.
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Toilets and offshore trusts to avoid taxes while paying millions to try and raise taxes on everyone else.
I thought you were a Democrat. Turns out you’re just a Bob Dole Republican.
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I thought you were a Democrat. Turns out you’re just a Bob Dole Republican.
I'm a Democrat. Just not one of these progressive limo fake liberals that have taken over the party.
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/overcoming-the-democratic-party-brand
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Not saying he’s perfect, but I’d gladly vote for Pritzker over most corporate Dems. Thank god we didn’t have a Bruce Rauner or Darren Bailey in office during Covid.
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And to Jobu or anyone else, I deserve to have my balls busted for making this posting mistake twice in a handful of days lol
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Oh boy.
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And to Jobu or anyone else, I deserve to have my balls busted for making this posting mistake twice in a handful of days lol
Haha, yeah. I'm kinda speechless here. Not much I can add.
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https://www.cnbc.com/2022/11/08/billionaires-emit-a-million-times-more-greenhouse-gases-than-the-average-person-oxfam.html
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I haven't voted yet, but I'm seriously thinking about writing in Phil McCracken or even the Sweet Meteor of Death.
I just wish there was someone worth voting for. I pretty much can't stand any politician, regardless of party.
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If I was going to write in Fields for governor, I might put it in a football thread too.
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Sweet Meteor of Death sounds like something I could get behind.
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If I was going to write in Fields for governor, I might put it in a football thread too.
Truth be told, would probably be better than than choices on the ballot.
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Toilets and offshore trusts to avoid taxes while paying millions to try and raise taxes on everyone else.
Yeah seriously fuck that guy what an asshole
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I mostly went to vote for my buddy who was on the ballot for county Sheriff. So disgusted with Sleepy Joe’s administration/Dem messaging disaster that I *almost* voted a straight party ticket “against my best interests” 🤣
I looked at some major news pages earlier today for shits and grins. Look at this fear/outrage mongering from the front page of MSNBC:
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It’s that time again:
https://youtu.be/HeMGqTwWA6U
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Toilets and offshore trusts to avoid taxes while paying millions to try and raise taxes on everyone else.
"Pritzker campaigned to amend the 1970 charter to allow a progressive rate. He contended that anyone making less than $250,000 — 97% of taxpayers — would pay the current rate or less. Those with incomes over $250,000 would pay higher incremental rates, topping out at 7.99%.Nov 5, 2020"
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Some more truth telling / outrage mongering.
(https://i.ibb.co/vXx31s1/Screenshot-20221109-103013-2.png) (https://ibb.co/0sjCqBq)
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Walker makes about as much sense as Sleepy Joe Biden.
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Walker makes about as much sense as Sleepy Joe Biden.
yeah but he won a heisman. checkmate, lib
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"Pritzker campaigned to amend the 1970 charter to allow a progressive rate. He contended that anyone making less than $250,000 — 97% of taxpayers — would pay the current rate or less. Those with incomes over $250,000 would pay higher incremental rates, topping out at 7.99%.Nov 5, 2020"
We have already been through this Nichi...add in property taxes, which are now going up in Cook County to allegedly buy land for the forest preserve (yeah, right), and get back to me.
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We have already been through this Nichi...add in property taxes, which are now going up in Cook County to allegedly buy land for the forest preserve (yeah, right), and get back to me.
You can move to Florida. I heard there are some cheap condos in Fort Meyers, and DeSantis will give you a property tax holiday!
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We have already been through this Nichi...add in property taxes, which are now going up in Cook County to allegedly buy land for the forest preserve (yeah, right), and get back to me.
You said everyone else. Everyone has a meaning.
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You said everyone else. Everyone has a meaning.
Yes, everyone pays property taxes even if it is passed through rent.
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You can move to Florida. I heard there are some cheap condos in Fort Meyers, and DeSantis will give you a property tax holiday!
Dan Proft and Griffin bought up all the good spots already
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Yes, everyone pays property taxes even if it is passed through rent.
Another one of these fools who doesn't believe in economics.
If the state raises your property taxes, you can *try* to increase the rent your tenants pay, but it comes down to supply and demand, if there is nobody willing to pay the increase, you will have to eat the tax yourself.
Thought experiment - if the state *lowers* property taxes, do landlords lower the rents?
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Trump is as bad at communicating; just a lot more entertaining. Biden is annoyingly bad. And Kamala Harris would make great host of "Kids Say" or "Sesame Street."
Biden and Harris have done pretty well governing considering the utter mess they inherited.
Desantis, otoh, is very articulate and likely dangerous. The "woke mob" are not just people who he disagrees with; they are the enemy and apparently not welcome.
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Another one of these fools who doesn't believe in economics.
If the state raises your property taxes, you can *try* to increase the rent your tenants pay, but it comes down to supply and demand, if there is nobody willing to pay the increase, you will have to eat the tax yourself.
Thought experiment - if the state *lowers* property taxes, do landlords lower the rents?
This all appears to be currently happening, isn't it?
https://chicagocrusader.com/some-rent-prices-are-coming-down-in-illinois/
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Yes, everyone pays property taxes even if it is passed through rent.
Not everyone lives in Cook County. Pritzker is not in charge of county taxes.
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Trump is as bad at communicating; just a lot more entertaining. Biden is annoyingly bad. And Kamala Harris would make great host of "Kids Say" or "Sesame Street."
Biden and Harris have done pretty well governing considering the utter mess they inherited.
Desantis, otoh, is very articulate and likely dangerous. The "woke mob" are not just people who he disagrees with; they are the enemy and apparently not welcome.
You are probably right about DeSantis.
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Desantis, otoh, is very articulate and likely dangerous.
What specific policy do you find dangerous that you are fearful DeSantis would enact?
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This all appears to be currently happening, isn't it?
https://chicagocrusader.com/some-rent-prices-are-coming-down-in-illinois/
The property tax went down? You told me it went up!
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The property tax went down? You told me it went up!
It's going up after the forest preserve ref passed.
Still paying it when paying rent.
One thing that I had not factored into rental rates was the COVID eviction moratoriums. BigPAThey is too lazy to find an article on how that has impacted rents (if at all) in the area.
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What specific policy do you find dangerous that you are fearful DeSantis would enact?
I am not "fearful". Nor am I outraged. Concerned is a better word. Desantis has shown a willingness to abuse the law to remove elected officials for political reasons.
He also supports draconian measures to infringe freedom of speech & assembly and voting rights; some of which have been overturned by courts.
Also favors reducing debt by cutting programs instead of raising revenue. It seems clear that the cuts would not include reducing funds for law enforcement and border security.
He also generally opposes regulations that increase the cost of doing business.
Pretty much looks like a Trump with sharper claws and fangs.
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We all know Nichi loves to pay taxes. The more the better!
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We all know Nichi loves to pay taxes. The more the better!
I dunno bout nichi, but Ray believes programs that benefit people should be at least as adequately funded as those intended to punish wrong doing.
Free markets works best for some things, central planning is better for others, like healthcare, education, transportation, public safety.
Privatizing prisons, using prisoners as slave labor for private companies, tax increment financing, a handful of huge companies dominating market share, are not necessarily examples of free markets.
It's also interesting that deficit and debt reduction only occurs when we elect Democrats.
"There is no reason why, in a society which has reached the general level of wealth ours has, (the certainty of a given minimum of sustenance) should not be guaranteed to all without endangering general freedom; that is: some minimum of food, shelter and clothing, sufficient to preserve health. Nor is there any reason why the state should not help to organize a comprehensive system of social insurance in providing for those common hazards of life against which few can make adequate provision." -- Hayek
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It's going up after the forest preserve ref passed.
Still paying it when paying rent.
One thing that I had not factored into rental rates was the COVID eviction moratoriums. BigPAThey is too lazy to find an article on how that has impacted rents (if at all) in the area.
You need to change your name to the straw man.
If we lowered property taxes and gave everyone 20 million dollars, rents would go up.
If we raised property taxes but zeroed out everyone's bank account, rents would go down.
The job is to tease out the effect of a property tax increase disregarding other impacts. In the end, in a rational free market, landlords will charge as much as renters will pay, regardless of their costs, so property taxes have no direct impact.
As an indirect impact, if property tax increases made being a landlord a bad financial decision, properties would be taken out of the rental stock and sold, and that in the end might have an impact on rents - but that's not your argument. Your argument was that property tax increases are passed on dollar for dollar to renters, which is not true.
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Your argument was that property tax increases are passed on dollar for dollar to renters, which is not true.
Oh come on. Obviously any increase is spread over the units for rent in any building. Have you ever looked at a commercial lease?
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Oh come on. Obviously any increase is spread over the units for rent in any building. Have you ever looked at a commercial lease?
Wrong. Econ 101. Supply. Demand. Cost of goods does not change that curve
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Wrong. Econ 101. Supply. Demand. Cost of goods does not change that curve
You have to be kidding me. CAM and taxes for commercial leases go up based on the CAM and taxes.
You are like the teacher in Back to School where Rodney has to explain the realities of paying off politicians and unions when you run a business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSLscJ2cY04
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He also generally opposes regulations that increase the cost of doing business.
NO SHIT! What’s the benefit to the opposite? You want to make it more costly to do business? Why?
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Murph, I will let you know what my buddy, who had to agree to offset 2 years of Cook County property taxes from his sales price in order to sell his house, says when I let him know that property values have nothing to do with property taxes....
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We all know Nichi loves to pay taxes. The more the better!
No, he loves other people paying them. Like all socialists. When you are sucking on the teat of the public pension system, then you don’t want any govt program cut bc ultimately they will eventually get to yours.
I mean the dude literally wants more red tape. He actually thinks it’s a negative for businesses to do business as easily as possible.
Nichi- move to Venezuela. You’ll love it there. Or China. Or stay in Illinois until they run out of money which will be by 2030.
God Forbid we ever actually get a conservative in the White House. Someone that only protects the borders and cuts spending and cuts taxes. Not the Trump era spend spend spend populism. Some of you people gonna have to get off your asses and get to fucking work
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Some of you people gonna have to get off your asses and get to fucking work
Says the guy who allegedly "invests" in prepubescent female tennis players for a living.
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Some more truth telling / outrage mongering.
(https://i.ibb.co/vXx31s1/Screenshot-20221109-103013-2.png) (https://ibb.co/0sjCqBq)
How do you listen to this guy and not think “he belongs in the highest chamber of Congress?”
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No, he loves other people paying them. Like all socialists. When you are sucking on the teat of the public pension system, then you don’t want any govt program cut bc ultimately they will eventually get to yours.
I mean the dude literally wants more red tape. He actually thinks it’s a negative for businesses to do business as easily as possible.
Nichi- move to Venezuela. You’ll love it there. Or China. Or stay in Illinois until they run out of money which will be by 2030.
God Forbid we ever actually get a conservative in the White House. Someone that only protects the borders and cuts spending and cuts taxes. Not the Trump era spend spend spend populism. Some of you people gonna have to get off your asses and get to fucking work
Amen.
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Says the guy who allegedly "invests" in prepubescent female tennis players for a living.
I take back that amen. Fuck that pedophile!
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Murph, I will let you know what my buddy, who had to agree to offset 2 years of Cook County property taxes from his sales price in order to sell his house, says when I let him know that property values have nothing to do with property taxes....
You are incoherent.
Simple example again. County raises taxes. Landlord tells tenant "I am raising your rent to pay for my taxes". Tenant can either decide to pay it, or say "no, if you raise my rent, I'm walking"
That's economics.
If I am a landlord and I have to put on a new roof, does the tenant pay? No. If the landlord wants to raise the rent to get the income to pay it, they can try. But the tenant pays rent, determined by the market, not the landlord's costs.
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You have to be kidding me. CAM and taxes for commercial leases go up based on the CAM and taxes.
You are like the teacher in Back to School where Rodney has to explain the realities of paying off politicians and unions when you run a business.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSLscJ2cY04
And if the payoffs are too high, you quit the business. QED. Economics
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Murph, I will let you know what my buddy, who had to agree to offset 2 years of Cook County property taxes from his sales price in order to sell his house, says when I let him know that property values have nothing to do with property taxes....
You made my point. The owner of the house paid the property taxes, not the purchaser. The seller was not able to pass the property taxes on to his buyer.
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I’d love to hear our board conservatives tell us how they feel about 4 more years of JB Pritzker.
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The ironic thing about democrats is they claim to be looking out for the best interest of the lower class, but their energy policies harm the lower class more than anyone.
Wealthy people can afford $5/gallon gas, and high heating bills. The lower class are affected disproportionately. So why would any person making under 50,000 ever vote for Democrats?
The only good thing Trump did in office was the Supreme Court. Roe V Wade dead. Affirmative Action dead. But the courts can’t fix bad fiscal/energy policy
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I’d love to hear our board conservatives tell us how they feel about 4 more years of JB Pritzker.
Most conservatives have left Illinois by now and don’t give a fuck. Like me.
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Most conservatives have left Illinois by now and don’t give a fuck. Like me.
Good, don’t let the door hit ya.
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You made my point. The owner of the house paid the property taxes, not the purchaser. The seller was not able to pass the property taxes on to his buyer.
He was pissed and desperate to get out of the house.
You make zero sense in all this. Of course people can move, but there are costs to that and the other landlord may have the same property tax issues unless in a shitty neighborhood.
I fail to see how this is hot take territory, Murph34
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The ironic thing about democrats is they claim to be looking out for the best interest of the lower class, but their energy policies harm the lower class more than anyone.
Wealthy people can afford $5/gallon gas, and high heating bills. The lower class are affected disproportionately. So why would any person making under 50,000 ever vote for Democrats?
The only good thing Trump did in office was the Supreme Court. Roe V Wade dead. Affirmative Action dead. But the courts can’t fix bad fiscal/energy policy
Ironically the Supreme Court handed the Dems a lifeline.
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NO SHIT! What’s the benefit to the opposite? You want to make it more costly to do business? Why?
Right. Get rid of wasteful spending that prevents acid rain, black lung, or workplace accidents. Get rid of minimum wages and overtime pay.
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The ironic thing about democrats is they claim to be looking out for the best interest of the lower class, but their energy policies harm the lower class more than anyone.
Wealthy people can afford $5/gallon gas, and high heating bills. The lower class are affected disproportionately. So why would any person making under 50,000 ever vote for Democrats?
The only good thing Trump did in office was the Supreme Court. Roe V Wade dead. Affirmative Action dead. But the courts can’t fix bad fiscal/energy policy
Except shutting down the crappy pipeline extension had no effect on energy prices.
The poor suffer more from climate change and would benefit from an actual aggressive green energy policy.
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No, he loves other people paying them. Like all socialists. When you are sucking on the teat of the public pension system, then you don’t want any govt program cut bc ultimately they will eventually get to yours.
I mean the dude literally wants more red tape. He actually thinks it’s a negative for businesses to do business as easily as possible.
Nichi- move to Venezuela. You’ll love it there. Or China. Or stay in Illinois until they run out of money which will be by 2030.
God Forbid we ever actually get a conservative in the White House. Someone that only protects the borders and cuts spending and cuts taxes. Not the Trump era spend spend spend populism. Some of you people gonna have to get off your asses and get to fucking work
It's rude to talk about others when they are present. You Nazis wing nuts invariably point to Venezuela when the desirable model is Denmark.
Free market economy when free markets work. Regulate to prevent monopolies and abuses.
Central planning when central planning works.
Pure free markets and pure socialism invariably fail. Mixed economies are the only thing that works.
The wing nuts generally reply, in so many words, that we have too many non-whites for the Scandinavian model to work here.
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It's rude to talk about others when they are present. You Nazis wing nuts invariably point to Venezuela when the desirable model is Denmark.
Free market economy when free markets work. Regulate to prevent monopolies and abuses.
Central planning when central planning works.
Pure free markets and pure socialism invariably fail. Mixed economies are the only thing that works.
The wing nuts generally reply, in so many words, that we have too many non-whites for the Scandinavian model to work here.
Nichi, that twerp doesn't even know who Nixon is.
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It's rude to talk about others when they are present. You Nazis wing nuts invariably point to Venezuela when the desirable model is Denmark.
Free market economy when free markets work. Regulate to prevent monopolies and abuses.
Central planning when central planning works.
Pure free markets and pure socialism invariably fail. Mixed economies are the only thing that works.
The wing nuts generally reply, in so many words, that we have too many non-whites for the Scandinavian model to work here.
Would you move to Denmark if your property taxes go up ?
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Would you move to Denmark if your property taxes go up ?
Doubt they'd have me. My property taxes are actually reasonable. I do need to shop my homeowners insurance next time it comes due.
Seriously, I don't think we can exactly duplicate what Denmark does, but nationalizing the oil industry might be a good idea.
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Doubt they'd have me.
Seriously, I don't think we can exactly duplicate what Denmark does, but nationalizing the oil industry might be a good idea.
We could see if Meghan Markle wants the Queen position.
And if you need a referral, just ask.
The current resident of the White House has vowed to eliminate the oil industry.
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The ironic thing about democrats is they claim to be looking out for the best interest of the lower class, but their energy policies harm the lower class more than anyone.
Wealthy people can afford $5/gallon gas, and high heating bills. The lower class are affected disproportionately. So why would any person making under 50,000 ever vote for Democrats?
The only good thing Trump did in office was the Supreme Court. Roe V Wade dead. Affirmative Action dead. But the courts can’t fix bad fiscal/energy policy
The problem is we don't have enough AOC's in the world. We need a massive marshall plan to put 1.21 Gigawatts of solar/wind out there, and amp up electric vehicle and battery production, heat pumps. Then we don't need gas and we have lower heating bills.
Forget climate change, this is an economic and national security issue. And that's a shit ton of roll your sleeves up blue collar jobs.
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Most conservatives have left Illinois by now and don’t give a fuck. Like me.
They all moved to Florida, to create this illusion that Ron DeSantis will have any national constituency. If you can pick your voters, you look great.
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We could see if Meghan Markle wants the Queen position.
And if you need a referral, just ask.
The current resident of the White House has vowed to eliminate the oil industry.
If he wants to do that, he's doing a shitty job.
Question: if you could do all the things you can do with oil, without the actual oil, would you? Or are you just a fossil
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The problem is we don't have enough AOC's in the world. We need a massive marshall plan to put 1.21 Gigawatts of solar/wind out there, and amp up electric vehicle and battery production, heat pumps. Then we don't need gas and we have lower heating bills.
Forget climate change, this is an economic and national security issue. And that's a shit ton of roll your sleeves up blue collar jobs.
If they sold this as, if we do this, we can tell the fucking third world countries that form OPEC and the gas station that is Russia to fuck off, then people might go for it.
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If they sold this as, if we do this, we can tell the fucking third world countries that form OPEC and the gas station that is Russia to fuck off, then people might go for it.
You and me, 2024. Which slot you want?
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We could see if Meghan Markle wants the Queen position.
And if you need a referral, just ask.
The current resident of the White House has vowed to eliminate the oil industry.
(https://i.ibb.co/1GXJSmr/Screenshot-20221109-205312-2.png) (https://ibb.co/hFd1qmB)
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You and me, 2024. Which slot you want?
I'll take VP. I'm lazy.
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I'll take VP. I'm lazy.
And you rather enjoy funerals.
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The ironic thing about democrats is they claim to be looking out for the best interest of the lower class, but their energy policies harm the lower class more than anyone.
Wealthy people can afford $5/gallon gas, and high heating bills. The lower class are affected disproportionately.
Ah, yes, the "lower class" that commutes from DuPage Counry to the Loop every day by car and owns their own 2k sq ft home.