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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on November 07, 2022, 08:50:20 AM
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I know this is getting ahead of things, but I’m already eagerly anticipating the draft. I’m glad the Bears lost yesterday, we need that top 5 pick, and tbh I don’t think the Bears are a bottom 5 team.
Jalen Carter looks to be projected around 5, and he looks to be exactly what this team needs at the 3-technique.
Lemme hear your thoughts.
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What happened to Ghost of Royko?
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The Bears aren't a bottom 5 team. The Colts, Panthers, and Lions are easily worse. Probably the Browns, too.
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I know this is getting ahead of things, but I’m already eagerly anticipating the draft. I’m glad the Bears lost yesterday, we need that too 5 pick, and tbh I don’t think the Bears are a bottom 5 team.
Jalen Carter looks to be projected around 5, and he looks to be exactly what this team needs at the 3-technique.
Lemme hear your thoughts.
I agree on all of this.
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Better get o linemen. Fields rushing for over 100 ypg is unsustainable. He'll get killed.
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Better get o linemen. Fields rushing for over 100 ypg is unsustainable. He'll get killed.
I agree. Use that cap money for this. Experience matters.
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Agreed. Unless it a super-elite LT I’m not using the 1st pick on an O-lineman. Free agency probably the best route there. Especially for interior guys. That 1st rounder has to be a DL, LT, or WR.
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But I’m all for drafting more offensive lineman in the middle rounds.
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This is where Ghost of Royko would explain contracts and cap space.
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RIP, Ghost
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Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if he died. I think he was pretty old.
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Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if he died. I think he was pretty old.
Oh man, I hope not. Any way we can determine this? Was he buddies with any other members?
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Yeah I wouldn’t be surprised if he died. I think he was pretty old.
(https://i.pinimg.com/564x/3b/44/cd/3b44cdf441a9ecb3440529ccb7fa21bd.jpg)
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Yes! A little higher up the draft board! Jalen! Jalen! Jalen!
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Cairos Santos! MVP! MVP! MVP!
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Pack won't be getting Carter. They might as well not even scout players for the next draft
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Pack won't be getting Carter. They might as well not even scout players for the next draft
We know they won’t be drafting a WR 😂
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We know they won’t be drafting a WR 😂
Maybe they can pick up Valus Jones when the Bear release him
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Maybe they can pick up Valus Jones when the Bear release him
Hopefully. Or pick up the WR we cut that lost us two games.
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Man, there is a shit ton of competition for that top 5 pick.
https://www.tankathon.com/nfl
Bears currently 6th, Carter projected at 4.
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Apparently he can be used as a FB or WR in the red zone, too! Lol
https://youtu.be/tIqxQ7Anm0A
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Tank for Jalen!
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Apparently he can be used as a FB or WR in the red zone, too! Lol
https://youtu.be/tIqxQ7Anm0A
We’ve been waiting for the next Fridge since the last Fridge
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Here ya go Tempo…
https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1594548433330774016?s=46&t=FWpdp3_ZIrMASTWB8_ccXg
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Here ya go Tempo…
https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1594548433330774016?s=46&t=FWpdp3_ZIrMASTWB8_ccXg
I’d take that! Would be cool to have Chase Brown in a Bears uniform, too.
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I was really impressed with Payne Durham from Purdue last week, he looked tall enough to catch some Fields passes.
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I was really impressed with Payne Durham from Purdue last week, he looked tall enough to catch some Fields passes.
https://giphy.com/gifs/oh-snap-26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8
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If you paste that into the image bracket it’ll load in the thread rather than as a link.
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If you paste that into the image bracket it’ll load in the thread rather than as a link.
Thanks
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Now I just need to figure out how to access the image bracket.
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Ok, found it
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[(https://giphy.com/gifs/oh-snap-26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8)quote author=Custard link=topic=649.msg57488#msg57488 date=1669006309]
I was really impressed with Payne Durham from Purdue last week, he looked tall enough to catch some Fields passes.
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lol that worked great
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I was really impressed with Payne Durham from Purdue last week, he looked tall enough to catch some Fields passes.
(https://giphy.com/gifs/oh-snap-26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8)
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I was really impressed with Payne Durham from Purdue last week, he looked tall enough to catch some Fields passes.
(https://giphy.com/gifs/oh-snap-26AHLBZUC1n53ozi8)
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JFC I was sure I did it correctly the last two times…
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Now I just need to figure out how to access the image bracket.
(https://i.ibb.co/DkS7zGq/AA6-B97-B2-F444-4-A87-8-C21-1140-B4991014.jpg) (https://ibb.co/CvTnmJr)
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Yeah that’s what I did the last two times and inserted the image and didn’t work. Maybe my link sucks
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So if we can stay in the top 3, the question likely becomes Anderson or Carter? Need the dominant 3 technique for our defense, but Anderson might just be too good to pass up. Again, I’d be ok with butt plugging someone the way Lynch did Pace.
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Those posts were some of your best work in a while, Tempo.
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Those posts were some of your best work in a while, Tempo.
Beats your football analysis.
Quarterback gets ALL the blame or ALL the glory, amirite?! #300yards
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Beats your football analysis.
Quarterback gets ALL the blame or ALL the glory, amirite?! #300yards
Didn't realize the need for him to be a QB and not a RB playing QB was such a hot take.
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Didn't realize the need for him to be a QB and not a RB playing QB was such a hot take.
You, Mn, and maybe Custard (he’s a lot more cryptic) are literally the only 3 people I’ve heard in the last month that remain unconvinced Fields “can be an NFL quarterback.”
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You, Mn, and maybe Custard (he’s a lot more cryptic) are literally the only 3 people I’ve heard in the last month that remain unconvinced Fields “can be an NFL quarterback.”
"It says a lot about your narrow-mindedness that you reject all sources of analysis that aren’t your own. Like, you don’t even see other opinions as having any validity."
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"It says a lot about your narrow-mindedness that you reject all sources of analysis that aren’t your own. Like, you don’t even see other opinions as having any validity."
Again, you fail to hear me when I acknowledge he isn’t a finished product. I’ve acknowledged this many times. #wherethe300yardgamesandwins
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Again, you fail to hear me when I acknowledge he isn’t a finished product. I’ve acknowledged this many times. #wherethe300yardgamesandwins
I know you have adding that to your posts on the subject. One thing we agree on.
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
How about “budding superstar,” which is what he’s being billed as around all circles except the IlliniHQ2 Football forum?
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2022/11/6/23443639/justin-fields-superstar-chicago-bears-highlights-franchise-qb
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
https://youtu.be/HkLYfU3FVtU
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
https://youtu.be/LnntqyO2xnM
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
https://youtu.be/cr123KL7jkA
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How about “budding superstar,” which is what he’s being billed as around all circles except the IlliniHQ2 Football forum?
See, it is the "superstar" and "all circles" parts that supports your sig as neither are not remotely true
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
https://youtu.be/z3XPeHm06_0
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/analysis/justin-fields-is-nfls-next-superstar-qb/
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https://youtu.be/z3XPeHm06_0
You can't be serious. Colin Cowherd? LOL.
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https://twitter.com/clayharbs82/status/1591890799758819329?s=46&t=64cJa_fCbQIL9l8cCKov4Q
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https://twitter.com/clayharbs82/status/1591890799758819329?s=46&t=64cJa_fCbQIL9l8cCKov4Q
https://www.the33rdteam.com/category/analysis/justin-fields-is-nfls-next-superstar-qb/
Isn't "shown potential" the key? I'd agree with that.
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https://twitter.com/clayharbs82/status/1591890799758819329?s=46&t=64cJa_fCbQIL9l8cCKov4Q
Who is Clay Harbor?
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https://twitter.com/jbook37/status/1592180117836820480?s=46&t=64cJa_fCbQIL9l8cCKov4Q
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Bet I could do this another couple hours pretty easily, if you need more evidence.
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You can't be serious. Colin Cowherd? LOL.
*PAMan cluelessly says while ignoring 10 other links*
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https://twitter.com/jbook37/status/1592180117836820480?s=46&t=64cJa_fCbQIL9l8cCKov4Q
Doubtful Kyle Shanahan would have made him a wing back. One could think he probably could have coached him up as a QB though, but then look at the same mistakes Jimmy G makes week after week az well as the doofus who blew the game to the Bear, makes me wonder.
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Bet I could do this another couple hours pretty easily, if you need more evidence.
And the kid hasn't shown he can do much in the 4th quarter when they know he is going to throw. Well except when they call runs and he gets hurt and then throws an INT.
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See, it is the "superstar" and "all circles" parts that supports your sig as neither are not remotely true
Again, your comprehension is piss poor for a lawyer. You understand the difference between “budding” and “completely bloomed,” right?
Mn asked for reasons for optimism and I provided a dozen or so links for said optimism from a simple 3 word search.
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
He asked this question, I answered it.
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*PAMan cluelessly says while ignoring 10 other links*
You are honestly linking to Colin Cowherd. People take that jackass as seriously as we take Dominic around here.
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And the kid hasn't shown he can do much in the 4th quarter when they know he is going to throw. Well except when they call runs and he gets hurt and then throws an INT.
You seriously are one dumb meatheaded cocksucker. I mean you literally have a meatball for a brain when it comes to football.
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He asked this question, I answered it.
Well, you didn't say 3 to 5 more starts, so there is that
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You seriously are one dumb meatheaded cocksucker. I mean you literally have a meatball for a brain when it comes to football.
Tell me where I am wrong factually. You can't.
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You are honestly linking to Colin Cowherd. People take that jackass as seriously as we take Dominic around here.
I’ve probably posted 20 different analysts. You’ve rejected every one of them to my knowledge. You are literally clowning yourself here. No one, not even me has said he’s a finished product.
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Tell me where I am wrong factually. You can't.
Again, you dismiss dropped punts, fumbles, completions that came up a half yard short because the skinny WR couldn’t muscle his way in, bad calls, missed calls…etc. and still ignore that he’s making chicken salad out of chicken shit. You are a fucking joke.
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Again, your comprehension is piss poor for a lawyer. You understand the difference between “budding” and “completely bloomed,” right?
Mn asked for reasons for optimism and I provided a dozen or so links for said optimism from a simple 3 word search.
"Superstar" is still the key word, dimwit. "Budding NFL QB" I would agree with the "budding" part.
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Again, you dismiss dropped punts, fumbles, completions that came up a half yard short because the skinny WR couldn’t muscle his way in, bad calls, missed calls…etc. and still ignore that he’s making chicken salad out of chicken shit. You are a fucking joke.
4th quarter he has sucked complete ass. You can try and pin the blame on everyone but him, but the QB is the most important player on the field.
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"Superstar" is still the key word, dimwit. "Budding NFL QB" I would agree with the "budding" part.
Give me your list of QBs you’d rather have under 27 years of age.
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You are honestly linking to Colin Cowherd. People take that jackass as seriously as we take Dominic around here.
You’ve literally laughed off every single source I’ve posted for a month.
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His QB rating in the 4th quarter is 60. 2 passes over 20 yards. 3 td and 4 int. 13 sacks.
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4th quarter he has sucked complete ass. You can try and pin the blame on everyone but him, but the QB is the most important player hon the field.
Yes, it gets a little harder when the defense knows we have to pass and they are piss poor at pass blocking and the receivers drops passes on 4th down (hello EQ, hello Ihmir). JFC are you dense.
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His QB rating in the 4th quarter is 60. 2 passes over 20 yards. 3 td and 4 int. 13 sacks.
And for the 50th time, you ignore that his pass blocking and WRs suck ass.
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You’ve literally laughed off every single source I’ve posted for a month.
Well, you keep linking to idiots like Dan Bernstein and ESPN and FS1 guys. Colin Cowherd, seriously?
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Out of the top 5 OL and top 3 WRs (8 total) how many of them do you want back as starters next year? Feel free to name them.
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And for the 50th time, you ignore that his pass blocking and WRs suck ass.
It is always someone else's fault except the budding superstar, Mitch Fields.
Let the kid learn and maybe bring the team back using his arm before we start calling him a "budding superstar"
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Out of the top 5 OL and top 3 WRs (8 total) how many of them do you want back as starters next year? Feel free to name them.
Are you counting Kmet as a WR? What about the other RBs besides Fields?
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And for the 50th time, you ignore that his pass blocking and WRs suck ass.
And for the 9000th time, you ignore that he has sucked in the 4th quarter along with his teammates.
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Are you counting Kmet as a WR? What about the other RBs besides Fields?
Sure, feel free to count Kmet.
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And for the 9000th time, you ignore that he has sucked in the 4th quarter along with his teammates.
He can’t catch the ball for EQ, prevent Ihmir from fumbling, fight into the end zone for Mooney, or stop the other team from scoring.
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It is always someone else's fault except the budding superstar, Mitch Fields.
Let the kid learn and maybe bring the team back using his arm before we start calling him a "budding superstar"
I’ve never said it’s always someone elses’ fault. You’re saying it’s ALL on Fields, which is fucking absurd.
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He also can’t call better plays for a Getsy.
Btw. The Falcons had 13 sacks all year and got 4 on Fields and 10 hits. But I’m sure it’s because he held the ball too long every play…
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Colin Cowherd. lol
I've watched that dipshit, maybe twice. One of his segments is called "what Colin was wrong about." It's usually a pretty long segment.
Colin Cowherd. lol
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He can’t catch the ball for EQ, prevent Ihmir from fumbling, fight into the end zone for Mooney, or stop the other team from scoring.
He can stop throwing the ball to the other team.
Avg 4.6 pts in 4th qtr. Down from 5.3 last year. 26th in league.
Last 3 games, avg 6.7, which would put them at 14th in the league. Right there with budding superstar and playoff QB Derek Carr.
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I’ve never said it’s always someone elses’ fault. You’re saying it’s ALL on Fields, which is fucking absurd.
You continually say it is someone else's fault.
Also, Getsy is hamstrung by what he can call. The line sucks and his QB is way too slow at processing plays when he actually has time. We saw this the first whatever games of the season before they went to a wing back style offense.
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The idea that a QB with 15ish starts under his belt is supposed to overcome all of the other bad he is surrounded with (which is considerable) is fucking insane. He’s literally 90% of the reason they’re putting up 30 per game.
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You continually say it is someone else's fault.
Also, Getsy is hamstrung by what he can call. The line sucks and his QB is way too slow at processing plays when he actually has time. We saw this the first whatever games of the season before they went to a wing back style offense.
No, dipshit. I just counter your argument that it’s not all on him. He’s the only one you ever blame. Look in the mirror.
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He also can’t call better plays for a Getsy.
Btw. The Falcons had 13 sacks all year and got 4 on Fields and 10 hits. But I’m sure it’s because he held the ball too long every play…
They were also the worst pass d in the NFL. The Bear, between the O line and the QB who takes forever to get rid of the ball when he actually has time, did squat throwing the ball.
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He's started 21 games.
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No, dipshit. I just counter your argument that it’s not all on him. He’s the only one you ever blame. Look in the mirror.
You make excuse after excuse for the budding superstar who has a 4th qtr QB rating of 60
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He's started 21 games.
Can't judge him for 3-5 more starts or until February 29th.
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Can't judge him for 3-5 more starts or until February 29th.
Just saying, I don't consider 21 15ish. Not when the difference is 1/3 of a season.
Carry on.
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You conveniently omit that I acknowledge they cannot pass block and they should be a. moving the pocket, b. throwing screens to the RBs, c. throwing into the flat (which he has problems doing), so he gets the ball out quicker. You even made a mult about the flat stuff.
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They were also the worst pass d in the NFL. The Bear, between the O line and the QB who takes forever to get rid of the ball when he actually has time, did squat throwing the ball.
Says the moron who refuses to admit the line can’t pass block. He can get rid of it in 2 seconds every play, doesn’t mean the offense is going to be successful.
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You conveniently omit that I acknowledge they cannot pass block and they should be a. moving the pocket, b. throwing screens to the RBs, c. throwing into the flat (which he has problems doing), so he gets the ball out quicker. You even made a mult about the flat stuff.
And they’ve done a lot of that. And he’s been much better since, but you refuse to admit it because you can’t forget about the time he missed Kmet in the flat.
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Can't judge him for 3-5 more starts or until February 29th.
Breaking out of the meme machine means you’ve lost the argument.
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The idea that a QB with 15ish starts under his belt is supposed to overcome all of the other bad he is surrounded with (which is considerable) is fucking insane. He’s literally 90% of the reason they’re putting up 30 per game.
Hard to believe with all the trash on O they score at all
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He's started 21 games.
I’m counting the early games too, genius.
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Have you answered the question yet? How many OL and receivers do you want still starting here for a couple more years?
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I’m counting the early games too, genius.
You said he started 15ish. I said he started 21. Genius.
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Breaking out of the meme machine means you’ve lost the argument.
Funny since you are the one name calling since I don't think Colin Cowherd is a credible source.
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He's started 21 games.
At the beginning of the year it was 10 I think, so I split the difference.
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Funny since you are the one name calling since I don't think Colin Cowherd is a credible source.
Nor the 20 others I’ve provided.
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Not the 20 others I’ve provided.
You have called names throughout since you are so heavily invested in Mitch Fields. Do you call Parkins names on the Algonquin Chevrolet The Score Text Line?
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At the beginning of the year it was 10 I think, so I split the difference.
10 starts last year. 11 starts this year. Math is hard.
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Answer this: can Justin Fields catch a perfectly thrown ball on 4th down for EQ St. Brown?
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10 starts last year. 11 starts this year. Math is hard.
Again, I was splitting the difference because in week 1 it was 11, which that week counts too. Logic is hard.
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Again, I was splitting the difference because in week 1 it was 11, which that week counts too. Logic is hard.
Why say 15ish? Why not say 20ish?
Because 15ish helps your argument. Makes him looks a tiny bit less experienced.
Doesn't matter. Be dishonest if you want.
Colin Cowherd. lol
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Why say 15ish? Why not say 20ish?
Because 15ish helps your argument. Makes him looks a tiny bit less experienced.
Doesn't matter. Be dishonest if you want.
Colin Cowherd. lol
Because in week 1 he’d had have 11. If he won that in the 4th quarter, that would have counted. Why is this hard to understand? The only point at which he had 21 starts was this past Sunday. Do you not understand that the first 8 games of the season also count in the metric?
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Give me your list of QBs you’d rather have under 27 years of age.
With the team's good ground game, he couldn't outduel Marcus Mariota when he was going against the worst pass defense in the NFL.
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Because in week 1 he’d had have 11. If he won that in the 4th quarter, that would have counted. Why is this hard to understand? The only point at which he had 21 starts was this past Sunday. Do you not understand that the first 8 games of the season also count in the metric?
What the fuck are you talking about?
Did you or did you not say Justin Fields has had 15ish starts in his NFL career?
In 2021 and 2022, Justin Fields has had 21 starts. He started 10 fucking games in 2021. He has started 11 fucking games in 2022. That is 21 fucking games that he has started. If you don't count this past fucking Sunday, that's 20.
21 - 15 is 6 games. So, you were trying to short him 6 fucking games started over his NFL career.
Maybe we're talking about 2 different things or something. Doesn't matter. I need to get back to work.
Fuck, man. Can you acknowledge that he has started 21 games? I mean, you can't really argue against facts, right?
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With the team's good ground game, he couldn't outduel Marcus Mariota when he was going against the worst pass defense in the NFL.
Yeah, I was disappointed Fields gave up that touchdown to Patterson on special teams.
Why do you think the Bears run the ball as well as they do?
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What the fuck are you talking about?
Did you or did you not say Justin Fields has had 15ish starts in his NFL career?
In 2021 and 2022, Justin Fields has had 21 starts. He started 10 fucking games in 2021. He has started 11 fucking games in 2022. That is 21 fucking games that he has started. If you don't count this past fucking Sunday, that's 20.
21 - 15 is 6 games. So, you were trying to short him 6 fucking games started over his NFL career.
Maybe we're talking about 2 different things or something. Doesn't matter. I need to get back to work.
Fuck, man. Can you acknowledge that he has started 21 games? I mean, you can't really argue against facts, right?
I’m going to try to simplify this for you. How many starts did he have under his belt week 1? Also, did the first 8 games count?
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With the team's good ground game, he couldn't outduel Marcus Mariota when he was going against the worst pass defense in the NFL.
For the record, Montgomery averaged 3.9 YPC. Fields 4.7. Ebner like 1.5.
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I’m going to try to simplify this for you. How many starts did he have under his belt week 1? Also, did the first 8 games count?
Week 1 of 2022? He had 10 starts at the beginning of week 1 of 2022. Because he had 10 starts in 2021.
What first 8 games? Again, what the fuck are you talking about? And what does that have to do with 15ish?
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Conclusion: math is hard. Colin Cowherd has good opinions. Memes are bad. Name calling is good.
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Can someone on here please help me with Tempo math? I like to think I'm pretty good at math, and I can't understand this shit at all.
What the fuck...
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Can someone on here please help me with Tempo math? I like to think I'm pretty good at math, and I can't understand this shit at all.
What the fuck...
Hard to argue with Colin Cowherd Math. That's 3d Level Chess there. Too complex for us low thinkers.
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Hard to argue with Colin Cowherd Math. That's 3d Level Chess there. Too complex for us low thinkers.
I guess so. Wow.
I honestly don't know how one can argue that 10 + 11 is not 21, but here we are.
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Yeah, I was disappointed Fields gave up that touchdown to Patterson on special teams.
Why do you think the Bears run the ball as well as they do?
Because they run the wing T and nobody else does.
Atlanta knew he couldn't throw, so they slowed down his run game. And he's injured.
And that was a nice first salvo using the basketball analysts column. He said the same thing last week. We'll see what he says after yesterday's game, if he writes a column.
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For the record, Montgomery averaged 3.9 YPC. Fields 4.7. Ebner like 1.5.
And Fields had 18 carries. Leading the team week in and week out. He's a great runner, but that is not sustainable.
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Because they run the wing T and nobody else does.
Atlanta knew he couldn't throw, so they slowed down his run game. And he's injured.
And that was a nice first salvo using the basketball analysts column. He said the same thing last week. We'll see what he says after yesterday's game, if he writes a column.
Don't forget Colin Cowherd's steaming pile of hot take on this one.
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Don't forget Colin Cowherd's steaming pile of hot take on this one.
I listened to that mouthpiece for about 3 minutes years ago. That was the end of it.
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I listened to that mouthpiece for about 3 minutes years ago. That was the end of it.
My stupid brother in law likes that shit. Watches Skip and Shannon too. Barf.
I gave him 2 episodes. Which is way more that he deserved.
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Week 1 of 2022? He had 10 starts at the beginning of week 1 of 2022. Because he had 10 starts in 2021.
What first 8 games? Again, what the fuck are you talking about? And what does that have to do with 15ish?
It’s not a difficult concept. Figure it out or don’t. He didn’t have 21 starts under his belt week 1, 2, 3 etc. And those weeks are part of the metric.
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And Fields had 18 carries. Leading the team week in and week out. He's a great runner, but that is not sustainable.
I’ve never said I want him running it 18x. That’s too much. 8-12 is doable.
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Hard to argue with Colin Cowherd Math. That's 3d Level Chess there. Too complex for us low thinkers.
JFC are you stupid. Again, the you scoffed at the 20 others I’ve presented in the past few weeks as well. It’s easy to be “right” when no one else’s opinion carries any weight in your eyes.
And for the 1,900th time, I realize Fields has a ways to go as a pocket passer…….
But not acknowledging that everything else around him is trash isn’t being fair to the kid. You expect him to be Patrick Mahomes and he’s not that, definitely not yet. He also doesn’t have Andy Reid, Travis Kelce, or Tyreek Hill.
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You guys have to be trolling me, it’s the only logical answer. Congrats on elite level trolling, I guess.
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You continually say it is someone else's fault.
Also, Getsy is hamstrung by what he can call. The line sucks
You don’t say…
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It’s not a difficult concept. Figure it out or don’t. He didn’t have 21 starts under his belt week 1, 2, 3 etc. And those weeks are part of the metric.
Oh. I think I get it now. I didn't understand where you were going with it, and now I do.
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You have called names throughout since you are so heavily invested in Mitch Fields. Do you call Parkins names on the Algonquin Chevrolet The Score Text Line?
Yep. Definitely a troll job. Congrats. You’re an elite troll.
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Can someone on here please help me with Tempo math? I like to think I'm pretty good at math, and I can't understand this shit at all.
What the fuck...
He didn’t have 21 starts until a few days ago. He didn’t have 21 start week 1, which also counts as part of the time frame.
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He didn’t have 21 starts until a few days ago. He didn’t have 21 start week 1, which also counts as part of the time frame.
I said I got it.
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Hard to argue with Colin Cowherd Math. That's 3d Level Chess there. Too complex for us low thinkers.
Unless I missed it, still haven’t seen PAMan’s list of players he wants back as starters the next couple years.
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I said I got it.
Between trying to keep up with you guys and giving my kitchen a hardcore deep cleaning I could have missed something.
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Between trying to keep up with you guys and giving my kitchen a hardcore deep cleaning I could have missed something.
Look at the top of this page.
Good luck with your kitchen
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JFC are you stupid.
https://youtu.be/qN7gDRjTNf4?t=46
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Look at the top of this page.
Good luck with your kitchen
I’ve kicked it’s ass. But I didn’t come out unscathed.
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I’ve kicked it’s ass. But I didn’t come out unscathed.
Well done
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I’ve never said I want him running it 18x.
Not sustainable. They're going to get that man killed.
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Robert Saleh refuses to commit to #2 overall pick Zack Wilson as the starting quarterback of the 6-4 (winning) NY Jets this week.
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Robert Saleh refuses to commit to #2 overall pick Zack Wilson as the starting quarterback of the 6-4 (winning) NY Jets this week.
Good for him. That is coaching. Just can't play a guy because where he was drafted. Lot of crappy QBs out there Tempo. It is why the Wing T is coming back into vogue. They may have to change the words to the Bear fight song.
There was a discussion during the USC-UCLA broadcast that, with all these mobile QBs, you need backups who can run to fit into those offenses as opposed to Chase Daniels types.
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Good for him. That is coaching. Just can't play a guy because where he was drafted. Lot of crappy QBs out there Tempo. It is why the Wing T is coming back into vogue. They may have to change the words to the Bear fight song.
There was a discussion during the USC-UCLA broadcast that, with all these mobile QBs, you need backups who can run to fit into those offenses as opposed to Chase Daniels types.
Was that where I heard there are only a handful of mobile qbs in the NFL and there aren't any mobile back-ups for the starter if the starter has to sit.
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Bring back Mitch to back up Justin.
I ain’t bullshittin
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Was that where I heard there are only a handful of mobile qbs in the NFL and there aren't any mobile back-ups for the starter if the starter has to sit.
Maybe you heard it on The Herd, with Colin Cowherd?
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Instead of poster ban bets, the bet should be loser has to watch Colin Cowherd’s show for 2 weeks.
That is a bet nobody wants to lose. Well, except Tempo.
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Instead of poster ban bets, the bet should be loser has to watch Colin Cowherd’s show for 2 weeks.
That is a bet nobody wants to lose. Well, except Tempo.
I'd rather have to clean Tempo's kitchen than have to watch that.
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Good for him. That is coaching. Just can't play a guy because where he was drafted. Lot of crappy QBs out there Tempo. It is why the Wing T is coming back into vogue. They may have to change the words to the Bear fight song.
There was a discussion during the USC-UCLA broadcast that, with all these mobile QBs, you need backups who can run to fit into those offenses as opposed to Chase Daniels types.
So you just admitted that the prototypical pocket passer is a thing of the past. I know, I know, “but he can’t throw!” It makes sense the running would come quicker than the pocket passing.
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Instead of poster ban bets, the bet should be loser has to watch Colin Cowherd’s show for 2 weeks.
That is a bet nobody wants to lose. Well, except Tempo.
You guys can squeeze 40 pounds of meme out of a 6oz bag. I don’t watch Colin Cowherd, or listen to him. He was just one of (many) links I provided in which people felt he was a burgeoning superstar. It’s called Google. Search: “Justin Fields Superstar.” Boom…
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Bring back Mitch to back up Justin.
I ain’t bullshittin
He’d be the ideal backup to Justin.
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So if anyone wants to some really good analysis on Justin Fields, here is Trent Dilfer who watches Bears film every week to analyze Fields’ play. I mean he’s no PAMan when it comes to analysis, but he’s pretty good.
Also, Dilfer apparently runs a QB camp and has seen virtually every big name prospect come through over a good period of time. He once said Fields was his 2nd favorite to ever come through the camp (and virtually all of the big names have been through).
https://www.audacy.com/stations/670thescore/shows/parkins-spiegel-show-9ab0d/episodes/779a76bb55c6?action=AUTOPLAY_FULL&actionContentId=101-455
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https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/trent-dilfer-says-bears-justin-fields-best-elite-11-qb-ever?amp
"Of all the guys we've had, and Joey's [Jonathan Roberts] evaluated over 700 quarterbacks for 12 straight years. Justin [Fields] is his number one all-time favorite and says 'I will put my life that Justin Fields will be successful,'" Dilfer said.
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So you just admitted that the prototypical pocket passer is a thing of the past.
I do not believe that is remotely close to even being accurate.
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Ugh, if the link for Dilfer doesn’t work. Just got to program history and click on 4:00.
Good, fair, balanced critique of Justin Fields.
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So if anyone wants to some really good analysis on Justin Fields, here is Trent Dilfer who watches Bears film every week to analyze Fields’ play. I mean he’s no PAMan when it comes to analysis, but he’s pretty good.
Also, Dilfer apparently runs a QB camp and has seen virtually every big name prospect come through over a good period of time. He once said Fields was his 2nd favorite to ever come through the camp (and virtually all of the big names have been through).
https://www.audacy.com/stations/670thescore/shows/parkins-spiegel-show-9ab0d/episodes/779a76bb55c6?action=AUTOPLAY_FULL&actionContentId=101-455
We can tell based on Fields' passing for games 1-21 (avoiding the math) that Dilfer does just as shitty a job at his camp as he did as an NFL QB.
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I do not believe that is remotely close to even being accurate.
You literally just said mobile quarterbacks are changing the game and you need backups who are more like the starters.
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We can tell based on Fields' passing for games 1-21 (avoiding the math) that Dilfer does just as shitty a job at his camp as he did as an NFL QB.
So that makes it about 0 for 30 on acceptable opinions for PAMan. JFC get a hold of yourself. And people think I have a massive ego.
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The same guy who fell for a click-bait headline on Tom Thayer dismisses literally every other opinion (no matter how qualified) out of hand.
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You literally just said mobile quarterbacks are changing the game and you need backups who are more like the starters.
You cannot tell me that whatever it is Justin Fields is doing is remotely close to Jackson, Allen, Tua, Hurts, Mahomes. I could go on about guys who still are pocket passers, because they are actual QBs, but you have to be cognizant of the run. Yeah, if you have Jackson or Allen, bringing in Chase Daniels to be your back up does you zero good. There are still guys Chase Daniel can backup and run their regular offense (poorly, as most backups do).
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So that makes it about 0 for 30 on acceptable opinions for PAMan. JFC get a hold of yourself. And people think I have a massive ego.
Trent Dilfer has no agenda in using Justin Fields to pimp his crap camp. Ok, chief.
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The same guy who fell for a click-bait headline on Tom Thayer dismisses literally every other opinion (no matter how qualified) out of hand.
Please link to Stephen A. Smith next....
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You cannot tell me that whatever it is Justin Fields is doing is remotely close to Jackson, Allen, Tua, Hurts, Mahomes. I could go on about guys who still are pocket passers, because they are actual QBs, but you have to be cognizant of the run. Yeah, if you have Jackson or Allen, bringing in Chase Daniels to be your back up does you zero good. There are still guys Chase Daniel can backup and run their regular offense (poorly, as most backups do).
Mark Andrews, Hollywood Brown, Stephon Diggs, Gabriel Davis, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, Travis Kelce, AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Dallas Goeddert. And all have far superior offensive lines. I’m not saying he’s a better all around quarterback than them, but I’m not sure any of them do better than Fields is doing with this group.
You really think Tua would be amazing with these “weapons,” and Fields’ line? Lol. Everyone wanted to get rid of Tua before this year. A lot of people wanted Gardner Minshew over Hurts not long ago.
You really must be trolling me. I should stop biting on your stinky bait.
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Mark Andrews, Hollywood Brown, Stephon Diggs, Gabriel Davis, Tyreek Hill, Jalen Waddle, Travis Kelce, AJ Brown, Devonta Smith, Dallas Goeddert. And all have far superior offensive lines. I’m not saying he’s a better all around quarterback than them, but I’m not sure any of them do better than Fields is doing with this group.
You really think Tua would be amazing with these “weapons,” and Fields’ line? Lol. Everyone wanted to get rid of Tua before this year. A lot of people wanted Gardner Minshew over Hurts not long ago.
You really must be trolling me. I should stop biting on your stinky bait.
I thought we were talking about backups and running the offense in place for more mobile QBs.
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I like how you then switched lanes, which is a well documented Tempo tactic.
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I like how you then switched lanes, which is a well documented Tempo tactic.
You’re the one who brought up those QBs
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You cannot tell me that whatever it is Justin Fields is doing is remotely close to Jackson, Allen, Tua, Hurts, Mahomes. I could go on about guys who still are pocket passers, because they are actual QBs,
Remember this post, Chief?
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You, Mn, and maybe Custard (he’s a lot more cryptic) are literally the only 3 people I’ve heard in the last month that remain unconvinced Fields “can be an NFL quarterback.”
I got better things to do on Sundays than watch the Bears as they currently exist
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I got better things to do on Sundays than watch the Bears as they currently exist
Justin Fields is pretty fun to watch (but not yet a finished product).
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So did PAMan ever provide the list of Bears OL/Receivers he wants back as long-term starters? Don’t think he did.
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Also don’t think he answered my question on whether or not Fields can catch his own perfectly thrown pass on 4th down (hey EQ).
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Remember this post, Chief?
Yeah, in the context of backup QBs running their offense in response to your particularly dumb claim pocket passers are obsolete.
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Justin Fields is pretty fun to watch (but not yet a finished product).
True. I can't remember the last time I laughed like I did when Fields hit the guy in the back of the head.
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Yeah, in the context of backup QBs running their offense in response to your particularly dumb claim pocket passers are obsolete.
Bullshit, you don’t get say “whatever it is that Fields does, blah blah blah, because they are real QBs” and say “context” because you also said more words. I never said pocket passers are obsolete. I’m saying mobile quarterbacks are changing the game. And by the way, so did you…
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True. I can't remember the last time I laughed like I did when Fields hit the guy in the back of the head.
JFC you are dumb. I will say that he tends to hit guys in the helmet too often, but if that’s what you’re walking away with when watching Fields you are truly an idiot.
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JFC you are dumb. I will say that he tends to hit guys in the helmet too often, but if that’s what you’re walking away with when watching Fields you are truly an idiot.
Tell me you didn't laugh. He really nailed the guy.
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Tell me you didn't laugh. He really nailed the guy.
I’ve enjoyed his electrifying play and athleticism more, but if that’s where you find your enjoyment, who am I to stop you.
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Bullshit, you don’t get say “whatever it is that Fields does, blah blah blah, because they are real QBs” and say “context” because you also said more words. I never said pocket passers are obsolete. I’m saying mobile quarterbacks are changing the game. And by the way, so did you…
I never said that. The point was that if you build your offense around a mobile QB, you better have a mobile back up. You are the worst at reading. Just like how you allegedly watch games and didn't see them stretching out Fields hamstring.
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Also don’t think he answered my question on whether or not Fields can catch his own perfectly thrown pass on 4th down (hey EQ).
Trick question. No such thing as a Fields perfectly thrown ball.
As for the other question, was actually working a real job parts of the day. I'll get to it.
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I’ve enjoyed his electrifying play and athleticism more, but if that’s where you find your enjoyment, who am I to stop you.
I enjoy his athleticism also, and the guy is tough as shit.
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I never said that. The point was that if you build your offense around a mobile QB, you better have a mobile back up. You are the worst at reading. Just like how you allegedly watch games and didn't see them stretching out Fields hamstring.
You’re going to write this, then tell me I’m “out of context.”
[You cannot tell me that whatever it is Justin Fields is doing is remotely close to Jackson, Allen, Tua, Hurts, Mahomes.]
Seriously, eat a bag of dicks.
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I enjoy his athleticism also, and the guy is tough as shit.
Whoa…a compliment from Mn. This is progress.
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You’re going to write this, then tell me I’m “out of context.”
[You cannot tell me that whatever it is Justin Fields is doing is remotely close to Jackson, Allen, Tua, Hurts, Mahomes.]
Seriously, eat a bag of dicks.
Resorting to bag a dick eating means I win! Yeah, Fields is not even a QB. He's Wing Back right now. They should make a special position for him for the Pro Bowl. If he survives the season.
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He's had his 20 starts.
What's the benchmark now ? And it should be a little higher than 'can be an NFL QB'.
Kyle Long says Justin Fields is a “superstar.” But PAMan and Mn know better.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8k2GHyHX/1-E392-F40-1730-4-E14-95-B1-8-DB015119-BA2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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Kyle Long says Justin Fields is a “superstar.” But PAMan and Mn know better.
(https://i.postimg.cc/8k2GHyHX/1-E392-F40-1730-4-E14-95-B1-8-DB015119-BA2.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
That was last week.
This week is
kyle
@Ky1eLong
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Nov 20
I don’t like this
with a video of JFC on the cart going down the hallway.
And separate tweets that players need to document injuries for any workmans comp claims.
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That was last week.
This week is
kyle
@Ky1eLong
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Nov 20
I don’t like this
with a video of JFC on the cart going down the hallway.
And separate tweets that players need to document injuries for any workmans comp claims.
What’s your point?
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LOL
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What’s your point?
The point I've said all along. JFC is going to get killed in the offense designed around his running ability.
And now Kyle Long is reminding players to file any info that may apply to workmans comp. claims.
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The point I've said all along. JFC is going to get killed in the offense designed around his running ability.
And now Kyle Long is reminding players to file any info that may apply to workmans comp. claims.
Explain Lamar Jackson.
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Explain Lamar Jackson.
Is he sitting this weekend with a dislocated shoulder ?
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Is he sitting this weekend with a dislocated shoulder ?
Usually when he's out it's diarrhea or something.
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Usually when he's out it's diarrhea or something.
At least that's short lived. Would you suit up with diarrhea ? I think so.
Has JFC hurt his shoulder 3 times this year ?
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Would you suit up with diarrhea ?
Absolutely. The day my bowels kept me from playing would be the day I retired.
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Is he sitting this weekend with a dislocated shoulder ?
I think you just made my point for me.
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I think you just made my point for me.
Happy to oblige. I guess.
🤷♂️
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Starting to warm up to the idea of trading down in the draft. Sooooo many needs. And unfortunately not a great FA class.