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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Miles Leonard on November 06, 2022, 06:00:24 PM
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Just over 24 hours left until the opener.
Basketball is back, gontlemenz!
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Let’s hope it doesn’t turn out like their scrimmage a couple of years ago…
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Went over to Loyalty to read some stuff and some familiar names there that frequented the board here in the past.
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Went over to Loyalty to read some stuff and some familiar names there that frequented the board here in the past.
Like who?
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DM them and tell them to come over here. Unless it’s Strix.
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Or Mamador.
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Like who?
Fuckin losers that's who
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Like who?
Jason88cubs, doowink, Miles Leonard, Breal is occasionally there when/if some insider info is needed lol, of course Dan’s dumbass, Ramrod sounds familiar, and maybe a couple more
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DM them and tell them to come over here. Unless it’s Strix.
I might start doing some recruiting 😂
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Jason88cubs, doowink, Miles Leonard, Breal is occasionally there when/if some insider info is needed lol, of course Dan’s dumbass, Ramrod sounds familiar, and maybe a couple more
JSON and Miles are both here.
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Other than the troll Dumbfcknic this place is fine.
The other sites do too much nuthugging of players and staff, and are overmoderated.
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Just picked up 3 tickets to the game tonight. $6/each on Stubhub.
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Just picked up 3 tickets to the game tonight. $6/each on Stubhub.
nice! I hope you and Pman enjoy your coors lights!
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nice! I hope you and Pman enjoy your coors lights!
I’ll piss in his… for you and me! 😂
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No way you got Coors Light Elite tickets for 6 bucks.
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Nice to have basketball back. Haven’t been to Loyalty in forever. Didn’t post much there to begin with. This board could use new faces though, so send some this way. Maybe I’ll peek into loyalty if I can figure out my password.
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I am unable to post at Loyalty. I don’t remember ever causing much of a ruckus there lol.
A few names I recognized, but not many.
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I’ll piss in his… for you and me! 😂
I'd switch the cans and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
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Miles Leonard
You mean the guy who started this thread?
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What time is the game and what channel? C'mon people.
Yeah, of course I can look it up.
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What time is the game and what channel? C'mon people.
Yeah, of course I can look it up.
Got your back. Illinois game on ESPN U at 8PM Central time. Bleeping northwest suburb of Illinois AKA the dirty 4 letter word, Whiny Fran and his whiny bitches, and XXXX vs Bethune-Cookman at 6PM. Get that game over with early and get to the Illini.
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You mean the guy who started this thread?
😂 yeah him!
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I'd switch the cans and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference.
😂
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Illini 87-62
EIU has a former Illini on the team
Jermaine Hamlin
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Got your back. Illinois game on ESPN U at 8PM Central time. Bleeping northwest suburb of Illinois AKA the dirty 4 letter word, Whiny Fran and his whiny bitches, and XXXX vs Bethune-Cookman at 6PM. Get that game over with early and get to the Illini.
Normally I would cheer ESPNU showing the game. But tonight it does me no good. Looks like a recording to watch later.
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I joined Loyalty when this place was down/in transition. It’s not as bad as it used to be when all the fraudulent insiders like BTF and Saltygrapes and the regular shmucks like Groundhogday/Second and Chalmers/DaytonIllini and Mattcoldagelli were running wild there.
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Got your back. Illinois game on ESPN U at 8PM Central time. Bleeping northwest suburb of Illinois AKA the dirty 4 letter word, Whiny Fran and his whiny bitches, and XXXX vs Bethune-Cookman at 6PM. Get that game over with early and get to the Illini.
Thank you!
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Illini 87-62
EIU has a former Illini on the team
Jermaine Hamlin
Nice take, jasn88cubs
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Nice take, jasn88cubs
LOL.
You mean jasn88cub can type without making a typo?
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Also I agree with Carl wherever he is.
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LOL.
You mean jasn88cub can type without making a typo?
I've taken typing classes
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I've taken typing classes
That teacher deserves a raise! Kudos to you for taking the class.
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How much extension do you guys add? I add an hour to football recordings.
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Let's goooooo. 10-man rotation run the score to triple digits no injuries.
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Color guy ripping Hawkins D.
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FT shooting going to be an issue?
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Color guy ripping Hawkins D.
At least he’s not sucking it.
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we are bad from 3
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Harris has energy
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FT shooting going to be an issue?
Looking like it might be
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No sight of Robb anywhere on the baselines. He honestly might have died guys…
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No sight of Robb anywhere on the baselines. He honestly might have died guys…
Maybe he is off investigating Royko's purported demise. Mystery Champaign, starring Robb.
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Yes, FT shooting is gonna be an issue this season it appears.
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That dude could barely fit into his cheerleader outfit. May as well have my sorry ass out there.
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I joined Loyalty when this place was down/in transition. It’s not as bad as it used to be when all the fraudulent insiders like BTF and Saltygrapes and the regular shmucks like Groundhogday/Second and Chalmers/DaytonIllini and Mattcoldagelli were running wild there.
Matt Coldagelli Is the man. Did he use his real name for his username?
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Yes, FT shooting is gonna be an issue this season it appears.
Like it is every year.
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A little ragged.
7 players with 10 min or more.
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A little ragged.
7 players with 10 min or more.
Yeah, a little ragged. Would like to see RJ knock down those open shots.
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Unsure whether giving up 31 points to EIU at half was part of the game plan
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Man, it's hard to watch Marty Simmons try to walk around on the sideline.
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Nice pass Hawkins.
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Man, it's hard to watch Marty Simmons try to walk around on the sideline.
Yeah what he used to be to what he is now is really sad. You’d think he’d wanna lose that weight. He definitely knows how to and would definitely be beneficial.
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I don’t have ESPNU I just found out. 🤦🏻
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Really like Sincere Harris’ game.
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Unsure whether giving up 31 points to EIU at half was part of the game plan
They were winning 15 and should win easily. Stop being so concerned with style points
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Really like Sincere Harris’ game.
Sincerely.
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Yeah what he used to be to what he is now is really sad. You’d think he’d wanna lose that weight. He definitely knows how to and would definitely be beneficial.
He was some kind of high school player. Legendary in Illinois.
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He was some kind of high school player. Legendary in Illinois.
Yes, he is an original OG and Illinois legend. Went to play for Bobby Knight at Indiana. Set all kinds of Illinois high school records and won a state championship for Lawrenceville. Starred at Indiana State after transferring from Indiana.
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Dainja playing like he wants some minutes.
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They were winning 15 and should win easily. Stop being so concerned with style points
So we should not be concerned with FTs and team defense. Ok.
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Yes, he is an original OG and Illinois legend. Went to play for Bobby Knight at Indiana. Set all kinds of Illinois high school records and won a state championship for Lawrenceville. Starred at Indiana State after transferring from Indiana.
Back to back undefeated seasons and two titles IIRC.
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So we should not be concerned with FTs and team defense. Ok.
Lol
Justin Fields only threw for 151 yards, he can’t be any good! You sound like a bad Bears caller.
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Lol
Justin Fields only threw for 139 yards, he can’t be any good! You sound like a bad Bears caller.
He isn't a passer....yet
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Yes, I wouldn’t be concerned with FT shooting and team defense in 30 point blowouts. Especially in early November.
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He isn't a passer....yet
You clearly don’t watch the fucking games.
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https://twitter.com/chicagobears/status/1589334159524122624?s=46&t=J6jVy2odb_Bi9-hX3-CTVQ
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https://twitter.com/robg_tape/status/1589697748936232960?s=46&t=J6jVy2odb_Bi9-hX3-CTVQ
Watch the elite ball handling and then delivers a strike on the run. Kid is developing rapidly. Just because you’re only looking at the box score doesn’t mean he isn’t out there throwing great passes.
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https://twitter.com/paytonsun/status/1589673769681186816?s=46&t=J6jVy2odb_Bi9-hX3-CTVQ
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Sorry, but I can't let this go, because I'm a small petty man. Marty Simmons transferred to Evansvillle after Knight ran him off not Indiana St. That was another guy some of you may have heard of from French Lick. Also just to go on Simmons played for Ron Feller at L'ville who was actually even crazier than Knight if you can believe it.
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https://twitter.com/clayharbs82/status/1589444859748036610?s=46&t=J6jVy2odb_Bi9-hX3-CTVQ
You clearly haven’t watched the last couple of games. Just because he hasn’t thrown 40x for 300+ yards doesn’t mean he hasn’t been throwing it well. He’s been pretty darn good throwing it lately. And no interceptions in 4 of the last 6 games.
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Sorry, but I can't let this go, because I'm a small petty man. Marty Simmons transferred to Evansvillle after Knight ran him off not Indiana St. That was another guy some of you may have heard of from French Lick. Also just to go on Simmons played for Ron Feller at L'ville who was actually even crazier than Knight if you can believe it.
Haha yeah; I missed that. It was Evansville for Simmons.
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Sorry, but I can't let this go, because I'm a small petty man. Marty Simmons transferred to Evansvillle after Knight ran him off not Indiana St. That was another guy some of you may have heard of from French Lick. Also just to go on Simmons played for Ron Feller at L'ville who was actually even crazier than Knight if you can believe it.
Oops, yes Evansville. My bad
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He isn't a passer....yet
https://twitter.com/mainteamsports2/status/1589354304275636224?s=46&t=J6jVy2odb_Bi9-hX3-CTVQ
buT hEs NOt tHroWiNG fOr 300+ YaRDs!
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Can Justin Fields shoot free throws?
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Overall -very rought at spots. Shitty FT shooting. But I like what I see overall. Scrappy D and shot blocking, fast paced, etc. Team is long and athletic. We can be scary if we clean things up and improve week to week.
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We have a lot of kids who can make plays. Will be interesting to see how they develop.
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I don’t have ESPNU I just found out. 🤦🏻
I finally switched from cable to YoutubeTV which seems to have quite a few more sports channels in the standard package.
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I finally switched from cable to YoutubeTV which seems to have quite a few more sports channels in the standard package.
I got an offer in the mail to try a cable company who I already have internet through which was considerably cheaper overall than YouTubeTV which I’d been using for several years. Seemed very comparable. But the user interface blows and I’m missing ESPNU which caused me to miss this game and I think the UCLA game is on that as well. I’m going to send this shit back and get YTTV again. It’s superior in every way.
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Just watched the highlights on YouTube. Nothing really stood out in the limited amount of plays I saw other than sloppy ball handling and Mayer looked like he had concrete shoes on with bad body language and was busy throwing a fit after a missed basket while the EIU transition offense ran right past him. No longer doubting the reports of he and Underwood having disagreements about what “Everyday Guys” means. Dainja had himself a game after a slow start. Need RJ to wake up.
It looks like we have a lot of good pieces, but first time under the bright lights was a struggle for the yutes.
(https://media.tenor.com/56r1dfN9uxMAAAAC/my-cousin.gif)
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Watching the Illini fanbase turn on Mayer is going to be hilarious. All you had to do is look at his stats at Baylor and realize a 6'9 guy that shoots under 40% from the FG is a negative on the court.
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Illini 87-62
EIU has a former Illini on the team
Jermaine Hamlin
nailed the Illini score, off 5 on EIU score
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Can Justin Fields shoot free throws?
Probably better than the Illini.
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Overall -very rought at spots. Shitty FT shooting. But I like what I see overall. Scrappy D and shot blocking, fast paced, etc. Team is long and athletic. We can be scary if we clean things up and improve week to week.
Yeah, but what do you think about Justin Fields as it is only November and the game was a blow out?
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Yes, I wouldn’t be concerned with FT shooting and team defense in 30 point blowouts. Especially in early November.
You should be concerned with FT shooting regardless of the time of year. It has fucked the Illini come March.
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Sorry, but I can't let this go, because I'm a small petty man. Marty Simmons transferred to Evansvillle after Knight ran him off not Indiana St. That was another guy some of you may have heard of from French Lick. Also just to go on Simmons played for Ron Feller at L'ville who was actually even crazier than Knight if you can believe it.
Welcome. I am sure you will get used to the guy who complains about people obsessing about him obsessing about someone else's Justin Fields thoughts in a basketball game thread.
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Sorry, but I can't let this go, because I'm a small petty man. Marty Simmons transferred to Evansvillle after Knight ran him off not Indiana St. That was another guy some of you may have heard of from French Lick. Also just to go on Simmons played for Ron Feller at L'ville who was actually even crazier than Knight if you can believe it.
Sorry, but I can't let this go. It was Ron Felling at Lawrenceville.
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Welcome. I am sure you will get used to the guy who complains about people obsessing about him obsessing about someone else's Justin Fields thoughts in a basketball game thread.
I swear to God, Tempo is getting dumber every day.
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Simmons is one fat mthrfcker.
WTF. Like you have to try really hard to get that fat.
(https://www.gannett-cdn.com/-mm-/dd0cc84b1bbd7dcd948924e5b4c95a9d421fe6f9/c=0-0-2284-3046/local/-/media/2018/01/06/INGroup/Evansville/636508602273935157-20180106-uevsbradley-mensbb-09.JPG?width=660&height=881&fit=crop&format=pjpg&auto=webp)
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You should be concerned with FT shooting regardless of the time of year. It has fucked the Illini come March.
And 15 turnovers, Andre Clark had 5, means missed opportunities for style points.
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You should be concerned with FT shooting regardless of the time of year. It has fucked the Illini come March.
Yeah; not gonna get worked up about FT shooting in a 30 point win in early November. A zillion other things to worry about.
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Welcome. I am sure you will get used to the guy who complains about people obsessing about him obsessing about someone else's Justin Fields thoughts in a basketball game thread.
I drew an analogy between your “but we weren’t perfect in a 30 point win in the first game of the year with a brand new team” and your “but how can he be playing well if he didn’t even throw for 300 yards” take. They’re both stupid. And when you said “he can’t throw…yet” it highlighted the fact you haven’t watched him the past few weeks. He’s thrown the ball very well. You deserved to be hammered for your lousy “Mitch Fields” takes. There were national analysts on the airwaves Monday saying he’s poised to be the NFLs next superstar.
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I swear to God, Tempo is getting dumber every day.
Says the guys who’s highjacked multiple forums and threads with his “I’m outta here” tantrums, and even died once then came back from the dead.
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Says the guys who’s highjacked multiple forums and threads with his “I’m outta here” tantrums, and even died once then came back from the dead.
Haha, yeah you got me there.
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My question. Is Justin Fields going to be discussed in every basketball game thread? This will be helpful info as to whether I bother participating.
I do agree in that there isn't a whole lot to be taken from early November basketball. I honestly rarely watch it.
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I don’t have ESPNU I just found out. 🤦🏻
Here ya go. A couple on BTN before UCLA on ESPNU.
(https://i.ibb.co/jryRs2L/20221108-092024.png) (https://ibb.co/YLcZwMt)
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Out of the freshmen I like Sincere Harris the best he's long super quick and a tenacious defender. Hit a 3 as well. The missed dunk was pretty funny and I'm sure that will be a hoot at the film session
Clark looked a bit nervous and didn't show much to me, his defense was bad and a lot of stupid passing turnovers and ball control issues
Epps looks like he can ball, like one of those stocky short good handling guards that Purdue always seems to have
Rodgers looks like one of those tweener forwards that can cause a lot of problems for other teams, he just needs to adjust to the game speed and practice his free throws as he's going to get a lot of opportunities from there
Dainja definitely showed some things in the second half. Hard to tell with big men going against inferior competition but he grabbed many more rebounds than I thought he had.
Overall a very very promising looking class after just one game against a pretty crap opponent
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Also can't wait to see the boys in Vegas, anyone else going?
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My question. Is Justin Fields going to be discussed in every basketball game thread? This will be helpful info as to whether I bother participating.
I do agree in that there isn't a whole lot to be taken from early November basketball. I honestly rarely watch it.
No, just the ones where PAMan acts like the “but he can’t throw from the pocket” or the “what about the defense?” caller to AM radio shows the day after Justin Fields does something no other quarterback has ever done.
“We won by 30 on opening night with a brand new team? bUt wHAt ABouT tHe FrEE tHrOw sHOoTiNg? That’ll cost them in March…”
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My question. Is Justin Fields going to be discussed in every basketball game thread? This will be helpful info as to whether I bother participating.
I do agree in that there isn't a whole lot to be taken from early November basketball. I honestly rarely watch it.
I’ll try to make this my last JF comment in this thread, but it’s only crazier when PAMan is doubling down on his Fields takes when the last couple game threads here have been overflowing with Fields excitement. “But he didn’t even throw for 300 yards against Dallas in a 20 point loss?!”
If someone isn’t excited about Justin Fields after the last 5 games, just go be a Packers fan already.
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In short, PAMan has become the old man yelling at clouds.
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So we should not be concerned with FTs and team defense. Ok.
On opening night? Prolly not.
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Yeah; not gonna get worked up about FT shooting in a 30 point win in early November. A zillion other things to worry about.
Justin Fields is one of them, apparently.
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On opening night? Prolly not.
Well, I recall standing in The Bellagio knowing the Illini would blow the game as I was watching Weber's team brick FT after FT against Va Tech because the guys could not shoot FT all year.
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I’ll try to make this my last JF comment in this thread, but it’s only crazier when PAMan is doubling down on his Fields takes when the last couple game threads here have been overflowing with Fields excitement. “But he didn’t even throw for 300 yards against Dallas in a 20 point loss?!”
If someone isn’t excited about Justin Fields after the last 5 games, just go be a Packers fan already.
Go yell at that loser Danny Parkins on Twitter.
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Lol
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Lol
I know, that was funny!
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Well, I recall standing in The Bellagio knowing the Illini would blow the game as I was watching Weber's team brick FT after FT against Va Tech because the guys could not shoot FT all year.
Don’t let Bruce Weber and Mitch Trubisky trauma haunt you forever.
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Don’t let Bruce Weber and Mitch Trubisky trauma haunt you forever.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it
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Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it
Not sure you have much of an impact on Bears qb play or Illini FT shooting.
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Busting your balls a bit. Chill out and give things some time. Think I saw Ty Rodgers went 1-6? If he goes 4-6 their numbers look more respectable. You’re very impatient and irrational lately.
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Tempo, here are the FT numbers.
J. Shannon 13-15
C. Hawkins 2-4
R. Melendez 1-2
T. Rodgers 1-6
D. Dainja 1-4
S. Harris 0-2
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Tempo, here are the FT numbers.
J. Shannon 13-15
C. Hawkins 2-4
R. Melendez 1-2
T. Rodgers 1-6
D. Dainja 1-4
S. Harris 0-2
So you’re freaking out about two freshmen and a 270 pound big going a combined 2-12 on opening night. Now THAT is something to be worried about!
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To be fair, I’d say your Justin Fields concern (while over the top) was/is more warranted than a poor FT/defense performance on opening night with an all new cast in a 30 point win.
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So you’re freaking out about two freshmen and a 270 pound big going a combined 2-12 on opening night. Now THAT is something to be worried about!
Who do you think teams are going to hack in crunch time?
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To be fair, I’d say your Justin Fields concern (while over the top) was/is more warranted than a poor FT/defense performance on opening night with an all new cast in a 30 point win.
I am always looking at March.
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Sorry, but I can't let this go. It was Ron Felling at Lawrenceville.
Feller?
Forget it, he's rolling.
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Who do you think teams are going to hack in crunch time?
Lol
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Lol
This is not the Low Thinker/High Thinker bit from HQ OG, but Short Term versus Long Term. I'm thinking Super Bowl/Final Four and you are thinking of Danny Parkins' next broadcast.
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After the first 2 games, all these guys are confirming what I saw on their HS tapes.
Harris can be developed. His athleticism, arm length I think will make him a quality player that could play in the NBA.
Sky Clark is Mark Smith 2.0. Looks smooth but isnt very athletic. He’s just a guy.
Epps I thought was more athletic on his tapes than what he’s shown. He too looks like just a guy.
Rodgers imo is like a Draymond Green. Put Green on a great team like the Warriors, and he’s a difference maker. But if you put him on a bad team, he’s not gonna really matter. I think Rodgers needs great players around him to then be able to play his own junkyard dog role. But on a average to IMO bad team like Illinois I don’t see him standing out.
Mayer stinks. His stats at Baylor and age should have told everyone that.
Dainja will struggle vs taller players bc he has no lift. Maybe he can be Shaun Pruitt at best.
Hawkins/Shannon look very good.
Overall team wise this roster reminds me of some mediocre Maryland or Cincinnati teams. Where there were plenty of tall rangy athletic wings but not much shooting. Feels like to me some of the pieces are redundant. Gonna be a bubble or below year. They really should attempt to mimic Syracuse and Syracuse zone. That’s the style they should play. If they play up tempo vs good teams and man-man defense they’ll be really bad
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Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz.
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This is not the Low Thinker/High Thinker bit from HQ OG, but Short Term versus Long Term. I'm thinking Super Bowl/Final Four and you are thinking of Danny Parkins' next broadcast.
No, it’s called not overreacting to minor negatives on opening night (with an all new roster).
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If they are shooting 60% from the line in January, I won’t make fun of you for complaining about it.
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No, it’s called not overreacting to minor negatives on opening night (with an all new roster).
Roster construction has zero to do with free shot shooting. Either you make them, or you don't. Not making them at a good percentage is problematic.
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If they are shooting 60% from the line in January, I won’t make fun of you for complaining about it.
Fair enough
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Roster construction has zero to do with free shot shooting. Either you make them, or you don't. Not making them at a good percentage is problematic.
Again, two freshmen and a 270 pound big who went like 8-9 from the floor had an off night at the line in early November. Stop being a putz.
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Hard to take away much from from a first game against an overmatched opponent.
EIU has a few good kids.
Harris looks like a pleasant surprise.
Clark is skilled, was a little to aggressive at times.
Epps was a a little tentative.
Rodgers had 5 assists and 8 rebounds ...
Dainja looked a little overweight. He has good hands and some ball skills.
Mayer reportedly has been having back problems. Looked stiff and frustrated. He has some length and handles.
RJ shot poorly and looked tentative.
Serven might play some.
Lieb is tall.
Hopefully Hawkins keeps it up. Unless Rodgers develops a shot, he and Shannon are our best players.
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Shannon best player by large margin. He looks like a guy that athletically could get a look in NBA.
I think we can legitimately play 9 guys, but getting them on same page will take time.
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After the first 2 games, all these guys are confirming what I saw on their HS tapes.
Harris can be developed. His athleticism, arm length I think will make him a quality player that could play in the NBA.
Sky Clark is Mark Smith 2.0. Looks smooth but isnt very athletic. He’s just a guy.
Epps I thought was more athletic on his tapes than what he’s shown. He too looks like just a guy.
Rodgers imo is like a Draymond Green. Put Green on a great team like the Warriors, and he’s a difference maker. But if you put him on a bad team, he’s not gonna really matter. I think Rodgers needs great players around him to then be able to play his own junkyard dog role. But on a average to IMO bad team like Illinois I don’t see him standing out.
Mayer stinks. His stats at Baylor and age should have told everyone that.
Dainja will struggle vs taller players bc he has no lift. Maybe he can be Shaun Pruitt at best.
Hawkins/Shannon look very good.
Overall team wise this roster reminds me of some mediocre Maryland or Cincinnati teams. Where there were plenty of tall rangy athletic wings but not much shooting. Feels like to me some of the pieces are redundant. Gonna be a bubble or below year. They really should attempt to mimic Syracuse and Syracuse zone. That’s the style they should play. If they play up tempo vs good teams and man-man defense they’ll be really bad
After watching replays of the first two forays, something tells me this might be more accurate than I’d like to admit. This team is going to rely on a lot of untested players who almost all need to perform to their projections for us to be what we thought we could be. Missing Goode hurts more than we realize. Hawkins isn’t going to make 5 25 footers every game at the end of the shot clock, that’s for goddamned sure.
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So should we put you down for 14 wins also along with your new little friend?
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Hawkins isn’t going to make 5 25 footers every game at the end of the shot clock, that’s for goddamned sure.
Maybe if you watched the game; you'd know those were not at the end of the shot clock?
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18:43 Matthew Mayer Defensive Rebound. 2 - 2
18:40 Coleman Hawkins made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Matthew Mayer. 2 - 5
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11:30 Skyy Clark Defensive Rebound. 14 - 17
11:26 Coleman Hawkins missed Three Point Jumper. 14 - 17
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10:53 Skyy Clark Defensive Rebound. 14 - 17
10:51 Foul on Jermaine Hamlin. 14 - 17
10:51 Official TV Timeout 14 - 17
10:27 Coleman Hawkins made Three Point Jumper. 14 - 20
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9:28 Ty Rodgers Defensive Rebound. 16 - 20
9:01 Coleman Hawkins made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Skyy Clark. 16 - 23
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7:00 Jr. Terrence Shannon Defensive Rebound. 18 - 26
6:45 Coleman Hawkins made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Jayden Epps. 18 - 29
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5:31 RJ Melendez Block. 20 - 31
5:17 Coleman Hawkins made Three Point Jumper. Assisted by Ty Rodgers. 20 - 34
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After watching replays of the first two forays, something tells me this might be more accurate than I’d like to admit.
"Dainja will struggle vs taller players bc he has no lift. Maybe he can be Shaun Pruitt at best."
Dainja and Pruitt are both 6-9 big men with limited hops. End of similarity.
Pruitt had a 7-1 wingspan, Dainja 7-7. Dainja has much better hands. He has handles, passing skills, a face up shot, and can run the court. His issues are watching his weight and conditioning.
"Sky Clark is Mark Smith 2.0. Looks smooth but isnt very athletic. He’s just a guy."
Must be watching someone else. Mark Smith was smooth? The late Mark Smith was smooth. !!!!!!
"Mayer stinks. His stats at Baylor and age should have told everyone that."
He is apparently playing through back problems.
"... Rodgers needs great players around him to then be able to play his own junkyard dog role."
8 rebounds, 5 assists.
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I didn’t say I agreed with all of it. I have some concerns and definitely think there will be some frustrating growing pains. My main hope is that they play well enough to get a decent seed in the tourney because I think they’ll really be rounding into form by then and don’t want to see them get stuck with a 9 seed on the West coast or something. B1G is down again this year so🤞
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I didn’t say I agreed with all of it. I have some concerns and definitely think there will be some frustrating growing pains. My main hope is that they play well enough to get a decent seed in the tourney because I think they’ll really be rounding into form by then and don’t want to see them get stuck with a 9 seed on the West coast or something. B1G is down again this year so🤞
But after one game aren’t you extremely concerned over free-throw shooting?
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One thing is not happening. They are not jacking up desperation threes late in the shot clock. The threes are coming fast as part of offense, and often in transition. If anything they were rushing shots. They missed a lot of lay ups.
Everyone in the current top 9, even the bigs, can handle ball in transition.
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We're going to miss Goode. Hopefully he's ok to go for the bulk of conference play.
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I didn’t say I agreed with all of it. I have some concerns and definitely think there will be some frustrating growing pains. My main hope is that they play well enough to get a decent seed in the tourney because I think they’ll really be rounding into form by then and don’t want to see them get stuck with a 9 seed on the West coast or something. B1G is down again this year so🤞
Certainly will take time to see how it plays out. The only guy on the floor who has been a full time starter in college was Shannon who is a really nice player.
Will be some growing pains for sure.
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But after one game aren’t you extremely concerned over free-throw shooting?
I hope he is because we all should be.
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Not counting Hawkins from 3, the rest of the team was 4-18.
Not counting Shannon at the free shot line, the rest of the team was 5-18.
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Not counting Hawkins from 3, the rest of the team was 4-18.
Not counting Shannon at the free shot line, the rest of the team was 5-18.
Those were pretty much all good looks from 3 within the offense. RJ (0- 5) had a tough night.
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Those were pretty much all good looks from 3 within the offense. RJ (0- 5) had a tough night.
4-18 on "pretty much all good looks" matched the 5-18 on "pretty much all good looks" from the free shot line.
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If we are shooting 30% from three and 50% from line after 5 games, we can start to worry. Will need to assess who is taking the threes, and are they good looks. I am sure they track contested threes, etc.
Free throws are easily correctable.
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4-18 on "pretty much all good looks" matched the 5-18 on "pretty much all good looks" from the free shot line.
Not really a match, since they were different guys.
The missed threes were mostly one guy, RJ, missing wide open looks within the offense.
The missed free throws were largely Rodgers going 1-6. He has poor form, needs work.
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Free throws are easily correctable.
Yet Weber never seemed able to correct his poor free shot taking teams.
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No excuse really for any D1 player to not shoot FTs at 70%.
It is all mechanics and shooting skills training has advanced significantly in past 15 years.
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One thing is not happening. They are not jacking up desperation threes late in the shot clock. The threes are coming fast as part of offense, and often in transition. If anything they were rushing shots. They missed a lot of lay ups.
Everyone in the current top 9, even the bigs, can handle ball in transition.
BuT wHAt aBOut tHe fT shOotING? ThaT’lL hAunT tHem in mARch.
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FT shooting going to be an issue?
Do not make this type of emotionally charged drunken comment during Friday's game vs the KC Roos on BTN 8pm Fri.
;D
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Do not make this type of emotionally charged drunken comment during Friday's game vs the KC Roos on BTN 8pm Fri.
;D
I save my drunken comments for Illini football. I didn't know this would trigger Tempo. He is lonely without having Spark to joust with.
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I save my drunken comments for Illini football. I didn't know this would trigger Tempo. He is lonely without having Spark to joust with.
But who will speak for the missed free-throws???
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But who will speak for the missed free-throws???
Hopefully the mean, trash coach yelled at the kids this week, made them practice their free shots, and ran them until they threw up if they kept missing them.
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Mayer looked frustrated as hell. Throwing up arms like he got fouled on every shot. Come on man. He did have some really good takes to the rim but just left it short. It was like that for the rest of the guys really. Maybe it was first-game-that-actually-counts jitters.
It’s going to take some time for the mix of vets and frosh to gel. The talent and athleticism are most definitely there though.
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Hopefully the mean, trash coach yelled at the kids this week, made them practice their free shots, and ran them until they threw up if they kept missing them.
I’ll say one thing for ya, you don’t take things personally, which I admire in a poster.
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I’ll say one thing for ya, you don’t take things personally, which I admire in a poster.
It's all good. I love the lively art of conversation.
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Mayer looked frustrated as hell. Throwing up arms like he got fouled on every shot. Come on man. He did have some really good takes to the rim but just left it short. It was like that for the rest of the guys really. Maybe it was first-game-that-actually-counts jitters.
It’s going to take some time for the mix of vets and frosh to gel. The talent and athleticism are most definitely there though.
Agree. They rushed things, forced passes, played too fast at times.
They will settle down.
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Sorry, but I can't let this go. It was Ron Felling at Lawrenceville.
I stand corrected it was Ron Felling not Ron Feller. I'll never believe another goddamn thing Justin Fields tells me.
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I still have a medal I got for being the best free shot shooter on my 8th grade basketball team back in the mid 90s. 92%. I grew up on a farm and was only 5’ 9” and white af. I can still stand there and stripe them 15-20 in a row. No excuses.
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I stand corrected it was Ron Felling not Ron Feller. I'll never believe another goddamn thing Justin Fields tells me.
I'm liking the cut of your jib.
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I stand corrected it was Ron Felling not Ron Feller. I'll never believe another goddamn thing Justin Fields tells me.
Wow. Outstanding post!
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I still have a medal I got for being the best free shot shooter on my 8th grade basketball team back in the mid 90s. 92%. I grew up on a farm and was only 5’ 9” and white af. I can still stand there and stripe them 15-20 in a row. No excuses.
PAMan wants you in the starting rotation.
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PAMan wants you in the starting rotation.
At least on the floor at the end of the game when we know the opponent is going to foul.
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I’m afraid I’ve used all my eligibility
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You should be concerned with FT shooting regardless of the time of year. It has fucked the Illini come March.
This is more than “asking a question.” This is “concern” on Nov. 7th.
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This is more than “asking a question.” This is “concern” on Nov. 7th.
I wonder if he was trolling "you should be concerned..."
Lol
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FT shooting going to be an issue?
The original post on the subject that Tempo conveniently ignored in resurrecting this thread.
Evidence that Mn still has his faculties, Tempo.
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Looking like it might be
Second post on the subject
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Yes, I wouldn’t be concerned with FT shooting and team defense in 30 point blowouts. Especially in early November.
Definitely not one of your better takes.
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The original post on the subject that Tempo conveniently ignored in resurrecting this thread.
Evidence that Mn still has his faculties, Tempo.
Right, the “question” then quickly turned to outright “concern” a post or two later.
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Right, the “question” then quickly turned to outright “concern” a post or two later.
Which was prescient of me. Always trust content from me. Except when you shouldn't.