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General Category => Halas Hall Football Forum => Topic started by: ThePAMan on October 31, 2022, 10:14:04 PM
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WHEN: 11/5 Saturday
TIME: 2:30 PM CDT (your clocks fall back Sunday!)
OPPONENT: Sparty
WHERE: Champaign
TV: BTN (BOOOOOOO) - Cory Provus (play-by-play), Matt Millen
(analyst) and Elise Menaker (reporter)
ODDS: Started o/u 46½ and Illini -13. With MSU suspensions and criminal investigations, it is now o/u 43½ - 42½ and Illini -16½! Hmmm. Currently the weather claims there will be south winds 20 to 30mph. Seems like there will be a lot of runs to burn clock when heading South.
News and Notes stolen from FightingIllini.com:
19-26-2 All time versus Sparty. 10-12-1 @ home. 3-7 last 10, but won the last 2.
Bret "Trash" Bielema is 12-8 in his Illinois career (8-6 Big Ten). It is the best 20-game start for an Illinois head coach since John Mackovic started 13-6-1 in the 1988-89 seasons!
Dad's Day! The 100+-year tradition of Dads Day continues this weekend. The event first started in 1920 by the Dads Association. A “King Dad” will be crowned at halftime of Saturday’s game. Hopefully it will be The PAThey!
Pronounce his name right, bitches!
Tommy DeVito . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . duh-VETO
• Illinois has 47 Illinois natives on its roster.
The Brown bros. are from Canada!
Michigan State head coach Mel Tucker’s wife, the former JoEllyn Haynesworth, is a graduate of the University of Illinois. Now you know!
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Great write up. Hopefully we throttle these punks and stay healthy for a big matchup with Purdont the following week. Hoping Purdue loses to Iowa this weekend to give us some breathing room. Although it would be more fun to have the game on the 12th basically be for the B1G West championship.
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If Devito sucked, Jobu would say so. Illini by 12
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If Devito sucked, Jobu would say so. Illini by 12
Wow. No sleep for the weary. Classic 3 am posting! Well done.
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I looked at the preview in FightingIllini.com yesterday.
For most of us, the "Notes" section is worth a read.
The Nebraska announcers talked about Witherspoon's NFL chances. So ......
We got a commitment from the unranked CB at the end of July, 2019. He showed up in C-U 4 days before fall camp and played in the opener.
From there .....
Played in all 13 games and started three at cornerback
33 tackles, two PBUs on the season
Led the team in special teams tackles (13)
Led the team in kickoff tackles (11)
Only true freshman defender to start a game for Illinois in 2019
Chase-down tackle at the goal line in the fourth quarter vs. No. 6 Wisconsin 10/19/19 led to goal-line stop to help Illinois win 24-23 and complete one of the biggest upsets in Big Ten history
Only true freshman to start a game for Illinois in 2019
Joined the Illini during training camp after initially planning to attend Hutchinson Community College (Kan.)
And from the preview ....
Witherspoon is the highest graded cornerback in the nation by PFF. He has the best coverage grade in the nation and leads the nation in forced incompletions (13) and reception percentage against (29.8, min. 200 coverage snaps).
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Wow. No sleep for the weary. Classic 3 am posting! Well done.
As my old circle of friends used to say, “you’ll get plenty of sleep when you’re dead.”
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As my old circle of friends used to say, “you’ll get plenty of sleep when you’re dead.”
Yeah, I suppose. I just hope you're getting plenty of sleep before you drive people to the airport or whatever. Driving while tired is quite dangerous.
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Losing sleep by posting on here, and thinking about the Bears and Bielema in general, in my shitty opinion, is pretty unhealthy. But that's not really my business, lol
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I don’t require a ton of sleep. And I know when to say when. Unlike my posting style.
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But typically these days, I’d be a sleep at 3am.
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WHEN: 11/5 Saturday
TIME: 2:30 PM CDT (your clocks fall back Sunday!)
OPPONENT: Sparty
WHERE: Champaign
TV: BTN (BOOOOOOO) - Cory Provus (play-by-play), Matt Millen
(analyst) and Elise Menaker (reporter)
ODDS: Started o/u 46½ and Illini -13. With MSU suspensions and criminal investigations, it is now o/u 43½ - 42½ and Illini -16½! Hmmm. Currently the weather claims there will be south winds 20 to 30mph. Seems like there will be a lot of runs to burn clock when heading South.
News and Notes stolen from FightingIllini.com:
19-26-2 All time versus Sparty. 10-12-1 @ home. 3-7 last 10, but won the last 2.
Bret "Trash" Bielema is 12-8 in his Illinois career (8-6 Big Ten). It is the best 20-game start for an Illinois head coach since John Mackovic started 13-6-1 in the 1988-89 seasons!
Dad's Day! The 100+-year tradition of Dads Day continues this weekend. The event first started in 1920 by the Dads Association. A “King Dad” will be crowned at halftime of Saturday’s game. Hopefully it will be The PAThey!
Pronounce his name right, bitches!
Tommy DeVito . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . duh-VETO
• Illinois has 47 Illinois natives on its roster.
The Brown bros. are from Canada!
Michigan State head coach Mel Tucker’s wife, the former JoEllyn Haynesworth, is a graduate of the University of Illinois. Now you know!
Thanks Harv!
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probably been a long time since Illini been a 17 point favorite in a big ten game
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Thanks Harv!
Harv's bit was a post-game bit, not a pre-game bit. Custard does the bball post-game bit.
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Harv's bit was a post-game bit, not a pre-game bit. Custard does the bball post-game bit.
oh right, who was the mentally ill dude who was obsessed with christopher walken that would do the pregame stuff?
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oh right, who was the mentally ill dude who was obsessed with christopher walken that would do the pregame stuff?
Clockwork Orange?
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Pruman91 on loyalty is absolutely batshit
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Pruman91 on loyalty is absolutely batshit
Dude, 99% of the people on loyalty make just about anyone here look sane.
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4 more Michigan St players suspended for our game…
https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34927241/michigan-st-suspends-four-more-players-postgame-scuffle
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I don't like that it is suppsed to be really windy Saturday.
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I don't like that it is suppsed to be really windy Saturday.
Me either. Gonna be in upper east side balcony.
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Pull it together girls, this is November football in the B1G.
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Pull it together girls, this is November football in the B1G.
I've sat through too many games there where the Illini would fuck up and incompetently try and run when they had the wind at their back and then would have to throw against the wind when the other team was scoring at will zipping the ball around with the wind at their back.
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How many of those games were coached by the second winningest coach in Wisconsin history?!?!?
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How many of those games were coached by the second winningest coach in Wisconsin history?!?!?
I'm wearing my cup to the game nonetheless.
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Always a good idea
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I've sat through too many games there where the Illini would fuck up and incompetently try and run when they had the wind at their back and then would have to throw against the wind when the other team was scoring at will zipping the ball around with the wind at their back.
I recall a game where Illinois had the sense to run (El) Kameno Bell about 700 times in just such weather. It worked, but it was boring as all hell.
Also, might be pulling from earlier in the thread, but I am trying -- without relying on the Internet -- to recall who Mackovic got the tie against in 1988-89. I feel certain it happened in 1988, but I cannot remember the opponent.
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I'm old enough to remember a game, maybe NU ? on a beautiful fall day. Seats in the upper deck, east stands.
Temperature probably upper 40s with a howling wind. The rain in the face was just icing on the cake.
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I recall a game where Illinois had the sense to run (El) Kameno Bell about 700 times in just such weather. It worked, but it was boring as all hell.
Also, might be pulling from earlier in the thread, but I am trying -- without relying on the Internet -- to recall who Mackovic got the tie against in 1988-89. I feel certain it happened in 1988, but I cannot remember the opponent.
Oct 29, 1988 Sat Illinois @ Minnesota Big Ten T 27 27
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I've sat through too many games there where the Illini would fuck up and incompetently try and run when they had the wind at their back and then would have to throw against the wind when the other team was scoring at will zipping the ball around with the wind at their back.
There was one game with a ridiculous howling wind in our face, we had 4th down, and the punt team was all fubar and Mackovic called a time out to get them sorted, instead of letting the clock run to zero and punting with the wind. We got a 20 something yard punt off.
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There was one game with a ridiculous howling wind in our face, we had 4th down, and the punt team was all fubar and Mackovic called a time out to get them sorted, instead of letting the clock run to zero and punting with the wind. We got a 20 something yard punt off.
Unless Purdue loses against Iowa, the Illinois Purdue game is going to decide the West. You coming in or not?
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I've sat through too many games there where the Illini would fuck up and incompetently try and run when they had the wind at their back and then would have to throw against the wind when the other team was scoring at will zipping the ball around with the wind at their back.
Did you watch them pass it 23 times down 20?
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Did you watch them pass it 23 times down 20?
They kept going 3 and out. So maybe 12 passes. They should have thrown 23 in each quarter the wind was at their backs.
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Probably going to come up for the Purdue game if we take care of MSU.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the spread increases further from the current 16 and half. Of the 8 suspended, Michigan State will be without its three top defensive ends and two of its top-six defensive backs against Illinois. The other 3 don't play.
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It wouldn't surprise me if the spread increases further from the current 16 and half. Of the 8 suspended, Michigan State will be without its three top defensive ends and two of its top-six defensive backs against Illinois. The other 3 don't play.
That's where MSU screwed up. If you're going to fight in the tunnel, don't fight with starters, or players that get playing time at all.
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That's where MSU screwed up. If you're going to fight in the tunnel, don't fight with starters, or players that get playing time at all.
Their basketball team knows this! 😂
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It wouldn't surprise me if the spread increases further from the current 16 and half. Of the 8 suspended, Michigan State will be without its three top defensive ends and two of its top-six defensive backs against Illinois. The other 3 don't play.
Doubt it will increase much. At a certain point, Vegas knows when to draw the line. Also, the weather is supposed to be complete crap, which will likely limit scoring and blowouts. If the forecast holds, I am wondering if the kickers will even be able to function outside close range.
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I'm old enough to remember a game, maybe NU ? on a beautiful fall day. Seats in the upper deck, east stands.
Temperature probably upper 40s with a howling wind. The rain in the face was just icing on the cake.
I'll go one better. For an early November game, the temperature was about 20. The low that day was 8! I think it's still a record low for that day of the year.
Someone behind us threw up all of their internal organs on the bleachers. I was dared to eat an undigested cheese curl from the pile for a rising amount of money. Hate to say it, but at a certain point in the bidding, I was tempted, mainly to disgust the hell out of everyone in the vicinity. But I didn't do it.
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Oct 29, 1988 Sat Illinois @ Minnesota Big Ten T 27 27
For some reason, I remember nothing from the game. I would have guessed Michigan St., but I think we played them at the end of the season to lock up a bowl bid. That 1988 team had to be the worst group ever to play in a bowl game.
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Doubt it will increase much. At a certain point, Vegas knows when to draw the line. Also, the weather is supposed to be complete crap, which will likely limit scoring and blowouts. If the forecast holds, I am wondering if the kickers will even be able to function outside close range.
Not a bad point, but our passing game revolves around the short game, so might be able to throw a little. Should be able to run the ball at will though. When the rain starts will be key.
(https://www.weather.gov/images/ilx/wxstory/Tab3FileL.png?b0e48a2a027f1b2bf45a9fa478c4db31)
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The Weather.com currently has rain >30% from 2AM through 10AM. 86% chance at 4AM. Wind 25-35mph and gusts over 40mph.
The Weather Bug has rain >30% from 2AM-4AM, 7AM-9AM. 50% chance at 8AM. Wind from 12-4.
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The Weather.com currently has rain >30% from 2AM through 10AM. 86% chance at 4AM. Wind 25-35mph and gusts over 40mph.
The Weather Bug has rain >30% from 2AM-4AM, 7AM-9AM. 50% chance at 8AM. Wind from 12-4.
What does Parkins say about the weather on Saturday?
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VSIN line aggregator at o/u 40-41.5 and Illini -17
Original was o/u 46.5 and Illini -13.
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What does Parkins say about the weather on Saturday?
Tempo really should be honored that we come up with this stuff on his behalf.
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Tempo really should be honored that we come up with this stuff on his behalf.
WWDD
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Looking like rain should be wrapped up by kickoff tomorrow. Winds will be Southeast veering to Southwest as the game goes on. Gusting to 50.
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Probably not a lot of passing. 40+ carries for Brown.
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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fw5nKqLXd_c
This video doesn’t support suspending 8 players. That was nothing. Looked like the Michigan player was trying to go into the MSU locker room and MSU’s guys treated him like a bouncer at a bar
“Send yo ass home nigga” 😂
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It feels like I have been trying to sleep on a boat with this wind.
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It feels like I have been trying to sleep on a boat with this wind.
Thanks for gutting it out and going.
A sell out, as in fannies going thru the turnstiles, would be nice.
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My seats in the upper-east balcony should be fun with 60mph winds today 😩
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My seats in the upper-east balcony should be fun with 60mph winds today 😩
Wear some sunglasses. You'll be fine.
Enjoy the game, and thanks for going.
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Winds will be strongest between 5am and 11am. After that they will decrease to 25 mph with gusts to 40. By 4th quarter it will be even less.
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Soon as this little squall punches through around 11 sun will be out after. 8)
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4 way tie at 3-3.
We need this, and a win next Sat.
xxxx still plays Wisco and the gofs.
And Wisco and the gofs play each other.
All 3 can end up with 4 losses.
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They couldnt find enough students to fill the end zone ?
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Was following on game tracker until about 1:30 left in first half when I got home and got the tv on. Seems like it was a real shit show.
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Sparty playing well. Thorne is playing well and they came to play.
Other than the 23 yards by Brown after 2 carries, and the 60 yard td to Williams, we haven't done much.
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Hope PAMan remembered his cup.
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The field goal. You take the points. These coaches today.
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Quan Martin looked like he concussed himself with that hit. MSU is matching the physicality Illinois usually brings. If they go up 2 possessions I think they win
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Gashing us on the ground
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The field goal. You take the points. These coaches today.
Did they eschew a FG down 2?
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Jesus fucking Christ
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Our 40 year old punter sucks
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This is why i wear my Cup
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Did they eschew a FG down 2?
Neither team is kicking FGs on the south end of the field due to the wind.
MSU just passed up on kicking a 40 yard FG
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This is an L. Spartans just want it more.
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This is why i wear my Cup
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Another fumble by Chase. Just not our day. Too many mistakes and MSU playing a good enough game to win,
Still if Illinois beats Purdue and NW they will win the west. Todays game doesn’t mean much
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This team had no interest in playing football today. And the play-calling isn't much better.
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This is awful. The mental mistakes and lackadaisical demeanor just doing us in.
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That’ll do it. Embarrassing to lose this badly as a 17 pt favorite but MSU isn’t as bad as people think, and Illinois not as good
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Neither team is kicking FGs on the south end of the field due to the wind.
MSU just passed up on kicking a 40 yard FG
Tha Alpha Male is getting schoolèd by an incompetent Black guy
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The short handed team came to play.
We're playing like it never crossed our minds that could happen.
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Pretty sure the entire second half has been played inside our 35 yard line. First we had the weird fair catch or whatever on the kickoff and started at the nine. Then the punt where the punter almost missed the ball. Then their kickoff they almost recovered in bounds. Then a fumbled pitch on a critical fourth down. What a trainwreck.
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Down big and then we have to go against the wind soon.
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The uncalled egregious PI on Williams was a killer too
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The uncalled egregious PI on Williams was a killer too
Yep.
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Not quite dead yet.
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23-15 still in it.
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MSU’s punter >>> Illini punter.
Difference in the game
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Their punter couldn't have had a better day.
Ours ? Not so much.
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Not one guy pushing Brown forward.
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MSU’s had the answers when it comes to short yardage defense
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0-4 on 4th downs with an all-conference running back.
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First game this year Illinois DLine has gotten worked by the opposition O line.
One more chance to tie the game here. 3 minutes, 80 yards, 1 timeout against the wind
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Wtf is this offense
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We gotta win next week. We do, and today's loss doesn't affect the standings.
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Congrats to Michigan State. They deserved to win. Illinois too many mistakes, got whipped at the LOS.
Regroup for Purdue. That game is the Big 10 West title game
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Still not over. Wow.
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😂 Mel Tucker is an idiot. Illinois still has 1:06 left.
If you run the ball and still miss the FG there’s only be 30 secs left
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Illinois going to have a chance to tie this game crazy
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You got 2 shots into the end zone here
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Lunney called a shit game.
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We played as if all we have to do to go to Indy is beat PU.
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Thought they could just simply show up and beat a depleted MSU squad. MSU had other ideas.
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FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
Typical Illinois - build up the hype just to pull the rug from under the fans.
Lunny play calling and the mistakes costs us. Now the twitter naysayers will have fun with this loss
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Well that game sucked. Such a weird game.
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😂 Mel Tucker is an idiot. Illinois still has 1:06 left.
If you run the ball and still miss the FG there’s only be 30 secs left
He got seriously close to being fired today lol
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23-15 still in it.
Bielema got smoked by an overrated Black guy. He sucks cock you fucking piece of cock fucking shit.
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You got 2 shots into the end zone here
Fuck you you racist cock sucking piece of shit
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Alpha male my fucking ass. He sucks ass
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MSU sucks yet they beat the shit out of the Illini today. Bielema can suck Spark's cock. Fuck that piece of shit
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That sucked.
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1 for 6 on 4th downs. Outgained them 2:1 in yardage.
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Special teams the difference. We still control the West though.
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I had this dream the other night where the Illini lost a home game they definitely should have won by being lethargic and shooting themselves in the foot over and over. I thought it was about the Purdue game but while watching the third quarter all I could think of was that dream.
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MSU sucks yet they beat the shit out of the Illini today. Bielema can suck Spark's cock. Fuck that piece of shit
I'm enjoying this meltdown 🤣
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PAMan went full Jobu.
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I've sat through too many games there where the Illini would fuck up and incompetently try and run when they had the wind at their back and then would have to throw against the wind when the other team was scoring at will zipping the ball around with the wind at their back.
Always trust content from The PAPissedOffMan.
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I had this dream the other night where the Illini lost a home game they definitely should have won by being lethargic and shooting themselves in the foot over and over. I thought it was about the Purdue game but while watching the third quarter all I could think of was that dream.
I watched this game and thought the same things. Totally LETHARGIC until the mid way through the 4th. These guys thought they had this game won before taking the field with 4 defensive starters plus 4 backups out. Crap play calling, crap offensive line play, and the constant screw ups on the field.
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PAMan went full Jobu.
I haven’t had any kind of meltdown in a hell of a long time.
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MSU being shorthanded motivated their players in the short run.
Illinois took them lightly, especially after the fast start.
Trap game.
We had more yards, more plays, but ToP was fairly close.
Special teams: their punter was a lot better, but they missed a field goal and an extra point.
Still do not understand the OC misplaying the wind.
This was on bad play calling.
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Just saying...
https://twitter.com/JWerner247/status/1589037114833993729?t=qiRWSOy43cTRLX1GpNnu4g&s=19
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Just saying...
https://twitter.com/JWerner247/status/1589037114833993729?t=qiRWSOy43cTRLX1GpNnu4g&s=19
Yes no flow to the game with all those “breaks”
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#21 in AP.
Among a bunch of other things, in a column that includes about everything .......
"Those issues resulted in a starting field position for the Illini on their own 24-yard line. Seven of the Illini’s 12 possessions started inside their own 20-yard line. Five possessions started inside the 15-yard line.
Michigan State’s average starting field position was its own 38-yard line. The Spartans started inside their own 20 just twice and in Illinois territory three times."
https://247sports.com/college/illinois/Article/Illinois-football-loses-to-Michigan-State-with-self-inflicted-errors-to-snap-six-game-winning-streak-Illini-head-coach-Bret-Bielema-196944150/
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Yes no flow to the game with all those “breaks”
Usually teams only do that when the offense is running a hurry up offense like Chip Kelly used to run. Illinois wasn’t running anything up tempo so it made little sense for MSU to try it. Don’t think it made any difference in the game.
The difference was the punters
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Bielema got smoked by an overrated Black guy. He sucks cock you fucking piece of cock fucking shit.
😂. If I voted for Democrats all my life and lived in a Democrat controlled state, I’d also be this depressed. Look at your avatar.
Just get off this board you fucking geek. Literally nobody cares about your opinion on anything.
Bielema is still 2-1 this year against terrible black coaches. That’s a 66% winning %. I’ll take it.
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" Bielema said on Illinois' postgame radio show. "I got an apology from the officials for screwing that up. They basically allowed them to change the call there. They apologized so that won't happen again."
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/illini/illinois-bret-bielema-says-officials-apologized-for-call-in-red-zone-vs-michigan-state/article_ef15ccac-dae1-51e8-a0d4-fe51071ffd29.html
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" Bielema said on Illinois' postgame radio show. "I got an apology from the officials for screwing that up. They basically allowed them to change the call there. They apologized so that won't happen again."
https://www.stltoday.com/sports/college/illini/illinois-bret-bielema-says-officials-apologized-for-call-in-red-zone-vs-michigan-state/article_ef15ccac-dae1-51e8-a0d4-fe51071ffd29.html
Didnt the announcers also say that there was nothing wrong with the block ?
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Didnt the announcers also say that there was nothing wrong with the block ?
That's what I heard.
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That's what I heard.
And that's what I saw.
So the refs got everything wrong.
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Shit I forgot about that debacle too. That sequence followed by the whole third quarter was just an absolute nightmare of piss-poor officiating, mind blowing gaffes, questionable play calling, and wind related shenanigans. It was kind of surreal.
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Shit I forgot about that debacle too. That sequence followed by the whole third quarter was just an absolute nightmare of piss-poor officiating, mind blowing gaffes, questionable play calling, and wind related shenanigans. It was kind of surreal.
Again, always trust content from The PAAlphaMale.
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Do I drive a hour to sit in low 30 weather to watch Illini or sit at home in recliner under a blanket in my sweats and watch?
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Do I drive a hour to sit in low 30 weather to watch Illini or sit at home in recliner under a blanket in my sweats and watch?
Is this a real question?
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Is this a real question?
yes
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Do I drive a hour to sit in low 30 weather to watch Illini or sit at home in recliner under a blanket in my sweats and watch?
Go. Wear your sweats and your watch, and bring your blanket.
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Go. Wear your sweats and your watch, and bring your blanket.
And your bourbon. Though peppermint schnapps with hot chocolate would work too.