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General Category => The Deuce => Topic started by: Jobu on September 27, 2022, 02:38:55 PM
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So, as you guys know, Hurricane Ian is on its way. My parents and my brother in law and his family live in the area, and are preparing.
This sounds like it's gonna be a bitch. I'm hoping they come out of it ok, but who the fuck knows.
If people wish to contribute to this thread, here are the rules:
1. Don't be a dick.
2. If this turns political at all, it's gone. I want no Trump/Biden bullshit in here at all. Just weather updates and well wishes for all. If you can't keep the politics out of it, I'll just delete the thread. Up to you fuckheads.
3. If you can't handle #1 or #2, go fuck yourself.
Anyway, if you have it in you, and you happen to say prayers before bed, include my family and whomever else down there. That's all I ask.
Thanks.
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I am very serious about this. Do not bring the bullshit into this thread. I'm looking at Judy and others. No fucking politics. Please.
If you do, you can go fuck yourself and go to hell. I want this to be a place where we can discuss this. From only a weather perspective. If you want to bring other bullshit in, start another thread.
Are there others on here that have family there? If so, please contribute.
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Good luck to your family riding the storm out down there, Jobu. Have a friend there as well.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DH9r34tvtHM
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Thanks! And best wishes to your friend.
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So, as you guys know, Hurricane Ian is on its way. My parents and my brother in law and his family live in the area, and are preparing.
Thanks.
By preparing you mean "left 3 days ago"? My brother in law boogied out of Jacksonville yesterday. My niece is riding it out in Ft Lauderdale but the cone never really included the Miami area, sounds like a lot of rain though.
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By preparing you mean "left 3 days ago"? My brother in law boogied out of Jacksonville yesterday. My niece is riding it out in Ft Lauderdale but the cone never really included the Miami area, sounds like a lot of rain though.
Nope. They put on the hurricane shutters and are riding it out. Hopefully they can withstand it.
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Nope. They put on the hurricane shutters and are riding it out. Hopefully they can withstand it.
Thoughts and thoughts. Where they at?
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Thoughts and thoughts. Where they at?
Ft Myers
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Ft Myers
With ya bro, my parents have a condo on Bonita Beach. At least they are in Boulder right now.
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Batten down the hatches, this storm is a real cocksucker!
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Intensifying, and will probably be a cat 5 when it hits land. Sum bitch.
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Intensifying, and will probably be a cat 5 when it hits land. Sum bitch.
Tipped northwards a little bit maybe?
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Pool and outdoor area at my parent's condo in Bonita Springs. The entire area is under the storm surge
https://youtu.be/yM6LeF8Vc5g
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Here you can see the pool/etc that are underwater now
https://youtu.be/VOYbbXfnjvA
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https://twitter.com/murphstahoe/status/1575185974878871553
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https://twitter.com/murphstahoe/status/1575191753220452353
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Stay safe Florida.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQI_lI0vC6Y&t=135s
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The eye is over Cape Coral. This is where my parents live. I hope they have a house to go back to.
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The eye is over Cape Coral. This is where my parents live. I hope they have a house to go back to.
It looks really gnarly. But at least you said "to go back to"
I get really pissed off seeing these people who decide to "Ride it out" then get into deep shit. A lot of these fires we've had, people get a knock on the door to wake them up because their house is on fire, they get 2-3 minutes to escape. The people in South Florida had 4-5 days. There are people wandering around on Bonita Beach Blvd. One big ass palm frond comes flying and hits them in the head, they fall over and drown.
Some of those videos I posted are from the people in the condo next to my parents in Bonita. Well, they are going to tough it out, but their car is probably floating in the Gulf of Mexico, instead of parked at a hotel mid state or in Georgia. And we'll get to pay for a replacement in higher insurance rates.
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It's a slow mover. Sustained winds do more damage than a quick blow. More time for buckets of water to fall out of the sky. 😞
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Doc's is a bears bar. Maybe if the owner decides to throw the towel in we go in and buy it.
Q97 not invited.
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Sounds like a terrible idea.
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Sounds like a terrible idea.
It would only work if we all moved there. I suspect real estate will be cheap!
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The eye is over Cape Coral. This is where my parents live. I hope they have a house to go back to.
Hope your parents are ok. Family friends live in Fort Myers in assisted living, both in their late 80s and bad health. Their son also lives in that area. I have friends in the Tampa area, Orlando, and south of Jacksonville. My best friend sold his house 2 weeks ago, lived about 25 miles west of Ocala, went to Memphis area. Kidded him yesterday that he got that house sold and got out in time.
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I hope the Ps, as well as everyone, is doing ok Jobu. I saw Cape Coral got hit with 140mph gusts.
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If Trump was President there’s no way he would have allowed this to happen !
Delete this, please.
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Booooo censorship! Booooo hurricane!
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this is totally fucked up. And I dealt with these fires. Those look like small potatoes.
22 died in Tubbs, I suspect this will be a much higher number. A lot of that was more preventable with the amount of notice, but the area hit was so large that it would be hard to throw too much shade on someone who dies in say, Orlando (unless they drowned in their car on the roadway).
But the damage level is just unreal. We lost 5000 structures in Tubbs, feels like this will be a much higher number. Different scene, same result, we had trailer parks burned to the nub, I just saw a photo of a trailer park on Hickory in Bonita where the trailers were all washed into a big pile of debris. Total loss. Parents condo, the pool is full of sand and that whole park area is under water/sand. Waves apparently hit the 2nd floor condos. We're on the 5th floor, but the building will be inaccessible for a while, months perhaps, think the elevators are a loss and maybe the stairwells are not safe. And there are several feet of sand on the road (on the opposite side of the building from the beach).
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Is everyone's relatives ok? Friends in the Keys and Satellite Beach seem to be ok.
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Is everyone's relatives ok? Friends in the Keys and Satellite Beach seem to be ok.
Everyone I know is safe. My brother in law's house had some minor damage to his pool screen. My parents went back to their house today. They lost a couple shingles, their water softener was blown to shit, and their fence is down. The house itself and the contents inside are totally fine.
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I didn’t see this thread. But I live in Estero and got some good video of the Hurricane coming ashore and damage the day after. Here are 2 of my videos. Make sure to play them in the highest quality or they are blurry.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-HoRrZoRY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xDoB2xKxJk
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I didn’t see this thread. But I live in Estero and got some good video of the Hurricane coming ashore and damage the day after. Here are 2 of my videos. Make sure to play them in the highest quality or they are blurry.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jC-HoRrZoRY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8xDoB2xKxJk
Is anything even remotely functional in Bonita Beach? My parent's condo is on the north end of Hickory - when you ask what the status is, it seems the answer is still "we don't know, nobody can get to the building"
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Hopefully Murph is ok with the earthquake. Maybe he can post video of any devastation.
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He’s probably too busy harboring refugees and “immigrants” at his complex !
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He’s probably too busy harboring refugees and “immigrants” at his complex !
If that is the case, DeSantis will pay millions to fly them to FLA to have them clean up since you lazy asses won't do it yourselves!
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Hopefully Murph is ok with the earthquake. Maybe he can post video of any devastation.
My beer fell over. Let's have a moment of silence.
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My beer fell over. Let's have a moment of silence.
Awaiting your narrated video of the toppled beer, then.
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Probably a Pliny the Elder. What a tragedy.
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Probably a Pliny the Elder. What a tragedy.
Pliny is a can't miss, even though it's more available now it's always such a great beer it never gets old.
But in this case it was a Knee Deep Deez Hops. Thumbs up.
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Is anything even remotely functional in Bonita Beach? My parent's condo is on the north end of Hickory - when you ask what the status is, it seems the answer is still "we don't know, nobody can get to the building"
There’s still a 7pm to 7am curfew with a police manned roadblock at Barefoot Beach. I drove out there for the first time this morning around 530am and it looked pitch black behind the road block so I’m assuming they still don’t have power out there. They need to rebuild the road first mainly bc all the sand that was on the beach was dumped on the road. I’m assuming since the curfew isn’t in effect between 7am- 7pm the residents can drive back there although you’ll be driving on sand
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There’s still a 7pm to 7am curfew with a police manned roadblock at Barefoot Beach. I drove out there for the first time this morning around 530am and it looked pitch black behind the road block so I’m assuming they still don’t have power out there. They need to rebuild the road first mainly bc all the sand that was on the beach was dumped on the road. I’m assuming since the curfew isn’t in effect between 7am- 7pm the residents can drive back there although you’ll be driving on sand
Wild stuff.
Some people on my parent's (5th) floor were there, and we got video from them. Those people were basically trapped in the building for a while, no power to elevators and several feet of sand in the lowest level of the stairways. They had to make do for a while. Presumably they got out somehow, no running water = no toilet etc...
The only reason to go there would presumably be to do clean up, no water or power means pretty much uninhabitable, if the unit even exists. At BBC, the first floor was completely underwater, the 2nd floor had a couple feet of water. Even unoccupied units had random things like condiments in the fridge that are probably pretty nasty now.
This feels like years. As bad as the Tubbs Fire in Santa Rosa seemed like it would be, this seems much worse, the fire caused no real loss of infrastructure, power restoration was quick, no mold/etc..., not a lot of debris because everything was burned to ashes, and the square miles of destruction were a couple of orders of magnitude less.
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From what I saw most everything for the first floor properties on the beach and some even across Bonita beach road were a total loss bc that is as high as the water got. If you looked at my damage video, I mean lot of it looked like tornado damage. There were cars flipped completely upside down in the big condo complex right across the street from barefoot beach. Palm trees which are very strong completely uprooted. Boats pushed way out of the water and dumped in the middle of the street. And then just the sand being dumped on the road. It was like beach was moved 200 feet directly inland. I signed up to do this “debris monitoring” job and the contractors said they may be here an entire year cleaning up. The tourist/ snowbird season is absolutely dead. Bonita Beach got it bad but most everything is still at least standing even though 1st floors are likely total loss. But Ft Myers Beach and Sanibel got it way worse. Sanibel is uninhabitable bc they have to rebuild the entire power grid. It’ll be years to rebuild Ft Myers Beach. Lot of the buildings destroyed there were very old so maybe new construction will be better.
It’s been almost a month since the storm came thru and I’d say if you live right on the coast from Bonita Beach up to Ft Myers Beach your place is likely uninhabitable. That’s why the police have the blockade up over night to prevent looters or accidents from people driving on the sand. I’d say they’ll try to get power on and road access by December though since that is when most snowbirds start coming. If your parents take Uber right now from airport to Bonita Beach the closest they can get would be the blockade set at Barefoot Beach. Then they’d have to walk the rest of the way.
As far as people being stranded, there were evacuation orders Tuesday night the day before the storm came in. Every Publix/Walmart was closed 4pm-6pm, a full 12+ hours before it came in. So I think there was plenty of warning. There were obviously too many people along the coastline that didn’t understand what a forecast surge of that magnitude would do and decided to ride it out. I’m a little east of 41 and lost power from Wed thru Sunday and didn’t have water for a few days. So being along the coast those people who stayed there were really screwed. Doubt anyone stays again but not likely we ever have a storm like this again either. It had to come in at just the right angle with that intensity to do this amount of damage.
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Don't want to burst your bubble, but you've had 4 majors in 2 decades make landfall within 50 miles of your location. Thats 2004 Charley, 2005 Wilma, 2017 Irma, and Ian this year.
And both 1992 Andrew and 2005 Katrina crossed the state from the east to west and were just as close.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/images/strikes_us_mjr.jpg
Climatologically speaking this storm's path was very normal. Hurricanes tend come in from the southwest into Florida from late September through November. Wilma did the same.
Everything prior to late September tends to come in from the southeast.
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Don't want to burst your bubble, but you've had 4 majors in 2 decades make landfall within 50 miles of your location. Thats 2004 Charley, 2005 Wilma, 2017 Irma, and Ian this year.
And both 1992 Andrew and 2005 Katrina crossed the state from the east to west and were just as close.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/images/strikes_us_mjr.jpg
Climatologically speaking this storm's path was very normal. Hurricanes tend come in from the southwest into Florida from late September through November. Wilma did the same.
Everything prior to late September tends to come in from the southeast.
This one was something else. For Irma, we watched it on the webcam from the condo. This one broke everything.
There was a fire in Oakland Hills in the 90's. Then we had Tubbs. OK, a bad fire every 30 or so years in the Bay Area, that sucks.
Then we have had fires *every year* since then until this year, when we got a freak rain storm in July (that happened to put out a fire in Colfax thank god). New normal. If you get one of these every 5 years, you can't rebuild as fast as shit breaks. At least for the most part, if you get a massive fire, that messes up the environment but eventually you run out of fuel. Can't run out of Ocean water.
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Don't want to burst your bubble, but you've had 4 majors in 2 decades make landfall within 50 miles of your location. Thats 2004 Charley, 2005 Wilma, 2017 Irma, and Ian this year.
And both 1992 Andrew and 2005 Katrina crossed the state from the east to west and were just as close.
https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/images/strikes_us_mjr.jpg
Climatologically speaking this storm's path was very normal. Hurricanes tend come in from the southwest into Florida from late September through November. Wilma did the same.
Everything prior to late September tends to come in from the southeast.
SW FL is usually protected from major hurricanes bc it’s rare for one to come from the west. And if it came from the East across FL, it’d be weaker by the time it got to the west side. If it came directly up from the south, Cuba would likely weaken it. But with Ian, it was the perfect path to do Maximum damage. It only skirted the western part of Cuba so Cuba didn’t weaken it much. Then it turned North/NorthEast and landfall just north of Ft Myers which meant maximum surge was everything south of the landfall point which included FtMyers/Naples. Naples has more millionaires per square mile than any other place in the US. So with that type of high value property getting a major Hurricane, this could be the 2nd costliest hurricane in US history. Doubt it’d pass Katrina tho.
Lot of people here are screwed bc they didn’t have flood insurance, and some coastal properties probably have no insurance at all since no insurance company wants to cover those areas. It’ll be interesting what does get rebuilt if no one will insure them anymore. I think after the 2004 hurricanes hit FL and all the private insurers left, the state had to step in and provide coverage and just hope nothing would hit. And it was quiet from 2006-2017. Irma was bad and Ian was catastrophic.
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Naples has more millionaires per square mile than any other place in the US.
The median home price in Palo Alto is 2.9 million dollars. 56.3% home ownership rate. Housing values have doubled in the last decade, so even someone buying a median price home 10 years ago at 100% financing has 1.5 million in equity.
And because unlike Naples, those homes aren't a lot of empty nesters, there are more millionaires per home, for example the Zuckerberg househould has, for all intents and purposes, four billionaires.
And while it *should* be denser than it is, there are a lot of multi-million dollar homes on 1/8 acre or smaller lots, and plenty of duplexes.
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SW FL is usually protected from major hurricanes bc it’s rare for one to come from the west. And if it came from the East across FL, it’d be weaker by the time it got to the west side. If it came directly up from the south, Cuba would likely weaken it.
Some of your assumptions are a little off base. You actually could not live in a more Hurricane prone area of coastline in the United States. The three most southwestern counties in Florida: Lee County has seen 7 landfalling Major hurricanes in the last 100 years. Collier County has seen 9 Major Hurricane landfalls in the last 100 years and Monroe leads the state of florida with 15. These are just Majors. The numbers go even higher when you take into account Cat 1s and 2s.
(https://www.nhc.noaa.gov/climo/images/strikes_egulf_mjr.jpg)
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Southwestern Florida is not protected from diddly. Its a Hurricane hot spot. Only Eastern Cuba weakens storms significantly. And that's if they only travel parallel to it. Western Cuba does little to nothing to storms. History has shown this over and over, as the western part of Cuba is much thinner in area and has far fewer mountains than what eastern Cuba has.
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(https://th.bing.com/th/id/R.42a0f0203b41b154fed32f0840d5d522?rik=wvaCDAsg1nLCuA&riu=http%3a%2f%2fwww.globalweatherclimatecenter.com%2fuploads%2f7%2f0%2f9%2f4%2f70941227%2ftc-oct_orig.png&ehk=bQ5HndAVVrMhLSXOFQPmbB3fARhtRjUXTVzkxrlyKI0%3d&risl=&pid=ImgRaw&r=0)
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Sounds like socialism to me.