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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Reacher on March 20, 2022, 03:42:46 AM
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Things look bleak, but I just saw that Houston is only 1-4 against quad 1 teams this year. If our guards come to play, we’ll win. Big if off recent form, though.
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Will be tough game.
They are now ranked second in KenPom.
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You both shut your whorish mouths right now! 😂
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Apparently Trent had a secondary infection in his eye caused by the conjunctivitis. Affected his vision and he played tentatively on offense. Supposedly better today.
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Apparently Trent had a secondary infection in his eye caused by the conjunctivitis. Affected his vision and he played tentatively on offense. Supposedly better today.
He better be, or we’re fucked.
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All tournament games can be tough. We just played and won one. Houston had a cakewalk. I'll gladly take the battle tested Illini on the money line.
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He better be, or we’re fucked.
Today would be a good day for him to get out of his slump. C'mon Trent!
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Today would be a good day for him to get out of his slump. C'mon Trent!
Shooting, like pink eye, can be contagious. It's about time we spread some hot shooting around. It's been a while, and we are capable.
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Coming into their conference tournament they had beaten zero tournament teams this year. They’ve won two since (Memphis, who also beat UH twice, in the conference tourney, and UAB Friday).
They can beat us, but we’ll be the best team they’ll have seen in a while.
Will depend a lot on our shooting, can’t afford to keep slumping like we have been. Break out and we can definitely win.
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Really hard to assess.
Their metrics on D and overall are impressive, but the schedule is suspect.
That said, they just beat Memphis by 18 and Memphis looked like a Top 10 team.
They lost to Wisky early by 2.
We have to hit shots but they guard like mthrfckers based on their D stats.
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I read that Illinois has only beaten a higher seed in the tourney 2x....suppose that is what they are posting on Cougars HQ2.
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He better be, or we’re fucked.
Succinct, and probably accurate.
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Coming into their conference tournament they had beaten zero tournament teams this year. They’ve won two since (Memphis, who also beat UH twice, in the conference tourney, and UAB Friday).
They can beat us, but we’ll be the best team they’ll have seen in a while.
Will depend a lot on our shooting, can’t afford to keep slumping like we have been. Break out and we can definitely win.
Memphis looked better last night than we have in any game in the last few weeks.
We need at least two guards to show up and actually want to shoot the ball.
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Courtney Green talking to Kofi.
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I read that Illinois has only beaten a higher seed in the tourney 2x....suppose that is what they are posting on Cougars HQ2.
Shit, the website was looking at had them reversed. D'oh.
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Courtney Green talking to Kofi.
Oh just wonderful, Green doing the game.
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Oh just wonderful, Green doing the game.
It didn't look like Green said a word to the Houston player.
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Hard to see us winning if DaMonte logs major minutes.
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Get williams out
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Will rebound for food
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BBV and DaMonte on the floor at the same time ?
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Hard to see us winning if DaMonte logs major minutes.
If they lag off him he's going to have to knock down some 3s to warrant minutes.
BBV in the game before Payne,
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Cold start. Great.
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Jeez, BLOCK OUT AND REBOUND!
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Rebound the FUCKING BALL!!!!
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Holy shit they’re gonna kill us getting all these rebounds and attempts
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Our lineup just now was Frazier, Belo, DW, Grandison, and BBV. Defensive rebounds = 0.
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Jeez, BLOCK OUT AND REBOUND!
I think the ball is just taking big bounces. Sometimes rebounds are just luck.
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Amazing how many chances Houston got and still came up empty.
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BBV and DaMonte on the floor at the same time ?
Way too many sub patterns that make it 3 on 5 offense
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Keep shooting Curbelo 😂
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I think the ball is just taking big bounces. Sometimes rebounds are just luck.
True.
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Kofi rolls wide open, and Curbelo is looking down at the ball while pounding it into the floor.
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Curbelo is such a lousy 3 shooter even Reggie Miller has noticed.
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Way too many sub patterns that make it 3 on 5 offense
I can only think that rotation was about sending an early defense mentality to the team.
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Tell Curbelo to stop shooting threes. My god.
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WTF, Hawkins, take the open shot rather than pass to Curbelo for a(nother) 3 point miss. There is no worse shot in college basketball than Curbelo, shortly upon entering the game for the 1st time, jacking a 3 pointer. Curbelo can do many things to help the team but 3 point shooting isn't his forte. Not by a long shot.
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Notice their rebound fest happened when Hawk and Kofi were out. If we can get Curbelo to quit shooting unless it’s stupid wide open we might just be ok. Show me some RJ
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Foul trouble for damonte. Good.
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RJ in to hopefully knock down some shots
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Well look at that. Melendez comes in and automatically brings you some offense.
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They’ll probably review that injury and throw Kofi out. Lol
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Notice their rebound fest happened when Hawk and Kofi were out. If we can get Curbelo to quit shooting unless it’s stupid wide open we might just be ok. Show me some RJ
At no point in this game should Hawkins, Payne, and Kofi all be on the bench.
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Can we have Damonte explain to Belo when to shoot 3's? Which should be practically never for those two.
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Foul trouble for damonte. Good.
This. Force Underwood’s hand on getting him out!
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That Carlton dude is not scared of Kofi.
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Remember when Jerkoff Judy told us Curbelo was going to be a NBA HOF'er?
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No offense. This team sucks
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They’re sagging so far off of Curbelo. Lol.
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And another offensive rebound/2nd chance for Houston, right under the hoop.
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Not gonna win with Hawkins and Curbelo taking all of our shots
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Remember when Jerkoff Judy told us Curbelo was going to be a NBA HOF'er?
He has the talent if he can put it all together.
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Well, if we’re looking for something encouraging, we’re playing like total ass and only down 7.
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Trent could show up on offense any fucking time now.
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Houston is so much bigger and more athletic at the guard spots and they got the right game plan.
Crowd Kofi and Plummer and play soft on Hawkins/Curbelo. Bait them into taking those open 3s.
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No offense. This team sucks
But the head coach just said Illinois was getting all the shots he wanted.
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Not gonna win with Hawkins and Curbelo taking all of our shots
That’s all they’re giving us. They’re daring Curbelo and Hawkins to beat us.
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Well, if we’re looking for something encouraging, we’re playing like total ass and only down 7.
Bc Houston is 6/20
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Well, if we’re looking for something encouraging, we’re playing like total ass and only down 7.
Houston is too tho. They’re laying bricks on open shots.
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This team does not know how to select shots.
Curbelo and Hawkins being open means Curbelo and Hawkins should be dribble-driving and looking to kick to Kofi or a spot shooter.
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He has the talent if he can put it all together.
What guard in the NBA shoots under 30% from 3?
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Offense is completely disjointed.
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That’s all they’re giving us. They’re daring Curbelo and Hawkins to beat us.
And Williams.
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Houston is too tho. They’re laying bricks on open shots.
Houston is at least creating turnovers and offensive rebounding.
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This team does not know how to select shots.
Curbelo and Hawkins being open means Curbelo and Hawkins should be dribble-driving and looking to kick to Kofi or a spot shooter.
The worst thing that happened is Hawkins made one early. Now he be chuckin.
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This team does not know how to select shots.
Curbelo and Hawkins being open means Curbelo and Hawkins should be dribble-driving and looking to kick to Kofi or a spot shooter.
Neither one can get by the defender though because they’re sagging off and when they drive it clogs the lane. The other Houston defenders are staying with our other shooters and clogging Kofi’s space. That’s exactly what they want.
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Houston is too tho. They’re laying bricks on open shots.
The hope is that they play like trash the whole game, and we don’t. Lol
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This team does not know how to select shots.
Curbelo and Hawkins being open means Curbelo and Hawkins should be dribble-driving and looking to kick to Kofi or a spot shooter.
We don't have a dribble driver on the team
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The worst thing that happened is Hawkins made one early. Now he be chuckin.
He and Curbelo are the only ones with openish shots.
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The hope is that they play like trash the whole game, and we don’t. Lol
Yep. Our defense is keeping us in it.
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Houston does have some stout physical specimens at the guard position. They look head and shoulders stronger than ours. They some grown-ass men.
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Call an intentional foul.
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He and Curbelo are the only ones with openish shots.
Right. Because Houston wants them to take them.
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Get on with the fucking game
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Here's a brilliant idea. Actually set a pick to free up plummer/frazier for a shot
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Neither one can get by the defender though because they’re sagging off and when they drive it clogs the lane. The other Houston defenders are staying with our other shooters and clogging Kofi’s space. That’s exactly what they want.
Which is why your perimeter guys should be moving off the ball. Ours stand there waiting for shots to magically appear.
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Kofi gets mauled every time he touches the ball.
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That could have been a turning point, but noooooo.
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Which is why your perimeter guys should be moving off the ball. Ours stand there waiting for shots to magically appear.
I agree
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These fucking announcers. Because Kofi is so big, guys should be allowed to murder him. God damn
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I know no one wants to hear this, but Curbelo needs to be more aggressive in the half court.
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Looks like it was a turning point for Houston...
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Or you know, we need to set better screens for our shooters.
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Blow this trash ass Illini team out. Shouldn’t even be playing today anyway
21-11.
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These fucking announcers. Because Kofi is so big, guys should be allowed to murder him. God damn
Yeah I’ve never understood that reasoning.
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We’re fucked. Houston is better than us. We can’t even inbound the ball right now.
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I know no one wants to hear this, but Curbelo needs to be more aggressive in the half court.
I agree. I hope he shoots every shot Houston gives him
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What actually is the offense their running? Stand around and hope someone gets open?
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I agree. I hope he shoots every shot Houston gives him
I mean with penetration.
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We have multiple 5th year guards and can't handle high pressure defenses.
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"A tradition unlike any other"
Illinois losing in the second round
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This is going to be a blowout.
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Kelvin looks really relaxed. Lol
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We don't have a dribble driver on the team
This. All the guys outside of Kofi stand around the 3 line, no movement, no screening.
11 points in 14 minutes.
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Illinois starting to quit. Getting demoralized by the athleticism and defense of Houston
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This team stinks so bad right now.
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We’re getting punked again.
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This. All the guys outside of Kofi stand around the 3 line, no movement, no screening.
11 points in 14 minutes.
I’ve been saying that for 2 months.
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I just told my wife we’re getting buttfucked. Anally raped. She disagreed by saying, no, we’re allowing it to happen. Not fighting it.
I love her.
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I’ve been saying that for 2 months.
But the merrymen always tell us what a great head coach Underachiever is.
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Plummer. Lol.
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Kelvin looks really relaxed. Lol
Knows who his opposing head coach is....
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What actually is the offense their running? Stand around and hope someone gets open?
I’ve been saying that for 2 months. Our offense stinks something fierce when the 3s aren’t falling.
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But the merrymen always tell us what a great head coach Underachiever is.
Bruce Weber is available.
Too soon?
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They're actually guarding Goode closely.
What does that tell you, Brad?
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Oops, basically a double post. Didn’t think my original comment posted.
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Bruce Weber is available.
Too soon?
Maybe he can take over at half.
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Don’t know why, but sometimes I have to hit post 4-5 times to get it to take.
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Oops, basically a double post. Didn’t think my original comment posted.
This way Spark can tell us twice how great Underachiever is.
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Good news is we’re an 8-0 run from being right back in it.
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Leave Goode out there and let him shoot
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Let the frosh take over.
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Guess it’s time to bench the seniors…
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Goode and Melendez stepping up! Leave them out there and ball!
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I’ve been saying that for 2 months.
I know you have. Too bad the coaching staff doesn't see it and make adjustments.
Good to see RJ making things happen.
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Don’t know why, but sometimes I have to hit post 4-5 times to get it to take.
3-5
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Ride the frosh. Fuck it.
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Goode and Melendez need to play. Period.
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Trent is broken.
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Frazier sucks
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3-5
Accurate
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Frazier just ain't right.
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Trent is broken.
Yup. He's always been able to hit FTs even when nothing else was working.
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And there’s Trent missing 2/3. Mother fucker.
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Trent and Plummer are straight up anchors around our neck right now.
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Uhhh, how about riding the hot hand, pink eye guy?
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That was good D by Kofi and he still made it
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3 Orange jerseys. 1 black. Who gets the rebound ?
Not the Orange jersey.
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Trent and Plummer are straight up anchors around our neck right now.
Don;t forget Damonte.
Stupor seniors
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Uhhh, how about riding the hot hand, pink eye guy?
You mean maybe he should have swung it to the other side, where Goode and RJ were by themselves?
Huh.
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Fuck Hawkins. Wtf are u doing
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And yet another offensive board right under the hoop for 2nd chance points given up.
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Dude is laughing at Hawkins. Haha
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Just playing stupid basketball
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About fucking time
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Finally. Man we needed that.
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Maybe that gets Trent off the mark
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Well that's how you end a half.
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Yes Trent!
Only down 4. I don't know how but I'll take it.
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I really think we have a good chance of winning. Can’t imagine us playing that bad again in the 2nd half. If the stupor seniors show any sign of struggling to open the half, bench them.
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Fuck was Houston doing there? Lol
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As poorly as Illinois has played (defensive rebounding, turnovers, dubious shot selection), the Illini are only down 4 at the half.
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About fucking time Frazier! Only down 4 at half is like a miracle.
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Damonte should not play more than 3 minutes in the 2nd half.
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Down 4. Feels like we should be down 14. If we can get ourselves unfucked, we should win this.
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Damonte should not play more than 3 minutes in the 2nd half.
Yep. Bring him in right before a media timeout to get someone extra rest. That’s it.
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If williams is in starting lineup after halftime underwhelm needs fired
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Damonte should not play more than 3 minutes in the 2nd half.
This. Let the freshman ball. They’re showing they aren’t afraid and much better options than a 20th-year senior.
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Yes Trent!
Only down 4. I don't know how but I'll take it.
Hitting the shot will get him going. I feel it. Being down 4 the way they're playing is encouraging. Melendez needs to stay in.
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I really think we have a good chance of winning. Can’t imagine us playing that bad again in the 2nd half. If the stupor seniors show any sign of struggling to open the half, bench them.
Goode and Melendez should be starting the 2d half.
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We're due for a decent half. Over due.
Why do we inbound to Kofi in the corner ? It seems as tho we started that 6-8 games ago, with not great results.
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If williams is in starting lineup after halftime underwhelm needs fired
Absolutely
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Plummer is the biggest problem right now. He’s been completely erased on offense and abused on D. At least Williams can defend these lengthy wing players
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No Cuberlo and no Williams except for TO blows.
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We're due for a decent half. Over due.
Why do we inbound to Kofi in the corner ? It seems as tho we started that 6-8 games ago, with not great results.
Did it twice. Fucking stupid.
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No Payne minutes.
Shooting is even. Turnovers and rebounds aren't.
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Knows who his opposing head coach is....
But in the halftime interview he didn't know who Luke Goode is. Thankfully Underwood remembered him.
We need at least 2 of Goode Melendez and Plummer on the floor at all times, or Kofi will never see the ball
And get some damn rebounds
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Unfuckingbelievable on this line up to start 2
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DaMonte starting 2nd half!
Why???
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Williams starting 2nd half. Give it a break.
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Refs are trying to bail us out on the DaMonte fouls.
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DaMonte starting 2nd half!
Why???
to get him a quick 3rd so he goes out?
2 more offensive rebounds :(
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Confident Kofi is a huge positive.
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Fucking Underwood with this lineup
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I’ve never seen so many damn rebounds just fall into a teams lap.
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Need to keep drawing fouls on their bigger guys, but uneven officiating will fuck us.
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If Plummer isn’t hitting that he needs to sit.
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how many damn offensive rebounds
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Fuck this lineup! 😡
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Houston is not a good offensive team. If we don’t win this it’s because we shit the bed.
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If Plummer isn’t hitting that he needs to sit.
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Get Damonte out of the fucking game!
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Trent and Plummer should not be on the floor at the same time right now. And sit DaMonte.
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5 seconds damonte. Sit him
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Underwood wtf are you doing?!?!?! Sit ticking Damonte NOW!!!
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He’s useless if he’s not giving you offense. SMH
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Why is williams playing???????
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Where the hell is RJ?
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Get Williams the fuck out.
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Williams took his 3, now replace him with RJ.
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Get RJ in there for Damonte.
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Our best lineup today is Kofi, Hawkins, RJ, Goode, and Trent (by default).
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Sounds nutty but I think we need Curbelo
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Ok Underwood, wtf are you doing. RJ needs in over Damonte. It’s absurd and blatant at this point. You wanna win the fucking game or not?!
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Andersen does the rotations. Maybe he needs to rotate to a new team
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Sounds nutty but I think we need Curbelo
I’d be willing to give him a few minutes. If he’s off, done.
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Sounds nutty but I think we need Curbelo
Driving, kicking, and drawing fouls. If he shoots from 25 feet again he should be off the team.
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That was a rim-rattler there.
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Plummer bailed out by bad foul.
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Need somebody that can feed Kofi, WHEN HE"S IN POSITION.
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Andersen does the rotations. Maybe he needs to rotate to a new team
Maybe stick to playing baseball
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DaMonte still in the game. Been saying his entire tenure I don’t like Underwood’s lineups patterns.
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Moore is annoying fucker.
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Why is Damonte in?! Seriously this is blatant and egregious
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RJ in, Williams out. Finally
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Foul, huh? Lol
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We can't even run an out of bounds play right now.
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Keep feeding Kofi unless we catch fire from the arc.
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Plummer getting too much tick right now.
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That was out on us. Lol
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Melendez is a baller! All game ride with him. Fuck Damonte this game
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Jesus, finally, Plummer.
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All tied up!! Let’s go!
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Wouldn't want to go back to Plummer after he finally made one.
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See what happens when you move/pass the ball, somebody can get open.
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Ok, Goode. Enough with the heat checks.
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Man, wouldn’t it be great if we could put like 3 minutes in a row of good basketball together? FML
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Why is Damonte in?! Seriously this is blatant and egregious
I think for trying to get some defensive rebounds but seems like Houston gets them anyway, so why bother
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Man, wouldn’t it be great if we could put like 3 minutes in a row of good basketball together? FML
Exactly. Let Houston play from behind for a change.
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To me it seems like Houston is just getting lucky with rebounds. They just seem to land in their hands off weird bounces.
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I think for trying to get some defensive rebounds but seems like Houston gets them anyway, so why bother
They get MORE when he’s in. Weird huh.
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Why the hell are we holding the ball for 20 seconds. Pound it to Kofi they’re making themselves too easy to defend.
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Kofi can't blindly pass the ball but the other guys have to get open for him.
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Cockburn can’t pass out of the post. He definitely needs another year. Our shooters aren’t helping by just standing there. No slashing at all.
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Technical my ass.
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Ridiculous call
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Technical my ass.
Fuck that shit
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Ok, that’s bullshit
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Wait, wtf was that?! That’s complete bullshit!
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That was massive horseshit.
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Hope that ridiculous tech fires them up
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That’s fucking criminal
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Knew the T was coming on that. Hopefully it spurs the team on.
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He hung there a split second too long, but you need to swallow the whistle in a close single-elimination game.
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Complete fucking horseshit
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THERE IS NO WAY THEY CALL A T FOR THAT! Who called it? White hair?
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Maybe the T will piss us off.
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THERE IS NO WAY THEY CALL A T FOR THAT! Who called it? White hair?
Think so.
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Fucking bull fucking shit
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We just can’t catch a damn break.
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I like this lineup but they'll get tired. Maybe Curbelo and Hawkins for Trent and Goode
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Think so.
He risks injury the way momentum took his body under the board and a guy flying by him. Absolute joke call.
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It's getting away from us now
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It's getting away from us now
It's about to
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well it was fun while it lasted
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We’re fucked.
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Fucking kidding me. Amateur hour on the inbounds.
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We’re done. We just can’t put together any kind of run right now. This team absolutely blew chunks the last few weeks of the season.
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It’s over
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We suck. We can't take care of the basketball, the coach has no idea who to put on the floor, and our defense is slagging.
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We’re fucked.
underwood rode that lineup too long. Goode getting tired, already a defensive liability. Needed to put Hawkins in 2 minutes earlier.
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We’re done. We just can’t put together any kind of run right now. This team absolutely blew chunks the last few weeks of the season.
But but but co-B1G regular season champs!
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When is the last time we played well for 5 minutes straight?
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Houston is just the far better team. Better athletes. Better coached.
Credit to RJ and Goode for coming and preventing a blow out.
Happy trails Curbelo. This will be the last game he plays for Illinois and fitting he ends it getting benched
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Plummer played entirely too much. Has what, 4 points and given up 15?
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And Underwood adds insult to injury by putting DaMonte back in.
Just throw the Hail Mary and play Curbelo
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13 pts from the starters, other than Kofi. And that's with a 3 real early.
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OK now this is just a tease
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Need a couple stops
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Plummer don't wanna go home yet!
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Can't score and Williams back in the game, genius.
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Super dumb team.
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Outhustled.
And you are down 9 why is Damonte in the game?
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Can't wait for Spark, Custard, etc. to tell us how great Underachiever is and how important it is to win B1G regular season titles.
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Has Houston made like 5 shots in a row? Seems like it.
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Super dumb team.
Subbed out Goode and put in Damonte when our problem was offense.
I'm sorry, if you're throwing a hail mary it's Curbelo. If you won't put him in now, why the hell was he ever in during the first half?
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Subbed out Goode and put in Damonte when our problem was offense.
I'm sorry, if you're throwing a hail mary it's Curbelo. If you won't put him in now, why the hell was he ever in during the first half?
Because the head coach sucks?
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Pretty much need a 2005 Arizona finish now. We’re fucked.
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Final score is gonna look like a blowout
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Underwood has stuck with the sucking seniors too long.
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Underachiever should not be allowed on the team plane.
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We’re getting blown out by a team that didn’t play that well most of the game.
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Pretty much need a 2005 Arizona finish now. We’re fucked.
Deron, Dee, and Luther aren't walking through that door
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I can't even say at least we didn't give up. This was so bad that even when we tied it up it felt like a mirage
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Underwood has stuck with the sucking seniors too long.
But his record in the B1G! All those B1G regular season championships!
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Subbed out Goode and put in Damonte when our problem was offense.
I'm sorry, if you're throwing a hail mary it's Curbelo. If you won't put him in now, why the hell was he ever in during the first half?
Stupid coaching. Gotta have Williams on the court down 11 with 3 + to go because he's a senior. He gives you 0 offense. Just stupid.
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This loss is shared by virtually everyone across the board. Underwood totally shat the bed today.
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Good timeout, Brad.
You're only down two touchdowns
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From 47-45 to 65-49.
This Houston team can give Arizona trouble I think
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Put the walk ons in
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Gotta foul. We’re down too much to let them run clock.
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This loss is shared by virtually everyone across the board. Underwood totally shat the bed today.
Don't blame me.
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This loss is shared by virtually everyone across the board. Underwood totally shat the bed today.
Not as bad as the Loyola game. This game Houston is just better. Far too athletic for Illinois
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Really fucking displeased right now.
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Underwood just signed Curbelo’s transfer papers.
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Really fucking displeased right now.
Spark will tell you things are rosy.
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Dang even my betting against the illini mojo couldn't save this dumpster fire, should have taken the points... just did a money line bet... oh well a hundred bucks is still alright
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Be funny if he put Curbelo in now
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This was a winnable game. We just couldn't get our heads out of our collective asses long enough to sustain any momentum. What a shame.
Underwood living and dying with Damonte Williams is peak Underwood.
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So they’re just going to watch him run around. Brilliant
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That game is 100% on Underwood. Absolutely no logical reason for these lineups and it feels like an egregious and blatant disregard for what is good for the team. I have a feeling there’s gonna be a lot of turnover this off-season.
Curbelo gone.
Melendez gone.
Kofi won’t be back.
And of course Trent, Damonte, Grandison, and Plummer gone.
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So they’re just going to watch him run around. Brilliant
You wanted a hard foul?
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How about the B1G championship, kids?!
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Really fucking displeased right now.
Eh. I actually expected this.
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You wanted a hard foul?
No, a soft one would have done.
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Underwood just signed Curbelo’s transfer papers.
Oh no how will we ever replace a 20% shooter who turns it over all the fuckin time
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Curley Neal plays for Houston?
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2 AAs and no Sweet 16s. But Underachiever stacking up all those real and imagined B1G regular season titles. Awesome
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Oh no how will we ever replace a 20% shooter who turns it over all the fuckin time
Sounds like a future Hall of Famer to me.
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Coach Guenther had it right when he made Kelvin Sampson a top target to take over for Kruger.
The guy is a phenomenal coach. Final Four last year. 5 new starters this year with their 2 best guys hurt.
Great coach
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Oh no how will we ever replace a 20% shooter who turns it over all the fuckin time
The talent is there. We could probably use him next year.
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Oh no how will we ever replace a 20% shooter who turns it over all the fuckin time
But Moron Judy says he is an NBA HOF'er.
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That game is 100% on Underwood. Absolutely no logical reason for these lineups and it feels like an egregious and blatant disregard for what is good for the team. I have a feeling there’s gonna be a lot of turnover this off-season.
Curbelo gone.
Melendez gone.
Kofi won’t be back.
And of course Trent, Damonte, Grandison, and Plummer gone.
Yeah. I hope we all enjoyed the "success" of the last 3 years. Prepare for another long dry spell of irrelevancy.
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The talent is there. We could probably use him next year.
I have yet to see it, dude sucks
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Yeah. I hope we all enjoyed the "success" of the last 3 years. Prepare for another long dry spell of irrelevancy.
Still irrelevant with no Sweet 16s despite all that "success"
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But Moron Judy says he is an NBA HOF'er.
The talent is there. He just appears to be a head case right now who can’t put it all together. He’s still got plenty of time.
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Yeah. I hope we all enjoyed the "success" of the last 3 years. Prepare for another long dry spell of irrelevancy.
Fans like sparky will love it
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Yeah. I hope we all enjoyed the "success" of the last 3 years. Prepare for another long dry spell of irrelevancy.
Nah we’ve got some good recruits coming in. I’d say we should still see the tourney next year.
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That game is 100% on Underwood. Absolutely no logical reason for these lineups and it feels like an egregious and blatant disregard for what is good for the team. I have a feeling there’s gonna be a lot of turnover this off-season.
Curbelo gone.
Melendez gone.
Kofi won’t be back.
And of course Trent, Damonte, Grandison, and Plummer gone.
This era of Illini basketball is kind of like the Cubs if they hadn’t won the World Series and then dumped all their good players
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Fans like sparky will love it
And Custard, and Judy, and...awww fuck it.
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I have yet to see it, dude sucks
Ok 👍🏼
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I wouldn’t say he sucks, but that Marquette game was a big red flag.
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I wouldn’t say he sucks, but that Marquette game was a big red flag.
How about "eats cock" instead of sucks?
We talking Curbelo or Underachiever?
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So who’s going to be the one to come in and stroke Underwood’s dong today?
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So who’s going to be the one to come in and stroke Underwood’s dong today?
Robb?
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Did Robb die?!
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Robb?
He’s probably already swallowed Underwood.
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So disgusted...
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How about "eats cock" instead of sucks?
We talking Curbelo or Underachiever?
Curbelo
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So who’s going to be the one to come in and stroke Underwood’s dong today?
Sparky!
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So who’s going to be the one to come in and stroke Underwood’s dong today?
Not me. He absolutely sucked. Rode Damonte straight to a loss.
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-Watching Curbelo get benched the entire 2nd half was interesting.
-Damonte was terrible today.
-Trent and Plummer could not get going.
-The most horrific display of inbounding I have ever seen.
-Kofi played well but it was really just him and Melendez who were able to hold their own.
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Look at this atrocious line from Damonte. And STILL Underwood had him out there all fucking game. Yet benches Curbelo who actually MIGHT give us a chance at least. Just plain dumb and unbelievable. And that’s no defense of Curbelo. But he’s gone for sure. Needs a fresh start somewhere.
(https://i.ibb.co/DD4V82J/E44107-F7-8575-4-EA1-AE39-E6-F4-F3-EB39-BD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4ZWmYrq)
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Inexplicable rotations in the tourney. Held in the 50s against lower seeds when you have 3 senior guards and an AA center.
We didn't deserve to win today but JFC. Guenther 2 is gonna milk that conference co-title HARD.
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Curbelo
Then I take it back
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Trent, I don't know what was up with you down the stretch but thank you for being a key cog in extinguishing the dumpster fire we were in the first two years.
Damonte, you're a good kid and I know you mean well but your father you are not. You were way too much of an offensive liability no matter how good your defense was.
Kofi, if this is it for you..thank you for showing Illini nation what a legit big man looks like.
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Not me. He absolutely sucked. Rode Damonte straight to a loss.
Plummer played too much too. 2-10 from the field and let Shead shred us.
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Plummer played too much too. 2-10 from the field and let Shead shred us.
Yep. If Plummer isn’t hitting he’s worthless
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Guenther 2 is gonna milk that conference co-title HARD.
As we have seen here, there are plenty who are ready, willing, and able to chug that milk.
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Look at this atrocious line from Damonte. And STILL Underwood had him out there all fucking game. Yet benches Curbelo who actually MIGHT give us a chance at least. Just plain dumb and unbelievable. And that’s no defense of Curbelo. But he’s gone for sure. Needs a fresh start somewhere.
(https://i.ibb.co/DD4V82J/E44107-F7-8575-4-EA1-AE39-E6-F4-F3-EB39-BD.jpg) (https://ibb.co/4ZWmYrq)
Ultimate glue guy, dude…
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Lot of injuries etc this year, but not once could I guess who might be 1st off the bench. And whoever it was, might not see the floor the next game.
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Trent, I don't know what was up with you down the stretch but thank you for being a key cog in extinguishing the dumpster fire we were in the first two years.
Damonte, you're a good kid and I know you mean well but your father you are not. You were way too much of an offensive liability no matter how good your defense was.
Kofi, if this is it for you..thank you for showing Illini nation what a legit big man looks like.
This.
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Yeah idk what Underwood was doing with rotations this year, but that was probably the worst thing all season. Melendez and Curbelo will be gone. Take that shit to the bank.
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Lot of injuries etc this year, but not once could I guess who might be 1st off the bench. And whoever it was, might not see the floor the next game.
So true.
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That game is 100% on Underwood. Absolutely no logical reason for these lineups and it feels like an egregious and blatant disregard for what is good for the team. I have a feeling there’s gonna be a lot of turnover this off-season.
Curbelo gone.
Melendez gone.
Kofi won’t be back.
And of course Trent, Damonte, Grandison, and Plummer gone.
Hope Melendez stays but I won't be surprised if he leaves. Curbelo, can't play under control and the mustard comes off the hot dog too often. If he leaves, he leaves. Get to where I don't care about him. Kofi? He needs to learn how to pass out of double and triple teaming. Will miss Trent. Williams, won't miss him and the coaching staff giving him so many minutes just because his last name is Williams.
Coaching MUST get better from BU on down. Sub rotations stink. Offense stinks.
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Lot of injuries etc this year, but not once could I guess who might be 1st off the bench. And whoever it was, might not see the floor the next game.
Houston 2 starters gone for the year since December....
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Yeah idk what Underwood was doing with rotations this year, but that was probably the worst thing all season. Melendez and Curbelo will be gone. Take that shit to the bank.
Why would Melendez leave? He was becoming a rotation guy until he had the appendicitis surgery. He will be a starter next year.
Underwood loves him.
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We're not a good team. Houston kicked our ass and highlighted everything that's wrong with this team and coach. See ya
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Appreciate the seniors who brought us back to national relevance. It’s been mostly a fun ride. Wish they could have gone out on a better note. KenPom doesn’t lie. Houston’s defense was outstanding. Hate to say it but Sampson is an outstanding coach.
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Why would Melendez leave? He was becoming a rotation guy until he had the appendicitis surgery. He will be a starter next year.
Underwood loves him.
Yeah I think RJ stays. Curbelo may move on though.
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Appreciate the seniors who brought us back to national relevance. It’s been mostly a fun ride. Wish they could have gone out on a better note. KenPom doesn’t lie. Houston’s defense was outstanding. Hate to say it but Sampson is an outstanding coach.
National relevance just because made the tournament 2 years in a row?
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We're not a good team. Houston kicked our ass and highlighted everything that's wrong with this team and coach. See ya
We were pretty inconsistent all year, sucks we played our worst ball in march
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National relevance just because made the tournament 2 years in a row?
You’re such a drama queen and troll.
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National relevance just because made the tournament 2 years in a row?
I wouldn't say national relevance other than being a top 25 team but we are no longer a dumpster fire so we have that going for us.... I think you are forgetting how bad we have been since Dee Brown graduated 16 years ago
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I don't Melendez leaving for basketball reasons.
Curbelo I see leaving and I'm not heartbroken because the guy developed less than any freshman-soph in memory.
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I wouldn't say national relevance other than being a top 25 team but we are no longer a dumpster fire so we have that going for us.... I think you are forgetting how bad we have been since Dee Brown graduated 16 years ago
I am well aware of the incompetence in Champaign over the past 16 years, but it is still continuing.
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We were pretty inconsistent all year, sucks we played our worst ball in march
You mean "when it counts".
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Most of the people who follow college basketball have spent most of the last two years talking about Illinois being a national title contender squad. Being a 1 seed and a 4 seed and probably a 5 seed in 20 if the tournament wasn’t cancelled. Two second place finishes and a first place finish and a BTT title. That’s national relevance by any definition.
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Most of the people who follow college basketball have spent most of the last two years talking about Illinois being a national title contender squad. Being a 1 seed and a 4 seed and probably a 5 seed in 20 if the tournament wasn’t cancelled. Two second place finishes and a first place finish and a BTT title. That’s national relevance by any definition.
Because nationally they are wondering how you can have 1st and 2d team All Americans and get pantsed by Porter Moser?
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Nah we’ve got some good recruits coming in. I’d say we should still see the tourney next year.
We will need some transfers.
Next year starts today.
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I wouldn't say national relevance other than being a top 25 team but we are no longer a dumpster fire so we have that going for us.... I think you are forgetting how bad we have been since Dee Brown graduated 16 years ago
Again, the problem was not firing Bruce Weber, or Ron Zook, it is who was hired by the morons in Champaign to replace them.
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Why would Melendez leave? He was becoming a rotation guy until he had the appendicitis surgery. He will be a starter next year.
Underwood loves him.
When I said he's a starter earlier, I meant he's a starter for the type of player we need more of. Some size and athleticism to go with what he does well. Put some muscle on him during the off season.
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Again, the problem was not firing Bruce Weber, or Ron Zook, it is who was hired by the morons in Champaign to replace them.
What's your point?
Over the last 3 seasons Underwood has done a very good job
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What's your point?
Over the last 3 seasons Underwood has done a very good job
He’s turned completely 100% into nothing but a troll. It’s almost as bad as Truth.
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Melendez is gonna be stud. He looked to be th eonly one out there playing not scared
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What's your point?
Over the last 3 seasons Underwood has done a very good job
Really? He's done shit. We've been through this. Getting to the second weekend should be expected for the best basketball program to never win the tournament.
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Really? He's done shit. We've been through this. Getting to the second weekend should be expected for the best basketball program to never win the tournament.
Well he's only won more conference games than any coach in our history in a 3 year period... I'd say that's a lot more than shit
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Well he's only won more conference games than any coach in our history in a 3 year period... I'd say that's a lot more than shit
Don't mean shit. Juwan Howard and Michigan say "Hello."
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Y’all are arguing with a troll that isn’t even comparable to Truth. Stop feeding him.
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Don't mean shit. Juwan Howard and Michigan say "Hello."
What's Michigan's record against the Illini the last 3 years?
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Regarding the T. Funny a ref can say that after huh.
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1505619210025816064?s=21
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It will be years until Illinois makes the tourney again. Kofi was the entire difference.
Melendez has shown enough this year that I think he’ll have some good offers in the portal. He reminds me of Grayson Allen when he played at Duke.
Curbelo, as I said in December, is gone.
The starters next year assuming Kofi leaves:
C- Dainja
PF- Hawkins
SF- Goode
SG- Harris
PG- Transfer
That’s a 20 loss team
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What's Michigan's record against the Illini the last 3 years?
Who cares? As JudgeJudy posted, Howard has as many NCAA wins as coach than Illinois has total in 17 years. That is what matters.
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Regarding the T. Funny a ref can say that after huh.
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1505619210025816064?s=21
😂 loser talk. It was one point and Illinois got even closer after that. The momentum killer was Frazier missing 2/3 FTs
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Who cares? As JudgeJudy posted, Howard has as many NCAA wins as coach than Illinois has total in 17 years. That is what matters.
Michigan shouldn't have even been in the tourney this year, what would you be whining about then... 0-9 is Howard's record vs bu by the way
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Michigan shouldn't have even been in the tourney this year, what would you be whining about then... 0-9 is Howard's record vs bu by the way
Again, they are in the S16 and Illinois is going home... Again.
If Illinois were an SEC school, Brad fucking Underwood would get back and see that some staffer packed his office for him after he shit his pants in the tourney the past 2 years.
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What's your point?
Over the last 3 seasons Underwood has done a very good job
No, he had Kofi and another NBA guard.
He’s horrible without great players and there’s no great players coming in
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Despite the loss our program is definitely headed in the right direction. There’s no denying that.
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Anyone ever listen to fasteners etc postgame? 80% of callers and the dudes who run the show drink the orange kool aide hard. They hate any true comments.
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Today sucks for sure but all we can do is keep getting back here and try again. You have to make the tourney to make noise in the tourney. That's a low bar to clear, sure, but it's also a low bar we haven't consistently cleared in a long ass time before Underwood got here.
Like Tempo always says, bites at the apple.
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Anyone ever listen to fasteners etc postgame? 80% of callers and the dudes who run the show drink the orange kool aide hard. They hate any true comments.
I did not. But that is one of the reasons the revenue programs never get where they should be.
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No, he had Kofi and another NBA guard.
He’s horrible without great players and there’s no great players coming in
Part of the job is getting great players dumbass
And I disagree the incoming class is going to be a good one
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I did not. But that is one of the reasons the revenue programs never get where they should be.
Disagree, we have one of the most whiny entitled fanbases in the country!
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Part of the job is getting great players dumbass
And I disagree the incoming class is going to be a good one
Let's hope they are good enough to overcome the coach.
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Disagree, we have one of the most whiny entitled fanbases in the country!
And yet the response to calling for Underachiever's head because he has sucked in the tourney is to focus on his conference record, his co-B1G regular season titles, and his record versus Juwan Howard.
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Jeremy Werner
@JWerner247
#illini Brad Underwood: Curbelo didn't play in the second half due to "coach's decision."
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Disagree, we have one of the most whiny entitled fanbases in the country!
LOL. We've kept every revenue sport coach who should've been fired a year or more longer than we should have. A large part of that is the blue hairs and Boomer townies/Napervillish boosters are drunk on Koolaid. Of Power 5 teams we have to be in the more tolerant half.
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Regarding the T. Funny a ref can say that after huh.
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1505619210025816064?s=21
MoFo White Hair should not ref another game in this tourney! Total BS.
See the clip of the foul called on Curbelo where he didn't even touch the guy who wasn't under control going to the hoop. ASSUMED Curbelo hit him because he badly missed the layup?
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Yup I saw that too.
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I dont think Courtney Green made the Melendez call, but this is fitting for Courtney.
(https://i.ibb.co/KGMmYWb/Screenshot-20220320-170123-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dcd7SDj)
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I dont think Courtney Green made the Melendez call, but this is fitting for Courtney.
(https://i.ibb.co/KGMmYWb/Screenshot-20220320-170123-Samsung-Internet.jpg) (https://ibb.co/dcd7SDj)
I don't think Green made the call either, I think white hair made the idiot call. But Underwood giving it to Green is for a whole season of horrible calls. He deserves it.
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We had 17 TOs and shot 30%.
I don't give a fuck about the officials.
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We had 17 TOs and shot 30%.
I don't give a fuck about the officials.
Yep. We needed Plummer and Frazier offensively, and they didn’t show up. Plain and simple.
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17 turnovers ? The March Madness stat feed doesnt show turnovers.
We could play Houston 10 times. Might win a couple.
The better team is moving on.
We got work to do.
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17 turnovers ?
7 of those were on out of bounds plays.
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7 of those were on out of bounds plays.
That must be worth hanging a banner.
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7 of those were on out of bounds plays.
Why do I feel like he’s not kidding.
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Regarding the T. Funny a ref can say that after huh.
https://twitter.com/jwerner247/status/1505619210025816064?s=21
RJ hangs on rim to slow his momentum. No one around him. Get's T'd up.
Kofi literally gets teabagged by a Maryland player hanging on the rim. No call.
I don't want to sound like a "refs have it out for Illinois" guy but....