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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Judge Judy on March 11, 2022, 06:07:05 PM
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Cuonzo Martin, bye bye 👋🏼 ✌🏼
https://twitter.com/illinion247/status/1502427187139461122?s=21
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Cuonzo Martin, bye bye 👋🏼 ✌🏼
https://twitter.com/illinion247/status/1502427187139461122?s=21
Bye Clownzo.
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But that’s bad for us.
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Yeah I’d agree, but still fun to see as an Illini fan.
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If I were Mizzou AD, I’d hire Sean Miller or Gregg Marshall.
Probably Sean Miller bc with NIL you can pay these guys legally and he’d recruit well. Marshall is a way better coach tho.
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Weber to Mizzou? :D :D
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Sean Miller lost in the 1st round by 21 with Deandre Ayton on his team. He couldn't make a Final Four against a 12-seed Wisconsin team with Aaron Gordon and 3 other guys who played in the League. He wants to go to Mizzou, be my guest. We'll see NBA guys on their side again and still win half the Braggin' Rights games even if John Groce comes back here.
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Sean Miller lost in the 1st round by 21 with Deandre Ayton on his team. He couldn't make a Final Four against a 12-seed Wisconsin team with Aaron Gordon and 3 other guys who played in the League. He wants to go to Mizzou, be my guest. We'll see NBA guys on their side again and still win half the Braggin' Rights games even if John Groce comes back here.
Let's not go too far here.
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Let's not go too far here.
Agreed. Losing in the S16 and E8 is “failing” at a pretty high level.
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Will Wade gone too…
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/33486250/will-wade-lsu-men-basketball-coach-sources-confirm
I’m sure Adam Miller will be in the transfer portal again. Bad moves for him so far.
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Sean Miller lost in the 1st round by 21 with Deandre Ayton on his team. He couldn't make a Final Four against a 12-seed Wisconsin team with Aaron Gordon and 3 other guys who played in the League. He wants to go to Mizzou, be my guest. We'll see NBA guys on their side again and still win half the Braggin' Rights games even if John Groce comes back here.
Was on the ledge and jumped right off there..... !!!!!!
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Frank Martin out at South Carolina
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1503440381870059520?s=21
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Frank Martin out at South Carolina
https://twitter.com/jonrothstein/status/1503440381870059520?s=21
Didn’t yell enough to be an effective coach, I guess.
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Except for that one run in the tourney, he hasn’t done anything. I think he was in the tourney once in 10 years I think they said.
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Except for that one run in the tourney, he hasn’t done anything. I think he was in the tourney once in 10 years I think they said.
I think if he could have stayed at KSU, he would have been fine.
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I think if he could have stayed at KSU, he would have been fine.
Based on his record after a full 10 years at SC, no reason to believe he’d have done any better than Weber.
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Based on his record after a full 10 years at SC, no reason to believe he’d have done any better than Weber.
No reason to believe he would have done any worse either.
Never said he would have done better than Weber. Just said he would have done fine at KSU.
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We have some potential in a couple of threads here leading up to the Tournament. Hope it all comes to fruition.
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We have some potential in a couple of threads here leading up to the Tournament. Hope it all comes to fruition.
Eh. Same old shit around here. A certain someone looking for arguments that aren't there. It's weird and stupid.
I love the tournament. Looking forward to discussing it.
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No reason to believe he would have done any worse either.
Never said he would have done better than Weber. Just said he would have done fine at KSU.
Weber did “fine enough” to basically get fired. It’s probably safe to say the Martin/Weber comparison is a wash.
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Eh. Same old shit around here. A certain someone looking for arguments that aren't there. It's weird and stupid.
I love the tournament. Looking forward to discussing it.
Are you referring to me?
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Weber did “fine enough” to basically get fired. It’s probably safe to say the Martin/Weber comparison is a wash.
Yes. That's what the fuck I was saying. Find where I said Martin was better, or worse, than Weber. I said if Martin would have been able to stay, he would have done fine.
God damn.
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Are you referring to me?
Yes, dipshit. I'm referring to you.
Never mind. I'm out. This place will always suck as long as you are in it. Fuck me.
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Yes, dipshit. I'm referring to you.
Never mind. I'm out. This place will always suck as long as you are in it. Fuck me.
You are such a baby. JFC. I was just trying to determine what “fine” means. He had an entire decade at SC and sucked.
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You are such a baby. JFC. I was just trying to determine what “fine” means. He had an entire decade at SC and sucked.
I said that I think he would have done fine at KSU. You said no reason to believe better than Weber. I basically agreed, and said no reason to believe worse. You then said the comparison is a wash. Which I FUCKING AGREED WITH IF YOU WERE LISTENING!
I'm not trying to be argumentative, and you are. It's tiring to me. I wasn't looking for a big fight here. Call me a baby, or whatever other names you want, but it's impossible to have a decent conversation with you because you're such an asshole. Seriously. I was agreeing with you, and you were still trying to fight me. Fuck that.
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Technically Tempo was not "reading," as opposed to not "listening," to your argument, Jobu.
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You can't be sure of that.
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Technically Tempo was not "reading," as opposed to not "listening," to your argument, Jobu.
True. Good point.
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I said that I think he would have done fine at KSU. You said no reason to believe better than Weber. I basically agreed, and said no reason to believe worse. You then said the comparison is a wash. Which I FUCKING AGREED WITH IF YOU WERE LISTENING!
I'm not trying to be argumentative, and you are. It's tiring to me. I wasn't looking for a big fight here. Call me a baby, or whatever other names you want, but it's impossible to have a decent conversation with you because you're such an asshole. Seriously. I was agreeing with you, and you were still trying to fight me. Fuck that.
“Fight?” You are incredibly sensitive for such a belligerent person.
Ok, so the question is…Did Bruce Weber do “fine” at KSU? If you say yes, then ok, Martin would have “done fine” (probably).
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I’m just trying to figure out your definition of “fine.” You’re the one throwing a hissy fit.
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I would say Weber did fine at KSU. He won them 2 B12 championships and took them to an EE. That’s more than any other HOF coach that’s been there.
It’s just few and far between and his lows were really low.
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How did Weber even get into this ?
Jobu said that if Martin could have stayed at KSU, he would have been fine.
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How did Weber even get into this ?
Jobu said that if Martin could have stayed at KSU, he would have been fine.
Define “fine.”
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I would say Weber did fine at KSU. He won them 2 B12 championships and took them to an EE. That’s more than any other HOF coach that’s been there.
It’s just few and far between and his lows were really low.
Yep. He was “fine.” Till he left before being fired for not being quite fine enough.
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I’m just trying to figure out what Jobu means by “fine,” and what he’s basing that on after 9 less than fine seasons out of 10 in South Carolina. Not looking to argue or “fight.” I just want to know what “fine” means. Is fine “pretty good?” Or is it Bruce Weber?
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Fine.
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Oh Jesus 🤦🏻♂️
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My bad, fellas. I just tried to make a fairly non controversial comment. Won’t happen again, guaranteed.
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Oh Jesus 🤦🏻♂️
🙏
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My bad, fellas. I just tried to make a fairly non controversial comment. Won’t happen again, guaranteed.
Fine
;D
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My bad, fellas. I just tried to make a fairly non controversial comment. Won’t happen again, guaranteed.
You seriously are a baby. I’m just trying to discern what you mean by “fine?” Bruce Weber? Better? Slightly worse? You’re the one making this a huge issue.
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Oh Jesus 🤦🏻♂️
Should have gone with Oh Jesus, Mary, Joseph 🤦♂️
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So to break this down as simply as I can for you (because apparently I need to)…
What constitutes “fine?” Would he still have a job there (unlike Weber)? Would he be slightly better than Weber?
And…what’s your reasoning for this based on his really poor record (outside of one season) at USC? If you say “I don’t know, just a gut feeling.” That’s okay, or in this case, “fine.” Just wondering.
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The world pretty much passed Frank Martin by in the last decade and he didn’t really seem motivated to do anything to adjust accordingly. It’s almost like the F4 run and a fat contract led to some complacency. He hasn’t been the same guy since.
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Looking up his record, they went 25-9 in 2016 without making the tourney. Their SOS must have been absolutely laughable not to make the tourney after going 24-8 and 11-7 in conference before the NIT.
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So to break this down as simply as I can for you (because apparently I need to)…
What constitutes “fine?” Would he still have a job there (unlike Weber)? Would he be slightly better than Weber?
And…what’s your reasoning for this based on his really poor record (outside of one season) at USC? If you say “I don’t know, just a gut feeling.” That’s okay, or in this case, “fine.” Just wondering.
Comparable to Weber. Not basing it on shit. “Gut feeling.”
I was just making a throwaway comment. Didn’t want to argue my position on it. I don’t always want to argue with people.
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I guess Temp is the only one that’s allowed to “talk out of his ass” around here.
Again, sorry for my part in getting the thread fucked up. I should know by now that all comments come with scrutiny. From now on, prior to any comments, I will do extensive research and be ready to defend myself like I’m writing a fucking doctoral thesis.
Have a good day everyone.
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I guess Temp is the only one that’s allowed to “talk out of his ass” around here.
Again, sorry for my part in getting the thread fucked up. I should know by now that all comments come with scrutiny. From now on, prior to any comments, I will do extensive research and be ready to defend myself like I’m writing a fucking doctoral thesis.
Have a good day everyone.
I fully support your ability to express an opinion.
I hope you have a "fine" day today.
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I fully support your ability to express an opinion.
I hope you have a "fine" day today.
Same to you and yours, Mn. Hopefully better than just "fine."
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Comparable to Weber. Not basing it on shit. “Gut feeling.”
I was just making a throwaway comment. Didn’t want to argue my position on it. I don’t always want to argue with people.
Rated on a scale of 1-10 of “arguments” we’ve had, that one was about a 1. You were literally throwing in the towel “and outta here” again like 3 posts in (including mine). I seriously was just wondering what “fine” constituted.
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I guess Temp is the only one that’s allowed to “talk out of his ass” around here.
Again, sorry for my part in getting the thread fucked up. I should know by now that all comments come with scrutiny. From now on, prior to any comments, I will do extensive research and be ready to defend myself like I’m writing a fucking doctoral thesis.
Have a good day everyone.
You are such a fucking drama queen. Jesus.
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You are such a fucking drama queen. Jesus.
Dude must be off his meds.
On a separate topic I'm looking forward to seeing Kofi take it to De Sousa and other "bigs" this Friday.
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Same to you and yours, Mn. Hopefully better than just "fine."
Can you please define "fine" so I might know if it happens.
That would be appreciated.
No thesis tho, please.
Thanks in advance.
On 2nd thought, you probably have better things to do.
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Dude must be off his meds.
Nope. Still take my heart medication twice a day. Probably will for the rest of my life.
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I fully support your ability to express an opinion.
I hope you have a "fine" day today.
Hopefully better than a Bruce Weber-level "fine" day though.
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Hopefully better than a Bruce Weber-level "fine" day though.
I hope Jobu can retire, when he sees fit, with full benefits as a result of fine work; as opposed to getting terminated over a misguided perception of fine work that wasn't appreciated by the decision makers.
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I hope Jobu can retire, when he sees fit, with full benefits as a result of fine work; as opposed to getting terminated over a misguided perception of fine work that wasn't appreciated by the decision makers.
If he is taking heart meds I hope he makes it to retirement age! He better put Tempo on block too. Tempo gets him all wound up.
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If he is taking heart meds I hope he makes it to retirement age! He better put Tempo on block too. Tempo gets him all wound up.
I worry about him saying he will probably take his meds til he dies. There's a lot of variability in "probably". He should take them every day, unless/until the docs say otherwise.
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I hope Jobu can retire, when he sees fit, with full benefits as a result of fine work; as opposed to getting terminated over a misguided perception of fine work that wasn't appreciated by the decision makers.
I'm on track to retire with all of the benefits entitled. Not in any danger of getting terminated. Contrary to popular belief around here, I'm actually pretty intelligent and do good work for my employer.
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If he is taking heart meds I hope he makes it to retirement age! He better put Tempo on block too. Tempo gets him all wound up.
I have every intention of making it to a ripe old age. I have a mild heart arrhythmia that is easily controlled by medication. If I suddenly stop said medication, it could be bad. So, I won't do that. Obviously.
As far as my stress level, this place really doesn't move the needle. Did I get pissed yesterday. Sure. Does it matter? No.
I have much more in my life now that I am worried about. My daughter is getting married in June. I'm super busy at work, which is awesome because I enjoy my job. None of the shit here really matters. I just got miffed yesterday because typical Tempo dumbassery. I should know better, but I had a moment of weakness. Won't happen again.
Hope everyone else is doing well. I love this time of year. The tournament is awesome.
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This reminds me of Rambo where he says “all I wanted was something to eat.”
All I wanted was a working definition of “fine.”
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I worry about him saying he will probably take his meds til he dies. There's a lot of variability in "probably". He should take them every day, unless/until the docs say otherwise.
I will definitely take this medication, as prescribed, until I am told not to. Which means till death, most likely. That's what I meant.
Sounds Tempo-y, but that's how it works. Take the meds, and don't fuck around.
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This reminds me of Rambo where he says “all I wanted was something to eat.”
All I wanted was a working definition of “fine.”
Yeah. And I actually told you, if you care to look back. Or don't. Lol, that's fine.
Fine to me is average. Just doing the job, keeping the job, moving the program. Just, fine. I think he would have done fine. Like Weber did.
I didn't think Weber would last as long as he did there. But he did, because he did fine. I think Martin could have done that too.
If I remember correctly, Martin and the KSU AD didn't get along, and there were major issues between them that cost Frank his job there. If that would not have happened, I think Frank could have continued to steer the program down the "fine" path. Maybe better, maybe worse. Who knows.
Fair enough, Temp? I hope I answered your questions. Although, I don't think you really give a shit, lol.
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I have every intention of making it to a ripe old age. I have a mild heart arrhythmia that is easily controlled by medication. If I suddenly stop said medication, it could be bad. So, I won't do that. Obviously.
As far as my stress level, this place really doesn't move the needle. Did I get pissed yesterday. Sure. Does it matter? No.
I have much more in my life now that I am worried about. My daughter is getting married in June. I'm super busy at work, which is awesome because I enjoy my job. None of the shit here really matters. I just got miffed yesterday because typical Tempo dumbassery. I should know better, but I had a moment of weakness. Won't happen again.
Hope everyone else is doing well. I love this time of year. The tournament is awesome.
Congrats on the daughter getting married! Wouldn't it be awesome if the fiance was actually Illinikvn?
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In what world is Bruce Weber equated with "fine"?
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Congrats on the daughter getting married! Wouldn't it be awesome if the fiance was actually Illinikvn?
That would be amazing. And thanks.
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In what world is Bruce Weber equated with "fine"?
From a KSU basketball standpoint.
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This reminds me of Rambo where he says “all I wanted was something to eat.”
All I wanted was a working definition of “fine.”
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2j3le6
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In what world is Bruce Weber equated with "fine"?
(https://media2.giphy.com/media/M6R8r7y3Sbpf74ZLaZ/200w.webp?cid=ecf05e47me5gn52ia0lgcbbx3hu74hyxxymnze05aoschcbi&rid=200w.webp&ct=g)
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(https://media2.giphy.com/media/M6R8r7y3Sbpf74ZLaZ/200w.webp?cid=ecf05e47me5gn52ia0lgcbbx3hu74hyxxymnze05aoschcbi&rid=200w.webp&ct=g)
I love her
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(https://media2.giphy.com/media/M6R8r7y3Sbpf74ZLaZ/200w.webp?cid=ecf05e47me5gn52ia0lgcbbx3hu74hyxxymnze05aoschcbi&rid=200w.webp&ct=g)
Aubrey Plaza is more than fine
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Truth’s wife?
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Aubrey Plaza is more than fine
I imagine if you didn’t please her in the sack, she’d let you know.
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If he’d have just played Mark Smith 3-5 more minutes
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I imagine if you didn’t please her in the sack, she’d let you know.
You just need to try and give her 3-5 more minutes 🤷🏻♂️
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You just need to try and give her 3-5 more minutes 🤷🏻♂️
I would be doing good to give her 3-5 minutes total.
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https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1504177173384605697?cxt=HHwWgsC5re7K9N8pAAAA
God damn. Archie Miller went from the next Indiana stud head coach to...this.
I think I might remember some on here praising this douchebag for no apparent reason.
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https://twitter.com/PeteThamel/status/1504177173384605697?cxt=HHwWgsC5re7K9N8pAAAA
God damn. Archie Miller went from the next Indiana stud head coach to...this.
I think I might remember some on here praising this douchebag for no apparent reason.
Define "praising"....Wasn't Rhode Island good when Harrick was HC there?
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Define "praising"....Wasn't Rhode Island good when Harrick was HC there?
I don't know. Are you trying to say that Rhode Island is a good job? Compared to Indiana?
Praising, as in, OMG, Indiana got Archie Miller! Swoon! I want to fuck Archie Miller!
That.
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Just ask Tempo his thoughts to clear it up.
Putting up the Tempo bat signal.
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Just ask Tempo his thoughts to clear it up.
Putting up the Tempo bat signal.
I know Tempo wanted to fuck him. I was trying not to go there.
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I know Tempo wanted to fuck him. I was trying not to go there.
I knew that’s what you were getting at 😂
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I don't know. Are you trying to say that Rhode Island is a good job? Compared to Indiana?
Praising, as in, OMG, Indiana got Archie Miller! Swoon! I want to fuck Archie Miller!
That.
Sounds like "Tempo praise" there.
He can be "Bruce Weber fine," make a nice living at Rhode Island, and not have to deal with the Indiana inbreds. Some nice waterfront property in Rhode Island. He can hang with the Vanderbilts and Anderson Cooper.
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Sounds like "Tempo praise" there.
He can be "Bruce Weber fine," make a nice living at Rhode Island, and not have to deal with the Indiana inbreds. Some nice waterfront property in Rhode Island. He can hang with the Vanderbilts and Anderson Cooper.
Yeah, I just thought he might be more ambitious. If not, that's "fine."
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Yeah, I just thought he might be more ambitious. If not, that's "fine."
Does not seem like he had many options after stinking at Indiana. As a great man once said, "The world needs ditch diggers, too."
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Does not seem like he had many options after stinking at Indiana. As a great man once said, "The world needs ditch diggers, too."
I don’t disagree.
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Rhode Island is a fine place to be for someone hoping to turn it into a Power 5 opportunity. Of course, he'll have to do a fine job before he could think about a job at a place like, say, Indiana.
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Define "praising"....Wasn't Rhode Island good when Harrick was HC there?
I remember Tom Penders doing well there before Texas.
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Danny Hurley is doing a fine job at UConn too.
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Rhode Island is a fine place to be for someone hoping to turn it into a Power 5 opportunity. Of course, he'll have to do a fine job before he could think about a job at a place like, say, Indiana.
So, all of the Archie Miller dick sucking may have been unwarranted?
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So, all of the Archie Miller dick sucking may have been unwarranted?
That may be fine for some, but in the end it may depend on where the goal posts are on any given day.
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Archie Miller ran a top 3-5 midmajor at Dayton. I’m sure you geniuses all knew he’d fail at IU.
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Does not seem like he had many options after stinking at Indiana. As a great man once said, "The world needs ditch diggers, too."
Archie is still young. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he gets another crack at the big time.
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3-5
Awesome
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Archie is still young. Wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he gets another crack at the big time.
I don’t think he’ll be much better or worse than Weber.
Comparable.
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So, all of the Archie Miller dick sucking may have been unwarranted?
Someone was behind the curve on both Millers.
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Archie Miller ran a top 3-5 midmajor at Dayton. I’m sure you geniuses all knew he’d fail at IU.
Honestly, I didn’t think he would fail as bad as he did. But I didn’t think it was a foregone conclusion that he would be successful.
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Awesome
I originally posted 3-4, but quickly realized I was missing an opportunity.
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I originally posted 3-4, but quickly realized I was missing an opportunity.
Well played.
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I don’t think he’ll be much better or worse than Weber.
Comparable.
So you are saying he should be fine? ;D
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So you are saying he should be fine? ;D
Define fine
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Define fine
“Fine” isn’t very definitive when talking wins and losses.
“Fine” got Bruce Weber to quit before he got fired.