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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: fucking on February 07, 2022, 06:59:32 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwzESkBW2GE
https://youtu.be/4-cp_tbpzhg
https://t.co/ZpTFuuXdoN
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https://illinireport.info/2022/02/the-championship-game/
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Excited for this one. Will be a tough one but we have a shot.
https://youtu.be/fvnDEk2OQGg
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https://illinireport.info/2022/02/the-championship-game/
Good write up.
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Tell our depressed lawyer friend in Chicago that the game airs on BTN, tomorrow at 9 CT.
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Tell our depressed lawyer friend in Chicago that the game airs on BTN, tomorrow at 9 CT.
Calvin is depressed?
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https://www.hammerandrails.com/2022/2/7/22922549/opening-odds-and-game-preview-3-purdue-vs-13-illinois
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Purdue -5.5. Give me Purdue in a comfortable cover.
Purdue- 83
Illinois- 71
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Jason Benetti and Robbie Hummel tonight.
The Larry Scirotto crew is doing the Wisco at Sparty game. I wonder if we get Borowski and Courtney Green.
Wisco up 55-51 with 3+ left
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Is there a game Benetti hasn't called yet? The man is everywhere.
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Calvin is depressed?
That's HIPPPA, bro.
That said, we're all on message board devoted to Illinois sports so I suspect the DSM criteria are met.
Looking forward to this game on BTN.
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Everyone must have believed it when Rob claimed the game is tomorrow?
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Everyone must have believed it when Rob claimed the game is tomorrow?
That post was from yesterday.
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Curbelo has some active hands tonight
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That post was from yesterday.
Didn't see it until today, after the site came back up. Ok...everyone watching BTN then?
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Wow Plummer.
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Actually getting to watch an entire game for once. Let's see if I jynx it.
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2 fouls on Edey
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Was that supposed to be a pass to Kofi?
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So Morton is the unknown that's going to light us up.
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This is so much better of atmosphere than the 11am Monday game in Champaign
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Getting killed by purdues loser squad
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This is so much better of atmosphere than the 11am Monday game in Champaign
kind of screwed on gm time of that one. Why didnt the play like nebraska?
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10-0 run last 2 1/2. We need something to fall.
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Put Curbelo on the bench. Dude is trash
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Jesus fucking christ what a fucking choke
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Curbello blows this year.
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Plummer and Frazier have shit shot selection tonight
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0-14 run.. Did Groce come back?
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That was a phantom call on Kofi.. barely touched anybody
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Put that shot up Damonte
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Kofi called for breathing near a Purdue player.
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Rebound the fucking ball!!
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Underachiever needs to yell more.
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Clean up the glass FFS
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HIT YOUR FREE SHOTS
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Garbage
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HIT YOUR FREE SHOTS
Really need Purdue to miss their free shots as it looks like they will get quite a few more than Illinois will.
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19-3 The last 4:30.
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Gonna be really hard to win if we’re not getting some 3 pt production from Trent and Plummer.
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Good Lawd, Trent. Dafuq was that?
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Granted, I’ve not watched a ton of basketball this year, but in the last 10 minutes we threw the two worst passes I’ve seen all year.
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WHAT A THREE
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That’s what I’m talkimbout!
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Plummer hopefully catching fire again
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Better hope Stefanovic keeps missing ,
And Plummer keeps hitting 3s!
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Nice job to go on a run without Lofi before half.
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Dodging a bullet with the cold stretch we had.
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Ticky-tack mfin foul.
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Nice job Curbelo!
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Entertaining half of collegiate basketball
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DAMN Curbello!!! Great to be going in to the half up after that cold spell
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Up 2 without Kofi for the last 6 minutes and a 19-3 run by Purdue. I like it.
High level basketball game thus far.
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Up 2 without Kofi for the last 6 minutes and a 19-3 run by Purdue. I like it.
High level basketball game thus far.
Agreed. If we can keep them from going on a big run in 2nd half we’ve got a great chance.
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Matched them on the boards after getting pounded early. BBV played tough.
Plummer with 14. Curbelo with 9.
Be nice to shoot, and make, a few more free throws.
And get Frazier started. He's 0-5.
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Underachiever needs to yell more.
Tempo said he yells too much!
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That kid was giving the camera 2 fingers.
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Purdue needs far more out of Ivey/Stefanovic to win this game.
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Underwood should have called a TO. DaMonte deep 3 not the ideal shot when we’re on the wrong side of a run.
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Kofi knocks the shit out of Edey, no call. Purdue benefits when Hunter hits the 3.
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I'm not sure DaMonte at 1-6 from 3 Is a great idea.
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Tempo said he yells too much!
Does yelling actually work? How much did Wooden yell?
I wouldn’t mind if he yelled at some refs more.
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Purdue losers careering
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Illinois on pace to give up 72 points in the 2nd half alone
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I'm not sure DaMonte at 1-6 from 3 Is a great idea.
That makes a few of us that feel that way.
Ivey starting to get going.
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Dangerously close to getting blown out.
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Big shot by Melendez
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Dangerously close to getting blown out.
They were bound to make a run. Just have to make sure that’s the only one they go on.
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Way too many easy buckets for them.
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Ivey is an Ayo clone in transition
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20 point run only going to get bigger
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Big ten blows.
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Well, kinda like my life, it was fun for a while.
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Not our night.
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Oh fuck. Not Trent.
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Oh fuck, not good.
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Jesus
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Underwood: “C’mon, Trent. Get up.” Walks off.
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Well this sucks
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Pretty dismal second half in plenty of ways.
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Blown out and Frazier hurt.
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Gonna take an impressive run just to make this interesting. Purdue is just a tough matchup for us.
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Underwood: “C’mon, Trent. Get up.” Walks off.
Given how much the players embellish any injury, probably an appropriate response.
Frazier was supposed to be out like 6 weeks earlier and missed 1 game.
Same for Ayo last year
None of our guys play with pain. Lot of weak guys out there
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Got his knee knocked. Hurts like fuck, but hopefully no big deal.
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It really just isn't our night.
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Gonna take an impressive run just to make this interesting. Purdue is just a tough matchup for us.
Any team with a high IQ is a tough match up for us. Our shot selection is straight up shit.
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Dribble dribble shoot
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It really just isn't our second half.
Fixed that....
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Way too many easy buckets for them.
Pissed away this 2nd half and Trent goes down.
And Kofi whiffs a dunk.
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Not going to win many gms when trent is a no show and not a great gm from kofi
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😂 Trent back in the game what a drama queen
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Any chance Kofi had for NPOY is pretty much out the window.
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😂 Trent back in the game what a drama queen
Dude, you had to have seen the contact. I’m sure that hurt like hell.
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Would have been nice to at least have some drama in the 2nd half.
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Purdue getting a lot of players playing well.
Us ? Not so much so, and 0-9 from 3 this half aint helping.
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Purdue is really, really good. 2nd half was too much Ivey and we just couldn't get any kind of shot to fall.
Shit happens. Learn from this and move on.
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Dude, you had to have seen the contact. I’m sure that hurt like hell.
Dudes on the sw side of Chicago get shot in their legs on a daily basis and don’t cry that much. If you need help limping off the floor don’t come into the game 5 minutes later it makes you look like an crybaby
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Would have been nice to at least have some drama in the 2nd half.
He should shelve whatever speech he gave them at halftime.
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Painter has quietly had a nice run at Purdue, and has only gotten better over the years.
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He should shelve whatever speech he gave them at halftime.
I think he gave them the 5 fingers make a fist speech.
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Purdue is really, really good. 2nd half was too much Ivey and we just couldn't get any kind of shot to fall.
Shit happens. Learn from this and move on.
What’s there to learn? Purdue is far better
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Painter has quietly had a nice run at Purdue, and has only gotten better over the years.
I feel like Underwood’s ceiling at Illinois is Gene Keady
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What’s there to learn? Purdue is far better
Who will be willing to dish out some hard fouls?
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Dude, you had to have seen the contact. I’m sure that hurt like hell.
It's not like Trent did "a Paul Pierce", going off in a wheel chair and then runs back onto the court from the locker room.
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Dudes on the sw side of Chicago get shot in their legs on a daily basis and don’t cry that much. If you need help limping off the floor don’t come into the game 5 minutes later it makes you look like an crybaby
Apparently you’ve never been hit hard in the knee.
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This is an ass-whooping. And not going to help Underwood’s 2nd half adjustments narrative.
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Call me a quitter but I am turning it off.
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This will be our 3rd loss of15 plus points or more this season
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Where’s Judge Judy, did he have a heart attack?
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Utterly dominated in the 2nd half. No answers for anything.
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Can I go back to calling him Underwhelm
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This is an ass-whooping. And not going to help Underwood’s 2nd half adjustments narrative.
They are going to come after you for this take!
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We have very good guards, but we don’t have a Jaden Ivey.
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How about some hard fouls instead of looking like whipped dogs?
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Pathetic 2d half performance.
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How about some hard fouls instead of looking like whipped dogs?
Really?
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Really?
Really. Play with some heart instead of looking like a bunch of pussies.
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Really. Play with some heart instead of looking like a bunch of pussies.
SMH
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SMH
Edey elbowed Kofi in the head last game. Still.out there at the end up big. Take a shot at him. This team is soft.
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They just took us to the woodshed in every facet of the game in the 2nd half. We had no counter punch whatsoever.
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Another 2nd half collapse…
Never saw that coming…🤣🤣🤣
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How about some hard fouls instead of looking like whipped dogs?
No sense in someone getting carried away, foul somebody hard because you're mad, a possible fight ensues and the honchos dole out suspensions. Take it like a man, learn from it. Get prepared for the next game.
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They just took us to the woodshed in every facet of the game in the 2nd half. We had no counter punch whatsoever.
PAMan wanted us to throw some punches.
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Top 2 team top 10 team my ass…
Tourney team yes…
The rest of it who cares…
Next season can’t get here fast enough…
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PAMan wanted us to throw some punches.
Hard fouls.
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Missed god knows how many wide open threes which led to runouts with Ivey going downhill against helpless defenders. When a team can neutralize Kofi you can’t miss open threes when that’s your whole thing.
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No sense in someone getting carried away, foul somebody hard because you're mad, a possible fight ensues and the honchos dole out suspensions. Take it like a man, learn from it. Get prepared for the next game.
Like learning how to make better second half adjustments?
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Top 2 team top 10 team my ass…
Tourney team yes…
The rest of it who cares…
Next season can’t get here fast enough…
I'll play. Why do you think next year is going to be better than this year?
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Hard fouls.
Where’s Grayson Allen when you need him? At least we have Omar Payne.
SMH
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Where’s Grayson Allen when you need him?
Was thinking during the 2d half that he would know what needed to be done.
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Purdue is good. Best team by far in an arguably weak again BT.
We are next best, but have much smaller margin for error.
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Like learning how to make better second half adjustments?
Yes, Underwood needs to do a better job making adjustments offensively and defensively when things are going badly.
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I'll play. Why do you think next year is going to be better than this year?
Because THIS in its current form is unwatchable…
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The team that was "supposed" to win did...couldn't hit the broad side of the barn tonight. Defense had no answer for Ivey, the home team played like a 3 vs a 13...enough, move on and regroup. No choice now but to go into every game not taking the first punch but delivering them.
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Because THIS in its current form is unwatchable…
Why is next year going to be more watchable?
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The team that was "supposed" to win did...couldn't hit the broad side of the barn tonight. Defense had no answer for Ivey, the home team played like a 3 vs a 13...enough, move on and regroup. No choice now but to go into every game not taking the first punch but delivering them.
Not sure they were supposed to win by that much...especially after being down by 2 at half.
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On a delay just finished. Man we got our ass kicked there in the second half and actually much of the first half.
The difference, a top 5 NBA draft pick guard. That dude killed us, but that was sort of expected.
We have Kofi but we know he gets neutralized against teams that have their own top bigs. Purdue, Zona are two prime examples. Curbelo and Frazier and DW are a huge step or two down from Ivey.
Surprised we haven't tried two bigs at once. With Benj playing better defense of late, and a sub-par Payne at least showing he can do some stuff right against smaller guys. Maybe having one or to the other a alongside Kofi couldn't hurt from time to time.
Especially when guard for guard we're getting beat like today. Nice win for PU. They may be #1 soon.
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Where’s Grayson Allen when you need him? At least we have Omar Payne.
SMH
I'm surprised that POS hasn't gotten the sheet beat out of him in the Association with the stupid crap he does.
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I fucking hate purdue
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Live by the sword, die by the sword.
7-16 from 3 in the 1st half. 1-10 in the 2nd.
We lost to the best team in the conference, at their house. They have a lot of weapons.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_axVqBbHtD0
Said Curbelo has practiced only 5 or 6 times this year.
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Underachiever called them soft (at rebounding). Where is Tempo's thread about Underachiever throwing players under the bus?
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PU did give us their best punch. We didn't punch back, except for BBV throwing a few counter punches.
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Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I just don't see us making a deep run in the tourney. We can't win the big games (purdue and Arizona). I am really getting sick of these long scoring droughts in games. It's frustrating. Is it too much to ask to play 40 minutes of basketball?
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We don't stop dribble penetration by quick athletic guards well at all. And we get burned on back cuts for last two years regularly by everybody.
Really don't have an elite on ball defender on perimeter. Couple above average guys but not quick or long enough.
Need to mix it up on D when something isn't working at least for a few sets.
A zone would at least make them respond to a different look.
Purdue is very good.
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Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I just don't see us making a deep run in the tourney. We can't win the big games (purdue and Arizona). I am really getting sick of these long scoring droughts in games. It's frustrating. Is it too much to ask to play 40 minutes of basketball?
I thought we got rid of Weber ball years ago?
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On a brighter note I like the Melendez kid. Hope he keeps getting more minutes, maybe some of Damonte's.
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Underachiever called them soft (at rebounding). Where is Tempo's thread about Underachiever throwing players under the bus?
Did he at least mention how they should hand out a few hard fouls after being down 15?
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On a brighter note I like the Melendez kid. Hope he keeps getting more minutes, maybe some of Damonte's.
Me thinks he gets Hawkins first.
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Melendez looks good.
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Me thinks he gets Hawkins first.
I agree. Hawkins showed promise last year when he played with no pressure on him. It's different this year and he hasn't stepped up. Sometimes, it's maturity and sometimes it's character. We'll see.
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Did he at least mention how they should hand out a few hard fouls after being down 15?
He should have.
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I’m way AOTC on Melendez. You all are slacking. Rob seems to think I’m stupid for thinking he should be getting more minutes.
https://twitter.com/wcia3bret/status/1491274119325061121?s=21
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He should have.
Conrad Dobler agrees.
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Underachiever called them soft (at rebounding). Where is Tempo's thread about Underachiever throwing players under the bus?
We're still doing the dumb 'Underachiever' thing despite the best record in the league over the last three years?
Legitimately one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of in my life.
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Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I just don't see us making a deep run in the tourney. We can't win the big games (purdue and Arizona). I am really getting sick of these long scoring droughts in games. It's frustrating. Is it too much to ask to play 40 minutes of basketball?
The good news is unless we fall to an 8/9 seed we won't see Arizona or Purdue types until the S16 or later, and we've played pretty well against other likely tournament teams in Iowa, Indiana, MSU, and Wisconsin.
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We're still doing the dumb 'Underachiever' thing despite the best record in the league over the last three years?
Legitimately one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of in my life.
Well it is ThePAMan, so 🤷🏻♂️
Now you’re gonna be called a homer for pointing out facts. To him the only thing that matters is the tourney and Loyola game. How quickly people forget the Groce and last half or more of the Weber years.
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Because THIS in its current form is unwatchable…
We're in first.
If it's unwatchable don't watch it.
How quick we forget what unwatchable basketball actually looks like.
I have no qualms saying anyone complaining presently about us being unwatchable or the coach underachieving should be sentenced to another decade of Weberball.
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The rest of our games are winnable.
We've got Rutgers, Sparty and Sven's team on the road. Win the home games and get road kill.
Wisco and PU have a head to head in Madison. PU has 4 road games remaining.
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Hawkins has been pretty awful since we started playing actual teams. Commits stupid fouls and then sulks when he gets called for them.
I’m usually happy when his threes draw iron.
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Coleman Hawkins and his defense on Harper was a big reason we did so well against Rutgers. His regression this season was sooo bad for the team and obviously himself.
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We're still doing the dumb 'Underachiever' thing despite the best record in the league over the last three years?
Legitimately one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of in my life.
And still less stupid than “we should hand out some hard fouls so we don’t go out like pussies.”
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Minus a losing streak, I’d be shocked if we are worse than a 4 seed. Could see a 2 seed if we finish strong. 1 seed if we manage to pull out B1G and conference tourney.
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The good news is unless we fall to an 8/9 seed we won't see Arizona or Purdue types until the S16 or later, and we've played pretty well against other likely tournament teams in Iowa, Indiana, MSU, and Wisconsin.
Knowing the NCAA, they would put us in a tough bracket with under seeded teams.
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We're in first.
If it's unwatchable don't watch it.
How quick we forget what unwatchable basketball actually looks like.
I have no qualms saying anyone complaining presently about us being unwatchable or the coach underachieving should be sentenced to another decade of Weberball.
Yeah. The fact that I agree with this 100% should say a lot.
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Yeah. The fact that I agree with this 100% should say a lot.
well he's also responding to a well known troll so there's that :-X
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well he's also responding to a well known troll so there's that :-X
Wouldn’t I have fit the description of a “well known troll” in the eyes of most?
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I guess not quite on the level of Truth.
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Wouldn’t I have fit the description of a “well known troll” in the eyes of most?
you would be well known at least
your trolling is pretty subtle
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I guess not quite on the level of Truth.
That's a troll that's so sad that he's emulating Truth, too. Not even the genuine stalkery article.
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Conrad Dobler agrees.
Meanest man in football!
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We're still doing the dumb 'Underachiever' thing despite the best record in the league over the last three years?
Legitimately one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of in my life.
Guy has not done squat so far in the Tourney except get pantsed by the Great Porter Moser.
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Legitimately one of the stupidest things I've ever heard of in my life.
You must have JizzJerkoff on Block.
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And still less stupid than “we should hand out some hard fouls so we don’t go out like pussies.”
Your guy said they played soft....
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Minus a losing streak, I’d be shocked if we are worse than a 4 seed. Could see a 2 seed if we finish strong. 1 seed if we manage to pull out B1G and conference tourney.
Just hope Underachiever doesn't get matched up against OK and the Great Porter Moser in the Tourney this year.
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Knowing the NCAA, they would put us in a tough bracket with under seeded teams.
Facing Loyola in the Tourney again terrifies me.
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Guy has not done squat so far in the Tourney except get pantsed by the Great Porter Moser.
He turned us from a mediocre tournament-missing program into this far a perennial tournament team. Three years in a row now.
10 years of Weber for you. You deserve it.
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You must have JizzJerkoff on Block.
From what I can tell he’s a better poster than you here, which should be embarrassing.
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Conrad Dobler agrees.
I wonder what Lloyd Dobler thinks.
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Guy has not done squat so far in the Tourney except get pantsed by the Great Porter Moser.
Was I not spot on, Spark…
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You must have JizzJerkoff on Block.
Classy. It’s his only shtick here. When it comes to substance, he doesn’t actually have much.
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He turned us from a mediocre tournament-missing program into this far a perennial tournament team. Three years in a row now.
10 years of Weber for you. You deserve it.
Weber sucked. Illinois should be a perennial tournament team even with a deaf, dumb and blind guy running the program. Win some fucking tournament games.
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Weber sucked. Illinois should be a perennial tournament team even with a deaf, dumb and blind guy running the program. Win some fucking tournament games.
You deserve Weber.
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From what I can tell he’s a better poster than you here, which should be embarrassing.
He's a piece of shit. He probably thought Jobu really died too. You actually thought Jobu died? You did not think it was a bit? How gullible are you? You own bitcoin?
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He's a piece of shit. He probably thought Jobu really died too. You actually thought Jobu died? You did not think it was a bit? How gullible are you? You own bitcoin?
Uh oh, you don’t agree with him Spark, so here comes the meltdown and personal attacks on you. Enjoy!
Yet for some reason he thinks he’s so much better than people on here and wants to put Jobu down for the exact same thing.
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He's a piece of shit. He probably thought Jobu really died too. You actually thought Jobu died? You did not think it was a bit? How gullible are you? You own bitcoin?
Oof. Flailing.
What in the world happened to you?
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Your guy said they played soft....
I think there’s a difference between playing hard and playing dirty.
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You deserve Weber.
Unfortunately too many Illinois fans deserved Weber. No one gives a shit who wins B1G Championships. People remember losing to ND, Austin Peay and Michigan, NC, and fucking Loyola in the Tournament.
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Unfortunately too many Illinois fans deserved Weber. No one gives a shit who wins B1G Championships. People remember losing to ND, Austin Peay and Michigan, NC, and fucking Loyola in the Tournament.
Agree - and top of the list are the morons who start whining as soon as a coach turns the bus around.
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Oof. Flailing.
What in the world happened to you?
Whart happened to you? Being mad about Jobu claiming to be dead is fucked up.
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Whart happened to you? Being mad about Jobu claiming to be dead is fucked up.
Yeah man, what a messed up thing, not pretending to be a shitposting robot.
I’ve sought therapy - you? If not you absolutely should. You have obviously gone downhill.
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I think there’s a difference between playing hard and playing dirty.
No one said to sucker punch anyone except you. A hard foul to send a message is fine.
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Yeah man, what a messed up thing, not pretending to be a shitposting robot.
I’ve sought therapy - you? If not you absolutely should. You have obviously gone downhill.
I'm fine. I hope it works out for you.
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I'm fine. I hope it works out for you.
You were a friend, and have become a person I’m legitimately sad to see post. It’s really gross and unbecoming of any reasonable person.
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If anyone wonders why I don’t come here, look no further.
This place has become a group of nominal adults egging eachother on to act like middle school kids high fiving each other when they call someone a fag. It’s gross as hell.
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You were a friend, and have become a person I’m legitimately sad to see post. It’s really gross and unbecoming of any reasonable person.
Spark, it is a message board. It always has been. Don't take it so seriously. You will feel a lot better.
If in the Chicago area, PM me. I'll buy you a beer.
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Spark, it is a message board. It always has been. Don't take it so seriously. You will feel a lot better.
If in the Chicago area, PM me. I'll buy you a beer.
Hard pass.
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If anyone wonders why I don’t come here, look no further.
This place has become a group of nominal adults egging eachother on to act like middle school kids high fiving each other when they call someone a fag. It’s gross as hell.
Agreed.
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Hard pass.
Suit yourself. Maybe your racist buddy JudgeJudy will buy you a White Claw.
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Suit yourself. Maybe your racist buddy JudgeJudy will buy you a White Claw.
No I’m not racist, it’s just another BS meme you’ve made up on here along with you talking about horrible things regarding my daughter and I. It’s childish and I’m glad somebody reasonably called you out for the trash you’ve been posting on here.
Spark said hard pass and you immediately insult him and I with childish comments. Take your own advice and “relax, it’s just a message board.”
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Hey, hold on here. Keep me out of this shit. I get myself in enough trouble around here on my own.
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No I’m not racist, it’s just another BS meme you’ve made up on here along with you talking about horrible things regarding my daughter and I. It’s childish and I’m glad somebody reasonably called you out for the trash you’ve been posting on here.
Spark said hard pass and you immediately insult him and I with childish comments. Take your own advice and “relax, it’s just a message board.”
I looked at this one because I knew what was coming. And I was not disappointed by the irony. Do you need a crying towel? We all know what a little whiny, racist, piece of shit, closeted homosexual, bitch you are. Your posting history has proven it over and over again. And no, I will not let you eat me out. Maybe you should go to therapy too.
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I looked at this one because I knew what was coming. And I was not disappointed by the irony. Do you need a crying towel? We all know what a little whiny, racist, piece of shit, closeted homosexual, bitch you are. Your posting history has proven it over and over again. And no, I will not let you eat me out. Maybe you should go to therapy too.
Sure you did. You’re full of shit. Finally you’re getting called out on your bullshit and now you are having a meltdown. People like you are pathetic. YOU’RE the one on here trying to act all big and bad, bullying people. People are actually seeing your true colors and you can’t handle it and just HAD to unblock me. 😂 Right. Whatever. Looks like you’re the one on here crying now that others don’t agree with your BS.
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Yeah, I've run out of fucks to give. The lionizing of Underwood for merely being competent, and getting us where we had been without doing anything in the tourney, is way too "Peoriamanish/Harv/BumbleBee Dipshit" for me. And JudgeJudy does need to come to grips with his sexuality. Way too many Freudien slips for there not to be a real issue there.
And I hope therapy helps Spark get where he wants to be.
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No one said to sucker punch anyone except you. A hard foul to send a message is fine.
Like a clean, solid pick on Ivey ?
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Yeah, I've run out of fucks to give. The lionizing of Underwood for merely being competent, and getting us where we had been without doing anything in the tourney, is way too "Peoriamanish/Harv/BumbleBee Dipshit" for me. And JudgeJudy does need to come to grips with his sexuality. Way too many Freudien slips for there not to be a real issue there.
And I hope therapy helps Spark get where he wants to be.
There's a mile-wide gap between "lionizing Underwood for merely being competent" and pushing back on idiots saying the guy who turned our program around quickly is 'underachieving' because of one tournament game.
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Like a clean, solid pick on Ivey ?
You can't do that, Mn! That would be too much like Conrad Dobler!
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There's a mile-wide gap between "lionizing Underwood for merely being competent" and pushing back on idiots saying the guy who turned our program around quickly is 'underachieving' because of one tournament game.
I am sorry, Spark, but the coaching, or lack thereof, in the Loyola game was atrocious and unforgiveable. Let's not forget how long he stuck with that gimmick D before finally realizing it had no place in the B1G.
If he can turn in some consistent tournament teams, I will gladly say I was an idiot. In light of what we have seen, I am waiting for some good tourney results before I jump on board.
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I am sorry, Spark, but the coaching, or lack thereof, in the Loyola game was atrocious and unforgiveable. Let's not forget how long he stuck with that gimmick D before finally realizing it had no place in the B1G.
If he can turn in some consistent tournament teams, I will gladly say I was an idiot. In light of what we have seen, I am waiting for some good tourney results before I jump on board.
He has turned in consistent tournament teams (three in a row now) and you're calling him Underachiever - so apologies for not really buying that.
Your argument hinges literally on one game. I'll take the multiple year sample size, especially given what this program was like when he got here. It's like you forgot.
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You can't do that, Mn! That would be too much like Conrad Dobler!
Odd. I usually hear "he got his bell rung", not "he got Conrad Doblered".
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He has turned in consistent tournament teams (three in a row now) and you're calling him Underachiever - so apologies for not really buying that.
Your argument hinges literally on one game. I'll take the multiple year sample size, especially given what this program was like when he got here. It's like you forgot.
I didn't forget anything. I remember exacty what it was like when he got here. But I also remember what the program was like when Lou Henson was around and pre-Weber.
The coaching in that one game was malpractice. Being a "consistent tournament team" is not really some a great achievement in the grand scheme of things or for Illinois basketball. It should be a "given" at Illinois. Late Weber, Groce, blah blah blah consistently missing the tourney are (or should be) the anomoly. Getting there is not really an achievement. Ask Bill Self.
I am still waiting for a multiple year sample size with multiple tournament wins.
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I didn't forget anything. I remember exacty what it was like when he got here. But I also remember what the program was like when Lou Henson was around and pre-Weber.
The coaching in that one game was malpractice. Being a "consistent tournament team" is not really some a great achievement in the grand scheme of things or for Illinois basketball. It should be a "given" at Illinois. Late Weber, Groce, blah blah blah consistently missing the tourney are (or should be) the anomoly. Getting there is not really an achievement. Ask Bill Self.
I am still waiting for a multiple year sample size with multiple tournament wins.
Seems pretty likely you'll move the goalposts then like you just did.
Anyway, Underwood has been about as good as anyone could've expected here. He turned us from a team that hadn't made two tournaments in a row in over a decade to one of the top teams in one of the top conferences in America. Other than a small group of morons, everyone sees what's right in front of their faces. He's done a fantastic job, is recruiting well, etc. The tournament wins will come if he keeps winning at the pace he's been winning. There's nothing to whine about, but don't let that stop you. Just unreal after the stretch we had in the decade plus before he got here that people would be whining about the last three seasons.
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Being a "consistent tournament team" is not really some a great achievement in the grand scheme of things........
Wisconsin......
NCAA appearances.
1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2021)
Wisconsin.
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Seems pretty likely you'll move the goalposts then like you just did.
Anyway, Underwood has been about as good as anyone could've expected here. He turned us from a team that hadn't made two tournaments in a row in over a decade to one of the top teams in one of the top conferences in America. Other than a small group of morons, everyone sees what's right in front of their faces. He's done a fantastic job, is recruiting well, etc. The tournament wins will come if he keeps winning at the pace he's been winning. There's nothing to whine about, but don't let that stop you. Just unreal after the stretch we had in the decade plus before he got here that people would be whining about the last three seasons.
The Bigotry of Low Expectations is strong and thriving in two places: Public Education and Illinois Basketball.
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Wisconsin......
NCAA appearances.
1999, 2000, 2001, 2002, 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, 2019, 2021)
Wisconsin.
And boom goes the dynamite.
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The Bigotry of Low Expectations is strong and thriving in two places: Public Education and Illinois Basketball.
So, so dumb.
One sure fire way to make sure we never get to the place we both want us to get to is to turn on coaches as soon as they turn our program around.
There have only been three tournaments played since we got Underwood. We missed the first two during the rebuild, and got a one seed before being upset by an underserved team in the third one. We could’ve gone deeper last year for sure but other than that single loss, have the results really been worse than you expected?
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No one said to sucker punch anyone except you. A hard foul to send a message is fine.
What’s the message? That we’re gooons? One hard foul was going to erase a 15-20 deficit? You’re talking a lot of dumb right now.
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And boom goes the dynamite.
The fact that you think a good program has been better than us in the last decade or so is “dynamite” pretty much says it all.
We’re in better shape than Wisconsin right now.
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There's a mile-wide gap between "lionizing Underwood for merely being competent" and pushing back on idiots saying the guy who turned our program around quickly is 'underachieving' because of one tournament game.
And in an unintended way, you’ve literally summarized the foolishness of PAMan’s discontent. It was literally ONE tournament game. We didn’t even get a chance to compete when we had our first legit team in 10+ years.
Throw out Underwood’s first couple of years (realistically you had to give him time to eight the ship). Our first good year, the tournament is canceled. So PAMan is roasting Underwood (after very successfully turning the program around) based on one (albeit ir pretty rough) loss to a woefully underseeded Loyola team.
I would kind of consider myself the bar. If even I can admit Underwood has done an excellent job, you’d have to be an extreme nutjob not to appreciate what he’s done.
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Unfortunately too many Illinois fans deserved Weber. No one gives a shit who wins B1G Championships. People remember losing to ND, Austin Peay and Michigan, NC, and fucking Loyola in the Tournament.
lol this is such a bad take
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If he can turn in some consistent tournament teams, I will gladly say I was an idiot. In light of what we have seen, I am waiting for some good tourney results before I jump on board.
Yes, losing in the 2nd round as a 1 seed was an epic nut punch. But when is the last time we’ve had Illinois talked about as a national title contender, in back to back years no less? Outside of that one game, it’s damn near a miracle what Undwrwood has done here. We were completely irrelevant when he took over. Not even relevant enough to make fun of outside our own fan base.
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He has turned in consistent tournament teams (three in a row now) and you're calling him Underachiever - so apologies for not really buying that.
Your argument hinges literally on one game. I'll take the multiple year sample size, especially given what this program was like when he got here. It's like you forgot.
Concisely said, and on the nose.
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So, so dumb.
One sure fire way to make sure we never get to the place we both want us to get to is to turn on coaches as soon as they turn our program around.
There have only been three tournaments played since we got Underwood. We missed the first two during the rebuild, and got a one seed before being upset by an underserved team in the third one. We could’ve gone deeper last year for sure but other than that single loss, have the results really been worse than you expected?
For a 1 seed with Ayo? Yes.
Say whatever you want Spark. But it is true. In 2005 I was at the Final Four. I bought a 6-pack of Dirt Cheep branded beer. I joked that I was not going to drink it until Illinois won the NC. Over 16 years later, 5 of the cans got holes, busted when frozen, etc. and there is only a single can left in the beer fridge. Waiting to be consumed. Yet, I may never drink that can of Dirt Cheep beer because Illini fans, and the loser AD, are happy with fucking B1G Championships and just making a 64-team tournament (like fuckling Wisconsin does every year!) If my thirst for a NC and a 17 year old can of Dirt Cheep beer is idiotic to you, so be it. But, when you mock the Bigotry of Low Expectiations line, just remember that you want Illinois to be Wisconsin. I aspire for Illinois to be Duke.
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What’s the message? That we’re gooons? One hard foul was going to erase a 15-20 deficit? You’re talking a lot of dumb right now.
The message is that you cannot elbow our NPOY candidate in the head and expect nothing to happen in return. Instead, Illinois let Purdue walk all over them and then the HC calls the team soft.
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So, so dumb.
One sure fire way to make sure we never get to the place we both want us to get to is to turn on coaches as soon as they turn our program around.
There have only been three tournaments played since we got Underwood. We missed the first two during the rebuild, and got a one seed before being upset by an underserved team in the third one. We could’ve gone deeper last year for sure but other than that single loss, have the results really been worse than you expected?
And with this post, you made the point intentionally. Yes, Loyola was a bad loss and a huge nut punch. A gigantic nut punch, but it was one game. I for one am enjoying national title relevancy two years in a row. That’s rare air for Illinois.
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The fact that you think a good program has been better than us in the last decade or so is “dynamite” pretty much says it all.
We’re in better shape than Wisconsin right now.
You obviously are not as bright as you think you are.
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For a 1 seed with Ayo? Yes.
Say whatever you want Spark. But it is true. In 2005 I was at the Final Four. I bought a 6-pack of Dirt Cheep branded beer. I joked that I was not going to drink it until Illinois won the NC. Over 16 years later, 5 of the cans got holes, busted when frozen, etc. and there is only a single can left in the beer fridge. Waiting to be consumed. Yet, I may never drink that can of Dirt Cheep beer because Illini fans, and the loser AD, are happy with fucking B1G Championships and just making a 64-team tournament (like fuckling Wisconsin does every year!) If my thirst for a NC and a 17 year old can of Dirt Cheep beer is idiotic to you, so be it. But, when you mock the Bigotry of Low Expectiations line, just remember that you want Illinois to be Wisconsin. I aspire for Illinois to be Duke.
I want Illinois to win a national title too. Badly.
They never will if we turn on our coaches as soon as they turn our program around because they haven't won one yet. It's crazy.
And look - I asked if the results were really below your expectations and you defaulted back to the "but the Loyola game" argument. I wasn't asking about that. I was asking if the results of Underwood's tenure here so far were worse than you expected. That includes the rebuilding years and the Loyola game, as well as the year where the tournament got canceled, and this year.
Probably safe to guess, since you completely ducked the question, that the answer is "no".
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You obviously are not as bright as you think you are.
Hahah, look in the mirror man. Your flailing is sad to watch.
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And in an unintended way, you’ve literally summarized the foolishness of PAMan’s discontent. It was literally ONE tournament game. We didn’t even get a chance to compete when we had our first legit team in 10+ years.
Throw out Underwood’s first couple of years (realistically you had to give him time to eight the ship). Our first good year, the tournament is canceled. So PAMan is roasting Underwood (after very successfully turning the program around) based on one (albeit ir pretty rough) loss to a woefully underseeded Loyola team.
I would kind of consider myself the bar. If even I can admit Underwood has done an excellent job, you’d have to be an extreme nutjob not to appreciate what he’s done.
JFC with the "underseeded Loyola." It is like a mantra for you guys. Not going to get far in any tournament if you cannot beat fucking Loyola. You guys have become Merrymen.
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The message is that you cannot elbow our NPOY candidate in the head and expect nothing to happen in return. Instead, Illinois let Purdue walk all over them and then the HC calls the team soft.
I guess I somehow missed that…
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lol this is such a bad take
Keep cheering for B1G Championships and Reno bowling titles. You guys have gone soft.
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JFC with the "underseeded Loyola." It is like a mantra for you guys. Not going to get far in any tournament if you cannot beat fucking Loyola. You guys have become Merrymen.
I‘ve said it many times here. It was a terrible loss. But in the end, one loss. If early exits become the NORM, your incessant crying will carry more water.
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Keep cheering for B1G Championships and Reno bowling titles. You guys have gone soft.
I'd say cheering for B1G championships and high tourney seeds is quite a bit more reasonable than shitting on them.
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when is the last time we’ve had Illinois talked about as a national title contender
All you want to do is talk, talk. Who cares "talking"?
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I for one am enjoying national title relevancy two years in a row.
The sad part is you are serious. When did this place become Scorat Bored? "Relevancy" and then losing to Loyola. How fucking stupid.
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If we’re a 2 seed and out the first weekend this year, I’ll give your boorish rants more credence.
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Is there any doubt that if we make the second weekend or beyond this year - and we're certainly capable - that the narrative will switch to "sure he could do it with a NPOY candidate"?
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The sad part is you are serious. When did this place become Scorat Bored? "Relevancy" and then losing to Loyola. How fucking stupid.
If you didn't have fun last year college basketball might not be for you, unless you decide to become a Duke or Kentucky fan.
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And look - I asked if the results were really below your expectations and you defaulted back to the "but the Loyola game" argument. I wasn't asking about that. I was asking if the results of Underwood's tenure here so far were worse than you expected. That includes the rebuilding years and the Loyola game, as well as the year where the tournament got canceled, and this year.
I will answer the question: Yes, they are below my expectations for the Illinois program.
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PAMan has managed to convince himself the only years that have existed in Illini Basketball are 2001-2006.
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I will answer the question: Yes, they are below my expectations for the Illinois program.
Ridiculous.
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If we’re a 2 seed and out the first weekend this year, I’ll give your boorish rants more credence.
Do whatever you want. Your takes suck at this point.
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JFC with the "underseeded Loyola." It is like a mantra for you guys. Not going to get far in any tournament if you cannot beat fucking Loyola. You guys have become Merrymen.
You off all people should know the lunacy of including me, Tempo34, into the “you guys” category.
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Do whatever you want. Your takes suck at this point.
Pretty bold claim from you there. No one's got worse takes in this thread than you. It's not close, actually.
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Is there any doubt that if we make the second weekend or beyond this year - and we're certainly capable - that the narrative will switch to "sure he could do it with a NPOY candidate"?
No. It should be an anomoly NOT to make the second weekend for Illinois basketball.
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Do whatever you want. Your takes suck at this point.
But, but, but that ONE game!!!
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If you didn't have fun last year college basketball might not be for you, unless you decide to become a Duke or Kentucky fan.
"Tempo," where did I say it was not fun last year? The Loyola game was embarassing though.
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PAMan has managed to convince himself the only years that have existed in Illini Basketball are 2001-2006.
That's untrue. I specifically mentioned the Lou years. You are not going to get away with the stuff you pull with Spark with me, Tempo.
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Ridiculous.
Keep aspiring for Illinois to be like Wisconsin, Spark.
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You off all people should know the lunacy of including me, Tempo34, into the “you guys” category.
You fit right in. You may have well as moved to East Central Illinois when you moved to Itasca.
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Pretty bold claim from you there. No one's got worse takes in this thread than you. It's not close, actually.
Of course the merrymen who are just happy just being invited to the 64-team Tournament think that.
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"Tempo," where did I say it was not fun last year? The Loyola game was embarassing though.
Agreed. It was HORRIBLE. But all things considered, Underwood is doing a bang up job here. He’s literally resurrected this program from the dead. I had actually given up hope of ever being in the conversation for 1 seeds. That’s how bad it was.
I’d go as fas to say that the Loyola loss was the worst in Illini history. But overall, Underwood’s results have been excellent the last three years, and his recruiting is good if not stellar. I’m willing to let this play out before getting all over the top dramatic.
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But, but, but that ONE game!!!
It was Austin-Peay-level bad. Completely wasted Ayo's last year. But Illinois is better off without him....
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Hell, I’d given up hope for NCAA berths for that matter. Never in my lifetime did I think the Illini program would sink as low as it did in the 2010s.
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No. It should be an anomoly NOT to make the second weekend for Illinois basketball.
When has that ever been true?
We did it 0 times in the 2010s, 4 times in the 2000s, 0 times in the 1990s, 4 times in the 1980s.
That has literally never, ever been the case for Illinois basketball.
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That's untrue. I specifically mentioned the Lou years. You are not going to get away with the stuff you pull with Spark with me, Tempo.
Lou Henson made the second weekend of the NCAA tournament 4 times in 21 seasons. He also lost in the first round to a lower seeded teams 4 times.
We put his name on the court.
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It was Austin-Peay-level bad. Completely wasted Ayo's last year. But Illinois is better off without him....
And a year later, without him, there are still experts saying this team is a national title contender. That’s a great thing.
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Agreed. It was HORRIBLE. But all things considered, Underwood is doing a bang up job here. He’s literally resurrected this program from the dead. I had actually given up hope of ever being in the conversation for 1 seeds. That’s how bad it was.
I’d go as fas to say that the Loyola loss was the worst in Illini history. But overall, Underwood’s results have been excellent the last three years, and his recruiting is good if not stellar. I’m willing to let this play out before getting all over the top dramatic.
I am cool with this take. I'm glad to have resurrected the old "Tempo34...."
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Lou Henson made the second weekend of the NCAA tournament 4 times in 21 seasons.
There was plenty of kvetching about Lou's tourney coaching back in the day as well.
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I’m the same guy I’ve always been. Calling balls and strikes as they’re pitched.
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And a year later, without him, there are still experts saying this team is a national title contender. That’s a great thing.
Who are these experts and how many The Twitter followers do they have?
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I’m the same guy I’ve always been. Calling balls and strikes as they’re pitched.
You are supposed to wait until the ball crosses the plate....
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There was plenty of kvetching about Lou's tourney coaching back in the day as well.
Why'd you mention the Lou years then?
Basically what it comes down to is: your standard for what a regular Illinois season should look like is better than we've pretty much ever been. We have never been a program where not making the second weekend is an anomaly, ever.
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There was plenty of kvetching about Lou's tourney coaching back in the day as well.
I honestly borderline hated Lou when he was here. It wasn’t until he was gone that I appreciated what he did. Having said that, pre-2010 that was the expectation. Anything worse than 4/5 seeds and 2nd weekend was a disappointment.
I’ll wait if and until Underwood wets the bed again in the tourney to bemoan the results.
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Why'd you mention the Lou years then?
Basically what it comes down to is: your standard for what a regular Illinois season should look like is better than we've pretty much ever been.
I said I remembered them. Making the tourney should be a given. Getting to the second weekend should be standard. Losing to Austin-Peay and Loyola should be anomolies.
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I honestly borderline hated Lou when he was here. It wasn’t until he was gone that I appreciated what he did. Having said that, pre-2010 that was the expectation. Anything worse than 4/5 seeds and 2nd weekend was a disappointment.
I’ll wait if and until Underwood wets the bed again in the tourney to bemoan the results.
But again we have never consistently made the second weekend except the three years Self was here, when he did it twice.
The guy our court is named after didn't achieve it.
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I honestly borderline hated Lou when he was here. It wasn’t until he was gone that I appreciated what he did. Having said that, pre-2010 that was the expectation. Anything worse than 4/5 seeds and 2nd weekend was a disappointment.
I’ll wait if and until Underwood wets the bed again in the tourney to bemoan the results.
Well, just when it looks like we are getting somewhere I need to go. Nice chatting with you fellas.
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Why'd you mention the Lou years then?
Basically what it comes down to is: your standard for what a regular Illinois season should look like is better than we've pretty much ever been. We have never been a program where not making the second weekend is an anomaly, ever.
2005-2006 I’d have agreed with that take. Just winning a game in the NCAAs wasn’t enough. We’ve only been back near the mountain-top for one year. I’m gonna tap the brakes on where “I think” we should be at this moment.
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Lou Henson made the second weekend of the NCAA tournament 4 times in 21 seasons. He also lost in the first round to a lower seeded teams 4 times.
We put his name on the court.
He's the guy who resurrected the program. Illinois should have buiit on what he did. Illinois was close to doing that...until Weber fucked everything up.
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But again we have never consistently made the second weekend except the three years Self was here, when he did it twice.
The guy our court is named after didn't achieve it.
I understand that. But from 2001-2006 we’d reached new heights, and were on the verge of becoming elite, or so we thought. It would have happened had Self stayed. Unfortunately, we all know what happened there.
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He's the guy who resurrected the program. Illinois should have buiit on what he did. Illinois was close to doing that...until Weber fucked everything up.
Why would it matter that Lou 'resurrected the program', but not Underwood?
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Who are these experts and how many The Twitter followers do they have?
https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball-men/article/2022-02-08/mens-college-basketball-rankings-top-10-mens-basketball-national-title?amp
I know you posted this tongue in cheek, but I’ll answer anyway. Andy Katz, almost a half-million.
Having a top college analyst list us #2 in title contenders the year after losing Ayo is a huge step up from our recent past.
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Why'd you mention the Lou years then?
Basically what it comes down to is: your standard for what a regular Illinois season should look like is better than we've pretty much ever been. We have never been a program where not making the second weekend is an anomaly, ever.
Not taking sides in this.
Underwood has done some good things.
I am not a huge fan but do give him credit.
He is a decent P5 coach. A solid B- or C+ guy.
The quote above is important. We have not ever been a consistent BB powerhouse except in our own mind.
We were getting in the conversation a little bit with Lou and Self, but really we have been just historically a pretty good program.
There are no regular S16s or several EEs and FFs in last 40 years.
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What I am worried about is just how much bad the Big Ten is at masking what our true identity is. Illinois has done little to nothing outside of our own conference. All of our impressive feats are being heralded by what we do in Conference play. A conference of which is unquestionably down and has been for a few seasons.
Most of the things I like about Underwood take place on the defensive end of the floor. He has been as good or better than anyone we have had in the past in that department, but the offense is scary. We run absolutely nothing outside of pick and roll and three man weave. Its either throw it in to Kofi or dribble dribble shoot a contested three.
And with a team that has a small amount of room for error that is not a good recipe for success in post season play.
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I thought Underwood’s post game press conference was too happy and too much of “we’re still good,we just had an off night. We’re still best ball screen defense in the league. Even NBA plays great defense and guys make shots”
Too many excuses. You get blown out with no answers don’t just say “we’re still good” that’s loser talk
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Sorry to be a negative Nancy, but I just don't see us making a deep run in the tourney. We can't win the big games (purdue and Arizona). I am really getting sick of these long scoring droughts in games. It's frustrating. Is it too much to ask to play 40 minutes of basketball?
Agree. People thinking this team was better than last year are delusional.
And scoring droughts will happen if Kofi is neutralized bc we don’t run anything that gets us easy shots or drives to the basket. We are an iso Jump Shooting team. Miller/Ayo could drive to the basket last year or get to the line. Grandison, Plummer, Trent, Damonte are all just spot up 3 pt shooters
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Lol the Big Ten has been “down for a few years?” WTF games are you watching. When is the last time we’ve seen programs like Iowa and Purdue in the top 5? Michigan has been really good. MSU is always tough. Ohio State and Wisconsin are always solid. We haven’t lost an ACC/Big Ten challenge in 5 years. WTF are you talking about?
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The good news is unless we fall to an 8/9 seed we won't see Arizona or Purdue types until the S16 or later, and we've played pretty well against other likely tournament teams in Iowa, Indiana, MSU, and Wisconsin.
Iowa and Indiana are both trash.
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Your comments on offense I don’t disagree with. There’s no scripted easy baskets. It’s just toss it in to Kofi or lob up a 3, or Belo does what Belo does. There’s not much rhythm to our offense.
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Iowa and Indiana are both trash.
News flash: most teams outside the top 25 are “trash.”
Yet 64 teams make the tourney.
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You deserve Weber.
You deserve a lifetime of John Groce. Or Lovie Smith. That’s what you deserve.
Your history of being a coach apologist is long here.
And facts are Bruce Weber took K State further in the NCAA tourney than Underwood likely ever will.
Chew on those apples
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If Underwood is here any length of time, I’d probably take that bet.
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You deserve a lifetime of John Groce. Or Lovie Smith. That’s what you deserve.
Your history of being a coach apologist is long here.
And facts are Bruce Weber took K State further in the NCAA tourney than Underwood likely ever will.
Chew on those apples
Perfect Truthian post here.
Facts are <speculation>.
You deserve to be in prison for stalking and creeping on teenaged girls, but here you are.
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The timing of the 1966 slush fund scandal did irreversible damage on top of the self inflicted intetnal damage before and after. Boomers were coming of age, basketball was increasing in popularity, and we had a loaded roster.
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The timing of the 1966 slush fund scandal did irreversible damage on top of the self inflicted intetnal damage before and after. Boomers were coming of age, basketball was increasing in popularity, and we had a loaded roster.
Classic Nichi.
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If anyone wonders why I don’t come here, look no further.
This place has become a group of nominal adults egging eachother on to act like middle school kids high fiving each other when they call someone a fag. It’s gross as hell.
Sure Karen.
I do hope DeSantis gets elected in 2024 and all you liberal censoring crybabies can go back into your closets, bubbles, emotional safe spaces.
Imagine getting offended on a sports board.
A joke. I don’t agree with Custard Fart on his sports takes but him just allowing anyone to post whatever they want is a welcome and refreshing change from the world you want to create spark.
Looks like you are outnumbered here spark. This place is about freedom.
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Sure Karen.
I do hope DeSantis gets elected in 2024 and all you liberal censoring crybabies can go back into your closets, bubbles, emotional safe spaces.
Imagine getting offended on a sports board.
A joke. I don’t agree with Custard Fart on his sports takes but him just allowing anyone to post whatever they want is a welcome and refreshing change from the world you want to create spark.
Looks like you are outnumbered here spark. This place is about freedom.
Well obviously - the freedom to be a dipshit. Which is why unlike every other Illini board, you’re allowed here.
Congrats to the others for being on Truth’s team. Seems fitting to be honest.
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There is a lot going on here. I will say only this:
Let's enjoy the ride here, and see what happens. And, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong. I hope we all want the same thing.
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< Miller/Ayo could drive to the basket last year or get to the line. Grandison, Plummer, Trent, Damonte are all just spot up 3 pt shooters
wtf are you talking about?
Plummer and Trent are both better at driving to the hoop than Miller.
A healthy Curbelo is better at it than any of them.
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There is a lot going on here. I will say only this:
Let's enjoy the ride here, and see what happens. And, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter who is right or wrong. I hope we all want the same thing.
Oh, I got a hunch you'll say more.
But I agree with what you said.
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Everything is fine. Goodnight.
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The timing of the 1966 slush fund scandal did irreversible damage on top of the self inflicted intetnal damage before and after. Boomers were coming of age, basketball was increasing in popularity, and we had a loaded roster.
It's easy to forget how horrible that was. Everyone was so looking forward to taking on UCLA. I actually had Harry Combes for bball instructor at MOG shortly thereafter. He was all about the D.
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Yeah, can’t say I recall Miller driving to the basket. Pretty much ever.
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I actually had Harry Combes for bball instructor at MOG shortly thereafter. He was all about the D.
Which at the time was very controversial.
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The timing of the 1966 slush fund scandal did irreversible damage on top of the self inflicted intetnal damage before and after. Boomers were coming of age, basketball was increasing in popularity, and we had a loaded roster.
Honestly with NIL I really don’t think Illinois has much of a chance going forward.
SEC schools and high profile blue bloods will pay more than Illinois.
Illinois best chance was to cheat under the table to help level the field vs the blue bloods. Can’t do that anymore since it’s open season
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Well obviously - the freedom to be a dipshit. Which is why unlike every other Illini board, you’re allowed here.
Congrats to the others for being on Truth’s team. Seems fitting to be honest.
Everyone here is free to be a racist, sexist dbag. They’re not free from being called out on it.
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Yeah, can’t say I recall Miller driving to the basket. Pretty much ever.
He certainly wasn’t as good as Ayo at driving but he did on occasion drive into the lane and with his big body could get a shot up,
Now he did mostly just shoot 3s like the other guys but he was at least capable of responsibly driving.
With Plummer if he puts it on the floor it’s to step back 3. Seems to always get blocked at the rim.
Damonte gives you nothing off the dribble
Grandison/Hawkins can’t dribble
Frazier dribbles to shoot a jumper.
Really only Curbelo can dribble close to the basket and finish
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Sure Karen.
I do hope DeSantis gets elected in 2024 and all you liberal censoring crybabies can go back into your closets, bubbles, emotional safe spaces.
Imagine getting offended on a sports board.
A joke. I don’t agree with Custard Fart on his sports takes but him just allowing anyone to post whatever they want is a welcome and refreshing change from the world you want to create spark.
Looks like you are outnumbered here spark. This place is about freedom.
Lol, this place is what it is. Anyone can show up and say whatever they want. Which is awesome. I will say I feel like it would be a better place if you weren't in it, because I'm sure you are a piece of shit, but it's not my call. I feel like pedophiles don't deserve a place here. But again, that's not my call.
No matter. I don't participate a lot here because of certain factors. Certain posters on here made it clear how they felt about me, and I, for the most part, left. So, have at it! Hell, Spark hates me, and we all know that Tempo hates me too. And that's fine. I give no fucks about any of that.
This place is about freedom, according to you. So, have at it.
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“Hate” is a strong word. Especially when applied to someone I’ve never met. If I hate anyone it’s Robb. But even then, I don’t know that I’d use that word.
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Oh, I got a hunch you'll say more.
But I agree with what you said.
I have said what I said.
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Classic Nichi.
Classic truth.
Lou Henson and Tony Yates started turning things around in baketball, but Neale Stoner deserves some credit for the success during the 80s. He got screwed over. Self inflicted damage.
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Classic truth.
Lou Henson and Tony Yates started turning things around in baketball, but Neale Stoner deserves some credit for the success during the 80s. He got screwed over. Self inflicted damage.
Just pointing out you would be the one to point out something that occurred before I was born. And I’m not young anymore.
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Lol, this place is what it is. Anyone can show up and say whatever they want. Which is awesome. I will say I feel like it would be a better place if you weren't in it, because I'm sure you are a piece of shit, but it's not my call. I feel like pedophiles don't deserve a place here. But again, that's not my call.
No matter. I don't participate a lot here because of certain factors. Certain posters on here made it clear how they felt about me, and I, for the most part, left. So, have at it! Hell, Spark hates me, and we all know that Tempo hates me too. And that's fine. I give no fucks about any of that.
This place is about freedom, according to you. So, have at it.
I don’t hate you, just not interested in the middle school shit where you try to be edgy by calling somebody a retard.
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!!!!!!t
If we’re a 2 seed and out the first weekend this year, I’ll give your boorish rants more credence.
Will be a 4/5 with the same result.
And honestly people are down on Underwood bc the team was garbage before Kofi and looks like garbage after him.
I feel like Underwood is going to be either Gene Keady (which would underwhelm most Illini fans) or be Frank Martin at South Carolina.
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“Hate” is a strong word. Especially when applied to someone I’ve never met. If I hate anyone it’s Robb. But even then, I don’t know that I’d use that word.
Nah, I feel like you hate me. And that's fine. I really don't care. I'm sure Spark hates me too. Fine.
Basically, what I'm saying is I have no control over anyone's feelings. Hate me or like me, or do whatever the fuck you want. I would like to think I've made amends to people on here to the point where people don't have serious problems with me. If I'm mistaken, please let me know. I would rather not be disliked, but again, I can't control anybody's feelings.
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“Hate” is a strong word. Especially when applied to someone I’ve never met. If I hate anyone it’s Robb. But even then, I don’t know that I’d use that word.
I hate Spark just because he’s so inauthentic and condescending. He doesn’t belong on a sports board.
The rest of the posters here are fine.
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I don’t hate you, just not interested in the middle school shit where you try to be edgy by calling somebody a retard.
That's totally fair. I shouldn't have done that.
Fair enough?
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Holy crap. I leave to do some work and this place turns into a group therapy session with a Nichi history lesson on the side. And who had the time to give Truth OG, not the faux Truth, 65,535 smites?
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I hate Spark just because he’s so inauthentic and condescending. He doesn’t belong on a sports board.
The rest of the posters here are fine.
I'm gonna go ahead and disagree. Spark absolutely belongs here. Everybody belongs here.
You don't get to decide who is "fine" and who isn't. So, maybe dial it down. Or go fuck another teenage tennis player.
Either way, I don't care.
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Holy crap. I leave to do some work and this place turns into a group therapy session with a Nichi history lesson on the side. And who had the time to give Truth OG, not the faux Truth, 65,535 smites?
Yeah, that seems like a lot.
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Oh, and of course instant karma just hit for me being a message board jackass, as ThePassiveWoman's phone just went blank, but you can hear all the sounds of emails and texts and calls. So now she wants me to drop everything and go buy everyone new phones. Mine still works fine, despite being over 5 years old (and being completely paid off), but that is not going to work with her like it does with the kids (Maybe actually use your Otter Box phone cover next time, doofus?). Those reduced cell phone bills were really nice while they lasted.
Maybe I will go to 7-11 and buy their lousy phone packages for them....
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Oh, and of course instant karma just hit for me being a message board jackass, as ThePassiveWoman's phone just went blank, but you can hear all the sounds of emails and texts and calls. So now she wants me to drop everything and go buy everyone new phones. Mine still works fine, despite being over 5 years old (and being completely paid off), but that is not going to work with her like it does with the kids (Maybe actually use your Otter Box phone cover next time, doofus?). Those reduced cell phone bills were really nice while they lasted.
Maybe I will go to 7-11 and buy their lousy phone packages for them....
Their crisis is your crisis. Solve that shit, I guess. Your thousands spent on phones is our thousands worth of lol.
Sorry, big guy.
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Your thousands spent on phones is our thousands worth of lol.
Glad to make someone feel good today....
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Those reduced cell phone bills were really nice while they lasted.
You can get some great Androids on Amazon for under $200 apiece.
As for your monthlies, I finally bought a service after holding out for 25 years. I always said I'd wait 'til the price dropped under $10/month. I now get a gig of data for $6/month. They throw in a number and texts, as well.
I got Mint for Heather. $15 gets 4GB/month plus unlimited calls and texts.
If you're a family of four, I can't believe there isn't something for $100 or less that would give you more than enough, although you'd probably need to scold your children for streaming 4K movies while sleeping.
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If you're a family of four, I can't believe there isn't something for $100 or less that would give you more than enough, although you'd probably need to scold your children for streaming 4K movies while sleeping.
I'm laughing because this is all so true.
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I think I am off to T-Mobile. They usually have a deal where you get access to the MLB package (if there are ever any games this year), so that is one perk I would actually use (if there are ever any games this year).
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That's totally fair. I shouldn't have done that.
Fair enough?
Yep.
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I hate Spark just because he’s so inauthentic and condescending. He doesn’t belong on a sports board.
The rest of the posters here are fine.
It’s hard to imagine there’s a person on Earth who cares what you think of them.
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It’s hard to imagine there’s a person on Earth who cares what you think of them.
My favorite part was the word "inauthentic"
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T Mobile. $99/each special just started on Pixel 6 phones. Wow. Saving $40/month on the data call text shit.
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I thought Underwood’s post game press conference was too happy and too much of “we’re still good,we just had an off night. We’re still best ball screen defense in the league. Even NBA plays great defense and guys make shots”
Too many excuses. You get blown out with no answers don’t just say “we’re still good” that’s loser talk
The fuck you want him to do exactly? Run around the room shouting "The sky is falling, we're totally fucked" like a goddamn lunatic?
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I hate Spark just because he’s so inauthentic and condescending. He doesn’t belong on a sports board.
The rest of the posters here are fine.
Ironically, I found this response to be condescending... :-\ ???
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Not sure they were supposed to win by that much...especially after being down by 2 at half.
Point spread only matters to Vegas 1-19 still a loss to the team that was supposed to win.
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We're in first.
If it's unwatchable don't watch it.
How quick we forget what unwatchable basketball actually looks like.
I have no qualms saying anyone complaining presently about us being unwatchable or the coach underachieving should be sentenced to another decade of Weberball.
Oh look the drunk one speaks…
I tell ya what Sparky…I’ll turn all the games off at halftime since we don’t bother to show up after that and Underachiever just stands there looking stupid like you…
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Here’s the bottom line with this team and why so many people are aggravated with it…
They sold us a corvette and gave us an economy car that will cross the finish line and nothing more…
More disturbing are the losses…In most of those were well ahead until the 2nd half or someone does something boneheaded and then Underachiever stands there clueless…
PAman is correct…Just because the team has been better the last 3 years and making the tourney is setting the bar low for a group that should’ve been top 10 last 2 years until getting Moser’d and Curbelo’d…
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Oh look the drunk one speaks…
Get your memes straight, nøøb.
Tempo's the drunk one. I mean, we all are, but Tempo's the one we make fun of.
Jesus.
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Jesus H. Christ. This place is fcking nuts tonight.
Is there a full moon or something??
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There are only so many ways to laud Steve Pikiell.
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Get your memes straight, nøøb.
Tempo's the drunk one. I mean, we all are, but Tempo's the one we make fun of.
Jesus.
Guess you didn’t have much to report on after last night…
When you get a chance ask Underachiever why he can’t coach in the 2nd half of games or coach period for that matter…
He gets recruits that’s about the end of his usefulness…
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Jesus H. Christ. This place is fcking nuts tonight.
Is there a full moon or something??
It is cheap entertainment.
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Oh look the drunk one speaks…
I tell ya what Sparky…I’ll turn all the games off at halftime since we don’t bother to show up after that and Underachiever just stands there looking stupid like you…
Good.
Hope you turned off the game at assembly hall at halftime too. You don’t deserve that performance.
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Jesus H. Christ. This place is fcking nuts tonight.
Is there a full moon or something??
This place is toxic almost always.
Just look at the clientele. Truth, a dude who’s so pathetic he’s trying to emulate Truth, IllLove, whatever PAMan turned into, judge Judy, a dude who’s biggest moment was faking his own death.
It’s a nightmare.
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This place is toxic almost always.
Just look at the clientele. Truth, a dude who’s so pathetic he’s trying to emulate Truth, IllLove, whatever PAMan turned into, judge Judy, a dude who’s biggest moment was faking his own death.
It’s a nightmare.
Clearly you aren’t adding anything of substance or entertainment. You’re just a perpetually offended nagging bore of a poster. Throw in a non-stop Illini homer view, with a condescending delivery. Thoroughly uninteresting.
You bring 0 entertainment value, 0 informational value, and 0 analytical value.
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Then again I’ve never stalked a teenaged tennis player, so I’m pretty comfortable with you thinking those things about me.
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Get your memes straight, nøøb.
Tempo's the drunk one. I mean, we all are, but Tempo's the one we make fun of.
Jesus.
What’s funny is I bet Robb’s been drunk more in the last two weeks than I have in the last year.
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This place is toxic almost always.
Just look at the clientele. Truth, a dude who’s so pathetic he’s trying to emulate Truth, IllLove, whatever PAMan turned into, judge Judy, a dude who’s biggest moment was faking his own death.
It’s a nightmare.
And Robb.
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This place is toxic almost always.
Just look at the clientele. Truth, a dude who’s so pathetic he’s trying to emulate Truth, IllLove, whatever PAMan turned into, judge Judy, a dude who’s biggest moment was faking his own death.
It’s a nightmare.
I chuckled. And amused I didn’t make the list.
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What’s funny is I bet Robb’s been drunk more in the last two weeks than I have in the last year.
You poor bastard.
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You poor bastard.
Tell me about it…it’s depressing.
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I like Spark.
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There are only so many ways to laud Steve Pikiell.
He gets them to play.
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JFC with the "underseeded Loyola." It is like a mantra for you guys. Not going to get far in any tournament if you cannot beat fucking Loyola. You guys have become Merrymen.
Has nothing to do with last year, but Loyola lost to freaking Bradley last night. I don't think we'll have to worry about Loyola this year in the tourney, unless they win the Valley tournament.
It'll be a different, woefully under-seeded mid-major.
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Has nothing to do with last year, but Loyola lost to freaking Bradley last night. I don't think we'll have to worry about Loyola this year in the tourney, unless they win the Valley tournament.
It'll be a different, woefully under-seeded mid-major.
We draw Iona in a 3/14 game.
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I knew this team wasn’t special but still surprised they didn’t show up for 2H at Mackey
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Listening to Brad sounds like he agrees with PAMan that we need to give some hard fouls
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Well, MSU is coming off a loss so Izzo will have them in full thug mode.
It could be a brawl.
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Listening to Brad sounds like he agrees with PAMan that we need to give some hard fouls
Control Brown, limit Hall 2nd chance rebounds and we win....the rest of the team is garbage. Oh yea let Kofi get some elbows into skinny ass Bingham also.