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Title: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2022, 01:58:49 PM
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WTF if they hire Fitzgerald I will be pissed. I like the odds on Daboll. Pederson odds good, too.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2022, 06:58:54 PM
Day after Pace and Nagy get fired and no one wants to talk about da Bear?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 11, 2022, 07:53:56 PM
Day after Pace and Nagy get fired and no one wants to talk about da Bear?

It is going to be another disaster based on the odds posted.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 11, 2022, 07:59:21 PM
Pace and Nagy might be gone but is anything really going to change with Sweaty Teddy still employed and the McCaskeys running the show?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2022, 08:23:09 PM
Pace and Nagy might be gone but is anything really going to change with Sweaty Teddy still employed and the McCaskeys running the show?

Would be silly to make promises, but it’s always possible to get lucky. You’d think at some point they’d finally get something right. I think there is some talent at the GM position. Rick Smith or Rick Spielman would be highly competent hires.

Rick Smith, Harbaugh, Fangio back as DC would be a grand slam. Not expecting that to happen, but I could see getting 2 of the 3. I’d like to see them inquire about Colbert from Pittsburgh. He’s stepping down but not entirely clear if he’s looking to retire or just wants a change of scenery.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2022, 08:26:39 PM
As far as offensive coaches, not much excites me greatly. But it would be nice to get an offensive coach to pair with Fields. But I’ll take a defensive coach if he’s the best candidate and can bring in good assistants.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2022, 08:29:14 PM
Flores is certainly intriguing, but has some red flags. Don’t mind that he’s apparently not the easiest to get along with organizationally; but more concerned with his having 3 OCs in 3 years and apparently didn’t have a good relationship with Tua. He also wants a lot of control for a guy who hasn’t accomplished that much yet.

Props to him apparently being the only one in the building who wanted to draft Herbert over Tua, though.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 11, 2022, 09:32:21 PM
Don’t get sucked in Tempo, just pick a better franchise to cheer for and enjoy it.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 11, 2022, 10:28:20 PM
If it wasn’t for Justin Fields I might have. I like the kid, and hope he’s the answer.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 12, 2022, 07:20:50 AM
Flores. Why not?  Bears Belichick!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 12, 2022, 08:46:25 AM
Who will emerge as Tempo’s under-qualified black guy du jour?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 08:50:08 AM
Custard forgot to take his hoodie off after last nights’ klan rally.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 08:54:48 AM
Flores. Why not?  Bears Belichick!

Would be leery of giving that much control to a guy who has never been to the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 09:14:15 AM
Who will emerge as Tempo’s under-qualified black guy du jour?

But speaking of black guys; I like Rick Smith, Todd Bowles, and am intrigued by Brian Flores. Can’t say I’d call them under-qualified, though.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 12, 2022, 12:38:23 PM
https://twitter.com/bn_bears/status/1481097707318124549?s=21

Link to who’s been interviewed for Bears HC
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 12:50:43 PM
https://twitter.com/bn_bears/status/1481097707318124549?s=21

Link to who’s been interviewed for Bears HC

I think that’s the list of requests, not completed interviews.

I really hope they aren’t stupid enough to hire a coach before a GM.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 12, 2022, 01:22:03 PM
I think that’s the list of requests, not completed interviews.

I really hope they aren’t stupid enough to hire a coach before a GM.

Yeah that would be a terrible idea. Yes it’s a list of requests and some scheduled interviews
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 02:05:41 PM
About the only exception (of semi-realistic candidates) to that rule would be Harbaugh.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 12, 2022, 03:50:49 PM
Would be leery of giving that much control to a guy who has never been to the playoffs.

So what? Looks like he did a decent job in Miami and told Tua that he sucks, which he does. Also wanted Herbert over Tua and was overuled.

If he is an ass to the people upstairs, so what? It is not like the Bear has any competent people working upstairs anyway. 
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 04:26:28 PM
“Decent job” with no playoff appearances ever, doesn’t really justify total control over the franchise.

Don’t really care about his personality with ownership. I wouldn’t count that as a negative or a positive. Certainly not a big enough positive to give him complete control.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 04:27:06 PM
All of a sudden post season results don’t matter to PAMan. Interesting.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 04:29:43 PM
Three OCs in three years is a red flag.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 12, 2022, 05:09:15 PM
All of a sudden post season results don’t matter to PAMan. Interesting.

Post-season results matter, but not every good coach is going to come from a winning program (see Belichick). Not sure that you can completely blame this guy for being stuck with a QB that sucks, whom he reportedly told sucks and needs to be better, when he wanted someone else who ended up being good.

He is undefeated against Belichick, I believe.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 07:34:59 PM
Post-season results matter, but not every good coach is going to come from a winning program (see Belichick). Not sure that you can completely blame this guy for being stuck with a QB that sucks, whom he reportedly told sucks and needs to be better, when he wanted someone else who ended up being good.

He is undefeated against Belichick, I believe.

He’s 4-2 against Belichick. But I don’t understand why you’d call Underwood a failure for a loss in a single elimination tournament, yet willing to cede total control to a coach who’s never made the playoffs. I’m not saying he’s not a good coach, he likely is, but this is kind of like going all in on Trubisky and Nagy. You’d better get it 100% right (trusting a still somewhat unproven coach), or it could blow up spectacularly.

I’d probably be good with Flores if you hire a Rick Smith first, and he hires Flores. But I’m not letting a largely unproven coach pick his GM. I’m willing to be wrong if indeed he’s all he’s cracked up to be and more.

Also, does 3 OCs in 3 years (actually 4 because they had dual OCs this year) not concern you?

My first question for Flores is “who is going to be your offensive coordinator?” I’m not sure he has an impressive answer for that question.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 12, 2022, 10:58:26 PM
He’s 4-2 against Belichick. But I don’t understand why you’d call Underwood a failure for a loss in a single elimination tournament, yet willing to cede total control to a coach who’s never made the playoffs. I’m not saying he’s not a good coach, he likely is, but this is kind of like going all in on Trubisky and Nagy. You’d better get it 100% right (trusting a still somewhat unproven coach), or it could blow up spectacularly.

I’d probably be good with Flores if you hire a Rick Smith first, and he hires Flores. But I’m not letting a largely unproven coach pick his GM. I’m willing to be wrong if indeed he’s all he’s cracked up to be and more.

Also, does 3 OCs in 3 years (actually 4 because they had dual OCs this year) not concern you?

My first question for Flores is “who is going to be your offensive coordinator?” I’m not sure he has an impressive answer for that question.

I don't see how the comparison is apt. Underwood is the GM. Flores was not. Flores was AOTC on Tua and Herbert. (Meanwhile Nagy promised he could fix Trubisky, when most people with eyes knew he sucked.)

Did he go through OCs because he was trying to find someone who could improve a broken Tua? I don't know.

Guy appears to have a strong personality and isn't a kiss ass. One would think they could use that at Halas Hall.

Who wouldn't rather have a guy like Tomlin or Pete Caroll?  But neither appear to he going anywhere.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 12, 2022, 11:00:05 PM
I’m not against hiring Flores, but it wouldn’t hire him and let him pick his GM. If we hire a Rick Smith and he hired Flores, fine. It still concerns me he’s used 4 OCs in 3 years.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 13, 2022, 10:59:15 AM
Warming up to the idea of Byron Leftwich. Offensive coach who brings credibility to the the head coaching position. Vertical passing game, not the conservative WCO we got from Nagy. Vertical passing game suits Fields’ strengths better. Plus, he’s black.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 13, 2022, 11:14:58 AM
Rick Smith, Byron Leftwich, Vic Fangio and let’s call it a day.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ridingthegrange on January 13, 2022, 01:24:21 PM
Just don't let Vic near a clock or a challenge flag and make him keep hands in pockets to prevent inadvertent timeouts.   
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 13, 2022, 06:02:54 PM
I’m going to assume Harbaugh isn’t coming, therefore my current favorite is Leftwich. After that, Mike Locksley (so I can fill my unqualified black guy quota).
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 13, 2022, 09:44:43 PM
Hot GM names associated with the Bears Omar Khan, Rick Smith, and Ed Dodds. Dodds would probably be solid; but personally I’m liking the first two the most at this point.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 14, 2022, 08:55:52 AM
I’m going to assume Harbaugh isn’t coming, therefore my current favorite is Leftwich. After that, Mike Locksley (so I can fill my unqualified black guy quota).

That's funny, Tempo. Well done.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 14, 2022, 10:06:05 AM
That's funny, Tempo. Well done.

I was more proud of my “Plus, he’s black” comment on Leftwich.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 16, 2022, 10:09:01 PM
Well this is good news at least…

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1482880236647768065?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 16, 2022, 10:17:12 PM
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Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 17, 2022, 10:27:57 AM
Well this is good news at least…

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1482880236647768065?s=21

Thank God. The list of (realistic) head coaches I’d hire before the GM starts and ends with Jim Harbaugh.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 10:49:14 AM
Thank God. The list of (realistic) head coaches I’d hire before the GM starts and ends with Jim Harbaugh.

Agreed
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 17, 2022, 04:08:19 PM
I’ll take this too…

https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1483192384930426888?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 17, 2022, 09:59:01 PM
I’ll take this too…

https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1483192384930426888?s=21

Feels a bit too close to Pace/Nagy to me. This wouldn’t excite me a ton.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 17, 2022, 09:59:59 PM
This would anger a lot of Bears fans.

https://sports.yahoo.com/amphtml/report-jim-harbaugh-intrigued-giants-115538555.html
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 17, 2022, 10:35:36 PM
I am not excited by the thought of Jim Harbaugh being the Bear coach or coach/GM.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 11:31:15 AM
I am not excited by the thought of Jim Harbaugh being the Bear coach or coach/GM.

Why?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 18, 2022, 12:01:58 PM
Why?

because he's an asshole?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 18, 2022, 01:59:19 PM
because he's an asshole?

He's underwhelming. Granted, he had a decent run in SF there. Not sure you want him running thr roster and that is what he's going to want.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 02:24:41 PM
because he's an asshole?

I am the king of “because he’s an asshole.” And I don’t find him too objectionable. I’m willing to put up with slightly douchey if he can get the Bears back to perennial playoff status.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 02:27:24 PM
He's underwhelming. Granted, he had a decent run in SF there. Not sure you want him running thr roster and that is what he's going to want.

He’s a proven winner at several different stops. I think he knows how to set up a winning culture. I have no problem letting him select the GM as long as Harbaugh isn’t the de-facto GM. Flores would want the same level of control. I’m not giving that kind of control to a guy who has never been to the playoffs.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 18, 2022, 03:31:58 PM
I'll give it to a guy who was AOTC on Herbert.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 04:30:27 PM
I'll give it to a guy who was AOTC on Herbert.

You don’t even know that to be true. That’s just dumb.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 18, 2022, 05:42:59 PM
You don’t even know that to be true. That’s just dumb.

Not as dumb as trusting a guy who is considering leaving MI because he was on the road to getting shitcanned for underachieving.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 08:22:41 PM
Not as dumb as trusting a guy who is considering leaving MI because he was on the road to getting shitcanned for underachieving.

Are you questioning Harbaugh’s credentials?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 08:24:09 PM
I'll give it to a guy who was AOTC on Herbert.

They literally were taken one pick apart. It was virtually a coin flip. I’m sure there were other scouts and coaches who fail to make the playoffs who liked Herbert better as well? Ready to give them complete control of the Bears?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 08:28:22 PM
Harbaugh was 44-19-1 with 5 playoff wins and a Super Bowl appearance in 4 years in the NFL. His résumé is light years ahead of Flores’. I’m not saying Flores isn’t a good coach, but he’s never been to the playoffs and has several red flags. He’s not a guy I’m giving complete control of a NFL franchise to.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 08:29:55 PM
Harbaugh’s 1st year they went 13-3. The Niners were 6-10 the previous season.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 18, 2022, 09:10:44 PM
Harbaugh, if paired with a legit GM, is probably the one potentially attainable coach who could actually pique my interest. However he just bought himself some more time at his alma mater and his main competition in tOSU and Penn State seem to be slipping. But he really doesn’t seem to be on a trajectory to compete with the Georgias and Bamas of the world any time soon either.

Despite the history and lore and personal connection with Harbaugh, Chicago is a coaching graveyard with terrible ownership.  But it would be a fresh start with a lot of leeway most likely to rebuild the roster and leave his mark on the franchise.

Some retread is going to generate zero excitement and I’m not sure the fan base is super excited about going the “up and coming coordinator” route again after the Nagy failure. Not that the next hire should in any way be contingent on that, but that’s how meatheaded the base is.

Also you’ve got the way the fans treated Nagy and his family which is pretty gross. I sure wouldn’t want to be in that situation regardless of the pay or the status. The guy was in over his head, but to publicly demonize the guy relentlessly and harass his family because a football team (which wasn’t constructed well) isn’t winning is just pathetic.

The blame lies with the ownership and the front office who hired Pace and Nagy and didn’t fully enable them. Just like the ultimate blame for the Weber fiasco lays at the feet of Lord Gunther. I eventually got disgusted by clown shoes because he threw kids under the bus, made excuses, blamed the fans for his failures, the list goes on. He had nine seasons and fully earned the level of disdain that he eventually faced at the end of his tenure from the people who weren’t constantly engaged in sucking his cock.

Nagy just wasn’t very polished or prepared for the role. He doesn’t have a great public personality and made some gaffes. But he didn’t pull all the passive aggressive, narcissistic shit Bubbles did. I hate the whole “complete jagoff masquerading as a lovable Everyman” reality that surfaced in Weber’s last few years much more than his ineptitude. Nagy was just a relatively inoffensive (in more ways than one) embodiment of the Peter Principle.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 18, 2022, 09:32:12 PM
They literally were taken one pick apart. It was virtually a coin flip. I’m sure there were other scouts and coaches who fail to make the playoffs who liked Herbert better as well? Ready to give them complete control of the Bears?

Trubisky was highly rated by the scouts and experts too. They must have just seen his game against the Illini.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 10:28:45 PM
Trubisky was highly rated by the scouts and experts too. They must have just seen his game against the Illini.

You’re not making much sense.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 10:31:27 PM
Harbaugh, if paired with a legit GM, is probably the one potentially attainable coach who could actually pique my interest. However he just bought himself some more time at his alma mater and his main competition in tOSU and Penn State seem to be slipping. But he really doesn’t seem to be on a trajectory to compete with the Georgias and Bamas of the world any time soon either.

Despite the history and lore and personal connection with Harbaugh, Chicago is a coaching graveyard with terrible ownership.  But it would be a fresh start with a lot of leeway most likely to rebuild the roster and leave his mark on the franchise.

Some retread is going to generate zero excitement and I’m not sure the fan base is super excited about going the “up and coming coordinator” route again after the Nagy failure. Not that the next hire should in any way be contingent on that, but that’s how meatheaded the base is.

Also you’ve got the way the fans treated Nagy and his family which is pretty gross. I sure wouldn’t want to be in that situation regardless of the pay or the status. The guy was in over his head, but to publicly demonize the guy relentlessly and harass his family because a football team (which wasn’t constructed well) isn’t winning is just pathetic.

The blame lies with the ownership and the front office who hired Pace and Nagy and didn’t fully enable them. Just like the ultimate blame for the Weber fiasco lays at the feet of Lord Gunther. I eventually got disgusted by clown shoes because he threw kids under the bus, made excuses, blamed the fans for his failures, the list goes on. He had nine seasons and fully earned the level of disdain that he eventually faced at the end of his tenure from the people who weren’t constantly engaged in sucking his cock.

Nagy just wasn’t very polished or prepared for the role. He doesn’t have a great public personality and made some gaffes. But he didn’t pull all the passive aggressive, narcissistic shit Bubbles did. I hate the whole “complete jagoff masquerading as a lovable Everyman” reality that surfaced in Weber’s last few years much more than his ineptitude. Nagy was just a relatively inoffensive (in more ways than one) embodiment of the Peter Principle.

Are you saying ownership hamstrung Pace and Nagy? I don’t see where that’s true at all.

Are you saying someone might not want the job because people shouted “fire Nagy” at sporting events? I guarantee you that’s not true.

There’s a lot coming out since he’s been fired that seems to show Nagy definitely had some passive-aggressive behavior. Not as blatant as Weber, but it’s there.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 18, 2022, 10:36:47 PM
You’re not making much sense.

Tua? We knew he got his hip messed up, etc. Yet the Draft Experts still loved him.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 18, 2022, 10:54:34 PM
Tua? We knew he got his hip messed up, etc. Yet the Draft Experts still loved him.

Which is why he fell to 5th. Apparently liking Herbert more than Tua, and guiding the Dolphins to ok records for a while gets you complete control of the Bears.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 18, 2022, 11:21:58 PM
Which is why he fell to 5th. Apparently liking Herbert more than Tua, and guiding the Dolphins to ok records for a while gets you complete control of the Bears.

Yes. Bears' Belichick!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 09:19:41 AM
Yes. Bears' Belichick!

Would be more likely to be Bears’ Matt Patricia.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 09:28:22 AM
Probably a good young coach. But I simply would not hand over the entire franchise to a guy who has never been to the playoffs, and has multiple red flags.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 09:45:48 AM
Probably a good young coach. But I simply would not hand over the entire franchise to a guy who has never been to the playoffs, and has multiple red flags.

But you will ignore Harbaugh's red flags that were getting him run out of Ann Arbor until he finally beat tO$U?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 09:54:42 AM
But you will ignore Harbaugh's red flags that were getting him run out of Ann Arbor until he finally beat tO$U?

Lol you’re ridiculous. Harbaugh has been successful everywhere he’s been. I’m not going to not hire him because “only” averaged 10 wins a year at Michigan. Your measuring sticks are all over the map.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 09:56:29 AM
You want to give complete control to a guy who had 4 OCs in three years and had a ridiculous “dual offensive coordinator system” this past year? Good coach? Probably. Harbaugh has accomplished way more at the NFL level than he has.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 09:57:43 AM
So according to Michael Lombardi, “the Bears aren’t asking the right questions” in the interviews they’ve been conducting. FML
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 09:59:30 AM
I seriously barely give a shit what he’s done at Michigan. Michigan has been OSUs lap dog for long before Harbaugh got there. Harbaugh doesn’t have to recruit in the NFL. Harbaugh is a proven successful HC at both levels.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 12:30:30 PM
I seriously barely give a shit what he’s done at Michigan.

You shouid. A lot of structural advantages there that he will not have at the Bear. Hasn't done much with them.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 12:31:24 PM
You want to give complete control to a guy who had 4 OCs in three years and had a ridiculous “dual offensive coordinator system” this past year? 

Yes.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 02:33:51 PM
You shouid. A lot of structural advantages there that he will not have at the Bear. Hasn't done much with them.

You could bring back Bear Fucking Bryant to Michigan and he’s losing to Alabama and Ohio State most years. Seriously. Who gives a fuck that he hasn’t crushed it at Michigan. He’s proven over 15 years he’s a highly competent coach at both levels.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 03:20:26 PM
You could bring back Bear Fucking Bryant to Michigan and he’s losing to Alabama and Ohio State most years. Seriously. Who gives a fuck that he hasn’t crushed it at Michigan. He’s proven over 15 years he’s a highly competent coach at both levels.

Bear Bryant knew how to cheat. It is a red flag that he has not crushed it at MI where he is the GM/HC.

I am willing to roll the dice and try to end up with someone who is more than "highly competent."
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 19, 2022, 03:33:43 PM
Harbaugh is going to fucking Miami.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 19, 2022, 03:35:18 PM
Harbaugh is going to fucking Miami.

People are saying it’s a done deal he’s going to Las Vegas. There’s so much BS out there right now it’s pointless to even speculate on this shit.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 19, 2022, 03:48:47 PM
People are saying it’s a done deal he’s going to Las Vegas. There’s so much BS out there right now it’s pointless to even speculate on this shit.

If he goes anywhere but Miami, I'll be shocked.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 04:18:32 PM
Bear Bryant knew how to cheat. It is a red flag that he has not crushed it at MI where he is the GM/HC.

I am willing to roll the dice and try to end up with someone who is more than "highly competent."

Dumb. Harbaugh is the safest pick the Bears could make, and has as much upside as any coach on their list. It’s a slam dunk to hire him if he wants the job.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 04:19:27 PM
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2022/01/19/report-ed-dodds-withdraws-from-bears-g-m-search/amp/

This is troublesome. Would seem to confirm Lombardi’s report that maybe the Bears aren’t aren’t asking the right questions. Dodds was in my top 2-3 GM choices.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 04:20:10 PM
People are saying it’s a done deal he’s going to Las Vegas. There’s so much BS out there right now it’s pointless to even speculate on this shit.

Who? I’ve heard nothing of this being a done deal.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 04:21:14 PM
Supposedly there was a brief conversation in the last 24 hours between the Bears and Harbaugh though. That could be good or bad, I guess.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 04:23:43 PM
Bear Bryant knew how to cheat. It is a red flag that he has not crushed it at MI where he is the GM/HC.

I am willing to roll the dice and try to end up with someone who is more than "highly competent."

The list of coaches of who’ve been “highly competent” in both college and the NFL is extremely short. You’re not as football smart as I thought you were if you’d rather gamble on some unproven candidate than go with someone who’s virtually 100% bankable.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 04:25:41 PM
And I’ll tell you right now, Brian Flores is probably a good coach; but it’s far more likely he’s Matt Patricia than the next Bill Belichick.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 05:04:02 PM
You shouid. A lot of structural advantages there that he will not have at the Bear. Hasn't done much with them.

Nick Saban is the college GOAT. Didn’t do much in the NFL, did he.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 05:27:30 PM
Dumb. Harbaugh is the safest pick the Bears could make, and has as much upside as any coach on their list. It’s a slam dunk to hire him if he wants the job.

"Safest pick." Man, you used to go for bold moves...Reggie Theus. Robinson or whatever Obama's brother-in-law's name is, etc. Now you are into "safe" picks? Suburbia has done you wrong.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 05:28:40 PM
That could be good or bad, I guess.

I'll just leave this right here for others.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 05:30:22 PM
And I’ll tell you right now, Brian Flores is probably a good coach; but it’s far more likely he’s Matt Patricia than the next Bill Belichick.

Of course. I want a bold move.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 05:30:42 PM
Nick Saban is the college GOAT. Didn’t do much in the NFL, did he.

Nope.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 05:43:08 PM
"Safest pick." Man, you used to go for bold moves...Reggie Theus. Robinson or whatever Obama's brother-in-law's name is, etc. Now you are into "safe" picks? Suburbia has done you wrong.

Safe WITH Super Bowl upside. He’s the most likely candidate to NOT fail. Proven winner.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 05:44:31 PM
Nope.

But yet because Harbaugh didn’t do well against Ohio State that’s proof he can’t get it done with the Bears. Am I interpreting this incorrectly?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 06:34:18 PM
But yet because Harbaugh didn’t do well against Ohio State that’s proof he can’t get it done with the Bears. Am I interpreting this incorrectly?

Because Michigan was ready to shitcan him.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 06:54:53 PM
Lol

Because Michigan has an overinflated view of itself.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 06:56:38 PM
Just as the Dolphins were ready to shitcan Nick Saban.

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 19, 2022, 06:59:11 PM
Quite possibly the underlying issue...

"Jim Harbaugh’s wandering NFL eye arises from desire to win a Super Bowl"
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 08:00:15 PM
If he goes anywhere but Miami, I'll be shocked.

Seen literally nothing to support this. Stephen Ross apparently said “I won’t be the person to take Jim Harbaugh from Michigan.”

Harbaugh to Vegas seems to be the hot rumor. Wonder why Vegas? I don’t think he’d have a better chance to win a Super Bowl there than here.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 08:03:12 PM
I don’t think I would want him for the Bears, but I’m extremely intrigued by Mike McDaniel. Can’t wait to see what he’d do as a HC. I think he’s a guy who could flourish, or blow up spectacularly.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 19, 2022, 08:20:05 PM
PAMan ?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 19, 2022, 08:48:51 PM
Harbaugh gets an offer ......

Ohio State has offered Jim Harbaugh a 7 year $77 million dollar contract to remain the head coach at Michigan.

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 09:46:13 PM
Seen literally nothing to support this. Stephen Ross apparently said “I won’t be the person to take Jim Harbaugh from Michigan.”

Harbaugh to Vegas seems to be the hot rumor. Wonder why Vegas? I don’t think he’d have a better chance to win a Super Bowl there than here.

Mayock quit as GM
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 09:46:51 PM
PAMan ?

I'm laughing
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 19, 2022, 09:47:10 PM
Harbaugh gets an offer ......

Ohio State has offered Jim Harbaugh a 7 year $77 million dollar contract to remain the head coach at Michigan.

That's good stuff
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 11:14:20 PM
I get it. Tempo said something could go either way. Hahaha good stuff. Stupid…
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 19, 2022, 11:28:43 PM
Predictions are all over the map. Seeing a lot of:

Leftwich - Jax
Harbaugh - Vegas
Quinn - Denver

Seen like a half dozen (at least) potential Bears coaches. Harbaugh, Daboll, Eberflus, Flores, Frazier, Caldwell. Maybe even another one or two I’ve forgotten.

Not gonna happen, but I’d pick Leftwich if we can’t get Harbaugh.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 20, 2022, 05:29:08 PM
https://twitter.com/adamhoge/status/1483999820641710080?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 20, 2022, 07:45:04 PM
Losing hope the Bears will get this right.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 21, 2022, 12:22:50 AM
LOL
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 21, 2022, 05:13:38 AM
LOL

Fair.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 21, 2022, 05:16:44 AM
Apparently the Bears are going to interview Dennis Allen. I’m not saying the new guy can’t be a defensive coach, but that seems like about the only thing they’ve been interviewing. And just dumb to be interviewing coaches right now, anyway. Get the damn GM and let him pick the coach. FFS.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 21, 2022, 06:21:18 AM
Not that it will help, but the Vikings are interviewing coaches also.
The new GM will have input in the coach hire, but I see nothing wrong with eliminating some coach candidates to expedite the coach hire once one of the 8 GM candidates is hired.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 21, 2022, 08:13:18 AM
So apparently Eberflus is a finalist for HC. It’s insane that they are declaring finalists before they have a GM. This would seem to indicate Morocco Brown has a really strong chance of getting the job. Not thrilled.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 21, 2022, 09:22:01 AM
So apparently Eberflus is a finalist for HC. It’s insane that they are declaring finalists before they have a GM. This would seem to indicate Morocco Brown has a really strong chance of getting the job. Not thrilled.

One would have thought you would be wearing your cup the whole time.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 21, 2022, 10:51:21 AM
One would have thought you would be wearing your cup the whole time.

Believe it or not, I have an optimistic side. Especially when new coaches/GMs are being discussed. But I was not totally unprepared for the nut punch.

Caldwell getting a lot of run today, too. Acceptable, but totally un-exciting hire if he gets the job. Would be very Bears to hire Polian, cast a wide net, then hire a guy Polian has hired in the past.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 21, 2022, 11:03:20 PM
Can probably kiss Daboll goodbye as the Giants have hired Joe Shoen. Curious George and Sleepy Ted get pantsed again. Will probably end up going ultra-conservative and hire Caldwell. John Fox the Sequel.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 22, 2022, 05:58:31 AM
Can probably kiss Daboll goodbye as the Giants have hired Joe Shoen. Curious George and Sleepy Ted get pantsed again. Will probably end up going ultra-conservative and hire Caldwell. John Fox the Sequel.

You never mentioned Shoen before and your last mention of Daboll was that he was trending down. Why are you concerned now?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 22, 2022, 07:52:49 AM
You never mentioned Shoen before and your last mention of Daboll was that he was trending down. Why are you concerned now?

Daboll is not my favorite, but I don’t think we’re getting Harbaugh, and I don’t think they’re hiring Leftwich. I want it to be a younger offensive hire if not Harbaugh. Daboll was the most likely hire that fits that bill. No pun intended…Not my first choice, but probably the best and most realistic choice after my favorites. And I’ve warmed up on his some.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 22, 2022, 07:58:34 AM
Definitely would take Daboll over Caldwell, or a first-time HC defensive guy.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 22, 2022, 08:15:55 AM
Brian Daboll, 46.
Byron Leftwich, 42.
Matt Nagy, 43. Hired at 40.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 22, 2022, 09:21:10 AM
Brian Daboll, 46.
Byron Leftwich, 42.
Matt Nagy, 43. Hired at 40.

What’s your point?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 22, 2022, 09:35:02 AM
What’s your point?
You want a young hire. Correct ?
The Bears last hire was a young hire.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 22, 2022, 10:35:49 AM
You want a young hire. Correct ?
The Bears last hire was a young hire.

That’s what I thought your point was. So? Doesn’t mean the next young hire is doomed to fail. Daboll has called games for like 6 years. Nagy called games for 6 games.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 22, 2022, 10:42:10 AM
That’s what I thought your point was. So? Doesn’t mean the next young hire is doomed to fail. Daboll has called games for like 6 years. Nagy called games for 6 games.
And Reid called Nagy the next best thing to sliced bread, not that a coach wouldn't embellish an assistant.
So "experience" might be more important than age ?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 22, 2022, 10:51:41 AM
And why wouldn’t he? That’s his boy.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 23, 2022, 10:58:26 PM
I wouldn’t be at all upset if the Bears hired Daboll tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 23, 2022, 10:59:14 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/MTzKycm2/54-E5985-B-6-FC5-4314-B948-0-FA03-DAB7-A6-A.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2022, 07:34:47 AM
https://twitter.com/pff_bears/status/1485005694675951618?s=21

We could of had him as late as the 5th round, and instead the young genius Ryan Pace reached for Adam Shaheen in the 2nd. This fact will never stop irritating me.

“Da Bears! I fucking love the Bears.”
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2022, 07:45:45 AM
I’ve been wanting Leftwich for the Bears (and still would be happy if they hired him), but how do you look at Josh Allen’s improvement and performance in these playoffs and not see Daboll is an obvious choice?

I bet the Bears don’t even have a GM before midweek. Could easily see Daboll going to the Giants before the Bears even have a GM.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2022, 09:52:16 AM
Sounds like there’s a high likelihood the Bears’ next coach will be Eberflus, Caldwell, or Leslie Frazier. Just fucking shoot me.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 24, 2022, 10:05:13 AM
Sounds like there’s a high likelihood the Bears’ next coach will be Eberflus, Caldwell, or Leslie Frazier. Just fucking shoot me.

It really depends on who you listen to. I’ve found numerous sources this morning refuting that. I know Daniel Greenberg has stated what you did.

https://twitter.com/dabearsblog/status/1485633420961198081?s=21

https://twitter.com/robertkschmitz/status/1485443688528556032?s=21

Or this…
https://twitter.com/bryanpereznfl/status/1485594133360173057?s=21

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 24, 2022, 11:42:49 AM
Jobu ?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 24, 2022, 03:57:40 PM
Jobu ?

Would be willing to shoot Tempo? Probably.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 24, 2022, 06:49:42 PM
It really depends on who you listen to. I’ve found numerous sources this morning refuting that. I know Daniel Greenberg has stated what you did.

https://twitter.com/dabearsblog/status/1485633420961198081?s=21

https://twitter.com/robertkschmitz/status/1485443688528556032?s=21

Or this…
https://twitter.com/bryanpereznfl/status/1485594133360173057?s=21

Not that follower counts are the be all/end all, but Greenberg and Breer have far more followers than those accounts.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2022, 07:36:15 AM
This sure looks like George McCaskey picking up Ryan Poles from the airport.

https://twitter.com/paytonsun/status/1485857328670851072?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 25, 2022, 10:49:58 AM
This sure looks like George McCaskey picking up Ryan Poles from the airport.

https://twitter.com/paytonsun/status/1485857328670851072?s=21

Too cheap to have his people pick him up?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2022, 12:11:01 PM
It’s Poles.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2022, 12:12:24 PM
Caldwell in the building today. So apparently they’re going with the young scout/GM and experienced coach again?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 25, 2022, 12:12:59 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/oC7diau.png)
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 25, 2022, 01:03:21 PM
It’s Poles.
But, but, but. He's supposed to meet with the Vikings tomorrow. Lol.
Next man up.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 25, 2022, 01:43:17 PM
Sean Payton update…

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1486048076343226370?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2022, 02:46:24 PM
Sean Payton update…

https://twitter.com/rapsheet/status/1486048076343226370?s=21

Would be nice, but don’t see it happening. Bears would have to part with draft capital since Payton is under contract.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 25, 2022, 02:46:55 PM
So it’s back to the KC well, this time for a GM.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 25, 2022, 05:38:04 PM
Ryan Pace
Nick Foles
Ryan Poles

Weird…
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2022, 07:24:22 PM
So it’s back to the KC well, this time for a GM.

And maybe HC?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2022, 07:33:01 PM
A lot to chew on here. In some respect feels a lot like Ryan Pace, but I think he’s more coveted than Pace was coming out of NO. I like a lot of what I’ve heard. I’d be absolutely stoked about this hire if we had him under a Rick Smith PFO. I can’t understand why Smith’s name wasn’t strongly associated with the job. The guy was a slam dunk hire.

I’m glad he will apparently be the only voice that matters in the HC hire. It’s critical he gets it right. The list of current possibilities is extremely unexciting, but do have their merits.

In a perfect world I’d love to see Leftwich brought in as HC, w Caldwell as assistant HC and OC, but that would be very unlikely. But it’s not a given Caldwell gets a job. I’d be doing all I can to get Fangio back as DC also.

Will be very disappointed if Bieniemy is the HC hire. Too close to Nagy. I think I’d rather see Justin in a different/more vertical system like w/Daboll or Leftwich.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2022, 08:47:45 PM
Can’t believe no one is talking about da Bear on a day we hired a new GM.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 25, 2022, 08:54:01 PM
Can’t believe no one is talking about da Bear on a day we hired a new GM.

Well the Bears haven’t officially announced it yet I believe.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 25, 2022, 08:57:58 PM
I missed it. It appears they officially did a little less than a hour ago…

https://twitter.com/chicagobears/status/1486148327108485122?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 25, 2022, 11:19:09 PM
Can’t believe no one is talking about da Bear on a day we hired a new GM.

Shows you the amount of interest
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 25, 2022, 11:22:48 PM
Shows you the amount of interest

Yeah, all 8 contributors here are disinterested.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 25, 2022, 11:25:01 PM
Yeah, all 8 contributors here are disinterested.

That’s a low percentage
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 26, 2022, 12:28:08 AM
Can’t believe no one is talking about da Bear on a day we hired a new GM.

Care level about the bears is pretty close to zero
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 26, 2022, 07:56:22 AM
Interesting .......

(https://i.ibb.co/LNhdp9W/Screenshot-20220126-071237.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/XWphLyH/Screenshot-20220126-071815.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/m91nPbT/Screenshot-20220126-072158.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrgfKwy)

The OC ? Brent Vigen, who coached with Craig Bohl at North Dakota State and followed him to Wyoming when Bohl got the HC job.
Vigen went to Montana State in 2021 for the HC job.
Who played in the 2021-2022 FCS Championship game ? Montana State and North Dakota State.   


Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 26, 2022, 08:43:01 AM
Another Chief and a guy who is allegedly best friends with Nagy. This does not excite me. Let's see who the coach is.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 26, 2022, 08:44:15 AM
Interesting .......

(https://i.ibb.co/LNhdp9W/Screenshot-20220126-071237.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/XWphLyH/Screenshot-20220126-071815.jpg)

(https://i.ibb.co/m91nPbT/Screenshot-20220126-072158.jpg) (https://ibb.co/DrgfKwy)

The OC ? Brent Vigen, who coached with Craig Bohl at North Dakota State and followed him to Wyoming when Bohl got the HC job.
Vigen went to Montana State in 2021 for the HC job.
Who played in the 2021-2022 FCS Championship game ? Montana State and North Dakota State.

The least surprising part in the story is Trubisky messing up.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2022, 08:33:05 PM
Quinn interviewed today. I think Caldwell yesterday. My guess is it hurts both their chances since neither was hired on the spot. If you know you’ve got your guy, you hire him on the spot. Eberflus the front-runner?

PAMan’s boy not being mentioned hardly at all for other jobs. Some big red flags with Flores.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 26, 2022, 08:42:03 PM
And maybe HC?

After the Nagy era, fuck no.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2022, 09:01:31 PM
After the Nagy era, fuck no.

Agreed. I’m a firm no on more KC coordinators at this time.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 26, 2022, 10:05:21 PM

PAMan’s boy not being mentioned hardly at all for other jobs. Some big red flags with Flores.

It's the NFL. Good head coaches are few and far between these days. The Bear is not alone on this one. There are maybe 3 or 4 decent head coaches these days? The days of Shula, Parcells, Walsh, Levy (a Chicago Jew for Q97!) etc. are long gone. Most guys today are basically thinner Abe Gibrons.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2022, 10:11:40 PM
A few years ago I saw Marv Levy walking down the street in my old neighborhood. I’m pretty sure he’s available.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 26, 2022, 10:15:39 PM
A few years ago I saw Marv Levy walking down the street in my old neighborhood. I’m pretty sure he’s available.

I was in an elevator with him in the 90s where I worked. Thought it was him, but could not fathom why he would be in a Chicago elevator at the time. The next week the Trib had its story about him being from Chicago and still having a place here. D'oh!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2022, 10:18:36 PM
I was in an elevator with him in the 90s where I worked. Thought it was him, but could not fathom why he would be in a Chicago elevator at the time. The next week the Trib had its story about him being from Chicago and still having a place here. D'oh!

Pretty sure he lives in Lincoln Park.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2022, 10:19:09 PM
I’ve seen him a couple other times randomly. One time eating lunch in the Gold Coast.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 26, 2022, 10:24:28 PM
I’ve seen him a couple other times randomly. One time eating lunch in the Gold Coast.

Bears should hire him even though he is 96.

Was there anyone besides Walsh from his "coaching tree" that got jobs as head coaches? I don't recall any. Seems odd for a guy who led a team to 4 straight Superbowls.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 26, 2022, 10:35:24 PM
Levy was a very good coach, but seeing as how they went to 4 straight Super Bowls it’s pretty clear their scouting department crushed a few drafts over a short period.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 26, 2022, 10:38:18 PM
Would be something if Wayne_W started a Tell Your Story About Seeing Marv Levy thread.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 27, 2022, 06:20:51 AM
Would be something if Wayne_W started a Tell Your Story About Seeing Marv Levy thread.
Tempo: in a matter of 3-5 posts, I've seen him 3-5 times.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 08:39:06 AM
You guys can be very strange at times.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 09:55:08 AM
It’s Eberflus
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2022, 09:55:47 AM
It’s Eberflus
Unexciting choice.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2022, 10:18:33 AM
Hope this Matt/Ryan duo works out better than the last one.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2022, 10:22:26 AM
So weird.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 27, 2022, 10:46:08 AM
It’s Eberflus
(https://i.ibb.co/54jNfT0/Screenshot-20220127-104213.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xLgpRhk)

Any more requests ?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2022, 11:13:02 AM
https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1486745238945288200?s=21

https://twitter.com/brobnfl/status/1486738384311635975?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 11:47:34 AM
I don’t understand this hire at all. First time GM/First time defensive-minded head coach.

Switching back to Tampa 2. I just don’t get it.

Hopefully they can get a really strong OC to groom Fields. I’d feel like they’d do well to get Caldwell for that position.

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 11:48:33 AM
Going to reserve judgment, hopefully it works. But it’s super unexciting, and doesn’t really make sense IMO.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 12:06:14 PM
I hope they have a surprisingly good plan to develop Fields.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 27, 2022, 12:09:13 PM
Joe Brady has been mentioned for OC apparently
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 27, 2022, 12:34:29 PM
I hope they have a surprisingly good plan to develop Fields.

Going to guess they don't. Odds in my favor.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 27, 2022, 01:02:32 PM
LOLOL
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2022, 02:23:48 PM
Hard to get blown away by either of these hires. That being said, the McCaskeys have to nail it eventually…right?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 27, 2022, 02:28:12 PM
Hard to get blown away by either of these hires. That being said, the McCaskeys have to nail it eventually…right?

No.  No, they really don't. 

I know nothing about either of these guys.  Maybe it will work out, but my gut and experience says it won't.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 27, 2022, 02:32:49 PM
No.  No, they really don't. 

I know nothing about either of these guys.  Maybe it will work out, but my gut and experience says it won't.
Lol.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 27, 2022, 02:34:49 PM
Lol.

Hi, Mn.  How are you today? Staying warm?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 27, 2022, 02:40:58 PM
Hi, Mn.  How are you today? Staying warm?
Doin good. Some good laughs today, and warmed up to the mid 20's under blue skies.
Did you have your mother in law's potato soup for lunch today ?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 27, 2022, 02:42:23 PM
Doin good. Some good laughs today, and warmed up to the mid 20's under blue skies.
Did you have your mother in law's potato soup for lunch today ?

It's 38 here!  Fucking tropical heat wave.

Definite no on the potato soup.  My plan is to make chili cheese dogs and fries tonight!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 02:45:49 PM
Doin good. Some good laughs today, and warmed up to the mid 20's under blue skies.
Did you have your mother in law's potato soup for lunch today ?

Soup? Weather? Take it to the old fogey board.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 27, 2022, 03:06:30 PM
It's 38 here!  Fucking tropical heat wave.

Definite no on the potato soup.  My plan is to make chili cheese dogs and fries tonight!
Looks like chicken creole on the menu for tonight.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 27, 2022, 03:06:35 PM
Soup? Weather? Take it to the old fogey board.

Excuse me, asshole.  I'm talking to my good friend Mn.  Mind your own fucking business.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 27, 2022, 03:07:14 PM
Looks like chicken creole on the menu for tonight.

Oh, wow.  Sounds good. 
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 27, 2022, 03:13:07 PM
Oh, wow.  Sounds good. 
We'll see. I haven't tried the recipe before.
Eberflus is probably having a nice, thick steak tonight.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 27, 2022, 03:18:44 PM
We'll see. I haven't tried the recipe before.
Eberflus is probably having a nice, thick steak tonight.

Oh, probably. 

Let me know how the creole works out.  Might give it a go.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 27, 2022, 03:39:29 PM
Joe Brady has been mentioned for OC apparently

He, Poles and Eberflus are all repped by the same agent. I’d rather stay away from anyone affiliated with the Panthers shit show.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 27, 2022, 03:50:54 PM
He, Poles and Eberflus are all repped by the same agent. I’d rather stay away from anyone affiliated with the Panthers shit show.
So Trace Armstrong is the Trace Armstrong, former Chicago Bears defensive end.
Funny how that works.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 06:21:42 PM
Hopefully Eberflus is the leader of men he’s cracked up to be. Could work out if he hires good assistants.

I’d love to see Caldwell hired as OC and Rod Marinelli brought back as DC. That would be a great coordinator staff. Lance Briggs even threw out Lovie’s name, but Lovie would cast a big shadow at Halas Hall. That’s a big ask.

Kinda shocking Daboll hasn’t been hired yet. Wonder if he’s a terrible interview or some personality flaw.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 27, 2022, 06:45:02 PM
Absolutely zero buzz over this. Total crickets.

Which is fine. It’s what the Bears deserve.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 07:19:40 PM
Apparently Mike Singletary contacted Ted Phillips about the job. Hilarious.

https://heavy.com/sports/chicago-bears/mike-singletary-phone-call-head-coach/amp/
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 27, 2022, 08:03:44 PM
Oh, probably. 

Let me know how the creole works out.  Might give it a go.
Meh. Not a great recipe.
Chili cheese dogs and fries sounds better.
Any news on potential Bears coordinators ?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 08:13:22 PM
Meh. Not a great recipe.
Chili cheese dogs and fries sounds better.
Any news on potential Bears coordinators ?

Just rampant speculation at this point.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 27, 2022, 08:23:51 PM
Meh. Not a great recipe.
Chili cheese dogs and fries sounds better.
Any news on potential Bears coordinators ?

Damn. Always looking for good new recipes to try.

The chili cheese dogs were fabulous. Some days are just made for those. Had air fryer tots to go with them.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 27, 2022, 09:57:47 PM
Reported that Eberflus is taking a deep dive on the Shanahan tree for OC. I’m pretty sure I’m down with that.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 28, 2022, 06:23:07 AM
Uh, this would be fabulous if true…

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1486889010823929859?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 28, 2022, 02:55:16 PM
Sign me up!

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1487145085376638976?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 28, 2022, 03:28:09 PM
Sign me up!

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1487145085376638976?s=21

Can he bring Davante Adams with him?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 28, 2022, 03:49:33 PM
Can he bring Davante Adams with him?

I think Adams and Rodgers are headed to Denver.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 28, 2022, 04:05:59 PM
Damn. Always looking for good new recipes to try.

The chili cheese dogs were fabulous. Some days are just made for those. Had air fryer tots to go with them.
Hey Jobu,
If you're looking for a recipe for catfish head stew, this might be a good start. Unless, of course, you have a go to recipe already.
Any Bears coordinator news ?

https://acadianatable.com/2016/02/29/catfish-head-stew/
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 28, 2022, 07:06:57 PM
Sign me up!

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1487145085376638976?s=21

Not impressed. First time GM/First time HC/First time OC who was 3rd offensive guy at best with former team? Pair that with a probable first time DC. This has the potential to tank, and quickly.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 28, 2022, 08:19:54 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Giants Expected to Hire Brian Daboll as Head Coach
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 28, 2022, 08:33:32 PM
BREAKING NEWS: Giants Expected to Hire Brian Daboll as Head Coach

Bears didn't need a guy who made an inaccurate passer who could run better.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 28, 2022, 08:44:03 PM
Bears didn't need a guy who made an inaccurate passer who could run better.
He probably would have been a headache for the McCaskeys anyway.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 28, 2022, 08:54:06 PM
Not impressed by the staff they appear to be putting together.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 29, 2022, 12:20:14 AM
Not impressed by the staff they appear to be putting together.

You were BTC on this one. But JizzJerkoff is excited about the special teams coach.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 29, 2022, 08:42:56 AM
You were BTC on this one. But JizzJerkoff is excited about the special teams coach.

Look at Green Bay’s special teams… they matter. Why do you think GB lost that playoff game? 🤔 ThePAMan you’re a fucking moron. And an attention whore I might add.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 29, 2022, 08:55:11 AM
Hey Jobu,
If you're looking for a recipe for catfish head stew, this might be a good start. Unless, of course, you have a go to recipe already.
Any Bears coordinator news ?

https://acadianatable.com/2016/02/29/catfish-head-stew/

I do like catfish. Never tried the head in a stew, tho.

Found a taco rice recipe we’re gonna try tonight.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 29, 2022, 09:15:57 AM
Reported that Eberflus is taking a deep dive on the Shanahan tree for OC. I’m pretty sure I’m down with that.

Well you need a good o-line to run that system so....
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 29, 2022, 10:07:38 AM
Well you need a good o-line to run that system so....

I think it’s getting better, and it can always be improved. I think our former offensive lineman GM will try to do that.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 29, 2022, 11:00:48 AM
Without trying to be controversial, I will say that you must have a good oline to be successful at any level of football.

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 29, 2022, 11:06:16 AM
Well thanks, Wayne, for your contribution!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 29, 2022, 11:17:30 AM
Well thanks, Wayne, for your contribution!

Haha, thanks but I’m not Wayne

My profile pic is a tribute to special olympians everywhere. With a little work, anything is possible.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on January 29, 2022, 11:39:01 AM
Haha, thanks but I’m not Wayne

My profile pic is a tribute to special olympians everywhere. With a little work, anything is possible.

I know. I really liked that response though! I bet that Special Olympian in your profile picture wins EVERYTHING! Look at Dee, now back at that Special Olympian, now back at Dee. DAMN! 🥵 

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 29, 2022, 12:19:22 PM
Without trying to be controversial, I will say that you must have a good oline to be successful at any level of football.

and a dline too while you're at it
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 29, 2022, 12:57:19 PM
and a dline too while you're at it

Yes
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 29, 2022, 01:14:08 PM
The old schoolers with the "you win in the trenches" are out today.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 29, 2022, 04:35:18 PM
Vikings rumored to be interviewing Jim Harbaugh. Would be quite the nut punch to be pantsed by the Vikings.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on January 29, 2022, 10:53:40 PM
How can you already not be embarrassed to the point of not being able to be further embarrassed? I wish you were as hard on the Bears front office as you are the Illini.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 30, 2022, 12:32:54 AM
Luke Getsy expected to be the OC. Even Wikipedia lists him as the Bears’ OC already.

Fucking Poles and Eberflus better be the “smartest guys in the room,” or we’re fucked.

Every major position in the franchise has someone in his first year doing the job. Justin Fields has more experience as an NFL starter than the rest of the front office and coaches combined. FML
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: fucking on January 30, 2022, 02:13:09 AM
I opened this thread only to see if it was as boring as I

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Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 30, 2022, 01:15:42 PM
The Bears hires so far are meh on top of more meh.

Not sure this staff has what it takes to put an end to the cycle of Bears suck that's been going on the last 30 years.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: IlliniGolf on January 30, 2022, 02:41:08 PM
Depressing !
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 30, 2022, 11:09:27 PM
There’s not a lot to point at outside of just hoping they’re the right men for the job. I don’t see anything from any of them that screams cream of the crop.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 30, 2022, 11:11:35 PM
Supposedly they were really impressed with Jim Caldwell’s plan to develop Justin Fields. And then they turned to Luke Getsy. A guy almost no one has ever heard of.

I’d have offered Caldwell the OC job. He’s iffy at best to get a HC gig.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on January 31, 2022, 06:26:28 AM
PerFekShun.
Sincerely,
Da Bears

(https://i.ibb.co/74sZwYd/Screenshot-20220131-062031.jpg) (https://ibb.co/cL4ZGgS)
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on January 31, 2022, 12:15:13 PM
Introductory presser with Poles and Eberflus was extremely underwhelming. A lot of coach speak and generalities. Very few specifics. Both made sure to thank God.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on January 31, 2022, 01:42:38 PM
Introductory presser with Poles and Eberflus was extremely underwhelming. A lot of coach speak and generalities. Very few specifics. Both made sure to thank God.

did either of them talk about lasagna?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on January 31, 2022, 02:47:25 PM
Eberflus at least knows the “why.” Nagy still figuring out why he got fired.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on January 31, 2022, 03:26:47 PM
did either of them talk about lasagna?

WINT was mentioned.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on January 31, 2022, 04:21:40 PM
I'm largely underwhelmed, but it's the Bears, so I've come to grips with the fact that anything they try will fail.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 01, 2022, 07:47:27 PM
Being reported Harbaugh is headed to Minnesota. That’s going to give the Bears’ a black eye. Especially if Eberflus isn’t looking good out of the gate. SMH
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on February 01, 2022, 08:25:58 PM
Looks like Flores pretty much Kapernicked himself.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 01, 2022, 10:37:32 PM
Being reported Harbaugh is headed to Minnesota. That’s going to give the Bears’ a black eye. Especially if Eberflus isn’t looking good out of the gate. SMH

Honestly who cares about the optics?! We’ll find out in a few years who made the right decision by results. If the Bears have their guys, then that’s all that matters.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 02:22:09 AM
Honestly who cares about the optics?! We’ll find out in a few years who made the right decision by results. If the Bears have their guys, then that’s all that matters.

It’s not just about optics. I’d say there’s a pretty strong likelihood Harbaugh is a better HC than Eberflus.

And the fact that Harbaugh could be had, and they let him go to a division rival on top of it? I know it’s a tired phrase, but that’s not a good look.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 02, 2022, 07:09:27 AM
Hey Jim, It's Da Bears calling.
Tell em I'm not home.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 02, 2022, 01:27:59 PM
Great,  another guy from the Colts staff that couldn't beat Jacksonville. Fucking awesome.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 02, 2022, 02:50:47 PM
It’s not just about optics. I’d say there’s a pretty strong likelihood Harbaugh is a better HC than Eberflus.

And the fact that Harbaugh could be had, and they let him go to a division rival on top of it? I know it’s a tired phrase, but that’s not a good look.

https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1488935850587181065?s=21

Here ya go…
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 02, 2022, 02:56:10 PM
And a former player regarding OC Luke Getsy…

https://twitter.com/chisportupdates/status/1488952611059425288?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 06:37:39 PM
https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1488935850587181065?s=21

Here ya go…

That’s one guys’ opinion. How is Harbaugh “a huge risk” more than a guy who was almost totally unknown until a couple of weeks ago?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 02, 2022, 06:53:13 PM
That’s one guys’ opinion. How is Harbaugh “a huge risk” more than a guy who was almost totally unknown until a couple of weeks ago?

Well it’s just like your opinion. No more or less relevant, just pointing it out. And previously you did mention followers on Twitter. He has more than you, so MUST be more credible. Not that that’s the be all end all of course. Just using your argument against you per say.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on February 02, 2022, 06:54:08 PM
Harbaugh and MN don’t seem like a great fit. But I kind of hope it happens and he kills it there. Would have been a great fit for Chicago but I’m sure the McCaskeys were concerned he might speak up about the incompetence.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on February 02, 2022, 06:54:44 PM
Harbaugh staying at Michigan, per Schefter.

http://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1489031932558069772
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 02, 2022, 07:08:58 PM
Good. I wouldn’t want him in the same division.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 07:17:00 PM
Harbaugh in classic Harbaugh move stays at Michigan. Dude is a jag. I’d still like to have his as coach, though.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 07:17:38 PM
Well it’s just like your opinion. No more or less relevant, just pointing it out. And previously you did mention followers on Twitter. He has more than you, so MUST be more credible. Not that that’s the be all end all of course. Just using your argument against you per say.

Yeah, I’m not a Bears beat reporter, so it would make sense he has more followers than me.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 07:19:32 PM
As far as Bears beat reporters go, his follower count seems low…

Again, how would Harbaugh be “risky” compared to going with a totally unproven staff?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 07:28:00 PM
As far as the “more Twitter followers being more credible” debate, I mean in terms of reporting. i.e. sources and whatnot. e.g. Schefter vs Infante.  Not more credible in terms of opinion.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 02, 2022, 08:02:03 PM
There’s always a caveat with you.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:20:21 PM
JFC dude. Do you really think I’d say someone’s OPINION is “more credible ” because they have more Twitter followers? JFC you never cease to amaze me with how dumb you can get.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:21:17 PM
In that case, I guess I find Donald Trump extremely credible…
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 02, 2022, 08:30:33 PM
JFC dude. Do you really think I’d say someone’s OPINION is “more credible ” because they have more Twitter followers? JFC you never cease to amaze me with how dumb you can get.

Idk man, kinda looks that way here…

(https://i.ibb.co/vJpL0b5/3-E4-A19-B7-3-FFF-421-A-8-E99-3429-A19-E494-B.png) (https://ibb.co/Xz1Fc9B)
copper horse crusade (https://nonprofitlight.com/oh/cambridge/copper-horse-crusade)

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 02, 2022, 08:40:43 PM
JFC dude. Do you really think I’d say someone’s OPINION is “more credible ” because they have more Twitter followers? JFC you never cease to amaze me with how dumb you can get.

Legends would call such a person a "low thinker. "
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:41:39 PM
Idk man, kinda looks that way here…

(https://i.ibb.co/vJpL0b5/3-E4-A19-B7-3-FFF-421-A-8-E99-3429-A19-E494-B.png) (https://ibb.co/Xz1Fc9B)
copper horse crusade (https://nonprofitlight.com/oh/cambridge/copper-horse-crusade)

Yes, idiot. They are reporters. Reporting stuff. Jesus, you’re dumb.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 02, 2022, 08:43:20 PM
Would think Hairball would be more competent than guys from the Colt who couldn't beat the Jacksonville Jaguar in order to get a playoff spot.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:43:36 PM
Do you not understand the difference between a reporter saying “sources tell me,” and “I think…”
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:45:27 PM
So in simpler words, do you understand the difference between reporting/speculation and offering a personal opinion?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 02, 2022, 08:47:52 PM
How many The Twitter followers does the guy from The Patch who wrote that Matt Nagy was going to be fired mid-season have?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:51:21 PM
How many The Twitter followers does the guy from The Patch who wrote that Matt Nagy was going to be fired mid-season have?

7,175. Yes, I looked it up. Honestly would not be surprised if George changed his mind because he got pantsed.

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 02, 2022, 08:53:18 PM
7,175. Yes, I looked it up. Honestly would not be surprised if George changed his mind because he got pantsed.

Is that a lot? I'm not on The Twitter
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:55:21 PM
Is that a lot? I'm not on The Twitter

For a reporter? No.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:57:28 PM
Don’t give a damn about defense (in a one game setting). Show me you can drag a good team up and down the court and hang 90 on them. If we win 93-91 I won’t be complaining about defense.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 02, 2022, 08:58:17 PM
Don’t give a damn about defense (in a one game setting). Show me you can drag a good team up and down the court and hang 90 on them. If we win 93-91 I won’t be complaining about defense.

This is The Bear thread.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 08:59:49 PM
Haha yeah, I noticed.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 02, 2022, 09:03:27 PM
Do you not understand the difference between a reporter saying “sources tell me,” and “I think…”

He just might have reason to say Harbaugh was a long shot. You’re the one saying that’s his opinion, not him.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 09:08:44 PM
He just might have reason to say Harbaugh was a long shot. You’re the one saying that’s his opinion, not him.

Maybe he could explain why he felt he was a “long shot.”

I took bigger issue with him saying Harbaugh is a “big risk” compared to a largely unknown defensive coordinator. That’s just a limp dick opinion.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 09:12:08 PM
That’s one guys’ opinion. How is Harbaugh “a huge risk” more than a guy who was almost totally unknown until a couple of weeks ago?

See, this is me two pages ago. Taking issue with his “Harbaugh is a huge risk” take.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on February 02, 2022, 09:14:44 PM
Justin Bieber has 114 million twitter followers.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 02, 2022, 09:16:33 PM
Justin Bieber has 114 million twitter followers.

Extremely credible. When he says something, you can take it to the bank.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 07:02:46 AM
https://twitter.com/adamrank/status/1489043806431313921?s=21

https://twitter.com/adamrank/status/1489043340809015301?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 07:22:16 AM
Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy were “first choice” candidates.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 07:23:17 AM
OMG we not only get to get rid of Matt Nagy but maybe keep him in the division! This would be great!

https://twitter.com/bearsnationchi/status/1488994659917512711?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 07:27:10 AM
Ryan Pace and Matt Nagy were “first choice” candidates.

Your logic is flawed. Just because those two ultimately failed doesn’t make these guys ***(new hires)*** failures.

Edit- to clarify.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 07:30:24 AM
The Lions are one of the few organizations run worse than the Bears. Please let them hire that buffoon Nagy. Would love kicking his ass every year. Unfortunately being a Bears and an Illini fan (nut punches), he’ll probably whoop our ass every year lol
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 08:02:53 AM
Your logic is flawed. Just because those two ultimately failed doesn’t make these guys failures.

Lock in on your guys and do what it takes to get them. They did that. I don’t have a lot of faith in the Bears either, but they made a decision and we’ll see what happens.

Lol legitimately
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 08:18:59 AM
Just because Kwame Brown failed doesn’t mean he was a failure. After all, he was the first choice.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 08:20:40 AM
So because Nagy and Pace were first choices and failed, the new hires must be too by your logic. As you would say, kewl.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 08:46:12 AM
So because Nagy and Pace were first choices and failed, the new hires must be too by your logic. As you would say, kewl.

JFC you really are this dumb. That’s not what I’m saying. There’s always the chance “it could work out.” But having your “first choice” in no way guarantees you chose correctly or that your process was beyond scrutiny.

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 09:31:51 AM
JFC you really are this dumb. That’s not what I’m saying. There’s always the chance “it could work out.” But having your “first choice” in no way guarantees you chose correctly or that your process was beyond scrutiny.

I realize that dumbass. They don’t all work out. The point I was making was they got the guys they wanted. Then you tried to refute that by bringing up Nagy and Pace as an example, not me. Some how pointing that out as “evidence” or whatever you want to try and prove some kind of point. So why bring those two up if you weren’t trying to counter my argument?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 03, 2022, 09:58:08 AM
Bears fan upset that the business owners did not hire, at great expense, a probable headache that nobody else offered a job either.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 10:22:57 AM
I don’t have any more energy to argue with this dipshit. It’s just talking in circles
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 10:30:45 AM
Here ya go Tempo! This goes to what Mn is saying above.

https://twitter.com/bearsnationchi/status/1488986270969831425?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 03, 2022, 10:38:16 AM
Bears fan upset that the business owners did not hire, at great expense, a probable headache that nobody else offered a job either.

And that is why Jim Hairball is still at Michigan.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on February 03, 2022, 10:44:16 AM
JFC you really are this dumb. That’s not what I’m saying. There’s always the chance “it could work out.” But having your “first choice” in no way guarantees you chose correctly or that your process was beyond scrutiny.

You don't realize this is what it is like to read whatever JizzJerkoff posts?

https://youtu.be/5hfYJsQAhl0
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 10:54:00 AM
I love the “good ole boys club” on here of Tempo, Robb, and PMan. They think they’re cool and important on here. It’s quite amusing. Again, I’ll refer to them as The Three Stooges of the Cesspool.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 11:51:42 AM
Bears fan upset that the business owners did not hire, at great expense, a probable headache that nobody else offered a job either.

George McCaksey appreciates your concerns over his wallet and fragile psyche.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 11:53:12 AM
I realize that dumbass. They don’t all work out. The point I was making was they got the guys they wanted. Then you tried to refute that by bringing up Nagy and Pace as an example, not me. Some how pointing that out as “evidence” or whatever you want to try and prove some kind of point. So why bring those two up if you weren’t trying to counter my argument?

“They got the guys they wanted.” Because that’s always worked out in the past. You realize we’re talking about the McCaskeys, right?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 11:58:47 AM
To be upfront, I was never much of a “blame the McCaskeys” guy, especially the last 15 years. But after seeing the way they do business yet again, I can see more clearly that their stubbornness and unwillingness to do what might not feel “comfy” for them holds this franchise back. It’s one thing not to get him, but the fact that Harbaugh was apparently never a real consideration says a lot. Yes, it may end up “working out.” But I think the way they went about the majority of this regime change was ass backwards.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 12:33:20 PM
Think about the Bears coaching hires over the last 20 years. What have all of them had in common? They were all very nice gentlemen. Because the McCakseys don’t want a large personality (say Ditkaesque) coming in and being disruptive or critical. They want someone who’s going to drive Virginia to church every morning.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 12:35:12 PM
And again, for transparency, I’m all about the “good guy coach.” But when nice manners is the #1 quality you look for in a coach, it really limits your search. I think Harbaugh is a dbag, no doubt. But I don’t think he’s a bad guy in the Urban Meyer sense.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 03, 2022, 12:47:25 PM
Well you just go ahead and buy yourself a NFL franchise and then you can run it the “right” way or any way you want for that matter. Seems pretty simple to me.

And no, this is in no way an endorsement of the McCaskey’s lol.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 08:50:02 PM
Leftwich rumored to be removing himself from the Jags opening. I’d have been pretty stoked if the Bears had hired him. Thought he’d be an excellent fit for Justin Fields.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on February 04, 2022, 01:36:38 AM
To be upfront, I was never much of a “blame the McCaskeys” guy, especially the last 15 years. But after seeing the way they do business yet again, I can see more clearly that their stubbornness and unwillingness to do what might not feel “comfy” for them holds this franchise back. It’s one thing not to get him, but the fact that Harbaugh was apparently never a real consideration says a lot. Yes, it may end up “working out.” But I think the way they went about the majority of this regime change was ass backwards.

JFC took you long enough
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on February 06, 2022, 09:07:06 PM
https://twitter.com/bearsnationchi/status/1490387758929649672?s=21
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 06, 2022, 11:36:54 PM
Mike McDaniel hired by Miami. Eager to see how he does. I like him, but didn’t want to see that experiment on the Bears.

Lovie in the running for Texans head job.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 06, 2022, 11:37:44 PM
https://twitter.com/bearsnationchi/status/1490387758929649672?s=21

Incomplete.

Excitement level: 3
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 10, 2022, 09:51:11 AM
Eberflus hire gets a D.

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/platform/amp/2022/2/8/22923892/grade-matt-eberflus-hire-chicago-bears-sb-nation-jacksonville-jaguars-indianapolis-colts-ryan-poles
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on February 10, 2022, 10:49:16 AM
Fascinating how one grades a coaching hire before the dude even has his office set up.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on February 10, 2022, 10:50:58 AM
Fascinating how one grades a coaching hire before the dude even has his office set up.

I know right, what a worthless article lol
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on February 10, 2022, 11:48:30 AM
I stopped here ....
.. The hit rate on immediate grades in regards to any sports topic is usually around 1% (trust me the math checks out), but that doesn’t stop anyone from compiling them or complaining about them.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on February 10, 2022, 01:05:31 PM
Pretty sure they’re not grading them on results. Just projections and potential.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 14, 2022, 01:11:38 PM
Bears sign DT Larry Ogunjobi. Had 7 sacks for the Bengals last year.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 14, 2022, 03:08:08 PM
Bears sign DT Larry Ogunjobi. Had 7 sacks for the Bengals last year.

I just put in for SuperBowl tickets on this news!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 14, 2022, 03:18:41 PM
I just put in for SuperBowl tickets on this news!

Hell yeah, brother! No stopping the Bears now.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 17, 2022, 06:49:14 PM
The Bears big FA WR splash.

Say hello to...Equanimeous St. Brown.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 17, 2022, 08:40:14 PM
Oh they signed Byron Pringle too. That's a little better I guess.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 18, 2022, 10:25:04 AM
I like Pringle. I think he was KC’s 2nd best WR.

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 18, 2022, 11:03:43 AM
Bears sign DT Larry Ogunjobi. Had 7 sacks for the Bengals last year.

Not happening anymore. He failed a physical. Oof.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on March 18, 2022, 11:11:23 AM
Not happening anymore. He failed a physical. Oof.

Wow.  That is so Bearsy.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Dominic on March 25, 2022, 10:57:32 AM
Trevor Simian will start for the Bears after Fields is declared a bust.  Mark my words
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 25, 2022, 01:33:41 PM
Trevor Siemian? Get your Super Bowl tickets now! It’s about to go down!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 25, 2022, 01:42:04 PM
And someone here said Ryan Pace was doing a bang up job.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 25, 2022, 07:39:56 PM
Trevor Simian will start for the Bears after Fields is declared a bust.  Mark my words

Eat a cock or twelve.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 25, 2022, 07:43:07 PM
Eat a cock or twelve.

I think Custard might actually be trolling with Dominic in order to drive more traffic. Some of the absurd/controversial shit that come out of his posts can’t actually be real thoughts can they?! Like Custard is actually doing it in hopes of eliciting a response. Just a little theory I have.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on March 25, 2022, 08:50:53 PM
Dominic making the bold prediction of a Bears QB busting.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 25, 2022, 08:52:46 PM
Dominic making the bold prediction of a Bears QB busting.

Not tough with that O line and Fields getting hurt all the time
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on March 25, 2022, 09:48:09 PM
I think Custard might actually be trolling with Dominic in order to drive more traffic. Some of the absurd/controversial shit that come out of his posts can’t actually be real thoughts can they?! Like Custard is actually doing it in hopes of eliciting a response. Just a little theory I have.

(https://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif?noredirect)
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on March 25, 2022, 09:49:56 PM
(https://i.imgur.com/MHuW96t.gif?noredirect)

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 26, 2022, 07:33:33 AM
Not good, Tempo...

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-swarmed-the-notre-dame-pro-day/
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on March 27, 2022, 02:08:41 PM
Not good, Tempo...

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-swarmed-the-notre-dame-pro-day/

What’s not good? What am I missing here?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on March 27, 2022, 02:20:10 PM
What’s not good? What am I missing here?

Notre Dame sucks. Why get more shitty ND players like the TE who sucks?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on April 25, 2022, 04:11:58 PM
wtf

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2022/4/24/23040220/nfl-chicago-bears-byron-pringle-reportedly-arrested-reckless-driving-ryan-poles-free-agency
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 25, 2022, 04:28:50 PM
wtf

https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2022/4/24/23040220/nfl-chicago-bears-byron-pringle-reportedly-arrested-reckless-driving-ryan-poles-free-agency

Some people are just fucking stupid 🤷🏻‍♂️
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 25, 2022, 11:05:56 PM
I just posted about it in the Ryan Poles thread. I’d cut that dude loose ASAP. Poles needs to send the message that knuckleheadism doesn’t fly in Chicago. He’s the perfect guy to make an example out of. One year fairly inexpensive contract. Sends the wrong message if Poles lets him get away with it.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 25, 2022, 11:59:38 PM
I just posted about it in the Ryan Poles thread. I’d cut that dude loose ASAP. Poles needs to send the message that knuckleheadism doesn’t fly in Chicago. He’s the perfect guy to make an example out of. One year fairly inexpensive contract. Sends the wrong message if Poles lets him get away with it.

It's the NFL. If you take that approach you won't have many guys left to field a team.

The guy was doing donuts with a kid in the car (maybe going "wheee" or something, who knows?). He didn't kill, hit, or rape anyone. He was not having pit bulls fight to the death. He didn't invade The Ukraine.

Remember when America was the land of second chances and you had the ability to rebrand yourself and start anew? Let's give this cat a chance to redeem himself, huh?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 10:49:24 AM
The donuts aren’t the issue. He was driving on a suspended license and basically endangering his own child. If he’s dumb enough to do that, he’s probably dumb enough to do something worse.

And part of it is just timing and situation. If it’s a HOF player, sure, you let it slide. This is a one year contract player. Poles has to show that knuckleheads aren’t welcomed here.

And he was confrontational. Fuck him. Knucklehead. See ya.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 12:26:27 PM
The donuts aren’t the issue. He was driving on a suspended license and basically endangering his own child. If he’s dumb enough to do that, he’s probably dumb enough to do something worse.

And part of it is just timing and situation. If it’s a HOF player, sure, you let it slide. This is a one year contract player. Poles has to show that knuckleheads aren’t welcomed here.

And he was confrontational. Fuck him. Knucklehead. See ya.

Was the kid not in a seatbelt?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 04:01:36 PM
Eh.  Given the crimes that most of the NFL guys have committed, dicking around in a car with a suspended license doesn't really move the needle for me all that much.

Sure, it was probably dumb, and he fucked up.  But really, I'm having trouble getting worked up over it.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 05:04:42 PM
Sure, driving recklessly on suspended license, endangering a child, and being confrontational with police, no big deal.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 26, 2022, 05:06:06 PM
So dramatic.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 05:06:47 PM
Poles says “he knows him well, and this is out of character for him.” Sounds like their previous relationship will save Pringle. This is a strike against Poles IMO. Sets a bad precedent early in his tenure as GM.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 05:16:12 PM
Hot take machine.

Stephen A. Tempo
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 05:41:52 PM
Stephen A. Tempo

That's funny.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 06:13:38 PM
How’s that funny? He’s said funny things before. That isn’t one of them.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 06:15:04 PM
I’ll try and be more careful and have takes that appeal more to Jobu.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 06:16:27 PM
So dramatic.

Dude is a one year contract player. I’d rather not have players that endanger kids, drive recklessly on suspended licenses, and get belligerent with police. Especially when they aren’t future HOFers. YMMV
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 06:21:17 PM
Dude is a one year contract player. I’d rather not have players that endanger kids, drive recklessly on suspended licenses, and get belligerent with police. Especially when they aren’t future HOFers. YMMV

Jeez. Of all the things to be freaking out about…

Endangering kids. Jesus Christ, I remember actually standing up in the back seat and walking around in it while the car was speeding down the road. When my dad was driving. And it was fun when he decided to see how fast the car would go.

Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 06:35:55 PM
I’ll try and be more careful and have takes that appeal more to Jobu.

It is enjoyable when you have hot takes as Steven A. Tempo though.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 06:36:47 PM
Basically, I’m mostly saying that not every little thing a Bear player does has to be a steaming hot take. I acknowledged the dude fucked up. But on the grand scheme, not a huge deal.

How many convicted felons do you think are in the NFL?

If you’re mad about me calling you Stephen A Tempo, I don’t care. Stop acting like that, and I won’t. This isn’t the fucking Score or Twitter.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 06:37:13 PM
Jeez. Of all the things to be freaking out about…

Endangering kids. Jesus Christ, I remember actually standing up in the back seat and walking around in it while the car was speeding down the road. When my dad was driving. And it was fun when he decided to see how fast the car would go.

Tempo supported your dad being cut from the Bears.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 06:37:59 PM
Dude is a one year contract player. I’d rather not have players that endanger kids, drive recklessly on suspended licenses, and get belligerent with police. Especially when they aren’t future HOFers. YMMV

If you’re so outraged about kids being endangered, it shouldn’t matter if he’s a future hall of famer or not.

God damn, man.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 06:38:12 PM
Basically, I’m mostly saying that not every little thing a Bear player does has to be a steaming hot take. I acknowledged the dude fucked up. But on the grand scheme, not a huge deal.

How many convicted felons do you think are in the NFL?

If you’re mad about me calling you Stephen A Tempo, I don’t care. Stop acting like that, and I won’t. This isn’t the fucking Score or Twitter.

He is a fan of Dan Bernstein.
Tempo Bernstein?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 06:38:42 PM
Tempo supported your dad being cut from the Bears.

True. Took food out of our mouths.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 06:40:50 PM
True. Took food out of our mouths.

Which led to you faking your death and Spark's meltdown. Man, your dad really fucked up that day.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 06:44:12 PM
Which led to you faking your death and Spark's meltdown. Man, your dad really fucked up that day.

Hadn’t really thought of it that way, but you’re right.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 06:45:23 PM
I just hope the miscreant that is Byron Pringle can get his shit together before it’s too late. I mean, fuck. Think of the children!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 06:45:48 PM
Hadn’t really thought of it that way, but you’re right.

Well, I hope things are going better for you, and Spark.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 06:48:57 PM
Well, I hope things are going better for you, and Spark.

Yeah, going better. Thanks.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 06:58:43 PM
Jeez. Of all the things to be freaking out about…

Endangering kids. Jesus Christ, I remember actually standing up in the back seat and walking around in it while the car was speeding down the road. When my dad was driving. And it was fun when he decided to see how fast the car would go.

A little more cool when your dad isn’t arrested and belligerent though. And at least has a valid license.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 06:59:57 PM
Basically, I’m mostly saying that not every little thing a Bear player does has to be a steaming hot take. I acknowledged the dude fucked up. But on the grand scheme, not a huge deal.

How many convicted felons do you think are in the NFL?

If you’re mad about me calling you Stephen A Tempo, I don’t care. Stop acting like that, and I won’t. This isn’t the fucking Score or Twitter.

Ok, Take Police.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 07:01:15 PM
A little more cool when your dad isn’t arrested and belligerent though. And at least has a valid license.

Eh. Maybe it was a racist cop. Who knows.

My point, mostly, is no biggie. If he fucks up again, sure. Seems minor to me.

We can disagree. And the take doesn’t have to be so fucking hot. That’s all I’m saying
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 07:02:01 PM
Ok, Take Police.

You should craft a parody song about Jobu to the Cheap Trick song "Dream Police" called "Take Police."
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 07:02:12 PM
Ok, Take Police.

Sure. I’ll wear that. I think hot take bullshit is stupid. Sorry not sorry
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 07:04:12 PM
If you’re so outraged about kids being endangered, it shouldn’t matter if he’s a future hall of famer or not.

God damn, man.

It’s bad that a dad would put his kid in a potentially dangerous situation, and also in a position to see his dad arrested; but to me, looking at it from the perspective of a first year GM it’s a chance to send the entire team a message. And if it means lopping off the head of a fringe starter on a one year contract, that’s a sacrifice worth making.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 07:05:19 PM
It’s bad that a dad would put his kid in a potentially dangerous situation, and also in a position to see his dad arrested; but to me, looking at it from the perspective of a first year GM it’s a chance to send the entire team a message. And if it means lopping off the head of a fringe starter on a one year contract, that’s a sacrifice worth making.

Until he goes to the Packer and lights up the Bear...
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 07:10:20 PM
To me it’s similar to the Ray MacDonald signing. Made no sense because he was a trouble maker (clearly with a worse history than Pringle) but the Bears weren’t a Ray MacDonald away from contending for the Super Bowl. Just bad judgement by Pace (who was probably influenced by Vic Fangio), but ultimately it’s the GMs job to ensure that the roster isn’t full of knuckleheads and bad guys.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 07:12:20 PM
I think looking at it from the perspective “he was just doing donuts” is missing a lot of the important parts of what occurred.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 26, 2022, 07:29:57 PM
Cool. I feel like it’s way different from the Ray McDonald signing. We can certainly agree to disagree on this one.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on April 26, 2022, 08:06:17 PM
And we know he was belligerent how?  From the police? 

Did they yell STOP RESISTING!! as they beat the shit out of him?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 08:11:31 PM
And we know he was belligerent how?  From the police? 

Did they yell STOP RESISTING!! as they beat the shit out of him?

Surprised Tempo didn't even think about that. Just trusts the police's version! Where is the right to Due Process before judging?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 08:26:34 PM
He was arrested for reckless driving with a suspended license in an 800 horsepower vehicle with his child in the car. Sounds like a dumbass to me. Even though I’m not a fan of the policing in America, I have no reason to believe they aren’t telling the truth in that he was confrontational.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 26, 2022, 08:29:08 PM
“Suspended,” which means it’s not his first case of being stupid. He’s a fringe player. Average quality starter probably at best. Zero problem with making an example out of him.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 26, 2022, 11:05:24 PM
“Suspended,” which means it’s not his first case of being stupid. He’s a fringe player. Average quality starter probably at best. Zero problem with making an example out of him.

He's not an animal. He's a human being.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 07:11:25 AM
Stephen A. hates the police, until it affects his narrative.

I wonder how many NFL players have a suspended license and drive anyway.

Stephen A. acts like Pringle is Henry Ruggs. Lol

Pringle fucked up and got caught. He’ll get a fine, pay it, and that’ll be the end of it.

Guessing the players union also might have an issue with cutting a guy for getting a misdemeanor. Lol
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on April 27, 2022, 07:28:39 AM
It amazes me the lengths some folk will go to get outraged.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 07:35:03 AM
Stephen A. hates the police, until it affects his narrative.

I wonder how many NFL players have a suspended license and drive anyway.

Stephen A. acts like Pringle is Henry Ruggs. Lol

Pringle fucked up and got caught. He’ll get a fine, pay it, and that’ll be the end of it.

Guessing the players union also might have an issue with cutting a guy for getting a misdemeanor. Lol

You’re an idiot.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 07:36:04 AM
It amazes me the lengths some folk will go to get outraged.

Not outraged. Rather calm, actually. It has very little affect (i.e. none) on my life.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 07:37:53 AM
You’re an idiot.

Ok.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 07:38:36 AM
So, if we’re talking child endangerment, this mother fucker should be in jail.

https://twitter.com/reds/status/1519110931468500994?s=21&t=9ousZxpsZ2l3bljBfRFYpQ
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 07:40:59 AM
So, if we’re talking child endangerment, this mother fucker should be in jail.

https://twitter.com/reds/status/1519110931468500994?s=21&t=9ousZxpsZ2l3bljBfRFYpQ

You really are an idiot.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 07:42:16 AM
The primary difference between Henry Ruggs and Byron Pringle is that no one got hurt. Doesn’t lessen the stupidity of doing donuts on a highway in an 800 horsepower vehicle with a child in the car and then getting belligerent with police.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 07:43:57 AM
Ok. Well, I’m done talking to someone that has called me an idiot twice today because we disagree.

Have a good day.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 07:47:20 AM
Ok. Well, I’m done talking to someone that has called me an idiot twice today because we disagree.

Have a good day.

Stephen A. thinks you’re an idiot too.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 07:49:21 AM
Good. Stay classy, big fella.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 07:59:13 AM
Good. Stay classy, big fella.

It’s a pattern I’ve seen with you many times over the years. You’re like the kid that fucks with the kid in front of him in class and then acts incredulous when the kid turns around returns the favor. It’s something you’ve done many times.

And if you think having a foul ball hit at you is the same thing as putting your kid in an 800 horsepower vehicle and doing donuts on suspended license on a highway, well, you just may actually be a real idiot.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2022, 09:08:27 AM
So, if we’re talking child endangerment, this mother fucker should be in jail.

https://twitter.com/reds/status/1519110931468500994?s=21&t=9ousZxpsZ2l3bljBfRFYpQ

LoL
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2022, 09:10:29 AM
It’s a pattern I’ve seen with you many times over the years. You’re like the kid that fucks with the kid in front of him in class and then acts incredulous when the kid turns around returns the favor. It’s something you’ve done many times.

And if you think having a foul ball hit at you is the same thing as putting your kid in an 800 horsepower vehicle and doing donuts on suspended license on a highway, well, you just may actually be a real idiot.

Well, it is not as dumb as walking on the highway at night and getting hit by a dump truck.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 10:40:55 AM
Well, it is not as dumb as walking on the highway at night and getting hit by a dump truck.

He was walking because he apparently ran out of gas. It happens.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 11:13:34 AM
It’s a pattern I’ve seen with you many times over the years. You’re like the kid that fucks with the kid in front of him in class and then acts incredulous when the kid turns around returns the favor. It’s something you’ve done many times.

And if you think having a foul ball hit at you is the same thing as putting your kid in an 800 horsepower vehicle and doing donuts on suspended license on a highway, well, you just may actually be a real idiot.

Haha, of course I don't think it's the same.  And, I didn't say that.  I posted that tweet as a joke.  Although, if I had a baby on my lap, and a foul ball was coming at me, I probably would have tried to get the eff out of the way, lol.   

Pringle definitely fucked up.  Never said he didn't.  What he did was definitely dangerous.  I just don't think it's worthy of being cut from the team.  We disagree.  It happens.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2022, 12:11:55 PM
He was walking because he apparently ran out of gas. It happens.

In 2022? How does that happen? Was his gas gauge broken? If so, don't you use your alternate odometer readings to track how many miles you went on the current tank of gas so you know if you are getting close to needing to fill up? Seems odd.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 27, 2022, 12:13:24 PM
Haha, of course I don't think it's the same.  And, I didn't say that.  I posted that tweet as a joke.  Although, if I had a baby on my lap, and a foul ball was coming at me, I probably would have tried to get the eff out of the way, lol.   

Pringle definitely fucked up.  Never said he didn't.  What he did was definitely dangerous.  I just don't think it's worthy of being cut from the team.  We disagree.  It happens.
Unless you're a no count fringe player.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2022, 12:15:40 PM
Unless you're a no count fringe player.

They get the death penalty.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on April 27, 2022, 12:37:35 PM
Tempo, who is Poles going to pick in the 1st round this weekend? The draft is the weekend, right?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 01:34:49 PM
Tempo, who is Poles going to pick in the 1st round this weekend? The draft is the weekend, right?

No one.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 01:36:11 PM
Unless you're a no count fringe player.

Yes, fringe players get less leeway. Would be stupid to think they don’t. If  Pringle were a sure fire HOFer you over look this. Not saying it’s fair, it is what it is.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 01:37:20 PM
In 2022? How does that happen? Was his gas gauge broken? If so, don't you use your alternate odometer readings to track how many miles you went on the current tank of gas so you know if you are getting close to needing to fill up? Seems odd.

Not saying it’s not kind of dumb. It just happens. I had to run gas to a neighbor a few months ago when she ran out in her luxury SUV.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 01:38:30 PM
Haha, of course I don't think it's the same.  And, I didn't say that.  I posted that tweet as a joke.  Although, if I had a baby on my lap, and a foul ball was coming at me, I probably would have tried to get the eff out of the way, lol.   

Pringle definitely fucked up.  Never said he didn't.  What he did was definitely dangerous.  I just don't think it's worthy of being cut from the team.  We disagree.  It happens.

If you insult someone, don’t be alarmed or surprised when they insult you back. Pretty simple.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 27, 2022, 02:03:53 PM
If you insult someone, don’t be alarmed or surprised when they insult you back. Pretty simple.

Words to live by. I can see Tempo at home right now…

https://youtu.be/9OR9KzolAM8
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on April 27, 2022, 02:14:56 PM
Tempo, who is Poles going to pick in the 1st round this weekend? The draft is the weekend, right?
Nobody picks in the 1st round this weekend.
The Bears will be sitting idly by while everybody else is making their 1st round picks tomorrow.
Unless, maybe they can swap Pringle for a 1st rounder.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 02:37:18 PM
If you insult someone, don’t be alarmed or surprised when they insult you back. Pretty simple.

Fair enough.

If you felt insulted by me calling you Stephen A. Tempo, I apologize.  I honestly didn't expect you to react negatively to it, given your penchant for spewing the takes, and let's be honest, that dude has made a shit-ton of money spewing bs on the mothership.  Hell, I figured you would take it as a complement.

Sorry, Tempo.  My bad.  I'll keep the jokes and the silly bullshit out of our conversations, since you can't seem to handle it.  And, I didn't really care about you calling me an idiot.  I know how to consider the source on such things.

Have a good rest of your day.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 02:45:12 PM
Yes, fringe players get less leeway. Would be stupid to think they don’t. If  Pringle were a sure fire HOFer you over look this. Not saying it’s fair, it is what it is.

Then maybe stop with the whole "think about the children" and "OMG, he was mean to cops!" bullshit.

Yes, the dude fucked up.  You don't launch a dude because he's not a "hall of famer."

Let's think about this for a second.  What if a 6th round QB that you took a flyer on went out and dicked around in a car and got picked up by the cops.  6th rounder.  Someone you could probably do without.  I mean, how many 6th round QBs amount to anything?

Only one.  Tom Brady.

What if he made a shitty decision one night, fucked up, but did something relatively harmless and didn't hurt anyone? Sounds like a knucklehead.  And, by the Tempo standard, someone like this gets cut.  Fuck that guy, we don't want knuckleheads.

You would have cut a HOF quarterback that day.

And before you say it, and repeat it a million times, I am not comparing Tom Brady to Byron Pringle.  So, don't even go there.  I'm just saying.  6th round.  Behind an established QB in Bledsoe.  Goes out one night and dicks around in a car, his kid that he likes to kiss on the lips is in the back seat, laughing and carrying on, then oh shit.  Cops. 

Fuck Tom Brady.  6th round unimportant piece of shit reckless driver.  Launch him.  lol
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 27, 2022, 03:02:37 PM
And before you say it, and repeat it a million times, I am not comparing Tom Brady to Byron Pringle.  So, don't even go there.

Oh this is good. It’s good because you know that was EXACTLY where he was gonna go
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Chickengeorge on April 27, 2022, 03:12:33 PM
Oh this is good. It’s good because you know that was EXACTLY where he was gonna go

He still will.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:20:30 PM
He still will.

Yes.  Just like when he went off and said I was equating Pringle with the dude catching the ball.  It was obvious that was coming.

Doesn't matter.  If we cut Byron Pringle for this, we're gonna have to look for a whole new team quickly. 
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:22:54 PM
Oh this is good. It’s good because you know that was EXACTLY where he was gonna go

Oh, he will.  And he'll call me an idiot or something.  And make like 7 or 8 one liner posts in a row.

We all know.

Cut Byron Pringle for fucking up, but keep good players when they fuck up.  And support that line of thinking.  That's interesting.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:27:27 PM
Leave it to Jobu to issue an “apology” and fill it with drivel and more insults.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:28:25 PM
Leave it to Jobu to issue an “apology” and fill it with drivel and more insults.

What insults? I didn't insult you.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:29:57 PM
You called me an idiot at least 3 times today.  So, maybe stop with the playing the victim bullshit.

But that's part of your internet persona.  So, carry on I guess.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:32:39 PM
Lol Jesus, one “apology”‘post and he becomes unhinged before I can even respond. Prime Jobu we’re seeing here.

And yes, a 28 year old backup WR might become the next Tom Brady (or something). So can’t cut him for effing up. Brilliant analysis. Please sign me up for your news article.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:34:26 PM
You called me an idiot at least 3 times today.  So, maybe stop with the playing the victim bullshit.

But that's part of your internet persona.  So, carry on I guess.

I’m about 99.9% sure you insulted me before I insulted you.

“Since Stephen A is rich, thought you might take it as a compliment.” JFC you’re hilarious.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:35:48 PM
What insults? I didn't insult you.

JFC go read your “apology” again you dimwit. No wonder this happens so often…you’re utterly clueless to how you talk to people.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:43:04 PM
Tell ya what, Tempo.  Take this as an insult or however you want.  I don't care at this point.

This might get a little long for you, so I don't expect you to finish reading it, but I'm gonna go ahead and put it out there anyway.

I'm gonna go ahead, at this stage in the game, let Ryan Poles do his GM-ing for the Bears.  And I'm gonna go ahead and trust him, because at this point I have no reason not to.  If he says Pringle is cool, fine.  I know Pringle made a shitty decision and fucked up, etc., but I'm gonna go ahead and watch and see what happens.  If Pringle turns out to be a complete douche and can't play, or keeps doing stupid shit and getting in trouble, welp.  Cool.  We can evaluate all that later.

This is gonna be a rough year for the Bears.  They have pretty shitty players for the most part, and Pace left them with not much in the way of draft capital or possibilities of trades.  So Poles has his work cut out for him.  I'm interested in seeing how he does.  So far, this past offseason was underwhelming, but it is what it is at this point.  Not sure what else he could have done.  I'm not going to judge him on Pringle dicking around in a car. 

Now, that's how I feel about the whole Poles and Eberflus and the Bears crap.  They've sucked for so long, I'm interested in seeing what happens now.  And I'm not trying to get out in front of it all by saying "OMG Poles fucked up, launch Pringle, Jesus Christ" Chicago meathead bullshit.  Let's see what happens on the field.

When I'm looking for an artery clogging, greasy, awful bloomin onion, or a tough, mediocre at best steak that is cooked to fuck medium well when I asked for it medium rare, I'll be sure to come to you.  But, for now, I'll leave the Bears stuff to Poles and Eberflus.  And when they eventually fuck up, or win a damn super bowl, I'll be there one way or another.

If you feel like this post was too personal or insulting to you, tough shit.  I don't care, and go fuck yourself. 

Have a nice evening.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:43:54 PM
Lol Jesus, one “apology”‘post and he becomes unhinged before I can even respond. Prime Jobu we’re seeing here.

And yes, a 28 year old backup WR might become the next Tom Brady (or something). So can’t cut him for effing up. Brilliant analysis. Please sign me up for your news article.

Unhinged.  Lol.  Ok.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:44:30 PM
What insults? I didn't insult you.

“I’ll try and leave ‘the jokes’ out because I know you can’t handle it.”

Yes, very sincere sounding “apology.” And then you ripped me again before I even responded.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:45:21 PM
JFC go read your “apology” again you dimwit. No wonder this happens so often…you’re utterly clueless to how you talk to people.

Yes.  This is coming from someone who calls people idiots.  If I want lessons on how to talk to people, I'll go somewhere else.

You have issues, dude.  Get some therapy.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:46:24 PM
Oh this is good. It’s good because you know that was EXACTLY where he was gonna go

Yes, I was likely to mention it to point out that absurdity of saying a 28 year old fringe starter could become a multiple time MVP caliber player. Some real rocket scientists posting here.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:47:33 PM
“I’ll try and leave ‘the jokes’ out because I know you can’t handle it.”

Yes, very sincere sounding “apology.” And then you ripped me again before I even responded.

That's not an insult.  That's a fact.  You can't handle jokes.  It's well documented.

Don't bitch about getting ripped when you call people idiots.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:48:29 PM
Yes.  This is coming from someone who calls people idiots.  If I want lessons on how to talk to people, I'll go somewhere else.

You have issues, dude.  Get some therapy.

I only called you an idiot after you insulted me (twice I think). Not saying I’ve never initiated anything, but at least I don’t act like I didn’t do anything wrong. You’re the one crying here, not me.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:49:10 PM
Yes, I was likely to mention it to point out that absurdity of saying a 28 year old fringe starter could become a multiple time MVP caliber player. Some real rocket scientists posting here.

What if Tom Brady would have done what Pringle did, when we all had no clue that he was arguably the best QB that ever lived?

Of course, I don't think Pringle is that.  He's a guy.  But going off of your standards, you would have launched Tom Brady off of your team.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:50:26 PM
That's not an insult.  That's a fact.  You can't handle jokes.  It's well documented.

Don't bitch about getting ripped when you call people idiots.

Again, you hurled the first insult (“he’s rich so I thought you’d take it as a compliment” is just so hilariously pathetic). Own the fact that you’re a dick, and expect to be talked back to accordingly.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:50:43 PM
I only called you an idiot after you insulted me (twice I think). Not saying I’ve never initiated anything, but at least I don’t act like I didn’t do anything wrong. You’re the one crying here, not me.

I called you Stephen A.  And I apologized.  I really didn't think it would piss you off like that. 

And, you didn't call me an idiot because of the insults (perceived or not). You called me an idiot because I wasn't agreeing with you.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:52:01 PM
Again, you hurled the first insult (“he’s rich so I thought you’d take it as a compliment” is just so hilariously pathetic). Own the fact that you’re a dick, and expect to be talked back to accordingly.

Oh, I'm definitely a dick.  I'll own that 100%.  Again, I didn't think you would take it so personally.

My bad.  If you were insulted by it, I'm sorry.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:52:45 PM
What if Tom Brady would have done what Pringle did, when we all had no clue that he was arguably the best QB that ever lived?

Of course, I don't think Pringle is that.  He's a guy.  But going off of your standards, you would have launched Tom Brady off of your team.

“What about that once (if you’re lucky) in a generation aberration that could happen if you cut him?” That’s your reason for retaining him? Again, he’s not even a young player. He’s 28. Nearing ancient by NFL standards.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:53:03 PM
This thread has been fucked up enough, by my estimation.  Should we squash it?

Or do you want to keep going? I really don't want to keep going.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:54:44 PM
I called you Stephen A.  And I apologized.  I really didn't think it would piss you off like that. 

And, you didn't call me an idiot because of the insults (perceived or not). You called me an idiot because I wasn't agreeing with you.

Other people were disagreeing with me. Did I call them idiots? Yeah, the “Stephen A Tempo” insults got under my skin. So congrats on that, I guess.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:55:43 PM
“What about that once (if you’re lucky) in a generation aberration that could happen if you cut him?” That’s your reason for retaining him? Again, he’s not even a young player. He’s 28. Nearing ancient by NFL standards.

My reason for retaining him is that the Bears are really shitty in the talent department, and cutting a guy that could help for a misdemeanor seems like a bad move to me.

Is Pringle great? Probably not.  But one thing I noticed when watching Chiefs football this past year, I found myself saying "God damn, this team has a shitload of wideouts." and Pringle was one of the dudes I noticed getting the ball.

He may suck.  No doubt.  But he might be really good.  Fair?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:56:07 PM
Stephen A. hates the police, until it affects his narrative.

I wonder how many NFL players have a suspended license and drive anyway.

Stephen A. acts like Pringle is Henry Ruggs. Lol

Pringle fucked up and got caught. He’ll get a fine, pay it, and that’ll be the end of it.

Guessing the players union also might have an issue with cutting a guy for getting a misdemeanor. Lol

Read this post and ask me how I’m supposed to take this as “a joke.”
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 03:57:54 PM
My reason for retaining him is that the Bears are really shitty in the talent department, and cutting a guy that could help for a misdemeanor seems like a bad move to me.

Is Pringle great? Probably not.  But one thing I noticed when watching Chiefs football this past year, I found myself saying "God damn, this team has a shitload of wideouts." and Pringle was one of the dudes I noticed getting the ball.

He may suck.  No doubt.  But he might be really good.  Fair?

I was actually a fan of the signing. I’m also not averse to making an example of a guy not likely to be an important part of a SB winning team. Sometimes there needs to be a fall guy.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 03:59:00 PM
Other people were disagreeing with me. Did I call them idiots? Yeah, the “Stephen A Tempo” insults got under my skin. So congrats on that, I guess.

Well, I am sorry.  I didn't anticipate that reaction.  It was just me being silly and joking about the whole hot takey culture we live in.  It seems like I was taking it to a personal level, and I didn't intend to.  Again, I didn't think you would get that angry, but I can see that I wasn't cool by saying that.

Again, I apologize.  Sincerely.  I won't go there again.  Fair?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 04:03:44 PM
Well, I am sorry.  I didn't anticipate that reaction.  It was just me being silly and joking about the whole hot takey culture we live in.  It seems like I was taking it to a personal level, and I didn't intend to.  Again, I didn't think you would get that angry, but I can see that I wasn't cool by saying that.

Again, I apologize.  Sincerely.  I won't go there again.  Fair?

I suppose the “Stephen A hates the cops until it suits his narrative” is what triggered me the most. Thought that was unnecessary.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 04:04:22 PM
I was actually a fan of the signing. I’m also not averse to making an example of a guy not likely to be an important part of a SB winning team. Sometimes there needs to be a fall guy.

Make him an example.  So show guys that if they fuck up once, they're gone.

Hmmm.  Not sure how guys would take that, especially guys that have spent a lot of time in bad neighborhoods and in the court system, but you could try that, I guess.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 04:05:36 PM
I suppose the “Stephen A hates the cops until it suits his narrative” is what triggered me the most. Thought that was unnecessary.

Ok.  Fair enough.  I don't think I was coming totally out of left field on that, but ok.

Let's squash it. 
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 04:07:53 PM
My reason for retaining him is that the Bears are really shitty in the talent department, and cutting a guy that could help for a misdemeanor seems like a bad move to me.

Is Pringle great? Probably not.  But one thing I noticed when watching Chiefs football this past year, I found myself saying "God damn, this team has a shitload of wideouts." and Pringle was one of the dudes I noticed getting the ball.

He may suck.  No doubt.  But he might be really good.  Fair?

Again, it might be Machiavellian, but I’m not averse to a new GM setting the tone and establishing a culture. And having one of his FA signees in the news for being stupid isn’t a “good look” for lack of a better way to put it. I’m not asking for a team full of Boy Scouts, I’m asking for the GM to send a message that if you’re a knucklehead, you won’t be around long. Pringle is unlikely to be a difference maker for us, especially long-term. But as I said, I initially liked the signing.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 04:11:39 PM
And I think that message looks even stronger if it’s a player he brought in. I want a no-nonsense GM. That’s all I want.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 04:19:19 PM
So to be clear, my opinion is based primarily on wanting Poles to set a precedent and an expectation more than “punishing” Pringle. Unlucky for Pringle, but he’s expendable in my book.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 04:23:46 PM
Don’t like that the first year GM is sending the message that you can make him look foolish and that’s ok.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 04:32:07 PM
I don't think Byron Pringle made Poles look foolish at all. 

Now, I will say, if Eddie Jackson did that, yes, launch the mother fucker.  I would at least like to see what Pringle can do.

Ideally, we would all like to see super talented players on our team that also go to church, had 4.0 GPAs, and have zero criminal activity in their background.  But that's not the NFL.

I'm not going to change your mind, and you're not going to change mine.  You want Pringle gone.  I don't.  That's it.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 04:39:26 PM
Again, it’s not that I want “Pringle gone.” I want Poles to send the message he doesn’t fuck around. I want some fear struck into the heart of the team. I’m fine with launching another teams’ reject if it means getting the teams’ attention.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 04:45:19 PM
Fear struck into the heart of the team.  Jeez.

I want players that can play.  Preferably that don't commit felonies.  If a guy does something stupid with a car, chew his ass out, and tell him to quit being a moron.  If it happens again, launch him.

Cut a dude for fucking up once, under your watch? You look like a fucking asshole.  NFL players, I'm guessing, don't want to play for a fucking asshole.

Again, I get establishing a culture.  I'm all for running things with decent citizens.  But cutting a dude and swinging the pendulum too far could be counter productive.

Poles may have made a mistake here.  But he may not have.  I don't know, and neither do you.  Can you at least allow for that?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 05:14:39 PM
I have an opinion, you have an opinion; and I’m fine with leaving it at that. But yeah, sure, could be a nothingburger. Probably will.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Jobu on April 27, 2022, 05:22:20 PM
Ok. Cool.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on April 27, 2022, 05:36:05 PM
Again, it’s not that I want “Pringle gone.” I want Poles to send the message he doesn’t fuck around. I want some fear struck into the heart of the team. I’m fine with launching another teams’ reject if it means getting the teams’ attention.

Maybe he can give him a nice yelling at
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 27, 2022, 05:41:42 PM
Maybe he can give him a nice yelling at

Well Poles is black, so he can get away with that type of behavior in Tempo’s eyes. Underwood… nah.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 05:54:59 PM
Well Poles is black, so he can get away with that type of behavior in Tempo’s eyes. Underwood… nah.

Speaking of idiots…
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 05:55:50 PM
Maybe he can give him a nice yelling at

If not cut, at least a spanking in front of the team.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on April 27, 2022, 06:16:18 PM
Speaking of idiots…

Oh tell me what I said isn’t true though.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on April 27, 2022, 06:28:16 PM
Oh tell me what I said isn’t true though.

I’ll just call your comment idiotic, and leave it at that.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on April 30, 2022, 11:54:29 PM
Bears cut Nick Foles. Superbowl chances just went to shit.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 01, 2022, 08:06:40 AM
I did a quick goggle on team draft grades. I must say that I did not look at the number of the Twitter followers for either expert tho.
The NFL.com guy gave A and B grades to everybody but 4 teams with a C. The Bears and Vikings both with an A-.
The SBNation guy gave out 13 C or worse, with 4 teams getting a D. The Bears with a C- and the Vikings with the only F.
The new Vikings GM comparing his 1st draft to his experience on Wall Street as a commodities trader, " There's like, a humility that I have because you spent half of your week being wrong."
The end.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on May 11, 2022, 09:15:04 PM
Tempo, Bears sign Peterman. You stoked about Poles still?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2022, 05:35:24 PM
I’m stoked to have Pace and Nagy gone. Not sure I ever said I was “stoked” about Poles. Don’t see his 3rd string QB signing in his first year as GM as any referendum though.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on May 12, 2022, 05:38:43 PM
I’m stoked to have Pace and Nagy gone. Not sure I ever said I was “stoked” about Poles. Don’t see his 3rd string QB signing in his first year as GM as any referendum though.

Did you see that article reporting that other NFL executives thought Eberflus took over the draft because they picked D men early instead of getting Fields help? No clue how much stock to put into it, but would be interested in your thoughts.

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/nfl-exec-believes-matt-eberflus-sabotaged-bears-draft-approach/

Also, when Golf comes to Chicago this summer (as he threatened), you going to go to a Sox game with us?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on May 12, 2022, 10:37:56 PM
Don’t put much stock in it.

As far as Sox game, won’t rule it out, but I doubt it.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: IlliniGolf on May 12, 2022, 11:24:40 PM
Tempo wasn’t invited !

97 and spark are welcome however

!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on May 12, 2022, 11:26:50 PM
The exclamation points almost give me a seizure
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on May 13, 2022, 12:10:35 AM
Tempo wasn’t invited !

97 and spark are welcome however

!

What about McLassie?
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on May 21, 2022, 10:02:50 PM
Tempo!

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/20/chicago-bears-rated-worst-team-in-nfl-ahead-of-2022-season/
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on May 22, 2022, 07:38:27 AM
Tempo!

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/05/20/chicago-bears-rated-worst-team-in-nfl-ahead-of-2022-season/
I read one yesterday that said the Bears were going to rely on their run game so that Fields could throw more screen passes because Mahomes threw screens at twice the rate of Fields last year.
 
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on May 24, 2022, 12:01:46 PM
Tempo!

Rumors of Roquan Smith issues swirling around out there on The Internets!
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on May 28, 2022, 12:53:17 AM
Like what?

Not that I don’t like Roquan, but I’d have tried to deal him and drafted Nakobi Dean 3rd round when he fell.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on May 28, 2022, 07:13:21 AM
Like what?

Not that I don’t like Roquan, but I’d have tried to deal him and drafted Nakobi Dean 3rd round when he fell.

That he assaulted a lady. Does not seem much has come from it (yet?).
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Judge Judy on June 02, 2022, 07:05:27 PM
Marion Barber dead at 38. Damn that’s sad.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/34021540/former-dallas-cowboys-chicago-bears-running-back-marion-barber-iii-dies-age-38
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on June 07, 2022, 01:36:44 PM
The Eberflus era is off to a fine start

https://bearswire.usatoday.com/2022/06/07/chicago-bears-violate-cba-rules-live-contact-offseason-practice-matt-eberflus/
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on June 07, 2022, 02:40:47 PM
Clown show
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on June 07, 2022, 04:51:40 PM
I applaud them having contact drills. However, it looks like they hide their cheating as poorly as Illinois has in its past.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on June 20, 2022, 10:38:42 PM
Hey, Tempo! This article claims the Bear has problems financing an Arlington Heights stadium!

https://www.sportsmockery.com/chicago-bears/chicago-bears-face-a-significant-roadblock-to-a-new-stadium/
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on June 20, 2022, 10:45:15 PM
yeah why should these rich fucks have to pay for their own stadiums, make the working people that have to pay taxes already fund it
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on July 07, 2022, 05:11:58 PM
So how many more Bears will get arrested before training camp? Over/under set at 2.5
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 11, 2022, 09:53:34 PM
So how many more Bears will get arrested before training camp? Over/under set at 2.5

Hmm. It is July.
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Custard on July 11, 2022, 11:13:22 PM
Clown show
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ThePAMan on July 29, 2022, 10:12:45 PM
Tempo, thoughts??

https://ontapsportsnet.com/2022/07/28/chicago-soldier-field-savior-shad-khan-jacksonville-jaguars-potential-move/
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: ILLove1997 on July 30, 2022, 11:39:22 AM
Chicago Jags is apt
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Miles Leonard on August 09, 2022, 04:14:23 PM
Roquan Smith wants out.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1556984729148301312
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 14, 2022, 02:26:39 PM
Roquan Smith wants out.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1556984729148301312

Don’t think he wants out, just playing his cards aggressively (probably to his detriment).
Title: Re: 2022 Bears
Post by: Reacher on August 14, 2023, 03:01:23 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/KYbHjVvs/53703426-B7-BA-458-B-A6-A4-AE73-C9-D7-EDE2.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/K19Ns0Tn)

WTF if they hire Fitzgerald I will be pissed. I like the odds on Daboll. Pederson odds good, too.

Lol wow