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Title: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: frankiew on April 07, 2020, 02:23:25 PM
No agent though so he can return

No way he actually declares right?
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: ILLove1997 on April 07, 2020, 04:28:29 PM
doubt he goes unless he's a surefire 1st rounder but who knows these days
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: frankiew on April 07, 2020, 04:55:13 PM
If we lose Kofi, Ayo, Griffin, Feliz all in one off season no we we make tourney next year
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: Custard on April 07, 2020, 05:36:08 PM
Everything I care about is dying
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: ILLove1997 on April 07, 2020, 05:58:21 PM
Everything I care about is dying

worst part is that we couldn't even see what the team was capable of... we got stopped short!

fuck
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: frankiew on April 07, 2020, 07:17:19 PM
I just can't see Kofi going but whatever, this is what college ball has come to
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: Lkdog on April 07, 2020, 10:27:35 PM
Kofi is not on any draft boards that I have looked at, but that could change.
Ayo is only on a couple who have him in second round.

Hard to say, they both might think it is better to be in the G league and try and develop than play another year of college.

Kofi has no outside shot at all and needs to learn how to guard in space.
Ayo can't shoot the threeball but might contribute in the right system.

How will the NBA even do workouts and camps? That is where guys like Kofi and Ayo get on the radar.





Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: ThePAMan on April 08, 2020, 03:54:10 AM
Or, he's hearing there may not be a college season next year so may as well declare now?
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: Jrock74 on April 08, 2020, 05:40:00 AM
I highly doubt there is a complete college basketball season for next year.  that being said the NBA made an announcement yesterday that there will be no combine or special workouts with any teams this year and that the 2020 draft will be unique on its own from all the others in the past.

Also judging by the letter that Kofi wrote to the fans I highly doubt he comes back for any reason.
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: Custard on April 08, 2020, 07:51:19 AM
Cuz Illinois
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: illinicalvin on April 08, 2020, 08:13:35 AM
It would be a dumb move on his part unless he's getting feedback that there's money in Europe waiting, etc. He ain't on a league roster next year.

The letter comes off as if it's final, like he may not even be doing coursework final. And all these letters look the same so it looks as genuine as when my favorite fast food joint sends me a "hey, we care about you during the zombie apocalypse" email.
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: Jrock74 on April 08, 2020, 09:12:13 AM
Guess we'll know for sure on June 3rd
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: illinifan57 on April 10, 2020, 09:44:41 AM
Kofi is not on any draft boards that I have looked at, but that could change.
Ayo is only on a couple who have him in second round.

Hard to say, they both might think it is better to be in the G league and try and develop than play another year of college.

Kofi has no outside shot at all and needs to learn how to guard in space.
Ayo can't shoot the threeball but might contribute in the right system.

How will the NBA even do workouts and camps? That is where guys like Kofi and Ayo get on the radar.
Kofi not only doesn't have an outside shot, he also isn't a sure thing of getting buckets when the ball goes down low to him if he can't dunk. I didn't get to see all the games, but I saw a lot of shots clang off the board/rim and the ball knocked away because he brings the ball down to chest and waist level. He needs a lot of work.
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: Lkdog on April 12, 2020, 11:03:21 PM
It would be a dumb move on his part unless he's getting feedback that there's money in Europe waiting, etc. He ain't on a league roster next year.

The letter comes off as if it's final, like he may not even be doing coursework final. And all these letters look the same so it looks as genuine as when my favorite fast food joint sends me a "hey, we care about you during the zombie apocalypse" email.

Agree, he will not get drafted. He is also the antithesis of a Euro League big.
He has a lot of work to do but has great work ethic so maybe down the road......
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: ThePAMan on April 16, 2020, 09:05:17 AM
Nothing regarding Ayo declaring????
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: Miniditka on April 16, 2020, 11:18:14 AM
Ayo declaring was expected. I think he would likely get drafted in the 2nd round. I don’t know what the best decision for him is. He might be able to play himself into a first round pick with another year in college, or he might be able to improve more rapidly with pro coaching.

I really think returning to college is the best option for Kofi though. He needs to show he can do more than physically dominate college guys who are weaker than him (which is pretty much all of them).
Title: Re: Cockburn declares for draft
Post by: Lkdog on April 17, 2020, 12:40:36 AM
Ayo declaring was kind of expected after a fairly strong finish. I think he is marginal as to getting drafted in second round based upon the various mock drafts. He is in very few of them.
He will certainly be in the mix to get a shot at making a roster no matter what. His length and ability in open court is a big asset. I see guys like Winston, however,  all over the place in mocks who are more well rounded developed players and also not on the draft board in various mocks.
Its hard to say what happens.
Ayo is good college wing who can't shoot the three right now in an NBA where the three is a major part of the game anymore.
I think he can develop and stick on an NBA roster if he can develop his handle, passing, shot, and defense.
He has to improve his shot mostly and he has the work ethic to do so. 

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