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General Category => The Deuce => Topic started by: ThePAMan on September 29, 2021, 10:15:50 PM

Title: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on September 29, 2021, 10:15:50 PM
Good to see Toews on the ice tonight.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 19, 2021, 07:19:07 PM
Well, the home opener is a minute in and they have not given up a goal yet, so that is an improvement.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 19, 2021, 09:24:26 PM
Colliton has to go. This is brutal.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 21, 2021, 09:03:27 PM
deHaan stinks. Just let's forwards stand in front of the goalie. Guy sucks.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 21, 2021, 09:05:13 PM
Nm
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 24, 2021, 07:36:37 PM
Nm

Colliton is the Matt Nagy of the NHL
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 24, 2021, 08:03:43 PM
I was offered two free tickets to tonight’s Hawks game. I said I was busy. I wasn’t.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 25, 2021, 10:24:01 AM
I was offered two free tickets to tonight’s Hawks game. I said I was busy. I wasn’t.

you had better things to do, like spam illinihq2 with your killer takes
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 25, 2021, 10:26:47 AM
you had better things to do, like spam illinihq2 with your killer takes

They are much needed here. And yes, just about anything is better than time spent at a Hawks game.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Judge Judy on October 25, 2021, 10:29:16 AM
They are much needed here. And yes, just about anything is better than time spent at a Hawks game.

Live hockey is fucking awesome!
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 25, 2021, 10:35:30 AM
It’s ok. I’d rather watch football on TV.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 25, 2021, 10:36:35 AM
They are much needed here. And yes, just about anything is better than time spent at a Hawks game.

when I used to go to hawks games I'd buy the cheapest tickets they offered, then hang out at one of the corner bars on the 300 level, great times, even did it during a playoff game where we got our shit pushed in by the Blues... that sucked but mission accomplished in the drinky department
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 25, 2021, 10:37:42 AM
It’s ok. I’d rather watch football on TV.

football on live TV with no DVR or whatever to skip all the commercials and down time is so fucking boring, not sure how you do it, you have far more patience than I do

but by watch football you probably mean redzone lol
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 25, 2021, 10:38:18 AM
Somehow I don’t think my 6 year old is into getting shitfaced yet.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 25, 2021, 10:47:56 AM
Somehow I don’t think my 6 year old is into getting shitfaced yet.

well why not just make him be the designated driver?

smdh
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Judge Judy on October 25, 2021, 11:06:27 AM
Somehow I don’t think my 6 year old is into getting shitfaced yet.

Rob would disagree.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 25, 2021, 11:25:20 AM
Or hockey for that matter.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Chickengeorge on October 25, 2021, 01:39:09 PM
Somehow I don’t think my 6 year old is into getting shitfaced yet.

Well, he's got the gene.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 25, 2021, 02:40:10 PM
Well, he's got the gene.

Ooooooh, burn. I had two beers last week. Which was two more than I’d had the previous month. It’s a great meme, though. Rob is a good fiction writer.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Judge Judy on October 25, 2021, 02:49:59 PM
Rob is a good fiction writer.

No he’s not.

I’d say he was better than ThePAMan though. Not that that’s a high bar and definitely not something to be proud of.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 25, 2021, 03:30:02 PM
No he’s not.

I’d say he was better than ThePAMan though. Not that that’s a high bar and definitely not something to be proud of.

Of course I was being facetious.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Judge Judy on October 25, 2021, 03:38:26 PM
Of course I was being facetious.

I figured. Just wanted to say my piece.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2021, 01:24:57 PM
Stan Bowman...he gawn (as GM).
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2021, 01:27:57 PM
Stan Bowman...he gawn (as GM).

"Al MacIsaac is out as a result of the findings in the independent investigation into the Cole Aldrich sexual abuse lawsuits."

House cleaning going on at the Madhouse on Madison.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2021, 01:28:48 PM
I'd hear what Dan Bernstein has to say, but he is only on for, what, 2 hours a day? He is probably napping right now.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 26, 2021, 02:05:19 PM
I'd hear what Dan Bernstein has to say, but he is only on for, what, 2 hours a day? He is probably napping right now.

It’s a good gig if you can get it.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2021, 02:09:07 PM
It’s a good gig if you can get it.

Very true.

I do have the Score on now for the 1st time in a very long time.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2021, 02:21:08 PM
Very true.

I do have the Score on now for the 1st time in a very long time.

Could only take it for about 25 minutes.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 26, 2021, 02:45:54 PM
Turned AM1000 for 2 seconds to hear Silvy asking why no one called the police. Silvy may want to read the report. He will find out why based on what Hawks managment was initially told.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 27, 2021, 09:35:18 PM
Hawks still stink. Poor Toews came back for this shit.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 27, 2021, 09:41:43 PM
Apparently they are a dumpster fire on and off the ice. Gross.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 07:22:32 AM
Apparently they are a dumpster fire on and off the ice. Gross.

The off ice stuff happened 11 years ago.

They completely screwed up by not immediately investigating claims of harassment by a coach towards a player. But it does not make sense that the 11th player taken in the draft is worried about making a team that everyone knew was going to have to shed players because Talon had put them in Cap Hell.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 09:24:00 AM
The off ice stuff happened 11 years ago.

They completely screwed up by not immediately investigating claims of harassment by a coach towards a player. But it does not make sense that the 11th player taken in the draft is worried about making a team that everyone knew was going to have to shed players because Talon had put them in Cap Hell.

Wait, you’re losing your mind over old boob and penis jokes; yet dismissing the horrid Blackhawks scandal; which was just fully exposed a couple of days ago as “something that happened 11 years ago?” Am I understanding you correctly, here?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 09:28:29 AM
People like Stan Bowman, who enabled this behavior and did nothing about it was just allowed to resign; and then guys like Kane and Toews just last night called him a “good guy.”
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 09:41:09 AM
Wait, you’re losing your mind over old boob and penis jokes; yet dismissing the horrid Blackhawks scandal; which was just fully exposed a couple of days ago as “something that happened 11 years ago?” Am I understanding you correctly, here?

Again, I was not "losing my mind" over anything Dan Bernstein said years ago; I was merely pointing out the cognitive dissonance between your views on Dan Bernstein and Mike Simgletary, et al.

Anyone paying attention knew what the claims were quite awhile ago when the suit was filed. What we did not know was what was the specific reaction by "upper management" to the harassment (as opposed to "assault", as it does not appear those claims were known at the time of the "meeting") claims.

I am not dismissing the scandal. The Hawks screwed up royal. People got hurt as a result (the intern the guy harassed and the high school kid).

The original misconduct occurred 11 years ago. Actually, under your Dan Bernstein fandom theory,  the Hawks should be fine now because they, finally, investigated and acknowledged and apologized for their misconduct.

My point is that something does not make sense with the 11th pick in the draft, with a clear lane to being on the roster, being scared that a video coach can keep him off the roster or get him on the roster. That does not make  the possibility of even a consensual relationship appropriate here and the Hawks should have taken action immediately. Just that the whole alleged "hook" of why this guy said he didn't say anything and went along does not make a lot of sense.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 09:44:27 AM
Covering up sexual assault = boob and penis jokes. Gotcha
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 09:46:37 AM
People like Stan Bowman, who enabled this behavior and did nothing about it was just allowed to resign; and then guys like Kane and Toews just last night called him a “good guy.”

Did you even read the report? I'm guessing not. What had happened between Beach and Aldrich, including the threesome with the chick, had already occurred. The incident with the Hawks intern had not.

Should he have dissented from McDonough and Q? Obviously. And obviously easier said than done, not that that makes it right.

Had a kid who played hockey with one of his kids for a season. Seen him once or twice at social events since then. He's a good guy.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 09:48:57 AM
Joe Paterno was a “good guy.”
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 09:49:21 AM
Covering up sexual assault = boob and penis jokes. Gotcha

Where in the report says they knew about the alleged sexual assault at the time they decided to do nothing during the playoffs? The guy resigned as the ininvestigation was starting. One issue is they did not investigate it despite the guy quitting.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 09:50:05 AM
Joe Paterno was a “good guy.”

Joe Paterno was aware of the assault allegations at the time.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 09:51:34 AM
I know Tempo has not read the report because he has seen what they say on The Twitter.

Half the stuff I've read, even in the papers, does not match the timeline in the report.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Custard on October 28, 2021, 09:52:11 AM
I know Tempo has not read the report because he has seen what they say on The Twitter.

Priceless.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 09:56:05 AM
Priceless.

Missed including "because it is 107 pages and is 'long'". Damn.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 10:04:37 AM
https://omny.fm/shows/wbbm-in-depth/the-blackhawks-sexual-assault-scandal-explained/embed?source=twitter&size=square&style=cover
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 10:05:41 AM
I’ll bet Jay Zawaski has read the report. You’re telling me you read all 107 pages? I doubt that.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 10:06:04 AM
But, but…Twitter!
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 10:08:21 AM
https://omny.fm/shows/wbbm-in-depth/the-blackhawks-sexual-assault-scandal-explained/embed?source=twitter&size=square&style=cover

So the answer is "No", you didn't read the report and are relying on others, who may, or may not, be accurate in their reading and interpretation.of the same.

Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 10:09:42 AM
I’ll bet Jay Zawaski has read the report. You’re telling me you read all 107 pages? I doubt that.

I plan on using it as an example of what not to do in upcoming sexual harassment training sessions I am conducting.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 10:10:15 AM
But, but…Twitter!

We.know it is your source for news and information.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 10:13:57 AM
https://omny.fm/shows/wbbm-in-depth/the-blackhawks-sexual-assault-scandal-explained/embed?source=twitter&size=square&style=cover

I'll listen to this and submit an opinion, but don't have the time right now.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 10:16:59 AM
The Blackhawks top brass all knew about the accusation, but waited a month, until the playoffs were over to do anything about it all. Then when they finally did, they just let the guy resign (rather than face investigation or legal authorities), participate in the rally,  collect checks, tote the Stanley Cup around, and gave him a recommendation letter to a high school. Now the guy is a registered sex offender in Michigan…

But hey, it was 11 years ago!

What am I missing? Not enough Twitter references?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 10:30:52 AM
Oh, and the guy also got a ring, his name on the trophy, and invited to the banner ceremony. Clearly, after he resigned because of the issue.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 10:35:29 AM
The Blackhawks top brass all knew about the accusation, but waited a month, until the playoffs were over to do anything about it all. Then when they finally did, they just let the guy resign (rather than face investigation or legal authorities), participate in the rally,  collect checks, tote the Stanley Cup around, and gave him a recommendation letter to a high school. Now the guy is a registered sex offender in Michigan…

But hey, it was 11 years ago!

What am I missing? Not enough Twitter references?

What accusation where they made aware of at the time?

A. Sexual harassment: guy sending dick pics and tried to get in between the sheets in bed with him?

Or

B. Sexual assault: the guy dry humped him and shot on his back and gave him an unwanted blow.job.

Tell me Tempo. Which one, or both, were they made aware of at that meeting?

Even if it was only A, their delayed reaction was completely inappropriate. If it was B, none of them should have jobs ever again.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 10:39:02 AM
According to Zawaski, it was assault.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 10:45:00 AM
According to Zawaski, it was assault.

I obviously don't think the report supports B.

I don't think Q is writing this guy a reference if he knows about B. It is bad enough he wrote one knowing about A, but B?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 10:45:55 AM
Take a look at the report itself, and let me know what you think.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Judge Judy on October 28, 2021, 11:17:36 AM
Missed including “because it is long.” Damn.

Like my dick, Bitch! 😂🤣

Sorry I could resist.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: IlliniGolf on October 28, 2021, 11:29:46 AM
Twitter breaks big stories into little tempo sized bites which he then consumes from personalities who deliver the slant he’s looking for. Then he repeats it ad nauseum while doing the message board version of sticking his fingers in his ears and screaming lalalalalalala !
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 11:35:27 AM
Twitter breaks big stories into little tempo sized bites which he then consumes from personalities who deliver the slant he’s looking for. Then he repeats it ad nauseum while doing the message board version of sticking his fingers in his ears and screaming lalalalalalala !

What do you think of Dan Bernstein, Gelato?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ILLove1997 on October 28, 2021, 11:47:24 AM
Twitter breaks big stories into little tempo sized bites which he then consumes from personalities who deliver the slant he’s looking for. Then he repeats it ad nauseum while doing the message board version of sticking his fingers in his ears and screaming lalalalalalala !

god damn someone call the burn ward!
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 12:09:44 PM
Coming from someone who I’m betting considers Tucker Carlson and Ben Shapiro “news.”
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 12:10:48 PM
So golf is gelato, huh? Why do so many people constantly run from their old usernames?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 28, 2021, 12:20:54 PM
Hey gelato, you still getting high and passing out on the bathroom floor in a stupor?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 01:00:56 PM
Hey gelato, you still getting high and passing out on the bathroom floor in a stupor?

LOL
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 28, 2021, 01:42:33 PM
Someone just reminded me how we had a discussion a month back that I had noted that it was reported that Stan had sold his house (in the Tribune) and that I said I doubted he was going to survive this lawsuit. I was ATOC!


How did I get the acronym wrong? Terrible posting on my part.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 29, 2021, 03:34:50 AM
Joel Quenneville “resigns.”
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 29, 2021, 06:16:41 AM
Joel Quenneville “resigns.”

You are about 7 and half hours behind the curve.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 29, 2021, 07:43:51 AM
Shucks
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on October 29, 2021, 08:05:47 AM
I guess Quenneville wasn’t late on the news, though.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on October 29, 2021, 09:19:43 AM
I guess Quenneville wasn’t late on the news, though.

He was not AOTC on this one.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2021, 02:16:41 PM
Colliton....he gawn!
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 06, 2021, 02:54:35 PM
Colliton....he gawn!

Championship?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on November 06, 2021, 04:06:11 PM
Championship?

No stopping them now!
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on November 09, 2021, 10:22:25 PM
Stanley Cup here we come! 2-0 under Coach King!
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2021, 06:34:15 AM
Cover up sexual abuse? No problem! Make a joke about boobs? OMG how morally reprehensible!
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on November 10, 2021, 06:37:41 AM
Cover up sexual abuse? No problem! Make a joke about boobs? OMG how morally reprehensible!

Everyone involved is gone, yet Dan Bernstein still has his job and has done a 180 from his Count Fagula days. Who you crappin', Tempo?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2021, 06:43:38 AM
Everyone involved is gone, yet Dan Bernstein still has his job and has done a 180 from his Count Fagula days. Who you crappin', Tempo?

Yep, Bowman was allowed to resign.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2021, 06:45:02 AM
And then the star players told everyone what a great guy he is.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on November 10, 2021, 06:48:55 AM
And then the star players told everyone what a great guy he is.

Ok. Is Dan Bernstein a great guy?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2021, 07:02:13 AM
Ok. Is Dan Bernstein a great guy?

I’m sure he has good and bad qualities.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2021, 07:03:04 AM
I’m not the one trying to cancel Dan Bernstein. I’m merely pointing out you seem quite selective in your outrage
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on November 10, 2021, 07:18:14 AM
I’m sure he has good and bad qualities.

Which one is going from "boobs" and Count Fagula to Social Justice Radio Warrior as things "change"?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Judge Judy on November 10, 2021, 07:55:06 AM
If Bernstein can change, so can Bowman.

Don’t we all have good and bad qualities?
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on November 10, 2021, 08:48:59 AM
If Bernstein can change, so can Bowman.

Don’t we all have good and bad qualities?

Sure, but I’d argue that being dismissive of sexual abuse allegations is quite a bit worse than engaging in now unacceptable sophomoric humor. YMMV
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on November 10, 2021, 09:06:35 AM
Sure, but I’d argue that being dismissive of sexual abuse allegations is quite a bit worse than engaging in now unacceptable sophomoric humor. YMMV

How was he dismissive? According to the report,  which was not subject to cross-examination, McDonough, the President, said he would take care of it.  McDonough didn't report it to HR until 5 days after the Stanley Cup clincher.

Bernstein is an opportunistic hypocrite. He's as big a scumbag as McDonough.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Miles Leonard on November 26, 2021, 07:09:33 PM
https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/1464363820936220672
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on November 26, 2021, 07:36:13 PM
https://twitter.com/ChiSportUpdates/status/1464363820936220672

Love it. I’d like to see them break out into this chant to start the Arizona game off.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on February 03, 2022, 07:20:42 AM
What a bunch of dopes. Completely unprepared for a question everyone paying attention knew a loser like Mark Lazarus would ask. Morons.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: Reacher on February 03, 2022, 03:18:55 PM
Rocky Wirtz is gross.
Title: Re: 2021-22 Blackhawks
Post by: ThePAMan on July 18, 2022, 01:17:24 PM
Sounds like Ed Olczyk will be Eddie NoBlackhawksCheck next year....