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General Category => The Deuce => Topic started by: illiniray on August 15, 2021, 07:53:07 PM

Title: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: illiniray on August 15, 2021, 07:53:07 PM
For the record, I don't think we are,  necessarily. There might be a dichotomy between what we say in public and do in private. The former is largely controlled  by  vocal busy body church ladies and  hall monitors who praise the emporer's new clothes. 

Sorry rob, this story is kind of old, but still funny and is illustrative. An airline pilot was naked, getting ready to shower,  in his 10th floor  hotel room at Denver International Airport. Someone saw him through a window, took a picture, and called the police ...

https://www.9news.com/amp/article/news/investigations/denver-pays-300000-to-pilot-wrongfully-arrested-for-being-naked-in-dia-hotel/73-fe05122f-9718-4fe9-8789-f2bd1903e834

https://denver.cbslocal.com/2019/11/11/andrew-collins-pilot-arrested-naked-hotel-room-window/

https://www.courthousenews.com/federal-judge-dismisses-naked-pilots-suit-against-airport-hotel/
Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: fucking on August 15, 2021, 08:38:49 PM
Ridiculous.

I hope the cop is fired for stupidity & incompetence.

It's disturbing that they might have charged him if he *were* having sex, or scratching his balls. But on the other hand, I don't recall standing nude in front of a full-length hotel window.
Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: illiniray on August 16, 2021, 11:33:22 AM
According to this NBC article, the airline pilot was walking around naked his 10th floor hotel room, talking on the phone. He was about to take a shower when he got the phone call. Whoever observed him, took a picture, and called police,  was apparently about 100 yards away, in the airport terminal.
https://www.9news.com/amp/article/news/investigations/denver-pays-300000-to-pilot-wrongfully-arrested-for-being-naked-in-dia-hotel/73-fe05122f-9718-4fe9-8789-f2bd1903e834

Maybe the lesson is never walk around your hotel room naked with the curtains open. Assume there might be some deranged repressed  perve with a zoom lens watching?



Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: fucking on August 16, 2021, 05:28:32 PM
In a number of jurisdictions, the person watching would be arrested under a Peeping Tom ordinance.
Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: murphstahoe on August 16, 2021, 05:54:13 PM
I guess the better question for Nichi is ytf r u so weird?

So fucking random.  Oh, and don't stand in front of a window naked.  Then you won't have problems.

https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/w1pue/til_that_a_couple_who_was_having_sex_in_a_skydome/
Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: fucking on August 16, 2021, 05:57:08 PM
If he’s standing in front of an open window in plain view?
It depends on the expectation of privacy.

10th floor + a hundred yards distance = a pretty good expectation of privacy.
Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: Somewhere in Mn on August 16, 2021, 06:41:06 PM
They should have identified who called police, and cuffed that person. And not identified the pilot.
Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: ThePAMan on August 16, 2021, 07:00:40 PM
https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/w1pue/til_that_a_couple_who_was_having_sex_in_a_skydome/

Stayed in SkyDome/Rogers Centre or whatever it is now called in the early Ninties. You have to sign an agreement that you will not do that shit with the curtains open when you checked in.
Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: illiniray on August 16, 2021, 09:11:01 PM
Headlines can be misleading.

It appears the airline pilot was walking around the room talking on the phone. Not standing in the window.

The only evidence was a blurry side view photo of an unidentifiable naked man.

The airport paid the pilot $300,000. The airport. Not the police. Not the hotel.

I certainly hope no children under 18 suffered severe psychological damage by seeing what appeared to be a nude male, through a 10th floor hotel window, from inside the airport terminal, 100 yards away.
Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: illiniray on August 16, 2021, 10:18:32 PM
Obviously, it is a good idea to close the curtains before getting naked these days, whether at home or a hotel or wherever. Morality police are lurking, armed with camera phones.

From what I gather, courts say no expectation of privacy if one can be seen from a public location. I am not sure if the use of binoculars, telescopes, telephoto lenses,  digital zoom, etc. negates that. Not that it matters. This guy lost 6 months of his life over pretty much nothing. At least he had a good lawyer and got some money.

Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: illiniray on August 17, 2021, 06:07:02 PM
It is also a bad idea to peep in other people's windows and take pictures.

I have been to Denver a number of times, but always drove. Not familiar with Denver International. I just suspect it would take a lot of effort to see into a 10th floor hotel room from the airport terminal at distance of 100 yards.

The airport's insurer paid the pilot a 100k settlement without actually admitting liability. This leads me to believe an airport employee took the blurry photo and called the cops.

Title: Re: ytf r americans such prudes?
Post by: ThePAMan on August 17, 2021, 06:12:59 PM

The airport's insurer paid the pilot a 100k settlement without actually admitting liability. This leads me to believe an airport employee took the blurry photo and called the cops.

No one ever admits liability in a settlement.