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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Lkdog on July 29, 2021, 10:34:58 PM
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Some interesting factoids so far after 35 picks…..
Franz Wagner went 8th.
The Thunder have 6 picks overall.
Scottie Barnes went ahead of Suggs.
Jason Preston of Ohio went 33rd.
No AYO yet.
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Love being reminded that Preston lit up Illinois.
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Ayo just got drafted by the Bulls. Best of luck, kid!
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Good luck to him.
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Wieskamp and Livers get their name called at 41 and 42.
QUOTE on Wieskamp.
“I went out in pregame warm-ups just to watch him, and I never go out in pregame warm-ups. His balls don’t hit
the rim. I’m fascinated with guys who can make baskets. I sat out there and watched him at the free throw line hit about 19 [jump shots] in a row and I don’t think any of them hit the rim.”
-Illinois head coach Brad Underwood
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Garza goes 52nd.
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Bulls will be better without him.
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Bulls will be better without him.
LOL. You are not a fan.
I am not sure how he fits into NBA game but could develop.
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LOL. You are not a fan.
I am not sure how he fits into NBA game but could develop.
Actually, I'm joking about those who always say "The Illini will be better off without x"....
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Actually, I'm joking about those who always say "The Illini will be better off without x"....
Lol, that was good tho.
I'll cut LK plenty of slack. He was probably preoccupied with draft analysis.
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Lol, that was good tho.
I'll cut LK plenty of slack. He was probably preoccupied with draft analysis.
:)
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Had a feeling the Bulls would take Ayo. I like the pick. A lot of people think Ayo is only scratching the surface on his potential. I think he could end up being a versatile NBA player, and the 2nd round is often where you find those glue guys.
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Ayo is a total pro, hopefully his hard work, talent, and attitude helps make the Bulls good again. Can't say I've watched any games since Thibs got the axe, I can't stand Zach Levine's face or game so yeah....
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Hate to see him fall this far but I imagine the Dosunmu family sees a lot of value to being drafted by the hometown team. He’s a high floor fairly low ceiling NBA player but have no doubt he’ll make the most of what he has.
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Hate to see him fall this far but I imagine the Dosunmu family sees a lot of value to being drafted by the hometown team. He’s a high floor fairly low ceiling NBA player but have no doubt he’ll make the most of what he has.
As usual Custard provides some objectivity. Yeah - he really fell pretty low after a lot of talk about first round a few months ago.
He does not have any true position in the NBA right now and I am sure that showed in workouts.
He has a good work ethic (they all pretty much do), so that will help. His length and open court motor is attractive to build upon. He is a weak link on both sides of ball in half court in NBA right now.
The Bulls seem to have a quite a few guys who are just a guy after the starters so he has an opportunity to maybe play a little bit and develop.
He needs to develop something he can do really well at this level and he can make and stay in a rotation.
I think he does do that eventually. He works hard and will get away from his family directing him.
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Loyola’s guards made him look like a little bitch.
You guys realize second round draft picks get cut pretty often, right?
Well that was not long after he was out for getting his nose broken and a concussion, he really was never the same player after that
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As usual Custard provides some objectivity. Yeah - he really fell pretty low after a lot of talk about first round a few months ago.
He does not have any true position in the NBA right now and I am sure that showed in workouts.
He has a good work ethic (they all pretty much do), so that will help. His length and open court motor is attractive to build upon. He is a weak link on both sides of ball in half court in NBA right now.
The Bulls seem to have a quite a few guys who are just a guy after the starters so he has an opportunity to maybe play a little bit and develop.
He needs to develop something he can do really well at this level and he can make and stay in a rotation.
I think he does do that eventually. He works hard and will get away from his family directing him.
First thing I would work on is cutting down on careless turnovers. They can be a 4-6 point swing, and he'll be going against better players than in college.
Underwood has never seemed to mind 20+/- turnovers a game.
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Well that was not long after he was out for getting his nose broken and a concussion, he really was never the same player after that
Excuses, excuses. If he would have just quit at that time he would have been applauded.
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Ayo is a total pro, hopefully his hard work, talent, and attitude helps make the Bulls good again. Can't say I've watched any games since Thibs got the axe, I can't stand Zach Levine's face or game so yeah....
Not the ++ athlete we all want, but his versatility and work ethic should suit him well in the NBA.
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Yeah. Something about Zach doesn’t do it for me, either.
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Lol, bullshit.
Why?
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Excuses, excuses. If he would have just quit at that time he would have been applauded.
(https://media.giphy.com/media/u49M522ZDDe8w7IQ9S/giphy.gif)
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Not the ++ athlete we all want, but his versatility and work ethic should suit him well in the NBA.
He's worked hard on it, apparently he couldn't dunk when he came onto campus and you saw last year he was definitely throwing some down. He has good length and just needs to continue adding more strength and I think he could stick around the league a while as maybe a 3D type guy
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Aaron Henry, Duane Washington
Joshua Primo, Josh Christopher, Dalano Banton.
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I had a feeling the Bulls would draft Ayo too. In fact, I was positive of it.
See what I did there?
You will have to pry the HQ2 Tempo AOTC Award out of Q97's cold, dead hands.
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I had a feeling the Bulls would draft Ayo too. In fact, I was positive of it.
See what I did there?
No, I don’t. I think you’re just being a prick.
I’m just saying I had a gut feeling there was a pretty decent chance he’d get taken by the Bulls if he was still there. That’s all I’m saying. If you want to make it MORE than that, that’s your problem. Talk about sensitive…Jesus, grow up.
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No, I don’t. I think you’re just being a prick.
I’m just saying I had a gut feeling there was a pretty decent chance he’d get taken by the Bulls if he was still there. That’s all I’m saying. If you want to make it MORE than that, that’s your problem. Talk about sensitive…Jesus, grow up.
Tell him to go fuck himself like Spark did.
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Fuck off.
Now we are getting somewhere. Led Zepplin rules!!!!
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lol
I thought you'd like that
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😂🤣 Tempo gonna Tempo.
And….
Jobu gonna Jobu his ass!
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Not the ++ athlete we all want, but his versatility and work ethic should suit him well in the NBA.
It's a grown man's game. They ALL work their ass off.
He should hold a spot for now but for him to stick around he has to get a lot better at pretty much everything.
He has his shot now and it is time to take it.
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Tempo gonna Tempo.
And….
Jobu gonna Jobu his ass!
You are just as dumb as Jobu. Which it surprises me to say. What is so out of this world impossible and arrogant about a gut feeling a guy who played for Illinois and is from Chicago might go to the Bulls? If this thought didn’t cross the mind of anyone thinking about Ayo’s potential landing spot they aren’t a very deep thinker. Especially someone from this forum. Ayo figured to be drafted late 1st/2nd round, and the Bulls seem to want versatile players with upside.
It was a fairly obvious fit IMO. Keep in mind, I’m not saying “I was sure he would end up with the Bulls.” That’s a lot different than saying “I had a feeling.” You guys are making a mountain out of a molehill.
Anything that even remotely allows for a dig at me though, I guess. You guys are sad people.
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It's a grown man's game. They ALL work their ass off.
He should hold a spot for now but for him to stick around he has to get a lot better at pretty much everything.
He has his shot now and it is time to take it.
I don’t think that’s true. They don’t all have the same work ethic. He’s gotten better each year in college, no reason to think he’s peaked.
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A hunch Ayo might slide to the Bulls was not unreasonable, especially after the Lakers traded their pick.
There were apparently some interesting picks. I don't have the time or interest level to read the in depth draft analyses, but I followed it more than usual and scanned the coverage. A few things caught my untrained eye:
*Josh Primo at #12
*Chris Duarte at #13
*Santi Almada at #30
B1G: Banton from NE at #46; Garza fell all the way to 52. Aaron Henry and Duane Washington not drafted.
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Heh heh.
Tempo said "upside."
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I don’t think that’s true. They don’t all have the same work ethic. He’s gotten better each year in college, no reason to think he’s peaked.
Tell me the last time that you actually watched an NBA game?
It is a grown man's game and these guys are playing for their livelihoods. He will not have his parents dictating the roster and his touches anymore.
You think he is something unique in terms of work ethic- you are full of shit.
Yes, Ayo works hard. Yes, he has improved. He became a very good college player. Most guys work hard and improve after 3 years in college. But- after 3 years he still has extremely limited left hand, and is very TO prone. He will have to play off the ball in the NBA. Unfortunately, he cannot create his own shot very well against plus defenders and everybody who guards him in the NBA is better than anybody who guarded him in college.
He also is not a good 3 point shooter. Above average in open court for sure but that is kind of an adjunct. Most guys are fast and can finish.
He will get killed in switches and isos on D in the NBA right now - and they will find him.
Yes he can and will improve. Again- it is their full time job. The question is will it be enough. He is not really a plus athlete. He was late second round or non draft after his soph year. He ended up #38 after his breakout year and workouts. I know for a fact he had his family controlling his pre draft prep - not known development people. He really dropped from Feb/March. Fact is they question his upside.
I do think the Bulls are a good situation for him. Weak team and not loaded with good guards off the ball on the bench.
I think his biggest upside is defense actually. He has the length and just needs to commit to it like never before.
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Wow! Good thing he's not the Illini's problem anymore! Scathing!
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Wow! Good thing he's not the Illini's problem anymore! Scathing!
Its just a different game and level of play. He was very good college player. So is Kofi.
When they start handing out a million dollars for NBA minimum it gets pretty real.
Wish him the best. I am sure he will give it 100%.
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Wow! Good thing he's not the Illini's problem anymore! Scathing!
I get what you’re doing but there’s a reason he was questioned during the season and it was borne out during the draft. Great college player. We probably relied too heavily on him at times which hurt the team overall. Not a great pro prospect. Won’t be able to overwhelm lesser opponents. I’ve questioned his pro potential for a long time and I’m far from being alone. I said last season that Curbelo would have the best pro career out of the big three. I still stand by that.
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Heh heh.
Tempo said "upside."
Per the norm, Rob brings little to the discussion. That’s all the 2nd round basically is. Players that NBA GMs think have the potential to outplay their draft status. So in essence, the entire 2nd round is drafting for “upside.” 2nd rounders aren’t even expected to make a team in many cases.
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Give 'em hell, Tempo. Don't quit like Simone Biles!
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I get what you’re doing but there’s a reason he was questioned during the season and it was borne out during the draft. Great college player. We probably relied too heavily on him at times which hurt the team overall. Not a great pro prospect. Won’t be able to overwhelm lesser opponents. I’ve questioned his pro potential for a long time and I’m far from being alone. I said last season that Curbelo would have the best pro career out of the big three. I still stand by that.
Just me, but I'm not going to crap on a guy who had real choices on where to go but still came here. I'll crap on Underachiever and the Scott Weavers of the Illini world, though
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I love Ayo but he really didn’t have any better options. He supposedly had an offer from KU but they weren’t seriously recruiting him. It came down to us and a Wake Forest program that’s still floundering.
We definitely aren’t better off without him but he had significant limitations and he wasn’t the same player after he got hurt. It’s kinda funny to think Illinois would have matched up better with Loyola if we’d have sat our two All Americans.
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I love Ayo but he really didn’t have any better options. He supposedly had an offer from KU but they weren’t seriously recruiting him. It came down to us and a Wake Forest program that’s still floundering.
We definitely aren’t better off without him but he had significant limitations and he wasn’t the same player after he got hurt. It’s kinda funny to think Illinois would have matched up better with Loyola if we’d have sat our two All Americans.
I think that we may not have the same W-L, or high ranking, but I think we might be better prepared for a tournament with more scoring balance, a full time true PG, better 3 point shooting, and improved interior defense options.
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I think that we may not have the same W-L, or high ranking, but I think we might be better prepared for a tournament with more scoring balance, a full time true PG, better 3 point shooting, and improved interior defense options.
The record will be almost identical records imo, if we play Arkansas early on, then I think that will be a good barometer for our season. Big Ten should be basically a 3/4 horse race. Michigan/MSU/Purdue/Ohio State against us.
More balance although a different kind of Alpha dog still running the show.
3 Point shooting may improve, but 2 Point % will go down imo.
Interior Defense will be greatly improved with likes of Payne joining the Paign...
Still quite abit of unknowns outside of main 4 guys...Kofi/Fraz/Belo/Williams.
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So, the Bulls just signed Lonzo Ball.
How does this affect Ayo and his chances of making the squad?
Ayo is being looked at, at least prior to the draft by most, as being a role bench player 2nd round draft pick. This is actually a really good assessment of his abilities in the NBA...soooo, he stays just as he was scoped out to be a role player swiss knife to Levine/Ball. No change in projection imo.
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So, the Bulls just signed Lonzo Ball.
How does this affect Ayo and his chances of making the squad?
White just had surgery for pretty serious injury. Minutes are there.
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Ayo is being looked at, at least prior to the draft by most, as being a role bench player 2nd round draft pick. This is actually a really good assessment of his abilities in the NBA...soooo, he stays just as he was scoped out to be a role player swiss knife to Levine/Ball. No change in projection imo.
Agreed. He was drafted to take Sotaransky’s spot IMO.
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Agreed. He was drafted to take Sotaransky’s spot IMO.
Caruso will steal more potential minutes away from Ayo than anyone else right away.
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Keep your day jobs. The Bulls are not done making deals and I doubt they had Ayo penciled in for 20+ minutes a game off the bench like you assume.
With the White injury recovery unclear there is an opening for 9th or 10th man, but they will still add more wings/ guards.
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I had a gut feeling that there was a pretty decent chance that the Bulls would sign Caruso.
You are in the lead to snatch the HQ AOTC award from 97.
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I had a gut feeling that there was a pretty decent chance that the Bulls would sign Caruso.
I see what you did there.
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I had a gut feeling that there was a pretty decent chance that the Bulls would sign Caruso.
LOL. They only had like 11 guys on the roster after the Ball deal and signing Caruso.
They were clearly also trying to get rid of Aminu.
What did your gut say about adding yet another wing in DeRozan?
They still have money left I think and open spots. This shit is fluid as hell.
Ayo has a shot to stick and play some, but they are very serious about getting to the playoffs next year it seems.
They could be decent and he can part of a nice rebuild the next few seasons.
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I had a gut feeling that there was a pretty decent chance that the Bulls would sign Caruso.
Slow down, brah.
You gotta throw in a "but I wouldn't be surprised if they didn't" to hedge.
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Keep your day jobs. The Bulls are not done making deals and I doubt they had Ayo penciled in for 20+ minutes a game off the bench like you assume.
With the White injury recovery unclear there is an opening for 9th or 10th man, but they will still add more wings/ guards.
With the players they are getting, minutes will be harder to come by, and if correct and more moves are to happen, well maybe the hometown kid will be used more for marketing than for skill set.
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They draft Ayo then go and pick up three guards, all proven at least to some extent, with two expected to have big minutes and start. Doesn't seem ideal for a guy trying to break it into the NBA.
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They draft Ayo then go and pick up three guards, all proven at least to some extent, with two expected to have big minutes and start. Doesn't seem ideal for a guy trying to break it into the NBA.
Defense is the key with Caruso and Ayo more so than scoring...Derozan/White/Lavine/Ball both but far more in the scoring column. White is the wild card and nothing is really known on him as of now...surgery so who knows how he comes back?
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Have you seen Ayo defend anyone? Especially of NBA caliber?
Maybe you have, but I haven’t.
Ayo has a hill to climb to make this team.
What? No gut feeling joke?
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Have to pick your spots.
I’m gonna wait until Ayo gets cut, then I’m gonna say that I had a feeling that Ayo was gonna get cut. Fair?
The good thing is they unloaded a lot of guards so right now he is the 6th guy in the guard rotation and should make the roster and maybe get used.
Bad thing is the other 5 are all proven stars, starters, or very productive players and a lot better than him right now.
Most teams only go 9-10 deep in their rotation.
He might be 10th guy right now if he has good summer.
If White recovery is not good then he gets more minutes but my guess is they go out and get another veteran if that is the case.
He could end up being a decent player, but it will take time. I doubt they are counting on him for any important role. He needs to develop some NBA level skills.
My guess is his 3 ball improves over time. They really can teach it in the NBA and the spacing is unreal so they all get open looks (especially with a high skill PG like Ball). He will have to hit them at a decent clip.
His defense will get better. And he needs a fadeaway and figure out how to get by an NBA defender in the halfcourt. Has to show he can get his own a little bit. The 24 and 14 second clock is a thing. You can't be a guy who can't make a contested shot.
He will not ever play much on ball IMO. Just doesn't have the vision, instincts, or handle.
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Have you seen Ayo defend anyone? Especially of NBA caliber?
Maybe you have, but I haven’t.
Ayo has a hill to climb to make this team.
7 BiG Ten players drafted, of course the time he guarded all or some is different, some like Garza not at all, but many in the league thougth Ayo length would translate. We shall see, Chicago is still the best fit, because if he is limited right away, his family is close for support.
I do agree he has a very big hill to climb...would not surprise me either way really. Make it or not.
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I had a gut feeling that there was a pretty decent chance that the Bulls would sign Caruso.
I’ll bet you think this was clever. As a friend of ours would say, “low IQ” at work.
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Keep your day jobs. The Bulls are not done making deals and I doubt they had Ayo penciled in for 20+ minutes a game off the bench like you assume.
With the White injury recovery unclear there is an opening for 9th or 10th man, but they will still add more wings/ guards.
Not sure I was saying he’d immediately get heavy minutes, just that that’s how they probably envision him. A guy with some versatility who can be groomed into that role. I don’t think anyone was projecting Ayo to basically be a near starter immediately.
I honestly did not know White was seriously injured. Also surprised the Bulls did quite well in FA. It’s been a pretty long time since we’ve said that.
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I had a feeling the USA men’s basketball team would beat France for the gold medal. I wouldn’t have been shocked if they lost tho.
Low IQ comedian
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Says the Marine turned restaurant manager. Lol
Low IQ indeed.
Oh cool. A personal dig. I’d like to see you try to run the busiest restaurant in downtown Chicago. It’s no picnic.
My intent was to be a police officer, Until I realized many cops are terrible people and basically unhappy.
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Says the Marine turned restaurant manager. Lol
Low IQ indeed.
I actually got a degree from U of I. Did you?
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Yes
Nice, is this where you became obsessed with all things cock sucking?
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I had a feeling you would ask me that.
But seriously, though, I say a had a feeling the Bulls would take Ayo (if there). Not really shocking or incredibly prescient IMO, and you act like I’m saying I’ve been to Area 51 and seen the aliens. Weird obsession you have with me.
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To be honest, I think about the Bulls and the NBA very little. But apparently having a sneaking suspicion the local team will spend their 2nd round pick on the local star at a position of need in the draft is some sort of huge brag.
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you act like I’m saying I’ve been to Area 51 and seen the aliens. Weird obsession you have with me.
If I've followed this saga correctly, I deduce that there's exactly *one* person who's stunned by The Profundity of Tempo's Thoughts.
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If I've followed this saga correctly, I deduce that there's exactly *one* person who's stunned by The Profundity of Tempo's Thoughts.
Rob, all-time non sequitur champ.
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You should make like 5 or 6 more posts about it. Lol
You’re the one that made a big deal about it…
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Rob, all-time non sequitur champ.
The sequence is fairly simple.
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Because it was hilarious.
If you say so.
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Rob, all-time non sequitur champ.
You're giving him waaaaay too much credit
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I've heard that drinking a glass of glyphosate can help when you're dealing with a smoky atmosphere.
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Ayo making his debut today. Watched some of it on my lunch break. He is playing off the ball. First game jitters I think.
Kind of rough. Made a couple shots- one on a nice drive where he got by his man in halfcourt, another on midrange jumper off of a little crossover. Couple pretty bad TO's.
He dribbles way too high. This isn't Morgan Park gym class. Got stripped pretty easy on one take.
Had a one take to the hole where he hit the bottom of the basket. Getting beaten off the dribble pretty easy.
Devin Dotson (on a two way from last year) looks like a player who can contribute now. He is playing PG and having huge game.
Patrick Williams looks good.
I am sure Ayo will get better- but it's a different game. He looks like just a guy today.
https://www.nba.com/game/nop-vs-chi-1522100009/box-score (https://www.nba.com/game/nop-vs-chi-1522100009/box-score)
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Ayo making his debut today. Watched some of it on my lunch break. He is playing off the ball. First game jitters I think.
Kind of rough. Made a couple shots- one on a nice drive where he got by his man in halfcourt, another on midrange jumper off of a little crossover. Couple pretty bad TO's.
He dribbles way too high. This isn't Morgan Park gym class. Got stripped pretty easy on one take.
Had a one take to the hole where he hit the bottom of the basket. Getting beaten off the dribble pretty easy.
Devin Dotson (on a two way from last year) looks like a player who can contribute now. He is playing PG and having huge game.
Patrick Williams looks good.
I am sure Ayo will get better- but it's a different game. He looks like just a guy today.
https://www.nba.com/game/nop-vs-chi-1522100009/box-score (https://www.nba.com/game/nop-vs-chi-1522100009/box-score)
Spot on and my thoughts exactly. Thanks for typing that all out for me 😂
Patrick Williams looks like he’s got a very bright future. Also Simonovic looks like he’s gonna fill in nicely for Markkanen.
Trey Murphy looks like a baller for the Pelicans.
Ayo definitely getting exposed by his lack of athleticism.
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Thanks for the update. It's nice to read a post that's not all about the poster sucking his own dick and patting himself on the back.
LOL.
Well, that does remind me of the old joke "Why does a dog lick his balls?"
"Because he can."
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Ayo making his debut today. Watched some of it on my lunch break. He is playing off the ball. First game jitters I think.
Kind of rough. Made a couple shots- one on a nice drive where he got by his man in halfcourt, another on midrange jumper off of a little crossover. Couple pretty bad TO's.
He dribbles way too high. This isn't Morgan Park gym class. Got stripped pretty easy on one take.
Had a one take to the hole where he hit the bottom of the basket. Getting beaten off the dribble pretty easy.
Devin Dotson (on a two way from last year) looks like a player who can contribute now. He is playing PG and having huge game.
Patrick Williams looks good.
I am sure Ayo will get better- but it's a different game. He looks like just a guy today.
https://www.nba.com/game/nop-vs-chi-1522100009/box-score (https://www.nba.com/game/nop-vs-chi-1522100009/box-score)
All reasonable, but I think there’s a real possibility Ayo is just one of those guys who could be much better at 25 than he is at 21. I could definitely be wrong, but I think he’ll carve out a useful career as a Swiss-army knife bench player.
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Thanks for the update. It's nice to read a post that's not all about the poster sucking his own dick and patting himself on the back.
One “I had a feeling” post and this clown makes a federal case out of it. This thread would look entirely different, and that comment would have faded away quietly if you didn’t feel the need to act like a child.
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Just throw the “I had a feeling Ayo would land with the Bulls” on the Theus/Romar pile.
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Oh, you think I'm only talking about this thread? Lol, every post you make is about you sucking your own dick.
Carry on, tho.
Why are you so obsessed with dick sucking? I mostly posted that Scott Drew thread to annoy you. Easily triggered…
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Lol, well, if that's true, that's cool.
It's not true, tho.
Dude, half your posts are attacking me. Whether I’m here or not. Easily triggered…
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It was largely to annoy you and watch you react to it. Contrary to popular board opinion, I’m fairly self-aware. I know my role here, and I do it pretty well *pats self on back*
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But I also just wanted to say that Baylor looks like they’re going to smash for awhile. Pretty impressive what Drew has cooking down there. It’s not KU or Kentucky.
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All reasonable, but I think there’s a real possibility Ayo is just one of those guys who could be much better at 25 than he is at 21. I could definitely be wrong, but I think he’ll carve out a useful career as a Swiss-army knife bench player.
He does most things OK if you want to call that a Swiss army knife, but he doesn't do anything really well right now at this level. He could maybe break in a rotation with a lot more skills.
The biggest limiter is he is not quite a plus athlete at the NBA level and you can't teach that.
Guys that bounce around and then become rotation or starter guys like Beverley or Nunn are simply a lot better athletes.
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He does most things OK if you want to call that a Swiss army knife, but he doesn't do anything really well right now at this level. He could maybe break in a rotation with a lot more skills.
The biggest limiter is he is not quite a plus athlete at the NBA level and you can't teach that.
Guys that bounce around and then become rotation or starter guys like Beverley or Nunn are simply a lot better athletes.
All fair. I will say I heard someone on the radio last spring sell me on Ayo being a productive pro (honestly don’t recall who). Gets better every year, decent size, works hard, and has the clutch gene. That’s worth a 2nd round flyer.
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It was largely to annoy you and watch you react to it. Contrary to popular board opinion, I’m fairly self-aware. I know my role here, and I do it pretty well *pats self on back*
Maybe you could define what that role is in your view.
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Maybe you could define what that role is in your view.
Objective board realist/contrarian; sometimes comedian and devil’s advocate.
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Objective board realist/contrarian; sometimes comedian and devil’s advocate.
This needs to be your signature
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This needs to be your signature
Lol that’s funny
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This needs to be your signature
+1
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This needs to be your signature
Profile updated and with new avatar.
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tastefully done
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tastefully done
Lol thanks. Nice to have my CHL avatar back. I used it years ago on the original HQ
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Profile updated and with new avatar.
Nicely done, all the way around.
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Ayo now 7-24 in three games after a 1-7 effort he had today.
He also finally attempted a three. Missed all three of them he took.
He might be better off in G league to get a lot of reps and to build skills and confidence.
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Ayo now 7-24 in three games after a 1-7 effort he had today.
He also finally attempted a three. Missed all three of them he took.
He might be better off in G league to get a lot of reps and to build skills and confidence.
Or maybe he just had a bad start.
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Ayo now 7-24 in three games after a 1-7 effort he had today.
He also finally attempted a three. Missed all three of them he took.
He might be better off in G league to get a lot of reps and to build skills and confidence.
Its summer league... Drose was trash in it as well, he turned out OK
hard for players to get up and play super hard for literally nothing
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Its summer league... Drose was trash in it as well, he turned out OK
hard for players to get up and play super hard for literally nothing
Well considering Ayo is playing for a roster spot, it’s a little different than D Rose. It should not be a question or difficult for Ayo to get up considering his NBA career and future is on the line.
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Its summer league... Drose was trash in it as well, he turned out OK
hard for players to get up and play super hard for literally nothing
And it’s also a very small sample size.
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And it’s also a very small sample size.
that too
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Three games and over 75 minutes game time against mostly non roster NBA guys is not just a bad start.
He is not taking advantage of the opportunity at all so far. He should be sticking out like Williams and Simonovic at least part of the time.
These summer league games are basically organized workouts to feature their draft picks and a few top non roster guys they want to look at.
The rest of guys are practice players like Giorgi.
For a guy like Ayo- he is not a lottery pick and has no guaranteed rotation role. If he was doing well he could be sliding up to the 6th guard/wing spot and possible minutes behind Ball, LaVine, DeRozan, Caruso, and White.
They can still make some moves and likely will to try to fill out their bench and figure out the deal with Markkanen.
Let's just say he is not doing himself any favors.
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You may be 100% correct, but I don’t think his first 3 summer league games are going to determine his immediate future.
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Anyone seen the games?
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Yeah, the first one was on ESPN.
Others on NBA TV.
There are full game replays online if you wish to hunt around a little bit.
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I’ve seen two of them and am not impressed at all by Ayo in summer league play.
The Bulls have pretty much made him what Underwood did to Mark Smith. Go stand in the corner….
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I’ve seen two of them and am not impressed at all by Ayo in summer league play.
The Bulls have pretty much made him what Underwood did to Mark Smith. Go stand in the corner….
That may be the last place I would want him shooting from.
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I’ve seen two of them and am not impressed at all by Ayo in summer league play.
The Bulls have pretty much made him what Underwood did to Mark Smith. Go stand in the corner….
Can't really play him on the ball in half court. He is not a lead guard anywhere except at Illinois.
He is OK in transition.
The fact he has only taken 3 three point shots is bizarre.
He had 5 months to work on the NBA distance and to improve his 3 ball.
He needs a decent final game. These do matter. How else do you evaluate where these young players are at except in live game situations. And this isn't anywhere near the game speed and defense they will face in real games.
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I’m not gonna come out and say that I have a feeling he’s gonna get cut. But I kinda have a feeling he’s gonna get cut.
This is an AOTC nominee, btw.
Well that didn’t last too long….
https://twitter.com/shamscharania/status/1426330291443052544?s=21
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I’ll stand by my original thought.
That’s a cuttable salary.
Doubling down, motherfucker!😂
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He got 2 years for 2.4 million. That is NBA minimum.
Not a big commitment, but good for him.
My thought is he stays up at beginning of season while they wait for White.
He then might hang around if he has done OK.
He needs to figure some things out.
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https://twitter.com/NBA/status/1426330633492631555?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1426330633492631555%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdknation.draftkings.com%2Fnba%2F2021%2F8%2F13%2F22621594%2Fnba-summer-league-2021-results-friday-scores-stats-recap-timberwolves-bucks-lakers-clippers
Here you go. As she says...."Kuminga not playin' "...
Ayo needs to show what he got. It's a grownass man's league.
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I do think he has a chance to be a contributor on an NBA team. Sticking immediately and finding a role may be the most challenging part for him.
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He got 2 years for 2.4 million. That is NBA minimum.
Not a big commitment, but good for him.
My thought is he stays up at beginning of season while they wait for White.
He then might hang around if he has done OK.
He needs to figure some things out.
Damn right, good for him. Making a little bit of money. He was a good Illini.
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Garza looking pretty good in summer league.
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Garza looking pretty good in summer league.
Putting up some solid numbers. Already had NBA 3ball range and a nice stroke.
Good for him.
Edit:
Another big night tonight. 20/14.
Is shooting 42% from 3 in summer ball. 6/14.
He is slow but can score, rebound, is physical, smart, and creates match-up issues.
Might have played himself into a role.
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Putting up some solid numbers. Already had NBA 3ball range and a nice stroke.
Good for him.
Edit:
Another big night tonight. 20/14.
Is shooting 42% from 3 in summer ball. 6/14.
He is slow but can score, rebound, is physical, smart, and creates match-up issues.
Might have played himself into a role.
I think he’ll have a better NBA career than Ayo honestly.
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Putting up some solid numbers. Already had NBA 3ball range and a nice stroke.
Good for him.
Edit:
Another big night tonight. 20/14.
Is shooting 42% from 3 in summer ball. 6/14.
He is slow but can score, rebound, is physical, smart, and creates match-up issues.
Might have played himself into a role.
I was ahead of the curve on Garza
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Putting up some solid numbers. Already had NBA 3ball range and a nice stroke.
Good for him.
Edit:
Another big night tonight. 20/14.
Is shooting 42% from 3 in summer ball. 6/14.
He is slow but can score, rebound, is physical, smart, and creates match-up issues.
Might have played himself into a role.
Laimbeer 2.0 at .02 meanness of the original.... ;D
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Looks like Ayo had better game tonight.
Got 21 shots and scored 26 points with a lineup that sat Williams and Dotson.
Finished the 4 game set 18-45 and 1-8 from 3.
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Ayo was really good last night. Controlled the game on both ends.
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Ayo was really good last night. Controlled the game on both ends.
Here are some highlights. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49CVzuayTl8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49CVzuayTl8)
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Ayo had 19 in a blowout Monday night.
Finished 25-59 overall and 1-11 from three.
1.6 Assist per game and 1.6 TO per game, and 4.4 Rebounds per game.
https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/summer/1/NBA-Summer-League/47/stats/Chicago-Bulls/4 (https://basketball.realgm.com/nba/summer/1/NBA-Summer-League/47/stats/Chicago-Bulls/4)
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😂🤣 Tempo gonna Tempo.
And….
Jobu gonna Jobu his ass!
This take was significantly behind the curve.
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Ayo now 7-24 in three games after a 1-7 effort he had today.
He also finally attempted a three. Missed all three of them he took.
He might be better off in G league to get a lot of reps and to build skills and confidence.
Behind the curve?
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Or maybe he just had a bad start.
Not behind the curve?
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You are in the lead to snatch the HQ AOTC award from 97.
https://www.myinstants.com/instant/fail-horn/
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Quote from: Jobu on August 04, 2021, 04:07:17 PM
Have you seen Ayo defend anyone? Especially of NBA caliber?
Maybe you have, but I haven’t.
Ayo has a hill to climb to make this team.
What? No gut feeling joke?
Had to copy and paste since Jobu scrubbed his history.
https://www.myinstants.com/instant/fail-horn/
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Not sure you can take a victory lap this early in the season, but the Bulls appear to be better with Ayo. In time we will see if the Illini are better without him as many here have proclaimed.
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Not sure you can take a victory lap this early in the season, but the Bulls appear to be better with Ayo. In time we will see if the Illini are better without him as many here have proclaimed.
It is early, no doubt. But some were doubting he’d even make the team. I’d have left all of this alone, but in the other thread, Judge Judy, whose life mission is to make sure I am never able to say I’m correct about anything came in with the “he already has” comment in the other thread.
I specifically tried to word that post so as not to draw any real attention, but of course, if I claim even a morsel of AOTCedness, JJ has to interject.
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And i also thought I’d point out that I literally exterminated his hero Jobu from the board.
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How do you like the new word I created? AOTCedness. That could get some run here.
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Damn, I tried adding “Tempo34: leading the board in AOTCedness since 2005ish” to my sig, but it says no more than three lines.
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Heh heh.
Tempo said "upside."
And leave it to Robb to not understand the difference between lottery and 2nd round “upside.”
No one bats an eye if a 2nd rounder doesn’t make a team. Therefore, they are taking a stab on a player that literally every other team passed on in hopes that that player can play a meaningful role on a winning team. That is a different type of “upside” from Zion Williamson upside.
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And i also thought I’d point out that I literally exterminated his hero Jobu from the board.
My hero 😂
Damn you really are a drama queen.
You also enjoy seeing/hearing yourself talk.
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My hero 😂
Damn you really are a drama queen.
You also enjoy seeing/hearing yourself talk.
Just keep on ankle-biting. Maybe you’ll rip out my Achilles’ tendon someday.
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Just keep on ankle-biting. Maybe you’ll rip out my Achilles’ tendon someday.
Sure
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Sure
Face it, your life mission is to keep me from being able to claim credit on anything. It keeps you up at night.
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Face it, your life mission is to keep me from being able to claim credit on anything. It keeps you up at night.
Holy shit dude, you think WAY too much of yourself.
It’s all part of the board and think it’s funny to play into it. This is fun to me and you honestly think some shit like this. 😂
I can see Tempo at home….
https://youtu.be/HMRX-Wj2WOk
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Judge Judy actually comes up with a funny response. Always expect the unexpected. It’s still true, though. Judge Judy’s life mission is to make sure I can never claim to be right on anything. Especially sports related.
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Judge Judy actually comes up with a funny response. Always expect the unexpected. It’s still true, though. Judge Judy’s life mission is to make sure I can never claim to be right on anything. Especially sports related.
It’s not that you can’t be right, but you’re not right all you claim to be. And you persist to think you are which perpetuates the memes that you think we all just make up. Go back to the finger pointing I explained a while back. Reevaluate.
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It’s not that you can’t be right, but you’re not right all you claim to be. And you persist to think you are which perpetuates the memes that you think we all just make up. Go back to the finger pointing I explained a while back. Reevaluate.
Dude, you literally interject every time I lay ANY claim to being right on anything. You’re probably the 8 to 1 leader in this regard.
All it took was a “highly convinced Ayo could contribute sooner rather than later” for you to come in with your finger wagging.
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Dude, you literally interject every time I lay ANY claim to being right on anything. You’re probably the 8 to 1 leader in this regard.
All it took was a “highly convinced Ayo could contribute sooner rather than later” for you to come in with your finger wagging.
I love how much of a rise you get out of it and how bad you need to prove yourself. It’s that yearning and need for validation you have, Stuart “Wayne” Smalley.
YOU are the one that literally stays up at night posting all by yourself here about how “right” you are about EVERYTHING. Calling posters out and talking to yourself. You NEED that.
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“Need?” No. Not really. I’ve moved passed that. Earned. Perhaps.
Better than having shit for opinions, and ankle biting all day like judge Judy.
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Tempo: I was highly convinced Ayo could contribute sooner rather than later.
JudgeJudy: No!!! No, no, no, no!!!
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Zing!