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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Judge Judy on March 14, 2021, 05:17:59 PM
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Discuss here. That Gonzaga bracket looks tough!
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Were gonna get loyola 2nd rd and ok st sweet 16 bama elite 8
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Bucknuts looking up at Baylor. So Michigan gets the 4th #1
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We get Drexel in the first round
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loyola ugh. a team with a mission
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Ok St in our region. Damn.
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Cuse too. We could see our old friend Alan Griffin down the line.
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Were gonna get loyola 2nd rd and ok st sweet 16 bama elite 8
That’s some bogus shit, but they love their games within the game. Gotta beat who the put in front of ya though. You wanna be the best, you gotta beat the best! Let’s fucking go!
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I really didn’t want to see OK St on that 4 line but at least we got Houston instead of Alabama I think that’s good idk. I really wanted to be on the Zaga side of the bracket.
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I really didn’t want to see OK St on that 4 line but at least we got Houston instead of Alabama I think that’s good idk. I really wanted to be on the Zaga side of the bracket.
Agreed
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Glad i took friday off
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I don't love our draw, but, you gotta win 6. Fuck it.
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Oklahoma State turns the ball over like crazy. How did Michigan get a higher overall seed than us?
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Houston the #2 seed. Nothing would please me more than kicking Sampscum's ass out of the tourney.
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I don't love our draw, but, you gotta win 6. Fuck it.
Yep, this team is on a mission and we can beat anybody in our way.
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what a run we will have to make
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I don't love our draw, but, you gotta win 6. Fuck it.
To quote the Nature Boy Ric Flair
"To be the man, you gotta beat the man"
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Bring 'em on!
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Pitino's scumbag ass made it in? Fuck.
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Michigan is gonna be out early lol.
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Oklahoma State turns the ball over like crazy. How did Michigan get a higher overall seed than us?
Michigan was higher? I thought we got the third 1 seed.
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Michigan was higher? I thought we got the third 1 seed.
I think we did. Michigan is on Gonzaga's half.
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I think Ok St is the biggest threat in our bracket.
West Virginia and Houston aren't scary.
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It's one loss and go home season. All games are scary.
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I'm just happy there is (finally) an NCAA Tournament without Duke or Kentucky.
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Michigan without Livers and Brooks hobbled may have trouble getting past second game.
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FWIW, both CBS analysts pick a Gonzaga - Illinois championship final, with the Zags winning it all.
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FWIW, both CBS analysts pick a Gonzaga - Illinois championship final, with the Zags winning it all.
Let's get there and take our chances.
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Let's focus on Drexel first. They actually kinda scare me the most with our tendency to play down to the level of our opposition this year. Hopefully that's past us now.
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I think I’ve seen a few Illini teams that were better, but this might be the most well-rounded Illini team we’ve had.
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FWIW, both CBS analysts pick a Gonzaga - Illinois championship final, with the Zags winning it all.
Hope we get to see that game!
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My guess is we have to deal with OKST and West VA to get to FF.
Then it is Baylor.
Then Zags if they make it.
Nothing easy.
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Still can’t believe OKST is on the 4 line and in our bracket. I have just had this bad feeling about them being in our bracket as a 4 for several days. Lots of people had them as the last 2 seed as of this morning. So basically to get to the FF we have to beat 2 2 seeds. Then again we just beat 2 2 seeds in 2 days
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Loads of storylines in our region:
Loyola (in state school)
OK St (Ayo vs Cade, the program Underwood ditched after only 1 season to come here)
Cuse (Alan Griffin)
WVU (Underwood against his former boss Huggins)
Houston (Sampscum. Need I say more?)
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Fran’s on the B1G Network and he’s such an asshole.
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How doe Michigan get a easier draw?!
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How, doe?
🤣
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Love Houston as our 2 draw.
The Loyola bit sucks but it's not a bad 8-9 draw. Way better than seeing Okla-Mizzou.
Don't love Drexel being the 16 but we should demolish them.
I hate the Ok St. draw and you will never convince me the room doesn't do this soap opera shit on purpose. There's 0 travel considerations and they shoved Ok St and WV as 3 and 4 in the same region ffs.
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GA Tech as a 9 is a problem
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Love Houston as our 2 draw.
The Loyola bit sucks but it's not a bad 8-9 draw. Way better than seeing Okla-Mizzou.
Don't love Drexel being the 16 but we should demolish them.
I hate the Ok St. draw and you will never convince me the room doesn't do this soap opera shit on purpose. There's 0 travel considerations and they shoved Ok St and WV as 3 and 4 in the same region ffs.
Loyola lost the only real game they had to play all year against a shitty Wisconsin team. We will destroy Loyola if we play them. We should beat Ok St too. They have no one to stop Kofi and Ayo/Cunningham just cancel out. Get past Ok St and it gets easier. West Virginia the hardest game in our bracket if we have to play them. I think LSU beats Michigan lol.
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GA Tech as a 9 is a problem
Them being a 9 is real odd since they gave North Carolina a 8 seed. I would probably prefer to play Tech though over Carolina, but Tech has won 8 straight games.
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Yeah I think LSU beats Michigan too.
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How, doe?
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Wow. Didn't see that one coming.
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Some positive memories to get us hyped
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmwQPOlR3RI
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What a fuckin train wreck. Lol
Why have you been on GOEMAW harassing Kansas St fans?
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I really didn’t want to see OK St on that 4 line but at least we got Houston instead of Alabama I think that’s good idk. I really wanted to be on the Zaga side of the bracket.
WHAT A RUN ON SENTENCE !!!!!!
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This can't be the real Jasn88Cub as there are no misspellings.
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I wasn’t teasing Jasn for the misspelling but rather the fact he made the exact same post here and on Loyalty within moments of each other.
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My guess is we have to deal with OKST and West VA to get to FF.
Then it is Baylor.
Then Zags if they make it.
Nothing easy.
Predicting how the tournament will shake out ain't easy either 8)
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FiveThirtyEight has projected the following (% chance to win the NCAA Tournament):
Gonzaga (1) 27%
Baylor (1) 14%
Illinois (1) 14%
Iowa (2) 6%
Houston (2) 5%
Michigan (1) 4%
Ohio State (2) 4%
Alabama (2) 3%
Kansas (3) 2%
Virginia (4) 2%
All other teams received 1% or less.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-march-madness-predictions/
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Illinois opened as at -21.5 over Drexel. Line is currently Illinois -23.0.
https://www.oddsshark.com/ncaab/odds
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FiveThirtyEight has projected the following (% chance to win the NCAA Tournament):
Gonzaga (1) 27%
Baylor (1) 14%
Illinois (1) 14%
Iowa (2) 6%
Houston (2) 5%
Michigan (1) 4%
Ohio State (2) 4%
Alabama (2) 3%
Kansas (3) 2%
Virginia (4) 2%
All other teams received 1% or less.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-march-madness-predictions/
Really crazy to think that Gonzaga—the undefeated runaway favorite—still only gets a 1 in 4 chance to win. And it’s saying there’s only slightly better than 50% chance that one of the obviously best three teams in the country will win the tourney.
Watched the selection show and then all the breakdowns and analysis and almost everyone has us facing the Zags in the title game with them winning it.
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12:15 PM start against Drexel. Not ideal for me, but oh well.
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12:15 PM start against Drexel. Not ideal for me, but oh well.
Got a surgery or something?
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I don't love our draw, but, you gotta win 6. Fuck it.
I’d take this draw over what the 89 team faced in a hot minute
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The 8/9 matchups are some of the most brutal I've ever seen in a bracket. LSU, UNC, Oklahoma, Missouri. I actually think illinois caught a break getting L-IL/GT.
I also wouldn't be shocked if Liberty beats Oklahoma states ass.
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The 8/9 matchups are some of the most brutal I've ever seen in a bracket. LSU, UNC, Oklahoma, Missouri. I actually think illinois caught a break getting L-IL/GT.
I also wouldn't be shocked if Liberty beats Oklahoma states ass.
I think this is a year where chalk really means shit outside of Zaga,Illinois, and Baylor.
All of these other teams are capable of losing to almost anybody in the field.
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Since it’s March madness and all here is some great insight from Bob Knight.
https://youtu.be/hWDGmkTKOtE
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We get Drexel in the first round
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The 8/9 matchups are some of the most brutal I've ever seen in a bracket. LSU, UNC, Oklahoma, Missouri. I actually think illinois caught a break getting L-IL/GT.
I also wouldn't be shocked if Liberty beats Oklahoma states ass.
Maybe. Loyola makes me nervous though. They’re really good, and they would be even more motivated than a normal opponent to beat the big state school.
Nobody else in our bracket makes me as nervous as them, actually. Maybe OK State. That’s not to say I’m sure we will cruise through, and we do play down to the competition way too often. I don’t think our draw is bad at all though.
Although on the other hand, Loyola is a team that relies primarily on their big man, and we usually don’t have a problem with teams like that because our big man is better.
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FiveThirtyEight has projected the following (% chance to win the NCAA Tournament):
Gonzaga (1) 27%
Baylor (1) 14%
Illinois (1) 14%
Iowa (2) 6%
Houston (2) 5%
Michigan (1) 4%
Ohio State (2) 4%
Alabama (2) 3%
Kansas (3) 2%
Virginia (4) 2%
All other teams received 1% or less.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2021-march-madness-predictions/
Kind of surprised that OKSt doesn't have more than 1% given all the props they were getting on bracket shows last evening.
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Kind of surprised that OKSt doesn't have more than 1% given all the props they were getting on bracket shows last evening.
Watching those last night, it seemed for the most part the ANALysts just throw out random, outrageous predictions hoping they'll get a couple right.
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Kind of surprised that OKSt doesn't have more than 1% given all the props they were getting on bracket shows last evening.
the big 12 sucks and is super overrated as usual
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the big 12 sucks and is super overrated as usual
Agreed.
Also, teams led by a freshman don’t usually go that far in March. I don’t remember many examples of a team that relied so heavily on a single freshman winning the championship. Even Melo’s Syracuse team relied a lot less heavily on him than some people seem to think nowadays.
The only reason they scare me a little is that we seem to have problems defending big, athletic guards.
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Agreed.
Also, teams led by a freshman don’t usually go that far in March. I don’t remember many examples of a team that relied so heavily on a single freshman winning the championship. Even Melo’s Syracuse team relied a lot less heavily on him than some people seem to think nowadays.
The only reason they scare me a little is that we seem to have problems defending big, athletic guards.
During its 2003 championship run, Syracuse scored 462 points in 6 NCAA tournament games. Melo scored 121 of them (26.19%).
Freshmen Pervis Ellison (1986 Louisville) & Anthony Davis (2012 UK) were Final Four Most Outstanding Player of their respective NCAA championship teams. Of course, any time a team wins a championship, it's not just because of the efforts of one player.
In losing efforts, Mark Aguirre (1978-79 DePaul, lost in Final Four to Indiana State), Wayman Tisdale (1984-85 Oklahoma, lost to Memphis in Regional Final), Mike Conley, Jr. and Greg Oden (2006-07 Ohio State, lost to Florida in National Championship), and Derrick Rose (2007-08 Memphis, lost to Kansas in National Championship) come to mind.
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2 in the pink
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1 in the stink, amirite!
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Brackets already busted....
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App St was my pick to win it all. Fuck!
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UCLA tosses dwarf! Great start to the tourney!
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UCLA tosses dwarf! Great start to the tourney!
Jesus Christ. I turned it off. UCLA looked like shit. Down about 7-9 most of second half and nothing working.
Glad that little fuck is out. He got into fight with his own guy Brown in tunnel in first half. Screaming grabbing his jersey from behind chasing after him. Little piece of shit.
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Turns out Izzo’s thug ball doesn’t work in the tourney
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;D
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;D
We can all agree on that one.
Kumbaya
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And just in from my Sparty bro ...
Looks like Sparty just ran out of gas after the toll of playing thug ball to get their fucking asses in. He didn't include the last part tho, lol.
And playing after midnight.
Maybe they should have told Warren that they required a day game.
Sissoko played a clean 3 minutes, so Sparty has something to hang their hats on.
Fuck Izzo
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Has Underwood ever grabbed a player like that? I remember hoping he would beat the shit out of Mark Smith, but I don't think it ever happened.
Only in Tempo's mind.
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From an AP story in today's fishwrap ....
Illinois was a powerhouse once, but its last trip to the Final Four was in 2005, and that came nearly a decade after Lou Henson left and brought an end to a golden era for Illini hoops. Underwood said when he arrived four years ago, he did an informal poll of his players to start each season, asking them which team in the Big Ten plays the hardest.
“They would all say it’s Michigan State. Michigan State, Michigan State, Michigan State,” Underwood said. “Then, it was start of last year, before they finally figured out what I wanted to hear. They finally said ‘Us.’ They had to start believing that.”
I L L ......
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I enjoyed that too in the interview.
INI
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Only in Tempo's mind.
POTD
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And just in from my Sparty bro ...
Looks like Sparty just ran out of gas after the toll of playing thug ball to get their fucking asses in. He didn't include the last part tho, lol.
And playing after midnight.
Maybe they should have told Warren that they required a day game.
Sissoko played a clean 3 minutes, so Sparty has something to hang their hats on.
Fuck Izzo
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Last night was a great start to the tournament. All 4 games started with wide margins only for them to close down to the final possessions in each of the contests. Just watched Sharpe and Balis rip Izzo's ass this morning. Haha what a great start to this weekend. I fully expect the Illini to romp their way to the sweet 16. If we avoid Baylor we're going to win it all. !!!!!! fr!!
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POTD
Jesus, you guys are sensitive.
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POTD
“Tempo criticized Brad Underwood like two years ago, and my vagina still hurts over it. Wahhhh...”
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“Tempo criticized Brad Underwood like two years ago, and my vagina still hurts over it. Wahhhh...”
gotta agree with this take
1hr till the big dance begins, super excited babeeee
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“Tempo criticized Brad Underwood like two years ago, and my vagina still hurts over it. Wahhhh...”
Don't try and push the ball. Not your game. You are more of a Wisconsin type poster.
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Where is Breal, that Wisconsin poster ?
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Where is Breal, that Wisconsin poster ?
he comes on here once in a while to pretend he's a recruiting insider
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Last night was a great start to the tournament. All 4 games started with wide margins only for them to close down to the final possessions in each of the contests. Just watched Sharpe and Balis rip Izzo's ass this morning. Haha what a great start to this weekend. I fully expect the Illini to romp their way to the sweet 16. If we avoid Baylor we're going to win it all. !!!!!! fr!!
No offense but I hope this ages better than some of your predictions in the B1G games thread 😬
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“Tempo criticized Brad Underwood like two years ago, and my vagina still hurts over it. Wahhhh...”
Sounds like ECi being ECI.
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Don't try and push the ball. Not your game. You are more of a Wisconsin type poster.
Oh, please. When it comes to posters who’ve driven traffic around these parts for the last 16-17 years, I’m at or near the top of the shortlist.
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PA Man, just curious. How, exactly, does Tempo's cock taste? Nice, smoky flavor?
Please report back.
Like a succulent 12oz lobster tail smothered with delicious melted butter. Or so I’ve been told.
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Did you guys know Geico could save you hundreds on car insurance?
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PA Man, just curious. How, exactly, does Tempo's cock taste? Nice, smoky flavor?
Please report back.
Good stuff. How does Judge Judy's strap on taste?
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Oh boy. I haven't had lobster in a while.
Give me a call. All you can eat.
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Nice. I’m am not flaccid right now, I’ll tell ya that.
😂😂😂
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Good stuff. How does Judge Judy's strap on taste?
Should ask your mom, sister, and wife. They haven’t told you yet?!
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gotta love you homers, only 3 turds picked against us
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Damn, a Hokie player took out 2 Gators trying to pass. Hit the defender in the face with his forearm and another Gator in the face with the ball.
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Katz makes a strong point that it has to suck being a 14 seed and getting out to a 14 point lead the year that there are no fans going crazy for the upset
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Didn't take long for the madness to take hold
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No offense but I hope this ages better than some of your predictions in the B1G games thread
Which is exactly why I'm way overdue for 1.
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Ohio st down by 3 to Oral Roberts at halftime
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Ohio st down by 3 to Oral Roberts at halftime
Clark Kellogg was ripping on Florida for not fouling up 3 with 5 seconds to go, Gumble expertly trolled him "Clark's not happy with the Oral Roberts' score!"
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Who would you rather play next -- Ga Tech or Loyola?
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Doesn’t matter.
I'm not very familiar with either one, but I expect a much tougher game than today. Loyola might have added incentive to beat the big state school.
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Who would you rather play next -- Ga Tech or Loyola?
Don't care, but won't bug me if Sister Jean goes home today.
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I guess I gotta root for the football school, but ...
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We owe Ga Tech payback for 1985. Fuck Mark Price.
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Whichever team is less athletic
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I think Underwood might bring up the Drexel big man getting a double double.
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Bucknuts up 2 with the ball with 1:07 to go.
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Come on bucks, if a bunch of fundamentalist bible thumpers are gonna win today, it better be The fighting Falwells
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I hadn't seen Loyola at all, and now I'm intrigued to see Kofi vs Krutwig.
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If ORU wants to teach Illinois Mr Basketball that he should have gone to a hoops school, instead of a football school, I'm ok with that.
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OSU and overtime seem to go hand in hand a lot lately
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ORU-OSU OT!
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OSU comes up with a last shot from the Bruce Weber school of last shots
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OT for O$U and Oral Roberts
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OSU and overtime seem to go hand in hand a lot lately
three straight, yes?
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How many times has a 15 beaten a 2? 5,6 at most?
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OSU comes up with a last shot from the Bruce Weber school of last shots
A step back 3. Low IQ
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Liddell with 4 fouls. Might be an important note.
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three straight, yes?
I believe so
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How many times has a 15 beaten a 2? 5,6 at most?
1991 Richmond def. Syracuse 73-69
1993 Santa Clara def. Arizona 64-61
1997 Coppin State def. South Carolina 78-65
2001 Hampton def. Iowa State 58-57
2012 Lehigh def. Duke 75-70
2012 Norfolk State def. Missouri 86-84
2013 Florida Gulf Coast def. Georgetown 78-68
2016 Middle Tennessee def. Michigan State 90-81
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How many times has a 15 beaten a 2? 5,6 at most?
if OSI loses they deserve it for not sending washington or walker to the hoop on the last trip in regulation
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O$U is on the ropes!
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OSU looks to be going down minus a a great final 1:30
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Looks like Oral Roberts might just pull this off. They are definitely more aggressive than O$U. Upset city!!!!
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Tee up the B1G is overrated talk
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Wow; 85% shooter misses both.
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Duane Washington. Ouch.
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Washingoat
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ORU would have to choke now.
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Bucky not liking the oral.
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And down goes Ohio State. Wow, that’s some fucking March Madness!
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O$U has a chance still
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Suck it, tO$U!!!
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Tee up the B1G is overrated talk
I love a good upset, but, yeah.
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Down goes OSU.
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2 decent looks ouch Haha
Bye bye O$U
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Holy shit!
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Beezer Twelve Washingbeard went from channeling Kobe Bryant last Sunday to Ahmad Starks today
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I have to say, other than FGCU, ORU is the best looking 15-seed I’ve ever seen.
OSU sucked though. Washington just blew chunks down the stretch, and they did not take good shots.
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My brackets are fucked but LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
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Why couldn't that have been iowa? I'd love to see them lose first round.
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They had every chance to win it and couldn’t do it. Oral Roberts was the better team today.
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I have to say, other than FGCU, ORU is the best looking 15-seed I’ve ever seen.
OSU sucked though. Washington just blew chunks down the stretch, and they did not take good shots.
Santa Clara had one of the best point guards in NBA history, but you do you
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They had every chance to win it and couldn’t do it. Oral Roberts was the better team today.
That was a choke on the Illini vs Austin Peay or Dayton level
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Osu felated
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That FGCU squad was way under seeded. They had some insane dunkers and athletes overall.
Steve freaking Nash.
In other news it's pretty much Purdue left to protect us from Baylor
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Steve freaking Nash.
In other news it's pretty much Purdue left to protect us from Baylor
Yeah that’s my problem with it. I don’t wanna face Baylor again, but hey, what better story than paying them back to get to the championship. Fuck it, let’s do it! We want it, we gotta earn it. Give us the best and let’s kick their ass!
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Steve freaking Nash.
In other news it's pretty much Purdue left to protect us from Baylor
Ok Gramps
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Wins over Ohio State:
Oral Roberts - 1
Jim Harbaugh - 0
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Loyola going to be annoying.
A Wisconsin lite.
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Loyola not very active on defense right now.
We will destroy whoever wins this game.
You would think, but Loyola could be a booger on our finger.
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What the fuck. Ohio State sure picked a bad time to play like dogshit. Bad coaching, including playing offensively challenged Musa Jallow so many minutes and drawing up a really stupid play for the last shot in regulation. Bad FT shooting (9-18), a clip worse than Kofi's season average (54% per the announcers earlier today). Bad 3pt FG shooting (5-23), a dismal clip that would have been even worse without the "hot" (relatively speaking) 3-12 shooting by Dwayne Washington, Jr. More turnovers 15 than ORU (9). Oh, and the Hero Ball 3pt FG attempt by Dwayne Washinton, Jr. at the end of regulation when the game was tied. Drive it to the damn hoop. Of course, Liddell missing at least 2 FTs (including front end of 1-and-1) with less than 3 minutes left in 2nd half didn't help matters.
This game had a very "Illinois-esque" feel to it. I wonder if Dick Vitale will resurrect his head stand schtick.
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Barring an epic collapse, Loyola is our next opponent.
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I have to say, other than FGCU, ORU is the best looking 15-seed I’ve ever seen.
OSU sucked though. Washington just blew chunks down the stretch, and they did not take good shots.
Oral was the better team today.
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Looks like the Ramblers are the next one up
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I'll be nervous like always, but we should handle them.
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What the fuck. Ohio State sure picked a bad time to play like dogshit. Bad coaching, including playing offensively challenged Musa Jallow so many minutes and drawing up a really stupid play for the last shot in regulation. Bad FT shooting (9-18), a clip worse than Kofi's season average (54% per the announcers earlier today). Bad 3pt FG shooting (5-23), a dismal clip that would have been even worse without the "hot" (relatively speaking) 3-12 shooting by Dwayne Washington, Jr. More turnovers 15 than ORU (9). Oh, and the Hero Ball 3pt FG attempt by Dwayne Washinton, Jr. at the end of regulation when the game was tied. Drive it to the damn hoop. Of course, Liddell missing at least 2 FTs (including front end of 1-and-1) with less than 3 minutes left in 2nd half didn't help matters.
This game had a very "Illinois-esque" feel to it. I wonder if Dick Vitale will resurrect his head stand schtick.
Duane Washington played like Steph Curry against us. Today he played like Stephanie Curry
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I'll be nervous like always, but we should handle them.
God is on their side, though.
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Hope they’re ready to get buttfucked.
I want to buttfuck Sister Jean
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Would you fuck sister Jean?
Could you imagine popping a hundred year old cherry?
Think about that.
Sorry, Im not a member of a Salvadorean army.
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Santa Clara had one of the best point guards in NBA history, but you do you
That’s a long freaking time ago, I was like 14 or something, and I have no idea what seed they were. Congratulations on remembering though.
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Wins over Ohio State:
Oral Roberts - 1
Jim Harbaugh - 0
Lol, nice.
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Yes, and we will buttfuck them.
As long as Loyola doesn't go unconscious from beyond the arc, we win this comfortably. Kofi and Giorgi will eat Krutwig's soul then shit it out.
But they do call this Madness for a reason.
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Tennessee about to go down
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Jobu wants to buttfck something.
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Sorry dude, but fuck Ohio State. They didn’t show up ready to play.
And I thought they should have been given a 1 seed over Michigan. Lol.
They suck. I hope Liddell loses in the first round every year.
So, to summarize, fuck them.
Yeah, OSU didn't play with sense of determination & urgency like they did last Sunday against Illinois. Oral Roberts played better and deserved to win.
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Duane Washington played like Steph Curry against us. Today he played like Stephanie Curry
A total headfake on my bracket, I put them in the final four just based on his play vs. us - the last minute and all of OT he was a complete disaster. No excuse for that last shot.
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That Chad show looks so fucking stupid that it may actually be dumber than fucking Judge Judy.
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That’s a long freaking time ago, I was like 14 or something, and I have no idea what seed they were. Congratulations on remembering though.
I was living in Santa Clara, so already 5 years out of UIUC. While I congratulate you on probably not needing reading glasses yet, sucks that you didn't really get to see Ken Norman and Kenny Battle after you got out of diapers.
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The Liberty Fighting Jobu's hanging tough and Cade has 2 fouls, let's do this for Becki Falwell and let Jobu watch.
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Liberty trying to join Oral Roberts and Loyola in the holy trinity.
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Liberty trying to join Oral Roberts and Loyola in the holy trinity.
if we could get a Duke like draw in this tournament that would be fuckin sweet
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No Duke, Kentucky, Louisville, Notre Dame, Indiana or Michigan State in this year's 64 team NCAA Tournament. Can't say I'm disappointed.
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I’m super glad Duke is not in this, but I kinda miss hate watching those cocksuckers.
They were ranked 10th or so when we beat they ass this year.
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They were ranked 10th or so when we beat they ass this year.
Doesn't seem nearly as impressive now.
:-*
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That stupid screaming, yodeling bitch is at the Wiscy/UNC game.
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I think I homered my bracket, picked all the B1G teams to at least win their first games.
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Doesn't seem nearly as impressive now.
:-*
yeah, but it was fucking delicious at the time. Especially with K's "I don't know if we should even be playing games right now" BS.
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yeah, but it was fucking delicious at the time. Especially with K's "I don't know if we should even be playing games right now" BS.
K knew he was holding a bucket of shit.
LOL
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I think I homered my bracket, picked all the B1G teams to at least win their first games.
Me too.
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I think I homered my bracket, picked all the B1G teams to at least win their first games.
Me too except I picked UNC lol
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Who had OSU losing to Oral Roberts and a flatlining Wisconsin team working UNC?
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Who had OSU losing to Oral Roberts and a flatlining Wisconsin team working UNC?
Yeah I’d say 90% of brackets are all messed up already
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Who had OSU losing to Oral Roberts and a flatlining Wisconsin team working UNC?
Great first half by Wiscy.
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Oklahoma State looks quite pedestrian. I like our chances if we get that draw.
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Liberty is a solid ball team.
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They look pretty fuckin athletic to me.
Optical illusion given their court mates
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OK State has 56 points and only 4 assists. Liberty only down 6 despite 17 turnovers.
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Cunningham has some moves but he's not exactly doing the sort of filthy finishing Ayo's been up to lately - and Ayo's been doing it against Iowa and OSU, not Liberty
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Huh. Rick Barnes pulled a Rick Barnes.
I'll be damned.
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Purdue getting a fight from North texas
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Wisconsin beating up North Carolina 82-62 with less than a minute left.
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I took a shit in Hamlet's castle.
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Wisconsin beating up North Carolina 82-62 with less than a minute left.
They didn't look past their primes for once
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Purdue can’t stop that hamlet dude.
The Big Ten is just not closing so far
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Wisconsin beating up North Carolina 82-62 with less than a minute left.
That was a beat down.
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It's pretty cool that Haley Joel Osment is caoching the Mean Green. I hope somebody GIFs that segment where he kept reaching for his mask, kept realizing he was on TV, and then finally said FUCK IT.
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Purdue's offense is more Weber than OSU's last shot in regulation was.
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Who the fuck is the announcer in this game? God damn
Avery Johnson?
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Purdue shoots FTs like us
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Tied at 61. North Texas with the ball and a shot to win the game with 21 seconds to go.
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OT.
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Tied at 61. North Texas with the ball and a shot to win the game with 21 seconds to go.
A 1976 Chevy Vega.
Six cans of creamed corn.
Hectares.
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UNT off to a 7-0 start in OT. Boilers in serious trouble.
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Dude had a good look to win it.
I’m thinking Purdue takes it now.
Not looking so good now.
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UNT off to a 7-0 start in OT. Boilers in serious trouble.
Three blocks past the For Sale sign, veer right.
A Confederacy of Marquesses
Shazbot
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Another OT tourney loss for a Big Ten team.
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Wow B1G sucks. I guess I have to root for Iowa and Michigan because this is fuckinf embarrassing.
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Wow B1G sucks. I guess I have to root for Iowa and Michigan because this is fuckinf embarrassing.
No fucking way am I rooting for Iowa. I hope GCU takes their asses to the woodshed. Fuck those whiny ass farmboys.
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No fucking way am I rooting for Iowa. I hope GCU takes their asses to the woodshed. Fuck those whiny ass farmboys.
This^^^
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No fucking way am I rooting for Iowa. I hope GCU takes their asses to the woodshed. Fuck those whiny ass farmboys.
Bleep Iowa!!!!
I wouldn't root for them if they were playing a Cuban national team.
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So root for Rutgers. Problem solved.
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One time I was at Sears and I sharted my pants. Went to the bathroom, cleaned up, left my underwear on the floor in the stall and went home free ballin.
This surprises me very little.
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Ugly ass basketball on display with Rutgers/Clemson
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I think it's nice that Steve Pikiell had a little snack there.
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Syracuse up on the San Diago whale vaginas.
SDSU just chucking any first shot available. 3/20 from three. Cuse is getting a nice rest on defense.
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Imagine how much worse they'd feel if tOSU lost to Anal Roberts.
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Rutgers up 8
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While I don’t want to overlook Loyola (though I agree with Jobu’s sodomy assessment) I’m looking at the Sweet 16 and I think as long as we play OSU then we win, otherwise I’m worried
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Rutgers up 8
Nova Scotia means "New Scotland."
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Cuse looking good. Rutgers are terrible but my god Clemson has no idea how to box out and are trying to lose.
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I have a plan for this next possession: Have Geo Baker chuck one from 30.
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Or McConnell. That's fine, too.
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I’ll fully admit that I’ve sort of been wrong in my season-long faith in Rutgers. They seem to be less than the sum of their parts for too often. It was impossible for me to know this prior to the season so I won’t be too hard on myself.
They’ve three good guards, a very serviceable big man, a couple pick and pop wings that defend and rebound. That’s usually a pretty good recipe for tourney play.
Clemson isn’t garbage but I expected this Rutgers team to have a little spark in the tourney.
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Oh hey Rutgers wins!
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While I don’t want to overlook Loyola (though I agree with Jobu’s sodomy assessment) I’m looking at the Sweet 16 and I think as long as we play OSU then we win, otherwise I’m worried
????
Who would worry you then in S16 game other than OSU? Oregon State??
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????
Who would worry you then in S16 game other than OSU? Oregon State??
Jeez even 97 probably got that dumb joke
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God damn, I’m wrong again (sort of)
You were behind the curve. But on the other hand, you were kind of right.
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I guess BIG TEN is not greatest conference of all time?
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Who's the Illini comp for Duane Washington, the guy Buckeyes fans love/hate?
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Cuse picks up the first win for the ACC
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Villanova looks kind of like ass, ngl
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The tOSU choke was pretty epic. Not terribly surprised by MSU losing to UCLA and was anyone at all excited about this Purdue team going into tourney? And Purdue is famous for sucking in the tourney.
This is the Gene Keady thing all over again. Painter gets tons of props for his coaching chops and it’s hard to argue. They compete for conference titles by game planning familiar foes. They muck up the game and force their opponents to defend for 20+ seconds...a good way to get into the top half of B1G regular season but falls flat in tourney play.
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I guess BIG TEN is not greatest conference of all time?
Didn't Big East get 3 into ff 80's?
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Didn't Big East get 3 into ff 80's?
Yes
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It would have been embarrassing if WVU lost to More Anal State.
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It would have been embarrassing if WVU lost to More Anal State.
WVA has looked pretty good at different times. Played Gonzaga close. Could have beaten Baylor.
Hard to figure. If we get them we do not want to see the good WVA.
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Liddell needs a football photoshopped into his hands, and captioned with "a field goal would have sent it to a 2nd OT, but Washington just came up short"
(https://i.ibb.co/cT5rwQq/Screenshot-20210320-061047.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gg1RdJY)
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Anyone a little nervous for tomorrow facing Loyola?
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Anyone a little nervous for tomorrow facing Loyola?
No. “Eager” is the word I’m going with.
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https://twitter.com/barstoolsports/status/1372948390326235143?s=21
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Liddell needs a football photoshopped into his hands, and captioned with "a field goal would have sent it to a 2nd OT, but Washington just came up short"
(https://i.ibb.co/cT5rwQq/Screenshot-20210320-061047.jpg) (https://ibb.co/gg1RdJY)
(https://i.ibb.co/LSQgXRk/231-AB6-D7-3460-41-B2-88-BB-EF485963-B2-EF.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Good start. Someone will finish, but it wont be EJ. Make the 1st of a one and one and he woulda finished ORU tho.
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Anyone a little nervous for tomorrow facing Loyola?
I get nervous for every Illini NCAA tourney game, considering our history in the tournament and that we sometimes play down. Hopefully Anal Roberts is a reminder to not take any game for granted.
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I get nervous for every Illini NCAA tourney game, considering our history in the tournament and that we sometimes play down. Hopefully Anal Roberts is a reminder to not take any game for granted.
x2
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Yeah. OSU has some fcktard fans.
But it is Ohio.
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Guessing it’s gamblers that got their asses handed to them.
One of them that messaged him is being investigated. It appears the kid played on a state championship team called Meade HS in Ohio in ‘14-‘15. So shouldn’t be hard to find or trace back to who it is. Also it appears the name was Jefe??
Of course I’ve seen tons of comments making this something that is racist and turning it political. It’s sickening. The dude just had his life threatened by multiple people. It’s a safety issue.
I would imagine it’s from gambling losses someone suffered, but idk. Once money is involved, things can get pretty scary. Especially if the lose a lot of it and owe others. Scary business for some.
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Yeah. Assholes making threats.
And you guys are probably right there is money involved.
Crazy cuz this kid carried this team all year that totally overachieved
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Yeah. Assholes making threats.
And you guys are probably right there is money involved.
Crazy cuz this kid carried this team all year that totally overachieved
If they wanted to blame someone, it should have been Washington. Liddell had a good game.
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Who's the Illini comp for Duane Washington, the guy Buckeyes fans love/hate?
Demetri McCamey comes to mind.
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I've looked at some ElevenWarriors threads. A lot of wtf Holtmann, why are guards bricking the last 3 all of the time ? Just drive, shoot free throws.
We know what Washington can do when he's hot tho.
I'll agree with everyone else. tOSU is nowhere near the team they were this year without Liddell. The guy has a nice shot, among other things.
Check this thread .......
https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-state-basketball/2021/03/121780/can-you-identify-ohio-state-basketball-players-based-solely-on-the-shots-they-take
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Patrick Ewing is getting more air time than Jerry Jones during a Cowboys game.
Need another game to start. Tired of looking at his ugly ass.
It's hilarious that a MSG security guard didn't know who he was. 7 feet tall and ugly as sin - not many people more recognizable in America.
And his jersey is in the rafters.
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Buffs draining 3's.
Ewing on the same end of the floor with his defense.
Nobody within 10 feet of the shooters. lol.
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Colorado 11/16 on threes.
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Buffs draining 3's.
Ewing on the same end of the floor with his defense.
Nobody within 10 feet of the shooters. lol.
Well, Ewing was within 10 feet when the ball was on his side of the arc.
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I'll forget these big ten losses if EWU can beat Kansas.
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Bunny Colvin in the boot
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Georgetown is disappointing me
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It's hilarious that a MSG security guard didn't know who he was. 7 feet tall and ugly as sin - not many people more recognizable in America.
And his jersey is in the rafters.
That was a funny story.
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I'll forget these big ten losses if EWU can beat Kansas.
That would blow up my bracket. Badly.
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I'll forget these big ten losses if EWU can beat Kansas.
Outplaying them so far.
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Texas southern can’t hit the broadside of a fucking barn
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#35, whoever he is, puts up 35 in the E. Washington, where ever that is, game vs Kansas for a career high.
Congrats.
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let's go gauchos
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let's go gauchos
ouch
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Not quite enough for the Groucho Marx
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I had no idea Rick Pitino was still coaching
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Pitino pressuring Bama like it's a Sicilian waitress.
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Come on Bama! Get scumbag Pitino out of the tournament.
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Why is our game at 11 tomorrow? Ugh. No build up. Wouldn’t you think they’d have the 1 seeds on closer to prime time?
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Good point, but I’m thinking we’ll be the only game on for about a half hour.
I think we're getting the national title contender treatment with no other game running and Nantz/Raftery calling the game.
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Wouldn’t you think they’d have the 1 seeds on closer to prime time?
Yes, but only if you're stupid.
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Was coming to post the same thing. Let’s put the most intriguing matchup of the day on before murph’s even had his first mimosa
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LET'S GOOOOOO GCU!!!
Antelopes baby!!!!! Send those Iowa fucks back to their shitty corn fields
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LET'S GOOOOOO GCU!!!
Antelopes baby!!!!! Send those Iowa fucks back to their shitty corn fields
Yeah! Our corn fields > Iowa’s!!!
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todays games are not as exciting
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Yeah! Our corn fields > Iowa’s!!!
Damn straight!
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Looks like TBS, TNT and Truetv get the prime time games. Rutgers vs Houston is on TBS.
CBS is doing their network stuff. We're on CBS and the 1st of 3 games.
I'd rather get the TBS evening slot.
VCU gets covided. Oregon moves on.
My brackets are in quarantine.
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Man VCU that sucks, Gets me so nervous
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Yeah! Our corn fields > Iowa’s!!!
The cornfields in the western suburbs aren't nearly as good.
C'mon GCU, buckle down on the whiny asses.
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anyone pick OHIO?
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anyone pick OHIO?
Yep. Well coached. Nba level guard. Who knows.
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anyone pick OHIO?
Yes. They were a trendy pick by the "experts."
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OK, GCU get off to a good start. Get a quick foul on Garza.
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Can you imagine the whiny Digger Phelps and the whiny Fran together? Mercy.
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This might be the best I've seen Maryland look. Impressive first half.
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Should have known better than to root for a Bryce Drew coached team in the Madness.
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I heard Turgeon and Hurley got into it. lol.
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I had Ohio-UCSB in the next round.
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I had Ohio-UCSB in the next round.
"Ditto."
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C'mon Okies, send Cuonzo and Misery home.
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C'mon Okies, send Cuonzo and Misery home.
Go Lon!
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Ohio on the verge of knocking out the defending champs. Up 7 with a minute to go.
Our close call against them early in the season looks much better now.
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Maryland trying to choke this one away.
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Ohio having inbounding issues. Let's see what happens here
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Ohio having inbounding issues. Let's see what happens here
UVA making it interesting. 7 points in 12 seconds.
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Ohio wins
Preston with a near triple double
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Ohio wins
Preston with a near triple double
Kid is a player.
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Oklahoma up 8 on Mizzou, just over 2 minutes to go.
Send Clownzo's ass packing.
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6 Big Ten teams advance.
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i had uconn going to elite 8 lol
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Clownzo going home. Fuck you!
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LOL there goes Mark Smith and Mizzery
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LOL there goes Mark Smith and Mizzery
Zero tourney wins for Smith and Tilmon
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Zero tourney wins for Smith and Tilmon
I picked Lon before they had the positive test.
After they had the positive test, I filled another bracket. I still picked Lon.
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Tempo and CT are very disappointed.
Just 3-5 to more minutes a game and Mark Smith would have surpassed MJ as the GOAT
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6 Big Ten teams advance.
Must have heard all the 'Big Ten is overrated' chatter yesterday
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Harms still playing for BYU? Whatsamatta, Badgers roster already full?
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Was coming to post the same thing. Let’s put the most intriguing matchup of the day on before murph’s even had his first mimosa
You underestimate me
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Texas looks pretty good and they still might lose
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Look at this fat fuck on Abilene Christian rumbling across the court
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Just 3-5 to more minutes a game and Mark Smith would have surpassed MJ as the GOAT
He never deserved to be yelled at hahaha
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Don’t you mean Abilene Christian, alma mater of Adam Shaheen?
Baby Gronk!
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If I were Shaka, I'd take the Marquette job right now. Don't even wait for the end of the game.
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Shaka is in the danger zone
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Wow Shaka is terrible, better than Groce, but both are crap.
Playing a small team that forces more turnovers than anyone in the nation and all I see is small ball being played to counter them. WTF. Terrible game plan, and just like that Texas will fold and with that maybe his job.
I wonder if his wife will be happy with the next college town they end up moving to in the summer.
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It's kind of pathetic
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Jones may have saved them
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Lol no way. If this guy makes both lol
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Wow what a stupid foul !!!!!!
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Awful way to lose a game.
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Jesus. Texas looked awful. 23 TOs
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I just became a Joe Pleasant fan.
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Shaka LOL bro
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Abilene shot 29%. Texas turned it over 23 times.
Abomination of a game.
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Remember when Shaka turned us down for stupid reasons? Fuuuuuuck that guy and fuck Texas.
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Eases the path for Michigan FF and totally fucked my bracket in that region but totally worth it. AB didn’t even look like the belonged on the same court as Texas.
Tourney champs from ACC, Little 12 and Big East all bounced in first round.
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Also fuck Courtney Ramey.
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First time in NCAA tournament history that 4 teams seeded 13 or higher have reached the Round of 32.
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Middle kid had North Texas beating Purdue and only missed 4 of the first round. Has Illinois winning it all.
Youngest kid had AC beating Texas but missed on half the games today while having Drake in the FF and SDSU in the EE. Has Illinois losing to OSU in round of 16.
Oldest only missed 4 too but was wayyyy too bullish on BYU and Purdue. Also has Florida State losing to Illinois in title game.
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First time in NCAA tournament history that 4 teams seeded 13 or higher have reached the Round of 32.
Probably not surprising. Just a lot of flawed teams. Pretty rare even the supposed good teams stringing good games together.
I think any team not named Gonzaga, Baylor, or Illinois could get beat by almost anyone else in field on a given night.
The 3 ball and tourney choking creates a lot of chaos.
We need to take care of business early and not let Loyola hang around into middle of second half.
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Probably not surprising. Just a lot of flawed teams. Pretty rare even the supposed good teams stringing good games together.
I think any team not named Gonzaga, Baylor, or Illinois could get beat by almost anyone else in field on a given night.
The 3 ball and tourney choking creates a lot of chaos.
We need to take care of business early and not let Loyola hang around into middle of second half.
I had Ohio beating Virginia because of Preston. His performance against us was no fluke. Kid is a legit baller. Ohio seems like a well coached team overall.
I really thought OSU would make it at least past the first round, but Duane Washington had other ideas.
Purdue and Texas both have a history of flaming out early. Those didn't surprise me.
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Picking Ohio and North Texas seemed like a non-brainer.
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I also picked Abilene Christian knowing nothing about them. Seeing Shaka's results in Austin was enough.
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I had Ohio beating Virginia because of Preston. His performance against us was no fluke. Kid is a legit baller. Ohio seems like a well coached team overall.
I really thought OSU would make it at least past the first round, but Duane Washington had other ideas.
Purdue and Texas both have a history of flaming out early. Those didn't surprise me.
I totally forgot about preston playing against us, seems like ages ago
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I had Texas and OSU both to the regional final. LOL
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OK, Wisky, Your turn.
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Go Rutgers?
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Sure, why not. Wouldn't that be another nut punch for the day ?
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Saw Rutgers was up 9 in closing minutes and decided to start watching. Big miss for Rutgers on alley oop and then left Houston open for an easy 3. Would love for Houston to feel our pain.
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Lead down to 5.
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Urining this away.
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Now that’s how you piss down your leg, Rutgers.
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only 2 big ten teams left
Iowa and Michigan
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Rutgers. Wow. That was painful.
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Don't do a Rutgers, Oral Roberts.
Up 2 on Fla
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Sweet 16 for ORU. 19-23 at the line.
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Bigger choke job. Rutgers or Jean Van de Velde?
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Grand Prize: tempotime character
Runner up: Jobu’s “Peace Out” thread
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Grand Prize: tempotime character
Runner up: Jobu’s “Peace Out” thread
😂
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A Beaver nightcap was good for the soul. Anyone else think Cunningham looks older than a Frosh?
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Cunningham looked as bad as Ayo yesterday.
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Custard. I would think your Baylor pick is looking better than the morans in front of you that picked us.
But I don't know how the scoring works. Your max looks good, but your total not necessarily so much ?
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Cunningham looked as bad as Ayo yesterday.
You are quite the homer.
He had 24 points, made 4 threes, 5 steals, got to the line. Only 1 TO and was focus of D.
Ayo had his worst game of the year on offense and defense.
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Oregon just put 56 points on Iowa.
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Oregon just put 56 points on Iowa.
They should easily break 100. Fuck Iowa.
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So the B1G is all hat and no cattle I see.
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So the B1G is all hat and no cattle I see.
stealing this analysis from reddit - for reference
So per KenPom, these are the B1G results:
#4 Illinois lost to #7 Loyola
#13 Wisconsin lost to #2 Baylor
#35 Rutgers lost to #5 Houston
#30 Maryland beat #21 Uconn
Top seeds Michigan, Illinois and Iowa beat cupcakes
#11 OSU lost to #129 Oral Roberts (LOL)
#13 Wisconsin beat #31 N Carolina
#19 Purdue lost to #72 N Texas
#35 Rutgers beat #43 Clemson
#59 MSU lost to #32 UCLA
So besides Ohio State (which I very much enjoyed) and Purdue losing, where are all these failures of Kenpom that you are seeing regarding the B1G? Obviously, it isn't correct 100% of the time, but 2 big upsets in 12 tourney games (in March fucking madness) doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me?
Kenpom correctly said that Loyola was a top 10 team, Loyola got heavily underseeded as an 8, and then Loyola does things that doesn't surprise anyone that looks at Kenpom...and we blame Kenpom for the B1G losing. Lol
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stealing this analysis from reddit - for reference
Yeah some people on here have an agenda....but you already knew that.
It doesn’t matter what you show them.
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One of the talking heads said yesterday morning this Loyola team is better than their FF one. No one should have taken them lightly.
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Iowa getting its shit pushed in.
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One of the talking heads said yesterday morning this Loyola team is better than their FF one. No one should have taken them lightly.
Krutwig took them to the final 4 as a sophmore... he's a senior now...
IF there was a tournament last year I'm sure they would have done some damage there as well
Not excusing the way we played but they aren't your average 8 seed either and made us look like shit
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Krutwig took them to the final 4 as a sophmore... he's a senior now...
IF there was a tournament last year I'm sure they would have done some damage there as well
Not excusing the way we played but they aren't your average 8 seed either and made us look like shit
That guy looks sort of doughy, but man can he play. That play where he got the feed then one touched it back to the guy who passed it to him coming down the lane was like if Messi switched sports.
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PAC-12 now 7-0.
Big Ten -- not so much.
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Yeah some people on here have an agenda....but you already knew that.
It doesn’t matter what you show them.
Iowa 6 just lost to Oregon 27 and it wasn't close.
Seeding bad, Kenpom okay, B1G terrible.
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PAC-12 now 7-0.
Big Ten -- not so much.
Bill Walton was right...
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Krutwig took them to the final 4 as a sophmore... he's a senior now...
IF there was a tournament last year I'm sure they would have done some damage there as well
Not excusing the way we played but they aren't your average 8 seed either and made us look like shit
Nobody took them lightly. Or staff is not THAT stupid. We had a week to look at film. That is what assistants are for. They should have been putting in 18 hour days for a week looking at both GT and Loyola film and I am sure they were.
We were still not prepared with any response to what we knew they did well. They are disciplined fundamentally sound team. They had a game plan. They executed it.
They had no surprise defense and offense in that game.
We did not handle the moment as players and staff. Players play with confidence if they know what to do to manage game situations they were prepared to face.
I will say this- Loyola is much better coached team than us. Our talent should have won out, but we froze up from the tipoff. Two immediate TOs with passes to nobody and we left Krutwwig completely wide open from 8 feet out and didn't bother to guard him.
We got worse from there. This is on staff IMO.
Hopefully they learned from it.
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At least Iowa is done. Fuck those farm boys
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At least Iowa is done. Fuck those farm boys
Bohannon had zero points. One flagrant foul. They got schooled.
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So the B1G is all hat and no cattle I see.
Dadgum right, Wimperoo.
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stealing this analysis from reddit - for reference
Well, that makes the fact that the alleged toughest conference top to bottom got its ass kicked in the 1st weekend of the tourney so much better. Now do the Pac 12!
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This tourney should send a message to the Big10, one would think. Nah.
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This tourney should send a message to the Big10, one would think. Nah.
Not enough fucking moxie!!!!
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"Following Saturday’s win, CU’s McKinley Wright IV and Jabari Walker relayed to the media how the team used the pre-tournament praise being heaped upon Patrick Ewing and the Hoyas as motivation, as Georgetown was a popular pick to pull the classic No. 12 seed-versus-five seed upset after rolling through the Big East tournament.
The Buffs instead ran Georgetown out of the gym. Yet on Sunday morning the ESPN College Game Day crew, while discussing the Pac-12’s surprising 5-0 start going into Sunday’s play (6-0, if you count Oregon advancing after Virginia Commonwealth was forced to withdraw due to coronavirus issues), the talking heads gushed about the Ducks, UCLA, and USC with nary a word about the Buffs.
CU went 5-2 this season against those teams and owns seven straight wins against USC. None of those three teams advanced to the Pac-12 title game,"
Article in local rag this morning. They're viewing themselves as disrespected with the media now being focused on Leonard Hamilton. IMHO, the wrong team is the dog here. That is, if the NET means anything.
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Suggs and Zags really upset that OK player ran down Suggs and hacked him when he tried to pad a 14 point lead on a breakaway with 50 seconds left.
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"Following Saturday’s win, CU’s McKinley Wright IV and Jabari Walker relayed to the media how the team used the pre-tournament praise being heaped upon Patrick Ewing and the Hoyas as motivation, as Georgetown was a popular pick to pull the classic No. 12 seed-versus-five seed upset after rolling through the Big East tournament.
The Buffs instead ran Georgetown out of the gym. Yet on Sunday morning the ESPN College Game Day crew, while discussing the Pac-12’s surprising 5-0 start going into Sunday’s play (6-0, if you count Oregon advancing after Virginia Commonwealth was forced to withdraw due to coronavirus issues), the talking heads gushed about the Ducks, UCLA, and USC with nary a word about the Buffs.
CU went 5-2 this season against those teams and owns seven straight wins against USC. None of those three teams advanced to the Pac-12 title game,"
Article in local rag this morning. They're viewing themselves as disrespected with the media now being focused on Leonard Hamilton. IMHO, the wrong team is the dog here. That is, if the NET means anything.
You have to approach every team this time of year with extreme prejudice.
An old MJ mind trick. He would make up shit.
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeAEU2v1/
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That guy looks sort of doughy, but man can he play. That play where he got the feed then one touched it back to the guy who passed it to him coming down the lane was like if Messi switched sports.
He looks like what happens when your strength comes from specific work and genetics rather than spending any time in a weight room.
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https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMeAEU2v1/
That is pretty good.
MD going to get hammered tonight unless they play game of their life.
UM only hope left. They need to adapt quick to no Livers by next weekend.
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He looks like what happens when your strength comes from specific work and genetics rather than spending any time in a weight room.
Skilled pretty smart efficient kid. Stays in his lane.
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I hope Michigan gets their ass beat. I can’t stand those motherfuckers!!
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You are quite the homer.
He had 24 points, made 4 threes, 5 steals, got to the line. Only 1 TO and was focus of D.
Ayo had his worst game of the year on offense and defense.
He was absolutely awful the last few mins of that game, which admittedly was the only part I watched.
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I hope Michigan loses by Juwan Howard calling a timeout with none left.
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I hope Michigan loses by Juwan Howard calling a timeout with none left.
;D
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This Maryland-Alabama game is fun.
Quit messin' around and put it in the hole! Can't score if you don't shoot.
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14-0 Bama run to go up 23 on the Terps.
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14-0 Bama run to go up 23 on the Terps.
Yeah, not so much fun anymore.
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Did you like my story tho?
Spent many years around AAU and youth ball at pretty high levels. Honestly, the kids that end up advancing as they get older are the ones who would take every shot they could growing up and not give a fck. Usually coaches kids. Coaches ignorantly love players who try and make plays even if they are stupid plays. They get called aggressive and leaders.
So good advice. Lol.
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That was a good one.
USC puttin a hurtin on Kansas. 40-21 at the half.
Horseshit PAC12.
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This Mobley kid at USC is really good. I can see why NBA scouts love him. Smooth as butter and can probably guard 1-5.
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Right. But this was just some stupid in house league. Lol
Well, then you just pissed off all parents. The parents are the worst. LOL
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These woke west coast teams are murdering everyone because they aren’t COVID long haulers like everyone else.
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These woke west coast teams are murdering everyone because they aren’t COVID long haulers like everyone else.
Interesting take. I gave you an applaud.
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What a fucked up year this is. The one B1G team is the one missing their 2nd best player and all of the main blue bloods are gone. 4 PAC teams but Colorado got their ass kicked.
Basically the teams that played balls out in the conference tourneys all got bounced except Oregon St.
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KU losing is understandable. With the NCAA problem, Self had to settle for 4 star talent. He might also be preoccupied what with that pending first ever hearing before an independent committee and a planned lawsuit.
85 - 51. 3rd seed lost to a 6 seed by 34 points. Wow!. USC lost to Utah. And UConn.
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Did you like my story tho?
Yeah, that's something I would have done as an uncle just to irritate people for my own enjoyment.
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(https://i.redd.it/2nlybp5dc1p61.gif)
Lol. Pretty funny shit there.
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This Mobley kid at USC is really good. I can see why NBA scouts love him. Smooth as butter and can probably guard 1-5.
Enfield must be a shitty coach.
USC looks like a team that should have been top 10 all year
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Enfield must be a shitty coach.
USC looks like a team that should have been top 10 all year
His wife is smoking hot. ( I think that is still allowed to be said here).
I was also surprised as to their talent level. The younger Mobley is very unique player.
The fact that he hired elder Mobley who was heavy into SoCal AAU for years means they will keep the pipeline going.
They could give Gonzaga some trouble although I see Baylor as only team left that could beat them unless somebody goes nuts from 3 for a whole game.
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Enfield must be a shitty coach.
USC looks like a team that should have been top 10 all year
He's not much for x's and o's but he can recruit. Ever see his wife?
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He's not much for x's and o's but he can recruit. Ever see his wife?
So Porter.Moser's game.plan would completely stymie him too?
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So Porter.Moser's game.plan would completely stymie him too?
Tad Boyle's did 3 times this season.
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He's not much for x's and o's but he can recruit. Ever see his wife?
I am sure she doesn't hurt on recruiting visits.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/03/article-0-19129FEE000005DC-295_634x1409.jpg)
He seems to have them going in right direction and the recruiting is set unless the AAU guys don't like elder Mobley in which case he is fucked. They make or break coaches out there.
My hunch is he knows what he is doing. Maybe most talent in the nation out there really.
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Tad Boyle's did 3 times this season.
They lost to mid major Colorado 3 times, eh?
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They lost to mid major Colorado 3 times, eh?
Just the facts man. If I remember correctly, a couple of those games weren't close..
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I am sure she doesn't hurt on recruiting visits.
(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/03/article-0-19129FEE000005DC-295_634x1409.jpg)
He seems to have them going in right direction and the recruiting is set unless the AAU guys don't like elder Mobley in which case he is fucked. They make or break coaches out there.
My hunch is he knows what he is doing. Maybe most talent in the nation out there really.
golds! golds! golds! golds! golds!
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Just the facts man. If I remember correctly, a couple of those games weren't close..
He is paid more than Porter Moser too.
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He is paid more than Porter Moser too.
I see Coach Hulka makes $4MM and has $10MM buyout.
Enfield makes $3.1MM.
Moser $1.1MM
https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/ (https://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/mens-basketball/coach/)
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Moser could have jumped to any number of P5 jobs after their FF run but stayed at L-C so it’s not like he’s some schlub no one has heard of. And yes he absolutely punked Underwood.
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Moser could have jumped to any number of P5 jobs after their FF run but stayed at L-C so it’s not like he’s some schlub no one has heard of. And yes he absolutely punked Underwood.
Have you heard the Porter Moser story?!
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Have you heard the Porter Moser story?!
???? Which story. Guy has had 25 jobs since he started coaching in 90s.
Certainly doing a good job now.
I would say he is going to be in another FF after this weekend.
He only has to beat a 12 seed, and then a Houston team that should have lost to Rutgers/or an 11 seed in Syracuse that is bound to cool off.
It is teed up for him.
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???? Which story. Guy has had 25 jobs since he started coaching in 90s.
Certainly doing a good job now.
I would say he is going to be in another FF after this weekend.
He only has to beat a 12 seed, and then a Houston team that should have lost to Rutgers/or an 11 seed in Syracuse that is bound to cool off.
It is teed up for him.
its a meme making fun of Rob and his "have you heard the Chris Beard story?"
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its a meme making fun of Rob and his "have you heard the Chris Beard story?"
Ahhhh. OK.
Chris Beard is crazy little fuck.
Can't argue wit an EE and then a Title game.
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Ahhhh. OK.
Chris Beard is crazy little fuck.
Can't argue wit an EE and then a Title game.
But have you heard his story?
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He might not go anywhere. He seems pretty happy at “home.” He believes in being rich without all the money he could make.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-cb-loyola-basketball-porter-moser-20210325-3vpjonmmy5c6fjznm3zrzgja6e-story.html
So. There’s the Porter Moser story.
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He might not go anywhere. He seems pretty happy at “home.” He believes in being rich without all the money he could make.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-cb-loyola-basketball-porter-moser-20210325-3vpjonmmy5c6fjznm3zrzgja6e-story.html
So. There’s the Porter Moser story.
He lives in an 8 BR $2.5MM mansion and makes $1.1MM a year. LOL.
I think the altruism aw shucks thing only goes so far.
No doubt he could make 3X to 4X that, but he is doing just fine.
All credit to him, though.
His work under Majerus is evident. Iconic coach. His teams were like watching him make opponent suffer in a dentist chair.
Moser should easily make his second FF this year and will forever be seen as Chicago legend and antithesis to downstate crooks and ne'er do wells at Illinois.
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He lives in an 8 BR $2.5MM mansion and makes $1.1MM a year. LOL.
I think the altruism aw shucks thing only goes so far.
No doubt he could make 3X to 4X that, but he is doing just fine.
All credit to him, though.
His work under Majerus is evident. Iconic coach. His teams were like watching him make opponent suffer in a dentist chair.
Moser should easily make his second FF this year and will forever be seen as Chicago legend and antithesis to downstate crooks and ne'er do wells at Illinois.
Yup and extremely happy. More money and stress isn’t what he’s looking for it appears. I’d be very content if I was him.
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Yup and extremely happy. More money and stress isn’t what he’s looking for it appears. I’d be very content if I was him.
Good for him. Has nice team and kids that totally buy in and he obviously can go a long way with Top 100-300 kids. You move up to P5 and it is another rat infested world and pressure.
I grew up dirt poor. I do Ok now and am lucky I do not have to worry like my parents did.
I often wonder how much money people really need.
Life is short.
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If you've got a good gig, feel settled in your neighborhood and your kids' educational sitch, and all the money you could possibly spend - what good is another $10 M so you can be burned in effigy by a horde of entitled rednecks?
Yes, it's comparable to the Chris Beard situation.
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If you've got a good gig, feel settled in your neighborhood and your kids' educational sitch, and all the money you could possibly spend - what good is another $10 M so you can be burned in effigy by a horde of entitled rednecks?
Yes, it's comparable to the Chris Beard situation.
Hence why my “brain dead” self drew the parallel. See I can be smart when I want to. You’re not the only one with stories.
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It's possibly the reason I agreed with you?
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It's possibly the reason I agreed with you?
You just made my day! 😁
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Fucking agrees with me all the time. It’s nbd.
He’s becoming a softy.
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Damn
https://www.12news.com/article/news/local/valley/grand-canyon-university-basketball-player-dies-in-california-car-crash-friends-say/75-e47ea89b-d57b-4a2c-9ef5-fb952f96b422
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If DePaul or Marquette triple his salary I’d definitely take those jobs. His life changes not at all if he takes the DePaul job. Except for that he’d likely be much wealthier. I’ve heard they may be ready to spend some money.
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His life changes not at all if he takes the DePaul job.
I wish you had the imagination to understand why this is a ridiculous statement.
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From the outside looking in, DePaul is *almost* incomprehensibly horrible for a major conference program in a basketball crazed major city.
One of the core of my five lifelong friends (a former papist who sent me the graphic text about Sister Jean that I posted in the Rambling game thread) was our class valedictorian and recipient of a full ride academic scholarship at DePaul. This was 1999, when they were actually relevant.
Two of the others went to ISU, I went to UI, and the fifth went to the Army. And, eventually, Iraq. Twice. We always tried to get together at one of the campuses for New Years and also around each other’s birthdays or other campus-specific events. Crazy shit always occurred.
I always had fun partying around DePaul. In fact, probably one of the wildest nights of my life happened there on NYE in 2000. There was a lot of snow on the ground and it was icy to boot. We started the night playing euchre and doing beer bongs then left for a party several blocks away at some house. I paid absolutely zero attention while we were walking there because I figured I’d be walking back with my buddies.
We got there and put our beer in the snow outside the back steps and went in. Place was packed. At some point I went back out to get a round of beers, hit the ice, and busted my ass all the way down the steps. Luckily I had enough booze and adrenaline pumping through my veins I didn’t realize I’d be sore af for at least a couple weeks after.
Eventually the countdown came and I happened to be standing by a pretty, buxom redhead. When the ball dropped and everyone was celebrating, she pulled me over and kissed me. We went upstairs into a sitting room and closed the door.
I was sitting on the end of the couch with my pants around my ankles while she was sucking me off. I was close to busting when all of a sudden the door flies open and two dudes walked in and saw us. One of them said, “What the fuck, Katie?!” and then they turned around and walked out. We then locked said door.
After we finished our business we went back downstairs. The house was almost empty and I realized my buddies had left. I can’t remember if I had a cell phone or not, but if I did I wasn’t able to get ahold of them. So I grabbed what was left of the beer and started walking the way I thought we’d came.
After walking at least 15 minutes I realized I was going the wrong way. I was able to hail a cab, but I had no idea what address or even the street to tell him. All I knew was that he lived close to the Demon Dawgs by the El, and luckily that was enough to get me there.
I don’t remember anything after getting out of the cab. The next morning I woke up on a couch in a strange apartment. No one else was there, and it was dark. I let myself out and started trying to find my way back to Tim’s place. Nothing looked familiar. Eventually I found the exit hallway, stepped out on a terrace, and recognized the courtyard where the entrance to Tim’s apartment was.
I made it to his apartment and knocked. I heard someone come to the door and pause I assume to look through the peephole. Then I heard everyone inside start laughing hysterically. I walked in and they were playing cards. They had left me because they couldn’t find me (because I was upstairs getting my cock sucked) and thought I’d gone back to Tim’s.
Tim then went over to the answering machine and played multiple hilarious messages that had been left overnight by the neighbors whose place I had crashed.
The first one was basically this drunk dude saying “hey Timmy your clown ass buddy is over here drunk af. He showed up frozen and dirty (I assume from the fall down the steps) so he’s crashing on our couch if you don’t come and get him.”
The second one was something along the lines of, “If he fucking pukes on our shit you’re better be over cleaning it up bright and early”
The third one was simply, “Hey man what’s up with you and Katie?”
After hearing that I just stood there with my mouth open (a la Bruth) thinking I got caught unknowingly fucking my buddy’s fuck buddy. Which is exactly what had happened.
So it turns out that this poor man’s Christina Hendricks was attracted to both the poor woman’s Justin Timberlake (Tim) and the very poor woman’s Nick Lachey (me). Luckily he was cool with it. Or at least acted like it.
But the point I’m trying to make is that DePaul is a good place to fall down icy stairs, get your cock sucked by horny coeds, and pass out in a stranger’s apartment. But it’s not a great place for college basketball.
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That's what I've always said.
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I really thought you were going to say you were really drunk, blah blah blah, and the supposed hot chick turned out to be a guy.
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No way DePaul is an upgrade from Loyola for a guy who's successful at the latter while the former is a dumpster.
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You've just reminded me that the entire block of Springfield from Sixth to Fifth was single family houses.
There was a guy named Steve who had a party house on the northwest corner.
They've all been knocked down to make way for ugly apartments.
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From the outside looking in, DePaul is *almost* incomprehensibly horrible for a major conference program in a basketball crazed major city.
One of the core of my five lifelong friends (a former papist who sent me the graphic text about Sister Jean that I posted in the Rambling game thread) was our class valedictorian and recipient of a full ride academic scholarship at DePaul. This was 1999, when they were actually relevant.
Two of the others went to ISU, I went to UI, and the fifth went to the Army. And, eventually, Iraq. Twice. We always tried to get together at one of the campuses for New Years and also around each other’s birthdays or other campus-specific events. Crazy shit always occurred.
I always had fun partying around DePaul. In fact, probably one of the wildest nights of my life happened there on NYE in 2000. There was a lot of snow on the ground and it was icy to boot. We started the night playing euchre and doing beer bongs then left for a party several blocks away at some house. I paid absolutely zero attention while we were walking there because I figured I’d be walking back with my buddies.
We got there and put our beer in the snow outside the back steps and went in. Place was packed. At some point I went back out to get a round of beers, hit the ice, and busted my ass all the way down the steps. Luckily I had enough booze and adrenaline pumping through my veins I didn’t realize I’d be sore af for at least a couple weeks after.
Eventually the countdown came and I happened to be standing by a pretty, buxom redhead. When the ball dropped and everyone was celebrating, she pulled me over and kissed me. We went upstairs into a sitting room and closed the door.
I was sitting on the end of the couch with my pants around my ankles while she was sucking me off. I was close to busting when all of a sudden the door flies open and two dudes walked in and saw us. One of them said, “What the fuck, Katie?!” and then they turned around and walked out. We then locked said door.
After we finished our business we went back downstairs. The house was almost empty and I realized my buddies had left. I can’t remember if I had a cell phone or not, but if I did I wasn’t able to get ahold of them. So I grabbed what was left of the beer and started walking the way I thought we’d came.
After walking at least 15 minutes I realized I was going the wrong way. I was able to hail a cab, but I had no idea what address or even the street to tell him. All I knew was that he lived close to the Demon Dawgs by the El, and luckily that was enough to get me there.
I don’t remember anything after getting out of the cab. The next morning I woke up on a couch in a strange apartment. No one else was there, and it was dark. I let myself out and started trying to find my way back to Tim’s place. Nothing looked familiar. Eventually I found the exit hallway, stepped out on a terrace, and recognized the courtyard where the entrance to Tim’s apartment was.
I made it to his apartment and knocked. I heard someone come to the door and pause I assume to look through the peephole. Then I heard everyone inside start laughing hysterically. I walked in and they were playing cards. They had left me because they couldn’t find me (because I was upstairs getting my cock sucked) and thought I’d gone back to Tim’s.
Tim then went over to the answering machine and played multiple hilarious messages that had been left overnight by the neighbors whose place I had crashed.
The first one was basically this drunk dude saying “hey Timmy your clown ass buddy is over here drunk af. He showed up frozen and dirty (I assume from the fall down the steps) so he’s crashing on our couch if you don’t come and get him.”
The second one was something along the lines of, “If he fucking pukes on our shit you’re better be over cleaning it up bright and early”
The third one was simply, “Hey man what’s up with you and Katie?”
After hearing that I just stood there with my mouth open (a la Bruth) thinking I got caught unknowingly fucking my buddy’s fuck buddy. Which is exactly what had happened.
So it turns out that this poor man’s Christina Hendricks was attracted to both the poor woman’s Justin Timberlake (Tim) and the very poor woman’s Nick Lachey (me). Luckily he was cool with it. Or at least acted like it.
But the point I’m trying to make is that DePaul is a good place to fall down icy stairs, get your cock sucked by horny coeds, and pass out in a stranger’s apartment. But it’s not a great place for college basketball.
20 years ago like it was yesterday. 😁
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Thats hilarious, I was drunk as hell and I got caught banging my girlfriend at the time on a pile of coats on a bed at some lame ass house (maybe a frat?) party at depaul for NYE 1999
whoops, awkward
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The next year we did New Years at DePaul again. Several of us, including my new-ish girlfriend, met up and got on the train at University Park rather than driving in. Tim had moved to a three flat that backed up to the El and we stayed there most of the night. I don’t remember much of that night other than Eric was home from the army and was there that year.
I vividly remember the next morning though. I chugged a red Gatorade before leaving Tim’s and then went to get on the train. There was a rough section of track somewhere on the way back and I started feeling sick. To my knowledge there were no restroom facilities so I motioned for her to grab our overnight bag. I still remember the look of horror on her face as she realized what was happening.
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How quickly did newish girlfriend bail?
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How quickly did newish girlfriend bail?
~5 years surprisingly. After grad school she got a big time job offer that required relocation. I had no interest in moving. And that was the end of that.
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Oh wow it's not every day you get to keep hitting it after that
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Have you heard the Porter Moser story?!
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Oh wow it's not every day you get to keep hitting it after that
I’m an incredible lover.
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I’m an incredible lover.
Makes sense. I certainly don't find you credible.
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Aw man
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Hey, hey. Take it easy now. I was just poking fun. No need to have a tantrum.
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Wow the ramblers and beavers setting basketball ball 100 years
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Wow the ramblers and beavers setting basketball ball 100 years
OSU switched to basic 2-3 zone early. Pretty much shutdown Loyola.
Amazing.
Yeah, this one will be in the low 50s.
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Beavers are playing good d but Loyola missed alot of wide open shots
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So much for the Loyola is that good theory even though they still might win 🤣🤣🤣...
16 points right before half. If the beavers can D them up, no reason Underwood shouldn’t have been able to as well...
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Real men don't play a zone.
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Loyola is trash. How did illinois lose to those chumps?
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Every coach in America would have switched to a zone, especially with an immobile Kofi.
Simple adjustment.
Not Coach Hulka.
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Other teams use a lot more head and ball fakes than Illini
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Hire Wayne Tinkle!
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Real men don't play a zone.
Loyola is NOT a 3 point shooting team.
Make them do something they don't do that well.
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I wish you had the imagination to understand why this is a ridiculous statement.
His home life. Of course his work environment changes.
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Loyola 4-23. 1-9 from 3.
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Use a zone or a man switch. And u dominate Loyola. Underwhelm is a retard. Kind of reminds me of Lovie. Its what we do and no adjustments are necessary. If we lose...well we lose. So retarded.
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Loyola 4-23. 1-9 from 3.
We got our asses kicked by that team. Smh
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Sean Davis. Loyola has played zone offense on 5% of their possessions.
All year.
Beaver coach said during the week, they would work on and play zone.
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Loyola 4-23. 1-9 from 3.
Seth Davis just said Loyola only faced zone 5% of time all year.
This info is out there for all to see.
Coach Hulka is a simple stubborn guy.
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Krutwig, 3-5. Everybody else 1-18.
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No way DePaul is an upgrade from Loyola for a guy who's successful at the latter while the former is a dumpster.
It’s an upgrade if they can pay him 2-3 times more, which I’ve heard DePaul might be willing to do.
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Gee Brad, maybe you should have ran this game plan against Loyola last week?
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Easy to beat a 2/3.
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It’s an upgrade if they can pay him 2-3 times more, which I’ve heard DePaul might be willing to do.
Not if he likes where he’s at. Just because you personally think it would be doesn’t mean he will/does.
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ya dance with the one that brung ya
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Easy to beat a 2/3.
Always counters to everything, and I am sure they will get better looks second half, but it does take away things they are used to doing.
And am not sure they have the shooters, but we will see.
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Not if he likes where he’s at. Just because you personally think it would be doesn’t mean he will/does.
Or course...but if he’s looking to rake in some money, which more than not athletes and coaches are; he could potentially triple his salary without having to change his address. That’s a rarity in sports.
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Krutwig, 3-5. Everybody else 1-18.
Maybe have Krutwig shoot more; others shoot less?
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Or course...but if he’s looking to rake in some money, which more than not athletes and coaches are; he could potentially triple his salary without having to change his address. That’s a rarity in sports.
I think we just saw where that got your boy Shaka.
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So this is fucking embarrassing all over again.
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Man switch/zone takes away those double picks and back doors. Yet underwhelm is such a genius. What a fucking joke.
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So this is fucking embarrassing all over again.
Yes.
Any average high school coach would have at least tried to change it up.
OSU also using fewer ball screens and more isos to avoid the ball traps.
Again, simple adjustments.
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I think we just saw where that got your boy Shaka.
Tempo thinks money = happiness.
Must be ahead of the curve again. Why didn't anyone else think of this?
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Always counters to everything, and I am sure they will get better looks second half, but it does take away things they are used to doing.
And am not sure they have the shooters, but we will see.
Someone said Syracuse does better in the tournament because teams aren't used to seeing their match up zone. OTOH, conference teams know how to attack it. Of course you are right that 'they' have to make open shots. I think the keys are to not just settle for the first outside shot. Penetrate the seems. Or pass inside. Etc. If the defense helps; kick it out for open look.
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Wow. Loyola looks rattled.
Will see if they can recover here, but OSU has some length to give them trouble.
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Someone said Syracuse does better in the tournament because teams aren't used to seeing their match up zone. OTOH, conference teams know how to attack it. Of course you are right that 'they' have to make open shots. I think the keys are to not just settle for the first outside shot. Penetrate the seems. Or pass inside. Etc. If the defense helps; kick it out for open look.
Agree. Looks like Loyola trying to drive inside more. Might help get them back.
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Pretty sure I read the Beavers were picked to finish last in the Pac12.
I guess that's kinda like Nebraska being in this game, and up double digits. lol
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I like Underwood, but he really should be fucking embarrassed right now. We got dominated from start to finish by this same Loyola team.
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OSU really doesn't look that talented other than Thompson, but they have length which creates issues.
Loyola might pull it together but OSU is in their heads right now.
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OSU also using fewer ball screens and more isos to avoid the ball traps.
Again, simple adjustments.
Is that why they are shooting 39% and on track to score less than 60 points?
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Driving the ball is working. Will it be enough?
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Is that why they are shooting 39% and on track to score less than 60 points?
They have also missed a ton of open shots.
60 points will probably win the game.
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I feel much better about our loss.
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I feel much better about our loss.
🤣🤣🤣...
I guarantee that Tinkle took one look at the game film against us and made the simple adjustments and said that chit ain’t happening against us.
That’s how overrated Underwood really is...
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Loyola doing good job attacking zone now. OSU has one on one ability guys to keep getting iso shots.
Will be close finish.
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Loyola 2/17 from three.
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Can Loyola score six points in three minutes? I don't think so.
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Can Loyola score six points in three minutes? I don't think so.
Coin flip
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The OSU guy hits these and they get a stop out makes it tougher.
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Jesus they are just missing wide open shot after shot
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They have also missed a ton of open shots.
60 points will probably win the game.
50 might do it.
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This is painful basketball. I hope Houston whips whoever wins this shit.
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I don't root for a Kelvin Sampson team
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I don't root for a Kelvin Sampson team
This is the correct answer.
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Ethan Thompson looks a little like Etan Thomas, but with more letters.
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Loyola couldn’t shoot today. Couldn’t miss last Sunday.
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I just realized that I couldn't name the Cal coach off teh top of my head.
It's Mark Fox. Did I know that at some point?
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Pretty sure I read the Beavers were picked to finish last in the Pac12.
I guess that's kinda like Nebraska being in this game, and up double digits. lol
Oregon State beat Tennessee and Oklahoma State to get here. They have beaten USC, UCLA, and Oregon. Also Co. They also lost to Portland.
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Loyola couldn’t shoot today. Couldn’t miss last Sunday.
of course its hard to miss wide open layup after layup while getting beat backdoor and off the same damn play with those picks over and over again. Yet Underwhelm couldnt figure it out.
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Can Loyola score six points in three minutes? I don't think so.
How many?
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Underwhelm can go to texas. Dont even care at this point. Dude is not a good x and o coach.
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of course its hard to miss wide open layup after layup while getting beat backdoor and off the same damn play with those picks over and over again. Yet Underwhelm couldnt figure it out.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
We got an historic curb stomping in the coaching department.
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Underwhelm can go to texas. Dont even care at this point. Dude is not a good x and o coach.
If Kofi doesn't come back we could miss tourney.
He will then have the same number of NCAA wins as Groce in 5 years here.
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If Kofi doesn't come back we could miss tourney.
He will then have the same number of NCAA wins as Groce in 5 years here.
That is a not really a fair comparison for two reasons, but I bet you knew that. Uberwood does have more NCAA wins than Coach K and Cal the last 2 years.
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That is a not really a fair comparison for two reasons, but I bet you knew that. Uberwood does have more NCAA wins than Coach K and Cal the last 2 years.
How is it not a fair comparison?
If they played last year, no guarantee they win anything, or that Ayo and Kofi don't leave as ill advised as that would have been, and we miss tourney this year.
The reality is we have 1 NCAA win in 4 years and just blew our best and easiest path to a Final Four in 16 years due to staff complete lack of prep and adjustments.
You do what OSU did. Play a zone and forget PnR.
Grind it out.
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of course its hard to miss wide open layup after layup while getting beat backdoor and off the same damn play with those picks over and over again. Yet Underwhelm couldnt figure it out.
Underwood deserves credit for the season overall but that was a piss poor coaching job last week. To just stick with the same approach all game and hope it magically works is just extreme stubbornness.
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Agree we had epic one month stretch.
I wish he would have simply let Ayo go iso all day and go an ugly 8-20 and get to the line 5 or 6 time rather than having him get trapped,stripped all day and only get 10 shots.
He was an AA guard put in bad situations.
Thompson went one on one or used off ball quick hitter screens.
No PnR to get iced.
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Two godawful ugly games today. Low scoring, bad shooting, turnovers. Even though it’s been a defensive battle there were barely any fouls called so nova now is fouling a bunch just to get to the bonus, which has been just thrilling to watch.
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My 4 year old has Oregon State in the F4 🤣
(https://i.ibb.co/3yf8tvG/CCA2-BD5-A-7115-4-BC3-B630-2-E704978-C6-CA.jpg) (https://ibb.co/qM04bCX)
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Yay another godawful basketball game. With it being so warm I’ve been trying to go out fishing all afternoon but every time I step out of the house it starts raining again.
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of course its hard to miss wide open layup after layup while getting beat backdoor and off the same damn play with those picks over and over again. Yet Underwhelm couldnt figure it out.
I didn’t watch the OSU-Loyola game, but I’m going to make a guess: Oregon State zoned them on defense? A zone would have taken away everything they were doing to us and made them make plays on the perimeter, which I’m not convinced they could do.
People who watched the game, how far off am I?
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Oral Roberts looking good again. Damn.
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It seems like everybody on Ark has 7 ' 5" wingspan.
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Yay another barn burner here. 30-20 going into halftime.
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Yay another barn burner here. 30-20 going into halftime.
I think Houston likes it like that. They win ugly.
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I didn’t watch the OSU-Loyola game, but I’m going to make a guess: Oregon State zoned them on defense? A zone would have taken away everything they were doing to us and made them make plays on the perimeter, which I’m not convinced they could do.
People who watched the game, how far off am I?
They switched on and off. Loyola had wide open looks from three and couldn’t convert. They’ve been streaky all year. OSU’s length and bounce bothered Krutwig more than we could. OSU gave up a ton of open threes and their gamble paid off.
I would have liked to have seen us try some zone here and there but not really sure it would have made a big difference with Kofi in the lineup. This lineup is simply too traditional. We don’t have lengthy versatile athletic wings to disrupt passing lanes and close out shooters in a zone look. If we didn’t need Kofi so bad for offense I think there would have been more defensive options we could have used.
The key to beating the zone is being patient and getting the ball to the free throw line to a good passer. Problem with that is Krutwig is really good from there and that’s exactly how they run their offense.
A zone wouldn’t have really helped Kofi at all, who was already kind of playing his own matchup zone on Krut after the first few minutes. It might have helped with some of the cuts they made that Krut fed but would have also left them open at the arc.
My primary concern was lack of adjustment on offense. It was clear by the 10 min mark of second half Kofi was gassed and he’s out 23 feet from the basket setting half assed screens while Ayo was getting iced. Eventually they went to a more iso look and got some good looks but they didn’t fall.
Underwood was thoroughly outcoached and Loyola was a really bad matchup for us. Trent missed several shots he almost always makes. Several other guys missed point blank shots.
I have to remind myself that three of our best five players are underclassmen and one of them has only been playing basketball for five years. First tourney appearance for all the players. Living in a bubble environment for over a week before the tourney even got started. Just got done playing 2.5 months of B1G opponents who don’t have Loyola’s style of play, maturity and discipline. Not making excuses but it’s not hard to see how such a team would be ripe for upset.
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Syracuse looking an the ACC also-ran they are
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I didn’t watch the OSU-Loyola game, but I’m going to make a guess: Oregon State zoned them on defense? A zone would have taken away everything they were doing to us and made them make plays on the perimeter, which I’m not convinced they could do.
People who watched the game, how far off am I?
You are correct.
And they did not allow themselves to get ball trapped every possession like we did.
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As important as Kofi was, I'm surprised we didnt use a little zone during the year to protect him from foul trouble and let him take a breather just staying down low.
Even if it's just going to a zone for a couple of possessions to switch the defense up every now and then.
But then, maybe we tried it in practice and deep sixed the idea. Having some perimeter length can come in handy when playing a zone.
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We really had limited length and I would not call us anything that much above average athleticly either.
We could have really used a couple 6' 7" + guys who could make plays, get their own, and shoot a little bit.
We were small playing 4 guards and Kofi really and not that fast with the ball except for Ayo and Curbelo.
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They switched on and off. Loyola had wide open looks from three and couldn’t convert. They’ve been streaky all year. OSU’s length and bounce bothered Krutwig more than we could. OSU gave up a ton of open threes and their gamble paid off.
I would have liked to have seen us try some zone here and there but not really sure it would have made a big difference with Kofi in the lineup. This lineup is simply too traditional. We don’t have lengthy versatile athletic wings to disrupt passing lanes and close out shooters in a zone look. If we didn’t need Kofi so bad for offense I think there would have been more defensive options we could have used.
The key to beating the zone is being patient and getting the ball to the free throw line to a good passer. Problem with that is Krutwig is really good from there and that’s exactly how they run their offense.
A zone wouldn’t have really helped Kofi at all, who was already kind of playing his own matchup zone on Krut after the first few minutes. It might have helped with some of the cuts they made that Krut fed but would have also left them open at the arc.
My primary concern was lack of adjustment on offense. It was clear by the 10 min mark of second half Kofi was gassed and he’s out 23 feet from the basket setting half assed screens while Ayo was getting iced. Eventually they went to a more iso look and got some good looks but they didn’t fall.
Underwood was thoroughly outcoached and Loyola was a really bad matchup for us. Trent missed several shots he almost always makes. Several other guys missed point blank shots.
I have to remind myself that three of our best five players are underclassmen and one of them has only been playing basketball for five years. First tourney appearance for all the players. Living in a bubble environment for over a week before the tourney even got started. Just got done playing 2.5 months of B1G opponents who don’t have Loyola’s style of play, maturity and discipline. Not making excuses but it’s not hard to see how such a team would be ripe for upset.
A zone would have taken away Loyola’s layups. They maybe could have still scored, but not the same way. At least make them not shoot layups.
And Kofi didn’t need to be in there when we went zone. He was obviously gassed. Rest him, put in Giorgi and Hawkins.
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No question any zone would have helped.
They are not great 3 point team.
We not only played man all day, we played really really bad man. We certainly had been playing better defense in our nice run in last month.
Our guys froze up. Got really slow.
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I think we just saw where that got your boy Shaka.
Multi-generational wealth built in 6 years? Yeah, catastrophic result.
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Tempo thinks money = happiness.
Must be ahead of the curve again. Why didn't anyone else think of this?
No, if he’s truly as happy as he can be; by all means, stay at Loyola. The vast majority of coaches that are able to move up aren’t looking to stay at that level though. And there’s nothing wrong with making sure your next 3-4 generations live comfortably.
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They looked to have the same intensity on d that we've had on and off during the season. When we play with intensity, everybody looks 1/2 step quicker and the other team isn't getting open looks. Our offense seems to feed off the defense. When the defense isn't there, we seemed to let other teams control tempo.
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Unlike yesterday’s mess this game actually looks like basketball
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Gonzaga looks pretty fucking good.
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Gonzaga looks pretty fucking good.
They can score. Will be interested to see them play against a team that makes them work on both sides of the ball. Alabama or Baylor can get them.
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Michigan in for a battle.
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Damage has already been done to the B1G reputation so I hope Michigan loses by 30
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I have as much faith in this Michigan team as I have in any Gonzaga team.
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Fsu looks like trash. Terrible d and offense. Game looks over already.
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Fsu a lot like Indiana.
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They sure look like shit now.
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Barkley and Kenny Smith ....
Barkley. FSU just turns the ball over. They don't value the ball.
Smith. That's because of the defense. The defense causes the turnovers.
Barkley. No. They can play without turning it over. Sometimes they just turn it over.
Smith. No.
Barkley. They're unforced turnovers. They just turn it over.
That's us.
We're getting better. Much better than year 1.
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I laugh every time Brad Garrett says “Tony Bolognavich.”
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FSU runs no discernible offensive scheme.
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UCLA was not seeded properly. Got damn!
Meh, the truth is college basketball is just a lot more even today than it used to be. The 60th best team can beat the 6th best team on any given night.
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UCLA was not seeded properly. Got damn!
Izzo got buttfucked on that one. MSU should have played Illinois in the play in game.
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I would like this Alabama team if they weren’t Alabama. Go UCLA!
That shorts call was super close but appeared to be the right call.
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UCLA should have thrown the ball in the air toward half-court, by the time it comes down there’s no time to get off a real shot.
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Wow, can’t let the guy get that shot. UCLA will lose now. That game was won.
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How do you let a guy get a clean look there?
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UCLA let's Bama shoot a long 3 at the buzzer to go to overtime. Nothing but net.
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FOUL THEM
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Cronin's name gets crossed off the Texas job.
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Are ucla idiots? Why not foul? Game wouldve been over.
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No chance ucla wins here. I expect a beatdown here in o.t.
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Cronin wants to stay in LA. Its obvious.
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I think players should get an extra foul in OT.
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That's big for UCLA. Up 3.
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How do you let a guy get a clean look there?
Wide open floor?
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No chance ucla wins here. I expect a beatdown here in o.t.
I did too, but impressive resiliency by UCLA. So often the “better team” pulls it out when given a 2nd chance.
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Suck it, Bama!
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Fouling down 11 with 9 seconds.
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Yeah got a little carried away on the fouling there. Nate Oats lost to an 11 seed guess he’s off Texas’ list now.
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Nice rebound from UCLA after that last second shot. Thought they were s.o.l. Too bad Bama. U guys have football. Must be nice.
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Yeah got a little carried away on the fouling there. Nate Oats lost to an 11 seed guess he’s off Texas’ list now.
UCLA isn’t your typical midmajor 11 seed.
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Damn, George Mason was 15 years ago, already.
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UCLA isn’t your typical midmajor 11 seed.
3 of the 4 11 seeds (MSU, SYR, UCLA) were major conference teams that were among the last at large teams to be selected because they didn’t have very good seasons. MSU won some huge games late to get on the right side of the bubble. UCLA lost four in a row at the end of the season, which put them on the bubble. Something like ~2% of people had them making it this far and those were probably computer or child generated brackets. 🤣
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3 of the 4 11 seeds (MSU, SYR, UCLA) were major conference teams that were among the last at large teams to be selected because they didn’t have very good seasons. MSU won some huge games late to get on the right side of the bubble. UCLA lost four in a row at the end of the season, which put them on the bubble. Something like ~2% of people had them making it this far and those were probably computer or child generated brackets. 🤣
The winner this year is some West Coast basketball fanatic with 3 Pac 12 teams and Gonzaga.
I don't even want to look but this has to be by far my worst bracket ever
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Dana Altman sucks again
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3 of the 4 11 seeds (MSU, SYR, UCLA) were major conference teams that were among the last at large teams to be selected because they didn’t have very good seasons. MSU won some huge games late to get on the right side of the bubble. UCLA lost four in a row at the end of the season, which put them on the bubble. Something like ~2% of people had them making it this far and those were probably computer or child generated brackets.
They were a preseason top 25 team, have a top notch coach, and have “ UCLA” on their jerseys. I don’t think anyone has been taking them lightly.
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Dana Altman sucks again
His career kinda says otherwise.
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They were a preseason top 25 team, have a top notch coach, and have “ UCLA” on their jerseys. I don’t think anyone has been taking them lightly.
Just like MSU. Their body of work was unimpressive.
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Just like MSU. Their body of work was unimpressive.
And yet I can guarantee you, almost no one would have been totally shocked if they were still playing.
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The winner this year is some West Coast basketball fanatic with 3 Pac 12 teams and Gonzaga.
I don't even want to look but this has to be by far my worst bracket ever
Glad I didn’t bother filling one out. It wouldn’t have been pretty.
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And yet I can guarantee you, almost no one would have been totally shocked if they were still playing.
Outside of a handful of teams I don’t think anyone would be totally shocked by almost anything that happens in March Madness. Be honest. Did you know the name of a single player on UCLA before this tourney? Or this game?
This all got started because I made a joke about Nate Oats and now you’ve turned into a Nate Oats apologist and are slobbering all over one of the last teams to get selected for the tournament because they beat Oats.
Haven’t seen you singing the praises of Loyola, who by virtually ever metric available was a better team than UCLA.
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Anybody who didn't know Campbell and Etienne wasn't just not paying attention to college basketball in general, but wasn't paying attention to Illini basketball in particular.
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Anybody who didn't know Campbell and Etienne wasn't just not paying attention to college basketball in general, but wasn't paying attention to Illini basketball in particular.
Did Etienne play? Campbell I remember from the recruitment. I didn’t know he went to UCLA until the tourney.
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Outside of a handful of teams I don’t think anyone would be totally shocked by almost anything that happens in March Madness. Be honest. Did you know the name of a single player on UCLA before this tourney? Or this game?
This all got started because I made a joke about Nate Oats and now you’ve turned into a Nate Oats apologist and are slobbering all over one of the last teams to get selected for the tournament because they beat Oats.
Haven’t seen you singing the praises of Loyola, who by virtually ever metric available was a better team than UCLA.
No, I didn’t. Because with everything else going on in the world and with my life I watched less CBB than I ever have. I didn’t even watch every Illini game this year. I do know that UCLA was ranked in the preseason, has a good coach, and a history of doing well in the tourney.
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There were some twists and turns. As you know, recruiting is fluid.
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Barkley just absolutely dong whipped the NCAA. I thought Kenny was gonna come across the table and rip his mic off. Wow
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As a credentialed "insider" I have to agree with my good friend Sir Charles. But I'd still like to know what he said.
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Barkley just absolutely dong whipped the NCAA. I thought Kenny was gonna come across the table and rip his mic off. Wow
Any specifics?
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Thought for sure it would be on YouTube but haven’t been able to find it
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Thought for sure it would be on YouTube but haven’t been able to find it
No recollection?
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Watching more college basketball than 99% of the world has proven to be.....absolutely fucking worthless this last week plus. I suspect this will be the new norm for the tournament
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Watching more college basketball than 99% of the world has proven to be.....absolutely fucking worthless this last week plus. I suspect this will be the new norm for the tournament
What, upsets?
The difference between #8 and #80 nowadays is smaller than it’s ever been.
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Have to imagine it’s upsets and gambling
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Finally Michigan can avenge Brian Ellerbee and the pack of cheaters (Louis Bullock and Tractor Traylor) who set our program back a decade!
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Watching more college basketball than 99% of the world has proven to be.....absolutely fucking worthless this last week plus. I suspect this will be the new norm for the tournament
COVID really screwed with the mojo this year.
Then again, we will probably end up with three #1 seeds in the final four anyway. Which really makes me even more depressed.
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Sorry if linked elsewhere.
https://dailyillini.com/sports/2021/03/28/big-ten-has-big-problems-why-league-struggles-in-march-how-teams-can-get-over-hump/?fbclid=IwAR0VKvt3M1yOp1MDnZZxEduDMpTRTAVG6g9kVY4IxWSzciyjkctwId6yP50
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Sorry if linked elsewhere.
https://dailyillini.com/sports/2021/03/28/big-ten-has-big-problems-why-league-struggles-in-march-how-teams-can-get-over-hump/?fbclid=IwAR0VKvt3M1yOp1MDnZZxEduDMpTRTAVG6g9kVY4IxWSzciyjkctwId6yP50
Makes sense. These other teams have more multi position longer more athletic players.
Oregon State took apart Loyola simply because they had two guys who could get their own shot off against anyone at end of shot clock with no ball screens. We had a guy that can do that sometimes but fcked him over with allowing doubles.
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Sorry if linked elsewhere.
https://dailyillini.com/sports/2021/03/28/big-ten-has-big-problems-why-league-struggles-in-march-how-teams-can-get-over-hump/?fbclid=IwAR0VKvt3M1yOp1MDnZZxEduDMpTRTAVG6g9kVY4IxWSzciyjkctwId6yP50
Keep your racist shit off my board!
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Any specifics?
https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/03/march-madness-charles-barkley-ncaa-rant-video?fbclid=IwAR29wgAefWUuIr7G7XmCIg_dkqD_6HkLPgk6eps3wZYSQKNAUqnxQ_T3k90
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Keep your racist shit off my board!
See how that works? Once you're labelled..... Doesn't matter what idiot makes the claim, you're branded! ;D
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https://ftw.usatoday.com/2021/03/march-madness-charles-barkley-ncaa-rant-video?fbclid=IwAR29wgAefWUuIr7G7XmCIg_dkqD_6HkLPgk6eps3wZYSQKNAUqnxQ_T3k90
lol yeah he's pretty spot on as usual
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Makes sense. These other teams have more multi position longer more athletic players.
Oregon State took apart Loyola simply because they had two guys who could get their own shot off against anyone at end of shot clock with no ball screens. We had a guy that can do that sometimes but fcked him over with allowing doubles.
Custard has noted this multiple times. When he is not fluffing Underachiever!
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Sorry if linked elsewhere.
https://dailyillini.com/sports/2021/03/28/big-ten-has-big-problems-why-league-struggles-in-march-how-teams-can-get-over-hump/?fbclid=IwAR0VKvt3M1yOp1MDnZZxEduDMpTRTAVG6g9kVY4IxWSzciyjkctwId6yP50
LOL. Barkley is entertaining.
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Oregon St has a whopping 17 points at halftime.
Jesus Christ.
Tinkle apparently could be on Texas' list then.
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Wayne Tinkling down his leg
And yet again the upsets are fun until you have terrible games in the round of eight.
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Oregon St has a whopping 17 points at halftime.
Jesus Christ.
And not a single "Beavers" post out of you. Sad!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDqsgbtpDLk&ab_channel=randomeguytokien
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Tinkle making ADJUSTMENTS
I hope Brad is paying attention
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Team Tinkle 2nd half turnovers.
None.
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Houston getting some help from the zebras, they don’t want to see Oregon State play another game either
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I kinda hope Kelvin Sampson wins it all.
I mean, why the fuck not? If college basketball is gonna be a shithole, give it what it deserves.
I'd be ok with this, but then the Barney Fife's would slobber over themselves anyway.
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Our regional turned out to be pretty pathetic.
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Our regional turned out to be pretty pathetic.
Yeah we had the easiest path too.
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Our regional turned out to be pretty pathetic.
Three top 15 teams in the top half of bracket and a goddamn auto bid team gets to the regional final.
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Clark Kellogg just called Kelvin Sampson a great coach and molder of young men.
I kinda don’t think that was necessary.
Which is what they will say about Pitino the minute he takes Texas to a Final Four. You guys never learn.
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Learn what? That college basketball is a shithole?
I know. You’re not teaching me a god damn thing.
Yeah but Pitino and Miller are tainted. Who would want them?
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Who are you trying to argue with? I never said nobody would want them.
Custard seems to think they’re damaged goods. And everyone I’ve seen this side of PAMan seems to agree with him.
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These are really great E8 games. Yawn...
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Ok? So, maybe discuss it with Custard then. I never said shit about either of those guys. And I don’t give a fuck about who Texas hires because I’m not a Texas fan. In fact, I can’t remember the last time I thought about Texas, outside of them losing to Abilene Christian.
Maybe less alcohol, more weed. Might calm you down a little.
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Did Tempo just offer advice on anger management? I'd swear Tempo just offered advice on anger management.
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Yeah but Pitino and Miller are tainted. Who would want them?
Guess we’ll find out
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Did Tempo just offer advice on anger management? I'd swear Tempo just offered advice on anger management.
I know you’ve tried VERY HARD for a very long time to create the impression that I’m an angry drunk, but no ones buying into that meme anymore. Time to reinvent your schtick.
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Guess we’ll find out
I think we already have. Arizona, a program that could have almost any coach they want decided to stick with Miller. Pitino will likely be back at a high major soon.
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no ones buying into that meme anymore.
I mean, we know you're angry.
We can't be sure that you're drunk when you unleash a series of angry, unanswered posts. But I feel like anyone with a history of untethered late night rants would want to be drunk. Otherwise, you'd seem ... you know, like, crazy or something.
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I mean, we know you're angry.
We can't be sure that you're drunk when you unleash a series of angry, unanswered posts. But I feel like anyone with a history of untethered late night rants would want to be drunk. Otherwise, you'd seem ... you know, like, crazy or something.
Couldn’t be that I posted at that hour because I worked evenings and would get home at 2am could it?
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I think we already have. Arizona, a program that could have almost any coach they want decided to stick with Miller. Pitino will likely be back at a high major soon.
Do you have any idea what’s been going on at Arizona for three years now? Until there is some resolution they are stuck with Miller and Miller is stuck with them.
Riddle me this: why are Pitino and Miller great college basketball coaches?
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Do you have any idea what’s been going on at Arizona for three years now? Until there is some resolution they are stuck with Miller and Miller is stuck with them.
Riddle me this: why are Pitino and Miller great college basketball coaches?
Recruiting mostly, but that’s the key for any coach. Pitino has been a great program builder since his early days. Pitino can coach. Why, are you saying CBB has been cleaned up? A guy like Pitino is a made man, like Calipari. Probably doesn’t need to cheat to the level he used to. I mean, I know Underwood is great, and does things “the right way,” but is this really necessary?
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Huh? Who told you that?
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I’m totally calm. Only had one beer this evening with dinner.
Regrettably, I can’t smoke weed. I would love to, but random drug testing at work kinda doesn’t allow it.
You could get the wizzinator.
https://www.thewhizzinator.com/
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They’ve done a great job of getting great players by skirting the NCAA rules and got caught doing it. Pitino lost his job for it. Arizona is basically in neutral right now until things get sorted.
You seem to be under the assumption that these guys can just relocate and replicate previous success as if nothing happened. There are a few examples that support your thought process but not sure any of them were as egregious in their violations.
I’m also pretty sure Underwood has played pretty deep in the gray area but may have had his leash shortened.
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Now this is a great page of posts.
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They’ve done a great job of getting great players by skirting the NCAA rules and got caught doing it. Pitino lost his job for it. Arizona is basically in neutral right now until things get sorted.
You seem to be under the assumption that these guys can just relocate and replicate previous success as if nothing happened. There are a few examples that support your thought process but not sure any of them were as egregious in their violations.
I’m also pretty sure Underwood has played pretty deep in the gray area but may have had his leash shortened.
I actually hate pouring gasolione on this, but Kelvin Sampson says "Hello!"
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I actually hate pouring gasolione on this, but Kelvin Sampson says "Hello!"
Wasn’t Bruce Pearl in a Final Four recently?
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I actually hate pouring gasolione on this, but Kelvin Sampson says "Hello!"
I’m glad you pointed that out. Sampson got a 5 year show-cause for impermissible phone calls. Miller got taped discussing 100k payment for DeAndre Ayton.
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Baylor is going to choke this game away.
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Wasn’t Bruce Pearl in a Final Four recently?
Yeah that was taken into account in my post
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Baylor is going to choke this game away.
My guess is they lock down on defense and win going away
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Wasn’t Bruce Pearl in a Final Four recently?
He said "Hello" in 2019. Kelvin said it tonight.
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My guess is they lock down on defense and win going away
They have the talent to do it. Drew has been pretty good overall over his career, but not known as a finisher. He probably needs this win more than anyone.
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I’m glad you pointed that out. Sampson got a 5 year show-cause for impermissible phone calls. Miller got taped discussing 100k payment for DeAndre Ayton.
And yet here he is, after doing penance in the NBA, right?
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Went into this game with no preference, but find myself rooting for Arkansas.
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I hope the Baylor guys don't kill one of their teammates tonight.
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Neither team looking that good down the stretch. Baylor playing some major stall ball. That last 3 was huge.
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That Coke commercial sucks.
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I hope the Baylor guys don't kill one of their teammates tonight.
This is really all we ever hope for.
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And yet here he is, after doing penance in the NBA, right?
C’mon guys TEXAS isn’t going to wait 6 years to get their guy! This is TEXAS we are talking about! All they want to do is win!
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Arkansas a little less moxieful than I thought they were.
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If Illinois had any one of Mayer, Vital, or Everyday John they’d still be playing basketball.
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C’mon guys TEXAS isn’t going to wait 6 years to get their guy! This is TEXAS we are talking about! All they want to do is win!
This one probably sounded good in your head.
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It’s so weird seeing a guy named Jalen Tate making shots
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Vital should post in the Trim thread after that.
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What a block. If that layup goes in Arkansas still has a shot.
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Great no look pass, but their first FG in 8 minutes lol
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Uh, where is the foul?
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It’s so weird seeing a guy named Jalen Tate making shots
Would be even weirder if his name was Jaylon.
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Would be even weirder if his name was Jaylon.
I used a hybrid spelling on purpose
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This one probably sounded good in your head.
I guarantee it sounded better in mine than when it set off the cognitive dissonance in yours
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I guarantee it sounded better in mine than when it set of the cognitive dissonance in yours
So what was your point?
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My guess is they lock down on defense and win going away
AOTMFC
Great no look pass, but their first FG in 8 minutes lol
Hey look at us bonding
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So what was your point?
To trigger cognitive dissonance
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To trigger cognitive dissonance
But why would Texas have to wait 6 years? Your post wasn’t logical.
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But why would Texas have to wait 6 years? Your post wasn’t logical.
:o
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Just so we’re clear. The question is “why would Texas need to wait 6 years (to hire their guy)?”
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Sorry; but that sounds like something Rob would say.
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It's been a while since I had Jordan Almonds.
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It's been a while since I had Jordan Almonds.
This is probably your best, most engaging post in years.
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I feel like most people probably didn't really appreciate Jordan Almonds when they were kids.
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I feel like most people probably didn't really appreciate Jordan Almonds when they were kids.
Not my favorite, but I wouldn’t begrudge their role in the grand scheme of things.
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I’d rather just have almonds.
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Not my favorite, but I wouldn’t begrudge their role in the grand scheme of things.
Exactly. It's a key element of their œuvre: Jordan Almonds know their role. They don't seem to outglamour fellow treats, even in their most common (pastel) iteration.
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Does USC cover -9 against Gonzaga, yes or no?
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Does USC cover -9 against Gonzaga, yes or no?
I would say yes, so as I am the worst sports gambler ever, do the opposite
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I would say yes, so as I am the worst sports gambler ever, do the opposite
Go down to the Silver Legacy and put fifty on Gonzaga for me then.
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Go down to the Silver Legacy and put fifty on Gonzaga for me then.
Are you requiring him to wear a mask or not if he should choose to do this for you?
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Go down to the Silver Legacy and put fifty on Gonzaga for me then.
If I have time...
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I think this is possible upset, but I never bet.
Watching USC in tournament closer has been interesting.
They apparently have a new starting lineup from last year.
They have a buttload of talent.
They have a 7 foot post with ridiculous ball skills and BB IQ.
They are good. Would have easily hung with Top 3 in BT.
For some reason they lost to Colorado 3X.
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Looks like the bracket challenge is coming down to a nail biter between me and poosieatr1 with Sven still in the hunt if the Zags win
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Does USC cover -9 against Gonzaga, yes or no?
Gonzaga has covered every game in the tournament
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So they’re due
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Gonzaga is turning over USC like they’re 8th graders.
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Yeah.
Zebra down. He is OK.
USC has totally fallen apart. They look like us versus Loyola. Just throwing it away mostly unforced.
They look like deer in headlights.
This game is probably over after 5 minutes.
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Gonzaga is so fucking good.
They are very very good for sure. I am surprised USC has completely freaked out.
Slow feet.
It's a layup drill.
This game is over.
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If USC can stop throwing it away, I think it gets interesting.
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If USC can stop throwing it away, I think it gets interesting.
No chance. This is a shit the bed game.
My guess is Gonzaga by 15-20.
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Not only is USC turning it over regularly, but they are brick city as well.
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Nice little run for USC. Good TO by Few. Cut this to 8-9 by half and USC would have to feel pretty good.
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Every time USC looks like they’re going to close the gap a bit Gonzaga makes 3 in a row.
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I’ve come to dislike Gonzaga almost as much as Duke.
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This is a nice team, though.
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Really? I don’t dislike them at all. I haven’t seen anything about them that pisses me off. They’re just good at what they do.
I just wish they had a tougher bracket
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Better scratch Andy Enfield off the Texas short list.
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USC has to play at a frantic pace and hope Gonzaga gets out of their rhythm. USC needs as many possessions as they can get
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Better scratch Andy Enfield off the Texas short list.
But let’s keep Underwood on it.
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I just wish they had a tougher bracket
Like ours? 8)
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That was a disappointing game.
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Go down to the Silver Legacy and put fifty on Gonzaga for me then.
bummer I couldn't make it down there today lol
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Like ours? 8)
I really wish you could just go five minutes without saying something racist
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I really wish you could just go five minutes without saying something racist
Just can't help myself, I guess. Born this way.
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Has this game gotten any better? I can’t tell, I gouged out my eyes.
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Michigan gets to play a fucking bubble team to go to FF
How is it they shut so many teams down but we obliterated them on their home floor without Ayo?
Sorry maybe this is a question for Tempotime.
Also please remember this is “addition by subtraction” season.
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UCLA heating up.
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Guess we can scratch Juwan Howard off of Texas’ list...
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Michigan gets to play a fucking bubble team to go to FF
How is it they shut so many teams down but we obliterated them on their home floor without Ayo?
Sorry maybe this is a question for Tempotime.
Also please remember this is “addition by subtraction” season.
It's college kids. That and match ups are huge in the dance. BU severely out coached Juwan at AA but got boat-raced by Porter. I some respects, that why we watch.
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That Dickinson shot was bullshit. You gotta call that bank.
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It’s been an entertaining but uneven tournament. Are there always this many teams that look great for one or two games then like trash the next, or I am suffering from memory loss from last years’ canceled tourney?
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It’s been an entertaining but uneven tournament. Are there always this many teams that look great for one or two games then like trash the next, or I am suffering from memory loss from last years’ canceled tourney?
Yeah
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Not high scoring, but this has turned into a good game.
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Yeah
I see what you did there.
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I placed 4 small bets on today’s games. Looks like they will all be losers lol
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I placed 4 small bets on today’s games. Looks like they will all be losers lol
Hope that doesn’t put a tarnish on your AOTC rep
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That was a stupid pass.
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Hope that doesn’t put a tarnish on your AOTC rep
Never claimed my record was perfect, just better then average.
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Wow. That was just as terrible as the UCLA effort at the other end
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He's not Skip Dillard, is he?
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He's not Skip Dillard, is he?
Maybe he is....
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The Mexican announcers on my pirate feed don't stop talking when they think they're off the air.
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I am pleased.
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Texas needs to call Mick Cronin tomorrow morning.
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He's good.
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Not bad for an 8th choice.
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He's not Skip Dillard, is he?
A+ for the Skip Dillard reference. I’d have probably never heard that name
again in my life had you not mentioned him.
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Texas needs to call Mick Cronin tomorrow morning.
It’s fitting that in Covid Tourney ‘21 a play-in team makes the Final Four.
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The Chad kid is a chick, right?
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The Chad kid is a chick, right?
Uh, yeah, it is...
Chad is an upcoming American sitcom created by Iranian-American actress Nasim Pedrad. She stars in the title role as Chad, a 14-year-old pubescent Persian boy who navigates his first year of high school ....
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Man that’s really gonna hit home with dozens of viewers.
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Man that’s really gonna hit home with dozens of viewers.
We need someone to now start a thread providing a synopsis and review of each show. I'd almost trust Judge Judy to do it, but Murph will probably actually like the show.
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Yeah you’re probably right. I’d suggest Tempo but we all know he is going to ride the fence on this one. Unless Shaka Smart is playing Chad.
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I wouldn't be surprised if it got cancelled before its debut.
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Uh, yeah, it is...
Chad is an upcoming American sitcom created by Iranian-American actress Nasim Pedrad. She stars in the title role as Chad, a 14-year-old pubescent Persian boy who navigates his first year of high school ....
My guess is it’s someone who’s transitioning at an early age?
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Yeah you’re probably right. I’d suggest Tempo but we all know he is going to ride the fence on this one. Unless Shaka Smart is playing Chad.
I’m somewhat drunk for like the 3rd time in 2 years, but “suggest” me
For what?
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https://www.printyourbrackets.com/why-are-all-first-four-teams-not-16-seeds.html
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My guess is it’s someone who’s transitioning at an early age?
That is what I wondered, then I looked it up. It is some 39 year old chick who was on SNL.
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I’m somewhat drunk for like the 3rd time in 2 years, but “suggest” me
For what?
To start a thread on the Chad show and provide a synopsis and review of each episode. Shaka Smart apparently will have a recurring role as "the basketball coach."
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I'd like to get to know Desi Lydic.
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That is what I wondered, then I looked it up. It is some 39 year old chick who was on SNL.
Right; but from what I can tell it’s an androgynous (or transitioning) kid that the show is based on. Maybe I for the wrong impression IDK.
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I hope it's an April Fool's joke.
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I'd like to get to know Desi Lydic.
Is she in the show Chad too?
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Right; but from what I can tell it’s an androgynous (or transitioning) kid that the show is based on. Maybe I for the wrong impression IDK.
So, you will watch the show and report back on it, as Custard suggested?
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So, you will watch the show and report back on it, as Custard suggested?
Here’s my report. Use caution when eating an already opened sour cream and onion pringles container with French onion dip at the kitchen counter after a full bottle of cab. Lots of crumbs to clean up.
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Open another bottle, for courage.
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Open another bottle, for courage.
I think I’m perfect. Possibly one more glass. But I’m good.
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Have to say, a 39 year old woman playing a 14 year old boy as a main character on tv isn’t something I’d have ever thought I’d see.
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Glad I didn’t open a 2nd bottle. I feel mostly good this morning.
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Fixed that fer ya.
Thanks, dude.
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Here’s my report. Use caution when eating an already opened sour cream and onion pringles container with French onion dip at the kitchen counter after a full bottle of cab. Lots of crumbs to clean up.
I like pringles but didn’t realize the container was edible as well. Very eco-conscious.
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Here’s my report. Use caution when eating an already opened sour cream and onion pringles container with French onion dip at the kitchen counter after a full bottle of cab. Lots of crumbs to clean up.
my man loves his onion flavors haha
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Here’s my report. Use caution when eating an already opened sour cream and onion pringles container with French onion dip at the kitchen counter after a full bottle of cab. Lots of crumbs to clean up.
Should have gone with Bugles. The dip goes inside the "chip"! Perfect dip vessel. "Chip" does not break off in the dip. Maybe you can get some Bugles when you watch the pilot episode of Chad, Tuesday, April 6th, 10:30EDT/9:30CDT.
https://www.tbs.com/shows/chad
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Most white people do.
explains the popularity of Chipotle... i swear their shit is 50% onions
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Man that’s really gonna hit home with dozens of viewers.
HAHA. I wouldn't watch that crap with your eyes.
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With regard to basketball, did anyone else think the last two shots by Michigan were really fcktard play calls?
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With regard to basketball, did anyone else think the last two shots by Michigan were really fcktard play calls?
Second to last shot - yes. The last shot - no.
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With regard to basketball, did anyone else think the last two shots by Michigan were really fcktard play calls?
Yes to Wagner + follow-up layup. Yes with a qualification as to the last Smith shot - he was open but I think the better play would've been a higher percentage shot for the tie.
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Yes to Wagner + follow-up layup. Yes with a qualification as to the last Smith shot - he was open but I think the better play would've been a higher percentage shot for the tie.
Agree on the Smith shot.
As for UCLA, the Jacquez shot from the corner was hurried but I guess he figured Juzang wasn't getting free to get a shot. But all's well that ends well. Wichigan Michigan.
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Second to last shot - yes. The last shot - no.
I thought the final Wagner shot was an amazing play, considering the amount of time available.
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I thought the final Wagner shot was an amazing play, considering the amount of time available.
Agree. Thought he had a pretty decent look.
Smith, on the other hand, should have gone to the hole.
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I guess I thought having Wagner take a three with 12 secs was bad idea as he isn't that great from deep to begin with and was having a terrible night. He is a beast driving and could have drawn foul. Then Smith who was also cold took another three with 2 secs left rather than get closer and get something where they might get fouled.
On last play where Wagner took another three, I guess I wonder why they didn't try some sort of catch/tip and shoot inside FT line- again maybe draw a foul.
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I'm sure it was one of the options.
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I'm sure it was one of the options.
Tough ending. I liked UM a lot before Livers went down.
Only other team besides Illinois and Baylor who could maybe beat Gonzaga if they played well.
With their recruiting going to be a force moving forward.
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I thought they were extremely lucky, and that that luck induced some people to believe they were good.
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Should have gone with Bugles. The dip goes inside the "chip"! Perfect dip vessel. "Chip" does not break off in the dip. Maybe you can get some Bugles when you watch the pilot episode of Chad, Tuesday, April 6th, 10:30EDT/9:30CDT.
https://www.tbs.com/shows/chad
Lol
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I thought they were extremely lucky, and that that luck induced some people to believe they were good.
Who was lucky?
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I thought they were extremely lucky, and that that luck induced some people to believe they were good.
They were pretty good. They made an EE without their leading scorer. Not too bad.
They won some disputed piece of the BT title in what was a historically heralded league until the NCAAs exposed it.
We would be ecstatic with having a team be that lucky as you know and probably rename the court after Hulka.
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How does a 1 seed “get lucky?”
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KenPom has a luck metric for a reason.
Last season, Wisconsin won a B1G title. This year, the same team finished sixth. Analysts say the Badgers schedule, especially in the back half of the conference season, helped them.
Michigan skipped road games at Northwestern and Penn State.
That was lucky. After all, Ohio State & Maryland both lost at Northwestern. Penn State won five games against teams that received at-large bids to the NCAA Tournament.
But Michigan also lost at Minnesota. It was unlucky that they caught the Gophers on a good night, and before key MN players were lost to injury.
When you look at opponents stats in games played against the Wolverines as compared to games played against all other teams, you might find some anomalies. Did they shoot worse because they were having a bad night, or because of great defense? It's hard to prove either way.
Michigan never looked like a dominant team to me. That's my subjective opinion. I think they got lucky, a lot.
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Ok
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I think you have to get awful “lucky” to win the most competitive conference in the country, and miss making the Final Four by a 3 point shot. Takes quite a bit of “luck” to achieve that.
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Obviously the B1G was the best conference, right?
That was an awesomely Tempo-ish question, BTW.
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KenPom has a luck metric for a reason.
Last season, Wisconsin won a B1G title. This year, the same team finished sixth. Analysts say the Badgers schedule, especially in the back half of the conference season, helped them.
Michigan skipped road games at Northwestern and Penn State.
That was lucky. After all, Ohio State & Maryland both lost at Northwestern. Penn State won five games against teams that received at-large bids to the NCAA Tournament.
But Michigan also lost at Minnesota. It was unlucky that they caught the Gophers on a good night, and before key MN players were lost to injury.
When you look at opponents stats in games played against the Wolverines as compared to games played against all other teams, you might find some anomalies. Did they shoot worse because they were having a bad night, or because of great defense? It's hard to prove either way.
Michigan never looked like a dominant team to me. That's my subjective opinion. I think they got lucky, a lot.
I don't think anybody in the BT ever looked dominant. I thought all year the league seemed over rated. A lot of shit ball IMO.
Illinois was slipping toward a 5 seed until they apparently got her ass handed to them by Coach Hulka at Nebraska for fuckign off.
We had a great run after that minus the MSU assault and battery game. Until we fcked the dog vs Loyola doing the fck the dog thing.
There needs to be a Fck The Dog metric. We would have led the league.
Michigan was pretty damn good. They took us lightly up there and we had our best defensive game in last 16 years - minus Ayo which was maybe not a coincidence.
Michigan lost the second MSU game after clinching the BT title and having a letdown.
Minnesota was pretty good at home before the injuries. They beat Iowa also.
They were the most well balanced team in the league with Livers IMO.
As far as the luck thing- KenPom actually had UM ranked lower than us in terms of the luck factor.
Luck – A measure of the deviation between a team’s actual winning percentage and what one would expect from its game-by-game efficiencies. It’s a Dean Oliver invention. Essentially, a team involved in a lot of close games should not win (or lose) all of them. Those that do will be viewed as lucky (or unlucky).
We did win 3 OT games and escaped a loss vs Ohio.
UM had one OT game when they were not yet starting Dickinson and people didn't think they were that good. They had no other close wins, but two close losses.
The schedule thing has some merit. You play more road games you certainly can lose more.
As far as Wisconsin- they were mediocre and had easy schedule last year and were mediocre this year aside from their apparent big win vs Loyola. They were 0-8 vs Top 5 teams in BT.
I dunno. I liked UM. Fun to watch.
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Obviously the B1G was the best conference, right?
That was an awesomely Tempo-ish question, BTW.
It was the deepest. And you should know better than to draw definitive conclusions from a single-elimination tournament. Especially in a whackadoodle year. Do you think Loyola was clearly better than Illinois? Because it looked that way the day they played.
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I dunno, kind of hard to achieve a 1 seed with “luck.” Now if Rob changed the word he used from good to great, I wouldn’t quibble. But clearly, Michigan was “good.”
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I dunno, kind of hard to achieve a 1 seed with “luck.” Now if Rob changed the word he used from good to great, I wouldn’t quibble. But clearly, Michigan was “good.”
So using this logic, the same could be said about Illinois this year.
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It was the deepest. And you should know better than to draw definitive conclusions from a single-elimination tournament. Especially in a whackadoodle year. Do you think Loyola was clearly better than Illinois? Because it looked that way the day they played.
Good post
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Michigan and IL both were teams that did well in large part due to having the most dominant big men in a league full of teams reliant on big men. Both struggled with well coached small ball teams like OSU.
It turned out that Ayo-less Illinois matched up very well with full strength Michigan. Kofi could handle Dickinson one on one and not have to leave their guards open for three. We exploited them mightily on offense for sure.
Loyola was a terrible matchup for Illinois because our bigs couldn’t handle Krutwig’s skill set and we didn’t even try zone. I think Dickinson would have been better than Kofi against Krutwig because he moves better and can get into passing lanes.
In the end they both lost in the tourney to well coached small ball squads like just about every other B1G team did.
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A lot of bullshit about one game samples not being valid. Everybody knows the rules. Get your fcking team ready. The better team does not always win, but that is basketball, or sports.
We were better than UNC in 2005, but the refs called a game that was not favorable to our style. Again, you have to be ready for everything in a tourney.
No excuses. This is why Illinois with Hulka are likely at a disadvantage in that format.
Unfortunately in the NCAA, which is the only thing that fans remember - you get a 40 minute sample of data against your opponent.
FWIW- Gonzaga is supposed to beat UCLA by 12.5- 14.5 points, but only 86/100 times.
Nobody will accuse UCLA of being better if they win, but it could happen. 14/100 isn't impossible.
I don't think anyone thinks MD, Rutgers or Missouri, or MSU is better than Illinois. I don't think anyone thinks Loyola is better than Illinois - but they handed us our ass for that 40 minute sample which we did not prepare for like fcking morons.
UM was good. We were good. Neither was good enough against a decent team if they do not play well in the regular season or in the NCAA. Doesn't mean they were not good teams by the same metrics and results all teams are judged by,
I don't see anyone in the NCAA, except Gonzaga, that can win with their B game against a good team playing well.
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I agree sure wish Gonzaga would have had a little more resistance in getting to championship but if it’s Zags vs Baylor it will have worked out the way it should regardless
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I agree sure wish Gonzaga would have had a little more resistance in getting to championship but if it’s Zags vs Baylor it will have worked out the way it should regardless
That is game we want to see at this point. Baylor will need to play very well.
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So using this logic, the same could be said about Illinois this year.
Uhhhhh, sure? I agree. Illinois was good. What’s your point?
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Uhhhhh, sure? I agree. Illinois was good. What’s your point?
That you do/say everything you can to try and prove they’re not.
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That you do/say everything you can to try and prove they’re not.
When did I ever say this years’ team wasn’t good?
You know, I’ll take any and all
Criticism for things I actually say; but quit distorting what I say to fit your pathetic narratives.
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Apparently Jerry Stackhouse is among the favorites to get the UNC job. Man, that would be great. Talk about getting a job you haven’t earned.
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Hiring alums. UNC, the Hoosiers, the gofs.
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It worked out with Matt Doherty.
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I agree sure wish Gonzaga would have had a little more resistance in getting to championship but if it’s Zags vs Baylor it will have worked out the way it should regardless
I'm gonna root for the Zags since I don't have a dog in the fight. At the very least, we can stop hearing about that 76 Hoser team.
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They are good, but have had a really light schedule.
Timme with the mustache bullshit needs to get clocked.
Would have liked to see them go to MSU and get worked over.
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Baylor needs to play like this Monday night.
They look sharp.
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Baylor needs to play like this Monday night.
They look sharp.
That defense. Holy fuckballs.
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They look focused.
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This is a clinic.
Fuck Kelvin Sampson
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People forget Baylor shoots 41% from three.
They look like they did earlier in year.
Like a better version of our 04-05 team.
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I think we've played defense as good this year as Baylor is playing. After the Md and tOSU losses we started to play it. And we got better at it. We could do it for more than 20 minutes of game time sometimes. Play denial whether it's passing lanes, player movement or rebounding. Takes work, but it was fun to watch.
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Whose idea was it to have Miley Cyrus between games?
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I think you take her wherever you can fit her in.
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I miss Billy Packer.
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Whose idea was it to have Miley Cyrus between games?
I wondered the same thing. Why was that POS there? NCAA Final 4 copying the Super Bowl halftime?
Flipped the channel to baseball game.
UCLA playing well so far. Not sure it can last against Gonzaga.
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Timme is a really good player but I'm getting a little tired of his arm raising every time he scores, even if it's an easy basket.
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Cronin a yeller.
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I was told UCLA was slowing down the pace at about 10 minutes in.
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Cronin a yeller.
There's been a "few" shaky calls against UCLA so far
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Good game. Feels like a 90-79 Gonzaga win coming.
UCLA is a tough team mentally. Just not enough horses.
Juzang is going to be first round NBA pick.
Has had a ridiculous tournament.
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Good game. Feels like a 90-79 Gonzaga win coming.
UCLA is a tough team mentally. Just not enough horses.
Juzang is going to be first round NBA pick.
Has had a ridiculous tournament.
Jaquez and Juzang are tough kids. Looks like Calimari screwed up not playing Juzang, much to UCLA's delight.
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Tyger Campbell needs to sink some shots.
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Tyger Campbell needs to sink some shots.
There's a big shot for him
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UCLANs weathered that storm. I thought maybe the Zags would go on a run.
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UCLANs weathered that storm. I thought maybe the Zags would go on a run.
When Gonzaga went up 7, I thought oh-oh. But Cronin has them believing they can play
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horrible turnover by Jaquez and dodged a bullet.
Having only 1 really tough game all year going to bite Gonzaga in the backside?
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UCLA kinda slow on the last possession.
OT! I would try to get Timme fouled out
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That was nuts.
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!!!!!!
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Holy shitsnacks.
Bright side is at least the 2 best teams season-long are in the final.
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That was one of the best finishes I’ve ever seen. The last 20 seconds was amazing!
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Who wins the bracket ? I'm rooting for Baylor instead of a Michigan fan winning this thing.
Sorry, Sven. I'm sure you understand.
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Who wins the bracket ? I'm rooting for Baylor instead of a Michigan fan winning this thing.
Sorry, Sven. I'm sure you understand.
Custard has won it already.
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I think Baylor wins it to be honest. When your road to get here is directional university, Oklahoma, Creighton, USC and UCLA with the last one pushing you to the limit, that isn’t exactly a daunting gauntlet. Their road here was kind of like Illinois road only they completed it and thanks again to Coach Unimpressed for his epic failure.
It’s not just an NC game for Gonzaga, but the undefeated streak as well. That last part almost bit them last game. It should bite them completely against Baylor. All that great WCC competition they’ve faced all season comes back to bite them Monday night.
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If I were a betting person, I would bet on Baylor.
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Custard has won it already.
Looks to me that if Gonzaga wins, Sven ends up with 970.
Custard has 940.
You probably just don't want to look down in the standings for some reason.
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Looks to me that if Gonzaga wins, Sven ends up with 970.
Custard has 940.
You probably just don't want to look down in the standings for some reason.
So Custard picked Baylor over Illinois?
Take his homer card away.
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Cancel culture coming for you, Custard.
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I think Baylor wins it to be honest. When your road to get here is directional university, Oklahoma, Creighton, USC and UCLA with the last one pushing you to the limit, that isn’t exactly a daunting gauntlet. Their road here was kind of like Illinois road only they completed it and thanks again to Coach Unimpressed for his epic failure.
It’s not just an NC game for Gonzaga, but the undefeated streak as well. That last part almost bit them last game. It should bite them completely against Baylor. All that great WCC competition they’ve faced all season comes back to bite them Monday night.
UCLA played a great game. Gonzaga actually played very well, also. Might have been the best game we saw all year where two very good teams played at really high level in addition to the first OSU/UM game.
If UCLA had handled the last possession in regulation a little better where they seemed confused as to time and situation they would have won. UCLA turned out to be a very solid team with a kid who was under radar and is now an NBA lock and caught fire last three weeks.
That said- I think Gonzaga held, and that may have been the best opportunity to knock them off.
I think they beat Baylor.
As much as I would like to view them as the Duke of the West and their ability to pick and choose whomever they want from recruits/transfers and Euro players every year- it is hard to not like and respect Few.
I think what you see on camera is real. And he gets kids to stay to build program continuity.
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UCLA played a great game. Gonzaga actually played very well, also. Might have been the best game we saw all year where two very good teams played at really high level in addition to the first OSU/UM game.
If UCLA had handled the last possession in regulation a little better where they seemed confused as to time and situation they would have won. UCLA turned out to be a very solid team with a kid who was under radar and is now an NBA lock and caught fire last three weeks.
That said- I think Gonzaga held, and that may have been the best opportunity to knock them off.
I think they beat Baylor.
As much as I would like to view them as the Duke of the West and their ability to pick and choose whomever they want from recruits/transfers and Euro players every year- it is hard to not like and respect Few.
I think what you see on camera is real. And he gets kids to stay to build program continuity.
Creighton was the highest rated team they played in the tourney and they were missing players 🤣🤣🤣. That’s a pretty easy road to get to the NC game if you ask me.
Now they face the toughest test of the season and they haven’t seen a team the caliber of Baylor all season. I’m not wavering on this one, I’m sticking with Baylor.
Oh and PS. UCLA just happened to catch lightning in a bottle at the right time as did the entire PAC 12 and kudos to them for that, but at the end of the day they’re not Baylor. Baylor will bring it trust me.
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Creighton was the highest rated team they played in the tourney and they were missing players 🤣🤣🤣. That’s a pretty easy road to get to the NC game if you ask me.
Now they face the toughest test of the season and they haven’t seen a team the caliber of Baylor all season. I’m not wavering on this one, I’m sticking with Baylor.
Oh and PS. UCLA just happened to catch lightning in a bottle at the right time as did the entire PAC 12 and kudos to them for that, but at the end of the day they’re not Baylor. Baylor will bring it trust me.
I like Baylor a lot. Toughest team mentally and physically, well coached, balanced, and very talented on both sides of ball.
And I can't stand Timme. Gonzaga has 4 guys who will play in the NBA, though, and are really pretty damn good.
They dodged a bullet last night.
I am leaning toward them.
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Haha I said the same thing you did earlier about Baylor being a better version of 04-05 Illini. Said multiple times how I wanted to be on Gonzaga’s side of bracket and not Baylor’s. Three great guards, 6’9” guy like Mayer who can do it all, versatile defenders like Vital and EDJ, team plays suffocating defense. I’ve been saying for months Illinois had a roster that was too traditional and they showed us all year they could damn near lose to anyone.
Back when a bunch of posters were talking shit about Loyola I was mentioning how Krutwig presented problems for us but thought the potential round of 16 matchup against OSU (the Oklahoma variant) would be more likely to trip us. I thought if we got through that we’d handle whoever came out of the other side of the bracket. So I still did the homer thing and had IL winning the region but man the type of basketball Baylor plays is the future and what I want IL basketball to become. That’s why I picked them and didn’t have to think too hard about it.
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Looks to me that if Gonzaga wins, Sven ends up with 970.
Custard has 940.
You probably just don't want to look down in the standings for some reason.
Baylor has already won after last night.
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If Baylor maintains this intensity this might be a laugher
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"Oh shit, a team that doesn't suck."
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See. Told ya what would happen if they actually played someone. Now let’s see how they respond.
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Doesn't Few know how to game plan?
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Meant to throw a small bet on Baylor. I hope Baylor humiliates them. Gonzaga needs to man up and join the Pac12.
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Doesn't Few know how to game plan?
Tempotime: I told you guys😂🤣😂🤣yeah he needs to be fired and replaced immediately.
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Meant to throw a small bet on Baylor. I hope Baylor humiliates them. Gonzaga needs to man up and join the Pac12.
Yeah I wish they would join the PAC-12 as well.
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Tempotime: I told you guys😂🤣😂🤣yeah he needs to be fired and replaced immediately.
I wouldn’t go that far. Few didn’t get manhandled for 40 minutes from start to finish by a Mid Major. Something Coach Underwhelming now has on his permanent resume.
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Gonzaga fortunate to be down only by 10.
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Gonzaga fortunate to be down only by 10.
Yeah I don’t think Baylor could’ve played a better half.
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Baylor played near perfect half.
Will see if they can keep this intensity up.
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Yeah. I think this one is getting close to in the books. Time for Gonfaqua to join a real conference. Butler did it. Time for these pansies to man up and play the big boys night in and night out.
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So much for Gonzaga being an all-time great team. They’re very, very good; but again, Gonzaga is a bit overrated.
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No Baylor players murdered by teammates. This has been a wildly successful tourney for Baylor.
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31-0 and Baylor is gonna drop close to a 100 on them 🤣🤣🤣. Join a real conference Gonfaqua.
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So much for Gonzaga being an all-time great team. They’re very, very good; but again, Gonzaga is a bit overrated.
People fall for it every year.
Every. Year.
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Why would they want to join a real conference and give up their super protected seed every year
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Why would they want to join a real conference and give up their super protected seed every year
My thoughts exactly. They’d be dumb to go to another conference. Us the fans want it, but it adds no benefit for them to.
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31-0 and Baylor is gonna drop close to a 100 on them 🤣🤣🤣. Join a real conference Gonfaqua.
Perhaps the Missouri Valley, with powerhouse Loyola Chicago?
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So much for Gonzaga being an all-time great team. They’re very, very good; but again, Gonzaga is a bit overrated.
OK, so they were rated as the #1 team in the country and are gonna finish 2nd.
That means they were exactly as overrated as the 2005 Illinois Fighting Illini
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Baylor played great. All credit to them.
This was Few's best team.
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OK, so they were rated as the #1 team in the country and are gonna finish 2nd.
That means they were exactly as overrated as the 2005 Illinois Fighting Illini
And if you go back and watch the videos that season, you'll find plenty of analysts who correctly projected UNC as the best team.
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Dave Bliss was an IU assistant when Knight recruited those loaded 75 and 76 teams that went 31-1 and 32-0.
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And if you go back and watch the videos that season, you'll find plenty of analysts who correctly projected UNC as the best team.
and don't even get me started on the overrated 1991 UNLV team
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(https://i.ibb.co/3740nXL/9459-EC1-E-36-BF-4859-AA34-BA7-B8-C251261.jpg) (https://ibb.co/bPQrkh8)
Good game, pussieatr.
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my bracket was a fucking disaster LOL, my wife beat me ffs... I didn't put much effort in though, thankfully
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my bracket was a fucking disaster LOL, I didn't put much effort in though, thankfully
I just watched more basketball this year than normal. Probably because Illinois was good and COVID limiting some other entertainment options.
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And if you go back and watch the videos that season, you'll find plenty of analysts who correctly projected UNC as the best team.
I was really surprised how many analysts forgot about Baylor during the bracket release hoopla. Sure Gonzaga was undefeated and had beat some good teams early. And Illinois was on a tear and just won the BTT beating two top ten teams along the way. But man, it just seemed obvious to me that Baylor had the recipe.
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I just watched more basketball this year than normal. Probably because Illinois was good and COVID limiting some other entertainment options.
I pretty much only watched the Illini, didn't have time for much else, thought this was our year if some breaks went our way! Clearly it was not haha
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I pretty much only watched the Illini, didn't have time for much else, thought this was our year if some breaks went our way! Clearly it was not haha
Well, you are known for getting all your evidence from one somewhat unreliable source and then drawing incorrect conclusions based on that flawed evidence.
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Well, you are known for getting all your evidence from one somewhat unreliable source and then drawing incorrect conclusions based on that flawed evidence.
So much better to draw conclusions based on political bias; then select or make up evidence that supports our conclusions. I think that might even have a name. Confirmation Bias.
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Well, you are known for getting all your evidence from one somewhat unreliable source and then drawing incorrect conclusions based on that flawed evidence.
Ill have you know I get my information from many unreliable sources, not just one buddy
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I was really surprised how many analysts forgot about Baylor during the bracket release hoopla. Sure Gonzaga was undefeated and had beat some good teams early. And Illinois was on a tear and just won the BTT beating two top ten teams along the way. But man, it just seemed obvious to me that Baylor had the recipe.
Nobody forgot about them. They simply had not been playing as well as they had before their Covid break. Were not same team. Still got 2nd seed overall and were picked by many to make title game over us.
Tonight was them at their best pre February.
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This was a really weak tourney field plain and simple. Not many great teams and a lot of lackluster teams. Yeah, Gonzaga beat Kansas and West Virginia, but they weren’t exactly typical Self/Huggins world beaters, then beat nobody for 2 months. They really do need to join the PAC.
What happened to Gonfaqua tonight was the same thing that happened to Illinois only it was Baylor and normally Gonfaqua would get a pass, but not this year. Gonfaqua was supposed to win it all and came up well short for 40 minutes with it all on the line. The only thing Gonfaqua will hear for the next year is how overrated they are and that they need to join a real conference to prepare for the tourney.
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We wouldn't have beaten Baylor, even tho some of the experts had us in the final.
Congrats to Custard .......
For picking Baylor in an Illini message board that he started.
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We wouldn't have beaten Baylor, even tho some of the experts had us in the final.
Congrats to Custard .......
For picking Baylor in an Illini message board that he started.
Hey I’m a homer remember!
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Hey I’m a homer remember!
You are. Lol
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Gonfaqua
how do you pronounce that?
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OK, so they were rated as the #1 team in the country and are gonna finish 2nd.
That means they were exactly as overrated as the 2005 Illinois Fighting Illini
Well they were being hyped as a “super team.” A super team doesn’t get completely pantsed in the title game.
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Well they were being hyped as a “super team.” A super team doesn’t get completely pantsed in the title game.
Shit happens. Gonzaga had a bad shooting game from three and had early game jitters.
Baylor had game earlier in tourney where they went 3-19.
They were en fuego last two games.
My guess in 7 game series it would be a tossup.
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Shit happens. Gonzaga had a bad shooting game from three and had early game jitters.
Baylor had game earlier in tourney where they went 3-19.
They were en fuego last two games.
My guess in 7 game series it would be a tossup.
Gonzaga had finally cut it to ten, and Baylor starts the 2nd half with a guy hitting two threes from 6 feet outside the arc. Some nights are just written a certain way.
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Baylor shot 3% better from three than their season average. If one of those had missed they’d have shot below their season average from three and still won by double digits. Baylor plays exceptional defense, they made Zaga work for everything. Of course they didn’t shoot lights out. Baylor is better and it’s not really close.
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On yesterday's Zoom, Shannon said "so is everyone taking Gonzaga?"
There wasn't a whole lot of response, because it's a Zoom. Maybe Richey said something about being a complete team. Kent said fatigue wouldn't be a concern.
Nobody said "Baylor is a known quantity of superior capability while the Zags have, as usual, little experience against good opponents."
To me, the analysis seemed pretty simple.
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Hey I’m a homer remember!
You handle the burden well.
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HQ evolved to become the home of the most objective of Illini fanatics
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On yesterday's Zoom, Shannon said "so is everyone taking Gonzaga?"
There wasn't a whole lot of response, because it's a Zoom. Maybe Richey said something about being a complete team. Kent said fatigue wouldn't be a concern.
Nobody said "Baylor is a known quantity of superior capability while the Zags have, as usual, little experience against good opponents."
To me, the analysis seemed pretty simple.
Baylor played great game. All credit to them.
Gonzaga was not quite ready for bear. Got abused on boards and had bad shooting night.
Bad combination.
Both very good teams.
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I’m a closeted Gonzaga fan, but I think the late night OT win with miracle shot was bad news. They were not prepared to play a team like Baylor and that wasn’t the right time to get a game like that.
Baylor’s covid pause seemed to make everyone forget how good they are
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“They were just so much more aggressive," Few said. “We haven’t played a team like that this year.”
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There were only 2 really good teams.
Worst quality of college BB I have ever seen in my life, and continuing a slide that had already started
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I’m a closeted Gonzaga fan, but I think the late night OT win with miracle shot was bad news. They were not prepared to play a team like Baylor and that wasn’t the right time to get a game like that.
Baylor’s covid pause seemed to make everyone forget how good they are
That was the best they played since January. Had not looked good for awhile.
They regrouped as tourney progressed and Drew is surprisingly decent coach.
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Worst quality of college BB I have ever seen in my life, and continuing a slide that had already started
you ain't seen nothin' yet
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There were only 2 really good teams.
Worst quality of college BB I have ever seen in my life, and continuing a slide that had already started
It is going to look a lot like AAU except for the program that can keep a core group together for a couple years, and then they have to get those kids to buy into a system, which is an entirely different issue. And of course that coach has to have an effective system they can teach besides rolling the balls out and preaching some usual coachspeak.
Getting all of that in line will be rare.
Similar to before only much worse as the previous 35-40% transfer rate will likely go up higher now.
The problem is the best P5 players want out after 1 or 2 years which was always true.
Then, a ton of P5 guys who think they are NBA material (and are not) will transfer to get showcased better in their mind. Of course coaches will tell them what they want to hear to get them which is not new either.
Not a good recipe for team play.
A lot of best midmajor players increasingly want to move up after 1 or 2 years to get into the mix for a pro career afterwards, or just be part of a P5 program experience.
Of course, then you have the kids who just are not happy, or were in over their head, or it is a crappy program.
Unless you get a ridiculous buttload of talent in a given year (like Kentucky and Duke has typically done) or keep a good amount of talent around for a couple seasons- most teams will look ragged as fuck and compete at fairly similar sloppy inconsistent level. Kind of like the BT this year. It gets mistaken for parity.
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https://www.sportingnews.com/us/ncaa-basketball/list/ncaa-tournament-best-teams-that-didnt-win-duke-kentucky-unc-unlv/xxd1ig1um12y18vsqqrs8agqv/36
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I was playing college hoops 2k8 yesterday on my PS3 and was doing the tourney with my team... Duke as a 1 seed lost to Dartmouth a 16 seed in the simulation... first time i've ever seen that and certainly got a kick out of it LOL
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I was playing college hoops 2k8 yesterday on my PS3 and was doing the tourney with my team... Duke as a 1 seed lost to Dartmouth a 16 seed in the simulation... first time i've ever seen that and certainly got a kick out of it LOL
At least they were in that fake tourney on 2K8 to lose to the 16 seed. Real life isn’t even treating them that well 😂
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There were only 2 really good teams.
Worst quality of college BB I have ever seen in my life, and continuing a slide that had already started
We were probably the 3rd best team in the country and it turned out we weren’t that great, so I’d say this assessment is pretty spot on.
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8 seed?
https://www.cbssports.com/college-basketball/rankings/net/
https://kenpom.com/
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Just now saw that?
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Just now saw that?
What are you looking at? Link is to NET rankings at end of year.
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The metrics loved Loyola well before now
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What are you looking at? Link is to NET rankings at end of year.
https://kenpom.com/
This is interesting too
http://www.realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html
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The metrics loved Loyola well before now
Oh, FFS.
Are you still trying to claim how good Loyola was to rationalize the Illini loss?
How do you explain that Oregon State who were total dogs in these same metrics (43 KenPOM, 91 in NET, 46 in RPI) beat them easily?
There is no way to explain the Illinois loss other than we played like total shit, and were coached like total shit against a team we should have beat easily.
Did you know Underwood says he has refused to watch the game yet?
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Oh, FFS.
Are you still trying to claim how good Loyola was to rationalize the Illini loss?
How do you explain that Oregon State who were total dogs in these same metrics (43 KenPOM, 91 in NET, 46 in RPI) beat them easily?
There is no way to explain the Illinois loss other than we played like total shit, and were coached like total shit against a team we should have beat easily.
Did you know Underwood says he has refused to watch the game yet?
Still makes no sense that Loyola was an 8 seed. They were a 3 seed by the net, kenpom, and rpi. A 1 seed should not play a 3 seed in second round. Ever.
Oregon State was an anomaly. They sucked early on, but got hot late, beat a number of good teams, and way out played their metrics.
Why would Underwood watch the game? To make adjustments for ???
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Still makes no sense that Loyola was an 8 seed. They were a 3 seed by the net, kenpom, and rpi. A 1 seed should not play a 3 seed in second round. Ever.
Oregon State was an anomaly. They sucked early on, but got hot late, beat a number of good teams, and way out played their metrics.
Why would Underwood watch the game? To make adjustments for ???
And we way underplayed our metric by the same logic.
And who gives a fuck when you play someone. In a one and done format you have to be ready for anything and be able to adapt.
Our staff and players shit the bed. We would not have beaten anyone that day. We actually had several games like that before the last month of season where we didn't come out ready, prepare, or give a fuck and escaped, or got beat.
This staff has a long way to go.
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I’ll accept the blame for LKdog
consistently misinterpreting what I say. I must not be communicating well.
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We did not out play our top 5 metric.
Oregon State was still better than their rank late in the season
Loyola still should have been a 3 or 4 seed
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I’ll accept the blame for LKdog
consistently misinterpreting what I say. I must not be communicating well.
Oh, you are pretty clear in a Tempo Lite sort of way.
What you are saying consistently now is it was unfair that we had to play a team that might possibly beat us in second game of NCAA's if we happened to play like ass and the staff prepared like lazy fucks, and then shit their pants during the game when it was obvious what we were doing was being taken away by garden variety high school coach tactics.
We should not be expected to play anyone very good, or play and prepare until S16 or EE I guess since we were a 1 seed. We had two AA's and BT 6th man of the year. How dare they try to beat us.
Got it.
Let's say Loyola was under seeded. They were ranked 17 in last AP poll. I'll play. They really could have have been a 4 or 5 seed and nobody would have given a shit.
Doesn't change anything. We came. We saw. We got our ass handed to us due to lack of prep and readiness from the first second.
And it does matter that Coach Hulka watch the game. He needs to learn how to make in game adjustments sometime in his career.
And as far as discounting metrics for OSU, but adhering to them for Loyola- that is just silly and illogical. In a one and done tournament- you get one 40 minute sample- not a best of 5 series.
You take everybody seriously and expect adversity. But Hulka just rolls the balls out and relies on his stars making plays and toughness. He got a hot streak by Evans at OSU to recover from a terrible 0-6 league start. He actually lost his last four games at OSU (was actually 9-10 overall in the B12) and then parlayed that into this job. Oh- and there were ranked 155th in country in defense based upon KenPom metrics.
He is totally inexperienced in the NCAA's. He snuck up up on a couple teams in early round game a couple times at SFA, and of course we beat Drexel. He has never won consecutive games in the NCAA's. He is 3-5 all time in NCAAs.
I hope he develops and I hope Antigua and Coleman stick around.
Metrics have their place. So does actually watching what is going on. At least I was consistent all year in stating the BT looked totally over rated and had a bunch of totally shit teams beyond the top 3 or 4.
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I watched a lot of Loyola. The notion they were severely under seeded is not one I agree with. I’m not even remotely sure they would have beaten GT without Moses Wright, in fact I would have picked against it.
The Loyola you saw against OST was a fairly common one over their last month.
I know this because I was in the trenches with them gambling. The last 4 games...
-They scored 3 points over the last 8 minutes and lost to Drake
- 20 point favorite to Valpo. Scored 54 and won by 2, a last second shot rimmed out for valpo
- 20 point favorite to SIU in a 2 game series. Won a grinder to the end game 1, game 2 won in OT because a SIU guy missed a FT in regulation
I think plenty of the power conference Teams would have kicked their ass. Any of those top SEC or Pac 12 teams would have pummeled them
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we lost, it happens, god you people are worse than women... get over it already
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we lost, it happens, god you people are worse than women... get over it already
Yeah. We will be a 1 seed again soon. No worries.
We are reloading as we speak.
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we lost, it happens, god you people are worse than women... get over it already
Ironic for the QAnon guy!
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Yeah. We will be a 1 seed again soon. No worries.
We are reloading as we speak.
good to know
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good to know
I have the year 2036 penciled in for our next 1 seed.
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I watched a lot of Loyola. The notion they were severely under seeded is not one I agree with. I’m not even remotely sure they would have beaten GT without Moses Wright, in fact I would have picked against it.
The Loyola you saw against OST was a fairly common one over their last month.
I know this because I was in the trenches with them gambling. The last 4 games...
-They scored 3 points over the last 8 minutes and lost to Drake
- 20 point favorite to Valpo. Scored 54 and won by 2, a last second shot rimmed out for valpo
- 20 point favorite to SIU in a 2 game series. Won a grinder to the end game 1, game 2 won in OT because a SIU guy missed a FT in regulation
I think plenty of the power conference Teams would have kicked their ass. Any of those top SEC or Pac 12 teams would have pummeled them
Duly noted that Loyola had some bad games. I could come up with similar games by virtually every good team. Everyone has good days, middling days, and bad days.
My point is seeding should reflect the metrics they are using unless there are extenuating circumstances.
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Duly noted that Loyola had some bad games. I could come up with similar games by virtually every good team. Everyone has good days, middling days, and bad days.
My point is seeding should reflect the metrics they are using unless there are extenuating circumstances.
True. The P5 conferences get too much credit.
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Duly noted that Loyola had some bad games. I could come up with similar games by virtually every good team. Everyone has good days, middling days, and bad days.
My point is seeding should reflect the metrics they are using unless there are extenuating circumstances.
I think they could have been given as high as a 6 seed. I was a little surprised by 8, but it’s not outrageous. I mean that conference is horrible and their OOC schedule was worse than horrible.
Again, I don’t think they beat GT with Moses Wright, which was an unbelievable gift that is going under appreciated. And quite frankly could have had massive repercussions on Illinois
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I have the year 2036 penciled in for our next 1 seed.
Bummer I was hoping 2022
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I think they could have been given as high as a 6 seed. I was a little surprised by 8, but it’s not outrageous. I mean that conference is horrible and their OOC schedule was worse than horrible.
Again, I don’t think they beat GT with Moses Wright, which was an unbelievable gift that I think didn’t get the attention it deserved. And quite frankly could have had massive repercussions on Illinois
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Forgot to log in as your mult?
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I could buy the whole weak conference thing if it were only the metrics that valued them. But Loyola was ranked 17 in the end of season AP poll. They had a history/some players with recent tourney success. There were plenty of humans that thought they were pretty solid, too.
Their results against conference opponents that know and scout them intensively isn’t a great barometer either. They play a game that values possessions so close games are a given. They had a knack for winning the vast majority of them which according to KenPom is a measure of quality coaching.
And the metrics didn’t just like them, they loved them. Top 10 in KenPom. #1 KenPom defense. That’s a brutal 8 seed.
They could have easily been a 5 and there would have been little argument. If IL was truly a championship caliber team we should have beat them.
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good to know
I for one, am relieved.