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General Category => The Deuce => Spark vs Tempo => Topic started by: Custard on February 25, 2020, 10:22:52 AM
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Discuss
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I will let you know what I think about this move three years from now after I see how it works out.
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way to go out on a limb there!
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I will let you know what I think about this move three years from now after I see how it works out.
AOTC
On a real note, I hope Tempo finds his way here.
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Can you message people on The Reddit?
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i sent Tempo a note from the Reddit site.
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I will let you know what I think about this move three years from now after I see how it works out.
AOTC
On a real note, I hope Tempo finds his way here.
Have i ever let you down?
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For reals though, I wasn’t sure I’d check in on Reddit anytime in the near future, but I did and found this link. Nice job, NTACF.
The Spark v Tempo forum was a nice touch.
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Discuss
Yep, somewhat risky.
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I will let you know what I think about this move three years from now after I see how it works out.
AOTC
On a real note, I hope Tempo finds his way here.
Have i ever let you down?
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Hi Tempo.
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Can you message people on The Reddit?
yes you can!
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I will let you know what I think about this move three years from now after I see how it works out.
AOTC
On a real note, I hope Tempo finds his way here.
Have i ever let you down?
Never buddy.
Hope all is well.
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Tempo won this one.
Be interested in a Tempo versus Spark on Eddie Van Halen versus whatever guitarist Spark would pick.
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Not Van Hagar
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Sammy Hagar > David Lee Roth
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Still waiting on that first Khalil Mack playoff win. Meanwhile, the Bears don’t have a QB or O-line. Maybe some draft picks would have been nice.
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Tempo returns with a flurry of hot takes! Agree with you on Mack. Disagree on Van Halen v. Van Hagar.
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Still waiting on that first Khalil Mack playoff win. Meanwhile, the Bears don’t have a QB or O-line. Maybe some draft picks would have been nice.
A GM who doesn't fuck up high draft picks would be nice too
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Foles is trash. As a starter anyway. The Vikings are missing like 5 of their top 6 DBs. Not even an exaggeration and the offensive genius that is Matt Nagy can’t put up more than 2 FGs.
Also, you have a professional running back on the team in Lamar Miller. Why is he not getting any work? Cordarrelle Patterson is a special teams player, not a RB. Matt Nagy, three years behind the curve. Again.
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Good.to have you back, Tempo!!!
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Who wants to step forward and make the case for retaining Pace and Nagy?
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So this place is a morgue, huh? Is the basketball forum getting any activity at least? Spark around?
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MiniDitka and Royko need to self flagellate. Could gave used those Mack draft picks for offensive linema. And the Raiders are better!
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So this place is a morgue, huh? Is the basketball forum getting any activity at least? Spark around?
Everyone is still in the COVID and election threads....plus, if they came over to the Bears threads they'd have to admit you were AOTC.
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MiniDitka and Royko need to self flagellate. Could gave used those Mack draft picks for offensive linema. And the Raiders are better!
Gabe Carimi says good idea.
The McCaskeys ?
I'm guessing not so much.
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Gabe Carimi says good idea.
The McCaskeys ?
I'm guessing not so much.
Gabe Carini would be starting if he showed up to Halas Hall tomorrow.
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Sammy Hagar > David Lee Roth
If you compare them now, absolutely. Back in the day, DLR. 90's to 2000's, I'd say a toss up.
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This place is deader than the Bears’ playoff chances.
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So only two of Ryan Pace’s six 1st rounders are with the club. One is Mitch Trubisky. So looks like next year that number will be one.
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John Groce and Matt Nagy: separated at birth? It’s a viable theory.
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Ladders and wrist bands and SEAL training and Jesus are just what the Bears need.
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So only two of Ryan Pace’s six 1st rounders are with the club. One is Mitch Trubisky. So looks like next year that number will be one.
You wanted Pace to have 2 more picks.
Member ?
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🤣
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You wanted Pace to have 2 more picks.
Member ?
Eh, more picks means more chances to hit.
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You wanted Pace to have 2 more picks.
Member ?
And of course, those two picks make up 1/3rd of that total. So no small number. I’m going to guess our 2019 and 2020 picks would be on the team.
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Which one of those picks would have been better and more productive than 2018-2020+ Khalil Mack?
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Which one of those picks would have been better and more productive than 2018-2020+ Khalil Mack?
Impossible to know. How many playoff wins have we gotten from the Mack trade?
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Which one of those picks would have been better and more productive than 2018-2020+ Khalil Mack?
Maybe two linemen who can actually block?
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Maybe two linemen who can actually block?
With Pace’s sterling track record of drafting/O Line acquisitions?
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With Pace’s sterling track record of drafting/O Line acquisitions?
Maybe they would not have signed Jay Leno to that contract if they had picks?
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Maybe two linemen who can actually block?
You mean they make lineman that can block?
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With Pace’s sterling track record of drafting/O Line acquisitions?
Or, you know, don’t try.
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Maybe they would not have signed Jay Leno to that contract if they had picks?
Jay Leno could probably play guard for this team.
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Maybe they would not have signed Jay Leno to that contract if they had picks?
Would rather look at his car collection than watch the Bears
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I knew I shouldn't have opened a can of year old worms.
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I knew I shouldn't have opened a can of year old worms.
Just admit Tempo was right that it was a risky move!
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Just admit Tempo was right that it was a risky move!
Two and a half years later, both coach and GM are looking like prime candidates to be fired. So yeah, a little risky. When all said and done, the Trubisky pick was the real killer.
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Hey PAM, remember when Spark used statistics to make the case Mitchell Trubisky was near Patrick Mahomes’ level?
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Hey PAM, remember when Spark used statistics to make the case Mitchell Trubisky was near Patrick Mahomes’ level?
And Royko was the expert in quarterbacks who agreed with him!
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Wasn't it Royko who would explain contracts ?
Pace, Nagy and Trubs involved more risk than the Mack trade, imo. The money involved was huge tho.
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Ghost surfaced here as slats grobnik no?
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Ghost surfaced here as slats grobnik no?
yes. have not seen him for awhile
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Wasn't it Royko who would explain contracts ?
Pace, Nagy and Trubs involved more risk than the Mack trade, imo. The money involved was huge tho.
Royko claimed he was an expert analyzer of college QBs.
Money and draft picks! And the Bears line really blows!
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yes. have not seen him for awhile
Everyone PM him!
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Royko claimed he was an expert analyzer of college QBs.
Money and draft picks! And the Bears line really blows!
I’ll be honest here, I think Royko said he wasn’t good at QBs IIRC.
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Wasn't it Royko who would explain contracts ?
Pace, Nagy and Trubs involved more risk than the Mack trade, imo. The money involved was huge tho.
Yes, Royko seemed to know every contract situation.
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Spark and Tempo34 should just get a room and fuck already.
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Spark and Tempo34 should just get a room and fuck already.
HOT take!
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Bears proving Tempo right again....
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Bears proving Tempo right again....
Matt Nagy was COY in 2018! Put some RESPECT on his name!
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Coach of the year the year?
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Matt Nagy was COY the year in 2018! Put some RESPECT on his name!
Yeah, I remember those arguments....
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Yeah, I remember those arguments....
I remember when Matt Nagy held the dynamic Rams to 3 points.
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Coach of the year the year?
Kewl, you got me on that one
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Pace absolutely has to go, however. In the 2018 draft he stood at the plate with a 67% chance of hitting a tape-measure grand slam and struck out on a hanging curve. He cannot be allowed to select our next QB.
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He could have had the chance for a backwards K this year, if he hadn't given the pick up for some guy named Mack.
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I remember when Matt Nagy held the dynamic Rams to 3 points.
You are on a roll.....
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He could have had the chance for a backwards K this year, if he hadn't given the pick up for some guy named Mack.
Who had one really good year. The rest so far? Meh....
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Damn, you fucks are still at it huh?
How's everyone doing?
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Much better thanks to your glorious return!
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Damn, you fucks are still at it huh?
How's everyone doing?
Nothing like beating a dead horse
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Much better thanks to your glorious return!
Pretty glorious!
Thanks for the reminder that the cesspool still lives.
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Nothing like beating a dead horse
Speaking of, how's about the LaRussa hire!
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Welcome back, Slats.
Been lurking all this time ?
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Welcome back, Slats.
Been lurking all this time ?
Thanks!
Nope, haven't been here in a while, probably since March or so.
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His name got brought up in one of the Bears Suck threads so I sent him a PM to make sure he hadn’t died of cancer
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You libtard fucks have been wanting me to die of cancer for half of my existence. Unfortunately for you lefties I’ll be around long after the Chinese Cold has been exposed.
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This forum is really losing steam. Where’s Spark?
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This forum is really losing steam. Where’s Spark?
Uh, Spark and I have been exchanging direct messages and including you in them and you never respond....
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This forum is really losing steam. Where’s Spark?
No kidding. Can't you and he get into some debate about something for us lurkers to sit back and enjoy? There's gotta be something you can argue about.
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Actually activity is way up since basketball started. These are the salad days
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Actually activity is way up since basketball started. These are the salad days
I mean the forum featuring Spark and, yours truly.
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Uh, Spark and I have been exchanging direct messages and including you in them and you never respond....
I’d probably have to know what you’re taking about first. DMs here? Where?
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I’d probably have to know what you’re taking about first. DMs here? Where?
Looks like you figured it out.
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Looks like you figured it out.
Never thought to check my “inbox.”
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In your settings menu you can set it to send you an email when you get a PM or send a notification when you come back to the site or both. Pretty handy.
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In your settings menu you can set it to send you an email when you get a PM or send a notification when you come back to the site or both. Pretty handy.
Personally, I’d rather just leave them hanging.
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Kinda like straddling a fence.
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Kinda like straddling a fence.
You got it, troll.
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Either Mack read this thread or he is a big fan of Mitch.
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Is Khalil Mack still a Bear? Haven’t heard his name in a while.
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Thanks for waking him up!!!
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The Mack trade has really paid off.
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The Mack trade has really paid off.
Made the playoffs (only because of The COVID)!!!!
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Sealing Tempo's correctness on the Mack trade.
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Too bad the Bears couldn't use those draft picks given to the Raiders to build depth at linebacker so Drew Brees wouldn't be able to pick apart a Manti Te'o.
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Lombardi on this week's GM Shuffle podcast discusses how Mack is overpaid....
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Sealing Tempo's correctness on the Mack trade.
So I’m going to declare victory here. Bears playoff wins with 3 years of Mack: 0. Still don’t have a quarterback, and don’t have the assets to get one. Game over. Turned out it WAS risky afterall.
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Mack lead them to the playoffs 2 of 3 seasons, the first time that happened since 05-07 and 2018 was also the first bears playoff appearance in 7 years
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https://twitter.com/i/status/1364661654269554689
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Mack lead them to the playoffs 2 of 3 seasons, the first time that happened since 05-07 and 2018 was also the first bears playoff appearance in 7 years
This is the attitude that caused us to lose in Vietnam.
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This is the attitude that caused us to lose in Vietnam.
In a nutshell. And the same attitude that led to Ryan Pace being rewarded the task of finding the Bears’ next QB after whiffing as badly as any GM in history at the position for 6 years.
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The Bears could have kept those picks and taken Montez Sweat in the 1st round in 2019. Dude’s a baller, and 24 yrs old.
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This is the attitude that caused us to lose in Vietnam.
Depends on how you define winning. Vietnam generated lots of money for the military industrial complex while offing about 55000 mostly poor and minorities. That had to feel like a win to some ppl.
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Laurence Holmes with some really solid Ryan Pace rants today. It was great.
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Glad to see you back Tempo things were getting to positive around here
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I'm currently watching the Jim Rome Show on CBS Sports Network while enjoying my steak nachos. It is Smackoff time. The stuff I could have done with this on the HQOG, Illini Clones....
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So you were the Jim Rome parody?
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So you were the Jim Rome parody?
Yes. And, yes, I emailed you as the Jim Rome parody. And Bartman. This was all told in the closing hours of HQOG. Where you been?
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Sometimes I do other things.
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Yes. And, yes, I emailed you as the Jim Rome parody. And Bartman. This was all told in the closing hours of HQOG. Where you been?
His head has been stuck up his ass for a while now
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His head has been stuck up his ass for a while now
He's way Behind The Curve.
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I don’t remember what I was doing in the final hours of HQOG, but I also missed the mult reveal.
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I'm currently watching the Jim Rome Show on CBS Sports Network while enjoying my steak nachos. It is Smackoff time. The stuff I could have done with this on the HQOG, Illini Clones....
Used to listen to Rome when I lived in Texas 20 years ago. Loved Smack Off day. It was awesome.
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Used to listen to Rome when I lived in Texas 20 years ago. Loved Smack Off day. It was awesome.
Did you see that Mack put his house here up for sale?
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Did you see that Mack put his house here up for sale?
I did not. Very risky move.
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🤣
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its a sellers market for pretty much any real estate or cars right now
i'm selling my car for just about what I bought it for 5 years ago... crazy shit
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I just got a notification from my Zillow app that the value of my home went up 37k in the last 30 days.
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Pro tip: Don't Tell your local assessor.
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my property taxes can only increase 3% max in any given year
which is nice after living in Chicago where they would regularly go up 15-30%
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Yes, it is a seller's market, but IF you are planning to stay in the area, you still need some place to live when you sell and will be buying at the top of the market. Unless Mack does not think he will be around long....
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He probably won’t be. I mean how long is he gonna be here? Maybe 5 more years? 10 on the very outside?
Get max value now on what you own, and rent a place on a yearly basis. Especially if you know you’re not gonna want to live there forever.
You think he is going to rent a studio apartment?
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You think he is going to rent a studio apartment?
probably in Uptown
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Actually, I think he’s going to find a nice federally subsidized housing project apartment to crash in.
God damn. You really need to stop swallowing Tempo’s cum. It’s making you stupid.
Stop changing the subject. Mack move was risky and now he is out of here. Go Bears.
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probably in Uptown
I was thinking Englewood.
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Anyone find it strange that Khalil Mack is barely talked about anymore?
Not here, in the local media.
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Anyone find it strange that Khalil Mack is barely talked about anymore?
Not here, in the local media.
Because they don't want to admit they were wrong on heaping praise on the trade or admit you were AOTC.
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Because they don't want to admit they were wrong on heaping praise on the trade or admit you were AOTC.
What’s our playoff record since acquiring Mack? Anyone remember?
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Tempo won this one.
Be interested in a Tempo versus Spark on Eddie Van Halen versus whatever guitarist Spark would pick.
Eddie Van Halen fucking sucks. I'm not just trying to start shit either - the dude made shitty music.
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Anyone find it strange that Khalil Mack is barely talked about anymore?
Not here, in the local media.
Ironically, multiple Bears guys on Twitter were gushing about Mack destroying the Dolphins in their joint practice today.
https://twitter.com/NicholasMoreano/status/1425526410416885769?s=20
This one was posted at almost exactly the same time you made this post.
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Eddie Van Halen fucking sucks. I'm not just trying to start shit either - the dude made shitty music.
Tempo34? We need a response!
The Tempo versus Spark thread may be brought to life after all!
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Eddie Van Halen fucking sucks. I'm not just trying to start shit either - the dude made shitty music.
How the hell did I miss this? Welp, I can pretty much conclude that your opinion on any kind of guitar music is worthless.
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God damn. And here I thought my Zeppelin take was controversial.
I guess Spark will be the recipient of the Spark Mandrill HQ2 Inaugural Controversial Post of the Year Award. Here I thought I had chance with my spicy Simone Biles take.
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While we are at it, Spark, you HAVE to use your "hair shot" as your avatar.
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Tempo has to be miffed about this!
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9881353/Minorities-drive-population-growth-number-white-people-declines-time.html
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Eddie Van Halen fucking sucks. I'm not just trying to start shit either - the dude made shitty music.
Much of my life has been spent around music, the music business, live music, the live music business and musicians.
It became apparent to me, at some point, that waaaaaaaay too many people obsess about technical proficiency ("chops") over musicality.
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Much of my life has been spent around music, the music business, live music, the live music business and musicians.
It became apparent to me, at some point, that waaaaaaaay too many people obsess about technical proficiency ("chops") over musicality.
I'd say post a picture of your head of hair, but you already post your interview videos on The YouTube.
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As a songwriter, EVH wasn’t overly exceptional. But as an innovator and musician, EVH is probably unsurpassed in the the rock genre.
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I'd say post a picture of your head of hair, but you already post your interview videos on The YouTube.
Ask Rob if he still has that video of him with wet head from like 8 years ago.
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God damn. And here I thought my Zeppelin take was controversial.
What was your LZ take?
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Ironically, multiple Bears guys on Twitter were gushing about Mack destroying the Dolphins in their joint practice today.
https://twitter.com/NicholasMoreano/status/1425526410416885769?s=20
This one was posted at almost exactly the same time you made this post.
Sweet, he’s dominating in scrimmage practices. Good to know.
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I’ve just never been a fan.
There are only three acceptable answers to the question “which band is the greatest Rock and Roll band of all-time?”
They are The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, or Led Zeppelin.
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Discuss
Let’s
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I never understood Van Halen either. Hate their music.
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The Stones continue to benefit from 55 years of being Beatle-adjacent.
For people who like the blues, and are easily impressed by technical proficiency, the Stones are competent with three minute combinations of chords in a 4/4 time signature.
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Along with the stones I fucking hate Bruce Springsteen
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Will you guys put your bad musical takes in the Spicy Take thread? Stop fucking up the Mack trade sucks thread.
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As a songwriter, EVH wasn’t overly exceptional.
Wrong. Good Lord.
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Will you guys put your bad musical takes in the Spicy Take thread? Stop fucking up the Mack trade sucks thread.
Shut your face.
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Along with the stones I fucking hate Bruce Springsteen
Another three chord 4/4 specialist. Boring music for boring people.
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The Stones continue to benefit from 55 years of being Beatle-adjacent.
For people who like the blues, and are easily impressed by technical proficiency, the Stones are competent with three minute combinations of chords in a 4/4 time signature.
Or maybe it’s just fun music.
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Along with the stones I fucking hate Bruce Springsteen
I appreciate his place in music, but I never really “got” Springsteen either. I like some of his songs, but I wouldn’t dream of getting lost into Springsteen for hours on end. Same with guys like Bowie and Prince. I understand their significance, just not for me.
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Same with guys like Bowie and Prince. I understand their significance, just not for me.
Who wants innovation and daring when we can just listen to the same three chords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
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Who wants innovation and daring when we can just listen to the same three chords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
Except when the "innovation and daring" is self- indulgent garbage?
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Who wants innovation and daring when we can just listen to the same three chords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
That’s pretty much what rock and roll is. E, A, and D. Same with the blues.
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Who wants innovation and daring when we can just listen to the same three chords over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and
Again, what are your 3 favorite bands?
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Again, what are your 3 favorite bands?
I'll guess - Pavement, Modest Mouse, and The Stone Roses.
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I'll guess - Pavement, Modest Mouse, and The Stone Roses.
My guesses would be….
Alt-J
Modest Mouse
Uncle Tupelo
With Bon Iver coming in a close fourth
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I'm not boxing myself in to your preposterous paradigm.
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But I've never heard anything by Modest Mouse that wasn't both boring and self-important.
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No worries. I couldn’t name my 3 or 4 favorite artists or groups. There’s just so many to choose from and the scope ranges so far for me. Music is so subjective and I say whatever moves you, listen to it, no matter what it is. A lot of what I listen to differs and varies based on what kinda mood I’m in as well.
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Admittedly, all I did was google popular indie rock bands and picked a few. I know nothing of those bands, but I think I did listen to some of that Pavement record that is so well thought of, and it murdered my soul it was so dreadful.
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Yes. I always assumed it was a test of some sort.
A lot of people seemed to agree that the emperor's new clothes were pretty fantastic.
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But I've never heard anything by Modest Mouse that wasn't both boring and self-important.
That sounds right down your alley, actually.
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I'm not boxing myself in to your preposterous paradigm.
Ok, I’ll try again. “What are some of your favorite bands?”
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That sounds right down your alley, actually.
This post was devastating.
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Ok, I’ll try again. “What are some of your favorite bands?”
Did that feel like a less preposterous paradigm to you?
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Did that feel like a less preposterous paradigm to you?
Well, you have been telling us that you do not like any of the bands listed in this thread to date.
You a fan of the Fine Young Cannibals?
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I thought She Drives Me Crazy was kind of infectious, like herpes.
Also, trying to figure out how Roland Gift's mouth worked, as the two nerds jumped around in the background, proved hard to look away from. Like a road accident.
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I thought She Drives Me Crazy was kind of infectious, like herpes.
Also, trying to figure out how Roland Gift's mouth worked, as the two nerds jumped around in the background, proved hard to look away from. Like a road accident.
You a big fan of Nickelback?
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I got a promo copy of their American debut in a big batch of other promo CDs.
I thought it was good enough to play (at the bar) between sets of similar bands.
That was before they became the butt of jokes.
When I saw the Photograph video, I understood why they became the butt of jokes.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc4GRxXPOsQ
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And then Shinedown proudly took the baton from Nickelback although they aren’t *quite* as pop radio friendly or Canadian
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Why so coy about what bands you like? I’ve never seen anyone afraid to tell someone else what they like to listen to.
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Why so coy about what bands you like? I’ve never seen anyone afraid to tell someone else what they like to listen to.
Because he tries to be an enigma wrapped in a riddle?
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Why so coy about what bands you like? I’ve never seen anyone afraid to tell someone else what they like to listen to.
Liking something opens one up to criticism.
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Why so coy about what bands you like? I’ve never seen anyone afraid to tell someone else what they like to listen to.
I never said that you dolt.
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I never said that you dolt.
Actions speak louder than words.
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Because he tries to be an enigma wrapped in a riddle?
I’d say he’s more of an enema wrapped in a spittle.
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Actions speak louder than words.
And that's why I conveyed my answer in the form of interpretive dance.
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I’d say he’s more of an enema wrapped in a spittle.
hahaha good one
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My guesses would be….
Alt-J
Modest Mouse
Uncle Tupelo
With Bon Iver coming in a close fourth
I bet rob hates all these bands except maybe UT.
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You a big fan of Nickelback?
I’m a Nickelback defender. Not a fan, mind you - I don’t like their music at all - but I think it’s silly that they take the heat for that entire era of post-Nirvana radio “grunge”. They’re no worse than 100 other bands from that era, just more popular.
And to their credit any time I’ve ever seen them address their status as “stand in to make a joke about bad music”, they say basically hey man, I get to travel the world and make a living playing music with my friends, who gives a fuck if other people hate us?
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There are only three acceptable answers to the question “which band is the greatest Rock and Roll band of all-time?”
They are The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, or Led Zeppelin.
This is a pretty common take from people who have never dug too deep into music.
I do like Zeppelin though. The Beatles had their moments. I find the Stones boring.
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This is a pretty common take from people who have never dug too deep into music.
I do like Zeppelin though. The Beatles had their moments. I find the Stones boring.
I’ve listened to many hours of rock (many forms), classical, blues, bluegrass, country, jazz, opera. Even dabbled in playing guitar. I’m sure there are people much more versed than I am, but saying “I’ve not dug deep into music” isn’t really accurate. Those are the three greatest rock and roll bands. Period.
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You can't say that about something that's that subjective. That's dickish.
Sorry...
It's all a matter of opinion and what each person prefers. I think you know that.
Do you know who you’re talking to?
Apparently not….
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I do. I don't think Tempo is stupid. He's trying to Bernstein it by telling people that their opinions are wrong.
I understand what he's trying to do. It's pretty easy to diagnose, actually.
There's no available metric that can prove, one way or the other, who the best 3 rock bands are. It's all subjective. He knows that. Again, he's not stupid.
I don’t think he is either, but I’m trying stop the next 20 pages of him defending an indefensible position. Basically trying to save you and the board from having to deal with all that 😂
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Lol. Well, Tempo knows his role. If people choose to engage further, that's on them.
You're seeing the kinder, gentler Jobu. The one with patience.
I fucking hate this jobu
suck a cock
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You can't say that about something that's that subjective. That's dickish.
Sorry...
It's all a matter of opinion and what each person prefers. I think you know that.
Don’t argue with me, argue with Google. Google the phrase “greatest rock bands of all-time.” Those three pop up at the top. It’s not a coincidence. Sure, “favorite” rock bands is very subjective. But consensus wise, they are easily the runaway top 3.
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Obviously, I’m being a little hyperbolic; but it’s also mostly true.
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I fucking hate this jobu
suck a cock
I Like this Jobu.
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I do. I don't think Tempo is stupid. He's trying to Bernstein it by telling people that their opinions are wrong.
I understand what he's trying to do. It's pretty easy to diagnose, actually.
There's no available metric that can prove, one way or the other, who the best 3 rock bands are. It's all subjective. He knows that. Again, he's not stupid.
Let me argue it this way. The Beatles (with some competition from the Stones) dominated the 60s. Led Zeppelin dominated the 70s. The 60s and 70s were clearly the heyday of Rock and Roll (even though in 2021 the 90s is probably my current favorite decade). The Stones were enormous that entire period, and have had unequaled staying power. Therefore; “The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, and The Rolling Stones are the three greatest rock bands of all-time” isn’t that controversial.
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When I did it, it was Zeppelin, Stones, AC/DC, Beatles. If I do it again tomorrow, it might be different.
So, no, consensus wise it isn’t objective at all.
Do it every day for a year. I’ll bet those three never leave the grouping. 50
Years later
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When I did it, it was Zeppelin, Stones, AC/DC, Beatles. If I do it again tomorrow, it might be different.
So, no, consensus wise it isn’t objective at all.
AC/DC snuck into the team picture. As much as I love AC/DC do you really think they’re better than the Beatles? Very few people would say that.
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They probably won’t.
I think it can be argued that AC/DC could be in the top 3.
I love them; but no. Certainly not consensus. From about ‘84-‘95 I was a HUGE Van Halen fan. My “favorite band.” But even then I don’t think I’d have said they were better than the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. And certainly I think that notion is preposterous today.
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I know exactly what Google brought up because I did it two minutes before I brought it up. It brings up the name of 4 bands. The Beatles being the 4th. AC/DC is/was awesome, but almost no one thinks they’re bigger than the Beatles.
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The Stones were relevant in the 90's?
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Side note: I know this isn’t highly scientific research, but I’m a member of a Beatles fan page on Facebook, and it’s easily the busiest Facebook page I’ve ever seen.
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The Stones were relevant in the 90's?
Still had enormously successful tours.
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Selling out NFL stadiums multiple times each more than 55 years later. I’d say that’s relevant enough.
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Still had enormously successful tours.
Refresh my memory, did they have some kind of rebirth, or tour activity following a hiatus? I do seem to remember something like that.
Were they kicking out new releases back then or just riding the ol' catalog?
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Gotcha. I was getting into heavy music in the 90's so anything the Stones did would have been way off my radar.
That might have been the time when people realized how old they were getting, and could still bring it. Which is commendable.
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Refresh my memory, did they have some kind of rebirth, or tour activity following a hiatus? I do seem to remember something like that.
Were they kicking out new releases back then or just riding the ol' catalog?
Bridges to Babylon and Voodoo Lounge, I believe. Steel Wheels maybe.
I will say that I’ve never enjoyed a concert more than the Stones at Soldier Field in 1999. 30 years after “their prime.”
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I saw them on my birthday again at Soldier Field a couple years ago. They’ve slipped a bit (who wouldn’t at 75-80 years old), but still a damn good time.
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I was there. The weather sucked, lol.
You must have went a different night, I don’t recall bad weather. They had 2-3 shows that week I think. 2 for sure.
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Bassist retired awhile ago, right? And Watts is hurt.
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I was there. The weather sucked, lol.
My gf at the time bought the tickets, paid for the hotel room (think that was around my birthday too), and I got laid. It was a great night. Come to think of it, that was probably ‘98. I
moved out state later in ‘98 partly to get away from her…but the sex was decent.
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Had to be ‘98. I was in San Antonio in ‘99.
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Next thing you know, Jobu and Tempo will be road tripping to Illini basketball games and sharing hotel rooms and Bloomin' Onions. Tempo says "Sayonara, JeffFrank!"
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Next thing you know, Jobu and Tempo will be road tripping to Illini basketball games and sharing hotel rooms and Bloomin' Onions. Tempo says "Sayonara, JeffFrank!"
Never say never.
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I would sit down and have a beer with Tempo. And anyone else on here.
Now, spending the night in a hotel? Yeah, probably not…
Craft beer?
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I don't think Jobu understands what "craft beer" means.
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Most craft breweries make the kind of beer you like, but it’s probably not worth paying extra.
https://www.beeradvocate.com/beer/top-styles/38/
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Don’t argue with me, argue with Google. Google the phrase “greatest rock bands of all-time.” Those three pop up at the top. It’s not a coincidence. Sure, “favorite” rock bands is very subjective. But consensus wise, they are easily the runaway top 3.
LOL. Hard evidence here.
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I love them; but no. Certainly not consensus. From about ‘84-‘95 I was a HUGE Van Halen fan. My “favorite band.” But even then I don’t think I’d have said they were better than the Beatles or Led Zeppelin. And certainly I think that notion is preposterous today.
What does it mean for one band to be 'better than' another?
You're arguing about popularity, which is certainly not the same thing.
I personally find the Rolling Stones mostly very boring, the Beatles hit-and-miss (I'm more into their AOR stuff after they stopped touring and started experimenting in the studio). Can't stand AC/DC.
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I’ll allow for that.
My idea of drinking beer is popping a tab or twisting off a cap and drinking a cheapish cold beer.
Do I drink old Milwaukee or Milwaukee’s best or keystone? No. And I don’t drink beers that have a high alcohol content or beers that you practically have to
chew to get down.
Im a simple guy when it comes to drinking beers. I’ll admit that, and I won’t apologize for it.
Well if you Google 'best beers ever', no cheap beers come up. Sorry bud.
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Well if you Google 'best beers ever', no cheap beers come up. Sorry bud.
Probably a reason for that!
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What does it mean for one band to be 'better than' another?
You're arguing about popularity, which is certainly not the same thing.
I personally find the Rolling Stones mostly very boring, the Beatles hit-and-miss (I'm more into their AOR stuff after they stopped touring and started experimenting in the studio). Can't stand AC/DC.
I’m talking about consensus opinion. If someone’s favorite band is Men Without hats, I won’t tell them their choice sucks. It belongs to them. But there is such thing as consensus opinion.
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I’m talking about consensus opinion. If someone’s favorite band is Men Without hats, I won’t tell them their choice sucks. It belongs to them. But there is such thing as consensus opinion.
Does it mean anything?
It says more to me about exposure than quality.
If all we're talking about is 'consensus opinion', i.e. popularity, then sure - those are probably the three 'greatest' rock bands. That seems like a silly thing to even discuss though.
Of course if we're just talking about popularity, we have to list Elton John ahead of Zeppelin and Pink Floyd/Queen/The Eagles ahead of the Rolling Stones. Also Drake is the greatest musician of all time.
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Glad to have you back, Spark. Need Alum to come back. Best poster who backs his arguments up with link citations. Probably could settle this Best 3 Bands stuff.
Plus, where has Cutard been?
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Whomever has that Bat Signal photoshop should post it for Alum....
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He’s probably face deep in pussy.
Alum or Custard?
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Custard
Would've have been better if you said Alum....
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Would've have been better if you said Alum....
I thought we already agreed that the proper construction for this clause is "would've have have up in around been better."
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I thought we already agreed that the proper construction for this clause is "would've have have up in around been better."
So tru true.
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He’s probably face deep in pussy.
accurate
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But probably not pubes.
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Glad to have you back, Spark. Need Alum to come back. Best poster who backs his arguments up with link citations. Probably could settle this Best 3 Bands stuff.
Plus, where has Cutard been?
My favorite example was Mitch Trubisky after 5-6 games vs Mahomes stats.
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Ryan Pace at it again. Trades up to draft an injured player that’s supposed to be an important building block. I fucking hate that schmuck.
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Discuss
It appears I may have been AOTC
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It appears I may have been AOTC
according to Jobu, yes
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according to Jobu, yes
We should ask him.
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The answer is yes. Tempo was AOTC on the Mack trade.
Good to know, thanks!
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I don't think the Mack trade looks bad in retrospect. Certainly the Bears would've been an awful lot worse without him the last couple years. It's miles down the list of the Bears' problems.
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I don't think the Mack trade looks bad in retrospect. Certainly the Bears would've been an awful lot worse without him the last couple years. It's miles down the list of the Bears' problems.
Oh boy. Defense sucks. Too much money tied up. The general populace would have caught onto Pace's and Nagy's incompetence far sooner. Trade has helped delay the necessary housecleaning.
I was AOTC! Tell me I'm a genius, Spark! Jobu, start making threads about me being AOTC on Nagy!!!!!
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Also while the defense was awful Sunday, I'm not throwing in the towel on them for the season by any means. Similarly, I'm not putting too much stock in the offensive line looking better than expected. My guess is the Bears will still have a relatively highly ranked defense this season.
Obviously they didn't know they would end up with someone like Fields at the time, but letting Fuller walk to grab a guy like Dalton looks like a particularly painful move at the moment.
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Defense has not looked good since Mack Year 1.
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You haven't told us about it enough yet.
You mean I have to talk about it for 3 years before you make threads about my genius?
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I don't think the Mack trade looks bad in retrospect. Certainly the Bears would've been an awful lot worse without him the last couple years. It's miles down the list of the Bears' problems.
While admiring the small picture to his left, Spark just got trucked by the big picture to his right.
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You mean I have to talk about it for 3 years before you make threads about my genius?
So are we implying that I’m the only one that’s talked about the Mack trade?
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So are we implying that I’m the only one that’s talked about the Mack trade?
Not at all.
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You mean I have to talk about it for 3 years before you make threads about my genius?
Start your own damn threads about your genius, genius.
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Start your own damn threads about your genius, genius.
Was actually hoping someone else would show appreciation for my genius on Matt Nagy.
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Was actually hoping someone else would show appreciation for my genius on Matt Nagy.
How AOTC were you? I was pointing out red flags as early the Green Bay collapse. Were you earlier than me? I honestly don’t recall when I was totally out on Nagy. But it was pretty early.
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How AOTC were you? I was pointing out red flags as early the Green Bay collapse. Were you earlier than me? I honestly don’t recall when I was totally out on Nagy. But it was pretty early.
When he was born.
Actually, when he was hired. Knew he had been demoted in KC.
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Yeah, I wasn’t that early.
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I wasn’t impressed by Nagy’s offense outside of the Tampa game where receivers were running free everywhere. It was year one and I was willing to give him a pass. Then the 2019 opener happened. The Bears lost 10-3 to the Packers, a game in which Nagy didn’t even attempt to run the ball and had Mitch chucking the ball damn near 50 times. That’s when I realized Nagy was the biggest fraud in the NFL.
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They traded up to draft a shitty qb out of UNC with 1 year of decent ball under his belt.
This aint rocket surgery, but he had all the intangibles. Lol.
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Yep. And there were people (Royko, Miniditka) that fucking shouted me down when I bitched about them trading up to get Mitch. I said, before he even took 1 snap, that what they did was fucking stupid.
I guess I was AOTC on that.
The dumb bitch owner of the bears wanted to draft the good ol' polish boy rather than the wild child out of texas because she's a stupid fucking racist cunt
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Yep. And there were people (Royko, Miniditka) that fucking shouted me down when I bitched about them trading up to get Mitch. I said, before he even took 1 snap, that what they did was fucking stupid.
I guess I was AOTC on that.
I dont know who was AOTC, but nobody drafts a UNC qb in rhe early rounds. Nobody.
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I guess I was AOTC on that.
Nice.
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Ryan Pace did. He traded draft picks to move up 1 spot, to ensure SF didn't take him.
IT HAPPENED, MN. FUCK!
If I recall properly, Spark defended that trade too.
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Ryan Pace did. He traded draft picks to move up 1 spot, to ensure SF didn't take him.
IT HAPPENED, MN. FUCK!
We may have been in the same spot on the curve.
After that mindfuck, Pace got a little gun shy and didnt want to make the same mistake again. So he went with somebody with an NFL track record instead of blowing another 1st round pick.
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I wasn’t impressed by Nagy’s offense outside of the Tampa game where receivers were running free everywhere. It was year one and I was willing to give him a pass. Then the 2019 opener happened. The Bears lost 10-3 to the Packers, a game in which Nagy didn’t even attempt to run the ball and had Mitch chucking the ball damn near 50 times. That’s when I realized Nagy was the biggest fraud in the NFL.
Tampa literally had to start 4 rookies at DB that game because of injuries.
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I member that game. During that game, I, and others I was with, was like "why isn't Mitch running? Why is he standing in the pocket?"
Right then, I knew that the season was doomed.
During the "magical" 12-4 season, Mitch took off and ran and made plays. For the life of me, I don't know why they tried to take that part of his game away. I mean, don't get me wrong, he sucks, but they took away the part of the game he could actually do something with. And while they were at it, he had bad protection and receivers that couldn't get open.
This fucking team is horseshit. lol
They did it because of Nagy’s massive ego.
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Yep. And there were people (Royko, Miniditka) that fucking shouted me down when I bitched about them trading up to get Mitch. I said, before he even took 1 snap, that what they did was fucking stupid.
I guess I was AOTC on that.
I can’t claim to be AOTC on the Trubisky pick because I hadn’t watched college football in years. I barely knew who DeShaun Watson was, let alone Patrick Mahomes. No lie.
What I HATED was giving up all that to move up one spot, and then hearing the Niners weren’t likely to take Trubisky anyway.
I knew nothing about anyone as prospects that year, other than a couple articles I’d read.
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Mack foot surgery and he is done for the year. Somewhere Jobu is weeping because TEMPO WAS AOTC ON THE MACK TRADE!
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Great player, but he wasn’t worth two 1sts and multiple free-agents.
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Mack doesn’t miss a game with the Raiders.
He comes to Chicago and gets hurt.
Only the Bears. Only the fucking Bears.
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He was younger then, for starters.
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Tempo digs in deep on defending the refs in the Steelers game because he wants Pace gone but also wishes Pace had more draft picks to fuck up. Psychosis.
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It’s all about bites at the apple. I don’t assume Pace or any GM for that matter will get the picks right or wrong. Because all of them get picks right and wrong. But bites at the apple are important. And Pace should be acquiring more bites, not seeking less bites. Constantly trading away assets; one of the reasons I hate him.
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IMO the better GMs are usually trading down, not up (as Pace likes to do).
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The Bears org sucks. From the top down. You’re the fool for expecting better.
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Draft picks are like gold (especially high ones), and Pace falls in love with his picks and trades away valuable assets to move up to get them. See: Trubisky, Mitch. Miller, Anthony. Floyd, Leonard. I did like the Fields draft day trade, though.
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Good so we agree
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It’s all about bites at the apple. I don’t assume Pace or any GM for that matter will get the picks right or wrong. Because all of them get picks right and wrong. But bites at the apple are important. And Pace should be acquiring more bites, not seeking less bites. Constantly trading away assets; one of the reasons I hate him.
I wouldn't understand this when I was sober.
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The idea that the more chances you have, the more likely you are to draft good players is complicated?
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One of the 3rd rounders that were traded for Trubisky turned into Fred Warner. He was All-Pro last year.
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Good so we agree
On your strawman, no. Sure Ryan Pace isn’t a particularly good drafter, but he doesn’t miss on all of his picks. If he’s not a particularly strong drafter, I’d rather he have more picks, not less.
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And again, giving up 2 1sts and 141 million dollars for 0 playoff wins is a failed trade.
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In 2019 the Bears forfeited a pick that could have landed them Montez Sweat.
In 2020 the Bears forfeited a 1st round pick that could have landed them Justin Jefferson.
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There was another forfeited pick that could have gotten them DK Metcalf, Terry McLaurin, or Diontae Johnson. All drafted shortly after that slot.
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But who needs draft picks when you’ve got an aging/injured LB and Anthony Miller!
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Which gets back the thesis that it’s foolish to give away so much capital when you don’t know what you’ve got in your HC/QB.
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If you had KNOWN that Nagy and Trubisky were of Super Bowl caliber, that trade would have made all the sense in the world. That simply wasn’t the case.
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Not to mention maybe one or two of those picks might have netted you a decent starter or two on your Oline.
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Players drafted after the 4th round slot the Bears gave away to move up for Floyd include: Dak Prescott, Tyreek Hill, and Matthew Judon (not to mention some starting caliber interior linemen). I wonder if any of those guys could have helped the Bears. Of course, there’s no guarantee the Bears pick any of these players, but the moral of the story is clear. More picks is better than less picks. Particularly when the drafter has a spotty record (which they all pretty much do). Even Belichick misses on too many high picks, but he knows the value of draft assets.
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Belichick doesn’t fall in love with players/talent. He’s drafts for value and to build teams.
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https://youtu.be/LG369AbsWfI
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https://youtu.be/LG369AbsWfI
Nice work, Rees. Lol.
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I’m not taking to myself if you read it then respond.
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The idea that the more chances you have, the more likely you are to draft good players is complicated?
That certainly is succinct and to the point
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And, ironically, too complicated for Tempo.
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And, ironically, too complicated for Tempo.
This is completely nonsensical. This is like shitting your pants, and being proud of yourself.
And Robb says he doesn’t follow me around…
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This is completely nonsensical. This is like shitting your pants, and being proud of yourself.
And Robb says he doesn’t follow me around…
Are they short pants? Long pants?
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You've already confused him again.
Single-issue subject/verb sentences are advised. Objects can be distracting.
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Robb basically shit his pants at the Thanksgiving dinner, and acts like he did something noteworthy.
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Hub Arkush and Danny Parkins recently with the garbage take that “the Bears clearly won the Mack trade.” Guess I should have been a sports writer after all, because apparently anyone can do it.
I actually for the most part like both, but what a shitty take. Hub has been particularly bad lately.
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Resident HQ irony noted.
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This is what I’ve been saying for a long time…
https://www.acmepackingcompany.com/platform/amp/2021/12/10/22828178/stat-of-the-week-packers-bears-gm-ryan-pace-makes-it-rain-with-draft-trades
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It would be so funny if the Bears didn’t fire anyone.
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It would be so funny if the Bears didn’t fire anyone.
Agreed. That would be funny. Not as funny as orange chicken though. But I'm glad it brought Tempo, QAnon97, and Tempo together.
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Montez Sweat forces a fumble with WFTs season on the line. We could have had him, Justin Jefferson, and an extra 100+ million dollars. Khalil Mack trade was a bust.
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I thought the latter half of this guys tweet was very interesting.
(https://i.postimg.cc/y6DTtSzr/4-BBADF66-9-C4-D-43-B8-AFE9-CFAE80-DAAB49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yjwgm001)
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I thought the latter half of this guys tweet was very interesting.
(https://i.postimg.cc/y6DTtSzr/4-BBADF66-9-C4-D-43-B8-AFE9-CFAE80-DAAB49.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Yjwgm001)
That was a topic of discussion at the time of the trade.
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That was a topic of discussion at the time of the trade.
(https://i.postimg.cc/brVm40sg/278-BF0-AD-7055-4866-9-C0-F-291269-A3-F54-D.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/brVm40sg/278-BF0-AD-7055-4866-9-C0-F-291269-A3-F54-D.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
Yes, that there was no point to the trade if the Bear didn't have a QB. It was actually a point you had raised.
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Mitch actually made the Pro Bowl in 2018 before Nagy turned him into a statue behind a terrible o line.
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Mitch actually made the Pro Bowl in 2018 before Nagy turned him into a statue behind a terrible o line.
After how many other QBs turned down the Pro Bowl offer?
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Ok. You had me confused with that statement.
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Brees turned it down. Rodgers was hurt. Goff made the Super Bowl.
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Brees turned it down. Rodgers was hurt. Goff made the Super Bowl.
Yeah not too bad a list to be third option on.
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Mitch actually made the Pro Bowl in 2018 before Nagy turned him into a statue behind a terrible o line.
Lulz
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Yeah not too bad a list to be third option on.
Lulz
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Lulz
Nobody is saying he’s some great QB, dumbass.
BUT you cannot take that one year off his resume and discount it. He earned the recognition that season despite Nagy’s ineptitude.
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Nobody is saying he’s some great QB, dumbass.
BUT you cannot take that one year off his resume and discount it. He earned the recognition that season despite Nagy’s ineptitude.
In actuality, he was the 4th choice. Secondly, it’s not hard to be “decent enough” when you’re constantly given short fields by your defense, and you’re not asked to do a lot.
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And trying to argue that Mitch was “pretty good because he made a Pro Bowl” is a bad road to turn on to. Mitch was never good. Except a against a Tampa secondary starting 4 rookies one month into the season.
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Yes, Mitch’s beat season was 2018 (and I actually agree that Nagy made him worse), but Mitch was never the answer at QB.
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Yes, Mitch’s beat season was 2018 (and I actually agree that Nagy made him worse), but Mitch was never the answer at QB.
Nobody is saying he is or was. Nice straw man
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In actuality, he was the 4th choice. Secondly, it’s not hard to be “decent enough” when you’re constantly given short fields by your defense, and you’re not asked to do a lot.
There’s a lot of “game-managers” for QBs in the NFL that are exactly this that do quite well for themselves and their teams. Go check out Tennessee, 49’ers, etc…
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Nobody is saying he is or was. Nice straw man
Custard seemed to imply he was more than adequate until Nagy ruined him.
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Nobody is saying he is or was. Nice straw man
And you were the one stroking him for being 3rd behind Brees and Rodgers.
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Custard seemed to imply he was more than adequate until Nagy ruined him.
I think he was saying he was adequate. Which he was. Hell the two teams I listed above went to the playoffs and thrived under game managers as QBs
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There’s a lot of “game-managers” for QBs in the NFL that are exactly this that do quite well for themselves and their teams. Go check out Tennessee, 49’ers, etc…
Actual “game managers” know how to read defenses and can deliver an accurate pass when it matters. Mitch could do neither of these. Garoppolo and Tannehill are without question better than Mitch.
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I think he was saying he was adequate. Which he was. Hell the two teams I listed above went to the playoffs and thrived under game managers as QBs
He was adequate enough to put up 15 points in the playoffs, and to take advantage of short fields given to him by a single season historically good defense. That’s about it.
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Like the meme Robb listed above, you’re not making much sense. You contradicted yourself numerous times and are making arguments with yourself. Nobody is saying he’s better than them or a great QB. You’re making straw men. It’s been proven that game managers can get the job done. If we make that FG instead of the double-donk, he might’ve been good enough to win a Super Bowl. Does that mean he’s a great QB or anything, no. So what’re you trying to argue about by us saying Trubisky had a really good year in 2018?
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And you were the one stroking him for being 3rd behind Brees and Rodgers.
We all know Custard is trying to stir the pot since MiniDitka and Royko aren't here to defend the garbage trade. Don't stoop to JizzJerkoff's level.
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Like the meme Robb listed above, you’re not making much sense. You contradicted yourself numerous times and are making arguments with yourself. Nobody is saying he’s better than them or a great QB. You’re making straw men. It’s been proven that game managers can get the job done. If we make that FG instead of the double-donk, he might’ve been good enough to win a Super Bowl. Does that mean he’s a great QB or anything, no. So what’re you trying to argue about by us saying Trubisky had a really good year in 2018?
How did I contradict myself?
George McCaskey even came out and said they got the quarterback position wrong…Trubisky wasn’t good enough, plain and simple.
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“Game managers” win Super Bowls when they have historically good defenses. 85 Bears, 86 Giants, and 00 Ravens are about all that come to mind. You don’t trade up to #2 overall to get a low-end “game manager.”
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2002 Bucs with Brad fuckin Johnson at QB.
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“Game managers” win Super Bowls when they have historically good defenses. 85 Bears, 86 Giants, and 00 Ravens are about all that come to mind. You don’t trade up to #2 overall to get a low-end “game manager.”
Nobody is arguing that… 🤔
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Yeah, in the Pantheon of Dumb HQ/HQ2 Arguments, this one is up there. Maybe Custard can add that to his sig since he started it.
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In jest, surely.
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Nobody is arguing that… 🤔
I will. The Bears did. Lol.
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Still waiting to hear where I’ve contradicted myself.
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Hey PAMan, remember that time Mitch was pretty much on par with Mahomes?
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Still waiting to hear where I’ve contradicted myself.
So you stated he wasn’t good that year, then you stated he was. We all know he wasn’t the answer long term, but he was good enough that year (admitted because of a great defense as well) at being a game manager to be pretty much a FG away from possibly winning a SB.
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So you stated he wasn’t good that year, then you stated he was. We all know he wasn’t the answer long term, but he was good enough that year (admitted because of a great defense as well) at being a game manager to be pretty much a FG away from possibly winning a SB.
I said he was “good” that year? Where? Can you quote me? He was mediocre that year. He benefited from short fields and a historically good defense. Like 15-20% of his production came in one game.
The point is (and always was) that we didn’t know what we had a QB and HC, thus the Mack trade was “risky.” The Trubisky pick and the Mack trade set the franchise back 5 years. And we got one good year out of it.
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Hey PAMan, remember that time Mitch was pretty much on par with Mahomes?
I remember the argument regarding whether Spark, et al. made the comparison.
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I remember the argument regarding whether Spark, et al. made the comparison.
Stats don’t lie though, amirite?
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Stats don’t lie though, amirite?
And he did go to The Pro Bowl!
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In 7 years, Ryan Pace has drafted two players selected to the Pro Bowl, and won 0 playoff games. And now he’s probably getting a promotion.
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In 7 years, Ryan Pace has drafted two players selected to the Pro Bowl, and won 0 playoff games. And now he’s probably getting a promotion.
Maybe he will be better even further upstairs.
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Maybe he will be better even further upstairs.
Maybe, but why should he get to fail up?
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Maybe, but why should he get to fail up?
George likes him ?
And then Pace gets to hire his own replacement.
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George likes him ?
And then Pace gets to hire his own replacement.
Then they should do as I’ve been saying they’re going to do and just adopt him.
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Mack traded for shit draft picks. Tempo can dance on MiniDitka's grave....
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https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33471001/sources-chicago-bears-set-trade-khalil-mack-los-angeles-chargers
It better be some damn good picks!
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Denver got a 2nd and 3rd for Von Miller. I’d hope it’s something comparable.
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A 2nd in 2023 and 6th round pick this year I believe. That’s it. I guess it’s huge cap relief, but man that’s a shitty haul for him.
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Schefter reporting this years’ 2nd and next years’ 6th. Meh
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He and Bosa will be nice together if he resembles prime Khalil Mack.
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Would have preferred 2 and 4 (both this year), but I’m glad Poles is thinking long-term.
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If the 2nd is in fact this year that will be nice having two second round picks. Pick up a lineman and WR in those spots and I’ll be good.
Edit- it is.
https://twitter.com/jacobinfante24/status/1502042182412226560?s=21
Edit again- it’s not according to ESPN
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/33471001/sources-chicago-bears-set-trade-khalil-mack-los-angeles-chargers
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The Chargers are taking on his entire contract. The light return can likely be attributed to Mack not being healthy and not being his usual dominant self since 2018.
Poles is getting ready to tear this thing down to the studs (or is it making wholesale changes?). Hopefully he doesn’t repeat the same mistakes the previous Ryan in charge did.
Eddie Jackson has to be the next to go.
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This is why. Wow 🤯
https://twitter.com/lauriehoresh/status/1502052503856160775?s=21
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This is why. Wow 🤯
https://twitter.com/lauriehoresh/status/1502052503856160775?s=21
Nice! Take their lumps this year and then next year make a few splashes. Still have to build through the draft though.
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The Chargers are taking on his entire contract. The light return can likely be attributed to Mack not being healthy and not being his usual dominant self since 2018.
Poles is getting ready to tear this thing down to the studs (or is it making wholesale changes?). Hopefully he doesn’t repeat the same mistakes the previous Ryan in charge did.
Eddie Jackson has to be the next to go.
Well played.
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This is why. Wow 🤯
https://twitter.com/lauriehoresh/status/1502052503856160775?s=21
That’s a fair chunk of coin.
The 2nd rounder is for this year. 6th is next. Really hope Olave slips to the Bears.
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Still waiting on that first Khalil Mack playoff win. Meanwhile, the Bears don’t have a QB or O-line. Maybe some draft picks would have been nice.
Still waiting!
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That’s a fair chunk of coin.
The 2nd rounder is for this year. 6th is next. Really hope Olave slips to the Bears.
AOTC on Olave
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Still waiting!
Patience
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Patience
Yep.
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Still waiting!
Still don't have a QB or an O Line...