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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: fucking on January 28, 2021, 12:39:00 AM
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https://youtu.be/ts_livtwTUU
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Should be a good test for both teams.
Sounds like Frederick might be out or limited. He is really solid player and one of few guys who guards.
They were out of sorts in their loss without him, but have had a week to practice with using others in his place.
We will not be able to stay in front of Toussaint who is quicker than anybody we have if he plays more, and the younger McCaffery, Murray, and Nunge are a problem if they go bigger as matchup issues.
I have watched them a lot this year.
They have a really versatile offense, score in bunches,deeper bench than us, can shoot quickly or run solid half court sets, and will present various matchup issues for us.
Weiskamp and Bohannon are a threat to go off for stretches. Bohannon will shoot crossing half court if he starts feeling it.
On the other hand- they are not that athletic oddly.
They cannot guard an empty chair, but do not seem to care much.
I do not think they can stay in front of Ayo in open or half court at all. I expect him to have a big game against their defense, especially without Frederick to rotate on him sometimes.
Garza will also get high 20s or more. Slow as shit, but relentless worker and great footwork and can pull Kofi out on floor at will or work him over in the post.
Kofi could get in foul trouble if not careful and could get frustration fouls if he doesn't realize Garza is going to get his no matter what.
If Kofi gets 2 early fouls we are in trouble. If he stays in game, we are in it. He could make a living on offensive glass in this one.
They play some zone and have issues rebounding in it.
If we are hitting threes at reasonable rate (like 35% or more and will need 8 or 9 of them), we make them work on offense, and get offensive rebounds we can win.
Fran and Connor McCaffery will bitch a lot about every call. I think it could get nasty, but we need to get pushed. We have to get tougher.
I think a game in mid 80s and too close to call.
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I don't like this match up at all. Figure we will be near double digit underdogs. -8 or -9 Iowa.
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Breal is the betting line expert. Lol.
My ignorant guess is Illini (-1).
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Bohannan coming off his worst career performance leading Iowa's worst 15 minutes of basketball in the last 2 years I feel will not bode well for us. I do agree their defense is pathetic, but Iowa leads the country in Pomeroy offensive efficiency. Fran won't let that carry over into tomorrows game.
https://kenpom.com/index.php?s=RankAdjOE (https://kenpom.com/index.php?s=RankAdjOE)
Ayo should without question be this teams best defensive player and unfortunately is not even close. He has been lit up on the defensive end multiple times this year. A kid with his length, quickness, and intelligence should be dominating the perimeter on the defensive end. I may have unpopular opinion that he's only going 75-80% on the defensive end, only to then turn it up on the offensive end of the floor. I know this because far too many times when we are behind and the game is coming down to the wire do then see him turn it up on the defensive end. Just wish he would do it for a full 40 minutes.
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I don’t really subscribe to the idea that playing a bad half of basketball means a team is going to come out and play better basketball in the next game. Guards missing tons of shots doesn’t have much to do with motivation. In my world they got exposed a little and maybe with a week+ to prepare we can exploit their weaknesses as well.
Also I don’t think Ayo is particularly quick or athletic. He’s smart, lengthy, crafty, and is great in transition. I do think he conserves energy at times and it feels like this entire team plays every game to try and win it at the end. Maybe because that’s what happened so often last year. 🤷🏻♂️
This team ranks pretty solid defensively although it may not pass the eye test at times. I really think and I’ve said it before that the new rule changes and officiating are starting to change the way the game is played. We were used to watching all these godawful rock fights for years and now we are seeing transition and scoring.
I’m more concerned about the offensive end where we stagnate for long periods. Teams have learned they can take away Ayo’s right hand and really limit him. Need more from Trent in particular going forward with continued improvement from Miller and Curbelo to do what he does but just play within himself a hair more.
I really don’t have the greatest feeling about tomorrow’s game...Iowa is the kind of team where if we come out flat we will get our doors blown off. Both games last year were intense and I expect this to be no different. Probably be at least one technical and one flagrant and lots of shit being talked. I really hope the defensive game plan is to not double Garza except for some quick digs and make damn sure we don’t let them kill us from deep. Kofi has to play smart and we need the zebras to remember we are in Champaign.
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All accurate points above by both ^^^^^^.
Garza can pass out of doubles. Is high IQ player.
On offense he is an Ethan Happ with an arsenal of inside moves, with a legit jumper out to three point range. Kid can shoot.
Your basic nightmare at the college level. Too slow and not athletic enough to be big factor in NBA (looks like late first or mid second round), but very very good college player.
Not sure there is any good option, but I kind of prefer some doubles to make him think and work for his points.
It helps that Frederick might be out. That gives them one less legit 3 point guy.
We don't have an individual lock down defender, or very good team defense. Agree we seem to not turn it up very often.
Will be interesting.
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I wonder if the NBA will get so positionless that it opens the door for someone big and highly skilled but not particularly athletic to become a force again?
I also find it interesting that Brad Underwood talked a lot about positionless basketball and then constructed one of the most traditional rosters in the country.
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I wonder if the NBA will get so positionless that it opens the door for someone big and highly skilled but not particularly athletic to become a force again?
I also find it interesting that Brad Underwood talked a lot about positionless basketball and then constructed one of the most traditional rosters in the country.
It kind of seems that the NBA has moved to more postionless as the big men have become more versatile, athletic, and able to shoot from out.
It is why Happ cannot break into a roster spot. Just cannot shoot from out and not athletic enough. These guys in NBA are freak athletes.
It is why Kofi will have trouble finding a spot. He is athletic, but not very good footwork or quickness guarding in space, and cannot shoot at all from out.
NBA teams are now averaging 35 attempted threes a game (a record) and hitting them at 36.5% clip which is near record high, and 12.8 makes per game which is a record.
The overall NBA eFG % is .532 and the highest it has ever been as we speak.
You have to hit the three to play in NBA.
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https://youtu.be/4Q7ny65ugws
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https://youtu.be/S_WC2SB1thM
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Breal is the betting line expert. Lol.
My ignorant guess is Illini (-1).
8) (-2) Illini. O/U-161. I still see us falling something like 90-82. I'd imagine a lot fouls called this game given the history. Refs will be blowing a quick whistle. Kofi needs to stay out of foul trouble. Need both Miller and Frazier hitting their jumpers to help open up that lane.
https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/las-vegas/ (https://www.vegasinsider.com/college-basketball/odds/las-vegas/)
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if my driveway wasn't covered in a foot of snow that I need to remove I'd get my ass down to the sports book and put a money line bet on the hawkeyes just because even if I lose I win
fuck Iowa
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I couldn’t agree more
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Vegas making me feel a little better
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if my driveway wasn't covered in a foot of snow that I need to remove I'd get my ass down to the sports book and put a money line bet on the hawkeyes just because even if I lose I win
fuck Iowa
I'd seen some 3 day forecasts out there 2 days ago with upwards of 13 feet of snow above 10,000 feet. Wondered how high up you were in elevation?
Well just found this. So one report of over 8 feet.
(https://www.weather.gov/images/rev/WxStory/WeatherStory1.png?35f6d1b2221bf21e41369b3816880442)
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my house is at 5000 feet, the snow amounts seemed to go up about a foot per thousand feet, very wet storm!
Mt. Rose is the place I have a season pass at and the base there is 8260 and peaks over 10k
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Offense at least did not come out flat.
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27 points in 4 minutes. Kofi is exhausted already.
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FUCK xxxx!
That’s all.
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Garza eating us alive so far
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Ima puke if we let a mcaffrey go off on us.
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I fucking HATE Conner McCaffery! He’s a little bitch!
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They are smoking our asses right now. We are shooting 82% and down 4.
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I fucking HATE Conner McCaffery! He’s a little bitch!
Took him a whole one minute to start bitching to the officials. Lmao.
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They are smoking our asses right now. We are shooting 82% and down 4.
Yeah no defense. As soon as Giorgi comes in, they automatically throw the ball into Garza for an easy bucket. They know what they’re doing.
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Took him a whole one minute to start bitching to the officials. Lmao.
He needs an elbow right to his fucking nose!
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Number 1 team in the country in offensive efficiency.
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Fran is such a faggot.
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back to back bull shit calls
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ayo got hammered. Them Kofi for a touch foul. Last 5 fouls called all on illinois.
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Garbage officiating
I don't get it
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gotta dunk it
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Joined the game late. Have I missed anything?
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Both of Kofi fouls were weak as fuck
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Garbage officiating
I don't get it
I don’t ever understand how we don’t get the home calls. We never do. Every other team does, but we don’t. Ever. xxxx already in the bonus with some questionable officiating.
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Joined the game late. Have I missed anything?
7 of last 8 whistles on illini. Fran whining more than me on this board.
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7 of last 8 whistles on illini. Fran whining more than me on this board.
You and me put together.
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Fran still bitching
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Should give Garza 2 fouls on that one.
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Frazier so dirty!
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Wow Trent!
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Need a big 2nd half from Kofi.
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I think Underwood saying that Garza was the best player in the nation the other day woke Ayo up. A quiet 21 at half.
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I like our intensity
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Iowa already has 7 offensive rebounds. We need to do a better job on the defensive boards.
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I like our intensity
Definitely like to see that. It’s been awhile since we’ve had this much. Need to bring it more often.
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We still have yet to throw a zone or full court press to slow them down. Straight man to man for the full 20. Iowa was at least throwing different looks at us.
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Good to see we didn't come out flat after the layoff. Keep this up for 20 minutes, sprinkle in some defense and we might pull this out.
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Need to take advantage.
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Missed last 5 shots
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FFS. Garza goes to the bench, we can't hit shit and turn the ball over multiple times.
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Can't take advantage of Garza being on the bench. Ugh.
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Grandison has been huge
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Fun game.
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Man xxxx is so good shooting the 3
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This has a disastrous ending feeling.
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its iowas game now
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Iowa plus 9 over last 6 minutes.
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Can't take advantage of Garza being on the bench. Ugh.
Tony Dungy is playing good defense for Iowa. :D
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Frazier!
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Ayo!
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This has a disastrous ending feeling.
Feels like it's gonna come down to the last possession
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Curbelo is so special!
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Grandison is MVP of the game if we win
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ILL motherfuckers!!! Let’s go!!
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How is the review taking so long???? Clearly not goaltending
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Are Big Ten football officials handling replay now??
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Time to hit some free throws
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Don't do anything stupid.
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Stephan Curry turned into some short white dude on Iowa
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Whew !
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Make a damn free throw.
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Huge
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That was way too close
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That was way too close
What did you expect?
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What did you expect?
Not for us to almost blow a 6 point lead in the last 30 seconds 😂 scared the shit outta me and about pissed my pants after that 5-second call after cutting it to 3.
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Fuck off back to your shitty cornfield, Fran you whining fuck.
Nice box out on Kofi, losers!
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Not for us to almost blow a 6 point lead in the last 30 seconds 😂 scared the shit outta me and about pissed my pants after that 5-second call after cutting it to 3.
That was a very quick 5 second call.
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That was a very quick 5 second call.
No way that was 5 seconds. I thought we called a timeout
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No way that was 5 seconds. I thought we called a timeout
I thought Curbelo just got it in or that we called timeout. Not sure why we kept it in our pocket there.
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We beat a rival ranked number 7 in the country I don't give a fuck how.
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https://youtu.be/F_a5RkuD8M4
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This one has the 5 second call, and Kofi's missed free throw.
https://youtu.be/A7MuArrfejo
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This one has the 5 second call, and Kofi's missed free throw.
https://youtu.be/A7MuArrfejo
I stopwatched it.. was 5 seconds.. seemed shorter live.
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Had to watch on delay. Huge win, game was everything I had hoped it would be.
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https://youtu.be/a3cO-9rxHYg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98xP2jmfE5k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia3vOir24T4&t=31s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzAkvM5SmR4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrVPBZyq9PY
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Fran in the first minute of his presser couldn’t get any more salty if he tried. What a fucking clown.
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Fran in the first minute of his presser couldn’t get any more salty if he tried. What a fucking clown.
Fran is a total punk asshat.
Iowa played like shit. Our defense had something to do with that.
Iowa ran nothing for Garza when they needed a bucket or a foul. They had him setting picks 26 feet from basket most plays.
Of course he didn't get fouled.
Their zone is likely the worse I have seen all year in college basketball.
Ayo had a one man layup drill vs their zone in the first half.
Nice win for Illini and Grandison might be the X factor we have been looking for.
He has more game than DW.
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what a huge win
I-L-L
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Fran in the first minute of his presser couldn’t get any more salty if he tried. What a fucking clown.
Fran is such a salty little bitch. Is there any other coach more annoying in the the big 10? Nope.
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Fran is a total punk asshat.
He is a bitch. And his kid is a little bitch. Maybe the younger one will turn out ok.
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Williams and Miller don't score, Kofi single figures, lose the t/o battle, and we still win? Hard to figure but how sweet it is!
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The first half was overall brilliant basketball (both teams). Things got a little sloppy in the second, but we made enough plays to hang on.
Best win of the year.
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Fran in the first minute of his presser couldn’t get any more salty if he tried. What a fucking clown.
Christ, what an asshole.
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Just finished watching the game, that was some excellent entertainment
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No way that was 5 seconds. I thought we called a timeout
I didn’t get to finish watching the game until tonight. I rewound and watched the 5-second call 3 times, and it was NOT 5 seconds. The ref gave four arm sweeps and immediately blew his whistle. Curbelo got it out at 4.5 seconds.
The ref just miscounted I think. Or he was trying to make up for Wieskamp not getting points on the putback after Kofi’s block that they initially ruled a goaltend.
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BTW, Grandison is giving some good minutes. He’s not as good a defender or shooter as Damonte, but he has some real hustle and he is more decisive with the ball. Having a guy who can operate in the high post like him makes it tough for teams to zone us too.
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I didn’t get to finish watching the game until tonight. I rewound and watched the 5-second call 3 times, and it was NOT 5 seconds. The ref gave four arm sweeps and immediately blew his whistle. Curbelo got it out at 4.5 seconds.
The ref just miscounted I think. Or he was trying to make up for Wieskamp not getting points on the putback after Kofi’s block that they initially ruled a goaltend.
I did the same, and it seemed to be ~4 seconds.
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Not sure if Grandison can jump more than 4” but plays hard and seems to have a nose for the ball that’s for sure.
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https://youtu.be/b9aQ_l0js50
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Not sure if Grandison can jump more than 4” but plays hard and seems to have a nose for the ball that’s for sure.
Had some dunks lately. LOL.
Certainly can jump higher than Georgi.
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Iowa is very very good when hitting threes in transition, and there is something to be said for the idea that if they beat us and then win BTT they have outside shot to get a 1 seed.
That said- I think we handle them based upon better defense. Iowa has too many defensive breakdowns and unless they go nuts from 3 we should win.
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Iowa is #1 in defensive efficiency in the conference over their last 10 games. 2 teams scored more than 70 pts.
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The 6 before that stretch all went over 70.
The 10 game stretch includes Nebraska, PSU, Indiana, Rutgers and 3 vs Wisco.
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Murderers row there offensively 🤣
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They have improved significantly. Kofi has to stay out of foul trouble.
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Wanna add tOSU was in the middle of 3 games they didn't hit 70 to the murderers row, or nah ?
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They have improved significantly. Kofi has to stay out of foul trouble.
Agree they are playing better D.
Fredericks is solid and healthy again.
Mostly they have stopped playing that shit zone.
We still are much better than them defensively.
It appears Coach Hulka gave the team a new asshole about our D after mid February.
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Last night, Fran complimented the Illini as a good offensive team which also plays tough defense, and added that some teams that play good O aren't as aggressive at teh D end.
Because of Zoom's mute function, I don't know whether anyone laughed out loud.
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Bohannons interview is what stood out to me as the most comical. But agreed it strains Fran mightily to say anything positive about the Illini.
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Lol change game thread title to King Kofi vs. Garzilla. 8)
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Both teams are better than when they played earlier. Should be a good one.
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Lol change game thread title to King Kofi vs. Garzilla. 8)
That’s racist!
You’re cancelled!
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Lol. Both players remind me of the match-up.
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All right guys let’s go
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Let’s stomp these schlubs
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The Kofi and belo show!
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Iowa playing its Swiss cheese defense.
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I love Ayo but we need to put Demonte on Weiskamp
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Wieskamp is keeping Iowa in this
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Kofi is eating Garza alive
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This is fun!
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Kofi is eating Garza alive
Garza would have already fouled out if he was trying to guard Kofi.
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I fucking love this team!!! We’re on a fucking mission! This is so fucking fun! Fuck yeah!!😂🤣
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Iowas 6th 3.
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Iowas 6th 3.
That's keeping them in the game.
Very efficient half for Illinois
2 turnovers
6 steals
5 fouls
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I think he got all ball on that one. We caught a break there. I'll happily take it though.
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I think he got all ball on that one. We caught a break there. I'll happily take it though.
Looked to me like he raked across the arm.
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I fucking love this team!!! We’re on a fucking mission! This is so fucking fun! Fuck yeah!!😂🤣
And BLEEP Garza.
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I'll go left hand. lol
2 turnovers. Outstanding.
45 points. Ourstanding.
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Looked to me like he raked across the arm.
I was only watching the ball initially but after another view of it you might be right.
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Kofi 18 pts and he's shitting all over Garza
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He def got him on the arm but I don’t think it was a foul. Seems to me they really hold the whistle until they see the outcome on most of these 50/50 calls. “I’m not really sure there was much contact but the results made it look like contact was likely so I’ll blow the whistle”
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Where was the hook on Garza?
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Grandison was a helluva pickup
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Getting a little sloppy
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Loved the Ayo bat mask promo right there with the CBS crew!
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Game is high paced. Gonna take an A game to win it. Iowas bringing their best they got to give.
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Dee Williams
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Dee Williams
I noticed that too. Then he got cut off and real quiet 😂
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Quit whining Garza about not getting a foul on Kofi on the entry pass. You're elbowing guys to make room and the refs aren't calling you for fouls.
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Man, this is a heavyweight fight!
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I'm expecting a run from them. Just try to keep this ~10 point lead.
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LFG
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Idiotic foul by Garza
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Fuckjng bullshit fuck faggot ass fran
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Not smart by Damonte
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Fucking Monte. Come on man
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Fuck
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Nice D, Garza. LOL
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Great hustle play & steal by Curbelo.
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I can't fucking wait until the day Bohannon finally leaves college.
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Damonte's shot was to upper chest though...pretty cheap.
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Curbelo is such a boss. Sign that kid for a 3 year extension.
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Curbelo just consistently makes me so happy!!!
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I get the flagrant call in real time but what the fuck his arm never got above chest level from any angle I saw and the announcers specifically said it was the obvious call and great work by the officials. If you literally don’t make contact with neck or head how is it flagrant?
Also why didn’t Ayo get the timeout instead it was a jump ball and gave the ball to Iowa?
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Watch the replay McCaffery definitely floped his head back on contact pretending he got hit in the face. DvR
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We gotta pull this out!
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Trent says enough of that shit, Bohannon
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Great fucking win!
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FUCK. YES!
LETS GO!
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What was the Vegas line, lol?
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Lol that's not even gonna count. Suck it, losers!
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Fuck you Weiskamp, doesn’t count! Fran is our bitch!
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Haha that was a like a cat playing with a mouse for 38 mins and just when the mouse thought it actually had a chance the cat snuffed it without hesitation or remorse of any kind.
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What a game. So nice to be back in the Champtionship and be relevant after all my years of bitching in this forum.
That is not an easy team to beat. Iowa will go deep in the tourney.
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Exactly! If it has to be neck or head level, then that was the wrong call. On video it should be easy to ignore the whiplash move that McCaf gave.
I get the flagrant call in real time but what the fuck his arm never got above chest level from any angle I saw and the announcers specifically said it was the obvious call and great work by the officials. If you literally don’t make contact with neck or head how is it flagrant?
Also why didn’t Ayo get the timeout instead it was a jump ball and gave the ball to Iowa?
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Iowa is good. We are a clear level above them right now.
Our D and ball movement was phenomenal.
Lets finish this thing off and get ready for a Final Four run..
I think we avoid Gonzaga in FF semi now. We are clearly the #2 team in country.
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Iowa is good. We are a clear level above them right now.
Our D and ball movement was phenomenal.
Lets finish this thing off and get ready for a Final Four run..
I think we avoid Gonzaga in FF semi now. We are clearly the #2 team in country.
Yeah we have to be the second best team in the country right now. We’ve won 13 of our last 14 and most quad 1 wins in the nation by far. Regardless of what happens tomorrow.
Don’t see how Michigan gets a 1 seed with Livers out and losing 3 of last 4 against quality competition. I’m sure they will, but it’s bogus. I’d put them on the 2 seed line.
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Illini basketball is fun again
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Normally don’t do this but I was casually following the game thread on Hawkeye Report. Apparently opposing teams are supposed to allow the Hawkeyes unfettered access to the basket.
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Any, or all, of Garza, Wieskamp, Bohannon or Fran's kid can put up points.
We don't have that luxury, but we play d.
Bucknuts have played 3 days in a row. We need to play like today.
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Normally don’t do this but I was casually following the game thread on Hawkeye Report. Apparently opposing teams are supposed to allow the Hawkeyes unfettered access to the basket.
It starts at the top. The Fran rule.
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Just watched Garza interview. He's reasonably articulate with good takes. No whining from him at all.
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Iowa is good. We are a clear level above them right now.
Our D and ball movement was phenomenal.
Lets finish this thing off and get ready for a Final Four run..
I think we avoid Gonzaga in FF semi now. We are clearly the #2 team in country.
Maybe I’m nuts but I still am more concerned about Baylor than Gonzaga. They’re a very tough matchup for us. Gonzaga hasn’t seen a team built and playing like us all season.
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if Bama wins tomorrow or Ohio St do either of them replace Michigan?
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I agree about Baylor. Thankful that we wont' meet them before FF if the seeding/chalk plays out.
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Maybe I’m nuts but I still am more concerned about Baylor than Gonzaga. They’re a very tough matchup for us. Gonzaga hasn’t seen a team built and playing like us all season.
Exactly how I feel.
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if Bama wins tomorrow or Ohio St do either of them replace Michigan?
Yes.
UM is in a tailspin.
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I agree about Baylor. Thankful that we wont' meet them before FF if the seeding/chalk plays out.
Baylor has lost their edge, but they could get it back in first couple NCAA games.
They are damn good for sure.
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Just went to an Iowa message board.. Man they are salty..
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The fix was in. Big 10 needs big ratings for the championship. One of the most one sided officiated games I’ve ever seen"
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How wild is it that Illinois staff is wearing Mike Slive Foundation pins on their shirts?
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Maybe I’m nuts but I still am more concerned about Baylor than Gonzaga. They’re a very tough matchup for us. Gonzaga hasn’t seen a team built and playing like us all season.
Illini are playing their best ball now. One loss in the last two months.
Baylor may have peaked in midseason. Gonzaga hasn't played anyone in months, so it's hard to know what they actually are.
Raftery said it today - this team has so many ways to beat you. I think they're going to run the field like shit through a goose.
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Just went to an Iowa message board.. Man they are salty..
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The fix was in. Big 10 needs big ratings for the championship. One of the most one sided officiated games I’ve ever seen"
Which is hilarious because if the refs actually called a good game today, Garza would have fouled out in the first 10 minutes of the first half. He also could have had 2 flagrant fouls called on him for elbowing Kofi in the head. Also, the refs missed a flagrant 2 on Bohannon literally shoving Curbelo at the freethrow line in the 2nd half. The refs were trash, but they gave Iowa plenty of opportunity.
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if Bama wins tomorrow or Ohio St do either of them replace Michigan?
Illinois will beat Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship Game tomorrow. The Illini are the better, bigger and healthier team. Ohio State will likely be missing Kyle Young (again). The Buckeyes will be playing their 4th game in 4 days, 1 more than Illinois. That doesn't help OSU.
Illinois has guards who can break down defenses and create for others, a shot-blocker / dominant low post scorer, and good 3 point shooting. Have some faith in this team when you make your bracket picks.
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Maybe I’m nuts but I still am more concerned about Baylor than Gonzaga. They’re a very tough matchup for us. Gonzaga hasn’t seen a team built and playing like us all season.
Same.
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Baylor may have peaked in midseason.
They had actual COVID. Not just contact, or positive tests.
Who knows how much it affected their conditioning, and how many of them had severe symptoms.
Congratulations to Illinois for living in a non-red, reality-based community.
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Illinois will beat Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship Game tomorrow. The Illini are the better, bigger and healthier team. Ohio State will likely be missing Kyle Young (again). The Buckeyes will be playing their 4th game in 4 days, 1 more than Illinois. That doesn't help OSU.
Illinois has guards who can break down defenses and create for others, a shot-blocker / dominant low post scorer, and good 3 point shooting. Have some faith in this team when you make your bracket picks.
We should win against the buckeyes. But if Washington and Lidell are hot, and Kofi gets in foul trouble or we get cold shooting - it can be lost. One game at a time.
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Playing at a super high level right now for sure. But every time I start feeling cocky I remember it was only a month ago we needed a comeback and OT to beat Nebraska and 2 weeks ago MSU straight up beat us. Literally. Or all the other nut punch moments of Illini fandom.
But yeah if these guys can keep playing at this level there are so many special stories still to be written in an already incredibly special season.
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We are playing our best at the perfect time going into the tourney.
I guess I'll just be the guy who posts obvious things :)
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I guess I'll just be the guy who posts obvious things :)
Gene Simmons's first name: Chaim.
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Gene Simmons's first name: Chaim.
I actually didn't know that.
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IL now 3rd in KenPom behind Gonzaga...and behind Michigan by slimmest of margins. Imagine a comfortable win over OSU tomorrow would bump us to second, FWIW.
Remember this was a team KenPom didn’t like nearly as much as pollsters and fans did before the season started. Turns out the algorithm was pretty spot on as we quickly slid down the polls to pretty much exactly where KP had us pegged before the season. A lot of people saw Ayo and Kofi as All Americans and got boners but forgot we were replacing some pieces and relying heavily on freshmen that didn’t get the normal season ramp up.
Once the new guys got their feet under them, Grandison entered the starting lineup, and Kofi started attacking the rim like it fucked his girlfriend, this team has just improved by leaps and bounds. We have won 13 of 14 and won/covered last 6 games meaning we consistently keep outperformed what we’re already high expectations.
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Where has Hawkins gone ?
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I've been wondering as well. Just a shorter bench now?
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BBV seems to have replaced him the last couple of games.
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Where has Hawkins gone ?
Wished into the corn field.
(https://i.ibb.co/ZYyS4rG/A38-C7-BF5-AD7-A-4986-A8-F9-DDA0066-DC29-E.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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That was a great game, holy shit this team is fun to watch, can't wait for tomorrow when we can hoist the B1G Championship trophy
suck it wolverines
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BBV seems to have replaced him the last couple of games.
Really unclear about where Hawkins stands. I guess practice and game situations dictate. They do need another Big option for tourney.
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Yeah I’m just not seeing why Hawkins hasn’t gotten more minutes for a large portion of the season. I can easily see why Lieb and Hamlin and BBV don’t get more minutes. Whenever they are on the floor there’s an immediate drop off. Hawkins misses some assignments and gets lost but he makes things happen. Seems like if he ever got to play free without getting yanked at his first mistake maybe he’d make some strides.
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We should win against the buckeyes. But if Washington and Lidell are hot, and Kofi gets in foul trouble or we get cold shooting - it can be lost. One game at a time.
Playing at a super high level right now for sure. But every time I start feeling cocky I remember it was only a month ago we needed a comeback and OT to beat Nebraska and 2 weeks ago MSU straight up beat us. Literally. Or all the other nut punch moments of Illini fandom.
But yeah if these guys can keep playing at this level there are so many special stories still to be written in an already incredibly special season.
First off, Illinois and Ohio State are not playing football tomorrow. Second, Ayo and Kofi are going pro after this season; this is their last shot at a conference title. A #1 seed (likely #2 overall) in the NCAA Tournament is guaranteed with a win. So they're going to be very, very motivated. And let's be honest -- Illinois is bigger upfront & has better overall talent. So unless Tim Donaghy is one of the officials working the game or Illinois literally forgets to show up for tip-off, I don't see Ohio State pulling off an upset.
On Eleven Warriors, quite a few are hoping Holtmann uses Zed Key (6'-8", 245) to defend Kofi at times. He's about the biggest available player on the Buckeyes roster. I didn't have the heart to tell them if that happens it would probably be really, really ugly for Key and OSU.
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Yeah I’m just not seeing why Hawkins hasn’t gotten more minutes for a large portion of the season. I can easily see why Lieb and Hamlin and BBV don’t get more minutes. Whenever they are on the floor there’s an immediate drop off. Hawkins misses some assignments and gets lost but he makes things happen. Seems like if he ever got to play free without getting yanked at his first mistake maybe he’d make some strides.
He is kind of a loose cannon, I think.
I think he will either start to thrive here or transfer after next year. Hope he stays.
The off season will determine if Coach Hulka can break him.
Sometimes it doesn't work out and a kid can actually play. Tevian Jones left and is producing. I forget what his issue was here.
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First off, Illinois and Ohio State are not playing football tomorrow. Second, Ayo and Kofi are going pro after this season; this is their last shot at a conference title. A #1 seed (likely #2 overall) in the NCAA Tournament is guaranteed with a win. So they're going to be very, very motivated. And let's be honest -- Illinois is bigger upfront & has better overall talent. So unless Tim Donaghy is one of the officials working the game or Illinois literally forgets to show up for tip-off, I don't see Ohio State pulling off an upset.
On Eleven Warriors, quite a few are hoping Holtmann uses Zed Key (6'-8", 245) to defend Kofi at times. He's about the biggest available player on the Buckeyes roster. I didn't have the heart to tell them if that happens it would probably be really, really ugly for Key and OSU.
OSU has exceeded expectations all year. Holtmann is good coach. I think they are a Top 12 team/3 seed, but will end up a 2 for sure, and if they win tomorrow could take UM's spot.
We should win unless they shoot really well and Kofi gets in foul trouble early.
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https://twitter.com/JordanBo_3
lol what a crybaby
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https://twitter.com/JordanBo_3
lol what a crybaby
Geez. What a fcking punk.
I wish him a nice career in shit lower level in Europe where they stiff him on his paycheck - after their second round exit.
Of course he is like 30 years old so they maybe will not want a chucker who can't guard an empty chair.
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(https://i.ibb.co/hykh4Kx/Screenshot-20210314-074742.jpg) (https://ibb.co/JKN0GzW)
Of course you will. Fran go 2nd ?
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He was a punk ass yesterday during the pregame interview as well claiming Fran gets treated unfairly by the media.
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He was a punk ass yesterday during the pregame interview as well claiming Fran gets treated unfair by the media.
I hope he returns next season. He's sure to get the best of Belo by then. ;D
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https://twitter.com/JordanBo_3
lol what a crybaby
What happened on March 8?
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I hope he returns next season. He's sure to get the best of Belo by then. ;D
Belo abused them. Took their fcking lunch money on playground and dunked on them.
Blowhannon has already played like 150 games due to injury redshirt year.
He could go for 190 and then go on Medicare.
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https://twitter.com/JordanBo_3
lol what a crybaby
A whiny little bitch, just like his coach.
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So much bitching about the officiating.
https://iowa.forums.rivals.com/threads/illinois-is-better-but-the-big-ten-refs-come-on.351669/page-2
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Belo abused them. Took their fcking lunch money on playground and dunked on them.
Blowhannon has already played like 150 games due to injury redshirt year.
He could go for 190 and then go on Medicare.
😂😂👍
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They had actual COVID. Not just contact, or positive tests.
Who knows how much it affected their conditioning, and how many of them had severe symptoms.
Congratulations to Illinois for living in a non-red, reality-based community.
Considering their age and health, the odds are against any of them having severe symptoms from Covid.
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OSU has exceeded expectations all year. Holtmann is good coach. I think they are a Top 12 team/3 seed, but will end up a 2 for sure, and if they win tomorrow could take UM's spot.
We should win unless they shoot really well and Kofi gets in foul trouble early.
For the most part, Ohio State has played well this season. The Buckeyes are undersized but they're tough and play hard. Holtmann has done a very good job coaching. The most important thing for OSU is...who will be the starting QB in 2021.
IMO it would be quite the statement as to how tough the Big Ten was this season if Ohio State beats Illinois in the BTT Championship and then Illinois goes on to win the NCAA Tournament. If that happens, officially it would be Michigan (B1G regular season champion by winning %), Ohio State (B1G Ten Tournament champion), and Illinois (NCAA Tournament champion). I'm happy regardless of which team wins today; they're both going to the NCAA Tournament as high seeds. I'd like to see Illinois get a #1 seed (#2 overall behind Gonzaga) and a win would probably secure that slot.
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Wow Bohannon is a little bitch.
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Wow Bohannon is a little bitch.
Who could have guessed it? He always has such a pleasant expression.
:'(
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For the most part, Ohio State has played well this season. The Buckeyes are undersized but they're tough and play hard. Holtmann has done a very good job coaching. The most important thing for OSU is...who will be the starting QB in 2021.
IMO it would be quite the statement as to how tough the Big Ten was this season if Ohio State beats Illinois in the BTT Championship and then Illinois goes on to win the NCAA Tournament. If that happens, officially it would be Michigan (B1G regular season champion by winning %), Ohio State (B1G Ten Tournament champion), and Illinois (NCAA Tournament champion). I'm happy regardless of which team wins today; they're both going to the NCAA Tournament as high seeds. I'd like to see Illinois get a #1 seed (#2 overall behind Gonzaga) and a win would probably secure that slot.
We’re a 1-seed regardless of whether we win today, IMO. The only question is whether we’re the 1-seed in the Midwest region.
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Looks like we’ve already passed Michigan for the 3rd 1 seed in some projections.
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I honestly can’t remember a group of pussies like that Iowa team. Bunch of absolute bitches.
And they retired Garza’s number, which is insane.
Lots of punchable faces in that Iowa team as well. I mean, I wouldn’t punch them, because they’re athletes and I’m a 40-something dude who talks shit on the internet, but still.
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We’re a 1-seed regardless of whether we win today, IMO. The only question is whether we’re the 1-seed in the Midwest region.
I agree, but whether we're the #2, #3, or #4 as far as top seeds go is still up for debate. Hence my (#2 overall behind Gonzaga) designation.
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"The IU community"
wtf Nance