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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: Lkdog on December 21, 2020, 09:38:06 PM
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Last 7 games.
15-49.
7-26 from 3.
40 pts.
5.7 ppg
Only 20 min and 1 shot att vs Rutgers.
Getting yelled at by Sgt Hulka 4.3 times per game.
Discuss.
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My expectations for Miller as a freshman were tempered by the fact that, like Ayo, none of the blue bloods really got involved in his recruitment. They aren’t one and done type phenoms but really good 2-3 year foundational pieces that you build around. So I am not surprised that he is struggling against top 15 teams that play elite defense 8-9 games into his college career.
That said, this ain’t Morgan Park/Mac Irvin Fire basketball anymore, Ace. You wanted to go to a good program where you could get minutes against big time opponents on national TV, and you’ve been getting them. Now you gotta start earning them.
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Last 7 games.
15-49.
7-26 from 3.
40 pts.
5.7 ppg
Only 20 min and 1 shot att vs Rutgers.
Getting yelled at by Sgt Hulka 4.3 times per game.
Discuss.
Freshman wall as in, other teams aren't leaving him wide open anymore. He will figure it out, he's very talented. D needs a ton of work though and that will come with playing with your teammates for longer periods of time
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It's not unheard of for freshmen and disappointing after his opening game.
We desperately need one of Miller, Trent, or Grandison figure out how to be a secondary scoring threat at a high level. I hate being that guy, but Alan Griffin has put 20 points/8+ rebounds on both of his P5 opponents, including the team we just lost to. Rumor was he bailed in part because of our guard depth but...he'd be our starting 3 and would be playing 25+ mpg. And we'd probably be 7-1.
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Agree
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It's not unheard of for freshmen and disappointing after his opening game.
We desperately need one of Miller, Trent, or Grandison figure out how to be a secondary scoring threat at a high level. I hate being that guy, but Alan Griffin has put 20 points/8+ rebounds on both of his P5 opponents, including the team we just lost to. Rumor was he bailed in part because of our guard depth but...he'd be our starting 3 and would be playing 25+ mpg. And we'd probably be 7-1.
Well, it's not going to be Grandison, and Miller isn't worth having out there if he is not hitting shots. He doesn't do anything else right now. Trent had a very good game vs Rutgers, but has been inconsistent. Curbelo needs to play more if Miller can't figure it out. Curbelo needs to play more period.
The loss of Griffin was huge. He was our best shooter and pure scorer, athletic, and had a lot of attitude.
Agree he would be starting over Miller and we would be better team- like Top 5 good. He made Ayo better. Ayo is trying to do too much again.
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Curbelo would have played until his legs fell off in the Rutgers game if he could quit fouling
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CF was kinda right about Frazier. CF predicted he wouldn’t keep scoring at the rate he did as a freshman. Spot on. Also said he was too slight and would break down. Partially true.
Frazier has given up the primary scoring role to Ayo and dedicated himself to being an elite defender and secondary scoring option. It’s not that he can’t score at the rate he used to, it’s that Ayo is the better option. So he’s right here but not for the reasons he stated.
Where CF is right on TF’s size actually is taking place on the other end of the floor. Trent is a tenacious defender and has great technique, but he’s quite limited by his size and strength.
When we have Curbelo and TF in the lineup at the same time, it’s really tough to match up with big physical guards and/or 3-4s who can handle the ball. So it’s not a great situation when we have to go to that lineup against teams like Rutgers.
So at times we have to choose between that or Miller or Grandison being out there more. Sadly Adam Miller looks like the sophomore version of Da’Monte Williams right now and Grandison from what I can tell is a poor man’s Alex Legion.
The light bulb turning on for Adam is probably the difference between a solid Top 25 team and a legit Top 10 team by March. Then again I’m not really sure about labeling any teams outside of Zaga and Baylor because after those two it seems like there are a bunch of other teams that are at a very similar level.
100% agree that Griffin was a huge loss for this team that can’t be made up by anything Adam can do this year. I think Adam is a tough kid but he won’t ever be as long as Griffin and may not ever play with the edge and be the kind of ball hawk Griffin did. I would be shocked if AG doesn’t end up in the NBA. With his pedigree that shouldn’t be surprising but many forget he was a low ranked recruit OA picked up off the spring scrap heap a couple years ago. (Yes I know he finished his HS career very strong but still)
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Agree with every word of that save the NBA prognostics which I just wouldn't bother guessing for a wing guard anymore.
Griffin was a recruiting steal given that teams were looking at him as a long play to get his brother and none of the big east coast schools offered him.
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Ahem .......
Looks like your numbers are for the last 6 games.
For all 8 games, he's had 83 points.
For the year, he's had 4 double digit games, and had 9 vs Dook.
He's struggled in our 3 losses vs Baylor, Missourah, and Rutgers.
I know what you're sayin, but he's early into his freshman year.
(https://i.ibb.co/MCZk509/Screenshot-20201223-122637.jpg) (https://ibb.co/tJQpPr3)
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Yes, the stats were for 6 games, not 7. Oops, my bad.
Same stats though since we started playing teams that were not glorified scrimmages.
He was 2-6 today and 1-4 from three.
Now shooting 31% overall and 26% from 3 in legit games.
He did have a nice flex when he made an and one.
Except he missed the one.
Sorry, not impressed so far. Based upon what we have seen to date he needs to sit more, play Curbelo more, and hopefully he gets on track with more work in practice. They gave Grandison some of his tick and he looked good and likely will get some in next games also.
Focus on his defense, learning how to use screens, make himself available for good shots, drive more if he can. They have decided to stay home on him on D.
He needs to adapt.
This isn't AAU.
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He had a couple hilarious mistakes on the P&R last night where he was just running around covering no one while his man was getting to the rim uncontested.
Speaking of P&R not sure why Underpants doesn't go zone sometimes. Easily the worst thing about this team so far although they did a little better for the most part last night.
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Yes, the stats were for 6 games, not 7. Oops, my bad.
Same stats though since we started playing teams that were not glorified scrimmages.
He was 2-6 today and 1-4 from three.
Now shooting 31% overall and 26% from 3 in legit games.
He did have a nice flex when he made an and one.
Except he missed the one.
Sorry, not impressed so far. Based upon what we have seen to date he needs to sit more, play Curbelo more, and hopefully he gets on track with more work in practice. They gave Grandison some of his tick and he looked good and likely will get some in next games also.
Focus on his defense, learning how to use screens, make himself available for good shots, drive more if he can. They have decided to stay home on him on D.
He needs to adapt.
This isn't AAU.
I agree with you. I was just picking on the 7 game part after thinking wait a minute, we've played 8.
He's put up some nice looking 3's when he's been wide open, but I'm just trying to cut him some slack. I'm hoping the reduction in off season and pre-season workouts and games is partly responsible for his play, along with the schedule we've played.
Curbelo has had some freshman moments too, but he just looks like he's got hoops smarts and is fun to watch. His turnovers can be a little out of control, but some of his assists are assists we are not used to seeing.
Hawkins didn't play, but I didn't hear if there was a reason.
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I agree with you. I was just picking on the 7 game part after thinking wait a minute, we've played 8.
He's put up some nice looking 3's when he's been wide open, but I'm just trying to cut him some slack. I'm hoping the reduction in off season and pre-season workouts and games is partly responsible for his play, along with the schedule we've played.
Curbelo has had some freshman moments too, but he just looks like he's got hoops smarts and is fun to watch. His turnovers can be a little out of control, but some of his assists are assists we are not used to seeing.
Hawkins didn't play, but I didn't hear if there was a reason.
Yeah I was wondering about Hawkins too.
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I agree with you. I was just picking on the 7 game part after thinking wait a minute, we've played 8.
He's put up some nice looking 3's when he's been wide open, but I'm just trying to cut him some slack. I'm hoping the reduction in off season and pre-season workouts and games is partly responsible for his play, along with the schedule we've played.
Curbelo has had some freshman moments too, but he just looks like he's got hoops smarts and is fun to watch. His turnovers can be a little out of control, but some of his assists are assists we are not used to seeing.
Hawkins didn't play, but I didn't hear if there was a reason.
Miller can shoot, but they are closing out hard and the defenders are not what he is used to. Longer, faster, and quicker.
Teams create entire offenses upon how to attack close outs. I will give Ayo a lot of credit- he is very good at shot fakes and then getting to midrange where he is better, or driving to hole off of those close outs.
If he could shoot the three better, he would be a lock for 1st round. The NBA has become so three ball oriented that he has to develop that.
As for Millier- I blame staff for his struggles TBH. He has to adapt- but I do not see him doing anything different very often. He did have one good take and make vs PSU.
If he watched Trent when they were full speed taking away his threeball at Rutgers, he started putting it on the floor. They then have to slow down the close outs which gives him a little more space.
Miller needs to think more now as it is not easy at this level.
If he can get going, and Grandison can contribute, and Curbelo can calm down a little, we could be good.
And no flexing until you have earned it. Good way to get your ass clocked next time down.
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He had a couple hilarious mistakes on the P&R last night where he was just running around covering no one while his man was getting to the rim uncontested.
Speaking of P&R not sure why Underpants doesn't go zone sometimes. Easily the worst thing about this team so far although they did a little better for the most part last night.
Underpants went zone against Rutgers with mixed results. My guess is he actually wants the young guys to learn to defend the pick and roll.
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If we are blaming the staff for Miller being disappointing do we credit them for Curbelo being better than expected? I always have a hard time figuring out when it’s the staff’s fault a player isn’t playing to our expectations. Particularly freshmen.
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If we are blaming the staff for Miller being disappointing do we credit them for Curbelo being better than expected? I always have a hard time figuring out when it’s the staff’s fault a player isn’t playing to our expectations. Particularly freshmen.
Curbelo is simply a better basketball player than Miller. Understands the game way better, faster with the ball, good handle, OK shooter and finisher already, and the best passer we have had here in my memory.
Yes, gets out over his skis, but he is a baller.
I don't think this staff develops anybody at any level skill wise that much really.
They push a work ethic, but as far as teaching, after four years it is pretty obvious that is not Underdog's forte.
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Curbelo is simply a better basketball player than Miller. Understands the game way better, faster with the ball, good handle, OK shooter and finisher already, and the best passer we have had here in my memory.
Yes, gets out over his skis, but he is a baller.
I don't think this staff develops anybody at any level skill wise that much really.
They push a work ethic, but as far as teaching, after four years it is pretty obvious that is not Underdog's forte.
I think Antigua has done a fabulous job with Kofi. Damonte has progressed nicely and improved. Ayo has improved. Trent and Gorgi have been asked to take lesser roles it appears. I wouldn’t say this staff hasn’t developed players. I mean if you’re gonna knock the staff for some, shouldn’t they get credit for others. As Custard said, how can you determine that exactly. I mean does the staff get credit when Curbelo or Miller figure it all out? Or any coach for that matter.
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Curbelo is simply a better basketball player than Miller. Understands the game way better, faster with the ball, good handle, OK shooter and finisher already, and the best passer we have had here in my memory.
Yes, gets out over his skis, but he is a baller.
I don't think this staff develops anybody at any level skill wise that much really.
They push a work ethic, but as far as teaching, after four years it is pretty obvious that is not Underdog's forte.
this staff is miles ahead of prior staffs where players just wouldn't get better every year... I have seen TONS of improvement from literally everyone
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this staff is miles ahead of prior staffs where players just wouldn't get better every year... I have seen TONS of improvement from literally everyone
Yeah that’s what I tried to reiterate in my post as well. Idk what he’s watching, but I’ve seen it as well.
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I think Antigua has done a fabulous job with Kofi. Damonte has progressed nicely and improved. Ayo has improved. Trent and Gorgi have been asked to take lesser roles it appears. I wouldn’t say this staff hasn’t developed players. I mean if you’re gonna knock the staff for some, shouldn’t they get credit for others. As Custard said, how can you determine that exactly. I mean does the staff get credit when Curbelo or Miller figure it all out? Or any coach for that matter.
Antigua has gotten players here. He and the assistant's recruiting are the biggest reason we are in Top 20.
Big men are the place where one often sees the most improvement in college. People here were pretty much unanimously thinking Kofi had been struggling or regressed until the last couple games. His D footwork on ball screens and in space is terrible.
He improved his post offense last year over time for sure, but he is still pretty limited to 3-4 feet. Guy gets stuffed a lot for being the strongest guy on the floor. I like him, he works hard, but he is kind of mostly what he was last year at best.
Georgi is not better. Period. He has to develop some range.
Ayo is just a hard worker. He is an everyday guy more than talented IMO.
Ayo has improved his midrange and the kid no doubt works very hard. Staff have given him the ball and total freedom. I think that is what they contributed. Is very very good college player.
They, nor he, have fixed his threeball, however. (7-23 since the scrimmage vs NC School for the Blind where we played horse).
Whoever worked with Damonte to fix his shot (great form now) needs to work with Ayo on his threeball. It is simply not good form from ground up. People worried about it coming out of HS. Has what looks like almost a two hand release, and his body angle and feet are inconsistently at the needed positions. Does better with time.
His jumper inside the line is much better and improved.
His drives in open court have always been electric. Mostly right hand still.
Not a half court break down guy or distributor. TO's are high rate. 18 in last 4 games. Trying to do too much (he wants to lead I give him credit for that) but he just does not have the handle to carry the load so much.
Staff getting him off the ball last year helped him takeoff as a wing and the team was better without him handling it so much. Feliz was a baller.
DaMonte obviously worked his ass off. Pretty rare to see a kid change and improve his stroke midway through junior year like that.
Ayo almost has two different forms - one inside 17 feet and one on the three line.
Trent is not really better. Period. Kid is an Illini through and through, decent player, but still can't finish and his D is over rated.
Needs 15 shots a game which will never happen again here.
Its no secret I think this staff is not the greatest in terms of game prep, in game adjustments, and teaching a working system overall.
We do not have an identity right now. We developed one in second half last year and I think were poised to surprise people.
I think we have the talent to make an impact in BIG and a run. It's a work in progress but I do not see consistent improvement and we are nearing halfway mark.
The defense is really struggling and it is basic stuff.
I hope it starts to come together.
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Underpants went zone against Rutgers with mixed results. My guess is he actually wants the young guys to learn to defend the pick and roll.
Yeah I missed the Rutgers game. I just mean a few possessions when the opponent starts getting into the groove on P&R. Last night they starting hedging from the weak wing, which seemed to throw the PSU guards off a little.
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this staff is miles ahead of prior staffs where players just wouldn't get better every year... I have seen TONS of improvement from literally everyone
Name who has improved a TON. Seriously.
I am certainly open to other views.
We are deeper and have more talent now, but were better team at end of last year IMO.
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Curbelo was just a better player than Miller last year and he still is. Not much mystery about it imo, and probably nothing to do with the staff. Miller isn't used to the close outs, he looks like a freshman on defense and probably relied on superior athleticism in the past. He will adjust.
Curbelo is just different. He's already adjusted really well. He is also already solid at scrambling defense and he gets the defensive rotations, he's just not strong and so he gets too handsy.
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After being exposed at this level, Underwood scrapped his base defensive and offensive schemes and has been experimenting with ways to improve ever since. I suspect he’ll continue to do so. Up until last season it was a revolving door of new bodies coming in and the staff trying to find a way to mold them into some form of competitive team.
In three seasons we went from complete dog shit to a whisker from a B1G title. The biggest part of that was bringing in better talent. I think players are improving.
Frazier is a more complete player, just isn’t taking volume shots like he used to. And we don’t want or need him to. He’s limited by his size in all aspects of the game.
DMW is vastly improved.
Ayo has improved year over year by leaps and bounds.
They brought Kofi in who was overweight and not even a primary option on his high school team and turned him into a chiseled specimen that was the B1G freshman of the year.
Alan Griffin was lost as an Easter egg most of his freshman year and evolved into a key cog in year 2.
Kipper was Kipper. One night he’d look like Jimmy Butler Lite then spend 4 or 5 games in la la land.
I’m not at practice so I can’t say how much is the staff and how much is natural year over year development of the players as they mature. But to say there isn’t improvement seems odd because it’s easily proven with statistics.
I don’t understand how we can give credit to the staff for how much DMW improved his shot but then ask why they aren’t doing the same for Ayo. Even if we assume they only coached DMW and not Ayo to shoot better, you could make the argument that DMW had nowhere to go but up while they didn’t want to break Ayo down and try to rebuild his entire form because frankly he is pretty damned effective as-is. Not every guy is going to figure out how to shoot 40% from three.
I just hope the team keeps improving and Miller figures it out and Underwood keeps adjusting.
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They brought Kofi in who was overweight and not even a primary option on his high school team and turned him into a chiseled specimen that was the B1G freshman of the year.
Tripe.
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Tripe.
Short memory these days?
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How many high schools have 35 current or recent NBA players?
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I should have said he wasn’t in near the shape he is now and that he wasn’t one of the primary options on his high school team (which was loaded)
He mostly scored on put backs by being bigger than everyone else and wasn’t usually targeted within the offense.
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It would be hard to avoid an uptick in physical fitness while working daily with a strength & conditioning coach.
But the push out your stomach and frown/ flex & growl routine is not persuasive.
(https://i.ibb.co/vqYrsJr/Kofi-Cockburn-before-and-after-Fletch.png)
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Tripe.
I had to check to make sure JeffFrank had not signed up here.
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I too take subtle bemusement from his culinary endeavors.
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Jeff is just mailing it in these days, of course. I think he peaked with the Thermos of Urine.
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After being exposed at this level, Underwood scrapped his base defensive and offensive schemes and has been experimenting with ways to improve ever since. I suspect he’ll continue to do so. Up until last season it was a revolving door of new bodies coming in and the staff trying to find a way to mold them into some form of competitive team.
In three seasons we went from complete dog shit to a whisker from a B1G title. The biggest part of that was bringing in better talent. I think players are improving.
Frazier is a more complete player, just isn’t taking volume shots like he used to. And we don’t want or need him to. He’s limited by his size in all aspects of the game.
DMW is vastly improved.
Ayo has improved year over year by leaps and bounds.
They brought Kofi in who was overweight and not even a primary option on his high school team and turned him into a chiseled specimen that was the B1G freshman of the year.
Alan Griffin was lost as an Easter egg most of his freshman year and evolved into a key cog in year 2.
Kipper was Kipper. One night he’d look like Jimmy Butler Lite then spend 4 or 5 games in la la land.
I’m not at practice so I can’t say how much is the staff and how much is natural year over year development of the players as they mature. But to say there isn’t improvement seems odd because it’s easily proven with statistics.
I don’t understand how we can give credit to the staff for how much DMW improved his shot but then ask why they aren’t doing the same for Ayo. Even if we assume they only coached DMW and not Ayo to shoot better, you could make the argument that DMW had nowhere to go but up while they didn’t want to break Ayo down and try to rebuild his entire form because frankly he is pretty damned effective as-is. Not every guy is going to figure out how to shoot 40% from three.
I just hope the team keeps improving and Miller figures it out and Underwood keeps adjusting.
We both agree that we want the team to improve and for Underwood to try to keep adjusting and hopefully figuring out what will work.
I will give credit that he did a decent job in second half last year in managing personnel after we were reeling after the MSU beat down.
You have more faith in the idea that he has clear roadmap and working a plan this year. I don't see such a good one this year so far and he arguably has more talent. We certainly have not overachieved or outperformed expectations.
I would hope to think that there is normal development from playing and training 12 months a year in a P5 program for most guys from year to year.
I guess we will just disagree about the level of staff ability to really teach and develop players beyond an average staff.
Sure they have an impact, I just think it is not a strength of his program.
I also think his in game coaching is pretty average.
UW is an average coach. Not terrible, not great.
I am just not a big fan, but want the team to do well and would love for them to get to S16. We should be a 2/3/4/ seed.
Anything short of a S16 will feel like underachieving. After that you need some luck and breaks.
We have a relatively favorable stretch coming up in next 7 games. We should be favored in all of them. We could be 13-3 and ranked probably in Top 10 heading into a gauntlet of tough games.
We should go 6-1 or 7-0 if we are really making progress and they are figuring out how to put these pieces together.
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Nice to see Adam rack up something besides bad fouls last night. Did not shoot well (2/6) but got to the line and the two FGs he made were big threes. Seemed to play pretty smart and solid defense. Something to build from I’d suppose.
It sounds weird, but he just had a different look on his face this last game. Once we started playing decent teams he had a deer in the headlights look. Last night I saw him try on some Trent Frazier and Ayo Dosunmo Determined Face
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If we are blaming the staff for Miller being disappointing do we credit them for Curbelo being better than expected? I always have a hard time figuring out when it’s the staff’s fault a player isn’t playing to our expectations. Particularly freshmen.
I think the staff deserves credit for both. For Curbelo, they deserve credit for finding a guy who is much better than his ranking to come a long way from home to play for their team. For Miller, they deserve credit for getting a highly ranked and clearly talented local kid to pick their team.
FWIW, Miller isn’t really disappointing to me, but I always temper my expectations for freshmen, so maybe that’s why. He is a good player who needs the game to slow down for him a little. Most freshmen go through this. He will be fine.
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Glad to see him knock down some daggers last night. I loved the play where he cut baseline and finished strong at the rim. Hopefully, that gets him going the rest of the year.
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I’ve missed a ton of Illinois games but I have to say that Adam Miller has been....not so good in my viewings
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I’ve missed a ton of Illinois games but I have to say that Adam Miller has been....not so good in my viewings
He really needs to improve his ball handling if he’s gonna improve from just a spot-up shooter. It’s extremely weak and he’s not gonna beat many (if any) people off the dribble. He has a really slow first step it appears as well. I thought he was gonna be a much faster player, much like Ayo. I think a lot of those things will come with time and confidence. Once the game slows down for him a little bit, he should be alright.
Everybody on the team should be dribbling a tennis ball like Curbelo does while balancing one foot on a balancing mat. Great drill to improve your handles. A lot of our players are weak in that area.
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Agree. As great as Ayo is at getting to the rack with right hand, he has limited left and weak handles and poor passer overall.
Miller shooting a little better and got on the floor for a ball last night, but was a non factor otherwise.
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I’ll say again that players with his ranking typically perform similarly to what we’ve seen from Miller. As we should have expected, he appears to be a high quality multi year foundational piece but not a big minutes guy on what we’d hoped was a top 5-10 level team.
Problem is we don’t have Griffin and Feliz to allow Adam time him grow into his role and obviously aren’t getting enough from Grandison and Hutcherson either. If the overall personnel and development were where we hoped it would be, Miller would probably be getting 8-10 mpg.
Gotta hope the light bulb really comes on for he and Curbelo if we are going to make any kind of run.
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I’ll say again that players with his ranking typically perform similarly to what we’ve seen from Miller. As we should have expected, he appears to be a high quality multi year foundational piece but not a big minutes guy on what we’d hoped was a top 5-10 level team.
Problem is we don’t have Griffin and Feliz to allow Adam time him grow into his role and obviously aren’t getting enough from Grandison and Hutcherson either. If the overall personnel and development were where we hoped it would be, Miller would probably be getting 8-10 mpg.
Gotta hope the light bulb really comes on for he and Curbelo if we are going to make any kind of run.
The 9 ppg is not bad overall. But he doesn't contribute much else at all.
We are much better with Curbelo on the floor. The light has been on for Curbelo. Averaging over 6 APG and TOs are down to 2 a game in BIG play. He just needs to shoot a little better. At 48% overall it isn't bad.
Agree, that cuttign Miller's minutes may be a key to us getting better as a team. One of Grandison or Hawkins does need to step up for a lot of reasons. We are too small.
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Seems like Hawkins is ready to be that guy but he’s very clearly in the doghouse right now. Hopefully this gets cleared up soon and he sees more minutes. Grandison just isn’t athletic or quick enough to be the guy we need.
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Why do you think he's in the doghouse?
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Seems like Hawkins is ready to be that guy but he’s very clearly in the doghouse right now. Hopefully this gets cleared up soon and he sees more minutes. Grandison just isn’t athletic or quick enough to be the guy we need.
I like Hawkins a lot. He reacts very quickly on defense and has a great knack at just being in the right place at the right time during key moments of games. It would be interesting to see the +/- for this season when he has been on the floor.
Miller needs to add a lot of muscle. Also plays the game on his heels instead of his toes. Game is just moving to fast for him. I'm not really as concerned about it as maybe some are. The competition level has as much to do that than anything else, but like many have already stated here we need him to get a little better by seasons end.
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Why do you think he's in the doghouse?
His minutes have been productive and we desperately need productive minutes from his position, then all of a sudden he has back to back DNP games in our blowout of PSU and win against IU.
The last couple games he has come in and done well, gotten a quick hook and wasn’t seen again.
He had 5/2/1 in 5 mins and was +11 when in the game against Purdue. Then he gets 3 mins against NU in a blowout.
Comes in against MD and gets a bucket, a steal, and a board in 2 minutes, then never saw the floor again.
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Hawkins still seems a little uncomfortable with the ball in his hands. Most of the best things he has done came when someone else had the ball. I would like to see him get more PT though.
I think Grandison has had some good moments too, but it’s hard to have both him and Damonte out there at the same time. Neither handles the ball or creates their own offense that well.
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Hawkins and Grandison have both done fairly well when they’ve been out there. We need some more depth and I think they need more PT. Especially with their length. All this talk about BVV returning from injury....who cares, he doesn’t see any PT anyways, so what’s the big deal?! I’d like to see him get a shot or somebody for that matter. We need to give some of our guys a little rest and see a little more of what we have in these three players imo.
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His minutes have been productive and we desperately need productive minutes from his position, then all of a sudden he has back to back DNP games in our blowout of PSU and win against IU.
The last couple games he has come in and done well, gotten a quick hook and wasn’t seen again.
He had 5/2/1 in 5 mins and was +11 when in the game against Purdue. Then he gets 3 mins against NU in a blowout.
Comes in against MD and gets a bucket, a steal, and a board in 2 minutes, then never saw the floor again.
Eh, BU really likes restacking his depth chart to meet what the other team has, and his substitution patterns aren't science.
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Kids a freshman cur him some slack. Hawkin should play more from the little I saw of him
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Kids a freshman cur him some slack. Hawkin should play more from the little I saw of him
Well, he is a Top 30 player and did give himself a nickname.
Honestly, the inability to demonstrate much beyond hitting a few threes is surprising.
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I too regard self-nicknaming with suspicion.
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I too regard self-nicknaming with suspicion.
Like that poster who called himself JeffFrank....
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Like that poster who called himself JeffFrank....
Oh I remember him! That’s Tempo’s boyfriend, right?! Shared the bloomin’ onion together?!
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Jeff has his heart in the right place, but the whole look at Chester look at Dee bit is GOAT level stuff. Not even The Kid projecting 3-star WR recruits as future 1st rounders could get in that rarefied air.
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Jeff has been here, right? Am I imagining that?
Anyway, you can keep up with his five TVs, culinary vomit pics & general misogyny on The Deuce if you're interested.
Once Covid is over, there will likely be links to stoner band board recordings, too.