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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: ILLINICHIEF on March 13, 2026, 08:56:03 AM
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This will be a lot tougher than we wanted I believe....their 2 starting guards offensively are probably the best in conference/country.
If Crocker and staff haven't figured a way to keep them from the paint, AND also contend the 3....these 2 could get 60 on their own. Yesterday they got 57 pts on 39 attempts, 11-18 from 3. They are also on a heater right now, and well, easily said we are not so much.
Injuries, flu, etc lets hope it all has went away finally and our team is REALLY ready to make that push in the Tourney we all want.
Illini 89 ( ;D) - Wisky 81 but it won't be easy. Take the over but not the spread.
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Boswell picks up 2 fouls one minute into the game. Stupid. Just stupid.
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He gave his minutes to that #2 guy. 10 pts, 5 rbs, a steal and a block.
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I hope we just keep chucking 3s. Do the analytics calculate that there will be misses?
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36-30 good guys at half. I’ll take it…
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Would have loved a better finish to the half after we got up 15.
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I'll take the finish, but man the road to get there was rough....23-3 vs a combined 25-4 I think by Wisky.....that rough.
Boswell keeps himself and Boyd in check, keep hedging on everything Blackwell wants to do.....2nd Half, I would look to see Boyd try to take over....would like to run more in the 2nd half as well, Wisky got jelly legs I am sure....take advantage. BU is always talking about advantages....that is one.
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I hope we just keep chucking 3s. Do the analytics calculate that there will be misses?
We're 6-18 from 3. 15-20 from 2.
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Drive it at Blackwell and Boyd. That’s all they got…
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Finish them
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Fuck these refs too…
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unhappy
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We are doing a great job of not panicking for blowing a 15 point lead....LOL.
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Looks like another first weekend exit
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Looks like another first weekend exit
I'll await until we start bricking free shots next week to say that.
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Boyd and Blackwell with 56 points. Good thing the best NCAA teams that will be in TOTTM don't have guards as good as Wisconsin's.
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Nick Boyd can’t get the fuck out of college soon enough.
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Free shots don't matter in March!
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Boyd isn't always going to get those calls.
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Boyd isn't always going to get those calls.
He only has a few more weeks left in college.....
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We have had 2 missed 1-and-1's. Just for reference 3 years from now.
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Great OT. Our specialty
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We have had 2 missed 1-and-1's. Just for reference 3 years from now.
😂😂😂
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easy top say, but damn, the same ole same ole.....just stop the penetration and make them beat you from 3....the ILLINI can't seem to figure that out.
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Great OT. Our specialty
Good thing Wisconsin played yesterday and we did not!
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Remind me what is the ILLINI OT record this year again?
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Guards just go right around our guys
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Free shots!
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FREE SHOTS!
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Dagger
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He was fouled!
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This is laughable.
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This is laughable.
And yet no one is laughing.
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And yet no one is laughing.
Because Underachiever's dick is in their mouths?
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Always good to stumble into the tournament
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And yet no one is laughing.
And apparently free shots do matter.
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Add this one to the list of games blown due to crucial missed free shots.
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And apparently free shots do matter.
The funniest part of all of this is that literally no one ever said they didn’t.
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The funniest part of all of this is that literally no one ever said they didn’t.
Except you.
Lie, lie, lie. Same coin, different sides.
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What a stupid game. Bad refs, bad offense, lost our defensive legs mid-way through the 2nd half. Pathetic and playing ourselves down the s-curve.
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Except you.
Lie, lie, lie. Same coin, different sides.
Total bullshit, and you know it. A PAStrawman masterpiece.
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We officially are no longer a Final Four threat, maybe never were....we just cannot do the simple things, stop penetration, force turnovers, make free throws for crying out loud....
Really thought with some of the wins, runs, etc this year, we had a solid chance.....but yet another game where we let the other team get a first...........SINCE 1968 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD...........Blackwell/Boyd......literally the ONLY 2 players to beat us and against 5 they did just that.
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Add this one to the list of games blown due to crucial missed free shots.
And 3s. We up about 10, missed 2 from 3, Wagler lost the ball and we never recovered
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And 3s. We up about 10, missed 2 from 3, Wagler lost the ball and we never recovered
Those missed one and ones were huge.
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What a stupid game. Bad refs, bad offense, lost our defensive legs mid-way through the 2nd half. Pathetic and playing ourselves down the s-curve.
Bad refs were on both sides, Wisky just has experienced crafty guards....never underestimate the level of their sneakiness. Our offense is just not consistant anymore, and we JUST didn't have any defenseive legs/arms/etc in the entire game.
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Total bullshit, and you know it. A PAStrawman masterpiece.
Nope. You said it and now are backing away.
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Wisconsin biffing free shots!
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Adios 2 seed! Way to go Underachiever!
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Can we please move up March and April to say November and December? This team just isn't the same one that seemed to be a juggernaut earlier in the year. What's going to be our ROI on this squad? (I didn't actually donate to the cause btw...LOL)
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We officially are no longer a Final Four threat, maybe never were....we just cannot do the simple things, stop penetration, force turnovers, make free throws for crying out loud....
Really thought with some of the wins, runs, etc this year, we had a solid chance.....but yet another game where we let the other team get a first...........SINCE 1968 FOR CRYING OUT LOUD...........Blackwell/Boyd......literally the ONLY 2 players to beat us and against 5 they did just that.
We’re pretty questionable for the S16 the way we’ve played the last few weeks.
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69..............just gonna leave that here
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We’re pretty questionable for the S16 the way we’ve played the last few weeks.
That's a stretch honestly.
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Nope. You said it and now are backing away.
What I said is that I wouldn’t get worked up about a few extra missed FTs (with freshman contributing to that) in a 30 point win in early November; and you turned that into a 3 year meme. I never said “freeshots don’t matter,” and I’d bet my kid’s life on it.
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What I said is that I wouldn’t get worked up about a few extra missed FTs (with freshman contributing to that) in a 30 point win in early November; and you turned that into a 3 year meme. I never said “freeshots don’t matter,” and I’d bet my kid’s life on it.
Are they adopted?
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4-5 to finish and 0-4 in OT. We've got a week to find some moxie.
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What I said is that I wouldn’t get worked up about a few extra missed FTs (with freshman contributing to that) in a 30 point win in early November; and you turned that into a 3 year meme. I never said “freeshots don’t matter,” and I’d bet my kid’s life on it.
SMDH
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4-5 to finish and 0-4 in OT. We've got a week to find some moxie.
I do not know how moxie fits into the analytics.
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Underwood's record in big-time games is... not ideal.
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SMDH
That’s EXACTLY what happened.
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Underwood's record in big-time games is... not ideal.
People here are just happy there are big games. Winning them is apparently irrelevant.
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Two guys! TWO FUCKING GUYS!!! Beat our fucking brains in all game.
15 point lead. Mismatches all over the court. I know. Let’s get away from that. Let’s have all our guys, including both of our 7 footers, camped out behind the three point line and have them chuck and pray for the offensive rebounds (which btw we didn’t get) to fall into our laps.
Classic Underwood loss.
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That’s EXACTLY what happened.
Sad....
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Underwood's record in big-time games is... not ideal.
The other teams would argue with you
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Uncalled trip was the turning point..
The "instead of commenting on that, let’s just move on" phantom foul call summarized the game.
Wisconsin got a few bad calls, but there was no equivalency.
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Uncalled trip was the turning point..
The "instead of commenting on that, let’s just move on" phantom foul call summarized the game.
Wisconsin got a few bad calls, but there was no equivalency.
Officiating was garbage but make no mistake we did this to ourselves. Officiating didn’t cause us to blow multiple double digit leads, let Boyd and Blackwell fuck us in the ass all by themselves no lube, miss free shots, not secure rebounds or build a mansion with our three point bricks. Those were all us. And it’s a recipe for another short stay in the TOTTM.
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Yeah, I think they are vulnerable after first game no matter who they play.
Cannot stop the ball and don't get to line enough.
Have to make three ball at high percentage for two weeks to get to FF. Will not likely happen.
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NO ONE should be mentioning ref's except they were horrible both ways.
What cost us the game overall was letting a 24% team from 3 with 41 shots taken, with guards who were 6-20 from 3 penetrate over and over and over....Gard, changed tactics in the 2nd half, BU didn't. Game, Set, Match.
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Two guys! TWO FUCKING GUYS!!! Beat our fucking brains in all game.
Those two were 21-22 on free throws..
Wagler and Andrej were 6-9.
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NO ONE should be mentioning ref's except they were horrible both ways.
What cost us the game overall was letting a 24% team from 3 with 41 shots taken, with guards who were 6-20 from 3 penetrate over and over and over....Gard, changed tactics in the 2nd half, BU didn't. Game, Set, Match.
Those 2 guards shot 22 free throws. Wagler and Andrej shot 9. Sorry. There was no equivalency.
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Those 2 guards shot 22 free throws. Wagler and Andrej shot 9. Sorry. There was no equivalency.
Because they drove to the basket in the 2d half.... Coaching and free shots matter?
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Those 2 guards shot 22 free throws. Wagler and Andrej shot 9. Sorry. There was no equivalency.
Gard told them at the half, quit chuckin 3's and make them Gard ya....maybe our Coach should have tried something like that.....he didn't we chucked 3's.
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Because they drove to the basket in the 2d half.... Coaching and free shots matter?
Wagler and Andrej drove to the basket, but didn't get the same calls.
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I ‘member when Underwood was gonna coach ‘em up.
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Because they drove to the basket in the 2d half.... Coaching and free shots matter?
LOL
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Ben is a terrible man to man defender. Are the twins that bad too? Seems like it's time to go with the twins at same time and have Ben spell them in occasion.
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I ‘member when Underwood was gonna coach ‘em up.
Remember when Mirotic hit an off hand shot and the announcers were praising BU for probably telling them to do that at halftime.
Seems right.
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Gard told them at the half, quit chuckin 3's and make them Gard ya....maybe our Coach should have tried something like that.....he didn't we chucked 3's.
They were 10-41 from three. We were 9-31. We were 26-39 from 2. They were 18-25
Andrej and Wagler combined for 31 shots. 8 were threes. Their 2 hot shots took 37, 20 were threes..
The difference was free throws.
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Custard’s 9 thoughts
Wisconsin is a tough matchup for us
FTs killed us again
Refs rode to the gym in a clown car. Absolutely abysmal on both ends but Ray is right, there was no equivalency.
Got away from what was working on O and never went back it. No motion no ball movement.
Rebound? What’s that?
Tomi is broken
Unforced errors
Played not to lose
Keaton should have passed it to Mirk at the end
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Bad reffing bad shooting bad defense, oh well, lets make some noise in march
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This game makes me really nervous that I team I really grew to like may only have two games left in them. Have to advance past next weekend.
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Bad reffing bad shooting bad defense, oh well, lets make some noise in march
Hopefully the next few days off will help.
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Custard’s 9 thoughts
Wisconsin is a tough matchup for us
FTs killed us again
Refs rode to the gym in a clown car. Absolutely abysmal on both ends but Ray is right, there was no equivalency.
Got away from what was working on O and never went back it. No motion no ball movement.
Rebound? What’s that?
Tomi is broken
Unforced errors
Played not to lose
Keaton should have passed it to Mirk at the end
Well said. I agree
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Custard’s 9 thoughts
Wisconsin is a tough matchup for us
FTs killed us again
Refs rode to the gym in a clown car. Absolutely abysmal on both ends but Ray is right, there was no equivalency.
Got away from what was working on O and never went back it. No motion no ball movement.
Rebound? What’s that?
Tomi is broken
Unforced errors
Played not to lose
Keaton should have passed it to Mirk at the end
Well done, as usual, Harv!
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We got outrebounded and their leading rebounder didn't play.
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The difference was free throws.
No offense, but IF you think this game's difference was free throws, you may want to watch it again. Maybe the final score, but the difference was Boswell flexed, Boyd punched back so to speak, and we had no conserted effort to play defense again 2 players....this was just a proverbial shittin the bed. AT the wrong time of the year..................AGAIN.
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Summary
This was Custard’s Fault
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Summary
This was Custard’s Fault
Isn’t it about time for your appointment at the bath house? Get to peddlin’, no rain checks!
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Isn’t it about time for your appointment at the bath house? Get to peddlin’, no rain checks!
Sorry I’m keeping you waiting …
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I think he said it's the coaches job to get them ready to play.
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This team is a lot like the high scoring Iowa teams under Fran.
Can really put up some points but lacks some toughness and can't guard quite well enough to win games down the stretch.
Roster construction has been a chronic issue with Underwood no matter who the assistants are.
There is little they can do to correct this for this season.
Have to hope the offense carries them.
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Summary
This was Custard’s Fault
This seems the most logical conclusion.
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If I were ever at risk of a gambling addiction, these last two illini teams cured it.
I don't even want to watch.
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We'll play 1 game in 11 or 12 days thanks to scheduling and watching a dude on the other team go for a career high in that 1 game.
Not ideal.
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https://www.buckys5thquarter.com/wisconsin-badgers-mens-basketball/89148/wisconsin-badgers-basketball-news-everything-greg-gard-said-win-illinois-fighting-illini-big-ten-tournament
Gard after the game summation: We have 2 really good guards. LOL, don't need the rest of this, and I would suspect Wisky may go farther than the ILLINI in the tourney due to this fact alone.
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We'll play 1 game in 11 or 12 days thanks to scheduling and watching a dude on the other team go for a career high in that 1 game.
Not ideal.
Maybe Wagler will then have the legs to score 40 a night in TOTTM.
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Maybe Wagler will then have the legs to score 40 a night in TOTTM.
Kind of sad that we ALL thought man what a great find....AND Keaton Wagler was just that. The reality thought which most of us never live in (called orange colored glasses) is that we really thought we had a legit chance to go far with this lineup.
We didn't figure out till too late, that we are slow, we HAVE to shoot a high % from 3 pt land, some would say an ELITE level and we cannot stop good experienced lead guards. When it comes to March/April, the teams with the most talent and more importantly the ELITE guards, usually win out. We have talent, not ELITE, and yes we may very well need Keaton to score 30-40 each night for us to advance. If he does, we go far, and he moves up the draft board even higher..........it isn't going to happen, the 18 yr old legs have kicked in, this isn't Shawnee Mission any longer, and he got BEAT up this year.
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Funny thing is - we went 0-4 in overtime games. Make a few free throws and we win all four and we don’t make this analysis
This team has as good a chance for the elite 8 as the squad that lost to UConn. Well, not in retrospect because that team actually did it - but we’re probably in an equivalent position going in
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Funny thing is - we went 0-4 in overtime games. Make a few free throws and we win all four and we don’t make this analysis
This team has as good a chance for the elite 8 as the squad that lost to UConn. Well, not in retrospect because that team actually did it - but we’re probably in an equivalent position going in
So you are saying there's a chance we can give up another 30-0 run in rhe Elite 8?
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So you are saying there's a chance we can give up another 30-0 run in rhe Elite 8?
Would be on brand