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General Category => The Deuce => Topic started by: Custard on December 02, 2025, 11:35:46 AM
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The once proud state has turned into a furious dumpster fire under Tempo’s guy Walz. Aww, shucks!
Wondering if Mn can post some news from the fish wrap about all the scandals, tax payer money stolen, and perhaps even rogue white liberal female (the WORST) judges overturning unanimous jury convictions.
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The once proud state has turned into a furious dumpster fire under Tempo’s guy Walz. Aww, shucks!
Wondering if Mn can post some news from the fish wrap about all the scandals, tax payer money stolen, and perhaps even rogue white liberal female (the WORST) judges overturning unanimous jury convictions.
I've been told here that nobody cares.
Oh, and there won't be any refunds to the taxpayers who funded this scam while the 2024 Democrat party VP choice and his AG pretended that there was nothing to see.
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it's too fucking cold or too fucking hot with too many fucking mosquitos
QED
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https://www.facebook.com/share/r/1AKT3TFppv/
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I've been told here that nobody cares.
Oh, and there won't be any refunds to the taxpayers who funded this scam while the 2024 Democrat party VP choice and his AG pretended that there was nothing to see.
Yes when something is undeniably a Democrat led dumpster fire, just shift the conversation to “don’t care, mosquitoes, 432hz” 😬
Oh well, at least the farm economy barometer is way up! Purdue surveys lots of actual farmers every single year, not just the one loser CNN found in South Dakota that couldn’t sell his beans.
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Imagine what they think of JJ McCarthy!
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Yes when something is undeniably a Democrat led dumpster fire, just shift the conversation to “don’t care, mosquitoes, 432hz” 😬
Oh well, at least the farm economy barometer is way up! Purdue surveys lots of actual farmers every single year, not just the one loser CNN found in South Dakota that couldn’t sell his beans.
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Did they ask farmers about cash flow?
https://www.agweb.com/news/policy/ag-economy/wheres-money-going-come-ask-farmers-facing-cash-flow-crisis
Thanks Trump.
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Yes when something is undeniably a Democrat led dumpster fire, just shift the conversation to “don’t care, mosquitoes, 432hz” 😬
Oh well, at least the farm economy barometer is way up! Purdue surveys lots of actual farmers every single year, not just the one loser CNN found in South Dakota that couldn’t sell his beans.
Not a shift. I just actually don't care.
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Is this a PAMan approved source?
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Is this a PAMan approved source?
They're just a bunch of DHS employees.
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They're just a bunch of DHS employees.
Does that mean they are in the Epstein files, or guilty of war crimes. Hard to keep track.
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Did they ask farmers about cash flow?
https://www.agweb.com/news/policy/ag-economy/wheres-money-going-come-ask-farmers-facing-cash-flow-crisis
Thanks Trump.
Haha I personally know Sherman Newlin. I brought a sack of delicious cheeseburgers from the Moonlight General Store to his farm a few years back and had lunch in his shop with his wife and hired man. I had an attractive intern that summer and the hired man said some creepy shit to her. That was fun.
Cash flow was shit starting in late 2023 when the markets started to crater.
Anyways prices are better but input costs remain high, most farmers I know are cutting back on synthetic fertilizer this year and using products like ours that give them the same results at much lower use rates and cost. Most farmers typically over apply which is why we have nutrient runoff issues. This will be good for the environment and their bottom line. Thanks Trump!
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Not a shift. I just actually don't care.
Makes sense. Democrats ruin a state, Murph doesn’t care. Hurricane ruin a state, Murph blames the Republican governor.
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I read that the number of DHS employees was 480.
And be careful when you're out driving around. You just never know when a semi driver who can't read a lick of English may jackknife his/her rig in front of you.
I may have made a charitable contribution to Al-Shabaab. 8)🥷 ;D
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Custard and Murph both making big money off Trump! Trump bringing people together....
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I brought a sack of delicious cheeseburgers from the Moonlight General Store to his farm a few years back and had lunch in his shop with his wife and hired man.
Is that what the Gen Z call it? Some sort of code? "had lunch"?
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Makes sense. Democrats ruin a state, Murph doesn’t care. Hurricane ruin a state, Murph blames the Republican governor.
Minnesota was ruined by the Norwegians. Bunch of fucking commies.
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I read that the number of DHS employees was 480.
And be careful when you're out driving around. You just never know when a semi driver who can't read a lick of English may jackknife his/her rig in front of you.
While Trump does scare me, and it's bad that the President of the United States can't read, that's only half because of his poor education, mostly it's because he can't see anymore. But it's not a problem in this case, he never learned to drive and would not know how to start the truck.
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Yes when something is undeniably a Democrat led dumpster fire, just shift the conversation to “don’t care, mosquitoes, 432hz” 😬
This is a fairly typical local level.scandal. The problem being a lack of oversight, it is a bipartisan issue.
Corrupt local Republican officials talk about law enforcement and family values. Corrupt local Democrats talk about healthcare and education.
Republicans currently control the small municipalities and rural areas, while Democrats hold sway big cities and urban counties.
I read that Minnesota law made local oversight difficult.
In the Federalist; Madison, Hamilton, And Jay talk about preventing tyranny by the central government via Separation of Powers and Checks and Balances. Note the Unitary executive concept threatens that, but is another issue.
The problem of local corruption is dealt with via Federalism itself, the shared power between the federal and state government. Basically, people are people. It's going to happen. Between the State and Feds, hopefully it gets exposed.
Raising the vibes helps
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This is a fairly typical local level.scandal. The problem being a lack of oversight, it is a bipartisan issue.
Corrupt local Republican officials talk about law enforcement and family values. Corrupt local Democrats talk about healthcare and education.
Republicans currently control the small municipalities and rural areas, while Democrats hold sway big cities and urban counties.
I read that Minnesota law made local oversight difficult.
In the Federalist; Madison, Hamilton, And Jay talk about preventing tyranny by the central government via Separation of Powers and Checks and Balances. Note the Unitary executive concept threatens that, but is another issue.
The problem of local corruption is dealt with via Federalism itself, the shared power between the federal and state government. Basically, people are people. It's going to happen. Between the State and Feds, hopefully it gets exposed.
Raising the vibes helps
That's a nice yarn you spun there.
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That's a nice yarn you spun there.
"a long or rambling story, especially one that is implausible."
Nice half cocked attempt at an insult.
Have you ever read the Federalist Papers?
Do you consider them yarns?
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There’s an ongoing public debate about how much Tim Walz — governor of Minnesota — knew about alleged fraud by parts of the Somali community and broader welfare-/aid-program fraud, and what he did once he was aware. Here’s what is known, alleged, or disputed as of now.
✅ What we do know — there were widespread fraud allegations in Minnesota’s welfare/aid programs
Over the past few years, investigators say there have been major fraud schemes involving Medicaid, housing-stabilization services, child-nutrition programs, and bogus “autism centers.”
One of the most publicized schemes involved a nonprofit called Feeding Our Future, which allegedly submitted false claims for meals provided (or claimed to have provided) to children — leading to hundreds of millions of dollars in reimbursements based on bogus data.
As of 2025, dozens of individuals have been charged and many convicted in connection with these fraud cases.
So — there was real, verifiable misuse of aid programs and fraud affecting state and federal funds under programs administered in Minnesota.
👀 What we know Walz says about it (his public stance)
When pressed publicly (e.g., on “Meet the Press”), Walz said: “If you’re committing fraud, … no matter where you come from, what you look like, what you believe, you are going to go to jail.”
He also has argued that the fraud was not limited to any single community, noting Minnesota’s overall generosity and prosperity tends to “attract criminals.”
On record, Walz has resisted taking what critics call “ultimate responsibility” for the systemic failures — instead emphasizing that enforcement and prosecutions have been carried out by federal authorities.
⚠️ Allegations that Walz knew — and ignored or suppressed warnings
A group claiming to be more than 400 employees from the Minnesota Department of Human Services (DHS) says that they alerted Walz — and his administration — early on about suspected fraud, but that no meaningful action was taken. They also accuse the administration of retaliating against whistleblowers.
According to those staffers, the state “disempowered” oversight — specifically the Office of the Legislative Auditor — which allowed fraudulent activity to continue unchecked.
Some commentary and recent opinion pieces argue that the fraud happened “in plain sight.” The rapid increase in certain welfare-funded services (for example, the dramatic rise in “autism centers” and their funding) — which seems implausible if legitimate — are cited as evidence that red flags were obvious long before government acted.
🧾 What is still uncertain or disputed
It is not proven that Walz personally knew the full extent of the fraud — or exactly when he learned it. The claims largely come from whistleblowers who say they reported concerns, but the state agency involved has disputed that the group speaking out on X (formerly Twitter) represents official DHS staff.
The scale and mechanisms of the misconduct are under investigation, especially for allegations that some funds were sent overseas or linked to extremist organizations such as Al-Shabaab. Some law-enforcement sources allege such links, but it’s unclear what has been legally established.
Critics argue that even if Walz was not personally involved, as governor overseeing the state’s welfare systems — including appointing agency heads and shaping oversight policies — he bears political responsibility. Supporters say enforcement was handled by independent agencies and federal prosecutors, not by state leadership directly.
🧑💼 So — did Walz know about the fraud? The answer is: probably yes, at least to some extent — but it’s unclear how much he knew, how early, and whether he understood the full scope.
There are credible claims from DHS-associated whistleblowers that they alerted state leadership about fraud early, and a growing body of public reporting showing dramatic anomalies in welfare funding — money flows that look suspicious even on their face.
At the same time, there is no unambiguous public record confirming that Walz personally reviewed or acted on those warnings before federal prosecutions began.
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There’s an ongoing public debate about how much Tim Walz — governor of Minnesota — knew about alleged fraud by parts of the Somali community and broader welfare-/aid-program fraud, and what he did once he was aware. Here’s what is known, alleged, or disputed as of now.
✅ What we do know — there were widespread fraud allegations in Minnesota’s welfare/aid programs
Over the past few years, investigators say there have been major fraud schemes involving Medicaid, housing-stabilization services, child-nutrition programs, and bogus “autism centers.”
One of the most publicized schemes involved a nonprofit called Feeding Our Future, which allegedly submitted false claims for meals provided (or claimed to have provided) to children — leading to hundreds of millions of dollars in reimbursements based on bogus data.
As of 2025, dozens of individuals have been charged and many convicted in connection with these fraud cases.
So — there was real, verifiable misuse of aid programs and fraud affecting state and federal funds under programs administered in Minnesota.
👀 What we know Walz says about it (his public stance)
When pressed publicly (e.g., on “Meet the Press”), Walz said: “If you’re committing fraud, … no matter where you come from, what you look like, what you believe, you are going to go to jail.”
He also has argued that the fraud was not limited to any single community, noting Minnesota’s overall generosity and prosperity tends to “attract criminals.”
On record, Walz has resisted taking what critics call “ultimate responsibility” for the systemic failures — instead emphasizing that enforcement and prosecutions have been carried out by federal authorities.
⚠️ Allegations that Walz knew — and ignored or suppressed warnings
A group claiming to be more than 400 employees from the Minnesota Department of Human Services (DHS) says that they alerted Walz — and his administration — early on about suspected fraud, but that no meaningful action was taken. They also accuse the administration of retaliating against whistleblowers.
According to those staffers, the state “disempowered” oversight — specifically the Office of the Legislative Auditor — which allowed fraudulent activity to continue unchecked.
Some commentary and recent opinion pieces argue that the fraud happened “in plain sight.” The rapid increase in certain welfare-funded services (for example, the dramatic rise in “autism centers” and their funding) — which seems implausible if legitimate — are cited as evidence that red flags were obvious long before government acted.
🧾 What is still uncertain or disputed
It is not proven that Walz personally knew the full extent of the fraud — or exactly when he learned it. The claims largely come from whistleblowers who say they reported concerns, but the state agency involved has disputed that the group speaking out on X (formerly Twitter) represents official DHS staff.
The scale and mechanisms of the misconduct are under investigation, especially for allegations that some funds were sent overseas or linked to extremist organizations such as Al-Shabaab. Some law-enforcement sources allege such links, but it’s unclear what has been legally established.
Critics argue that even if Walz was not personally involved, as governor overseeing the state’s welfare systems — including appointing agency heads and shaping oversight policies — he bears political responsibility. Supporters say enforcement was handled by independent agencies and federal prosecutors, not by state leadership directly.
🧑💼 So — did Walz know about the fraud? The answer is: probably yes, at least to some extent — but it’s unclear how much he knew, how early, and whether he understood the full scope.
There are credible claims from DHS-associated whistleblowers that they alerted state leadership about fraud early, and a growing body of public reporting showing dramatic anomalies in welfare funding — money flows that look suspicious even on their face.
At the same time, there is no unambiguous public record confirming that Walz personally reviewed or acted on those warnings before federal prosecutions began.
Good to see you Hal. Thanks for clearing the air about WTF is wrong with Minnesota!
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In Nov of 2020 Feeding Our Future sued the Mn Dept of Ed, who the Mn AG's office would represent, over their sites not being approved.
The suit was settled the following month and the money followed.
In March 2021 the Dept of Ed stopped payments due to "serious deficiencies". Feeding Our Future sued. The suit was settled the following month and the money followed.
In Dec 2021 AG Ellison had a 54 minute meeting with a few people, including Feeding Our Future. He mentions the heat he is getting from agencies. Agencies that he represents.
His campaign allegedly received contributions from 4 individuals the following month.
In Jan 2022 the feds raided Feeding Our Future. Charges were filed for the first 47 in Sept 2022.
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Gov Lindell is sure to fix this!
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3 clips from the 54 minute audio.
The Twotter feed has links to the audio for the clips and a link to the full audio.
Jodi Harpstead was the DHS Commissioner. She resigned early this year. Prior to her 2019 appointment she had been CEO and President of Lutheran Social Services of Minnesota, not that there's anything wrong with Lutherans.
Harpstead apparently understands how the R card works.
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The usual suspects here, “just don’t care” or it “minor…”
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So the Vikings, after watching Max Brosmer throw 4 picks and 0 touchdowns, had Desmond Ridder on their practice squad and cut him.
How bad must that mother fucker be, lol. I mean, I feel kinda bad for the Vikings. They are a masterclass in slamming windows shut lol
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The usual suspects here, “just don’t care” or it “minor…”
Relax, we’re not in George Ryan or even Otto Kerner territory yet. I like Walz. He seems like a decent guy, but the reported fraud occurred under his watch. The buck stops with him.
Announcing his re-election bid in September was not a good move for Walz. His administration faces "Walz Fatigue," and third terms rarely succeed for governors. He should have provided an opportunity for a new group of Democratic candidates to emerge. Maybe even Amy Klobuchar would consider running.
Now you would think Walz’s problems would be a great opportunity for Republicans. The good news for Dems is that the RWNJs have taken over the state party political apparatus. That means some crackpot like Scott Jensen would be nominated again. He performed well in rural regions, but his results declined in the more densely populated suburban and urban locations.
Like Illinois, a Republican can win statewide in Minnesota, but they must be moderate, non-threatening and believe in effective government (at least on the face of it). The last time a Republican won a statewide office in Minnesota was 2006, when Tim Pawlenty was re-elected governor. He was often described as the “friendly suburban Republican.”
With someone like Pawlenty leading, Republicans would have a shot at reclaiming the governor’s office. But even he acknowledges he wouldn’t receive the party’s endorsement today.
https://www.fox9.com/news/future-minnesota-republican-party-future-tim-pawlenty
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Should Mn from IlliniHQ2 move out of Minnesota?
That’s really a question only Mn can answer — but here are a few angles you can consider when talking about it on IlliniHQ2 or thinking it through yourself:
1. Why would Mn want to move?
Weather? Minnesota winters are no joke.
Job or lifestyle changes? Maybe there’s a pull toward Illinois or somewhere warmer.
Wanting to be closer to Illini country? Some Illini fans feel the gravitational pull of Champaign-Urbana eventually.
2. Why not move?
Cost of living in Minnesota can be better than in many other states.
Quality of life is high in a lot of Minnesota communities.
If he’s already established there — job, family, etc. — uprooting might not make sense.
3. The fun message-board answer
If he’s complaining nonstop about the cold, the Vikings, or being surrounded by Gophers fans… then yes, maybe it’s time for him to head south to Illini territory and live among civilized people.
Bottom line
Mn should move only if it improves his life — not just because the board wants to roast him about living in Minnesota.
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Should Mn from IlliniHQ2 move out of Minnesota?
That’s really a question only Mn can answer — but here are a few angles you can consider when talking about it on IlliniHQ2 or thinking it through yourself:
1. Why would Mn want to move?
Weather? Minnesota winters are no joke.
Job or lifestyle changes? Maybe there’s a pull toward Illinois or somewhere warmer.
Wanting to be closer to Illini country? Some Illini fans feel the gravitational pull of Champaign-Urbana eventually.
2. Why not move?
Cost of living in Minnesota can be better than in many other states.
Quality of life is high in a lot of Minnesota communities.
If he’s already established there — job, family, etc. — uprooting might not make sense.
3. The fun message-board answer
If he’s complaining nonstop about the cold, the Vikings, or being surrounded by Gophers fans… then yes, maybe it’s time for him to head south to Illini territory and live among civilized people.
Bottom line
Mn should move only if it improves his life — not just because the board wants to roast him about living in Minnesota.
Thanks, Hal.
I left the civilized people years ago. And I ain't moving.
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Relax, we’re not in George Ryan or even Otto Kerner territory yet. I like Walz. He seems like a decent guy, but the reported fraud occurred under his watch. The buck stops with him.
Trump seems like a decent guy, but the Chinese released COVID upon the world under his watch. The buck stops with him.
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Should Mn from IlliniHQ2 move out of Minnesota?
Mn is straight MAGA. In MAGA - suffering is a feature, not a bug. People are born to suffer. Without suffering, how can we find eternal grace?
Nevermind that the entire arc of humanity has been about making life easier for humans, not harder. The mythology of suffering prevails.
So yes, he should stay in Minnesota, and suffer. It is the path to redemption. Let those pagan Californians hang out on the mosquito free beaches in the sunshine, never having to make "rain dates" for summer events, etc... They will rot in hell for their easy lifestyle.
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Who had it on their Bingo card that Ilhan Omar would sponsor the legislation, that she now says didn't have the necessary guardrails, that would allow for the Feeding Our Future fraud ?
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Hey Hal9000, what can you tell us about the folks who looted Feeding Our Future?
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Hey Hal9000, what can you tell us about the folks who looted Feeding Our Future?
I think you meant to ask about the Feeding Our Future folks who looted the taxpayers.
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I think you meant to ask about the Feeding Our Future folks who looted the taxpayers.
Yeah, that
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Who had it on their Bingo card that Ilhan Omar would sponsor the legislation, that she now says didn't have the necessary guardrails, that would allow for the Feeding Our Future fraud ?
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Necessary guardrails? She was referring to the actions of the state education department, not the law itself.
The recent report from the MN Office of the Legislative Auditor found that the education department failed to act on warning signs of fraud at Feeding Our Future, failed to exercise its authority to hold the nonprofit accountable to program requirements and was ill-prepared to respond to the issues it encountered with Feeding Our Future.
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Love how the white liberal Aimee lady played the race card and everyone got afraid to continue investigating. Who could have ever seen the whole “minorities can’t be held accountable for anything” culture backfiring?
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Necessary guardrails? She was referring to the actions of the state education department, not the law itself.
The recent report from the MN Office of the Legislative Auditor found that the education department failed to act on warning signs of fraud at Feeding Our Future, failed to exercise its authority to hold the nonprofit accountable to program requirements and was ill-prepared to respond to the issues it encountered with Feeding Our Future.
Walz knew about the fraud. Guardrails weren't put up. The issue was suppressed.
And Omar knew about previous social services fraud from 2018.
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Walz knew about the fraud. Guardrails weren't put up. The issue was suppressed.
And Omar knew about previous social services fraud from 2018.
Thank you for confirming the point I made. The legislative auditor’s report clearly identifies where the guardrails were lacking. Now it's time to act.
Walz should take full responsibility and replace the education department director and meals program manager. The legislature should appoint an independent expert or panel to investigate and make recommendations for improving program oversight and enforcement.
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Thank you for confirming the point I made. The legislative auditor’s report clearly identifies where the guardrails were lacking. Now it's time to act.
Walz should take full responsibility and replace the education department director and meals program manager. The legislature should appoint an independent expert or panel to investigate and make recommendations for improving program oversight and enforcement.
Walz knew about it and suppressed it. Nobody is getting a refund.
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Walz knew about it and suppressed it. Nobody is getting a refund.
Nobody is expecting a refund.
The decision about Walz's future rests with the voters, but the fraud claims have seriously damaged his reputation. I think he should retire after his current term.
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https://cis.org/Report/Somali-Immigrants-Minnesota
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Oh nice. So this group presents raw data, factual or not, with zero statistics shown in the "graph". I mean, the y axis isn't even labeled.
This is where Trumpers can be duped. They don't know what they're looking at. Yet they "do their own research."
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Hopefully it wasn't Mn!
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/ice-american-citizen-somali-minneapolis-1555250
ICE agents wrongfully detained US citizen who 'looked Somali' in Minneapolis, city leaders say
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Oh nice. So this group presents raw data, factual or not, with zero statistics shown in the "graph". I mean, the y axis isn't even labeled.
This is where Trumpers can be duped. They don't know what they're looking at. Yet they "do their own research."
LOL
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Hopefully it wasn't Mn!
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/ice-american-citizen-somali-minneapolis-1555250
ICE agents wrongfully detained US citizen who 'looked Somali' in Minneapolis, city leaders say
Wouldn’t that be something 😂
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Hopefully it wasn't Mn!
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/ice-american-citizen-somali-minneapolis-1555250
ICE agents wrongfully detained US citizen who 'looked Somali' in Minneapolis, city leaders say
They’re breeding with the locals and we can’t tell anymore!!!! 😂🤣
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Hopefully it wasn't Mn!
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/ice-american-citizen-somali-minneapolis-1555250
ICE agents wrongfully detained US citizen who 'looked Somali' in Minneapolis, city leaders say
Nope. I stayed local so I wouldn't get detained and miss hoops vs tOSU.
He turned around. They pushed him inside the restaurant.
He fled.
He was walking down the street.
He was chased.
Sensing trouble, he ducked into a restaurant. They followed him inside.
Pick your news source, I guess.
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More like, whose version of events do you trust and believe? The man who was guilty of entering a restaurant on his lunch break while black? Or ICE; which has lied repeatedly to cover for the aggressive misconduct of their hooded and masked agents.
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Lot of fraud in Minnesota
Minnesota Man Convicted of Faking Purple Heart, Defrauding VA Out of $146,287 | Military.com https://share.google/R8jd01LBkPFRFuipA
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Lot of fraud in Minnesota
Minnesota Man Convicted of Faking Purple Heart, Defrauding VA Out of $146,287 | Military.com https://share.google/R8jd01LBkPFRFuipA
Lock Poor Woman’s Dave Grohl up!
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He was a Michigan man when he started his story that eventually went off the road.
"In reality, Wicker, of Dilworth, was living in Michigan two decades ago and was never in the service."
"During the time when Wicker, 39, claimed to have been taken as a prisoner of war, released and debriefed by the military, then given sniper training, he crashed his car into a ditch in Michigan."
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He was a Michigan man when he started his story that eventually went off the road.
"In reality, Wicker, of Dilworth, was living in Michigan two decades ago and was never in the service."
"During the time when Wicker, 39, claimed to have been taken as a prisoner of war, released and debriefed by the military, then given sniper training, he crashed his car into a ditch in Michigan."
Sounds like ICE should be targeting Michiganders and Somalis in Minnesota
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As more details come out about this it becomes even more insane. A billion dollars stolen from taxpayers in a generous state that just wanted to help people out. And people are losing their minds because people have the nerve to point out who did it.
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Sounds like ICE should be targeting Michiganders and Somalis in Minnesota
I would put a special emphasis on anyone wearing blue sweaters with maize Ms on them.
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2 Pennsylvania men, lol, have now been added to the fraud charges.
From the 1st Asst US Atty on Thursday ......
"Thompson said the pair dropped into Minnesota because they’d heard the program was “easy money.”
"“What we see in Minnesota is not a handful of bad actors committing crimes. It’s a staggering industrial-scale fraud. It’s swamping Minnesota and calling into question everything we know about our state.”
"These defendants came here not to enjoy our lakes, our beautiful summers or our warm people. They came here because they knew and understood that Minnesota was a place where taxpayer money could be taken with little risk and few consequences,” Thompson told reporters Thursday."
"The fraud, Thompson told reporters, “Eroded our collective sense of statewide self-esteem and confidence.”
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/12/18/minnesota-fraud-new-charges-medicaid-scam
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2 Pennsylvania men, lol, have now been added to the fraud charges.
From the 1st Asst US Atty on Thursday ......
"Thompson said the pair dropped into Minnesota because they’d heard the program was “easy money.”
"“What we see in Minnesota is not a handful of bad actors committing crimes. It’s a staggering industrial-scale fraud. It’s swamping Minnesota and calling into question everything we know about our state.”
"These defendants came here not to enjoy our lakes, our beautiful summers or our warm people. They came here because they knew and understood that Minnesota was a place where taxpayer money could be taken with little risk and few consequences,” Thompson told reporters Thursday."
"The fraud, Thompson told reporters, “Eroded our collective sense of statewide self-esteem and confidence.”
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2025/12/18/minnesota-fraud-new-charges-medicaid-scam
Unreal.
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Unreal.
The comments are not very flattering for the man who was the Democrat nominee for VP and who said on Sat “This is on my watch. I am accountable for this, ....".
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Found an interview of Mn!
https://x.com/karluskap/status/2002203165811261731?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Found an interview of Mn!
https://x.com/karluskap/status/2002203165811261731?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
That's not me. I don't own a red tie. Lol
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Tempo was balls deep in Walz when he got the nod. Can’t expect him to now have any credibility and roast his dumb ass the way he should be roasted.
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Tempo is the kind of guy that would completely excuse this entire thing because Tim Walz‘s heart was in the right place and that’s all that really matters. The results don’t matter, as long as you thought it might be a good idea that would help people.
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Lol.
I noticed this Walz thread yesterday. I don't remember seeing the "this deserves its own thread" thread so it was probably during my temper tantrum over a guy, who the world still knows nothing about, crawling around on a roof in Butler, Pa with a rifle.
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Got a new one in today's fishwrap.
The city of St Paul gave BlackFem $900,000 to teach them about money management under the guise that BlackFem would instead teach 5 year olds important lessons about money management.
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Lol.
I noticed this Walz thread yesterday. I don't remember seeing the "this deserves its own thread" thread so it was probably during my temper tantrum over a guy, who the world still knows nothing about, crawling around on a roof in Butler, Pa with a rifle.
(https://i.ibb.co/nqqDnTjz/Screenshot-20251223-200142-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WNNcPQfg)
You mean the Trumper guy that allegedly shit at Trump? The inside job "assassination" attempt to help the Trump campaign?
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Got a new one in today's fishwrap.
The city of St Paul gave BlackFem $900,000 to teach them about money management under the guise that BlackFem would instead teach 5 year olds important lessons about money management.
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Sounds like she could be related to Trump!
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Tempo is the kind of guy that would completely excuse this entire thing because Tim Walz‘s heart was in the right place and that’s all that really matters. The results don’t matter, as long as you thought it might be a good idea that would help people.
You literally fucking shill for Trump. The biggest grifter to ever hit Washington. STFU or gain some fucking self-awareness.
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You literally fucking shill for Trump. The biggest grifter to ever hit Washington. STFU or gain some fucking self-awareness.
They owe you an apology!!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9k8.hJA4.V-TEdy_PPkxV&smid=url-share
‘Don’s Best Friend’: How Epstein and Trump Bonded Over the Pursuit of Women
The president has tried to minimize their friendship, but documents and interviews reveal an intense and complicated relationship. Chasing women was a game of ego and dominance. Female bodies were currency.
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Lol.
I noticed this Walz thread yesterday. I don't remember seeing the "this deserves its own thread" thread so it was probably during my temper tantrum over a guy, who the world still knows nothing about, crawling around on a roof in Butler, Pa with a rifle.
(https://i.ibb.co/nqqDnTjz/Screenshot-20251223-200142-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/WNNcPQfg)
You’d literally hug Donald Trump’s balls if given the chance
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They owe you an apology!!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9k8.hJA4.V-TEdy_PPkxV&smid=url-share
‘Don’s Best Friend’: How Epstein and Trump Bonded Over the Pursuit of Women
The president has tried to minimize their friendship, but documents and interviews reveal an intense and complicated relationship. Chasing women was a game of ego and dominance. Female bodies were currency.
You don’t expect these MFers to acknowledge shit that’s “hiding” in plain sight, do you?
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They owe you an apology!!!
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/18/us/jeffrey-epstein-donald-trump.html?unlocked_article_code=1.9k8.hJA4.V-TEdy_PPkxV&smid=url-share
‘Don’s Best Friend’: How Epstein and Trump Bonded Over the Pursuit of Women
The president has tried to minimize their friendship, but documents and interviews reveal an intense and complicated relationship. Chasing women was a game of ego and dominance. Female bodies were currency.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5CvWvfs/IMG-4688.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/CRpxt5pb)
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You don’t expect these MFers to acknowledge shit that’s “hiding” in plain sight, do you?
Have you ever considered writing teen romance novels ?
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Have you ever considered writing teen romance novels ?
Maybe Donald would read them to you before bedtime.
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If the fucker could read.
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Maybe Donald would read them to you before bedtime.
If I get an autographed copy I'll send it to you. I'll ask him to write something nice for you.
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I’ll call main male character Donald J Trump.
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I’ll call main male character Donald J Trump.
A baseless conspiracy theory without evidence, or something like that.
Keep digging.
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LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Literally nothing could convince you that Donald Trump is a piece of shit.
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Merry Christmas to you too.
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Ho ho ho
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You literally fucking shill for Trump. The biggest grifter to ever hit Washington. STFU or gain some fucking self-awareness.
My self awareness is great.
I wouldn’t say I shill for Trump. I didn’t vote for him in 2016 or 2020 but the democrats were so bad I supported him in 2024 because his plan checked a lot of boxes for me (and still does) He’s getting shit done that matters to me.
Half the shit (probably more) you say about Trump is completely unsubstantiated rage bait nonsense that you believe heart and soul. It’s fun poking holes in your assertions and blanket statements that if it’s on the internet it must be true.
The stuff he’s done we actually have real proof of honestly doesn’t bother me that much. Not as much as complete and utter incompetency like what’s going on in MN or hordes of illegals that have no business being here.
And I stand by my assertion that yeah you care a lot more about what a politician says or posts online than anything they actually achieve. Same as your own persona, virtue signal like a mofo online, claim moral high ground on every issue; then admit you do next to nothing to actually impact any issue locally or elsewhere. But yet I’m this horrible insensitive person when I am in multiple charities and spend tons of time and effort and my own money to help others.
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He’s literally the biggest crook to ever inhabit the White House. It’s really not even debatable. That doesn’t even encompass his stunning lack of competency, mental imbalances, and disdain for political norms.
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He’s literally the biggest crook to ever inhabit the White House. It’s really not even debatable. That doesn’t even encompass his stunning lack of competency, mental imbalances, and disdain for political norms.
This guy summarizes about the same things I feel about what Trump is doing. I don’t expect you to agree or understand
https://x.com/milajoy/status/2004416675308077423?s=46
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He’s literally the biggest crook to ever inhabit the White House. It’s really not even debatable. That doesn’t even encompass his stunning lack of competency, mental imbalances, and disdain for political norms.
Is he though? Where and how is he grifting the taxpayer or American people? Bring receipts.
I would be more worried about his stunning level of competency if I were you, because he’s pulling off his agenda to an absolute tee. If he were truly a bumbling idiot like you suggest then how would he be executing all of his campaign promises with ruthless efficiency? That’s what guys like Ray are most upset about, which I get.
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Trying to get kids into Minnesota daycares that don’t even have kids in them 😂
https://x.com/ianonpatriot/status/2004606075228835980?s=46
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Trying to get kids into Minnesota daycares that don’t even have kids in them 😂
https://x.com/ianonpatriot/status/2004606075228835980?s=46
Just shared the same a bit ago in the “what’s wrong with the left” thread…
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Merry Christmas to you too.
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Ho ho ho
Good one MN
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Just shared the same a bit ago in the “what’s wrong with the left” thread…
Should have logged out first 😂
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Gerry Callahan
@GerryCallahan
"23-year-old YouTuber in a hoodie just did more in a day to expose massive Somali-Democrat fraud than the Minnesota media, CNN, NY Times, DOJ, FBI, DHS and the entire cast of 60 Minutes combined."
Here's the full 42 minutes from the YouTuber in a hoodie .....
https://x.com/i/status/2004642794862961123
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This guy summarizes about the same things I feel about what Trump is doing. I don’t expect you to agree or understand
https://x.com/milajoy/status/2004416675308077423?s=46
I think you vastly overrate Trump’s intelligence and virtuosity. It’s going to take more than this to convince me Trump is playing 4D Chess against the world.
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Is he though? Where and how is he grifting the taxpayer or American people? Bring receipts.
I would be more worried about his stunning level of competency if I were you, because he’s pulling off his agenda to an absolute tee. If he were truly a bumbling idiot like you suggest then how would he be executing all of his campaign promises with ruthless efficiency? That’s what guys like Ray are most upset about, which I get.
I’ve “brought receipts” over and over the last 5 years. You’ve ignored all of them.
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Is he though? Where and how is he grifting the taxpayer or American people? Bring receipts.
I would be more worried about his stunning level of competency if I were you, because he’s pulling off his agenda to an absolute tee. If he were truly a bumbling idiot like you suggest then how would he be executing all of his campaign promises with ruthless efficiency? That’s what guys like Ray are most upset about, which I get.
“Executing all of his campaign promises with ruthless efficiency” seems like an overstatement. Most of the ones he’s fulfilled were layups. And banning transgenders from women’s sports and pardoning J6ers wasn’t a high priority for many.
https://apnews.com/projects/trump-campaign-promise-tracker/
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As far as I can tell Ukraine and Gaza weren’t solved day one.
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I agree Trump has been fairly competent at destroying the country, with the help of SCOTUS supporting the radical form of the Unitary Executive doctrine.
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Pardoning the January 6 insurrectionists was important. Rumors some of them are in key positions at ICE.
Dismantling USAID was a real big deal and certainly made Putin happy..
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Pardoning the January 6 insurrectionists was important. Rumors some of them are in key
Wouldn’t find that at all surprising.
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I think you vastly overrate Trump’s intelligence and virtuosity. It’s going to take more than this to convince me Trump is playing 4D Chess against the world.
I’m not sure he’s that virtuous, but I do think the major policy initiatives he has made are good for America and our allies in the long run, bad for China and Russia, and bad for the globalists. I get that people don’t like how he’s going about it, but I believe it’s necessary. We were really at a crossroads of “are we going to leave our borders open and be complacent and let allies and trade partners bend us over and give our country over to immigrant hordes like Western Europe, or are we going to pull back on the yoke and try to stop the nosedive?”
Thank goodness we are pulling out of the nosedive, despite how much the left hates it, as they see Western Europe as the goal and not a problem.
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Gerry Callahan
@GerryCallahan
"23-year-old YouTuber in a hoodie just did more in a day to expose massive Somali-Democrat fraud than the Minnesota media, CNN, NY Times, DOJ, FBI, DHS and the entire cast of 60 Minutes combined."
Here's the full 42 minutes from the YouTuber in a hoodie .....
https://x.com/i/status/2004642794862961123
Apparently the video has around 75 million views as of this morning.
Today's extensive fishwrap coverage should boost that number.
JK. It wasn't mentioned.
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immigrant hordes
Nm
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AI Overview
Historical anti-immigration sentiment in America manifests in restrictive laws like the Chinese Exclusion Act (1882) and the Immigration Act of 1924, driven by fears of job loss, cultural pollution, and racial inferiority, targeting groups like Chinese, Irish, Italians, and Southern/Eastern Europeans, leading to propaganda, violence, and policies such as literacy tests, quotas, and bans.
Here are key examples:
Early America & 19th Century
Alien and Sedition Acts (1798): Increased residency for citizenship and allowed deportation of "dangerous" foreigners, reflecting Federalist fears of French immigrants.
Nativist Movements (1840s-1850s): The Know-Nothing Party emerged, opposing Irish and German Catholic immigrants, blaming them for societal problems.
Anti-Chinese Sentiment (Late 1800s):
Chinese laborers were scapegoated for low wages; leading to violence (e.g., Los Angeles 1871) and the Chinese Exclusion Act, banning Chinese laborers and naturalization.
Early 20th Century Restrictions
Immigration Act of 1924 (National Origins Act): Established strict racial quotas favoring Northern Europeans, severely restricting Southern/Eastern Europeans, and banning Asians entirely, remaining until 1965.
Literacy Tests: Implemented to reduce immigration from Southern and Eastern Europe, arguing immigrants were less "desirable".
Dillingham Commission: Promoted the idea of "desirable" (Northern European) versus "undesirable" (non-white, non-Protestant) immigrants.
Mid-to-Late 20th Century & Beyond
Post-WWII Nativism: Anti-Semitic attacks by groups like the Christian Front against Jewish immigrants in Boston showed persistent ethnic/religious prejudice.
Targeting Mexican Laborers: During the Great Depression, Mexican laborers were deported under President Hoover, accused of taking jobs.
Modern Nativism: Movements like the Tea Party and anti-immigrant legislation (e.g., Arizona's SB 1070) echo historical themes of economic threat and cultural preservation, continuing debates seen since the 1880s.
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AI Overview
Historical examples of xenophobia in the United States include the nativist views expressed by Benjamin Franklin in the 1750s, the nationwide movement of the second Ku Klux Klan in the 1920s, the anti-Semitic and racist elements within the America First Committee in the 1940s, and the conspiracy theories of the John Birch Society in the mid-to-late 20th century.
Benjamin Franklin's Letter to Peter Collinson (1753)
Benjamin Franklin's correspondence, including his 1753 letter to Peter Collinson and his essay "Observations Concerning the Increase of Mankind" (1751), contains expressions of anti-immigrant sentiment directed primarily at German immigrants in Pennsylvania.
Fear of cultural and linguistic replacement:
Franklin worried that the German newcomers, who were arriving in large numbers and often "herding together" in enclaves, would not assimilate into the English-speaking mainstream, thereby "Germanizing" the colony instead of the English "Anglifying" them.
Racial and social hierarchy: He used the term "Palatine boors" in a demeaning way and made racialized comments, questioning why Pennsylvania, a "colony of aliens," should be overrun by those of a different "complexion," suggesting a hierarchy of white European groups.
The Second Ku Klux Klan (1920s)
The second iteration of the Ku Klux Klan (KKK) was a powerful, nationwide organization that expanded far beyond the South, attracting millions of members by capitalizing on post-World War I nativism and a fear of "foreign" ideas and peoples.
Broadened targets: Unlike the first Klan which focused mainly on suppressing African Americans, the second Klan targeted a wider range of groups including immigrants, Catholics, Jews, and others perceived as "un-American".
Mainstream appeal: The KKK rebranded itself as a patriotic, civic organization, using mass advertising and social events to promote a vision of "true Americanism" based on white, Protestant supremacy and influencing national policies like the restrictive Immigration Act of 1924.
America First Committee (Pre-WWII)
The America First Committee (AFC), the largest isolationist organization in US history, was formed to oppose American entry into World War II.
Anti-Semitism and Nazi sympathy: While members had varied opinions, prominent leaders like Charles Lindbergh were known for their anti-Semitic views and Nazi sympathies, blaming Jewish people for trying to "drag us into war".
Racist undertones: The movement's rhetoric was often laced with racist messaging and utilized the "America First" slogan that had previously been used by the KKK to promote white nationalism and racial purity.
John Birch Society (Mid-to-Late 20th Century)
The John Birch Society (JBS), founded in 1958, was a far-right anti-communist group known for promoting conspiracy theories and an extreme form of conservatism.
Conspiracy theories: The JBS leadership, particularly founder Robert Welch, claimed that the U.S. government, including figures like President Dwight D. Eisenhower and Martin Luther King, Jr., had been infiltrated by communists in a vast conspiracy.
Opposition to Civil Rights: The Society was strongly opposed to the Civil Rights Movement, viewing it as a communist front. While the organization did not explicitly stand for white supremacy, its ideology and the actions of many of its local members fostered racial and anti-immigrant sentiment that became the ideological basis for later far-right movements.
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It’s really interesting how wanting to stem the flood of illegal immigration and enforce our borders is now being labeled as “anti-immigrant”
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The fringe right has been trying to stem the flood of unwanted immigrants since the colonial era. It's never actually been anti-immigrant. More like anti certain immigrants. It used to be Germans, Chinese, Irish, Italians, Eastern Europeans, Catholics, Jews ... Now it's Mexicans, Haitians, Muslims, or anyone that looks like them.
Most people don't know we essentially had open borders until 1924, or that illegal entry was a civil offence from 1924 - 1986.
Very few people oppose fair, common sense enforcement of our immigration laws that respect due process.
Fear and loathing of hordes of invading immigrants replacing them keeps the MAGA base vigilant..
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Very few people oppose fair, common sense enforcement of our immigration laws that respect due process.
The Biden administration thumbed their noses at this idea.
Thanks, Joe.
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The Biden [Trump] administration thumbed their noses at this idea.
Thanks, [Donnie] Joe.
fify
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The Biden administration thumbed their noses at this idea.
Thanks, Joe.
AI Overview
Under former President Joe Biden, immigration enforcement involved a shift in priorities, leading to record high border encounters and an emphasis on legal pathways, while resulting in a significant increase in overall deportations/expulsions by the end of his term, though interior arrests of non-priority individuals decreased.
Key Policies and Shifts
Enforcement Priorities: The Biden administration directed Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to focus interior enforcement efforts primarily on individuals posing threats to national security, border security, or public safety (e.g., serious criminals and recent border-crossers). This resulted in fewer arrests and deportations for less serious offenses compared to the prior administration.
Border Wall Construction Halted: On his first day in office, President Biden issued a proclamation to pause and ultimately end construction of the U.S.-Mexico border wall, redirecting the funds.
Title 42 and MPP: The administration initially sought to end the Trump-era Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP, or "Remain in Mexico" policy) and the Title 42 public health expulsion authority. However, due to litigation and ongoing border challenges, Title 42 remained in effect until May 2023, and MPP was briefly reinstated before being wound down in August 2022.
Legal Pathways & Humanitarian Parole:
The administration expanded legal avenues for migration, including the use of the CBP One mobile app for scheduling asylum appointments at ports of entry, and created humanitarian parole programs for migrants from countries like Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela.
Asylum Restrictions: After Title 42 ended, new asylum restrictions were implemented, which presumed migrants crossing the border unlawfully were ineligible for asylum unless they used a legal pathway or demonstrated exceptionally compelling circumstances.
Border Shutdown Executive Order: In June 2024, Biden authorized an executive order to temporarily shut down the southern border to asylum seekers if the average daily encounters exceeded a certain threshold (2,500 per day in a given week), allowing for immediate removal of those without a "credible fear" of persecution.
Enforcement Results and Statistics
Border Encounters: The U.S.-Mexico border experienced record-high migrant encounters, reaching nearly 2.5 million in fiscal year (FY) 2023, though this number includes repeat crossers.
Deportations and Expulsions: The total number of deportations and expulsions under the Biden administration was substantial. Combining Title 42 expulsions with formal removals, the administration oversaw over 4.4 million repatriations, more than any single presidential term since the George W. Bush era.
In FY 2024, deportations surged to a 10-year high, with 271,000 unauthorized immigrants removed, surpassing the Trump administration's highest annual total.
Interior Enforcement: Interior arrests by ICE decreased significantly due to the narrowed enforcement priorities. Arrests of "criminal aliens" dropped by 57% and deportations of this group fell by 67% in the first three fiscal years compared to the Trump administration.
Legal Immigration: Legal immigration levels and naturalizations reached new highs, with nearly 3.5 million immigrants becoming U.S. citizens during his term and refugee caps increased.
AI Overview
Estimates of the net increase in the unauthorized immigrant population during the Biden administration vary among research organizations, but most indicate a significant surge. The total current unauthorized immigrant population is estimated to be between approximately 13.7 million and 18.6 million as of late 2024/early 2025.
Net Increase
The net increase refers to new arrivals minus those who left the U.S. (emigration, deportations, or adjustments to legal status) or died.
Pew Research Center estimated an increase of 3.5 million between January 2021 and the end of 2023.
The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), which adjusts for potential undercounts, estimated the population grew by about 2.5 million (unadjusted) or possibly more between January 2021 and October 2023.
The Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) estimates a total increase of 4.1 million from December 2020 to
March 2025.
One analysis suggests the net increase in the illegal immigrant population could be in the range of 5.5 to 6 million during the Biden administration based on exceeding pre-2020 immigration trends.
Current Total Population
Estimates for the total number of unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. also vary depending on methodology and the time frame of data collection, with more recent estimates from 2024 and 2025 reflecting the significant recent growth.
Pew Research Center estimated the population at a record 14 million in 2023.
The Migration Policy Institute (MPI) estimated the population at 13.7 million in mid-2023.
FAIR released a 2025 report estimating the total number of illegal immigrants in the U.S. as high as 18.6 million as of March 2025.
Some analyses, such as one from the Heritage Foundation, estimate the number to be around 15.9 million after accounting for some attrition from initial inflows.
These figures are estimates, as accurately counting an undocumented population is inherently difficult due to the challenges of data collection.
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Fear and loathing of hordes of invading immigrants replacing them keeps the MAGA base vigilant..
Turns out letting millions of unvetted people in during the span of a few years was deeply unpopular and played a big role in getting Trump reelected.
I’m certainly not worrying about getting replaced by these people, I just think the Biden administration was insanely reckless and a lot of those people didn’t need to be here.
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I think it’s accurate to call millions of people a “horde”
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Turns out letting millions of unvetted people in during the span of a few years was deeply unpopular and played a big role in getting Trump reelected.
Nevermind that it didn't actually happen.
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AI Mode
No, the Biden administration has not allowed unvetted immigrants into the country; instead, all individuals entering the U.S. through official channels undergo security screening and vetting processes. The claim that immigrants are "unvetted" often stems from political criticism of specific programs like humanitarian parole and the high volume of border encounters, but these individuals are still processed by U.S. government agencies.
Vetting Procedures
All individuals seeking admission to the United States, whether through standard visa processes, refugee resettlement, or humanitarian programs, are subject to security vetting.
Standard Vetting: Vetting is conducted by various U.S. agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and the State Department. It involves comprehensive background checks, checking government watchlists, and reviewing law enforcement and immigration records.
Parole Programs: The Biden administration has used humanitarian parole programs on a large scale for individuals from countries like Afghanistan, Ukraine, Haiti, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela. Participants in these programs must have a U.S.-based sponsor and undergo "rigorous security vetting" and background checks before being permitted entry to live and work temporarily in the U.S..
Asylum Seekers: Migrants apprehended at the border or who use the CBP One app to schedule asylum appointments are processed by DHS and issued a notice to appear for court proceedings. Due to high volumes, some migrants have been released into the U.S. pending their asylum claims because of a lack of detention space, a practice that has drawn criticism, but they are still formally processed into the immigration system.
Enhanced Screening: The administration has at times enhanced screening measures, such as reducing the validity period for some employment authorization documents to ensure more frequent vetting and addressing potential fraud risks in certain applications.
The narrative of "unvetted" immigrants is generally disputed by U.S. government officials and some third-party analyses, who state that security screenings are a required part of all formal entry pathways.
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AI Mode
No, the Biden administration has not allowed unvetted immigrants into the country; instead, all individuals entering the U.S. through official channels undergo security screening and vetting processes. The claim that immigrants are "unvetted" often stems from political criticism of specific programs like humanitarian parole and the high volume of border encounters, but these individuals are still processed by U.S. government agencies.
Vetting Procedures
All individuals seeking admission to the United States, whether through standard visa processes, refugee resettlement, or humanitarian programs, are subject to security vetting.
Standard Vetting: Vetting is conducted by various U.S. agencies, including the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS), and the State Department. It involves comprehensive background checks, checking government watchlists, and reviewing law enforcement and immigration records.
Parole Programs: The Biden administration has used humanitarian parole programs on a large scale for individuals from countries like Afghanistan, Ukraine, Haiti, Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela. Participants in these programs must have a U.S.-based sponsor and undergo "rigorous security vetting" and background checks before being permitted entry to live and work temporarily in the U.S..
Asylum Seekers: Migrants apprehended at the border or who use the CBP One app to schedule asylum appointments are processed by DHS and issued a notice to appear for court proceedings. Due to high volumes, some migrants have been released into the U.S. pending their asylum claims because of a lack of detention space, a practice that has drawn criticism, but they are still formally processed into the immigration system.
Enhanced Screening: The administration has at times enhanced screening measures, such as reducing the validity period for some employment authorization documents to ensure more frequent vetting and addressing potential fraud risks in certain applications.
The narrative of "unvetted" immigrants is generally disputed by U.S. government officials and some third-party analyses, who state that security screenings are a required part of all formal entry pathways.
😂 you’re fucking insane if you believe that!!!
“AI Mode
No, the Biden administration has not allowed unvetted immigrants into the country; instead, all individuals entering the U.S. through official channels undergo security screening and vetting processes. The claim that immigrants are "unvetted" often stems from political criticism of specific programs like humanitarian parole and the high volume of border encounters, but these individuals are still processed by U.S. government agencies.”
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You are insane if you believe Trump's lies.
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AI Overview
The connotation of "horde" is generally negative or neutral-to-negative, implying a vast, chaotic, and often wild or unruly mass of people or creatures, carrying feelings of being overwhelmed, threatening, or uncivilized, stemming from its origin with nomadic warrior tribes like the Mongols.
While it can just mean a large crowd (hordes of tourists), it often suggests a disorganized, sometimes aggressive swarm that lacks control or pleasant manners, unlike a mere "crowd" or "group".
Key Connotations:
Disorder & Chaos: A teeming, unorganized mass, often moving together unpredictably, like "hordes of locusts" or "hordes of fans".
Threat & Ferocity: Historically linked to "barbarian hordes," implying invaders or overwhelming, fierce forces, as seen in fantasy like Warcraft.
Overwhelming Numbers: Suggests an uncontrollable, vast quantity that can be stressful or daunting, even if not hostile (e.g., "hordes of people" at a sale).
Nomadic/Tribal Roots: Derived from Turkic words for "camp" or "army," referring to nomadic groups, which adds a wild, untamed feel.
Examples in Context:
Negative: "Angry hordes parading victims".
Neutral/Overwhelmed: "Hordes of students on bikes made crossing the road difficult".
Historical: "Mongol hordes rode through Termez".
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/horde
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Nevermind that it didn't actually happen.
I asked how much vetting occurred during the migration surge under Biden:
• Volume overwhelming resources → Leading to rushed processing.
• Limited access → To foreign criminal databases (many countries do not share records, especially poorer or unstable ones like Venezuela or Haiti).
• Self-reported information → Often unverifiable.
• Reduced questioning → For certain nationalities (e.g., Chinese migrants) to speed processing.
A DHS OIG report found screening “not fully effective,” with incomplete data and gaps in recurrent vetting until later stages (often years). At least 99 watchlist individuals were released into the U.S. between FY2021–2023 due to initial clears or errors.
Unvetted Crossings: Gotaways
An estimated 1.5–2 million “gotaways” (migrants detected evading capture via surveillance but not apprehended) received no vetting at all—no biometrics, no database checks. These represent a complete bypass of screening.
Terrorism Watchlist Encounters
Over 380–400 individuals on the terrorist watchlist were encountered at the southwest border under Biden (vs. fewer than 20 total under Trump), mostly leading to detention or removal, but some releases occurred.
In summary, while encountered migrants underwent database screening (more than zero vetting but limited in depth and reliability), the record volume strained the system, and gotaways highlight a significant portion with effectively no vetting.
Official DHS/CBP sources emphasize robust processes for encounters, while independent and oversight reports highlight shortcomings exacerbated by the surge.
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AI Overview
The connotation of "horde" is generally negative or neutral-to-negative, implying a vast, chaotic, and often wild or unruly mass of people or creatures, carrying feelings of being overwhelmed, threatening, or uncivilized, stemming from its origin with nomadic warrior tribes like the Mongols.
While it can just mean a large crowd (hordes of tourists), it often suggests a disorganized, sometimes aggressive swarm that lacks control or pleasant manners, unlike a mere "crowd" or "group".
Key Connotations:
Disorder & Chaos: A teeming, unorganized mass, often moving together unpredictably, like "hordes of locusts" or "hordes of fans".
Threat & Ferocity: Historically linked to "barbarian hordes," implying invaders or overwhelming, fierce forces, as seen in fantasy like Warcraft.
Overwhelming Numbers: Suggests an uncontrollable, vast quantity that can be stressful or daunting, even if not hostile (e.g., "hordes of people" at a sale).
Nomadic/Tribal Roots: Derived from Turkic words for "camp" or "army," referring to nomadic groups, which adds a wild, untamed feel.
Examples in Context:
Negative: "Angry hordes parading victims".
Neutral/Overwhelmed: "Hordes of students on bikes made crossing the road difficult".
Historical: "Mongol hordes rode through Termez".
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/horde
Are you now arguing that the surge in border crossings was well-organized?
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It’s ok, only at least 1.5-2 MILLION people entered the country with zero vetting. A bunch more than that entered with minimal or spotty vetting. What’s a better word I can use to describe these millions than “horde?”
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Are you now arguing that the surge in border crossings was well-organized?
It was. Ask the Catholic and Lutheran 'charitable' organizations.
Then add in the free phones, hotel rooms, transportation and loaded credit cards once they crossed the border.
And Martha's Vineyard was fairly organized also. They got the migrants bussed out of town in no time. They're not racist in Martha's Vineyard tho.
AI: "It was framed by state officials as a humanitarian response to provide better ongoing care than the island could sustain."
The officials couldn't find any empty storefronts in Martha's Vineyard to set up child care, autism or transportation 'businesses' ? Lol
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fify
Did the Dem rep, who said in front of a camera that she needed 'constituents', get the 'constituents' that she wanted ?
Did the Dem reps who said we needed the workers get their requested number of busboys, dishwashers, laborers, cotton (I mean fruit and vegetable) pickers ?
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Gerry Callahan
@GerryCallahan
"23-year-old YouTuber in a hoodie just did more in a day to expose massive Somali-Democrat fraud than the Minnesota media, CNN, NY Times, DOJ, FBI, DHS and the entire cast of 60 Minutes combined."
Here's the full 42 minutes from the YouTuber in a hoodie .....
https://x.com/i/status/2004642794862961123
A lot coming out that seems to indicate this “23 year old YouTuber’s” reporting wasn’t very accurate. Reminds me of the conservative kid that dressed up like a pimp and got exposed for some very shady editing.
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https://x.com/wayne_whitlock/status/2005485570575978918?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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A lot coming out that seems to indicate this “23 year old YouTuber’s” reporting wasn’t very accurate.
Thanks for the engagement farmer link. Lol
It's called 'kill the messenger'. You expected something different ?
They, self-serving Democrats and Republicans, are going to try to destroy the guy so that the people who see with their own eyes or hear with their own ears can be labeled as racists and xenophobes by people who read things in mass media.
It's going to get worse before it gets worse.
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What if the messenger’s message isn’t exactly truthful?
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Shooting the messenger!
(https://i.postimg.cc/3RXDMxLh/IMG-4732.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sQ227sdH)
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Shooting the messenger!
Uh huh.
And they don't want to hear from you because there are no kids.
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Are you now arguing that the surge in border crossings was well-organized?
I am suggesting the use of the word hordes is a perjorative, similar to Trump calling it an invasion.
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He wasn't part of the invading hordes of immigrants. Nobody cares.
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He wasn't part of the invading hordes of immigrants. Nobody cares.
He also wasn't pardoned.
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He also wasn't pardoned.
His sentence was commuted.
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AI
Does a Pardon Require Admission of Guilt?
Yes, usually: For a pardon, applicants must demonstrate acceptance of responsibility for the crime. No Innocence Implied: A pardon doesn't mean you're innocent; it's forgiveness after accepting guilt and showing good behavior.
Commutation: Doesn't necessarily imply guilt; it's about the sentence's fairness.
Exception: The landmark pardon of Richard Nixon by Gerald Ford was an advance pardon that didn't require guilt admission, as Nixon hadn't even been charged yet.
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Hid sentence was commuted.
The social media post that you used said he was pardoned.
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AI
Does a Pardon Require Admission of Guilt?
Yes, usually: For a pardon, applicants must demonstrate acceptance of responsibility for the crime. No Innocence Implied: A pardon doesn't mean you're innocent; it's forgiveness after accepting guilt and showing good behavior.
Commutation: Doesn't necessarily imply guilt; it's about the sentence's fairness.
Exception: The landmark pardon of Richard Nixon by Gerald Ford was an advance pardon that didn't require guilt admission, as Nixon hadn't even been charged yet.
AI. And assuming that I asked the same question, word for word.
Does a pardon require admission of guilt
No, a pardon—particularly a U.S. presidential pardon—does not require an explicit admission of guilt from the recipient, nor does accepting one necessarily constitute a formal legal confession of guilt.Key Supreme Court Precedent: Burdick v. United States (1915)The often-cited case is Burdick v. United States (236 U.S. 79), where the Supreme Court stated in dictum (non-binding commentary) that a pardon "carries an imputation of guilt; acceptance a confession of it." This language explains why someone might reject a pardon to avoid implying guilt and preserve their Fifth Amendment rights. However, this was not the holding of the case, and legal experts widely view it as overstated or misunderstood when applied broadly.Modern Interpretations and RulingsModern courts and scholars reject the idea that acceptance always equals a legal admission of guilt:In 2021, the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals (Lorance v. Commandant) ruled that a former soldier's acceptance of a Trump pardon did not constitute a confession of guilt. The court called the Burdick language dicta and noted that the pardon was "agnostic as to... guilt," with no court since 1915 treating acceptance as a formal confession.
Constitutional law professors (e.g., Brian Kalt at Michigan State) describe the notion as a "widespread misunderstanding"—while a pardon may imply guilt publicly or practically, it has no formal legal effect of declaring someone guilty.
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MAGA must be really scared of Walz, every other post on X is calling for Trump to throw him in prison.
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paragraphs breaks are helpful
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The social media post that you used said he was pardoned.
I didn't use a social media post. I sarcastically commented on someone else's post.
In social media, people don't generally care about the technical difference between clemency, commutations, pardons, etc.
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I am suggesting the use of the word hordes is a perjorative, similar to Trump calling it an invasion.
How many Germans invaded Poland? Or Russia? Where do we draw the line? I ask again, what’s the right word for millions of people crossing our borders? Are we in George Carlin’s “soft language” zone here? Wait, of course we are.
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How many Germans invaded Poland? Or Russia? Where do we draw the line? I ask again, what’s the right word for millions of people crossing our borders? Are we in George Carlin’s “soft language” zone here? Wait, of course we are.
Is humanizing people "soft language?" If so, is the correction to dehumanize them?
btw, Phrase softeners have their place. Anyone in sales knows that.
When to Use vs. Avoid
Use: When you want to be polite, show empathy, give gentle feedback, or make a request without sounding demanding.
Avoid: When directness is needed, to avoid appearing uncertain, or when discussing serious issues where softening the language obscures the reality of the situation.
Hitler wanted to replace Eastern Europeans with Teutonic people. You really want to compare that with people seeking work and escaping violence?
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Unvetted Crossings: Gotaways
An estimated 1.5–2 million “gotaways” (migrants detected evading capture via surveillance but not apprehended) received no vetting at all—no biometrics, no database checks. These represent a complete bypass of screening.
That increased while the border was closed.
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Is humanizing people "soft language?" If so, is the correction to dehumanize them?
btw, Phrase softeners have their place. Anyone in sales knows that.
When to Use vs. Avoid
Use: When you want to be polite, show empathy, give gentle feedback, or make a request without sounding demanding.
Avoid: When directness is needed, to avoid appearing uncertain, or when discussing serious issues where softening the language obscures the reality of the situation.
Hitler wanted to replace Eastern Europeans with Teutonic people. You really want to compare that with people seeking work and escaping violence?
No, I want to know why using a word that means “a large group of people” isn’t acceptable to use in reference to a large group of people. Or why, when millions pour into the country, calling it an invasion is improper. If you look invasion or horde up, they both hold definitions that are completely proper in this context.
I get that you’re as bleeding heart as bleeding hearts get, but you’re just arguing semantics regarding what word Trump or I used to describe a massive influx of illegal immigrants most Americans didn’t want to let in.
I don’t feel the need to use soft language in this situation, and I don’t feel offended that Trump uses firm language. But then again I don’t believe that all of these people came here to find work and escape violence. Difference in perspective I suppose.
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Hmmmmmm…
https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/2005964585363272041?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I don’t believe that all of these people came here to find work and escape violence. Difference in perspective I suppose.
Why do think they came here? I assume you think they mean us harm? "Invading hordes":
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Why do think they came here? I assume you think they mean us harm? "Invading hordes":
I’ve said it probably more than a thousand times. Conservatives focus on the people with a cell phone and a working refrigerator while the real criminals get away with literally almost anything. This person is right.
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhNG0rky/IMG-4741.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJNVrznB)
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Aimee Bock. Look (lock?) her up.
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Aimee Bock. Look (lock?) her up.
She doesn't play.
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Aimee Bock. Look (lock?) her up.
Question for HQ. Are we upset about the Caucasian mastermind behind $250 million Minnesota fraud?
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/meet-minnesotas-fraud-mastermind-accused-playing-god-wielding-fake-racism-claims-somali-scandal
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Good.
https://x.com/hhs_jim/status/2006136004294664464?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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LOLOLOLOLOL…
https://x.com/thekevindalton/status/2005752203458535931?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Aimee Bock. Look (lock?) her up.
No comment, Judy?
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No comment, Judy?
It’s white supremacy!!!
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Hmmmmmm…
https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/2005964585363272041?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I can assure you that GOP dislikes self righteous white liberal women way more than any immigrants of color
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Why do think they came here? I assume you think they mean us harm? "Invading hordes":
I think it’s a mixed bag. I’d guess most of them came here to find a better life. A not insignificant number came in with ill intentions. We unfortunately don’t really know for sure how many of each because, well, you know.
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I’ve said it probably more than a thousand times. Conservatives focus on the people with a cell phone and a working refrigerator while the real criminals get away with literally almost anything. This person is right.
(https://i.postimg.cc/JhNG0rky/IMG-4741.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJNVrznB)
Who are the democrats going after? What swamp are they draining? They’re as much in the pockets of the big corporations as anyone.
Other fraud aside, what’s happening in Minnesota fucking matters, whether you want to deflect from it or not.
The executive leadership of the GOP is largely made up of former Democrats and they actually are going after big corps. But you hate that because they’re challenging the vaccine schedules and big food regarding obesity and rampant government waste and fraud. And somehow in the last 10-15 years Democrats went from hating big pharma and big food to being their biggest allies. It’s truly bizarre.
Find some good candidates, win elections, close tax loopholes and hold your elected officials accountable. What happened when the democrats held most of the power? Same old same old. Just more drone strikes killing women and children and Russia invading Ukraine.
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Aimee Bock. Look (lock?) her up.
Brought her up a couple weeks ago. Congrats on your big find. This isn’t a skin color thing, it’s an insanely brazen fraud thing. Everyone involved was scared to do ANYTHING because the race card kept getting played, exactly as you’re doing now.
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Good.
https://x.com/hhs_jim/status/2006136004294664464?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
FAFO
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I have no idea how paid leave works in other states but the Democrat passed paid leave program in Minnesota starts tomorrow.
Actually it starts today for 2026 enrollment
Actually it started last January if you had a child or more in 2025.
One of the Mn fraud programs had an initial state estimate of of a relatively small annual funding need. Help the kids, it won't cost much.
Two years later and the funding requirement was 10 times the initial estimate.
The paid leave program begins to provide payments to enrollees on Jan 1 2026 and had a 2024 estimate of 12,000-15,000 enrollees.
7000 have enrolled already.
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FAFO
Found this gem in tempos link
https://x.com/ifinddumbfucks/status/2006156919019295153?s=46
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LOL on the Nick Shirley FAFO
https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2006125513203384580/photo/1
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I can assure you that GOP dislikes self righteous white liberal women way more than any immigrants of color
Your assurances are very assuring.
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Found this gem in tempos link
https://x.com/ifinddumbfucks/status/2006156919019295153?s=46
I thought we were anti-cartoon. This is basically a cartoon.
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Who are the democrats going after? What swamp are they draining? They’re as much in the pockets of the big corporations as anyone.
Other fraud aside, what’s happening in Minnesota fucking matters, whether you want to deflect from it or not.
The executive leadership of the GOP is largely made up of former Democrats and they actually are going after big corps. But you hate that because they’re challenging the vaccine schedules and big food regarding obesity and rampant government waste and fraud. And somehow in the last 10-15 years Democrats went from hating big pharma and big food to being their biggest allies. It’s truly bizarre.
Find some good candidates, win elections, close tax loopholes and hold your elected officials accountable. What happened when the democrats held most of the power? Same old same old. Just more drone strikes killing women and children and Russia invading Ukraine.
They were seeking to drain the Trump Crime Swanp and all you did was complain about it
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LOL on the Nick Shirley FAFO
https://x.com/nickshirleyy/status/2006125513203384580/photo/1
I’m sure this will go ignored as virtually all negative Trump posts/reports do.
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Only the best pardons!
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/14/us/politics/philip-esformes-trump-clemency-recipient-new-charges.html
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I’m sure this will go ignored as virtually all negative Trump posts/reports do.
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He wasn't pardoned. LOL
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He wasn't pardoned. LOL
LOL my bad. Commuted.
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He probably didn’t have enough money for a full pardon.
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Hmmmmm…
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/2006423981436346376?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Nick Shirley’s grift falling apart.
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/2006399226201112969?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Nick Shirley’s grift falling apart.
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/2006399226201112969?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Shocking that there is grifting all around.
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Oh so true…
https://x.com/gragedustin/status/2006744920229601335?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Nick Shirley’s grift falling apart.
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/2006399226201112969?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Copium at the highest level.
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https://x.com/mitchellvii/status/2006315172831416807?s=46
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That feeling when you read the script that you've been given to read and you realize what you've just said about the people you associate with .......
https://x.com/i/status/2006469776936456603
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Mn, you should listen to this one carefully. Since I know Custard won’t.
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2006735507481588120?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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That feeling when you read the script that you've been given to read and you realize what you've just said about the people you associate with .......
https://x.com/i/status/2006469776936456603
Is that supposed to prove something?
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https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2006831465720590685?s=46
Looking to Elon Musk to expose fraud is just next level cluelessness. This is the same guy who just crippled or destroyed every government entity investigating him or standing in the way of his power grab. I know you’re not this stupid, Custard.
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https://x.com/mitchellvii/status/2006315172831416807?s=46
Interesting he chose the “red pill” analogy. The same analogy used by the crypto/tech bros looking to co-opt American democracy and turn our country into a corporatocracy run by…them!
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Oh so true…
https://x.com/gragedustin/status/2006744920229601335?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Who’s paying for the ballroom? Tech/crypto bros and corporate interests. You know they expect something back for that, right?
https://fortune.com/2025/10/26/37-white-house-ballroom-donors-funding-300-million-build-tech-ceos-trump/
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Oh so true…
https://x.com/gragedustin/status/2006744920229601335?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Guessing the large number of fraudsters Trump has pardoned or commuted sentences for hasn’t hit your radar, huh?
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"Somali fraudsters"
The race bating continues.
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"Trump renovating the East Wing"
AI
President Trump is undertaking a major renovation involving the demolition of the East Wing to build a large, new ballroom, a project costing hundreds of millions, funded by private donors, which has sparked controversy and legal challenges due to its historic nature and lack of traditional review. The existing East Wing was torn down starting in October 2025, with plans to complete the new structure before Trump leaves office, replacing the First Lady's offices and public entrance with a massive event space.
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The interweb
"The first White House state dinner of President Joe Biden’s administration drew big names Thursday from fashion, entertainment, politics and business who turned out to help celebrate French President Emmanuel Macron and the return of large social events after the pandemic.
There were kisses 💋💋 all around as the Bidens stepped out
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on the North Portico to welcome the Macrons — Jill Biden in an off-the-shoulder navy Oscar de la Renta gown, Brigitte Macron in a high-necked ivory one by Louis Vuitton. 🤪
Late-night TV host Stephen Colbert said nothing as guests passed through a White House decorated for the holidays and boarded trolleys for the ride down the South Lawn to a heated 🥶 party tent. 🥳🥳
https://apnews.com/article/biden-jill-united-states-macron-state-dinners-73f5a0d51b4058c7b96ec1e43c59a3e1
WASHINGTON, Nov. 23 (UPI) -- The guest list remains a guarded secret 🤫 for Tuesday's state dinner honoring India's prime minister, the first such dinner U.S. President Barack Obama will host.
Instead of the traditional venue of the State Dining Room, the Obamas will dine with a few hundred VIPs in a heated tent 🥶⛺️ on the South Lawn, the Los Angeles Times reported.
Dee Dee Myers, who was former President Bill Clinton's press secretary, said lobbying by people seeking an invite had probably been relentless.
"The first (state dinner) is always the most dramatic," Myers said. "First impressions are important. That's your A list, that's your top game right there. ⛺️🤣
Myers said the Clintons took some guff about their tented affairs from critics who judged them "too Arkansas, too big and not exclusive enough."
https://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/11/23/Obamas-first-state-dinner-under-big-tent/48161258989934/
The tented affairs were too Arkansas. 🤠
Trump hates tents. Lol
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Mn, you should listen to this one carefully. Since I know Custard won’t.
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2006735507481588120?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Mn, you didn’t answer.
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Mn, you should listen to this one carefully. Since I know Custard won’t.
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2006735507481588120?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
She makes too much rational sense. Send her to the kitchen where she belongs..
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That feeling when you read the script that you've been given to read and you realize what you've just said about the people you associate with .......
https://x.com/i/status/2006469776936456603
Seriously, it was Republicans who wanted to privatize social services to begin with, because nonprofits would do better than government. Then they probably cut funding for oversight..
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Mn, you didn’t answer.
I didn't open the link.
Enjoy your Tik Tok fantasy world.
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Looking to Elon Musk to expose fraud is just next level cluelessness. This is the same guy who just crippled or destroyed every government entity investigating him or standing in the way of his power grab. I know you’re not this stupid, Custard.
I’m not sure that’s actually true, however, I did paste the wrong link on accident. Wasn’t meaning to paste Elon’s tweet.
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Mn, you should listen to this one carefully. Since I know Custard won’t.
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2006735507481588120?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Some lady talking to her phone in a TikTok reposted by some singer songwriter. Only took 2/3 of the way into the video before she played the race card and predicted the demise of the GOP. Great content here, very compelling.
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I didn't open the link.
Enjoy your Tik Tok fantasy world.
About what I thought.
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Some lady talking to her phone in a TikTok reposted by some singer songwriter. Only took 2/3 of the way into the video before she played the race card and predicted the demise of the GOP. Great content here, very compelling.
As if bitching to no end about Somali fraud in Minnesota, all the while ignoring the fact Trump is pardoning and commuting sentences for rich, mostly white fraudsters at a shocking rate isn’t playing a different type of “race card.”
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Some lady talking to her phone in a TikTok reposted by some singer songwriter. Only took 2/3 of the way into the video before she played the race card and predicted the demise of the GOP. Great content here, very compelling.
Thanks for toftt :D
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As if bitching to no end about Somali fraud in Minnesota, all the while ignoring the fact Trump is pardoning and commuting sentences for rich, mostly white fraudsters at a shocking rate isn’t playing a different type of “race card.”
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It’s such a “non-issue” even the conservative Republican friendly Wall Street Journal is covering it.
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Oh my goodness. I never imagined. Lol
He means in 2 weeks. Not Jan 17, 2027.
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It’s such a “non-issue” even the conservative Republican friendly Wall Street Journal is covering it.
(https://i.postimg.cc/ZKVKkMkN/IMG-4772.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/hfQqTMt4)
Where’s the WSJ article?
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Where’s the WSJ article?
I can be your personal googler, I guess.
https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-presidential-pardon-process-dda97c15
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For some reason the help wanted post has been removed.
(https://i.ibb.co/Qvmgf8B0/Screenshot-20260105-080241-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/F47rKsvp)
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Tim Walz not seeking re-election. A small victory for misinformation and Republicans, I guess.
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For some reason the help wanted post has been removed.
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"The ad's authenticity has been a subject of debate, with some considering it a brazen attempt at fraud and others a potential troll or joke."
I'll go with obvious hoax
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"The ad's authenticity has been a subject of debate, with some considering it a brazen attempt at fraud and others a potential troll or joke."
I'll go with obvious hoax
Calling it an "obvious hoax" is your choice.
I went with "for some reason".
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How do we know that Craigslist ad wasn’t created by a conservative? Would be pretty comical if an actual daycare were that stupid.
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Calling it an "obvious hoax" is your choice.
I went with "for some reason".
I thought we only dealt in facts?
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I mean, if they needed 20 kids, I’m pretty sure they could find them without an ad.
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Tim Walz not seeking re-election. A small victory for misinformation and Republicans, I guess.
Potential major victory for Minnesotan taxpayers, who should vote someone into office that will crack some skulls but they’ll probably just elect another corrupt progressive and keep the vicious circle going.
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I am not a Democrat, but I don't think you are fooling anyone but other idiots, er Republicans.
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Potential major victory for Minnesotan taxpayers, who should vote someone into office that will crack some skulls but they’ll probably just elect another corrupt progressive and keep the vicious circle going.
Why is there no Rick Scott corruption thread at HQ? Certainly this bothers you guys.
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Tim Walz not seeking re-election. A small victory for misinformation and Republicans, I guess.
And Minnesotans writ large. That guy sucks. Another reason why Kamala Harris sucks.
Now they should go after Hamas supporters like Ellison and Ihlan. Fuck those fraud supporting Progressive scumbags.
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"The ad's authenticity has been a subject of debate, with some considering it a brazen attempt at fraud and others a potential troll or joke."
I'll go with obvious hoax
Funny one though.
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Potential major victory for Minnesotan taxpayers, who should vote someone into office that will crack some skulls but they’ll probably just elect another corrupt progressive and keep the vicious circle going.
Maybe they should elect a pro wrestler. Can't be any worse.....
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Why is there no Rick Scott corruption thread at HQ? Certainly this bothers you guys.
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So basically Tim Walz is no worse than Rick Scott. That's some measurement bar.
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So basically Tim Walz is no worse than Rick Scott. That's some measurement bar.
Walz prosecuted fraud and was punished,; Rick Scott perpetrated fraud and was rewarded.
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Walz prosecuted fraud and was punished,; Rick Scott perpetrated fraud and was rewarded.
He also allowed fraud to flourish.
So why are people here defending Walz, Ellison, Ohmar, et al.?
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Maybe they should elect a pro wrestler. Can't be any worse.....
That’s where I was going with that post, couldn’t help thinking how disappointed The Body must be.
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And Minnesotans writ large. That guy sucks. Another reason why Kamala Harris sucks.
Now they should go after Hamas supporters like Ellison and Ihlan. Fuck those fraud supporting Progressive scumbags.
LOL
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Walz prosecuted fraud and was punished,; Rick Scott perpetrated fraud and was rewarded.
Now do JB…
He was the one on the other end of the phone trying to buy the seat from Blago in IL, then he’s elected Governor. Can’t make this shit up…
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He also allowed fraud to flourish.
So why are people here defending Walz, Ellison, Ohmar, et al.?
The real question is why are they praising Trump.
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Now do JB…
He was the one on the other end of the phone trying to buy the seat from Blago in IL, then he’s elected Governor. Can’t make this shit up…
You choose to completely ignore that Rick Scott oversaw the biggest Medicare fraud in US history. One could make it up, but I don’t have to.
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You choose to completely ignore that Rick Scott oversaw the biggest Medicare fraud in US history. One could make it up, but I don’t have to.
You’re ignoring JB though! LOL
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The real question is why are they praising Trump.
We know the answer to that one.
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You’re ignoring JB though! LOL
Tempo is the flip side of the coin opposite Mn!
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You’re ignoring JB though! LOL
Serious question, did Pritzker say anything about selling the seat? If he did, I’m unawares.
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Tempo is the flip side of the coin opposite Mn!
What did Pritzker do that was illegal?
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What did Pritzker do that was illegal?
Besides commit tax and wire fraud with his toilet antics?
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Besides commit tax and wire fraud with his toilet antics?
His plumber said it was smart and apparently legal (as he bought side by side units) and had the wall removed.
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Besides commit tax and wire fraud with his toilet antics?
But yes, specifically regarding the Senate seat.
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His plumber said it was smart and apparently legal (as he bought side by side units).
“How hard is it to walk 40 more feet to the bathroom?” - Pritzker’s plumber (and avowed Republican).
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His plumber said it was smart and apparently legal (as he bought side by side units).
I'm sure he relied on his plumber for legal advice.
The inspector general report opined that it wasn't legal. And then JB paid the back taxes with interest.
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But yes, specifically regarding the Senate seat.
Nothing illegal, but definitely uncouth.
2018 Governor’s Race: Decade-Old Phone Call a Headache for Pritzker | Chicago News | WTTW https://share.google/q2uR5MQw32bzx8RIb
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Well then he’s all good.
Bigger crook, JB or Trump?
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Well then he’s all good.
Bigger crook, JB or Trump?
Probably Trump
Bigger hypocrite? JB
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Nothing illegal, but definitely uncouth.
2018 Governor’s Race: Decade-Old Phone Call a Headache for Pritzker | Chicago News | WTTW https://share.google/q2uR5MQw32bzx8RIb
I read the conversation (quickly). JB mentioned appointing an AA what exactly was “uncouth?” What did I miss?
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I must have missed something
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I read the conversation (quickly). JB mentioned appointing an AA what exactly was “uncouth?” What did I miss?
Jesse White was "part white" like Obama as opposed to Emil Jones?
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Meh “lockeroom” talk. We’ve heard way worse.
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Jesse White was "part white" like Obama as opposed to Emil Jones?
Blago said that no? To which Pritzker mumbled heh heh. Which could mean anything. Most likely filling an awkward pause.
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He obviously was going along for the ride, ergo the issues with the convo noted in the article during the election.
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I don’t see anything worth getting into a huff about from Pritzker here.
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I don’t see anything worth getting into a huff about from Pritzker here.
Of course not.
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Just put LOL, it’s easier and quicker…
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Just put LOL, it’s easier and quicker…
And accurate.
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I’d be curious to see what kind of shit they would find if JB actually ran for president. Besides all the completely punched out Mr. Beef punchcards.
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Maybe they should elect a pro wrestler. Can't be any worse.....
Or a pillow maker. "Can't be any worse..... "
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He also allowed fraud to flourish.
So why are people here defending Walz, Ellison, Ohmar, et al.?
Same people who want Maduro to flourish.
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The feds are doing the Minnesota fraud prosecutions.
Walz has been too late putting little bandages on a probable end to his political life wound.
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The Minnesota Lieutenant Governor, a Native American.
And the AG, the chief law enforcement officer in the state.
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Or a pillow maker. "Can't be any worse..... "
That fraudster would definitely be worse.
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That fraudster would definitely be worse.
I'm not sure about that.
From the fed prosecutor, "We’re losing our way of life in Minnesota in a very real way.”
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I’d be curious to see what kind of shit they would find if JB actually ran for president. Besides all the completely punched out Mr. Beef punchcards.
But you’re totally uncurious about Trump’s close 15 year relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Hmmmm, wonder why.
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Same people who want Maduro to flourish.
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The Minnesota Lieutenant Governor, a Native American.
And the AG, the chief law enforcement officer in the state.
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I’d hit it, bet the role playing sex would be primo.
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I'm not sure about that.
From the fed prosecutor, "We’re losing our way of life in Minnesota in a very real way.”
Lemme guess, he’s a Trumper.
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Make Venezuela Great Again !!!
Why do you hate Venezuelans ?
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Make Venezuela Great Again !!!
Why do you hate Venezuelans ?
Why do you love imperialism?
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I’d hit it, bet the role playing sex would be primo.
What color checked tablecloth would you wear ?
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Make Venezuela Great Again !!!
Why do you hate Venezuelans ?
Mn loves Tren De Aragua
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But you’re totally uncurious about Trump’s close 15 year relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Hmmmm, wonder why.
I’ve been curious for years and nothing ever comes of it. If there were any smoking guns we’d have known about it well before the last election was in the books. I’ve told you your expectations are out of whack, but you’re like Fox Mulder in X Files—you want NEED to believe.
Turns out damn near anybody that was anybody in finance or big business in New York was tied to him back then. He doesn’t seem tied to any trips to the island and the few trips he was apparently on a plane with him he was with his family. Once again, show me some actually damning proof and we can come to an agreement on it.
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Someone who wrote a book about Epstein asked why her name was in the released files.
I don't think she was too happy.
This is what Massie and Khanna asked for. Their bill gave the feds 30 days for the files release.
As of a few days ago, after the bill's deadline, the feds said they had 5 million documents/pages to go.
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I’d hit it, bet the role playing sex would be primo.
Come on, she’s not gonna fuck a random white guy.
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I’ve been curious for years and nothing ever comes of it. If there were any smoking guns we’d have known about it well before the last election was in the books. I’ve told you your expectations are out of whack, but you’re like Fox Mulder in X Files—you want NEED to believe.
Turns out damn near anybody that was anybody in finance or big business in New York was tied to him back then. He doesn’t seem tied to any trips to the island and the few trips he was apparently on a plane with him he was with his family. Once again, show me some actually damning proof and we can come to an agreement on it.
LOL “nothing ever comes of it,” is right. Literally no one has been punished except Epstein and Maxwell.
We literally have the President on video saying he sexually assaults women at his pleasure and gets away with it because he can.
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Trump and Epstein literally had their own “party” with young “models.” This isn’t a secret.
In fact, they shared “a beautiful secret” according to Trump.
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My bad, “may every day be another wonderful secret.”
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Trump and Epstein literally had their own “party” with young “models.” This isn’t a secret.
In fact, they shared “a beautiful secret” according to Trump.
Do you read steamy novels ?
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Do you read steamy novels ?
Obfuscate, obfuscate, obfuscate. You’re not that clever.
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https://x.com/davidschwartz70/status/2008576892648202280?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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More facts for our resident Trumpers to ignore and sweep under the rug.
https://x.com/kylekulinski/status/2008735554004021390?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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https://x.com/davidschwartz70/status/2008576892648202280?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Financial ruin, eh?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWo3HxlHldc
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She had it coming.
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She had it coming.
What is it with Minnesota and Law Enforcement. Hiring 7th grade football players with CTE, handing them a gun, and saying "go bust some ass".
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What is it with Minnesota and Law Enforcement. Hiring 7th grade football players with CTE, handing them a gun, and saying "go bust some ass".
This was ICE.
Video does not look like she was trying to run anyone over.
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The video does not appear to support Noem's version of events.
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The video does not appear to support Noem's version of events.
Is anyone really surprised?
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This was ICE.
Video does not look like she was trying to run anyone over.
Yes, it was ICE, I was making a offhand reference to Derek Chauvin nonetheless.
These fucktards have zero training. What does shooting her accomplish if that officer was "afraid". He's not killing the car. But if he kills the driver, car could do anything, Either way, if she and her buddies were blocking the road so ICE can't get somewhere, you just stand down and wait. It's not like ICE was going into an active shooter situation ordering people to shelter in place. Same rationale as cops ceding in the event of a high speed chase, the most likely result of a high speed chase is that bystanders or the cops doing the chasing end up dead. Anyone ICE was going after, would be there tomorrow just the same. If not, they probably self deported. Great!
37 year old white soccer mom decides to cosplay and block the roadway - or as Kristi Noem calls it "An act of domestic terrorism".
George Floyd protests gonna be nothing compared to this. At least the Mayor and Walz are getting in front of it, because unlike Noem they aren't assholes.
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The video does not appear to support Noem's version of events.
Noem figured they could just do some AI editing on the Body Cam footage and be clear. She doesn't comprehend "Cell phones"
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This was ICE.
Video does not look like she was trying to run anyone over.
She was intentionally blocking traffic, the agents ordered her multiple times to get out of the car. She backs up instead, there’s clearly an agent in front of her car as she turned and hit the gas. The car appears to bump/hit him, he pivots away and fires.
I don’t think shooting her was the right thing to do from what I can tell, but she indeed fucked around and found out. Maybe they’ll burn down downtown again in her honor.
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She was intentionally blocking traffic,
We don't know that.
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We don't know that.
Sure looks like it.
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Have to say Murph's video makes it a lot more of a closer call....
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Yes, it was ICE, I was making a offhand reference to Derek Chauvin nonetheless.
These fucktards have zero training. What does shooting her accomplish if that officer was "afraid". He's not killing the car. But if he kills the driver, car could do anything, Either way, if she and her buddies were blocking the road so ICE can't get somewhere, you just stand down and wait. It's not like ICE was going into an active shooter situation ordering people to shelter in place. Same rationale as cops ceding in the event of a high speed chase, the most likely result of a high speed chase is that bystanders or the cops doing the chasing end up dead. Anyone ICE was going after, would be there tomorrow just the same. If not, they probably self deported. Great!
37 year old white soccer mom decides to cosplay and block the roadway - or as Kristi Noem calls it "An act of domestic terrorism".
George Floyd protests gonna be nothing compared to this. At least the Mayor and Walz are getting in front of it, because unlike Noem they aren't assholes.
If we want to play Pragmatic, maybe she doesn’t cosplay and fuck with federal agents, which accomplishes absolutely nothing. Can’t wait for more martyring of loser deadbeats and traffic blockers.
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If we want to play Pragmatic, maybe she doesn’t cosplay and fuck with federal agents, which accomplishes absolutely nothing. Can’t wait for more martyring of loser deadbeats and traffic blockers.
What's your viewpoint on Ashlee Babbitt?
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What’s Kyle Rittenhouse and George Zimmerman up to these days? Wouldn’t be surprised if they work for ICE. That’s if Zimmerman isn’t in prison.
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According to the Interwebs Zimmerman is homeless and can’t find a job.
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37 year old white soccer mom decides to cosplay and block the roadway - or as Kristi Noem calls it "An act of domestic terrorism".
Timothy McVeigh - Domestic Terrorism
37 year old White soccer mom blocks the road in protest of ICE arrests - Not Domestic Terrorism
The adults and many children who died in the Oklahoma City bombing were DOA. In this incident, the ICE officers could have trivially de-escalated this situation. 33 dead and 660 injured in Oklahoma City. In Minneapolis today, a woman was trying to stop some people from getting hassled or arrested. ICE could have just waited it out. Poor training. The ICE officers are the ones cosplaying here.
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Have to say Murph's video makes it a lot more of a closer call....
I agree but let's wait for more context and investigation. Too bad Ice Barbie hasn't learned anything from Keystone Kash's fuck ups trying to get ahead of story-lines. The clown car continues.
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Have to say Murph's video makes it a lot more of a closer call....
The officer's body cam video will tell the tale. It might not be made public because it would have caught the shot and impact.
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The officer's body cam video will tell the tale. It might not be made public because it would have caught the shot and impact.
As if it were even turned on…
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According to the Interwebs Zimmerman is homeless and can’t find a job.
Not sure I believe this. Gonna need some more credible sources/evidence…
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Not sure I believe this. Gonna need some more credible sources/evidence…
“According to the Interwebs”
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As opposed to: George Zimmerman IS homeless and can’t find a job.
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As opposed to: George Zimmerman IS homeless and can’t find a job.
I didn’t say I don’t believe it, just gonna need some more credible sources…
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If we want to play Pragmatic, maybe she doesn’t cosplay and fuck with federal agents, which accomplishes absolutely nothing. Can’t wait for more martyring of loser deadbeats and traffic blockers.
The protestors at The Boston Massacre deserved what they had coming!
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I agree but let's wait for more context and investigation. Too bad Ice Barbie hasn't learned anything from Keystone Kash's fuck ups trying to get ahead of story-lines. The clown car continues.
Either way, the cop was "out of the way" of the car or else it would have made shooting at the driver tougher. Nonetheless, don't give the cops the excuse to shoot you by driving towards them because you will not be facing a Cook County jury who will give your family millions.
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Either way, the cop was "out of the way" of the car or else it would have made shooting at the driver tougher. Nonetheless, don't give the cops the excuse to shoot you by driving towards them because you will not be facing a Cook County jury who will give your family millions.
I'm not an expert on this but, doesn't it seem sensible when approaching a problem/erratic driver to do so from the sides not front and back? Just guessing here that when this all comes out, we'll be questioning the training. There's a lot of newbies wearing masks.
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I'm not an expert on this but, doesn't it seem sensible when approaching a problem/erratic driver to do so from the sides not front and back? Just guessing here that when this all comes out, we'll be questioning the training. There's a lot of newbies wearing masks.
Neither am I. If stopped for a traffic stop the cops do not stand in front of your car. They looked to be planning on making an arrest by directing her to get out of the car though.
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The protestors at The Boston Massacre deserved what they had coming!
Yeah not even remotely comparable
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Either way, the cop was "out of the way" of the car or else it would have made shooting at the driver tougher. Nonetheless, don't give the cops the excuse to shoot you by driving towards them because you will not be facing a Cook County jury who will give your family millions.
Same point I was trying to make. Don’t drive your vehicle at the agent with the gun pointed at you. But glad Walz is out in front of the messaging!
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Yeah not even remotely comparable
Actually, you are correct. The crowd there was 4-500 and they were MF'ing the British troops while hitting them with clubs, rocks, and snowballs.
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Same point I was trying to make. Don’t drive your vehicle at the agent with the gun pointed at you. But glad Walz is out in front of the messaging!
Doesn't mean it wasn't completely horrendous policing tactics.
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Neither am I. If stopped for a traffic stop the cops do not stand in front of your car. They looked to be planning on making an arrest by directing her to get out of the car though.
I'm not an expert but you can spot several clear flaws here. If you step in front of that car, you're basically committing yourself to shooting the occupant. If you don't think that's a reasonable outcome to the situation, don't step in front of the car. If you do, might as well just shoot first, THEN step in front of the car.
If the occupant of the car was a "danger" - a "domestic terrorist" - what the holy hell is that other officer doing walking right up to the driver's side door and trying to open the car door. Trained officers do not approach a car like that and say (quote) "Get out of the fucking car". What if the driver had a gun? If you are so unworried that the driver has a gun that you just wander up to the car and grab the door handle - why would you be afraid they are going to try to intentionally run you over? The cop in front pulled a gun, and the driver freaked the fuck out. I've had a gun pointed at me and I sure as hell freaked the fuck out. I didn't calmly negotiate the situation. The cops asked me to describe the person with the gun, I said "Male". That's all I remembered. "What color?" - "I don't know". "How tall" - "I don't know".
The longer form video shows a lot more.
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Same point I was trying to make. Don’t drive your vehicle at the agent with the gun pointed at you. But glad Walz is out in front of the messaging!
Have you ever had a gun pointed at you, in a situation where you didn't expect that to happen?
If not, shut the fuck up.
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I'm not an expert but you can spot several clear flaws here. If you step in front of that car, you're basically committing yourself to shooting the occupant. If you don't think that's a reasonable outcome to the situation, don't step in front of the car. If you do, might as well just shoot first, THEN step in front of the car.
If the occupant of the car was a "danger" - a "domestic terrorist" - what the holy hell is that other officer doing walking right up to the driver's side door and trying to open the car door. Trained officers do not approach a car like that and say (quote) "Get out of the fucking car". What if the driver had a gun? If you are so unworried that the driver has a gun that you just wander up to the car and grab the door handle - why would you be afraid they are going to try to intentionally run you over? The cop in front pulled a gun, and the driver freaked the fuck out. I've had a gun pointed at me and I sure as hell freaked the fuck out. I didn't calmly negotiate the situation. The cops asked me to describe the person with the gun, I said "Male". That's all I remembered. "What color?" - "I don't know". "How tall" - "I don't know".
The longer form video shows a lot more.
I would think you stand in front of the car if you are making an arrest to prevent the driver from fleeing. Not saying it is the smartest move or what they teach you at "the academy." Plenty of morons out there, including those who do not care. Even purported 37 year old white lesbians.
The "new angle" here certainly looks like she hit/brushed the cop.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15443231/minneapolis-ice-shooting-victim-wife-screams.html
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Same point I was trying to make. Don’t drive your vehicle at the agent with the gun pointed at you. But glad Walz is out in front of the messaging!
Note also - three shots fired. Two of them after the vehicle passed the ICE officer - and the driver could not in any way be construed as a threat to the shooter.
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Have you ever had a gun pointed at you, in a situation where you didn't expect that to happen?
If not, shut the fuck up.
By ICE? No. Sure as shit would not start driving away and hit/almost hit an ICE or police officer though. I am not that big of a self-entitled jackass.
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Note also - three shots fired. Two of them after the vehicle passed the ICE officer - and the driver could not in any way be construed as a threat to the shooter.
Maybe the next poet will comply with the law enforcement directive to get out of the car.
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I would think you stand in front of the car if you are making an arrest to prevent the driver from fleeing.
If you absolutely need to prevent the driver from fleeing, at that point you've committed to shooting the driver if needed - "Stop or I'll shoot". That would only apply if the driver was clearly a downstream threat if they flee.
This case is far closer to situations where officer training dictates that they disengage from high speed chases so they don't cause collateral damage beyond the value of apprehending the person fleeing. Let her go. Body cam has the license plate, and image of the driver. If there is a reason to arrest her, she'll be trivially located. This was not "Stop or I'll shoot" worthy.
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By ICE? No. Sure as shit would not start driving away and hit/almost hit an ICE or police officer though. I am not that big of a self-entitled jackass.
I'm telling you - a gun is pointed at you - imminent chance of your life being ended - and rational thought is gone.
Hell, when I was a teenager, I was taking a piss behind a 7-11, I see a car driving down the alley, zip up and start to walk away. Car speeds up - I start to run. I hear someone running after me, when I get to the front of the 7-11, hear someone yelling "something", I stop, turn around, it's a cop. He has a walkie talkie in his hand, I thought it was a gun, I said "Holy shit don't shoot me". He says "It's just a radio kid". I don't think my HR went under 190 for the next half hour.
Not one part of that whole interaction made any sense, I was just in lizard mode. Now imagine some dude in body armor is yelling expletives at you, his buddy has a gun pointed at you. At that point, it's not thought, it's random instinct, "I want to get the hell away from here". Might be someone who's never seen a gun before in their life.
That's why we train police officers, because civilians are NOT trained.
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If you absolutely need to prevent the driver from fleeing, at that point you've committed to shooting the driver if needed - "Stop or I'll shoot". That would only apply if the driver was clearly a downstream threat if they flee.
This case is far closer to situations where officer training dictates that they disengage from high speed chases so they don't cause collateral damage beyond the value of apprehending the person fleeing. Let her go. Body cam has the license plate, and image of the driver. If there is a reason to arrest her, she'll be trivially located. This was not "Stop or I'll shoot" worthy.
As previously noted, it does not appear to be good, appropriate, or even wise, policing strategy. Nevertheless, don't be a dumbass especially when everyone knows these ICE dudes are poorly trained and don't give a shit about shooting someone. If you are engaging in "civil disobedience" you are supposed to be willing to pay the price. Not that the current clowns in the DOJ ever can convict any of the "domestic terrorists" who are protesting ICE.
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I'm telling you - a gun is pointed at you - imminent chance of your life being ended - and rational thought is gone.
Hell, when I was a teenager, I was taking a piss behind a 7-11, I see a car driving down the alley, zip up and start to walk away. Car speeds up - I start to run. I hear someone running after me, when I get to the front of the 7-11, hear someone yelling "something", I stop, turn around, it's a cop. He has a walkie talkie in his hand, I thought it was a gun, I said "Holy shit don't shoot me". He says "It's just a radio kid". I don't think my HR went under 190 for the next half hour.
Not one part of that whole interaction made any sense, I was just in lizard mode. Now imagine some dude in body armor is yelling expletives at you, his buddy has a gun pointed at you. At that point, it's not thought, it's random instinct, "I want to get the hell away from here". Might be someone who's never seen a gun before in their life.
That's why we train police officers, because civilians are NOT trained.
One, you were a white teenager. Probably why you are alive.
Two, these are ICE officers. They are recruited via Soviet style propaganda TV ads. Half of them appear to be using their own cars. What training do you think they actually have had?
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Two, these are ICE officers. They are recruited via Soviet style propaganda TV ads. Half of them appear to be using their own cars. What training do you think they actually have had?
Yes. Any response that calls the driver a dumbass, misses the point. We have crazy dumbasses who played HS Football until they flunked out in their Junior year, and have been sitting in the basement watching porn and drinking beer, running around the country with guns taking orders from Stephen Miller. That's the problem. Full stop/.
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I didn’t say I don’t believe it, just gonna need some more credible sources…
Well you are free to look for them. It's not my job.
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Well you are free to look for them. It's not my job.
Just everyone else’s to go back 3-5 years to prove a college basketball game was lost on FT’s… LOLOLOLOL
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Dude was trigger happy. First shot maybe justified. The next 3 she's not a threat to him.
https://x.com/i/status/2009048220069187741
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Just everyone else’s to go back 3-5 years to prove a college basketball game was lost on FT’s… LOLOLOLOL
Well they made false claims. They didn't have to go back, but they did. If you're going to make a claim in an argument you should be willing to do some legwork to support it.
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How fucking difficult is that concept?
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Well they made false claims. They didn't have to go back, but they did. If you're going to make a claim in an argument you should be willing to do some legwork to support it.
Fair enough, goose…
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If you're going to make the claim games were lost due to FT shooting, show me which freaking ones. That's not a huge ask.
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If you're going to make the claim games were lost due to FT shooting, show me which freaking ones. That's not a huge ask.
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Have you ever had a gun pointed at you, in a situation where you didn't expect that to happen?
If not, shut the fuck up.
About 40 something years ago I was pulled over by a smokey and quickly surrounded by multiple smokies and county mounties with multiple guns pointed at me. A man who looked like me and drove a similar car had robbed a bank in the general area a short time earlier.
My training in Buddhist practices came in handy. Stayed in the car, remained fairly calm, kept my hands up on the steering wheel where they could see them. Waited.
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I’ve had a gun pointed at me. Do not recommend.
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About 40 something years ago I was pulled over by a smokey and quickly surrounded by multiple smokies and county mounties with multiple guns pointed at me. A man who looked like me and drove a similar car had robbed a bank in the general area a short time earlier.
My training in Buddhist practices came in handy. Stayed in the car, remained fairly calm, kept my hands up on the steering wheel where they could see them. Waited.
The handbook indicates that white bad guys are to be apprehended, black bad guys shot on sight.
White women, it depends on if they might be a Democrat. Or a Lesbian.
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I have had a gun pulled on me three different times. Two times were by black guys thinking they were tough. The other time was by five cops and told to slowly get out of my car with my hands where they can be seen and to get on the ground face down…
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Yes. Any response that calls the driver a dumbass, misses the point. We have crazy dumbasses who played HS Football until they flunked out in their Junior year, and have been sitting in the basement watching porn and drinking beer, running around the country with guns taking orders from Stephen Miller. That's the problem. Full stop/.
Doesn't mean she wasn't as much as a dumbass as they are. Sure seemingly like Darwinism took care of her, as unfortunate as that may be.
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Just everyone else’s to go back 3-5 years to prove a college basketball game was lost on FT’s… LOLOLOLOL
Exactly. Maybe make the claim within 12 months instead of disingenuously trying to play gotcha 3 years later. Even then the frosh big claim was disproven.
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Well they made false claims. They didn't have to go back, but they did. If you're going to make a claim in an argument you should be willing to do some legwork to support it.
LOL.. you should be willing to actually call it out contemporaneously right after the season is played when it is fresh in everyone's mind instead of playing your disingenuous games years later.
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If you're going to make the claim games were lost due to FT shooting, show me which freaking ones. That's not a huge ask.
How about making the argument at the fucking time instead of 3 years later? We watched the games at the time.
How ludicrous.
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Exactly. Maybe make the claim within 12 months instead of disingenuously trying to play gotcha 3 years later. Even then the frosh big claim was disproven.
I told you a very long time ago. I was mistaken on the "bigs," minus Dainja. But it was all inexperienced players that did the damage. Keep on strawmanning, though.
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About 40 something years ago I was pulled over by a smokey and quickly surrounded by multiple smokies and county mounties with multiple guns pointed at me. A man who looked like me and drove a similar car had robbed a bank in the general area a short time earlier.
My training in Buddhist practices came in handy. Stayed in the car, remained fairly calm, kept my hands up on the steering wheel where they could see them. Waited.
The rest of the story is eventually all the cops left. The one that pulled me over explained what happened and apologized. The bank robber was apprehended on another road a few miles away.
I had guns pulled on me 4: different times while running debits. One time on hill in Joliet.
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I have had a gun pulled on me three different times. Two times were by black guys thinking they were tough. The other time was by five cops and told to slowly get out of my car with my hands where they can be seen and to get on the ground face down…
So two black guys tried to steal your meth, then the cops arrested you for your meth.
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Doesn't mean she wasn't as much as a dumbass as they are. Sure seemingly like Darwinism took care of her, as unfortunate as that may be.
My money is on "she was scared shitless and hit the gas pedal". Sometimes the simplest explanation is the correct one.
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Actually, you are correct. The crowd there was 4-500 and they were MF'ing the British troops while hitting them with clubs, rocks, and snowballs.
Yeah and how’d it work out for them? There are more tactical and strategic ways to make a stand.
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Doesn't mean it wasn't completely horrendous policing tactics.
I didn’t argue otherwise. Actually agree with most here that ICE shouldn’t be putting themselves and civilians in these situations. Whatever they were trying to accomplish could have waited.
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Eyewitnesses have said that the woman appeared to be obviously trying to block ICE vehicles attempting to leave the area. She was also blocking traffic on a north-south artery.
Don't block traffic. That's a crime.
She had been following ICE all morning. Allegedly she was being filmed by her significant other who was outside of the vehicle and filming. For what ? Tik Tok ?
Now she leaves behind a 6 year old with no parents.
Don't follow ICE around.
She wouldn't obey commands, put the truck in reverse, then in drive and hit the gas.
Don't flee from police. That's a crime when you've already committed a crime.
She was heading straight towards the law enforcement official with a lethal weapon. The official had no idea what the woman was going to do. The official is experienced and followed training. The official doesn't get the advantage of hindsight.
The official is apparently a member of the same Border Patrol group that went into the school in Uvalde when local police were insufficient.
There have been 3 incidents of ICE vehicles being rammed recently in Minneapolis recently. A man was charged yesterday with ramming a vehicle and biting an officer. A suspected illegal immigrant was detained by ICE yesterday.
The Governor and the Mayor have continually supported protestors and are now balancing time between explaining away their fraud industry and the sanctity of the Minneapolis sanctuary city status when they're not acting like emotional 12 year olds. Sanctuary status reduces the places where murder suspects, rapists, sexual predators etc may be detained.
Nobody understands why criminals are being protected from apprehension.
Walz said the National Guard is on call. But, if needed, to protect the citizens from "rogue" ICE agents.
To say their rhetoric has been irresponsible would be kind. It's been reckless.
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Eyewitnesses have said that the woman appeared to be obviously trying to block ICE vehicles attempting to leave the area.
Blah blah blah bullshit blah blah blah blah blah bullshit fuckery
In Honor of Jobu I will say to you - SHUT THE FUCK UP.
You really are a fucking moron. I don't mean that in a shitposting jovial way. You are a fucking moron. Even Custard, despite Tempo's protestations isn't a fucking moron, because he's just a shitposting edgelord who probably doesn't believe anything he posts, he just digs getting into Tempo. You however, are a fucking moron.
Well Tim Walz is retiring. Say hello to your new Governor Jacob Frey.
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She was heading straight towards the law enforcement official with a lethal weapon.
That's bullshit
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Have you ever had a gun pointed at you, in a situation where you didn't expect that to happen?
If not, shut the fuck up.
Have you ever had someone try and run you over while you’re attempting to do your job as an armed agent?
If not, shut the fuck up.
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Have you ever had someone try and run you over while you’re attempting to do your job as an armed agent?
If not, shut the fuck up.
Show me video evidence that Good was trying to run the ICE agent over. She actually turned to avoid him..
As MN pointed out, she broke a couple laws. Those were not capital crimes.
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So two black guys tried to steal your meth, then the cops arrested you for your meth.
LOL. Never touched the stuff…
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Have you ever had someone try and run you over while you’re attempting to do your job as an armed agent?
If not, shut the fuck up.
Shitposting edgelord
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LOL. Never touched the stuff…
You're more of a heroin girl, eh
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You're more of a heroin girl, eh
Nope. They/Them, we might be here all night playing this game…
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Very well said regarding incident…
https://x.com/curtishouck/status/2009112252511633766?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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He ain’t wrong. This ain’t a game…
https://x.com/theofficertatum/status/2009083139789087038?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Yep…
https://x.com/gunthereagleman/status/2009039381844107299?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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In Honor of Jobu I will say to you - SHUT THE FUCK UP.
You really are a fucking moron. I don't mean that in a shitposting jovial way. You are a fucking moron. Even Custard, despite Tempo's protestations isn't a fucking moron, because he's just a shitposting edgelord who probably doesn't believe anything he posts, he just digs getting into Tempo. You however, are a fucking moron.
Well Tim Walz is retiring. Say hello to your new Governor Jacob Frey.
Nah, I’m pretty sure Custard believes 90% of what he posts. Strangely enough, I don’t think he’s a moron. He’s just a contrarian who was probably raised in a very conservative household. Father was probably a Bircher.
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The only thing I’m sure of in that shooting is that two of shots came when she was of no threat to that “officer” at all.
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Nah, I’m pretty sure Custard believes 90% of what he posts. Strangely enough, I don’t think he’s a moron. He’s just a contrarian who was probably raised in a very conservative household. Father was probably a Bircher.
You know, fluoride being a communist plot type stuff.
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And Custard probably adopted slightly more moderate positions which is probably why Custard thinks he’s a “moderate.”
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There was a time in my younger years where Custard and I would have been simpatico, but then Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders touched me with their noodly appendages.
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The new California rich people tax seems to have Murph on edge.
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Very well said regarding incident…
https://x.com/curtishouck/status/2009112252511633766?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
"I understand they don't like the fact that these agents are enforcing existing immigration law, but that's not how we change laws in this country. If you don't like law, you talk to the politicians. You don't drive your car into the middle of a building or a law enforcement situation that's being occupied by the people who are simply there to enforce the law. If I don't like how much the IRS is charging me in taxes, I don't drive my car into the Treasury Department try to run somebody over. I call my congressman."
"Political vigilantism is being encouraged by Democratic officials like the lieutenant governor of Minnesota, Peggy Flanagan, who earlier this year told people to 'put your bodies on the line' and Tim Walz calling these guys gestapo all year. What do you think happens when you radicalize a base of people about this?"
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That's bullshit
I just watched the video about 20 more times. Her front tires are definitely pointed straight forward when the vehicle appears to make contact with the agent/he fires his first shot. Then the front wheels end up turned to the right after that. I don’t know her intent but I wouldn’t say it’s “bullshit” to say she went straight toward him.
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Eyewitnesses have said that the woman appeared to be obviously trying to block ICE vehicles attempting to leave the area. She was also blocking traffic on a north-south artery.
Don't block traffic. That's a crime.
She had been following ICE all morning. Allegedly she was being filmed by her significant other who was outside of the vehicle and filming. For what ? Tik Tok ?
Now she leaves behind a 6 year old with no parents.
Don't follow ICE around.
She wouldn't obey commands, put the truck in reverse, then in drive and hit the gas.
Don't flee from police. That's a crime when you've already committed a crime.
She was heading straight towards the law enforcement official with a lethal weapon. The official had no idea what the woman was going to do. The official is experienced and followed training. The official doesn't get the advantage of hindsight.
The official is apparently a member of the same Border Patrol group that went into the school in Uvalde when local police were insufficient.
There have been 3 incidents of ICE vehicles being rammed recently in Minneapolis recently. A man was charged yesterday with ramming a vehicle and biting an officer. A suspected illegal immigrant was detained by ICE yesterday.
The Governor and the Mayor have continually supported protestors and are now balancing time between explaining away their fraud industry and the sanctity of the Minneapolis sanctuary city status when they're not acting like emotional 12 year olds. Sanctuary status reduces the places where murder suspects, rapists, sexual predators etc may be detained.
Nobody understands why criminals are being protected from apprehension.
Walz said the National Guard is on call. But, if needed, to protect the citizens from "rogue" ICE agents.
To say their rhetoric has been irresponsible would be kind. It's been reckless.
I just knew this would make murph lose his mind before I even saw him lose his mind
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The new California rich people tax seems to have Murph on edge.
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Hope he doesn’t have to sell one of his houses!
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I just watched the video about 20 more times. Her front tires are definitely pointed straight forward when the vehicle appears to make contact with the agent/he fires his first shot. Then the front wheels end up turned to the right after that. I don’t know her intent but I wouldn’t say it’s “bullshit” to say she went straight toward him.
Warning: white woman on TikTok (don’t worry, she doesn’t give us a football take).
https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/2009226076921434136?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You know, fluoride being a communist plot type stuff.
Dad was a farmer and Mom was the youngest daughter of a Democrat union electrician in K3. We weren’t really the kind of family that even talked about politics and I didn’t really begin to understand the differences between conservatives and liberals until I was in college. It just wasn’t even on my radar. The 90s were a hell of a time to grow up, especially in a small town.
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Warning: white woman on TikTok (don’t worry, she doesn’t give us a football take).
https://x.com/mmpadellan/status/2009226076921434136?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Ugh women like that are the worst thing to come from the feminist movement, but at least she doesn’t have a septum piercing and blue hair.
Here’s a better take from the comments
https://x.com/pixel_preet/status/2009254370186031264?s=46
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Dad was a farmer and Mom was the youngest daughter of a Democrat union electrician in K3. We weren’t really the kind of family that even talked about politics and I didn’t really begin to understand the differences between conservatives and liberals until I was in college. It just wasn’t even on my radar. The 90s were a hell of a time to grow up, especially in a small town.
Respect to your parents.
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I just watched the video about 20 more times. Her front tires are definitely pointed straight forward when the vehicle appears to make contact with the agent/he fires his first shot. Then the front wheels end up turned to the right after that. I don’t know her intent but I wouldn’t say it’s “bullshit” to say she went straight toward him.
This shows it from three angles.
Videos Contradict Trump Administration Account of ICE Shooting in Minneapolis https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html?smid=nytcore-android-share
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https://x.com/thelaurenchen/status/2009077386566840768?s=46
(https://i.ibb.co/MDtbMQjy/IMG-2278.jpg) (https://ibb.co/N6JXZbkg)
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Yep…
https://x.com/gunthereagleman/status/2009039381844107299?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I couldn't care less what that idiot has to say.
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There was a time in my younger years where Custard and I would have been simpatico, but then Dennis Kucinich and Bernie Sanders touched me with their noodly appendages.
Kucinich wasn't very good.
Bernie wants people to have better lives, he just isn't very dialed in on what that means or how to get there. Which is still a huge upgrade from a Trump, who doesn't give a shit.
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The new California rich people tax seems to have Murph on edge.
I'm with JHH
https://www.wsj.com/business/nvidia-jensen-huang-california-wealth-tax-36db6618?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqd1o0sYXt2zNKjPpNEAuPmPt_vsZh354-q2am19k0wy1GZe2vmZr-sLjH43S88%3D&gaa_ts=695fda2c&gaa_sig=-XSg3G3-naymM37SDrNWghE39GtF7SMJXtW3L66XtcZWQrx5eG2tA6nCwl2hFY7ilLNPbFPG9rz6x72kdqx7Yg%3D%3D
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This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…
https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Around 2003-2004 I was at a speaking engagement featuring Kucinich. He was a very good speaker. I was already leaning to the left by that point, but it’s about right here I decided I was all in.
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Obama deported 3 million without sending out masked thugs to instigate shit.
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This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…
https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Notice rather than try to get out of the way he pulls his pistol and braces himself. At best, his first shot was justifiable.
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Kucinich wasn't very good.
Bernie wants people to have better lives, he just isn't very dialed in on what that means or how to get there. Which is still a huge upgrade from a Trump, who doesn't give a shit.
I can agree with your conclusion on Bernie. I remember his debate against Biden when Covid just started raging and he inexplicably focused on his well regarded billionaire criticisms instead of laying out why universal healthcare is so beneficial. Huge opportunity missed. I was scratching my head during and after that debate.
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This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…
https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
This reminds of replays where different camera angles are contradictory. The NYT synchs that with other videos. It's a misleading angle. Other angled show she didn't hit him. He was clear of the vehicle when he fired the first shot.
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I just watched the video about 20 more times. Her front tires are definitely pointed straight forward when the vehicle appears to make contact with the agent/he fires his first shot. Then the front wheels end up turned to the right after that. I don’t know her intent but I wouldn’t say it’s “bullshit” to say she went straight toward him.
If you watched it 20 times, then you should understand that these ICE guys would make the Keystone Kops look like the top policing force of all time.
Before we even get into the shooter - who was shooting at a moving car with bystanders in the vicinity (a clear no-no) - let's look at the dude who was driving the truck. He pulls up, hops out of his RV, and rushes to her car, yelling "Get out of the fucking car" and tries to open the door. There is so much wrong there.
If the person in the car was armed, he just got shot, by approaching the car in a non-defensive position. But he didn't approach the car in a defensive position because he *knew* the occupant was just some middle class white lady he figured he could push around. As such, he can calmly approach the car and request that she exit the vehicle. *IF* he were a cop, which he is not. He is Immigration Customs Enforcement, which doesn't have the authority to do policing actions like that. What do they do if she gets out of the car? They don't have authority to arrest her.
And *if* there was a reason to order her out of the car. Dubious at best. A trained officer would have approached the car, and made a request that the driver move her car.
The shooter didn't get out of the truck - he was already on the street and knew exactly what kind of player the driver of the car was. There was no reason to engage with gun play. Stay away from the car, have one officer approach and calmly engage.
These ICE guys are cosplaying as Navy Seals, and it just keeps going badly.
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This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…
https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Careful. The official MAGA line is "it is not appropriate to swear, like that commie Minneapolis Mayor does"
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Notice rather than try to get out of the way he pulls his pistol and braces himself. At best, his first shot was justifiable.
https://x.com/i/status/2009289807764312424
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If you watched it 20 times, then you should understand that these ICE guys would make the Keystone Kops look like the top policing force of all time.
Before we even get into the shooter - who was shooting at a moving car with bystanders in the vicinity (a clear no-no) - let's look at the dude who was driving the truck. He pulls up, hops out of his RV, and rushes to her car, yelling "Get out of the fucking car" and tries to open the door. There is so much wrong there.
If the person in the car was armed, he just got shot, by approaching the car in a non-defensive position. But he didn't approach the car in a defensive position because he *knew* the occupant was just some middle class white lady he figured he could push around. As such, he can calmly approach the car and request that she exit the vehicle. *IF* he were a cop, which he is not. He is Immigration Customs Enforcement, which doesn't have the authority to do policing actions like that. What do they do if she gets out of the car? They don't have authority to arrest her.
And *if* there was a reason to order her out of the car. Dubious at best. A trained officer would have approached the car, and made a request that the driver move her car.
The shooter didn't get out of the truck - he was already on the street and knew exactly what kind of player the driver of the car was. There was no reason to engage with gun play. Stay away from the car, have one officer approach and calmly engage.
These ICE guys are cosplaying as Navy Seals, and it just keeps going badly.
I have already said I didn’t feel like they had any business trying to arrest this woman or force her out of her vehicle. They aren’t trained to handle things like this, and obviously it went sideways in a hurry.
I also think that if you’re going to fuck around, you might find out.
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This reminds of replays where different camera angles are contradictory. The NYT synchs that with other videos. It's a misleading angle. Other angled show she didn't hit him. He was clear of the vehicle when he fired the first shot.
How could one angle show the car hitting him and another show it not hitting him? Subtle nuances are one thing, but that feels pretty cut and dried. Having to sync up three separate videos also really should draw some attention to the fact that these people have to make split second decisions that are life or death. We see officials get it wrong in sports all the time, but under the scrutiny of slow motion replay, we can start to suss out some details that weren’t apparent in real time. That’s what gets lost in all of this. I hate that this happened and I don’t think they should’ve been trying to detain this woman. She also shouldn’t have been impeding federal officials trying to do their jobs while her wife filmed this for maximum dramatic effect
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Jon Stewart on the Gulf of America, not not that one ; firehttps://x.com/thedailyshow/status/2009294527412998191?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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instead of laying out why universal healthcare is so beneficial. Huge opportunity missed. I was scratching my head during and after that debate.
The reason universal health care never happens is because for someone to run for office and win, the primary traits needed are narcissism and charisma, not intelligence and an ability to adroitly explain why a policy is good to someone by meeting them where they are.
Bernie - over and over - "Health care is a human right". That does pretty well with someone struggling to pay their health insurance. But if someone has a job with good insurance, all they hear is "I want to increase your taxes".
If you instead make sure you discuss things like small businesses and entrepreneurs being more able to start and run businesses because they aren't trying to navigate employee heath insurance, or would be more able to hire workers from larger firms - who would otherwise stay put just because of health insurance - in order to grow their small businesses, you win. Show how much profit health insurance companies have made over the last few years, make it clear that the government is not for profit so all those shareholder profits and CEO pay packages would now be used to pay for health care and prescriptions, and we can use that savings to instead have thousands of people being paid to deny claims, just cover the claims. That people who get sick and go into medical bankruptcy end up being a drag on the economy, instead of simply taking care of them so they can get back to producing for the economy.
Nichi is 10x as good at explaining it than any politician.
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I have already said I didn’t feel like they had any business trying to arrest this woman or force her out of her vehicle. They aren’t trained to handle things like this, and obviously it went sideways in a hurry.
I also think that if you’re going to fuck around, you might find out.
Just end it at the first paragraph. Throwing in the second paragraph just enables Trump and Noem to keep the status quo, because it's good for them to have this chaos to distract from having sex with children and shooting puppies.
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The reason universal health care never happens is because for someone to run for office and win, the primary traits needed are narcissism and charisma, not intelligence and an ability to adroitly explain why a policy is good to someone by meeting them where they are.
Bernie - over and over - "Health care is a human right". That does pretty well with someone struggling to pay their health insurance. But if someone has a job with good insurance, all they hear is "I want to increase your taxes".
If you instead make sure you discuss things like small businesses and entrepreneurs being more able to start and run businesses because they aren't trying to navigate employee heath insurance, or would be more able to hire workers from larger firms - who would otherwise stay put just because of health insurance - in order to grow their small businesses, you win. Show how much profit health insurance companies have made over the last few years, make it clear that the government is not for profit so all those shareholder profits and CEO pay packages would now be used to pay for health care and prescriptions, and we can use that savings to instead have thousands of people being paid to deny claims, just cover the claims. That people who get sick and go into medical bankruptcy end up being a drag on the economy, instead of simply taking care of them so they can get back to producing for the economy.
Nichi is 10x as good at explaining it than any politician.
They’d also have to figure out how to win a major election with no backing from the healthcare or insurance lobbies.
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Having to sync up three separate videos also really should draw some attention to the fact that these people have to make split second decisions that are life or death.
That’s what gets lost in all of this. I hate that this happened and I don’t think they should’ve been trying to detain this woman.
No. They don't have to make those split second decisions. Trump and Noem have chosen to put them into the spot where they have to make these sorts of decisions by hiring incompetent boobs, not training them, giving them guns, and sending them out to "kick some ass" - which is not the job of law enforcement.
We sort of learned that lesson at Kent State, and Trump is trying to erase that institutional memory. No ICE arrest that was gonna happen that day is worth conflict. If they were going after an active shooter, say for example at a LDS Ward in Salt Lake City (oh yeah, another mass shooting), and someone was getting in the way of it, then we have a problem. The Mexican Nanny? She'll be there tomorrow to arrest long after Renee Good has lost interest and moved on to the next cause.
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They’d also have to figure out how to win a major election with no backing from the healthcare or insurance lobbies.
Now you're starting to get it.
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How could one angle show the car hitting him and another show it not hitting him?
The one camera angle from down the street sort of makes it look like she hit him, but when it's synched, you can tell she didn't. Part of the problem is it's sped up and blurred. Even at that, it shows her vehicle turned.
None of us are experts. My take is he could have moved out of the way. He chose to hold his ground and fired three shots in rapid succession. The first through the windshield. The other two through the driver's side window. That would indicate she was turning.
I would say by preponderance of the evidence the agent is civilly liable for a wrongful death. Maybe Noem too.
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The one camera angle from down the street sort of makes it look like she hit him, but when it's synched, you can tell she didn't. Part of the problem is it's sped up and blurred. Even at that, it shows her vehicle turning.
None of us are experts. My take is he could have move out of the way. He chose to hold his ground and fired three shots in rapid succession. The first through the windshield. The other two through the driver's side window. That would indicate she was turning.
I would say by preponderance of the evidence the agent is civilly liable for a wrongful death. Maybe Noem too.
The fact we might be arguing this shows just how out of her depth Kristi Noem is. Incident was still frothing and Noem gets up and says that Renee Good was a domestic terrorist. She's the top of DHS and one of her charges at ICE was just in an officer involved shooting resulting in death. Anyone who belongs in her job simply says "We are aware of the ongoing situation in Minneapolis, and are investigating it thoroughly and will have more comment when we know more"
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The fact we might be arguing this shows just how out of her depth Kristi Noem is. Incident was still frothing and Noem gets up and says that Renee Good was a domestic terrorist. She's the top of DHS and one of her charges at ICE was just in an officer involved shooting resulting in death. Anyone who belongs in her job simply says "We are aware of the ongoing situation in Minneapolis, and are investigating it thoroughly and will have more comment when we know more"
Maybe even offered condolences for the family of the deacesed?
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Maybe even offered condolences for the family of the deacesed?
"This appears, as an attempt to kill, or cause bodily harm, to the agents. An act of domestic terrorism. It is very clear that this individual was harassing and impeding law enforcement operations. Our officer followed his training. He did exactly what he's been taught to do in that situation, and took actions to defend himself"
- Kristi Noem
She doesn't feel the deceased deserves condolences, any more than someone who goes up and shoots up a school.
To say that this milquetoast lady specifically was trying to kill or injure that officer beggars all belief. Noem really is the worst.
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A couple of years ago I was almost t-boned by a woman who couldn't stop for her red light and slid halfway into the intersection. The turn lane she was in was icy.
This morning I saw a woman who had completely slid off of an icy entrance ramp to the interstate. She was still there about an hour later.
Tow trucks have probably been a little busy this morning.
You can see the front tires of the uncooperative to that point woman's truck spinning on ice yesterday. the tires appear to be headed towards the officer.
If the front tires would have been on dry pavement the officer wouldn't have had a chance.
Edited to add the red light that the woman slid thru.
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Obama deported 3 million without sending out masked thugs to instigate shit.
Because the Republicans hadn't set up sanctuary cities to protect invading hordes that they allowed in under their watch.
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Because the Republicans hadn't invented the fiction that set up sanctuary cities to protect invading hordes that they allowed in under their watch.
Sanctuary cities have existed for decades.
The Biden administration's total repatriations were higher than any single presidential term since George W. Bush's second term.
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A couple of years ago I was almost t-boned by a woman who slid halfway into the intersection. The turn lane she was in was icy.
This morning I saw a woman who had completely slid off of an icy entrance ramp to the interstate. She was still there about an hour later.
Tow trucks have probably been a little busy this morning.
You can see the front tires of the uncooperative to that point woman's truck spinning on ice yesterday. the tires appear to be headed towards the officer.
If the front tires would have been on dry pavement the officer wouldn't have had a chance.
I saw and thought the same thing.
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The reason universal health care never happens is because for someone to run for office and win, the primary traits needed are narcissism and charisma, not intelligence and an ability to adroitly explain why a policy is good to someone by meeting them where they are.
Bernie - over and over - "Health care is a human right". That does pretty well with someone struggling to pay their health insurance. But if someone has a job with good insurance, all they hear is "I want to increase your taxes".
If you instead make sure you discuss things like small businesses and entrepreneurs being more able to start and run businesses because they aren't trying to navigate employee heath insurance, or would be more able to hire workers from larger firms - who would otherwise stay put just because of health insurance - in order to grow their small businesses, you win. Show how much profit health insurance companies have made over the last few years, make it clear that the government is not for profit so all those shareholder profits and CEO pay packages would now be used to pay for health care and prescriptions, and we can use that savings to instead have thousands of people being paid to deny claims, just cover the claims. That people who get sick and go into medical bankruptcy end up being a drag on the economy, instead of simply taking care of them so they can get back to producing for the economy.
Nichi is 10x as good at explaining it than any politician.
I agree. And emphasize how many people are stuck in jobs they are unhappy at because they are afraid of losing their healthcare coverage. Real freedom is not having these fears.
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I agree. And emphasize how many people are stuck in jobs they are unhappy at because they are afraid of losing their healthcare coverage. Real freedom is not having these fears.
Germany has “free” college and healthcare at the expense of some of the highest effective tax rates in the world. 50-55% in many cases. Even with that level of taxation in a rich country, the cost of their welfare is putting major strain on their finances. Now they’re confronted with having to pay their fair share for NATO and self defense and there isn’t enough to go around. Our healthcare system is far from perfect, but I’m glad I’m in the situation I am now versus being in a Western European power collapsing under its own weight.
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This video sure shows her hitting him. Very sad what happened, but she FAFO. This isn’t a game and people think it is…
https://x.com/0hour1/status/2009263907102163442?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
This is a poor quality, sped up video. It is also after the vehicle had turned. Dismissed.
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Germany has “free” college and healthcare at the expense of some of the highest effective tax rates in the world. 50-55% in many cases. Even with that level of taxation in a rich country, the cost of their welfare is putting major strain on their finances. Now they’re confronted with having to pay their fair share for NATO and self defense and there isn’t enough to go around. Our healthcare system is far from perfect, but I’m glad I’m in the situation I am now versus being in a Western European power collapsing under its own weight.
LOL
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cost-of-living-income-quality-of-life/
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This is a poor quality, sped up video. It is also after the vehicle had turned. Dismissed.
Yeah, that video is about as real as PAMan’s grip on reality.
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LOL
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cost-of-living-income-quality-of-life/
They don't have freezers. My sister bitches about it all the time over there.
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Yeah, that video is about as real as PAMan’s grip on reality.
Must be realistic!
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A couple of years ago I was almost t-boned by a woman who slid halfway into the intersection. The turn lane she was in was icy.
Luckily her brakes were just enough to prevent a collision after you ran the red light.
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I agree. And emphasize how many people are stuck in jobs they are unhappy at because they are afraid of losing their healthcare coverage. Real freedom is not having these fears.
The problem with this emphasis is that it the corollary is that some people are stuck in marriages that are unhappy to keep the health insurance from their spouse, and that opens up a huge can of worms with MAGA. Except Custard, he's too much of a puss to make his woman an honest woman.
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https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Video from this angle sure looks like he wasn't hit as he was out of the way to shoot the 1st shot.
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Sure seems like the officer violated DHS policy...
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/dhs-policy-on-use-of-force-says-it-must-be-objectively-reasonable-cant-be-used-to-stop-someone-fleeing/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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one of my bigger takeaways from all this is that these ICE agents went to the John Kruk school of training. Just a bunch of fat tubs of goo
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one of my bigger takeaways from all this is that these ICE agents went to the John Kruk school of training. Just a bunch of fat tubs of goo
Don’t kid yourself, some of these guys have been training for this their whole lives.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkDyb0vx/IMG-4889.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RW6pkFcd)
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https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Video from this angle sure looks like he wasn't hit as he was out of the way to shoot the 1st shot.
I thought the front wheels were spinning and she was headed straight for the agent? I haven't seen that.
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I thought the front wheels were spinning and she was headed straight for the agent? I haven't seen that.
You can’t see the front wheels spin as she hit the gas? If she didn’t actually hit him it was *only* because of that momentary loss of traction.
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LOL
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/cost-of-living-income-quality-of-life/
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2025/09/12/in-germany-social-welfare-is-no-longer-sustainable_6745324_19.html
LOL
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Sure seems like the officer violated DHS policy...
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/dhs-policy-on-use-of-force-says-it-must-be-objectively-reasonable-cant-be-used-to-stop-someone-fleeing/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
Definitely wasn’t trying to stop her from fleeing and I don’t think anyone is arguing that in his defense.
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You can’t see the front wheels spin as she hit the gas? If she didn’t actually hit him it was *only* because of that momentary loss of traction.
I haven't seen any video that shows that.
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Definitely wasn’t trying to stop her from fleeing and I don’t think anyone is arguing that in his defense.
Are we even discussing the same incident?
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Now you're starting to get it.
I've had a pretty good understanding of how it works for a long while.
https://youtu.be/Nyvxt1svxso
You can either acknowledge the system for what it is and make it work for you, or you can spend a lifetime bitching and moaning about why it’s not better. Nothing short of a huge movement is going to upset the power balance and structure of this country and we aren’t even remotely close to that point. You and I chose the first option. Others choose the second and wonder why they can’t ever get ahead.
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Are we even discussing the same incident?
I believe so, yes. What am I missing?
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https://youtu.be/LdPtyJ78kl0
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If anyone has an SUV try calling a friend, or enemy, and ask him/her if he/she would stand in front of your left front tire.
Tell the person that once you hit the gas that they should bend over to see which way the tires are headed.
If the person lives thru it, you can do it again with a different scenario.
Ask the person to stand in front of the driver's side tire.
But this time, instead of bending over to look at the direction of the tires, when you hit the gas ask the person to assess whether you were going to run them over or if you had full intention of turning the steering wheel.
Give them about 1/4 second to answer.
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If anyone has an SUV try calling a friend, or enemy, and ask him/her if he/she would stand in front of your left front tire.
Tell the person that once you hit the gas that they should bend over to see which way the tires are headed.
If the person lives thru it, you can do it again with a different scenario.
Ask the person to stand in front of the driver's side tire.
But this time, instead of bending over to look at the direction of the tires, when you hit the gas ask the person to assess whether you were going to run them over or if you had full intention of turning the steering wheel.
Give them about 1/4 second to answer.
It does appear he had time to put his phone down and draw his weapon
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I thought the front wheels were spinning and she was headed straight for the agent? I haven't seen that.
The second and third shots from the agent were to make sure she was dead, so that she can't testify that she was trying to get away, not run over the agent. Looking at her background - "I kill cops" isn't in her resume, but on the stand, no jury gonna go "yup, this confused lesbian was going 'I wanna kill. I wanna KILL. I WANNA KILL'"
Look at the way the wheels were spinning all you want. Anyone who characterizes her as intending to kill the agent is a moron. The only way that you could come to the conclusion she was trying to hit the agent was that he had a gun and SHE was doing it in self defense. But that's not what happened. She was just some random lady scared out of her wits.
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If anyone has an SUV try calling a friend, or enemy, and ask him/her if he/she would stand in front of your left front tire.
Tell the person that once you hit the gas that they should bend over to see which way the tires are headed.
If the person lives thru it, you can do it again with a different scenario.
Ask the person to stand in front of the driver's side tire.
But this time, instead of bending over to look at the direction of the tires, when you hit the gas ask the person to assess whether you were going to run them over or if you had full intention of turning the steering wheel.
Give them about 1/4 second to answer.
1. wtf was he doing in front of the vehicle in the first place?
2. He had time to get out of the way even if the vehicle wasn't obviously turning
3. You don't need to look at the wheels to see a vehicle is turning
4. The vehicle was turning and the agent was clear when he fired the first shot.
5. By the time the 2nd shot was fired, the vehicle appears to have completed the turn.
6. Snap decisions have to be made. That is why you don't position yourself in front of a running vehicle.
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Definitely wasn’t trying to stop her from fleeing and I don’t think anyone is arguing that in his defense.
Correct.
She didn't roll down the window to say 'Mr. Officer, I'm not going to run you over, I'm just trying to flee.'
What the woman was, or wasn't thinking, is irrelevant.
And DHS policy may be to not shoot at a fleeing vehicle.
A lethal threat headed towards an officer is the issue. The woman is not on trial where her intent will be questioned.
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https://www.lemonde.fr/en/economy/article/2025/09/12/in-germany-social-welfare-is-no-longer-sustainable_6745324_19.html
LOL
Of course a right-winger is going to say that. We have right-wingers saying that here in America.
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I've had a pretty good understanding of how it works for a long while.
https://youtu.be/Nyvxt1svxso
You can either acknowledge the system for what it is and make it work for you, or you can spend a lifetime bitching and moaning about why it’s not better. Nothing short of a huge movement is going to upset the power balance and structure of this country and we aren’t even remotely close to that point. You and I chose the first option. Others choose the second and wonder why they can’t ever get ahead.
It’s amazing to me that Custard thinks George Carlin would be on his side or empathize with him. He loathed right-wingers and would be a leading anti-Trump critic if still alive.
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Bezos' Sucking Up Washington Post appears to disagree.....
https://archive.ph/Qtnp6
ICE agent was not in the vehicle’s path when he fired the fatal shots, video shows
A frame-by-frame analysis of video footage from Minneapolis raises questions about claims by President Donald Trump and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem.
Today at 8:25 a.m. EST
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If anyone has an SUV try calling a friend, or enemy, and ask him/her if he/she would stand in front of your left front tire.
Tell the person that once you hit the gas that they should bend over to see which way the tires are headed.
If the person lives thru it, you can do it again with a different scenario.
Ask the person to stand in front of the driver's side tire.
But this time, instead of bending over to look at the direction of the tires, when you hit the gas ask the person to assess whether you were going to run them over or if you had full intention of turning the steering wheel.
Give them about 1/4 second to answer.
Clearly the shooter would, because he chose to pull his weapon and brace himself rather than try to evade her.
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If an officer of the law shoots a "suspect" the intention or motive of the suspect is very relevant.
An officer can't go around shooting people in SUVs because he imagines they pose a lethal threat to him. His belief and actions have to be reasonable.
He placed himself in front of a running vehicle driven by a woman who was very likely frightened of him and the other ICE agents. If that was his training, his training sucks.
We don't know why the woman opened her window or what she may have said. It would be interesting. Maybe she said she was leaving and asked them to leave her alone.
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Vance said he has “absolute immunity.”
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Bezos' Sucking Up Washington Post appears to disagree.....
https://archive.ph/Qtnp6
ICE agent was not in the vehicle’s path when he fired the fatal shots, video shows
A frame-by-frame analysis of video footage from Minneapolis raises questions about claims by President Donald Trump and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi L. Noem.
Today at 8:25 a.m. EST
Inconvenient facts.
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I haven't seen any video showing the officer who shot approaching the vehicle from the driver side.
If he had something to do with the white SUV then he approached from the passenger side. During most of that time the woman wasn't moving or cooperating.
She then backed up, put the vehicle in drive and hit the gas.
He pulled his gun when she hit the gas. She spun the wheels on the ice. The officer was fortunate.
In the image, the wheels are headed pretty much straight toward him and he is pulling his gun. The other officer has his arm inside the driver side window.
Up to this point the woman had been following ICE, blocking traffic, obstructing ICE and non-cooperative.
The officer doesn't get to use hindsight, frame by frame analysis or read what the Twitter, Bluesky or the next day WaPo have to say.
(https://i.ibb.co/c03j90T/Screenshot-20260107-201037-Chrome.jpg) (https://imgbb.com/)
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Any disphit knows he wasn’t likely to be in serious harm. If you’re not willing to put yourself at risk, don’t sign up for the fucking job. Go work at Walmart.
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Don’t kid yourself, some of these guys have been training for this their whole lives.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkDyb0vx/IMG-4889.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RW6pkFcd)
🤔 As someone else said on here regarding evidence, I’d like to see a more credible source to confirm this…
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I’m sure you would. And Donald Trump has never been anything but a fair and honest businessman who’s nothing but respectful when it comes to women.
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Any disphit knows he wasn’t likely to be in serious harm. If you’re not willing to put yourself at risk, don’t sign up for the fucking job. Go work at Walmart.
"Likely" goes a long, long way here.
This is the same officer, dragged this past June.
Keep going, you're doing fine work.
https://x.com/i/status/2009323304574964111
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Anyone with even average lateral agility could have dodged that vehicle. He’d have been bumped and scraped at the very worst.
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"Likely" goes a long, long way here.
This is the same officer, dragged this past June.
Keep going, you're doing fine work.
https://x.com/i/status/2009323304574964111
Jesus fucking Christ, a few stitches? Fuck off. Try not standing in front of vehicles.
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Feds have frozen Minnesota out of the investigation. The right wing is pretty much endorsing the self defense/ domestic terrorist tale.
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Let’s wait until the guy recovers and gets out of the hospital before we claim something’s afoul, ok?
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"Likely" goes a long, long way here.
This is the same officer, dragged this past June.
Keep going, you're doing fine work.
https://x.com/i/status/2009323304574964111
If he was dragged in June; Renee Good deserved to die.
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If he was dragged in June; Renee Good deserved to die.
I wouldn't go quite that far.
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If anyone has an SUV try calling a friend, or enemy, and ask him/her if he/she would stand in front of your left front tire.
Tell the person that once you hit the gas that they should bend over to see which way the tires are headed.
If the person lives thru it, you can do it again with a different scenario.
Summary. This ICE agent was a moron, or suicidal.
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I haven't seen any video showing the officer who shot approaching the vehicle from the driver side.
At the beginning of the video, the officer is behind and to the right of the victim's car. When Dirty Harry decided to run at the car and try to open the driver's side door (that's not the protocol of any law enforcement), the shooter went along the right side of the vehicle and then crossed across the front of it.
The guy is a moron. If you had any question, there is video from a couple months back of the same moron approaching the car of someone they intended to arrest, using a metal point break tool to break the rear driver's side window, reaching into the car through that window, at which point the actual bad guy hit the gas and dragged that guy 30 yards, actually putting him into the hospital.
Trump says he's lucky to be alive - that's actually true, not from this incident, but because this guy has been trying to Darwin himself for decades.
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"Likely" goes a long, long way here.
This is the same officer, dragged this past June.
Keep going, you're doing fine work.
https://x.com/i/status/2009323304574964111
You know when you get a string of Christmas lights and one bulb is out? That's this agent. The dead bulb.
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Jesus fucking Christ, a few stitches? Fuck off. Try not standing in front of vehicles.
LOL
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"KAGAN, J., delivered the opinion for a unanimous Court. "
https://t.co/ok4yI9um85
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Breaking news: Renee Good allegedly had dropped her three children off at school and was on her way home when she accidentally encountered the ICE agents. More coming.
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And now her kids are orphans because apparently her husband is dead.
Minnesota, come for the sense of community; stay forever for the fascism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2026/01/09/ice-shooting-victim-minneapolis/
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When I'm on my way home I try to block traffic for several minutes as a matter of practice. My passenger gets out of the vehicle to film in case someone doesn't believe me.
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When I'm on my way home I try to block traffic for several minutes as a matter of practice. My passenger gets out of the vehicle to film in case someone doesn't believe me.
You crashing into a light pole because of your Alzheimer's and cataracts doesn't count.
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This agent was an ass clown. Period.
You know that buddy you had, who got into bar fights and says "Gee I don't know, trouble always seems to find me". Pro-tip - he is the trouble, that's why you don't hang out with him anymore.
99.9999999% of law enforcement officers replace the two antagonists in this incident, the woman is still alive. Sometimes, there are people who are just not good at their job. For example, Joe Biden. I'll throw Joe Biden under the bus repeatedly. But the loser Trumpers can see video of the dumbest ICE agent in history, won't throw him under the bus because he's "on their side".
There would be one way to get Mn to start defending Tempo. Put Tempo in at Point Guard for the Illini.
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And now her kids are orphans because apparently her husband is dead.
Minnesota, come for the sense of community; stay forever for the fascism.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2026/01/09/ice-shooting-victim-minneapolis/
It sounds like her second husband is decreased. Current wife and first husband are still alive.
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She was just on her way home.
https://x.com/i/status/2009686008577618408
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This agent was an ass clown. Period.
You know that buddy you had, who got into bar fights and says "Gee I don't know, trouble always seems to find me". Pro-tip - he is the trouble, that's why you don't hang out with him anymore.
99.9999999% of law enforcement officers replace the two antagonists in this incident, the woman is still alive. Sometimes, there are people who are just not good at their job. For example, Joe Biden. I'll throw Joe Biden under the bus repeatedly. But the loser Trumpers can see video of the dumbest ICE agent in history, won't throw him under the bus because he's "on their side".
There would be one way to get Mn to start defending Tempo. Put Tempo in at Point Guard for the Illini.
Can Tempo make a one-and-one?
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She was just on her way home.
https://x.com/i/status/2009686008577618408
ICE agent is an assclown. They don't need to detain this woman. Has video of her, her car, her plates. Shoo her off. Done.
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More fuel for the FAFO crowd. Nevertheless, law enforcement are supposed to be able to "walk away" from such probocations. Wife sure sounds like an idiot. Probably got her wife killed.
Not good all around.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/15758924/ice-agent-shot-renee-good-tense-standoff/
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This is spot on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_ytO7_PfIg
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Did this assclown, who was out making content for his web page walking around with his Cellphone filming while on the job, just post the video on his Instagram or something? How was this video not tightly controlled?
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Darwin wins again.
At some point I am thinking Darwin gets this ICE guy since he appears stupid enough to continually put himself in harms way in violation of ICE's own "rules of engagement."
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Did this assclown, who was out making content for his web page walking around with his Cellphone filming while on the job, just post the video on his Instagram or something? How was this video not tightly controlled?
You bitch when they aren't filming and now you bitch when they do? C'mon man.
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The guard must have gotten the employee ICE instruction template drafted for employers by ThePAThey....
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/mcdonalds-security-guard-pushes-back-1609045
McDonald's security guard pushes back masked ICE agents trying to enter kitchen
The guard tells the agents he's in charge and refuses to let the two past, according to the video trending on Reddit
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Maybe Jesse will run again...
https://www.themirror.com/news/politics/jesse-ventura-compares-trumps-america-1608755
Jesse Ventura compares Trump's America to '1930s Germany' in angry message
Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura had harsh criticism for President Trump, calling on citizen's to "wake up" and comparing ICE in city streets to that of a "Third World country."
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You bitch when they aren't filming and now you bitch when they do? C'mon man.
I'm down with bodycams. Using his personal cellphone, and taking up one of his hands during what they claim is a dangerous situation?
Come on.
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I'm down with bodycams. Using his personal cellphone, and taking up one of his hands during what they claim is a dangerous situation?
Come on.
Maybe they haven't given him a body cam? Thought they all did not have them. That was an issue in the Illinois litigation, I believe.
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Maybe they haven't given him a body cam? Thought they all did not have them. That was an issue in the Illinois litigation, I believe.
They aren't wearing body cams. Pretty sad given that they are armed officers.
If agents are gonna run around with cellphones, seems pretty obvious to go with body cams instead. Very much against what I would expect for a cop-ish to be rolling around with a phone in their hand, especially a personal one.
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I haven't seen any video showing the officer who shot approaching the vehicle from the driver side.
During most of that time the woman wasn't moving or cooperating.
In the image, the wheels are headed pretty much straight toward him and he is pulling his gun.
Up to this point the woman had been following ICE, blocking traffic, obstructing ICE and non-cooperative.
The officer doesn't get to use hindsight, frame by frame analysis or read what the Twitter, Bluesky or the next day WaPo have to say.
Let's unpack this Mn, since you posted the video from the officer.
"Non-cooperative". The driver says directly to the officer "That's fine dude, I'm not mad at you". "That's ok, we don't change our plates every day, they'll be the same when you come talk to us later". That certainly has to put the fear into the officer that they are trying to kill him, that they are expecting him and willing to talk to him in the future.
"the wheels are headed pretty much straight toward him" - the video clearly shows her turning the steering wheel to the right, prior to the car moving forwards.
Also in the video is seen several bystanders behind the car, on the sidewalk.
This guy sucks at his job. Full stop.
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Let's unpack this Mn, since you posted the video from the officer.
"Non-cooperative". The driver says directly to the officer "That's fine dude, I'm not mad at you". "That's ok, we don't change our plates every day, they'll be the same when you come talk to us later". That certainly has to put the fear into the officer that they are trying to kill him, that they are expecting him and willing to talk to him in the future.
"the wheels are headed pretty much straight toward him" - the video clearly shows her turning the steering wheel to the right, prior to the car moving forwards.
Also in the video is seen several bystanders behind the car, on the sidewalk.
This guy sucks at his job. Full stop.
Imagine being a male and saying
"Full stop"
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Imagine being a male and saying
"Full stop"
Have to say, that's pretty damn funny, Jasn.
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Maybe if Tempo and the lady friend went to Italy, they could help with the construction of the Olympic facilities? Sounds like the hockey rink still has a ways to go.
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Imagine being a male and saying
"Full stop"
Imagine not being someone who has to grudgingly visit relatives in Lincoln, Illinois, but actually LIVING in Lincoln Illinois
What a place. Had to go fetch some stuff at Aldi's. Two dudes in the front of the line were super jacked up, you see, their old buddy Aaron Fricke, who they played ball with in 2006, was making a triumphant return to Lincoln from Warrenburg, to coach the Football team. Glory Days, Glory Days.
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She was just on her way home.
https://x.com/i/status/2009686008577618408
Totally deserved to be shot and killed…
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15449879/federal-agents-guns-swarm-jonathan-ross-home-hiding-minneapolis.html
Oh my.....
'She hit him,' said Ed Ross, 80. 'He also had an officer whose arm was in the car. He will not be charged with anything.
'You would never find a nicer, kinder person,' the father added of his son. 'He's a committed, conservative Christian, a tremendous father, a tremendous husband. I couldn't be more proud of him.'
The elderly father from North Pekin, Illinois,
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15449879/federal-agents-guns-swarm-jonathan-ross-home-hiding-minneapolis.html
Oh my.....
you just can't trust them Chinks
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This agent was an ass clown. Period.
You know that buddy you had, who got into bar fights and says "Gee I don't know, trouble always seems to find me". Pro-tip - he is the trouble, that's why you don't hang out with him anymore.
99.9999999% of law enforcement officers replace the two antagonists in this incident, the woman is still alive. Sometimes, there are people who are just not good at their job. For example, Joe Biden. I'll throw Joe Biden under the bus repeatedly. But the loser Trumpers can see video of the dumbest ICE agent in history, won't throw him under the bus because he's "on their side".
There would be one way to get Mn to start defending Tempo. Put Tempo in at Point Guard for the Illini.
I’ll give you that the agent was an ass clown if you’ll give me that the woman was an ass clown. Both can be true.
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Imagine being a male and saying
"Full stop"
Jasn!!!
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Since Tempo only accept news from people talking into their phones on TikTok, is this true of our dear hero? Or doesn’t count cuz white male?
https://x.com/langmanvince/status/2009720289396187258?s=46
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I’ll give you that the agent was an ass clown if you’ll give me that the woman was an ass clown. Both can be true.
Execution seems like an appropriate sentence for being an assclown.
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I’ll give you that the agent was an ass clown if you’ll give me that the woman was an ass clown. Both can be true.
First rule of being an ass clown. Have a gun.
Woman - not an ass clown.
QED
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Nothing can be said about the shooter that hasn't already been said about the Oregon QB
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I’ll give you that the agent was an ass clown if you’ll give me that the woman was an ass clown. Both can be true.
This is looking like the correct answer
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I’d say the assclown that executed the other assclown was the far greater assclown.
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I’d say the assclown that executed the other assclown was the far greater assclown.
This can be true too
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I’d say the assclown that executed the other assclown was the far greater assclown.
I’d say the one that’s dead for being an ass clown is the far greater ass clown.
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Imagine not being someone who has to grudgingly visit relatives in Lincoln, Illinois, but actually LIVING in Lincoln Illinois
What a place. Had to go fetch some stuff at Aldi's. Two dudes in the front of the line were super jacked up, you see, their old buddy Aaron Fricke, who they played ball with in 2006, was making a triumphant return to Lincoln from Warrenburg, to coach the Football team. Glory Days, Glory Days.
Why didn't you let me know you were in town
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Totally deserved to be shot and killed…
Moving goalposts again.
No she didn't. But carry on.
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If you have a friend who tells you to break the law several times in a matter of minutes, even though you have a 6 year old son to care for, and the breaking the law may be dangerous but you're told it's for the greater good, and that person doesn't break the law, or have a kid, videos the breaking the law in hopes of moving up the social justice ladder with her Tik-Tok video and then tells you to hit the gas when there's a man in front of the vehicle .......
stay away from that person. That person is not a friend.
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If you have a friend who tells you to break the law several times in a matter of minutes, even though you have a 6 year old son to care for, and the breaking the law may be dangerous but you're told it's for the greater good, and that person doesn't break the law, or have a kid, videos the breaking the law in hopes of moving up the social justice ladder with her Tik-Tok video and then tells you to hit the gas when there's a man in front of the vehicle .......
stay away from that person. That person is not a friend.
It may be your wife though.
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It may be your wife though.
My wife is my friend.
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My wife is my friend.
Does she want to go to Italy with Tempo?
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Does she want to go to Italy with Tempo?
I can ask 😂😂😂😂
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I can ask 😂😂😂😂
She’ll be flattered!
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We may find out if the judge uses the local fishwraps, the failing NYT, and/or watched the edited CBS video of the woman driving away but leaving her wife behind, who was trying to enter the vehicle.
They weren't 'observing', they were obstructing. The lawyer did get the 'obs' part but missed a bit on the other letters.
From the suit asking for a temporary restraining order .......
" Two days after that, an ICE agent shot and killed observer Renee Good while she was driving away from agents who were attempting to force their way into her vehicle. "
"Given the urgency of the situation, Plaintiffs respectfully request that the Court notonly grant Plaintiffs permission to move for reconsideration, but also convert this letter into the motion. See Pub. Rec. Media, LLC v. U.S. Dep’t of Just., Case No. 12-1225, 2013 WL 2480678,at *1 (D. Minn. June 7, 2013). Moreover, because the parties have already fully briefed Plaintiffs’ entitlement to emergency relief, Plaintiffs respectfully request that a temporaryrestraining order be entered immediately. (See ECF 1, 1-1 to 1-15, 18, 38, 46, 50.) As theCourt noted previously, TROs may be entered on an ex parte basis, and the government herehas had ample time and process to respond.
Sincerely yours,Virginia R. McCalmont
The footnotes ......
1 Nicole Sganga & Camilo Montoya-Galvez, 2,000 Federal Agents Deploying to Minneapolis inImmigration Crackdown, Fraud Probe, CBS News (Jan. 5, 2026 at 10:24 p.m.), available athttps://www.cbsnews.com/news/minneapolis-federal-agents-crackdown/.
2 Devon Lum, Robin Stein & Ainara Tiefenthäler, Videos Contradict Trump AdministrationAccount of ICE Shooting in Minneapolis, The New York Times (Jan. 8, 2026), available athttps://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html.
3 Nicholas Bogel-Burroughs, Mitch Smith & Jacey Fortin, More Agents Head to Minnesota asU.S. Takes Over Shooting Investigation, The New York Times (Jan. 8, 2026 at 8:16 p.m.), available athttps://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/08/us/minnesota-ice-shooting-news.html.
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I’d say the one that’s dead for being an ass clown is the far greater ass clown.
Of course you would. Entirely predictable.
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Mn will hate this. Another white woman on
TikTok. She gives JD Vance (a law school graduate) a lesson in law.
https://x.com/charise_lee/status/2009673751332565356?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Mn prefers Somali women on TikTok!
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I’d say the one that’s dead for being an ass clown is the far greater ass clown.
Reasonable people can agree with this. Unreasonable people won't.
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Of course you would. Entirely predictable.
Even “No punishment is too harsh PAMan” agrees with me.
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Reasonable people can agree with this. Unreasonable people won't.
A lot of fascists agree with it, I’m certain.
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Mn will hate this. Another white woman on
TikTok. She gives JD Vance (a law school graduate) a lesson in law.
https://x.com/charise_lee/status/2009673751332565356?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I don't think she does. But carry on.
I feel sorry for the dog.
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A failing NYT piece in the fishwrap reads "moving the car toward the agent".
How did "toward the agent" get past the editor ?
An AP article in the fishwrap reads "as the vehicle moves toward him".
Yoohoo, where's the editor ?
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I don't think she does.
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Expound, please.
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A failing NYT piece in the fishwrap reads "moving the car toward the agent".
How did "toward the agent" get past the editor ?
An AP article in the fishwrap reads "as the vehicle moves toward him".
Yoohoo, where's the editor ?
Wut the fuck is this gibberish.
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Wut the fuck is this gibberish.
Lolololololololol.
Wut ?
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Expound, please.
Ray covered it already.
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https://x.com/amoneyresists/status/2009940607532212707?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Ray covered it already.
I need you to do it.
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I need you to do it.
You didn't receive any information about it in your texts from last night where you 'learned' things ?
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You didn't receive any information about it in your texts from last night where you 'learned' things ?
Explain your position.
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Explain your position.
You can look for it. Start with SCOTUS decisions and go from there instead of looking for Tik Tok videos.
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You can look for it. Start with SCOTUS decisions and go from there instead of looking for Tik Tok videos.
I damn sure won’t get it from you.
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As I’ve said, you are the Chief Obfuscator on the forum.
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This lying bag of shit says he won MN all three times. He lost it all three times.
https://x.com/magalietracker/status/2009828130853118149?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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If you have a friend who tells you to break the law several times in a matter of minutes, even though you have a 6 year old son to care for, and the breaking the law may be dangerous but you're told it's for the greater good, and that person doesn't break the law, or have a kid, videos the breaking the law in hopes of moving up the social justice ladder with her Tik-Tok video and then tells you to hit the gas when there's a man in front of the vehicle .......
stay away from that person. That person is not a friend.
The vehicle was moving, what, 1 mph?
Also, all the videos show she had already turned her steering wheel, perhaps to avoid hitting the agents before the vehicle moved forward.
The vehicle did not accelerate until it was fully turned and after she had been shot. She was likely dead at that point.
AI overview
Rebecca Good yelled "Drive, baby, drive!" to her wife, Renee Nicole Good, in an attempt to get her to flee the scene during a tense confrontation with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in Minneapolis.
The sequence of events leading to the command was:
Rebecca and Renee Good were at a location where ICE was conducting an enforcement operation, reportedly to support their neighbors.
An ICE agent, Jonathan Ross, approached their vehicle while filming with his phone. Rebecca was outside the car, arguing with the agent, while Renee was in the driver's seat.
The situation escalated when another ICE agent ordered Renee to get out of the SUV.
At this point, as Renee began to reverse and then move the car forward, away from the agents, Rebecca shouted at her to "drive".
The agent then fired three shots into the car, fatally striking Renee.
The command to "drive" was an instruction to escape the confrontation with federal agents. The incident is the subject of intense debate, with the agent claiming self-defense and local officials and witnesses disputing that claim, stating Renee was trying to drive away and not strike the officer. Rebecca Good later expressed remorse, with a bystander video showing her saying "it's my fault" following the shooting.
Me: Normal people often blame themselves for bad incidents, thinking of only I had done something different, etc.
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As I’ve said, you are the Chief Obfuscator on the forum.
Ray posted his AI information on federal agents and federal operations.
You may have been looking at Tik Tok videos and missed it.,
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The vehicle was moving, what, 1 mph?
Also, all the videos show she had already turned her steering wheel, perhaps to avoid hitting the agents before the vehicle moved forward.
The vehicle did not accelerate until it was fully turned and after she had been shot. She was likely dead at that point.
AI overview
Rebecca Good yelled "Drive, baby, drive!" to her wife, Renee Nicole Good, in an attempt to get her to flee the scene during a tense confrontation with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in Minneapolis.
The sequence of events leading to the command was:
Rebecca and Renee Good were at a location where ICE was conducting an enforcement operation, reportedly to support their neighbors.
An ICE agent, Jonathan Ross, approached their vehicle while filming with his phone. Rebecca was outside the car, arguing with the agent, while Renee was in the driver's seat.
The situation escalated when another ICE agent ordered Renee to get out of the SUV.
At this point, as Renee began to reverse and then move the car forward, away from the agents, Rebecca shouted at her to "drive".
The agent then fired three shots into the car, fatally striking Renee.
The command to "drive" was an instruction to escape the confrontation with federal agents. The incident is the subject of intense debate, with the agent claiming self-defense and local officials and witnesses disputing that claim, stating Renee was trying to drive away and not strike the officer. Rebecca Good later expressed remorse, with a bystander video showing her saying "it's my fault" following the shooting.
Me: Normal people often blame themselves for bad incidents, thinking of only I had done something different, etc.
Wow AI obviously hasn’t seen the video.
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Wow AI obviously hasn’t seen the video.
We all tend to see things through our own filters.
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We all tend to see things through our own filters.
I already said this today, Nichi!
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The vehicle was moving, what, 1 mph?
Also, all the videos show she had already turned her steering wheel, perhaps to avoid hitting the agents before the vehicle moved forward.
The vehicle did not accelerate until it was fully turned and after she had been shot. She was likely dead at that point.
AI overview
Rebecca Good yelled "Drive, baby, drive!" to her wife, Renee Nicole Good, in an attempt to get her to flee the scene during a tense confrontation with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agents in Minneapolis.
The sequence of events leading to the command was:
Rebecca and Renee Good were at a location where ICE was conducting an enforcement operation, reportedly to support their neighbors.
An ICE agent, Jonathan Ross, approached their vehicle while filming with his phone. Rebecca was outside the car, arguing with the agent, while Renee was in the driver's seat.
The situation escalated when another ICE agent ordered Renee to get out of the SUV.
At this point, as Renee began to reverse and then move the car forward, away from the agents, Rebecca shouted at her to "drive".
The agent then fired three shots into the car, fatally striking Renee.
The command to "drive" was an instruction to escape the confrontation with federal agents. The incident is the subject of intense debate, with the agent claiming self-defense and local officials and witnesses disputing that claim, stating Renee was trying to drive away and not strike the officer. Rebecca Good later expressed remorse, with a bystander video showing her saying "it's my fault" following the shooting.
Me: Normal people often blame themselves for bad incidents, thinking of only I had done something different, etc.
How many laws would you want a friend to break before realizing that maybe there might be something better to do ?
Normal people don't start with breaking laws. They're not your friend if they want you to break laws.
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AI Mode
As of January 2026, there are no verified official records, police reports, or court documents to support the claim that Renée Nicole Good’s partner, Rebecca (Becca) Good, abused children.
The allegations surfaced on social media platforms following the death of Renée Good in a Minneapolis shooting involving ICE agents on January 7, 2026. Fact-checkers and news outlets have identified these claims as unsubstantiated rumors.
Key Facts Regarding the Allegations:
*Source of the Rumor: The claims primarily originated from viral posts on X (formerly Twitter), specifically from an account that provided no proof or official references.
*Child Abuse Claims: Social media posts alleged that Rebecca was arrested for using cigarettes to burn children, but extensive searches of news and public records have found no evidence of such an arrest or charge.
*Custody Status: While social media posts claimed Renée lost custody of her two older children due to abuse, public records indicate these children lived with their biological father in another state under a pre-existing custody arrangement that preceded her relationship with Rebecca.
*Living Situation: At the time of her death, Renée had primary custody of her youngest son (age 6) and lived with him and Rebecca in Minneapolis. Neighbors described them as a "beautiful family" who were frequently seen playing outside together.
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How many laws would you want a friend to break before realizing that maybe there might be something better to do ?
Normal people don't start with breaking laws. They're not your friend if they want you to break laws.
This is both true and completely irrelevant to my comment and the discussion in general.
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This is both true and completely irrelevant to my comment and the discussion in general.
Not really. It’s showing that maybe there’s a history and people you try to paint as “not breaking the law” might be doing exactly that. Much more than you realize. I mean that’s how y'all are painting and portraying ICE, right?!
Oh here, let me post my 🪿
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AI Mode
As of January 2026, there are no verified official records, police reports, or court documents to support the claim that Renée Nicole Good’s partner, Rebecca (Becca) Good, abused children.
The allegations surfaced on social media platforms following the death of Renée Good in a Minneapolis shooting involving ICE agents on January 7, 2026. Fact-checkers and news outlets have identified these claims as unsubstantiated rumors.
Key Facts Regarding the Allegations:
*Source of the Rumor: The claims primarily originated from viral posts on X (formerly Twitter), specifically from an account that provided no proof or official references.
*Child Abuse Claims: Social media posts alleged that Rebecca was arrested for using cigarettes to burn children, but extensive searches of news and public records have found no evidence of such an arrest or charge.
*Custody Status: While social media posts claimed Renée lost custody of her two older children due to abuse, public records indicate these children lived with their biological father in another state under a pre-existing custody arrangement that preceded her relationship with Rebecca.
*Living Situation: At the time of her death, Renée had primary custody of her youngest son (age 6) and lived with him and Rebecca in Minneapolis. Neighbors described them as a "beautiful family" who were frequently seen playing outside together.
Was the husband represented by Fathers' Rights attorney, Jeffrey M. Leving?
There's hope for Tempo to get the kid!
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Renee Good was fatally shot by an ICE agent in January 2026 in Minneapolis. Disputed reports exist regarding whether she and her wife, Becca Good, were "stalking and impeding" ICE activities or acting as legal observers at the time, but neither were charged with crimes in connection with the incident.
Overview of the Incident
*Renee Good was a 37-year-old mother and U.S. citizen. She was part of a local group known as "ICE Watch" which trains participants to document and sometimes disrupt ICE activity.
*On the morning of the shooting, Renee and Becca Good encountered ICE agents conducting an operation. They stopped their vehicle in the street, and Becca exited to record the agents with her phone.
*The situation escalated when federal agents ordered Renee to exit the car. Video footage and witness accounts of what happened next are disputed, with some suggesting she was trying to drive away and others claiming she "weaponized her vehicle" to try to run over an agent. An agent, identified in court documents as Jonathan Ross, then fired shots into the vehicle, killing Renee.
Allegations of Criminal Activity
*Renee Good: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) alleged that Renee's actions were an "act of domestic terrorism" and that she tried to kill federal officers. However, local officials, including the Minneapolis Mayor and Minnesota Attorney General, rejected this characterization and described her as a "compassionate neighbor" acting as a legal observer. No criminal charges were filed against Renee because she was killed in the incident.
*Becca Good: Becca was at the scene and a witness to the shooting, later expressing guilt for asking her wife to come down to the scene. Authorities have not indicated that she faces any charges related to the incident.
The incident and the differing narratives from federal and local authorities have sparked a federal and local investigation.
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This is both true and completely irrelevant to my comment and the discussion in general.
Maybe this will help. If you have friends like this, find other friends,
AI
Felony murder is a legal doctrine (varying by jurisdiction) where someone can be charged with murder if a death occurs during the commission of certain felonies, even without direct intent to kill. In Minnesota (where the incident occurred), the statute includes scenarios like fleeing law enforcement or assaulting officers as qualifying felonies, and it can apply to accomplices/aiders. Federally, similar rules exist under statutes like 18 U.S.C. § 1111 for killings during federal crimes.
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Ths
Maybe this will help. If you have friends like this, find other friends,
AI
Felony murder is a legal doctrine (varying by jurisdiction) where someone can be charged with murder if a death occurs during the commission of certain felonies, even without direct intent to kill. In Minnesota (where the incident occurred), the statute includes scenarios like fleeing law enforcement or assaulting officers as qualifying felonies, and it can apply to accomplices/aiders. Federally, similar rules exist under statutes like 18 U.S.C. § 1111 for killings during federal crimes.
That would be bizarre. Charge Becca Good with felony murder in the death of her wife, Renee Good?
How about accessory to attempted murder of an ICE agent?
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Ths
That would be bizarre. Charge Becca Good with felony murder in the death of her wife, Renee Good?
If a conviction can be obtained it might send a message to some. It won't send a message to all.
Don't be a Becca Good.
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How about Becca Good files a wrongful death lawsuit against homeland security, Ice Barbie, and the agent?
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https://x.com/gragedustin/status/2010037103665787019?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://x.com/gragedustin/status/2010037103665787019?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Getting shot in the face multiple times seems a stiff penalty for annoying ICE agents.
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Getting shot in the face multiple times seems a stiff penalty for annoying ICE agents.
It was tragic. That’s why people say this isn’t a game. Why go looking to do what she did. Bad shit can happen. What was said earlier about dumbass clowns?!
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https://x.com/peachproof23/status/2009642904105709821?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://x.com/peachproof23/status/2009642904105709821?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I called that guy scrotum face 16 hours ago. And PAMan says there’s no value in the Twotter.
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I called that guy scrotum face 16 hours ago. And PAMan says there’s no value in the Twotter.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5wLJzbQ/IMG-4915.png) (https://postimg.cc/3kDGZ6Dj)
Go get em Tiger!
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How about Becca Good files a wrongful death lawsuit against homeland security, Ice Barbie, and the agent?
Has she turned her phone over yet ?
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Has she turned her phone over yet ?
hOW thE pHuCK wOUld I kNoW?
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Getting shot in the face multiple times seems a stiff penalty for annoying ICE agents.
Don't annoy ice agents.
Be somewhere else. Do something legal instead.
Get better friends.
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I called that guy scrotum face 16 hours ago. And PAMan says there’s no value in the Twotter.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Z5wLJzbQ/IMG-4915.png) (https://postimg.cc/3kDGZ6Dj)
Social justice warrior 101.
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Social justice warrior 101.
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That’s awesome! Where are the time stamps? Don’t tell me those were all coincidental!
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That’s awesome! Where are the time stamps? Don’t tell me those were all coincidental!
They're different tough guy replies to different posters. Some pretty impressive stuff.
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Yeah conservatives never do that online.
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I literally had multiple conservatives threaten me a while back. I don’t recall the issue but I don’t even think it was a huge one.
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If it comes back to me, I’ll detail what happened.
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Don’t kid yourself, some of these guys have been training for this their whole lives.
(https://i.postimg.cc/VkDyb0vx/IMG-4889.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/RW6pkFcd)
One of your homies may have gotten this one wrong.
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So Trisha is the final word?
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You’d bet your wife and kids that no ice agents have Nazi tattoos?
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You’d bet your wife and kids that no ice agents have Nazi tattoos?
Lol
You're the one who posted the guy labeling the guy in the image as ICE.
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I literally had multiple conservatives threaten me a while back. I don’t recall the issue but I don’t even think it was a huge one.
Sounds believable. I don’t know when or where but it happened! Ok Jessie Smollet…
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Body cam footage.
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2009723574513234337?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Sounds believable. I don’t know when or where but it happened! Ok Jessie Smollet…
Yeah, I’m lying to you.
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That’s why I changed my location to California. Apparently putting your picture and name on twitter is “endangering” yourself. It’s Jobu x20
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https://x.com/sadie_nc/status/2009893399248417204?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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https://x.com/tarasetmayer/status/2009779558417912100?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Here are some of the nicer neighbors the Governor, the Mayor, the Senators and Dem Reps are working damn hard to protect in hopes of the fraud during their administrations being minimized.
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Body cam footage.
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2009723574513234337?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Cell phone, not body cam, but yes. She can be seen turning the steering wheel.
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https://x.com/mollyploofkins/status/2009958610672161060?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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https://x.com/texasrepublic71/status/2009935542440349788?s=46
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https://x.com/texasrepublic71/status/2009935542440349788?s=46
I think we can close the case now…
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She is clearly turning the steering wheel to make a right turn.
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She was on her way home after dropping her kid off at school.
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“Law enforcement is held to the highest standard when it comes to deadly force (so in other words not the lowest).”
https://x.com/thetnholler/status/2010223670569181236?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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“Law enforcement is held to the highest standard when it comes to deadly force (so in other words not the lowest).”
https://x.com/thetnholler/status/2010223670569181236?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
If you disagree with this Sheriff, you’re just a boot licking shill.
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She was looking right at him. Her friend yelled 'drive, baby, drive when he was in front of the vehicle. She hit the gas.
He wasn't in the passenger seat having a friendly conversation about what she was thinking or if she was going to try to hit him or not.
He wasn't in the passenger seat to remind her that in fleeing she needed to drive carefully, respect the speed limit, come to a full stop for a pedestrian in a cross walk, to remind her not to hit any protestors, vehicles in or along the road, or law enforcement officials or their vehicles in her escape.
He was in front of the vehicle, someone yelled 'drive, baby, drive' and she floored it.
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She was looking right at him. Her friend yelled 'drive, baby, drive when he was in front of the vehicle. She hit the gas.
He wasn't in the passenger seat having a friendly conversation about what she was thinking or if she was going to try to hit him or not.
He wasn't in the passenger seat to remind her that in fleeing she needed to drive carefully, respect the speed limit, come to a full stop for a pedestrian in a cross walk, to remind her not to hit any protestors, vehicles in or along the road, or law enforcement officials or their vehicles in her escape.
He was in front of the vehicle, someone yelled 'drive, baby, drive' and she floored it.
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She was turning the steering wheel to make a right turn.
The first shot is possibly disputable. He was clearly not in front of the vehicle when the 2nd and 3rd shots were fired.
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She was turning the steering wheel to make a right turn.
She told you that ?
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https://x.com/sadie_nc/status/2009893399248417204?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Delete your twitter account. Save yourself. It's just shitposting AI edgelords and a smattering of real people "doing their research" by ... reading bullshit from shitposting edgelords.
I will say I've turned mine back on because well, Broncos and Bears.
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She told you that ?
You are the one that just posted that screen shot. Her right hand is at 11 o'clock.
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You are the one that just posted that screen shot. Her right hand is at 11 o'clock.
Keep in mind, you’re debating Three Card MNte.
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She told you that ?
I’ve never seen anyone put their right hand at 12:00 to go straight.
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https://x.com/magacult2/status/2010488517210911092?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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When I had my Honda Pilot and backed up with the steering wheel turned to the left, I had to turn the wheel to the right if I wanted to go straight when I moved forward.
Maybe even having my hand at the 12 o'clock position.
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When I had my Honda Pilot and backed up with the steering wheel turned to the left, I had to turn the wheel to the right if I wanted to go straight when I moved forward.
Maybe even having my hand at the 12 o'clock position.
What kind of car is she driving?
You drove a Honda? Make America Great Again!
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A couple of weeks ago.
"A grand jury in Colorado indicted two suspected leaders of the Venezuelan gang Tren De Aragua on Thursday in connection with a series of crimes in the state."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/colorado-grand-jury-indicts-suspected-leaders-of-tren-de-aragua-gang/ar-AA1T8Ey6
A Colorado judge later ordered the apartment complex to temporarily close due to an "immediate threat to public safety," with city officials assisting about 85 families in finding a new place to live where they would not be revictimized.
Last year, the Aurora Police Department released a doorbell video showing a group of nine suspected Tren de Aragua members terrorizing an apartment tenant from Venezuela, in an incident officials referred to as "very reminiscent" of the 2024 takeover at a nearby building in the city.
Video shows the group pointing guns and repeatedly knocking on an apartment door in a building near 6th Avenue and Potomac Street in Aurora, Chamberlain said during a news conference.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/aurora-terrorized-venezuelan-gang-dictator-maduro-let-tren-de-aragua-seize-power?msockid=01c2cbfe4bd96d3114a6dfee4af26c29
From August.
DENVER — What was described as “the biggest investigation” of the Venezuelan street gang Tren de Aragua in the country unfolded in Colorado over the past 10 months, federal officials announced on Monday, netting 30 indictments of people allegedly involved in drug and weapons trafficking and a “barbaric” murder-for-hire plot.
https://rockymountainvoice.com/2025/08/18/colorados-largest-tda-gang-bust-exposes-murder-for-hire-and-international-drug-pipeline/
The 'we're your neighbors' defense probably won't work.
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What kind of car is she driving?
You drove a Honda? Make America Great Again!
Multiple stories have indicated that she was driving a Honda Pilot. There are quite a few of them on the roads if you're ever out driving around.
I think mine was made in Ohio.
Does your steering wheel work the same as mine ?
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My steering wheel works like every other steering wheel I’ve ever used.
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Multiple stories have indicated that she was driving a Honda Pilot. There are quite a few of them on the roads if you're ever out driving around.
I think mine was made in Ohio.
Does your steering wheel work the same as mine ?
No wonder the car companies are offshoring manufacturing - the cars made in Ohio don't work like normal cars!
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Appears it was made in Alabama. But the profits were shipped to Japan!
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ICE agent was looking for a reason to shoot.
https://x.com/advicefromlouis/status/2010568828829249868?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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ICE agent was looking for a reason to shoot.
https://x.com/advicefromlouis/status/2010568828829249868?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Sure he was.
He joined up 10 years ago just waiting for the right opportunity. When he was dragged 100 yards, or whatever, last summer he probably thought about shooting the whole time but decided to wait for a better opportunity.
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My steering wheel works like every other steering wheel I’ve ever used.
You're telling me that if your front tires are turned left that you have to turn the steering wheel to the right to go straight ?
A person's way of thinking is similar. If you've gone left, correct your path to go right and you can then go straight.
The farther left you've gone would require a greater correction to go straight.
Don't go too far left.
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Here are some of the nicer neighbors the Governor, the Mayor, the Senators and Dem Reps are working damn hard to protect in hopes of the fraud during their administrations being minimized.
(https://i.ibb.co/3mgkS1m0/Screenshot-20260110-195107-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/ch4x2JhN)
(https://i.ibb.co/v6T92k8h/Screenshot-20260110-195148-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/B5Qk8BRG)
Me, on Saturday.
My Senator on Sunday.
https://x.com/i/status/2010397164841951739
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Utah DPS caught dissing some neighbors of Utah citizens in viral video.
“In the last couple of years, we’ve really started to see a footprint in Utah, specifically, of the TDA, Tren de Aragua gang,” said Utah Department of Public Safety Chief of Investigations Tanner Jensen. “Probably around February of 2024, we started receiving some reporting of some of that gang activity here in Utah, and we’ve been trying to track that ever since.”
https://ksltv.com/crime-public-safety/venezuelan-gang-grows-in-utah/865791/
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“Law enforcement is held to the highest standard when it comes to deadly force (so in other words not the lowest).”
https://x.com/thetnholler/status/2010223670569181236?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Mn, you disagree with this sheriff?
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Mn, you disagree with this sheriff?
Do you disagree with the one in the CPD? I know you’re gonna ask for a link because it won’t show up on your progressive feed. Hell, he’s even a liberal officer in Chicago and think y'all are nuts defending the situation…
https://x.com/unhealthytruth/status/2010725788291854672?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Mn, you disagree with this sheriff?
There are SCOTUS decisions regarding the use of deadly force.
Minnesota has statutes regarding the use of deadly force.
Those probably override what a sheriff has to say in a 2 1/2 minute video.
You do know he's running for Governor, correct ?
Correct ?
From the Wiki ....
"Genesee County is a Democratic stronghold. It has only voted for a Republican candidate five times since 1932."
Some people may say he's pandering but I wouldn't say that. ;D
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Appears it was made in Alabama. But the profits were shipped to Japan!
I was thinking Marysville, Ohio.
When I look at the goggle, the goggle agrees.
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ICE agent was looking for a reason to shoot.
https://x.com/advicefromlouis/status/2010568828829249868?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
https://x.com/sues86453/status/2010457481315500193?s=46
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ICE agent was looking for a reason to shoot.
https://x.com/advicefromlouis/status/2010568828829249868?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Louis has the link to his youtube that he would like you to subscribe to.
Just in case you didn't notice the .....
Subscribe to my YouTube - Longer HQ videos YT: AdviceFromLouis
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Do you disagree with the one in the CPD? I know you’re gonna ask for a link because it won’t show up on your progressive feed. Hell, he’s even a liberal officer in Chicago and think y'all are nuts defending the situation…
https://x.com/unhealthytruth/status/2010725788291854672?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Dunno, clicked your link and it says "cannot retrieve link at this time." I know I agree with the one I posted.
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Louis has the link to his youtube that he would like you to subscribe to.
Just in case you didn't notice the .....
Subscribe to my YouTube - Longer HQ videos YT: AdviceFromLouis
And?
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https://x.com/sues86453/status/2010457481315500193?s=46
So.shut up and get in the kitchen?
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So.shut up and get in the kitchen?
I tried really hard to see this through your lens, but I’m completely back to FAFO.
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Sure he was.
He joined up 10 years ago just waiting for the right opportunity. When he was dragged 100 yards, or whatever, last summer he probably thought about shooting the whole time but decided to wait for a better opportunity.
He got his own self dragged. How has this ICE agent not darwin'd himself already, I have no idea.
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I tried really hard to see this through your lens, but I’m completely back to FAFO.
https://x.com/i/status/2010389073677181159
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ICE arrests 17 year old U.S. citizen working at Target, basically rough him up, drop him off 8 minutes away in the cold (to walk back?).
ICE
https://x.com/furkangozukara/status/2010666047201010014?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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This guy has an honest question for MAGA conservatives
https://x.com/dittiepe/status/2010664417994874968?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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ICE arrests 17 year old U.S. citizen working at Target, basically rough him up, drop him off 8 minutes away in the cold (to walk back?).
ICE
https://x.com/furkangozukara/status/2010666047201010014?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
This sort of thing has happened multiple times.
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I have no doubt. Hundreds or more I’d think.
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Supposedly from a lawyer. Interesting:
There seems to be a lot of Keyboard attorneys.online today. So, as an actual attorney, I'd like to cite actual law. The ICE officer in MN violated both protocol and case law.
1) officers are not allowed to fire into a moving vehicle
2) lethal force is not allowed to prevent someone from fleeing
3) case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense
At best, this officer acted with a reckless disregard for public safety and is guilty of negligent homicide.
Federal agents do not have blanket immunity from state laws or criminal prosecution. They can be prosecuted by state authorities for violating state laws if their actions were unauthorized, unlawful, or unreasonable, even if they were on duty.
The concept governing this is called Supremacy Clause immunity. Federal agents are generally immune from state prosecution only if their actions were:bAuthorized under federal law; and
"Necessary and proper" to fulfill their federal duties.
If a federal agent is charged in state court, they can petition to have their case "removed" to federal court. In federal court, the judge would then determine whether the agent's actions met the "necessary and proper" standard.
If the court finds the agent was acting within the reasonable confines of their duties, the state charges will be dismissed.
If not, the state prosecution can proceed in federal court, applying state substantive law. It is unlikely any judge would find his behavior necessary and reasonable. The mere fact that no other officer present unholstered their weapon and appear shocked he fired towards them reinforces that fact.
Estate of Starks v. Enyart, 5 F.3d 230 (7th Cir. 1993) Seventh Circuit – foundational case facts: Officer stepped in front of a slowly moving vehicle and then shot the driver, claiming fear for his life. Holding (paraphrased) “An officer may not unreasonably create a physically threatening situation and then use deadly force to escape it.”
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Ninth Circuit Facts: Officer jumped in front of a vehicle during a stop and then fired. Holding: An officer cannot provoke a confrontation and then rely on the danger they created to justify deadly force. Key language: The court emphasized that reasonableness includes the officer’s own tactical decisions leading up to the shooting.
Thompson v. Hubbard, 257 F.3d 896 (8th Cir. 2001) Eighth Circuit Key point: The court rejected summary judgment for officers where evidence showed the officer moved into the vehicle’s path, creating the perceived threat.
Abraham v. Raso, 183 F.3d 279 (3d Cir. 1999)
Third Circuit Facts: Off-duty officer shot a fleeing driver. Holding: The court stressed that pre-seizure conduct matters and that officers cannot rely solely on the “split second” framing if their own actions escalated the situation.
Kirby v. Duva, 530 F.3d 475 (6th Cir. 2008)
Holding: Deadly force may be unconstitutional where:
-The officer fired into a moving vehicle
-The officer could have stepped aside
-The threat was self-created
The Sixth Circuit explicitly rejected the idea that a moving car automatically justifies gunfire.
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Holding: An officer may not intentionally place himself in danger and then use deadly force to neutralize the danger he created — including firing into a vehicle. The Ninth Circuit emphasized tactical disengagement as the constitutional expectation.
Training & Policy Alignment (Courts Care About This) Many courts note that modern police training instructs:
-Do not fire into moving vehicles
-Do not use deadly force to stop a fleeing car
-Disengage and contain instead
Courts treat violations of training as evidence of unreasonableness, even if not dispositive.
Copied and pasted.
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“Fucking bitch.”
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Supposedly from a lawyer. Interesting:
There seems to be a lot of Keyboard attorneys.online today. So, as an actual attorney, I'd like to cite actual law. The ICE officer in MN violated both protocol and case law.
1) officers are not allowed to fire into a moving vehicle
2) lethal force is not allowed to prevent someone from fleeing
3) case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense
At best, this officer acted with a reckless disregard for public safety and is guilty of negligent homicide.
Federal agents do not have blanket immunity from state laws or criminal prosecution. They can be prosecuted by state authorities for violating state laws if their actions were unauthorized, unlawful, or unreasonable, even if they were on duty.
There are 2 kinds of people in the US. People who want to know what the law is, and people who think they know what the law is, and usually their mindset for thinking they know what the law is, comes from their experience in the school playground or badly formed movies from the 50's and 60's.
FOX and Trump have realized how easy it is to manipulate the latter group. They really do a disservice to the country by not pointing out this very clear stuff you posted here Nichi. The country was founded on a healthy distrust of authority, that created checks on said authority. That's been thrown out the window.
If you ask me, JB Pritzker should get the state assembly to pass a law with draconian penalties for drunk driving - one year driver's license suspension with no dispensation for work, jail time if there is any property damage or injury, and on 2nd offense or if someone with a suspension is found driving.
Then fire up a huge Illinois State Patrol presence to very strictly enforce drunk driving. Make random checks on people known to have suspended licenses, check their work places, the bars they are known to frequent.
That would learn a lot of MAGAs real fast about government overreach, er I mean it would save a lot of lives!
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Dunning-Kruger effect.
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These videos are getting worse, modulo no new fatalities.
Trump has turned this place into a banana republic. Brutal.
17 year old kid working pushing carts at target, just randomly grabbed by a bunch of goons, thrown in a van, beaten up, then chucked out of the van when they pretty much figured out "oh well, seems like the guy is a citizen after all".
What bullshit.
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A front page headline in today's fishwrap:
Iranians are open to talks with U.S.
The front page also includes articles concerning Minnesota government officials being open to talks regarding cooperation between state and federal law enforcement.
Just kidding. There aren't any of these.
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Supposedly from a lawyer. Interesting:
There seems to be a lot of Keyboard attorneys.online today. So, as an actual attorney, I'd like to cite actual law. The ICE officer in MN violated both protocol and case law.
1) officers are not allowed to fire into a moving vehicle
2) lethal force is not allowed to prevent someone from fleeing
3) case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense
At best, this officer acted with a reckless disregard for public safety and is guilty of negligent homicide.
Federal agents do not have blanket immunity from state laws or criminal prosecution. They can be prosecuted by state authorities for violating state laws if their actions were unauthorized, unlawful, or unreasonable, even if they were on duty.
The concept governing this is called Supremacy Clause immunity. Federal agents are generally immune from state prosecution only if their actions were:bAuthorized under federal law; and
"Necessary and proper" to fulfill their federal duties.
If a federal agent is charged in state court, they can petition to have their case "removed" to federal court. In federal court, the judge would then determine whether the agent's actions met the "necessary and proper" standard.
If the court finds the agent was acting within the reasonable confines of their duties, the state charges will be dismissed.
If not, the state prosecution can proceed in federal court, applying state substantive law. It is unlikely any judge would find his behavior necessary and reasonable. The mere fact that no other officer present unholstered their weapon and appear shocked he fired towards them reinforces that fact.
Estate of Starks v. Enyart, 5 F.3d 230 (7th Cir. 1993) Seventh Circuit – foundational case facts: Officer stepped in front of a slowly moving vehicle and then shot the driver, claiming fear for his life. Holding (paraphrased) “An officer may not unreasonably create a physically threatening situation and then use deadly force to escape it.”
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Ninth Circuit Facts: Officer jumped in front of a vehicle during a stop and then fired. Holding: An officer cannot provoke a confrontation and then rely on the danger they created to justify deadly force. Key language: The court emphasized that reasonableness includes the officer’s own tactical decisions leading up to the shooting.
Thompson v. Hubbard, 257 F.3d 896 (8th Cir. 2001) Eighth Circuit Key point: The court rejected summary judgment for officers where evidence showed the officer moved into the vehicle’s path, creating the perceived threat.
Abraham v. Raso, 183 F.3d 279 (3d Cir. 1999)
Third Circuit Facts: Off-duty officer shot a fleeing driver. Holding: The court stressed that pre-seizure conduct matters and that officers cannot rely solely on the “split second” framing if their own actions escalated the situation.
Kirby v. Duva, 530 F.3d 475 (6th Cir. 2008)
Holding: Deadly force may be unconstitutional where:
-The officer fired into a moving vehicle
-The officer could have stepped aside
-The threat was self-created
The Sixth Circuit explicitly rejected the idea that a moving car automatically justifies gunfire.
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Holding: An officer may not intentionally place himself in danger and then use deadly force to neutralize the danger he created — including firing into a vehicle. The Ninth Circuit emphasized tactical disengagement as the constitutional expectation.
Training & Policy Alignment (Courts Care About This) Many courts note that modern police training instructs:
-Do not fire into moving vehicles
-Do not use deadly force to stop a fleeing car
-Disengage and contain instead
Courts treat violations of training as evidence of unreasonableness, even if not dispositive.
Copied and pasted.
Kirby v Duva is addressed in a different case that went to SCOTUS and SCOTUS writes ....
"In Estate of Kirby v. Duva, 530 F.3d 475, 482 (6th Cir. 2008),
cited to by respondents, the Sixth Circuit held summary judgment
was improper as triable issues of fact existed regarding whether
the officers reasonably believed they were in danger prior to
shooting the decedent, which is not an issue here, as the trier of
fact specifically found the officers reasonably feared for their
safety. (App.108a.)"
In Kirby v Duva at the lower level, ballistics and physical evidence appeared to infer that the officers were not in danger.
This is what SCOTUS brought up.
I'm not sure what the lawyer accomplished by mentioning his/her view on the holdings in Kirby v Duva
The SCOTUS mention of Kirby v Duvav in .....
COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES,
DEPUTY CHRISTOPHER CONLEY
and DEPUTY JENNIFER PEDERSON,
Petitioners,
–v–
ANGEL MENDEZ and JENNIFER LYNN GARCIA,
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Supposedly from a lawyer. Interesting:
There seems to be a lot of Keyboard attorneys.online today. So, as an actual attorney, I'd like to cite actual law. The ICE officer in MN violated both protocol and case law.
1) officers are not allowed to fire into a moving vehicle
2) lethal force is not allowed to prevent someone from fleeing
3) case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense
At best, this officer acted with a reckless disregard for public safety and is guilty of negligent homicide.
Federal agents do not have blanket immunity from state laws or criminal prosecution. They can be prosecuted by state authorities for violating state laws if their actions were unauthorized, unlawful, or unreasonable, even if they were on duty.
The concept governing this is called Supremacy Clause immunity. Federal agents are generally immune from state prosecution only if their actions were:bAuthorized under federal law; and
"Necessary and proper" to fulfill their federal duties.
If a federal agent is charged in state court, they can petition to have their case "removed" to federal court. In federal court, the judge would then determine whether the agent's actions met the "necessary and proper" standard.
If the court finds the agent was acting within the reasonable confines of their duties, the state charges will be dismissed.
If not, the state prosecution can proceed in federal court, applying state substantive law. It is unlikely any judge would find his behavior necessary and reasonable. The mere fact that no other officer present unholstered their weapon and appear shocked he fired towards them reinforces that fact.
Estate of Starks v. Enyart, 5 F.3d 230 (7th Cir. 1993) Seventh Circuit – foundational case facts: Officer stepped in front of a slowly moving vehicle and then shot the driver, claiming fear for his life. Holding (paraphrased) “An officer may not unreasonably create a physically threatening situation and then use deadly force to escape it.”
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Ninth Circuit Facts: Officer jumped in front of a vehicle during a stop and then fired. Holding: An officer cannot provoke a confrontation and then rely on the danger they created to justify deadly force. Key language: The court emphasized that reasonableness includes the officer’s own tactical decisions leading up to the shooting.
Thompson v. Hubbard, 257 F.3d 896 (8th Cir. 2001) Eighth Circuit Key point: The court rejected summary judgment for officers where evidence showed the officer moved into the vehicle’s path, creating the perceived threat.
Abraham v. Raso, 183 F.3d 279 (3d Cir. 1999)
Third Circuit Facts: Off-duty officer shot a fleeing driver. Holding: The court stressed that pre-seizure conduct matters and that officers cannot rely solely on the “split second” framing if their own actions escalated the situation.
Kirby v. Duva, 530 F.3d 475 (6th Cir. 2008)
Holding: Deadly force may be unconstitutional where:
-The officer fired into a moving vehicle
-The officer could have stepped aside
-The threat was self-created
The Sixth Circuit explicitly rejected the idea that a moving car automatically justifies gunfire.
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Holding: An officer may not intentionally place himself in danger and then use deadly force to neutralize the danger he created — including firing into a vehicle. The Ninth Circuit emphasized tactical disengagement as the constitutional expectation.
Training & Policy Alignment (Courts Care About This) Many courts note that modern police training instructs:
-Do not fire into moving vehicles
-Do not use deadly force to stop a fleeing car
-Disengage and contain instead
Courts treat violations of training as evidence of unreasonableness, even if not dispositive.
Copied and pasted.
The lawyer mentions cases that address the officer putting himself in danger.
Where is the agent in this image ?
He certainly doesn't appear in it, but becomes visible after Good changed the orientation of the vehicle after backing up.
A lawyer with over 20 years as a DOJ prosecutor cites this image and what he views to be applicable SCOTUS decisions.
(https://i.ibb.co/7Jj5VryR/Screenshot-20260113-070037-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/99cL2yYV)
And the DOJ prosecutor's closing ....
(https://i.ibb.co/hqvMBPg/Screenshot-20260113-071101-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zkw5Xym)
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Barb McQuade, a lawyer, posts "Retired Agent Greg Stejskal writes, Minnesota has its own duty to investigate a homicide occurring in its jurisdiction. FBI has no right to freeze out state investigators."
What I read is that the state can investigate all they want and that the FBI has no obligation to include the state in their investigation.
Barb McQuade.
UMich Law prof; former US Atty EDMI; MSNOW legal analyst;
McQuade was appointed as US Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan by Obama and resigned when Trump took office.
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Gov Walz signed this statute into effect.
609.066 AUTHORIZED USE OF DEADLY FORCE BY PEACE OFFICERS
(https://i.ibb.co/XfztMzR8/Screenshot-20260113-082634-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/NgLKbLBS)
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A front page headline in today's fishwrap:
Iranians are open to talks with U.S.
The front page also includes articles concerning Minnesota government officials being open to talks regarding cooperation between state and federal law enforcement.
Just kidding. There aren't any of these.
We had a deal with the Iranians, but Desr Leader scrapped it because “the black guy did it!”
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We had a deal with the Iranians, but Desr Leader scrapped it because “the black guy did it!”
Thought we created this mess in 1953?
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Supposedly from a lawyer. Interesting:
There seems to be a lot of Keyboard attorneys.online today. So, as an actual attorney, I'd like to cite actual law. The ICE officer in MN violated both protocol and case law.
1) officers are not allowed to fire into a moving vehicle
2) lethal force is not allowed to prevent someone from fleeing
3) case law is clear, an officer cannot intentionally place himself in front of a vehicle and then allege self defense
At best, this officer acted with a reckless disregard for public safety and is guilty of negligent homicide.
Federal agents do not have blanket immunity from state laws or criminal prosecution. They can be prosecuted by state authorities for violating state laws if their actions were unauthorized, unlawful, or unreasonable, even if they were on duty.
The concept governing this is called Supremacy Clause immunity. Federal agents are generally immune from state prosecution only if their actions were:bAuthorized under federal law; and
"Necessary and proper" to fulfill their federal duties.
If a federal agent is charged in state court, they can petition to have their case "removed" to federal court. In federal court, the judge would then determine whether the agent's actions met the "necessary and proper" standard.
If the court finds the agent was acting within the reasonable confines of their duties, the state charges will be dismissed.
If not, the state prosecution can proceed in federal court, applying state substantive law. It is unlikely any judge would find his behavior necessary and reasonable. The mere fact that no other officer present unholstered their weapon and appear shocked he fired towards them reinforces that fact.
Estate of Starks v. Enyart, 5 F.3d 230 (7th Cir. 1993) Seventh Circuit – foundational case facts: Officer stepped in front of a slowly moving vehicle and then shot the driver, claiming fear for his life. Holding (paraphrased) “An officer may not unreasonably create a physically threatening situation and then use deadly force to escape it.”
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Ninth Circuit Facts: Officer jumped in front of a vehicle during a stop and then fired. Holding: An officer cannot provoke a confrontation and then rely on the danger they created to justify deadly force. Key language: The court emphasized that reasonableness includes the officer’s own tactical decisions leading up to the shooting.
Thompson v. Hubbard, 257 F.3d 896 (8th Cir. 2001) Eighth Circuit Key point: The court rejected summary judgment for officers where evidence showed the officer moved into the vehicle’s path, creating the perceived threat.
Abraham v. Raso, 183 F.3d 279 (3d Cir. 1999)
Third Circuit Facts: Off-duty officer shot a fleeing driver. Holding: The court stressed that pre-seizure conduct matters and that officers cannot rely solely on the “split second” framing if their own actions escalated the situation.
Kirby v. Duva, 530 F.3d 475 (6th Cir. 2008)
Holding: Deadly force may be unconstitutional where:
-The officer fired into a moving vehicle
-The officer could have stepped aside
-The threat was self-created
The Sixth Circuit explicitly rejected the idea that a moving car automatically justifies gunfire.
Adams v. Speers, 473 F.3d 989 (9th Cir. 2007) Holding: An officer may not intentionally place himself in danger and then use deadly force to neutralize the danger he created — including firing into a vehicle. The Ninth Circuit emphasized tactical disengagement as the constitutional expectation.
Training & Policy Alignment (Courts Care About This) Many courts note that modern police training instructs:
-Do not fire into moving vehicles
-Do not use deadly force to stop a fleeing car
-Disengage and contain instead
Courts treat violations of training as evidence of unreasonableness, even if not dispositive.
Copied and pasted.
Did you get this from a Facebook post ?
A Facebook post is what I see if I look at Starks vs Enyart sites.
A "lawyer" can be a real estate or divorce lawyer who lives next door.
(https://i.ibb.co/Zprf43yb/Screenshot-20260113-100559-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/W4XH8QSR)
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Thought we created this mess in 1953?
Is this supposed to be a “gotcha?”
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A front page headline in today's fishwrap:
Iranians are open to talks with U.S.
They figure we are kindred souls now
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LOL Nick Shirley. Not super bright.
https://x.com/adammocklerr/status/2011177912771162570?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I didn't see anyone asking for the agent's hospital records, even tho they could be protected under HIPAA.
Did the left know that he was hit ? 🤔
AI.
Yes, Jonathan Ross suffered internal bleeding.This refers to Jonathan Ross, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent involved in the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good during an incident in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026.According to reports from CBS News (cited by multiple outlets including Newsweek and Daily Mail), two U.S. officials briefed on his condition stated that Ross experienced internal bleeding to the torso following the encounter. The extent of the bleeding remains unclear, but he was hospitalized briefly and released the same day, as confirmed by Department of Homeland Security officials and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.
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From a May ICE operation in Chicago.
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/2011245839096725808?s=20
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I didn't see anyone asking for the agent's hospital records, even tho they could be protected under HIPAA.
Did the left know that he was hit ? 🤔
AI.
Yes, Jonathan Ross suffered internal bleeding.This refers to Jonathan Ross, the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent involved in the fatal shooting of Renee Nicole Good during an incident in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026.According to reports from CBS News (cited by multiple outlets including Newsweek and Daily Mail), two U.S. officials briefed on his condition stated that Ross experienced internal bleeding to the torso following the encounter. The extent of the bleeding remains unclear, but he was hospitalized briefly and released the same day, as confirmed by Department of Homeland Security officials and Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem.
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
So AI is only good when Nichi or you share it. Got it…
LOL
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If Ross suffered internal bleeding I have a 40 inch dick.
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If Ross suffered internal bleeding I have a 40 inch dick.
A bruise or contusion is a form of internal bleeding, no?
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A bruise or contusion is a form of internal bleeding, no?
You're unreal.
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A bruise or contusion is a form of internal bleeding, no?
Trump should have just reported he has an owie. Which is probably also a lie.
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Nice super-slow mo video for you. Ross wasn't injured. But he did fire two shots from the side, likely the deadly shots. The first shot is at an angle he's unlikely to be hit at.
https://x.com/i/status/2009082687957684475
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https://twitter.com/i/status/2011110049372918203
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Nice super-slow mo video for you. Ross wasn't injured. But he did fire two shots from the side, likely the deadly shots. The first shot is at an angle he's unlikely to be hit at.
https://x.com/i/status/2009082687957684475
What about the angles he is?! 🤔
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What about the angles he is?! 🤔
You can still literally see the gunsmoke here (the first shot). Notice where his feet are compared to the vehicle.
(https://i.postimg.cc/htD3cbtg/IMG-4965.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bs5RRnnF)
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https://x.com/walshfreedom/status/2011258633900998936?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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AI
During an immigration enforcement operation in Minneapolis on January 7, 2026, Agent Jonathan Ross was reportedly struck by a vehicle driven by Renee Nicole Good, whom he then fatally shot. Ross was taken to the hospital and treated for internal bleeding to the torso and was released the same day.
The nature and severity of his injuries have been disputed by local officials. Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey claimed the agent's injuries were minor, while the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) confirmed the internal bleeding. The FBI is investigating the shooting.
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AI Mode
Internal bleeding of the torso refers to a medical emergency where blood escapes from blood vessels and collects inside body cavities like the chest, abdomen, or pelvis. It is often invisible from the outside and can lead to life-threatening conditions such as hemorrhagic shock or organ failure.
Can a patient be treated and released the same day?
While most cases of internal bleeding in the torso require hospitalization for monitoring or surgery, same-day discharge is possible under specific, limited circumstances:
Minor, Low-Risk Cases: Some young, healthy patients with "self-limited" and asymptomatic gastrointestinal (GI) bleeding may be safely discharged for outpatient evaluation.
Standardized Risk Scores: Doctors use specific scoring systems (like the Glasgow-Blatchford Score for GI bleeds) to identify low-risk patients who do not require immediate intervention and can be released early.
Observation & Stability: If the bleeding is minor and stops on its own, and the patient remains hemodynamically stable (normal blood pressure and heart rate), they might be released after a period of observation in the emergency department.
However, most torso bleeding cases are considered medical emergencies and typically involve:
Hospital Admission: To monitor for delayed hemorrhage or sudden drops in blood pressure.
Emergency Surgery: Procedures like an exploratory laparotomy (abdomen) or thoracotomy (chest) are often required to stop active bleeding.
Extended Stay: High-grade organ injuries (e.g., to the spleen or liver) generally require an extended hospital stay to ensure no serious complications occur.
Common Symptoms of Torso Bleeding
Abdomen: Severe pain, swelling, rigidity, or bruising around the navel or flanks.
Chest: Difficulty breathing, chest pain, or coughing up blood.
Digestive Tract: Vomiting blood (looks like coffee grounds) or passing black, tarry stools.
Shock Signs: Rapid heart rate, shallow breathing, dizziness, clammy skin, or loss of consciousness.
This is for informational purposes only. For medical advice or diagnosis, consult a professional.
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He probably got treated for kidney stones and high cholesterol
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You're unreal.
Just noting the possible pitfall for you in this particular scenario. Undoubtedly a bruise is what the Administration was actually referencing.
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....
(https://i.ibb.co/hqvMBPg/Screenshot-20260113-071101-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/zkw5Xym)
This is meaningless without context. Video shows the driver had turned her wheels to her left as she backed up.Then, as she slowly moved forward, she turned wheels to the right. At some point, they would have been straight.
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Just noting the possible pitfall for you in this particular scenario. Undoubtedly a bruise is what the Administration was actually referencing.
I’m sure Trump appreciates you going to bat for him.
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I’m sure Trump appreciates you going to bat for him.
It's not going to bat, it is noting that you may have your head out over your skis based on the strict definitions.
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You can still literally see the gunsmoke here (the first shot). Notice where his feet are compared to the vehicle.
(https://i.postimg.cc/htD3cbtg/IMG-4965.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bs5RRnnF)
This is the most telling still frame. The gun discharges at this instant, and she’s clearly not a danger to run him over. Then…he fires two more shots through the drivers side window. “Fucking bitch…”
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He probably got treated for kidney stones and high cholesterol
I am thinking IBS acted up due to emotional trauma. An anal fissure or hemmoroid.
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Gotta love ICE! Look at the amount of ICE assholes desperately trying to block people from taking pictures.
https://x.com/noturtlesoup17/status/2011148947411407258?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Where is the agent in this image ?
(https://i.ibb.co/7Jj5VryR/Screenshot-20260113-070037-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/99cL2yYV)
Note the wheels are turned to her left so she had backed up. I think he was walking around the vehicle. At this point, possibly somewhere near the rear on the opposite side, perhaps engaging with Becca Good?
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https://x.com/calltoactivism/status/2011086660927119858?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Report they detained an American citizen restaurant owner. He had been reported missing and found to be In ICE custody.
ICE is stopping random people and demanding proof of citizenship.
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Large number of resignations the last couple of days at the DOJ.
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If he shot her three times after he got hit by the car; isn't that retaliation?
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Note the wheels are turned to her left so she had backed up. I think he was walking around the vehicle. At this point, possibly somewhere near the rear on the opposite side, perhaps engaging with Becca Good?
I think, possibly, perhaps that he's not visibly in front of the vehicle.
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A GoFundMe for Jonathon Ross has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars. He doesn’t need it for legal fees. They’re just giving it to him. Which makes one wonder, will other ICE agents kill someone in order to profit from it?
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If he shot her three times after he got hit by the car; isn't that retaliation?
“Fucking bitch” deserved it, didn’t she?
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A GoFundMe for Jonathon Ross has raised hundreds of thousands of dollars. He doesn’t need it for legal fees. They’re just giving it to him. Which makes one wonder, will other ICE agents kill someone in order to profit from it?
Not sure the notoriety is worth it. Thought I read the family was moved out of their house after his name became public.
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And he has the cost of 24/7/365 security.
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LOL
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Thanks Kristi!
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https://x.com/microinteracti1/status/2011193072038920615?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I think, possibly, perhaps that he's not visibly in front of the vehicle.
I would have to review videos to be certain. That said, I am fairly sure he had passed by the driver's side window and had an exchange with Renee Good. He then walked the rest of the way around the vehicle to the other side. He had a brief contact with Becca Good. After this still he would walk to the front of the passenger side, then to the front of the driver's side.
He wasn't visible in front of the vehicle at that moment in this still because he was on the the passenger side of the vehicle.
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Note the wheels are turned to her left so she had backed up. I think he was walking around the vehicle. At this point, possibly somewhere near the rear on the opposite side, perhaps engaging with Becca Good?
Her taillights, not the turned wheels, show she is in reverse.
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Her taillights, not the turned wheels, show she is in reverse.
Do I need to provide you a link to the video? Or can you find it all by yourself?
When Renee Good backed up, she turned her wheels to her left. So since her wheels are to her left, we can tell she was either backing up or had backed up. Most likely, in this still, she had backed up.
Whatever. The agent isn't visible in front of the vehicle because he was somewhere else.
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Do I need to provide you a link to the video? Or can you find it all by yourself?
When Renee Good backed up, she turned her wheels to her left. So since her wheels are to her left, we can tell she was either backing up or had backed up. Most likely, in this still, she had backed up.
Whatever. The agent isn't visible in front of the vehicle because he was somewhere else.
She shifts to drive and her left front tire, aimed at the agent, spins on the ice. He pulled his gun with the vehicle aimed at him.
Fortunately, for him, the tire was on ice and not dry pavement.
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A couple of the neighbors that Minnesota tried to, and is still trying to protect.
Ali Bradley shows a dozen of the detainees. The image won't load.
The dozen includes two MS-13, a former South Side Crips, and 8 Paisas.
(https://i.ibb.co/qLLD0gcD/Screenshot-20260114-142630-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/xKK2mgB2)
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(https://i.postimg.cc/rsgSsRqv/IMG-4968.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/rR0dYm0J)
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She shifts to drive and her left front tire, aimed at the agent, spins on the ice. He pulled his gun with the vehicle aimed at him.
Fortunately, for him, the tire was on ice and not dry pavement.
That doesn't fit with any of the video evidence. When she began to move forward, she was turning her steering wheel to the right. Her wheels would have briefly pointed straight ahead, then to the right..
You are basically making shit up, then cherry picking details, to support the ICE agent. You are a loyal true believer.
I am looking at all the videos and drawing conclusions based on all the evidence.
I don't have a dog in a fight between fascists and commies, except fascists are worse.
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https://x.com/microinteracti1/status/2011193072038920615?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Maybe do like 5 seconds of research or check comments or community notes before posting shit would ya. This is just more rage bait that’s been throughly debunked
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That doesn't fit with any of the video evidence. When she began to move forward, she was turning her steering wheel to the right. Her wheels would have briefly pointed straight ahead, then to the right..
You are basically making shit up, then cherry picking details, to support the ICE agent. You are a loyal true believer.
I am looking at all the videos and drawing conclusions based on all the evidence.
I don't have a dog in a fight between fascists and commies, except fascists are worse.
You are making shit up to defend this woman and her shitty cause. As Mn has pointed out numerous times the tires were pointed straight forward right around the moment the car lurched forward and the first shot was fired. It’s plainly obvious.
Yeah they were left and ended up right but at that moment they were straight. You have to be blind or willfully ignorant not to be able to see it. It’s truly unbelievable you’re still making this argument.
But at the end of the day it really doesn’t even matter exactly what direction the tires were pointing when the car lurched forward because the officer doesn’t have an obligation to get down and look at the direction of the fucking tires before he makes a split second decision.
I don’t think he should have been shot, but you’re not fooling anyone with your “analysis.” You’re a true believer seeing what you want to see.
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More rage bait? SO MUCH RAGE BAIT!
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https://x.com/askdinadoll/status/2011249864345338283?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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And he has the cost of 24/7/365 security.
if only there was a simple way for him to have avoided this fate
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Maybe do like 5 seconds of research or check comments or community notes before posting shit would ya. This is just more rage bait that’s been throughly debunked
Regardless. History isn’t going to remember this era you’re enjoying so much kindly. I hope you live long enough to be shamed for it.
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if only there was a simple way for him to have avoided this fate
That “fucking bitch” got what she deserved.
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You are making shit up to defend this woman and her shitty cause.
I don’t think she should have been shot, but you’re not fooling anyone with your “analysis.” You’re a true believer seeing what you want to see.
If your latter sentence is true, the first isn't relevant. If you don't think she should have been shot, going through cartwheels about "her shitty cause" or analyzing tire marks, is just silly.
This dude should not be paid to wander around unsupervised and untrained with a gun. Period. Seems the fact he is doesn't bother you.
Somehow Mn gets his panties in a wad "oh they were defending this MS-13 dude!" The police have arrested millions of people over the years with a bystander kill rate that is very, very small. The current dopers at ICE have a horrible track record, which is a function of how that agency has been put together. When left wing "agitators" can do their best James O'Keefe impression and show up to ICE recruiting and do their best "I wanna kill. I wanna KILL. I WANNA KILL" to pad their non-resume - and GET A JOB OFFER - something is fucking wrong.
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Ilhan Omar thoroughly spanks right-wing nut “reporter.” Of course, the right-wing nuts think she cooked Omar.
https://x.com/saras76/status/2011230040365941164?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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“Where were you born?” Fucking assholes
https://x.com/thejfreakinc/status/2011440970554806718?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You guys won’t like this. Killing of Renee Good expertly broken down by frame by frame.
https://x.com/mollyploofkins/status/2011527155310809349?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You are making shit up to defend this woman and her shitty cause. As Mn has pointed out numerous times the tires were pointed straight forward right around the moment the car lurched forward and the first shot was fired. It’s plainly obvious.
Yeah they were left and ended up right but at that moment they were straight.
If tires are turned from the left to the right they will be momentarily straight.
The shooter's own video shows the driver turning steering wheel to her right.
Also, the vehicle did not "lurch"
btw
I have not weighed in on the wisdom of citizens harassing ICE. I wouldn't do it..
I don't agree with the way ICE is operating and Trump making a public spectacle of it. They should operate quickly, quietly, and surgically. Not like an occupation force harassing random people.
There should be a way for migrant workers to be here legally
Etc.
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You guys won’t like this. Killing of Renee Good expertly broken down by frame by frame.
https://x.com/mollyploofkins/status/2011527155310809349?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I’m glad we have experts like Molly Ploofkins to break things down frame by frame as if that makes any difference in a case where a split second was the difference
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I’m glad we have experts like Molly Ploofkins to break things down frame by frame as if that makes any difference in a case where a split second was the difference
As if those ICE officers haven’t been attacked before and being targeting, interfered with, and provoked. These sanctuary cities are ridiculous. Hell, the left is openly telling people to interfere and attack them…
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2011632198000976086?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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If tires are turned from the left to the right they will be momentarily straight.
The shooter's own video shows the driver turning steering wheel to her right.
Also, the vehicle did not "lurch"
btw
I have not weighed in on the wisdom of citizens harassing ICE. I wouldn't do it..
I don't agree with the way ICE is operating and Trump making a public spectacle of it. They should operate quickly, quietly, and surgically. Not like an occupation force harassing random people.
There should be a way for migrant workers to be here legally
Etc.
I do understand how the steering mechanics work. I understand that the wheels eventually went from basically left lock to right lock. I see with my own two lying eyes that the wheels happened to be pointed directly at the agent when she accelerated forward.
As Mn correctly noted, had the tires not slipped on the ice while they were pointed directly at the agent, she would have had a much more forceful contact with the agent.
Ironically, dry pavement might have caused her to hit him hard enough that he wouldn’t have been able to get clean shots off. In that case he’d have had to shoot from behind after he recovered from the initial blow. And maybe he would have, but even in that split second he’d have probably realized that wouldn’t fly and wouldn’t have fired.
It’s not getting talked about enough that he was drug and hospitalized by a vehicle over the summer and that almost certainly impacted his decision to act the way he did. So maybe if people weren’t fucking around with cars around agents, keeping them from doing their jobs while taunting them and mocking them, this probably wouldn’t have happened.
I understand you don’t like how ICE is operating but at the same time I’d hope you understand that when entire communities are hell bent on protecting illegal immigrants and criminals at all costs, swarming and blocking and “observing” and taunting and defying lawful orders and spending the better part of 3 mins blaring their horns and dancing to their own horn blasts while impeding the work of federal law enforcement, parking outside hotels where agents are trying to sleep and blaring their horns all night, encouraging violence and using overwhelmingly inflammatory rhetoric, etc, it makes any kind of tactical/surgical/quiet operation literally impossible.
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I understand you don’t like how ICE is operating but at the same time I’d hope you understand that when entire communities are hell bent on protecting illegal immigrants and criminals at all costs, swarming and blocking and “observing” and taunting and defying lawful orders and spending the better part of 3 mins blaring their horns and dancing to their own horn blasts while impeding the work of federal law enforcement, parking outside hotels where agents are trying to sleep and blaring their horns all night, encouraging violence and using overwhelmingly inflammatory rhetoric, etc, it makes any kind of tactical/surgical/quiet operation literally impossible.
This is because Trump et al chose to make this a circus
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This is because Trump et al chose to make this a circus
Mmhmmm. The DHS sends out crews to do their jobs. It became a circus when people like Good made it a circus.
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Yeah, ICE has no reason to think people wanna hurt them or could kill them. Especially by running them over…
https://x.com/icegov/status/2011516333838807231?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Mmhmmm. The DHS sends out crews to do their jobs. It became a circus when people like Good made it a circus.
She literally fucked around and found out. Plain and simple. She thought it was a far and got fucking shot. Again, plain and simple. She knew exactly what the fuck she was doing…
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Yeah the people aren’t doing anything to impede ICE. Then they whine and cry when they get ripped out of their cars and detained. Fucking idiots!
https://x.com/viralvideos/status/2011217421357760664?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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I mean look at this stupid woman. What the fuck is wrong with these people?!
https://x.com/4thofjuly365/status/2011203255536402798?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
They ran me over!!! LOL
https://x.com/jebrafaushay/status/2011223535952544146?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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This is because Trump et al chose to make this a circus
Obama deported Millions and nobody really noticed. Obama had tactfulness.
AI Overview
The deportations under the Obama administration were not a major public spectacle primarily because of the administration's policy framing, enforcement methods, and media narrative, which focused on targeting specific individuals rather than broad, public roundups.
Key factors that contributed to this difference in perception and media coverage include:
-Targeted Priorities: The Obama administration shifted its focus to deporting individuals who posed threats to national security, had serious criminal convictions, or were recent border crossers. This was framed as a targeted, data-driven approach to public safety, which generated less widespread public outrage than the more general approach of other administrations.
-Lack of Public Spectacle: Enforcement actions often lacked the highly publicized, dramatic raids that characterized later immigration enforcement. Obama-era enforcement focused more on behind-the-scenes processes like workplace audits and data sharing with local law enforcement, which were less visible to the public and the media.
-Perception of Intent: While immigrant-rights groups criticized Obama's policies as being too harsh (earning him the nickname "deporter in chief"), the administration's actions were generally perceived as less driven by overt cruelty or racial animus compared to later administrations. The administration's rhetoric often included calls for comprehensive immigration reform and pathways to citizenship, which offered a more balanced public message.
-Statistical Nuances: The high deportation numbers under Obama included many individuals apprehended and processed for "expedited removal" right at the border, often without a formal court process. These "returns" at the border are less visible and newsworthy than interior removals that involve families already established in U.S. communities.
-Media Coverage: News coverage during the Obama years was different, with some analysts suggesting the media covered the actions of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with a less critical tone compared to later years.
In essence, the Obama administration's approach was perceived as a more systematic, bureaucratic, and less confrontational method of enforcement, which resulted in less media attention and public controversy compared to approaches that utilized more visible and controversial tactics.
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You guys won’t like this. Killing of Renee Good expertly broken down by frame by frame.
https://x.com/mollyploofkins/status/2011527155310809349?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
But the wheels were spinning and had to make a split second decision.
wtf is a split second?
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Obama deported Millions and nobody really noticed. Obama had tactfulness.
AI Overview
The deportations under the Obama administration were not a major public spectacle primarily because of the administration's policy framing, enforcement methods, and media narrative, which focused on targeting specific individuals rather than broad, public roundups.
Key factors that contributed to this difference in perception and media coverage include:
-Targeted Priorities: The Obama administration shifted its focus to deporting individuals who posed threats to national security, had serious criminal convictions, or were recent border crossers. This was framed as a targeted, data-driven approach to public safety, which generated less widespread public outrage than the more general approach of other administrations.
-Lack of Public Spectacle: Enforcement actions often lacked the highly publicized, dramatic raids that characterized later immigration enforcement. Obama-era enforcement focused more on behind-the-scenes processes like workplace audits and data sharing with local law enforcement, which were less visible to the public and the media.
-Perception of Intent: While immigrant-rights groups criticized Obama's policies as being too harsh (earning him the nickname "deporter in chief"), the administration's actions were generally perceived as less driven by overt cruelty or racial animus compared to later administrations. The administration's rhetoric often included calls for comprehensive immigration reform and pathways to citizenship, which offered a more balanced public message.
-Statistical Nuances: The high deportation numbers under Obama included many individuals apprehended and processed for "expedited removal" right at the border, often without a formal court process. These "returns" at the border are less visible and newsworthy than interior removals that involve families already established in U.S. communities.
-Media Coverage: News coverage during the Obama years was different, with some analysts suggesting the media covered the actions of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) with a less critical tone compared to later years.
In essence, the Obama administration's approach was perceived as a more systematic, bureaucratic, and less confrontational method of enforcement, which resulted in less media attention and public controversy compared to approaches that utilized more visible and controversial tactics.
JD Vance touched on Obama deporting people earlier today. They were counting people who got turned away at the border as deportations…
https://x.com/jdvance/status/2011427960775909717?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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She’s stupid…
https://x.com/trumpgirllove/status/2011231208274084040?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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She literally fucked around and found out. Plain and simple. She thought it was a far and got fucking shot. Again, plain and simple. She knew exactly what the fuck she was doing…
This is really sickening.
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Yeah the people aren’t doing anything to impede ICE. Then they whine and cry when they get ripped out of their cars and detained. Fucking idiots!
https://x.com/viralvideos/status/2011217421357760664?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
A little backdrop on this person who was looking for trouble.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/14/us-news/woman-dragged-from-car-by-ice-in-minnesota-idd-as-lgbt-and-racial-justice-activist/?utm_sf_post_ref=651507481&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_sf_cserv_ref=17469289&utm_source=twitter
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Obama's "deportations" included a fair amount of deportations that occurred at the border. Those deportations were 'turn around and go back over the border.'
Somebody in the Biden administration decided to parole the border crossers into the country.
Sanctuary cities protect the illegal border crossers and the violent criminals. It's a conscious effort to protect these individuals under the guise of 'they're our neighbors.'
Immigration agents are then required to go into the communities to find these people. Sanctuary cities oppose these efforts, demand that local police not cooperate with immigration enforcement and the result can be chaos. Searching communities for the targeted individuals then results in non-targeted illegal aliens being detained and activists being arrested.
Minneapolis has streets blocked off, businesses closed down and schools closed down. Schools that remain open have allowed students to leave the schools to support and join the protests.
Math and reading scores have plummeted in recent years and the fucking Governor, who ran on education, has shown no ability to enforce law and order.
The same happened a few short years ago.
The Saint Paul Federation of Educators has called for a day of protest against ICE. They could have called for a mass campaign, involving the students, directed at lawmakers. Government is tasked with creating laws and enforcing laws.
Instead of educating the students with civics lessons they're promoting activism.
The father of Katie Abraham wants to know why her name is never mentioned while the name of a woman blocking traffic and blocking law enforcement activities is shouted across the country.
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Very few Democrats would stand when Trump addressed Congress and honored the families of victims of illegal immigrants.
Very few.
Democrats now expect everyone to rise up angry.
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What about Somali corruption?
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AI.
When and where were Renee and Becca Good married
Renee Nicole Good (also referred to as Renee Nicole Macklin Good) and Becca (or Rebecca) Good were in a committed partnership and often described as spouses or wife/widow in media coverage and Becca's own statements following Renee's death on January 7, 2026. However, there is no evidence of a legal marriage between them—no marriage certificate, license, or wedding date has been found in public records from relevant states (such as Missouri, where they previously lived in Kansas City, or Minnesota, where they resided at the time).Key details from reporting and records:Renee legally changed her last name to "Good" in 2023 in Missouri (Jackson County) specifically to share the same surname as her "partner," Rebecca Good. This is documented in court petitions and cited in multiple sources as the reason for the name change, rather than a marriage.
Missouri does not recognize common-law marriage, and no marriage records exist in searches of vital records or relevant jurisdictions.
Becca referred to Renee as her "wife" in public statements (e.g., to Minnesota Public Radio and others), and many news outlets initially described them as married. However, this appears to be an informal or emotional description of their relationship rather than a legal one.
,,,,,,,,,the family's own attorney has described them as "not legally married but... committed partners dedicated to their family."
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Trumpers are bootlickers
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What about Somali corruption?
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Rage bait!
https://x.com/thetnholler/status/2011475273275802016?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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AI Overview
There is no reliable national data that specifically tracks the total number of U.S. citizens killed annually by undocumented immigrants. The data that is available, primarily from state-level studies (mostly Texas), consistently shows that undocumented immigrants have lower homicide arrest and conviction rates than native-born U.S. citizens.
Key Findings from Research
*Data Scarcity: U.S. government agencies, including the FBI, do not track crime data by a person's immigration status on a national level, making a precise national estimate impossible to determine.
*Lower Crime Rates: Multiple academic studies and analyses by think tanks, such as the Cato Institute and the American Immigration Council, conclude that immigrants, including those who are undocumented, commit crimes at a lower rate than native-born Americans.
*Texas-Specific Data: The most detailed data comes from Texas, the only state that systematically tracks the immigration status of individuals in its justice system. A 2024 Cato Institute analysis of Texas data from 2013 to 2022 found:
-The homicide conviction rate for undocumented immigrants was 2.2 per 100,000 people.
-The homicide conviction rate for native-born Americans was 3.0 per 100,000 people.
Undocumented immigrants were 26% less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born Americans.
Unsubstantiated Claims: Claims found on social media that suggest thousands of Americans are killed annually by undocumented immigrants are not supported by any evidence and have been widely debunked by fact-checkers and experts.
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AI Overview
There is no reliable national data that specifically tracks the total number of U.S. citizens killed annually by undocumented immigrants. The data that is available, primarily from state-level studies (mostly Texas), consistently shows that undocumented immigrants have lower homicide arrest and conviction rates than native-born U.S. citizens.
Key Findings from Research
*Data Scarcity: U.S. government agencies, including the FBI, do not track crime data by a person's immigration status on a national level, making a precise national estimate impossible to determine.
*Lower Crime Rates: Multiple academic studies and analyses by think tanks, such as the Cato Institute and the American Immigration Council, conclude that immigrants, including those who are undocumented, commit crimes at a lower rate than native-born Americans.
*Texas-Specific Data: The most detailed data comes from Texas, the only state that systematically tracks the immigration status of individuals in its justice system. A 2024 Cato Institute analysis of Texas data from 2013 to 2022 found:
-The homicide conviction rate for undocumented immigrants was 2.2 per 100,000 people.
-The homicide conviction rate for native-born Americans was 3.0 per 100,000 people.
Undocumented immigrants were 26% less likely to be convicted of homicide than native-born Americans.
Unsubstantiated Claims: Claims found on social media that suggest thousands of Americans are killed annually by undocumented immigrants are not supported by any evidence and have been widely debunked by fact-checkers and experts.
The Biden administration broke any reliance on the statistics that were obtained from when immigration control year over year was done in a completely different manner.
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While anecdotes of violent crime often dominate political discourse, there is significant anecdotal and data-driven evidence of positive contributions by undocumented immigrants. These contributions generally fall into economic, professional, and community service categories.
Economic and Workforce Contributions
Undocumented immigrants are often cited as the backbone of several critical U.S. industries, filling roles that have chronic labor shortages.
*Essential Labor: An estimated 74% of undocumented workers hold "essential" roles as defined by the federal government, including 50% of all hired field and crop workers and 1-in-7 construction workers.
*Tax Contributions: Despite being ineligible for most benefits, undocumented households paid approximately $96.7 billion in federal, state, and local taxes in 2022. Many pay into Social Security and Medicare—estimated at $25.7 billion and $6.4 billion respectively in 2022—without the ability to ever collect those funds.
*Entrepreneurship: There are over 1.1 million undocumented entrepreneurs in the U.S. who start small businesses, such as grocery stores and dry cleaners, that employ both immigrants and U.S. citizens.
Professional Achievement and Innovation
Individual stories highlight undocumented immigrants who have reached the highest levels of American professional life:
"Dr. Alfredo Quińones-Hinojosa: Entered the U.S. as an undocumented farm laborer and eventually became the Chair of Neurologic Surgery at the Mayo Clinic and a world-renowned brain cancer researcher.
*Jose Antonio Vargas: A Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist who revealed his undocumented status in a 2011 New York Times essay to advocate for immigrant rights.
*Dan-el Padilla Peralta: Formerly an undocumented boy in the NYC shelter system, he became a salutatorian at Princeton and is now a leading scholar in classics.
Community Impact
Many undocumented immigrants serve their local communities in ways that are often overlooked due to their "shadow" status:
*Mentorship: Anecdotes include individuals like "Hugo," an undocumented server who spent his spare time mentoring at-risk youth, and others who serve as peer mentors for students at universities like UC Irvine.
*Non-Profit Work: Some undocumented individuals work for organizations such as The Mission Continues, helping U.S. veterans reintegrate into society.
Context on Crime Rates
While anecdotal crimes are frequently cited, multiple studies from 2025 and 2026—including data from the Cato Institute—indicate that undocumented immigrants generally have lower incarceration and homicide conviction rates than native-born U.S. citizens. Researchers suggest this is partly because undocumented individuals actively avoid drawing police attention to prevent deportation.
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The Biden administration broke any reliance on the statistics that were obtained from when immigration control year over year was done in a completely different manner.
You mean you don't like the numbers, so you want to rely on anecdotal evidence; which is notoriously inaccurate and abused by bigots to scapegoat.
At the end of the day, crimes are committed by individuals, not by groups.
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Community impact
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Community impact
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Bigotry, stereotyping,scapegoating. The purpose of this is obvious.
There are good and bad apples in every ethnic group. The left can and does the same sort of thing, painting all Trump supporters with the same brush.n
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AI Overview
Hundreds of children are killed by accidental shootings in the U.S. annually, with sources citing around 100-110 deaths per year for ages 0-14/17, though exact figures vary by reporting period and agency, with recent data showing a rise, and highlighting that most incidents involve a child finding a gun (often in their own home) and either unintentionally firing it or showing it to others.
Key Figures & Data Points
*CDC Data (2003-2021): Identified 1,262 unintentional firearm deaths for ages 0-17, averaging about 66 per year during that timeframe, with peaks in ages 11-15 and 0-5.
*Annual Averages: Around 106 children (0-17) die from unintentional shootings yearly, according to CDC/HCUP data, though others note over 100 annual deaths for ages 0-14.
*Recent Trends: 2023 saw over 400 unintentional shooting incidents involving children (shooter or victim), a record high since tracking began in 2015, indicating an increase.
Common Scenarios
*Location: Most incidents (85%) occur in a home or apartment, often the victim's own.
*Shooter Profile: In about half of cases, another person (often a brother or friend) fires the gun; in many, it's self-inflicted or by another child.
*Context: Shooters are often playing with or showing the firearm when it discharges.
Data Variation
*Figures can differ (e.g., ~100 vs. ~330 per year) depending on the age range (0-14 vs. 0-17), data source (CDC, GVA, etc.), and specific time frame, with recent years showing upward trends.
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You mean you don't like the numbers, so you want to rely on anecdotal evidence; which is notoriously inaccurate and abused by bigots to scapegoat.
Nope.
I don't like unvetted people being flown into the country by the Biden administration and unvetted individuals being paroled into the country by the Biden administration so the Democrats can get the census numbers they need, the cotton pickers that they say the country needs or the voters that they need.
Those are the needs that Democrats have asked for. Ask the NY rep for her video saying she needs the constituents. Ask Pelosi for her videos regarding the produce pickers that the Democrats want. Ask Schumer for his video about citizenship for the illegals. Those people will become the voters.
Then tell me about Martha's Vineyard kicking the illegals out in a heartbeat. But after you let the residents of Martha's Vineyard that they are bigots who used excuses to scapegoat.
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Bigotry, scapegoating. The purpose of this is obvious.
There are bad apples in every ethnic group. The left can and does the same sort of thing
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The right isn't making it difficult to rid the country of these people.
It's not bigotry and it's not scapegoating. These people should not be let into the country nor should they be protected by sanctuary status after they've come in.
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Nope.
I don't like unvetted people being flown into the country by the Biden administration and unvetted individuals being paroled into the country by the Biden administration
We have been over this again and again. If you want to say some of the screaming was less intense than usual due to volume, I will agree.
AI Overview
The claim that the Biden administration allowed "unvetted" immigrants into the country is misleading, as all individuals processed by immigration authorities undergo a vetting process, which includes security and background checks.
However, the administration has used humanitarian parole programs to admit hundreds of thousands of migrants without standard visas, a practice that critics argue has created a different pathway for entry with less rigorous screening than traditional immigration channels.
Key Points on Vetting and Entry
*All entrants are vetted: Immigrants, asylum seekers, and parolees are processed by the Department of
Homeland Security (DHS) and undergo various levels of screening and background checks, including biometric collection (fingerprints and photos) and inter-agency criminal and security checks with agencies like the FBI.
*Humanitarian Parole Programs: The Biden administration significantly expanded the use of humanitarian parole for nationals of specific countries (like Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela), allowing them to enter the U.S. legally if they applied online with a financial sponsor and arrived at a specified airport.
-These individuals were vetted for criminal history, potential fraud, and national security threats before entry.
-Critics of these programs argue that this process is less stringent than traditional visa processing, and the volume of people admitted strained the system.
*Asylum Seekers: Asylum seekers who are apprehended at the border are also processed by DHS, often released into the country with a Notice to Appear (NTA) in court, and given the opportunity to apply for asylum, which involves further vetting and interviews.
*"Gotaways": A separate issue is the large number of "known gotaways"—migrants who evade apprehension by Border Patrol. These individuals are by definition not processed by U.S. authorities and therefore do not undergo any vetting. This phenomenon is a point of significant national security concern for some critics.
In summary, the administration did not entirely eliminated vetting procedures for those encountered by authorities, but policy changes and high volumes of arrivals have led to debates about the thoroughness and effectiveness of the screening processes.
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so the Democrats can get the census numbers they need
AI Overview
Including all residents, regardless of legal status, in the U.S. Census for the purposes of congressional apportionment has complex and debated political effects. While some studies suggest a potential, but minimal, net benefit for Democrats, recent analysis indicates that the partisan impact for the next census (2030) is uncertain and could favor Republican-leaning states.
Key Points
*Apportionment Basis: The U.S. Constitution and federal law require the census to count the "whole number of persons" residing in each state for apportioning House seats and, by extension, Electoral College votes. This has historically included both citizens and non-citizens (legal and illegal immigrants).
Minimal Historic Partisan Impact: Studies analyzing past censuses, including 2020, have found that the inclusion of undocumented immigrants has had a minimal net impact on the overall balance of power in the House of Representatives.
-For the 2020 census, most researchers estimated an effect of only two to five seats switching between states due to counting undocumented immigrants.
-States that tend to have high immigrant populations, such as California and Texas, gain seats, but these states have varied political leanings, which largely offsets a clear national partisan advantage.
*Future Projections (Next Census): The situation for the 2030 census is currently difficult to forecast, and projections vary.
-Some recent data for 2019-2023 indicates that a large majority (95%) of noncitizen population growth occurred in Republican-leaning "red" states. If this trend continues, Republicans could stand to benefit from the current counting method in the next apportionment.
-Other projections for 2030, assuming current overall growth trends continue, estimate a potential net gain for Democratic-leaning states of a few seats, though the primary impact comes from legal immigration, which is a much larger population than illegal immigration.
-Political vs. Empirical Views: The debate is often highly political. Republican lawmakers have introduced legislation to require only U.S. citizens to be counted for apportionment, arguing that the current system dilutes the votes of American citizens. Democrats generally oppose such changes, citing constitutional requirements and legal precedent.
-No Direct Voting Impact: It is important to note that undocumented immigrants cannot vote, so their impact on elections is strictly through the mechanism of population-based seat apportionment and subsequent redistricting, not direct ballot box influence.
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cotton pickers .. produce pickers that the Democrats want.
Trump's immigration policies are also impacting the services and construction sectors.
This is one of the reasons we have economy growth without job growth, because there is a labor shortage.
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A little backdrop on this person who was looking for trouble.
https://nypost.com/2026/01/14/us-news/woman-dragged-from-car-by-ice-in-minnesota-idd-as-lgbt-and-racial-justice-activist/?utm_sf_post_ref=651507481&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_sf_cserv_ref=17469289&utm_source=twitter
So brave
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Trumpers are bootlickers
lol or maybe just trying to save the country from people like you
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This is Tempo/Alum/Ray/Murph’s America
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Trump's immigration policies are also impacting the services and construction sectors.
This is one of the reasons we have economy growth without job growth, because there is a labor shortage.
Maybe the Democrats can get all of their activists into the labor market instead of having them prep for their next round of riots.
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This is Tempo/Alum/Ray/Murph’s America
Trump's immigration policies are also impacting the services and construction sectors.
This is one of the reasons we have economy growth without job growth, because there is a labor shortage.
The Democrats wanted to know who would pick the crops. Without their crop pickers, the crops would rot in the fields.
This was after their 'everyone is coming here for asylum' argument fell apart when migrants said they were coming for work.
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AI Overview
Including all residents, regardless of legal status, in the U.S. Census for the purposes of congressional apportionment has complex and debated political effects. While some studies suggest a potential, but minimal, net benefit for Democrats, recent analysis indicates that the partisan impact for the next census (2030) is uncertain and could favor Republican-leaning states.
Key Points
*Apportionment Basis: The U.S. Constitution and federal law require the census to count the "whole number of persons" residing in each state for apportioning House seats and, by extension, Electoral College votes. This has historically included both citizens and non-citizens (legal and illegal immigrants).
Minimal Historic Partisan Impact: Studies analyzing past censuses, including 2020, have found that the inclusion of undocumented immigrants has had a minimal net impact on the overall balance of power in the House of Representatives.
-For the 2020 census, most researchers estimated an effect of only two to five seats switching between states due to counting undocumented immigrants.
-States that tend to have high immigrant populations, such as California and Texas, gain seats, but these states have varied political leanings, which largely offsets a clear national partisan advantage.
*Future Projections (Next Census): The situation for the 2030 census is currently difficult to forecast, and projections vary.
-Some recent data for 2019-2023 indicates that a large majority (95%) of noncitizen population growth occurred in Republican-leaning "red" states. If this trend continues, Republicans could stand to benefit from the current counting method in the next apportionment.
-Other projections for 2030, assuming current overall growth trends continue, estimate a potential net gain for Democratic-leaning states of a few seats, though the primary impact comes from legal immigration, which is a much larger population than illegal immigration.
-Political vs. Empirical Views: The debate is often highly political. Republican lawmakers have introduced legislation to require only U.S. citizens to be counted for apportionment, arguing that the current system dilutes the votes of American citizens. Democrats generally oppose such changes, citing constitutional requirements and legal precedent.
-No Direct Voting Impact: It is important to note that undocumented immigrants cannot vote, so their impact on elections is strictly through the mechanism of population-based seat apportionment and subsequent redistricting, not direct ballot box influence.
A NY Democrat was on video saying that she needed the constituents.
I don't need AI to tell me that one administration bringing in more immigrants than vetting can handle, and more than they choose to handle, wasn't deliberate. It was a census issue.
" ......their impact on elections is strictly through the mechanism of population-based seat apportionment and subsequent redistricting,"
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This is Tempo/Alum/Ray/Murph’s America
Minnesota has the same Governor as the 2020 summer of love. And Minneapolis has the same mayor.
The 3rd precinct police station that they abandoned and let burn in 2020 still hasn't been addressed.
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How long is a “heartbeat?”
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Then tell me about Martha's Vineyard kicking the illegals out in a heartbeat. But after you let the residents of Martha's Vineyard that they are bigots who used excuses to scapegoat.
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A NY Democrat was on video saying that she needed the constituents.
I’d like to see this video .
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A NY Democrat was on video saying that she needed the constituents.
I don't need AI to tell me that one administration bringing in more immigrants than vetting can handle, and more than they choose to handle, wasn't deliberate. It was a census issue.
" ......their impact on elections is strictly through the mechanism of population-based seat apportionment and subsequent redistricting,"
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"Some recent data for 2019-2023 indicates that a large majority (95%) of noncitizen population growth occurred in Republican-leaning "red" states. If this trend continues, Republicans could stand to benefit from the current counting method in the next apportionment."
It would fucking benefit Republicans
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I’d like to see this video .
Me too.
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It may exist, but if it does, I’d guess context matters.
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The Democrats wanted to know who would pick the crops. Without their crop pickers, the crops would rot in the fields.
This was after their 'everyone is coming here for asylum' argument fell apart when migrants said they were coming for work.
This is idiotic. There have always been multiple issues. Asylum was and is one. Labor shortages in agriculture, services, and construction was and is another. This is not new.
Republicans have claimed it's about elections or the census; which is bs.
I have never heard of someone needing constituents
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Then tell me about Martha's Vineyard kicking the illegals out in a heartbeat. But after you let the residents of Martha's Vineyard that they are bigots who used excuses to scapegoat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martha%27s_Vineyard_migrant_airlift
https://www.factcheck.org/2023/03/migrants-desantis-flew-to-marthas-vineyard-were-not-deported-the-next-day-as-he-claimed/
https://www.poynter.org/fact-checking/2023/marthas-vinyard-migrants-deported-florida-governor/
https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/19/desantis-marthas-vineyard-migrant-flight-lawsuit-00169841
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These fat ass Trumpers are all hard asses then we get an ICE agent who *maybe* gets grazed by a car because he's too stupid to do his job right and he goes to the hospital for "internal bleeding". Some dude is waving a snow shovel at an armed ICE agent and shoots the guy because he was "fearing for his life"
The real problem with ICE recruitment isn't that they aren't experienced, trained or vetted - it's that they are all just a bunch of pussies.
And really, these threads about all the people killed by immigrants, and by the drugs they ship here. If so and you aren't calling for the execution of Richard Sackler, then maybe you need some perspective.
I'm sort of shocked Trump hasn't given that dude a pardon. He pardons all the rest of the drug dealers. He'll probably pardon Maduro once he's served his purpose.
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The Democrats wanted to know who would pick the crops. Without their crop pickers, the crops would rot in the fields.
AI Overview
Trump's immigration policies in 2025 led to significant farm labor shortages, causing crops to rot unharvested, increasing food production costs, and raising consumer food prices, as increased enforcement and fear deterred immigrant workers, despite some late-year efforts to ease H-2A visa rules for temporary workers. The reduction in the immigrant workforce, coupled with fear, disrupted harvests, particularly in regions like California and the Pacific Northwest, impacting both large farms and smaller operations unable to access visa programs.
Key Impacts on the 2025 Harvest:
*Labor Shortages & Unharvested Crops: Increased ICE enforcement and fear of deportation led many immigrant farmworkers, who often lack legal status, to leave the fields or avoid work, resulting in crops left unpicked.
*Increased Costs & Prices: Fewer workers meant higher labor costs for farmers, which translated to higher consumer prices for fresh produce and meat.
*Fear & Uncertainty: Crackdowns, even if targeting individuals outside farms, created a climate of fear, making workers hesitant to come to work, notes this Washington State Standard article.
*Policy Shifts & Inconsistency: While initial crackdowns caused shortages, the administration later adjusted the H-2A visa program (for temporary foreign workers) and reduced farm raids, acknowledging the need for labor, but the disruptions had already occurred.
*Strain on Small Farms: Farms lacking access to guest worker programs faced severe hardship, with some small producers considering selling off livestock or quitting, reports this Sentient Media article.
Context of the Policies:
*The policies included stricter enforcement, targeting undocumented immigrants broadly, and rolling back protections, which reduced the available workforce significantly by mid-2025, according to the American Immigration Council and Council on Foreign Relations.
In essence, the aggressive immigration enforcement created a significant crisis for the agricultural sector, threatening food supply and affordability, even as some policy adjustments were made later in the year, note the American Immigration Council and Federal Register.
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Nope.
I don't like unvetted people being flown into the country by the Biden administration and unvetted individuals being paroled into the country by the Biden administration
Also: You don't like vetted people. Unless they are South African whites.
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Minnesota has the same Governor as the 2020 summer of love. And Minneapolis has the same mayor.
The 3rd precinct police station that they abandoned and let burn in 2020 still hasn't been addressed.
I think anyone who supports what is happening or has happened in MPLS should be required to go spend some time there and see what these idiots have done to the cities.
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I think anyone who supports what is happening or has happened in MPLS should be required to go spend some time there and see what these idiots have done to the cities.
Are you talking about ICE, or JJ McCarthy?
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Are you talking about ICE, or JJ McCarthy?
That's funny, Murph.
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If the presence of ICE pretty much causes a riot anywhere they go - they aren't making anything any better. The riots are worse than some random Venezuelan, even if he's a bad hombre. Saying that the people of Minneapolis should just be less upset about it - have they said thank you? - is just bad leadership.
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If the presence of ICE pretty much causes a riot anywhere they go - they aren't making anything any better. The riots are worse than some random Venezuelan, even if he's a bad hombre. Saying that the people of Minneapolis should just be less upset about it - have they said thank you? - is just bad leadership.
Dipshit activists are the ones causing riots.
Terrible leadership has caused the stunning and rapid decline of the twin cities.
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You know who hated activists? King George III.
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Activism is at the heart of being American.
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It's just fun and games. Bring your kids for dancing and music.
This was after the schools let students march to the State Capitol for some civics lesson brawling.
https://x.com/i/status/2012015100144873583
https://x.com/i/status/2011841495083422066
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That feeling when you're a member of the U.S. Congress and you realize that you're standing next to a sociopath denouncing the Governor and Mayor of your political party.
https://x.com/i/status/2010107364574408786
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That feeling when you're a member of the U.S. Congress and you realize that you're standing next to a sociopath denouncing the Governor and Mayor of your political party.
https://x.com/i/status/2010107364574408786
See if you can find the sociopath in this picture…
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Yeah ICE has no reason to believe people are out to hurt them or run them over…
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2011944814762463400?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I mean they’re all peaceful illegals and just looking for a better life…
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Dipshit activists are the ones causing riots.
Terrible leadership has caused the stunning and rapid decline of the twin cities.
You failed a lot of tests if you supposedly went to UIUC.
What changed here? The dipshit activists were already citizens of Minneapolis last year.
Pre ICE - no riots
ICE shows up - riots, people getting shot, etc...
The Mayor has been there for several years, as has Tim Walz. This stuff only seems to happen when cops or ICE start fucking things up.
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See if you can find the sociopath in this picture…
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Trick question. They all are.
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Yeah ICE has no reason to believe people are out to hurt them or run them over…
Hey Doc - it hurts when I do that.
Well then - don't do that!
QED
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Trick question. They all are.
I never said the test was difficult!
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That eyebrow raising moment when you're the chief of police and the mayor says there are residents who want your officers to fight the federal government on street.
There might be a term for that.
https://x.com/i/status/2011977998635860434
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DQPI6CiDV9_/?igsh=MWgzeGFtM3lhYXdxbg==
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If this is real, wtf?!
https://x.com/i/status/2011681294648783183
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You know who hated activists? King George III.
Custard thinks the colonists deserved it at The Boston Massacre!
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That eyebrow raising moment when you're the chief of police and the mayor says there are residents who want your officers to fight the federal government on street.
There might be a term for that.
https://x.com/i/status/2011977998635860434
That term is "It's fucking bullshit these ICE fuckers are running around"
I thought I was AOTC when I said these ICE guys are guys who played football in high school until they flunked out. Shit, these guys are dopier than that.
Well played USA. Create a situation where we have bitter young men who have no job skills for the modern world, then elect a shithead president who offers them a 50k signup bonus to run around with guns and beat up people. What could possibly go wrong?
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That eyebrow raising moment when you're the chief of police and the mayor says there are residents who want your officers to fight the federal government on street.
There might be a term for that.
https://x.com/i/status/2011977998635860434
I rememeber the conservative argument that the Second Amendment was necessary to prevent abuses by a police state.
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If this is real, wtf?!
https://x.com/i/status/2011681294648783183
If they’re overlooking domestic violence that might be good news for George Zimmerman, who is rumored to be looking for a job.
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Dipshit activists are the ones causing riots.
Terrible leadership has caused the stunning and rapid decline of the twin cities.
https://x.com/i/status/2011581757313990977
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Image claiming to show Renee Nicole Good's car aimed at ICE officer isn't what it seems
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/renee-good-car-ice-image/
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https://x.com/i/status/2011581757313990977
Rage bait
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Image claiming to show Renee Nicole Good's car aimed at ICE officer isn't what it seems
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/renee-good-car-ice-image/
Rage bait
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https://x.com/i/status/2011581757313990977
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Image claiming to show Renee Nicole Good's car aimed at ICE officer isn't what it seems
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/renee-good-car-ice-image/
I never saw that image, and it still doesn’t matter because the agent had no obligation to get down and check what direction the wheels were pointed before he acted. You can watch the videos and see that the wheels were more or less straight at the time the impact and shots occurred. That also doesn’t really matter.
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I never saw that image, and it still doesn’t matter because the agent had no obligation to get down and check what direction the wheels were pointed before he acted. You can watch the videos and see that the wheels were more or less straight at the time the impact and shots occurred. That also doesn’t really matter.
There seem to be two sets of videos, depending on which side one is on.
Perhaps the agent was under no obligation to observe his surroundings. If he had, he would have noticed the driver was turning her steering wheel to the right, her wheels were turned to the right, and the vehicle was moving slowly to the right. All of which would have told him he had ample time to move out of the way. That is why it matters.
It also matters because it helps refute the position of the administration, that Renee Good was a domestic terrorist who weaponized her vehicle and intentionally tried to run agents over..
I won't even mention that the agent shouldn't even have been standing in front of a running vehicle occupied by a driver.
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I am sure you think you and yours are exempt from harassment by ICE agents.
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Image claiming to show Renee Nicole Good's car aimed at ICE officer isn't what it seems
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https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/renee-good-car-ice-image/
I can't imagine how an AI generated image that is divorced from reality "isn't what it seems."
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I can't imagine how an AI generated image that is divorced from reality "isn't what it seems."
Try reading the article. It's a fairly good fake that was successfully passed off as real.
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So anytime an officer feels slightly threatened you can just shoot them in the face multiple times, even after they are no longer a threat. Don’t sign up for the job if you aren’t willing to assume risk.
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Again, this is when the first shot is fired. The officer’s feet are clearly to the side of the vehicle. This is at the least, voluntary manslaughter. This man (Jonathon Ross) should go to trial; but this fascist regime is trying to prevent that, because they believe they should be able to do anything to anyone, anytime they want. Also, well after he shoots her he says “fucking bitch;” he wanted to shoot her.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXFQq9q5/IMG-4986.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZC0Hcs9D)
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When your wheels are turned far left there is no way to go straight without turning the steering wheel to the right. That's it.
For the tires to be pointed at the agent she had to turn the steering wheel to the right. There's no other way to do it.
He may not have been standing in front of the vehicle. Her reversing the vehicle with the wheels fully turned may have placed him in front of the vehicle. Her significant other, they weren't married, then yelled "drive".
She put the vehicle in drive, her tires were pointed at the agent, who was now oriented in front of the vehicle, she hit the gas and her left front tire spun on ice.
The agent has zero idea what the woman who had been blocking the street for several minutes while laying on her horn is going to do. Zero.
If there was no ice, the agent gets hit harder.
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Again, this is when the first shot is fired. The officer’s feet are clearly to the side of the vehicle. This is at the least, voluntary manslaughter. This man (Jonathon Ross) should go to trial; but this fascist regime is trying to prevent that, because they believe they should be able to do anything to anyone, anytime they want. Also, well after he shoots her he says “fucking bitch;” he wanted to shoot her.
(https://i.postimg.cc/zXFQq9q5/IMG-4986.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/ZC0Hcs9D)
Where are you getting that he said "fucking bitch" ?
If he wanted to shoot her, he had plenty of time to do that before her partner yelled 'drive' and she hit the gas.
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Try reading the article. It's a fairly good fake that was successfully passed off as real.
Lofl. I did read the article.
If someone thought it was real that's their own fault.
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Where are you getting that he said "fucking bitch" ?
Have you even watched the fucking video?
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Have you even watched the fucking video?
You didn't answer the question.
I have watched the fucking video.
Where are you getting that he said "fucking bitch" ?
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You didn't answer the question.
I have watched the fucking video.
Where are you getting that he said "fucking bitch" ?
You’re just now seeing/hearing this for the first time?
https://x.com/aldamu_jo/status/2011472521527189749?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I mean how do you miss it?
https://x.com/jdice03/status/2009767091147059358?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You failed a lot of tests if you supposedly went to UIUC.
What changed here? The dipshit activists were already citizens of Minneapolis last year.
Pre ICE - no riots
ICE shows up - riots, people getting shot, etc...
The Mayor has been there for several years, as has Tim Walz. This stuff only seems to happen when cops or ICE start fucking things up.
I did very well in school, and am highly intelligent by virtually any measure. A key skill of highly intelligent people is pattern recognition.
The real overall pattern here is a lot more like “leave our rampant fraud and criminal/illegal utopia alone”
Yeah their system of fraud and grifting against taxpayers isn't going down without a fight. But go down it certainly will.
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I did very well in school, and am highly intelligent by virtually any measure. A key skill of highly intelligent people is pattern recognition.
The real overall pattern here is a lot more like “leave our rampant fraud and criminal/illegal utopia alone”
Yeah their system of fraud and grifting against taxpayers isn't going down without a fight. But go down it certainly will.
How come you’re so poor at recognizing these patterns when they concern Trump?
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Jeffrey Epstein - Custard: “I see no pattern.”
Blatant corruption across numerous sectors - Custard: “I see no pattern.”
Fascism - Custard: “I see no pattern.”
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How come you’re so poor at recognizing these patterns when they concern Trump?
Interesting point
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I’m not dumb, and sometimes I feel like I’m pretty smart. On days where I have my most clarity, I realize I’m kinda dumb.
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How come you’re so poor at recognizing these patterns when they concern Trump?
From what I can tell almost everything of any significance whatsoever has either been completely manufactured or exaggerated to the point of absurdity.
No evidence he went to Epstein’s island. Anyone who was anyone in NYC and FL was associated with this guy back then. No pictures, no videos, and years and years worth of time for the Dems to find one single thing that would keep him from being elected again, and nothing. There’s no “there” there, despite all your desperate wish casting.
Russia hoax. Putin made his moves while Biden and Obama were in office. Whoops!
Trump hates women. Except he keeps putting them in positions of trust and power. Whoops!
Trump is a failed businessman! A few minor entities filed for bankruptcy and some had to restructure. It was be more surprising in all these decades if a business that diverse always trying new things DIDNT have these.
Trump is grifting! Where is he fleecing the American taxpayer like these shitheads in Minnesota? Every American president seems to magically enrich themselves during their terms, and sure Trump has all these other businesses in the background going on that recent past presidents haven’t, and it presents lots of opportunities for conflicts of interest or pay to play stuff. But haven’t seen anything of dire consequence. If we are all of a sudden going to start holding our politicians to a standard that they can’t profit in any way from their positions, we won’t have any politicians left. What probably would be ok with me really. But let’s apply the rules equally for now.
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A shameful era in our history.
https://x.com/johncleese/status/2012318367785656577?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You’re full-fledged cult.
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jun/17/trump-crypto-memecoin-corruption
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/18/world/middleeast/trump-family-business-saudi-arabia.html
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https://www.project-syndicate.org/onpoint/trump-corruption-of-pardon-power-by-stephen-holmes-2025-12
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(https://i.postimg.cc/j2fjFmkW/IMG-4994.jpg) (https://postimages.org/)
(https://i.postimg.cc/qq2kLnzj/IMG-4995.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/9wF5XDP7)
"I'm automatically attracted to beautiful women — I just start kissing them, it's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it. You can do anything," he said in the 2005 conversation. "Grab 'em by the pussy."
"I did try and fuck her, she was married," Trump tells Bush. "I moved on her like a bitch."
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jared-kushner-post-white-house-business-moves-saudis-wealth-fund-mohammed-bin-salman-jamal-khashoggi/
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Custard: “I’m not seeing it.”
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https://www.commoncause.org/articles/trumps-400-million-gift-from-qatar-is-a-dangerous-deal-for-america/
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From what I can tell almost everything of any significance whatsoever has either been completely manufactured or exaggerated to the point of absurdity.
No evidence he went to Epstein’s island. Anyone who was anyone in NYC and FL was associated with this guy back then. No pictures, no videos, and years and years worth of time for the Dems to find one single thing that would keep him from being elected again, and nothing. There’s no “there” there, despite all your desperate wish casting.
Russia hoax. Putin made his moves while Biden and Obama were in office. Whoops!
Trump hates women. Except he keeps putting them in positions of trust and power. Whoops!
Trump is a failed businessman! A few minor entities filed for bankruptcy and some had to restructure. It was be more surprising in all these decades if a business that diverse always trying new things DIDNT have these.
minor entities:
Trump’s companies filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection six times between 1991 and 2009, primarily involving casinos and hotels in Atlantic City and New York. These include the Trump Taj Mahal (1991), Trump Plaza (1992), Trump Castle (1992), and Trump Entertainment Resorts (2004, 2009, 2014).
Trump's businesses lost over $1 billion between 1985 and 1994.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/18/nyregion/trump-stormy-daniels-hush-money.html
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It should have been over here (and with grab em by the pussy). But it’s a cult. We all thought Trump was being ridiculous when he said “I could shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it.” Turns out he was pretty spot on.
https://www.google.com/search?q=trump.mocking+disabled&rlz=1CDGOYI_enUS813US814&hl=en-US&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8#fpstate=ive&vld=cid:eea02234,vid:PX9reO3QnUA,st:0
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I remember when a picture with a woman on your lap on a boat was enough to end presidential bids.
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Casinos have a tough time making money
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https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2012007415932469685?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You’re just now seeing/hearing this for the first time?
https://x.com/aldamu_jo/status/2011472521527189749?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
You have no idea who said it.
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I mean how do you miss it?
https://x.com/jdice03/status/2009767091147059358?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I heard it. You have no idea who said it.
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You have no idea who said it.
If you keep trying you may be able to get your head up your own ass a little further; but I doubt it.
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Three Card MNte already dealing early in the morning.
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If you keep trying you may be able to get your head up your own ass a little further; but I doubt it.
You have no idea who said it.
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https://x.com/i/status/2011581757313990977
A little more info about Patty O'Keefe.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/01/13/in-the-car-with-minneapolis-community-patrols/
ICE trackers tailing a federal law enforcement means there is a vehicle behind the federal law enforcement vehicle.
What happens when the federal law enforcement vehicle, with ICE trackers in a vehicle behind them, comes upon a vehicle blocking traffic ?
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I remember when a picture with a woman on your lap on a boat was enough to end presidential bids.
Well, it took a little more than a picture but carry on.
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So anytime an officer feels slightly threatened you can just shoot them in the face multiple times, even after they are no longer a threat. Don’t sign up for the job if you aren’t willing to assume risk.
Who did that ?
Did the person who was shot in the face several times tell you that she was no longer a threat ?
Did she tell anyone ?
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You have no idea who said it.
That is the video taken by Jonathon Ross. It’s a near certainty that voice belongs to Jonathon Ross, and anyone who disagrees with that is being a disingenuous cunt. And likely a disingenuous fascist cunt.
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Who did that ?
Did the person who was shot in the face several times tell you that she was no longer a threat ?
Did she tell anyone ?
The fact that his feet were to the side of the vehicle.
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A little more info about Patty O'Keefe.
https://minnesotareformer.com/2026/01/13/in-the-car-with-minneapolis-community-patrols/
ICE trackers tailing a federal law enforcement means there is a vehicle behind the federal law enforcement vehicle.
What happens when the federal law enforcement vehicle, with ICE trackers in a vehicle behind them, comes upon a vehicle blocking traffic ?
That was kind of a long article. I didn't see anything that helps your cause or relates to the question.
"Following cars, making noise and filming law enforcement operations is legal, according to Tracy Roy of the Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota. Physically blocking ICE agents from making an arrest is not. (And getting arrested, Neubauer said, takes resources away from the movement, in addition to the high personal cost.)"
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The fact that his feet were to the side of the vehicle.
Also, the driver was turning her steering wheel to the right indicating she was attempting to leave, not weaponizing her vehicle, not trying to run him over. This is visible in his own video
In addition, the vehicle's wheels were turned to the right, further indicating she was attempting to leave, not weaponizing her vehicle, not trying to run him over.
Since the agent had chosen to place himself in potential danger by taking a position in front of a running vehicle occupied by a driver, he was very much obligated to take note of these crucial details before making a decision to use deadly force.
We have pointed out the rules concerning shooting at and into a moving vehicle more than once.
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Even Bill Kristol, one of the most central figures of the neoconservative movement of the Bush years, a guy who believes in fighting multiple wars on multiple fronts and spreading democracy at the point of a gun says "abolish ICE."
For the record, I don't wish to abolish ICE; but I'd like to see it shrunk to the size at which "it can be drowned in a bathtub."
https://x.com/i/status/2012522472063545404
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I feel like we know why.
https://x.com/i/status/2012337243927486853
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That is the video taken by Jonathon Ross. It’s a near certainty that voice belongs to Jonathon Ross, and anyone who disagrees with that is being a disingenuous cunt. And likely a disingenuous fascist cunt.
You could have just said that you've talked with him and you recognize his voice.
I'm not aware of anyone else saying that is Ross talking.,
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The fact that his feet were to the side of the vehicle.
She wasn't shot in the face 3 times tho.
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Also, the driver was turning her steering wheel to the right indicating she was attempting to leave, not weaponizing her vehicle, not trying to run him over. This is visible in his own video
In addition, the vehicle's wheels were turned to the right, further indicating she was attempting to leave, not weaponizing her vehicle, not trying to run him over.
Since the agent had chosen to place himself in potential danger by taking a position in front of a running vehicle occupied by a driver, he was very much obligated to take note of these crucial details before making a decision to use deadly force.
We have pointed out the rules concerning shooting at and into a moving vehicle more than once.
You don't know what she was going to do.
I doubt if anybody knew she was going to block the street.
I doubt if anyone knew she was going to lay on her horn for a few minutes.
I doubt if her friend knew she was going to try to leave her behind.
But you say that the federal law enforcement officer should have known that she was just trying to flee because you're certain that was her intent.
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That was kind of a long article. I didn't see anything that helps your cause or relates to the question.
"Following cars, making noise and filming law enforcement operations is legal, according to Tracy Roy of the Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota. Physically blocking ICE agents from making an arrest is not. (And getting arrested, Neubauer said, takes resources away from the movement, in addition to the high personal cost.)"
Try coordinating with friends to follow your local police for several days. Have somebody block traffic in front of the police car.
Hit the gas after the police tell you to get out of the car. But wait until you've got the opportunity to hit one of the officers.
Tell us how it goes.
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I'm not aware of anyone else saying that is Ross talking.,
There are many things we are unaware of. Doesn't mean they don't exist
AI Review
According to video footage captured on his own cellphone during the January 7, 2026, fatal shooting in Minneapolis, an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent, identified as Jonathan Ross, can be heard uttering the phrase "fucking bitch" immediately after shooting 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good.
*Context of the Video: The video, which was reportedly leaked to a media outlet, shows the interaction from Ross's perspective. After firing three shots into the SUV, a male voice is heard saying "fucking bitch".
*Reactions: The phrase was allegedly spoken just after Good told the agents, "I'm not mad at you," right before she was shot while attempting to drive away.
*Controversy: The video has prompted widespread outrage and is being scrutinized for evidence of intent in a potential murder trial. The Trump administration has claimed the agent acted in self-defense, while the video evidence is being cited by critics to argue that the shooting was unjustified.
Some reports initially noted that while the audio is clear, the video was sometimes described as capturing "a male voice" right after the shooting, with some outlets, such as the Daily Beast, clarifying it was "unclear" if the voice was specifically Ross's, though multiple sources attribute it to him. However, the overwhelming consensus and reporting by mainstream news and social media accounts of the incident (such as from attorney Lee Merritt) identify the voice as belonging to ICE agent Jonathan Ross.
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Try coordinating with friends to follow your local police for several days. Have somebody block traffic in front of the police car.
Hit the gas after the police tell you to get out of the car. But wait until you've got the opportunity to hit one of the officers.
Tell us how it goes.
I have a good relationship with local police. Why the fuck would I do that?
The article you linked indicated that blocking them is illegal. It did not say it's a capital offense though.
I don't know the whole story about the activities of Renee and Becca Good. It is clear she had dropped her 6 year old off at school. She was shot at 9:15 AM
The video indicates Renee had backed up and allowed some vehicles to pass. Another one declined to pass. Agents got out and approached her ...
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You don't know what she was going to do.
I doubt if anybody knew she was going to block the street.
I doubt if anyone knew she was going to lay on her horn for a few minutes.
I doubt if her friend knew she was going to try to leave her behind.
But you say that the federal law enforcement officer should have known that she was just trying to flee because you're certain that was her intent.
She had the vehicle in drive with the wheels turned to the right. She was turning her steering wheel to the right. She accelerated. It isn't a great leap to conclude she was attempting to make a right turn.
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Since the agent had chosen to place himself in potential danger by taking a position in front of a running vehicle occupied by a driver, he was very much obligated to take note of these crucial details before making a decision to use deadly force.
Wrong.
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You could have just said that you've talked with him and you recognize his voice.
I'm not aware of anyone else saying that is Ross talking.,
(https://i.postimg.cc/vmgVmpxt/IMG-4919.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/mc4DXpwP)
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Wrong.
https://docs.house.gov/meetings/JU/JU00/20260108/118805/HMKP-119-JU00-20260108-SD003.pdf
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She wasn't shot in the face 3 times tho.
You saw the body or the coroner’s report? And if even if she wasn’t. So what. She’s dead. Because this fascist Cowboy panicked. Or…just wanted to kill him a lib.
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You don't know what she was going to do.
I doubt if anybody knew she was going to block the street.
I doubt if anyone knew she was going to lay on her horn for a few minutes.
I doubt if her friend knew she was going to try to leave her behind.
But you say that the federal law enforcement officer should have known that she was just trying to flee because you're certain that was her intent.
If Ross thought he was in any real danger he’s a stupid pussy. Which means he might have thought he was in real danger, because stupid pussy is quite believable.
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However, the overwhelming consensus and reporting by mainstream news and social media accounts of the incident (such as from attorney Lee Merritt) identify the voice as belonging to ICE agent Jonathan Ross.
Common sense agrees.
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/renee-good-minneapolis-shooting-ice-trump-cops-taught-not-shoot-at-cars/
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Wrong.
https://reason.com/2026/01/12/the-ice-agent-who-killed-renee-good-disregarded-traffic-stop-guidelines/
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/renee-good-minneapolis-shooting-ice-trump-cops-taught-not-shoot-at-cars/
Mother Jones? Is it 1989 again?
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Mother Jones? Is it 1989 again?
You just cited the NYP. It’s a half-tick left of The Blaze.
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Mother Jones? Is it 1989 again?
Overall, we rate Mother Jones as strongly Left-Center biased based on story selection that moderately favors the left and High for factual reporting due to thorough sourcing and a clean fact check record.
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You just cited the NYP. It’s a half-tick left of The Blaze.
And Mr. Omar went from being broke, and married to someone else, to being rich Just different sides of the same damn coin.
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Overall, we rate Mother Jones as strongly Left-Center biased based on story selection that moderately favors the left and High for factual reporting due to thorough sourcing and a clean fact check record.
The 80s belong to the Illini!
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Overall, we rate Mother Jones as strongly Left-Center biased based on story selection that moderately favors the left and High for factual reporting due to thorough sourcing and a clean fact check record.
Rich according to whom? You seen his tax returns?
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Rich according to whom? You seen his tax returns?
Yes
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No doubt Mr. Omar will get a fair shake from a Republican led committee. He’ll have to wait until the Monica Lewinsky and Benghazi investigations are over, though.
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No doubt Mr. Omar will get a fair shake from a Republican led committee. He’ll have to wait until the Monica Lewinsky and Benghazi investigations are over, though.
Flip sides of the same coin.
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Yes
Cool, where are they? I hear he owns a couple of businesses. I thought you were pro business. Or is that just when it’s Elon Musk? If you want corruption, start there. The guy who took an axe to every governmental agnecy in his way.
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Flip sides of the same coin.
Weak strawman.
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Cool, where are they? I hear he owns a couple of businesses. I thought you were pro business. Or is that just when it’s Elon Musk? If you want corruption, start there. The guy who took an axe to every governmental agnecy in his way.
He went from broke to wealthy. He's just as scummy as the Trump kids. Feel free to call it both ways and you may be more credible on The Twotter
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You couldn’t defend the corrupt billionaires fast enough. But but but Mr Omar! You’re almost as bad as Mn.
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Weak strawman.
Absolutely true that the Prograssives are as scummy as the Trumpers
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You couldn’t defend the corrupt billionaires fast enough. But but but Mr Omar! You’re almost as bad as Mn.
Which billionaire have I defended? I never defended Musk. I chide you for actively enriching him.
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He went from broke to wealthy. He's just as scummy as the Trump kids. Feel free to call it both ways and you may be more credible on The Twotter
Pardon me if I don’t have a ton of trust in a Republican committee investigating Ilhan Omar’s husband.
I can’t recall you ever complaining about Jared Kushner’s 2 billion received from the Saudis.
How come I never hear you complain about Trump’s crypto schemes?
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Which billionaire have I defended? I never defended Musk. I chide you for actively enriching him.
You can’t be this dense. When I said the billionaires should be taxed more, you insisted that I answer 97s question on what I have contributed to society.
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And I believe Musk was mentioned specifically in that convo. Either way, you couldn’t defend the corrupt billionaires fast enough.
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All because you had a shot to “own Tempo!”
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Pardon me if I don’t have a ton of trust in a Republican committee investigating Ilhan Omar’s husband.
I can’t recall you ever complaining about Jared Kushner’s 2 billion received from the Saudis.
How come I never hear you complain about Trump’s crypto schemes?
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You are a GOP agent at this point. If it isn't intentional, that's worse.
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You can’t be this dense. When I said the billionaires should be taxed more, you insisted that I answer 97s question on what I have contributed to society.
Because I know you are just looking for handouts.
Doesn't mean I don't beleive in the weatlthy paying their fair share for an economy that has enabled them.
I can play this game too: Why haven't you complained about Pritzker ripping out toilets to pay less that goes to CPS? You defended him and cited his Republican plumber.
You are an agent provocateur
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The guy who took an axe to every governmental agnecy in his way.
Thank goodness
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You are a GOP agent at this point. If it isn't intentional, that's worse.
You quite often have a truly twisted way of looking at things. I can’t think of a single “Democrat” who would go after an Uber driver after saying “the billionaires should be taxed more.” Even Pelosi wouldn’t do that.
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You quite often have a truly twisted way of looking at things. I can’t think of a single “Democrat” who would go after an Uber driver after saying “the billionaires should be taxed more.” Even Pelosi wouldn’t do that.
You are double agent like Josh Allen throwing the gane to the Bronco
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You quite often have a truly twisted way of looking at things. I can’t think of a single “Democrat” who would go after an Uber driver after saying “the billionaires should be taxed more.” Even Pelosi wouldn’t do that.
Spoken like someone who is undermining Democrats at every turn while claiming to support them.
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Spoken like someone who is undermining Democrats at every turn while claiming to support them.
1) I support them first and foremost when they support me.
2) I support them 2nd most when my only other realistic option is a Republican. Or if they are in alignment enough. They don’t have to be ideologically “perfect.”
I’ve voted for Pritzker and Krishnamoorthi multiple times, who aren’t “squad members.”
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And I’ve been voting for Dick Durbin for 24 years.
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I worked on and had a somewhat important position in a Democratic state reps campaign.
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1) I support them first and foremost when they support me.
2) I support them 2nd most when my only other realistic option is a Republican. Or if they are in alignment enough. They don’t have to be ideologically “perfect.”
I’ve voted for Pritzker and Krishnamoorthi multiple times, who aren’t “squad members.”
As long as you are part of the grift you support them?
Of course you voted for Pritzker and defended his not paying taxes to be used for CPS students.
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I worked on and had a somewhat important position in a Democratic state reps campaign.
But are not a Democrat.
Did you work to undermine the state rep's campaign too!?
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As long as you are part of the grift you support them?
Of course you voted for Pritzker and defended his not paying taxes to be used for CPS students.
JFC we’re done today.
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JFC we’re done today.
You must be sleepy.... Laying down!
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The fact that his feet were to the side of the vehicle.
The fact he got hit by the vehicle is a near certainty, and anyone who disagrees with that is being a disingenuous cunt. And likely a disingenuous fascist cunt.
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I worked on and had a somewhat important position in a Democratic state reps campaign.
Illinois’ in great shape! Lol, and who’s to blame when Democrats have been in power?! It’s a cesspool here and they are why…
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The fact he got hit by the vehicle is a near certainty, and anyone who disagrees with that is being a disingenuous cunt. And likely a disingenuous fascist cunt.
The only video that even appears to show him by Renee Good's vehicle was tampered with -- sped up and blurred.
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The fact he got hit by the vehicle is a near certainty, and anyone who disagrees with that is being a disingenuous cunt. And likely a disingenuous fascist cunt.
If you’ve actually studied this at all you’d know you’re full of shit. A gun in one hand and a phone in the other, and ice on the ground. Had he actually been “hit” he’d almost certainly have fallen to the ground.
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The fact he got hit by the vehicle is a near certainty, and anyone who disagrees with that is being a disingenuous cunt. And likely a disingenuous fascist cunt.
Watch it 20-30x if you need to.
https://x.com/lisakrstin/status/2012301316861870573?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Illinois’ in great shape! Lol, and who’s to blame when Democrats have been in power?! It’s a cesspool here and they are why…
Illinois has always been a cesspool. Blue states are the most successful states and subsidize red states.
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The only video that even appears to show him by Renee Good's vehicle was tampered with -- sped up and blurred.
Yep. Had he actually been “hit” there’s almost no way he doesn’t get knocked down. Not with both hands occupied and firing 3 accurate shots.
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Reacher is on the investigation. I’ll keep you informed of any new findings.
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Most likely Ross leaned into the vehicle, which with where his feet are when the first shot is fired seems to be a likely conclusion. Again, the chances of him holding a phone, a pistol, delivering 3 accurate shots and not falling down after being “hit” seems extremely unlikely.
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Oh, and let me add. Fucking bitch.
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The fact that he had his arms outstretched and leaned on the vehicle is what kept him upright.
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Illinois has always been a cesspool. Blue states are the most successful states and subsidize red states.
Don’t confuse causation and correlation my friend.
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You saw the body or the coroner’s report? And if even if she wasn’t. So what. She’s dead. Because this fascist Cowboy panicked. Or…just wanted to kill him a lib.
You didn't wait until making a definitive statement about the shots.
You didn't wait to make a definitive statement that he wanted to kill her.
You've decided he's a "fascist Cowboy" who panicked.
You didn't wait to make a statement that the voice heard on audio was Ross.
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That was kind of a long article. I didn't see anything that helps your cause or relates to the question.
"Following cars, making noise and filming law enforcement operations is legal, according to Tracy Roy of the Immigrant Law Center of Minnesota. Physically blocking ICE agents from making an arrest is not. (And getting arrested, Neubauer said, takes resources away from the movement, in addition to the high personal cost.)"
Following law enforcement is legal under allowable circumstances.
Making noise is legal.
Filming is legal.
What about "The goal is to “distract them, to occupy their time,” O’Keefe said. “The more time they’re trying to get away from us, the less time they’re spending searching for people to abduct.” ?
Is coordinating and conducting activities to impede federal law enforcement legal ?
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Watch it 20-30x if you need to.
https://x.com/lisakrstin/status/2012301316861870573?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
The poster refers to Tennessee v Garner. The poster states "
Lisa Ericsson Murphy 🌊🌊Deadline Was 12/19. 🇺🇦
@lisakrstin
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Jan 17
How about you read the Supreme Court decision Tennessee vs. Garner and get back to us"
You've read Tennessee v Garner ?
"It is not, however, unconstitutional on its face. Where the
officer has probable cause to believe that the suspect poses
a threat of serious physical harm, either to the officer or
to others, it is not constitutionally unreasonable to prevent
escape by using deadly force. Thus, if the suspect threatens
the officer with a weapon or there is probable cause to believe
that he has committed a crime involving the infliction or
threatened infliction of serious physical harm, deadly force
may be used if necessary to prevent escape, and if, where
feasible, some warning has been given. As applied in such
circumstances, the Tennessee statute would pass constitu-
tional muster."
The courts have ruled that a 3500 pound vehicle can be a lethal weapon.
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Again. What direction is the left front tire facing as it begins to spin on the ice ?
The poster wants you to look at the officer's feet. The officer's feet are irrelevant.
https://x.com/i/status/2012315924800622607
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You didn't wait until making a definitive statement about the shots.
You didn't wait to make a definitive statement that he wanted to kill her.
You've decided he's a "fascist Cowboy" who panicked.
You didn't wait to make a statement that the voice heard on audio was Ross.
LOL
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Thoughts?
https://x.com/i/status/2012544221199086078
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You didn't wait until making a definitive statement about the shots.
You didn't wait to make a definitive statement that he wanted to kill her.
You've decided he's a "fascist Cowboy" who panicked.
You didn't wait to make a statement that the voice heard on audio was Ross.
Actually, you're full of shit as usual. When it happened I said it was possible the first shot could be justified. So that constitutes "waiting to make a definitive statement." Go clutch pearls elsewhere.
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Notice rather than try to get out of the way he pulls his pistol and braces himself. At best, his first shot was justifiable.
Me leaving the door open that the first shot was justifiable. So in other words, not an immediate definitive position.
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But the more I watch the video, the more I think he's a fucking loser who wanted to shoot a liberal.
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This guy is spot on. Although I'm not convinced Ross was actually "hit."
https://x.com/i/status/2010736024033382766
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Investigative notes from Jack Reacher: Ross stands in front of running vehicle (defying training and protocol), switches phone to non-shooting hand, pulls pistol. "Gets hit," slides on ice but doesn't fall down after being "hit" and not only doesn't fall, but doesn't lose grip on phone, and accurately delivers 3 shots, 2 directly from the side.of the vehicle. Reacher theory: Jonathon Ross was bitten by a radioactive spider sometime before the shooting.
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Actually, you're full of shit as usual. When it happened I said it was possible the first shot could be justified. So that constitutes "waiting to make a definitive statement." Go clutch pearls elsewhere.
What about your multiple shots to the face comment ?
2 of the shots were chest wounds.
Multiple shots to the face has a nicer ring to it, eh.
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Hyperbole. 3 shots from close range. Fuck off, you and your literalness to fucking everything. The face, the head, the neck, the knees; who gives a fuck, she’s fucking dead you disingenuous asswipe.
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We’re not lawyers cross-examining each other in court in case you didn’t notice.
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But the more I watch the video, the more I think he's a fucking loser who wanted to shoot a liberal.
If you were in a jury pool would you say that ? This guy is spot on. Although I'm not convinced Ross was actually "hit."
https://x.com/i/status/2010736024033382766
Yep, if you want to listen to an idiot for his explanation.
It's irrelevant if he was hit.
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Hyperbole. 3 shots from close range. Fuck off, you and your literalness to fucking everything. The face, the head, the neck, the knees; who gives a fuck, she’s fucking dead you disingenuous asswipe.
We'll just skip over the multiple things that you've gotten wrong so you can try to make your point tho, eh.
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We’re not lawyers cross-examining each other in court in case you didn’t notice.
You haven't gotten many things right in case you haven't noticed.
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If you were in a jury pool would you say that ? Yep, if you want to listen to an idiot for his explanation.
It's irrelevant if he was hit.
I’m not in a jury pool.
I thought he was definitively hit? Now it doesn’t matter? I’ve posted sheriffs and experts who disagree with you, but you didn’t wait to make your definitive conclusion her execution was justified…
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I’m not in a jury pool.
I thought he was definitively hit? Now it doesn’t matter? I’ve posted sheriffs and experts who disagree with you, but you didn’t wait to make your definitive conclusion her execution was justified…
She wasn't executed.
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She wasn't executed.
That’s highly debatable.
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That’s highly debatable.
How's Tennessee v Garner going for you ?
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That’s highly debatable.
Assassinated?
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How's Tennessee v Garner going for you ?
We should let this play out before you plant any victory flags. Also, Tenn vs Garner could actually backfire on you in court. Trump is doing all that he can to make sure this never gets to trial.
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Assassinated?
How bout we settle on “slaughtered?”
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Tenn vs Garner was actually a victory for citizens, not police. It depends on how well the case is argued on each side. It’s not as simple as saying “he felt threatened.”
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How's Tennessee v Garner going for you ?
What exactly do you mean by that?
The Trump Administration has taken the position that the ICE agent fired in self defense; that Renee Good drive the vehicle directly at him. In that case, Gerner is moot.
Others believe the evidence indicates Good was attempting to leave the scene. In that case, if the shooting was intended to prevent her from escaping, Martin would apply.
What if the vehicle had brushed the agent's torso on the way by; which pissed him off, and he shot her as an act of retaliation?
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We should let this play out before you plant any victory flags. Also, Tenn vs Garner could actually backfire on you in court. Trump is doing all that he can to make sure this never gets to trial.
We should let this play out before you plant any she was executed flags.
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The best chance for justice would be a civil lawsuit for wrongful death.
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We should let this play out before you plant any she was executed flags.
That’s my opinion.
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She thanks who ?
https://x.com/i/status/2012937860056232415
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I look forward to our experts, Mn and Custard on one side, and Nichi and Tempo on the other, square off in court on this one.
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I look forward to our experts, Mn and Custard on one side, and Nichi and Tempo on the other, square off in court on this one.
My calendar is booked solid.
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This is fucking disgusting…
https://x.com/claytravis/status/2013249082521702735?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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This is fucking disgusting…
https://x.com/claytravis/status/2013249082521702735?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Imagine storming the U.S. Capitol shouting “hang Mike Pence (for doing his constitutional duty)” and thinking you’re the good guys.”
https://youtu.be/Ucln7XVN47I?si=5xnmGMd9pdCMzKbF
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This person was just fleeing the scene!!!
https://x.com/azariel91/status/2013212801524011467?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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This person was just fleeing the scene!!!
https://x.com/azariel91/status/2013212801524011467?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
The first comment got it right.
MAGA comparing this to Renee Nicole Good showcases how delusional they truly are.
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The first comment got it right.
MAGA comparing this to Renee Nicole Good showcases how delusional they truly are.
LOL
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Imagine storming the U.S. Capitol shouting “hang Mike Pence (for doing his constitutional duty)” and thinking you’re the good guys.”
https://youtu.be/Ucln7XVN47I?si=5xnmGMd9pdCMzKbF
Whataboutwhataboutwhataboutwhatabout
Those people that came into the church look like real winners. Fuck em
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LMAO
Custard is full on cult. He’s getting worse at hiding it.
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By the way, my pointing out the righteous hypocrisy of the OP doesn’t mean I’m voicing support for these protestors. But carry on with your aggrievement.
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Well, after watching 60 minutes piece on Boston Dynamics, we won't have to deal with these ICE goons much longer. They'll be replaced by Robo Cop soon.
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By the way, my pointing out the righteous hypocrisy of the OP doesn’t mean I’m voicing support for these protestors. But carry on with your aggrievement.
So why post a whataboutism instead of just condemning it?!
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So why post a whataboutism instead of just condemning it?!
Exposing your cluelessness and hypocrisy. Did you condemn Jan 6? No, you blamed it on Pelosi.
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LOL
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Ice thug who murdered Renee Good
And tempo doesn’t understand the concept of rage bait
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Ice thug who murdered Renee Good
And tempo doesn’t understand the concept of rage bait
You mean like the United States Secretary of Homeland Security calling Renee Good a domestic terrorist?
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Ice thug who murdered Renee Good
And tempo doesn’t understand the concept of rage bait
I'm not quite sure how you've come to the conclusion you're gonna be immune from this disaster.
ICE goes in. Walz calls in the guard. Trump deploys troops from Alaska - you know because they are cool with the cold.
Add in the Minneapolis PD, and citizens getting more pissed off their city has turned into 1989 Beijing.
A firefight breaks out and we're all fucked. Your cushy little job can't withstand it.
Could be something as simple as a bunch of kids with drones deciding to fuck with ICE by buzzing them.
If all hell breaks loose and you're fucked - you'll be out there saying "Yes, the country got destroyed, but it was all due to those meddling kids!"
Won't matter how much you've saved up or how much gold you bought.
You should have stuck with the black lady who would have done not much.
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I'm not quite sure how you've come to the conclusion you're gonna be immune from this disaster.
ICE goes in. Walz calls in the guard. Trump deploys troops from Alaska - you know because they are cool with the cold.
Add in the Minneapolis PD, and citizens getting more pissed off their city has turned into 1989 Beijing.
A firefight breaks out and we're all fucked. Your cushy little job can't withstand it.
Could be something as simple as a bunch of kids with drones deciding to fuck with ICE by buzzing them.
If all hell breaks loose and you're fucked - you'll be out there saying "Yes, the country got destroyed, but it was all due to those meddling kids!"
Won't matter how much you've saved up or how much gold you bought.
You should have stuck with the black lady who would have done not much.
In your world, we just leave Minneapolis alone to their own devices, which is a lot scarier to me than the consequences of making a stand against these corrupt sanctuary cities running ponzi schemes against the American taxpayer while harboring criminals. I’m not afraid of these losers who are just whining and crying because their house of cards is collapsing.
I’ve seen with my own two eyes what years of corrupt and incompetent leadership has done to the greater MPLS area. It’s a dystopian hellscape compared to what it was 20 years ago. I’ve seen how far LA and SF and NYC have deteriorated in the last 20-25 years. It’s openly visible and recognizable when visiting. That’s what you’re hellbent on protecting. QED
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You mean like the United States Secretary of Homeland Security calling Renee Good a domestic terrorist?
I never used that term to describe her. I think what she was doing was stupid reckless bullshit that pushes every boundary of what can be considered reasonable and legal protest, but I don’t think she was a domestic terrorist.
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I never used that term to describe her. I think what she was doing was stupid reckless bullshit that pushes every boundary of what can be considered reasonable and legal protest, but I don’t think she was a domestic terrorist.
I shared a meme; didn't make it. However, a lot moderate to liberal people view Trump's ICE as out of control masked thugs and think Renee Good was murdered.
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LMAO
Custard is full on cult. He’s getting worse at hiding it.
Why do you hate the constitution? These losers aren’t protected by free speech.
https://x.com/michellemaxwell/status/2013346146425467070?s=46
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I shared a meme; didn't make it. However, a lot moderate to liberal people view Trump's ICE as out of control masked thugs and think Renee Good was murdered.
I wonder where they got that idea…
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Murph wants American law enforcement to stand down for Chinese funded riots and Tempo doesn’t want murderers and rapists on the streets but supports ICE protests in Minnesota where local authorities refuse to turn over illegals in custody that have arrest detainers.
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I wonder where they got that idea…
They are able to think for themselves and many have first hand information.
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They are able to think for themselves and many have first hand information.
According to some here, first-hand knowledge isn’t allowed. Custard has sited many examples from first-hand knowledge, yet many are quick to dismiss them. Also, I, along with others are able to think for ourselves and don’t share your opinion…
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According to some here, first-hand knowledge isn’t allowed. Custard has sited many examples from first-hand knowledge, yet many are quick to dismiss them. Also, I, along with others are able to think for ourselves and don’t share your opinion…
You imply people on the left get all their info from liberal media. Yet you post links to right wing social media.
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Ding ding ding…
https://x.com/rothmus/status/2013316226928230552?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Ding ding ding…
https://x.com/rothmus/status/2013316226928230552?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
We've been over this.
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/03/elon-musk-overstates-partisan-impact-of-illegal-immigration-on-house-apportionment/
https://www.thirdway.org/memo/is-illegal-immigration-really-a-democratic-plot-to-sway-congressional-apportionment
https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.34LX2QV
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Well, she wasn't a mom on her way home but, other than that, I don't have an argument with the use of the term.
(https://i.ibb.co/sv2TLYfS/Screenshot-20260120-071307-One-Drive.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PZN2BHLp)
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I never used that term to describe her. I think what she was doing was stupid reckless bullshit that pushes every boundary of what can be considered reasonable and legal protest, but I don’t think she was a domestic terrorist.
What would you call people coordinating and carrying out efforts, on domestic soil, to impede federal law enforcement activities ?
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I shared a meme; didn't make it. However, a lot moderate to liberal people view Trump's ICE as out of control masked thugs and think Renee Good was murdered.
It's only viewed by some as out of control because Minneapolis has a mayor and the state has a governor who refuse to let ICE run federal law enforcement activities and who hide behind 'love' and 'neighbor' as excuses.
Nobody loves the murderer or child predator neighbor living next door as much as the mayor.
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Why do you hate the constitution? These losers aren’t protected by free speech.
https://x.com/michellemaxwell/status/2013346146425467070?s=46
The Minnesota AG has apparently equated the right to freedom of expression with freedom of religion.
He could have said the infringement of someone's constitutional rights shall not be infringed by someone who thinks their freedom of expression should prevail during a religious service.
But, nah.
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"... in Minnesota where local authorities refuse to turn over illegals in custody that have arrest detainers."
👆 💯%
This is the issue. The mayor and governor can cooperate, as other cities have done. It's not really that hard.
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What would you call people coordinating and carrying out efforts, on domestic soil, to impede federal law enforcement activities ?
I didn’t realize the definition was this broad. Tend to think of terrorism as more explicitly violent. But after reading that I can see a case can certainly be made that these people are domestic terrorists by definition. Seems a bit extreme to me even though I deeply dislike what they’re doing.
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This is fucking disgusting…
https://x.com/claytravis/status/2013249082521702735?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
'I can't tell you exactly what they're doing or where they're going'
https://x.com/i/status/2013219366574145723
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'I can't tell you exactly what they're doing or where they're going'
https://x.com/i/status/2013219366574145723
Lemon wouldn’t have gone into a black church like that 😬
https://x.com/saras76/status/2013447842786898263?s=46
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Lemon wouldn’t have gone into a black church like that 😬
https://x.com/saras76/status/2013447842786898263?s=46
It was supposed to be ICE going into that church. Because "that's who they are."
https://x.com/i/status/2013048248710176782
Pro-lifers were arrested in early morning SWAT raids and charged with violations of the FACE Act and 10 year prison sentences. Mark Houck was outside, not inside, of an abortion clinic and arrested.
We'll see what happens.
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The Saint Paul newspaper, after nothing yesterday, waited until today's fishwrap to include an AP article.
The police spokesperson said the protestors were all gone by the time police arrived.
https://x.com/i/status/2013254697675608530
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https://x.com/i/status/2013006766389285206
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AI
Yes, Minnesota State Representative Leigh Finke (often referred to as Leah or Leigh Finke) did call for more such actions. Following an incident where anti-ICE protesters disrupted a church service at Cities Church in St. Paul (where a local ICE office leader also serves as pastor), Finke posted on Facebook praising the disruption as "nonviolent resistance" that is "essential." She explicitly stated that these actions "must continue" until ICE is removed from the state, the current administration is out of the White House, and broader goals of dignity for immigrants are met. Multiple conservative-leaning outlets (e.g., Alpha News, The Gateway Pundit) reported on this in January 2026, framing it as her encouraging more church-targeted anti-ICE protests. The reports quote her directly from the Facebook post, and the phrasing has been widely shared as a call for escalation of similar disruptions. No mainstream counter-reports appear to dispute the quote or context.
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What would you call people coordinating and carrying out efforts, on domestic soil, to impede federal law enforcement activities ?
Civil disobedience? The Boston Massacre? Anti-abortion protestors? Tim McVeigh? Jan. 6th terrorists?
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The Minnesota AG has apparently equated the right to freedom of expression with freedom of religion.
He could have said the infringement of someone's constitutional rights shall not be infringed by someone who thinks their freedom of expression should prevail during a religious service.
But, nah.
Thought your feelings shouldn't matter?
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It's only viewed by some as out of control because Minneapolis has a mayor and the state has a governor who refuse to let ICE run federal law enforcement activities and who hide behind 'love' and 'neighbor' as excuses.
Nobody loves the murderer or child predator neighbor living next door as much as the mayor.
This is just an asinine comment. Basically saying if we support due process rights; then we are on the criminals,' side.
It was out of control before Minnesota.
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What would you call people coordinating and carrying out efforts, on domestic soil, to impede federal law enforcement activities ?
Protestors
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Well, she wasn't a mom on her way home but, other than that, I don't have an argument with the use of the term.
(https://i.ibb.co/sv2TLYfS/Screenshot-20260120-071307-One-Drive.jpg) (https://ibb.co/PZN2BHLp)
So Samuel Adams and Paul Revere were domestic terrorists? Who knew?
If civil disobedience is now defined as terrorism; we are in worse shape than I could have imagined.
I would insist that terrorism involves violence or the credible threat of violence against the civilian population. Otherwise, it's meaningless.
"Terror signifies an extreme state of fear, dread, or panic, and also refers to acts of political violence designed to instill such fear"-- AI
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The Minnesota AG has apparently equated the right to freedom of expression with freedom of religion.
He could have said the infringement of someone's constitutional rights shall not be infringed by someone who thinks their freedom of expression should prevail during a religious service.
But, nah.
Not what he said. He said the FACE Act should not apply. I am not sure why.
The Heritage Foundation says the FACE Act is unconstitutional and should be repealed
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Ice thug who murdered Renee Good
And tempo doesn’t understand the concept of rage bait
I mean, he kinda did murder her.
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Love how we are now trying to equate misguided fat lesbians protecting illegal aliens with Sam Adams and Paul Revere. At least their causes made sense.
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Love how we are now trying to equate misguided fat lesbians protecting illegal aliens with Sam Adams and Paul Revere. At least their causes made sense.
absurd?
It seems your pattern recognition skills failed you. Our friend from MN actually equated Sam Adams and Paul Revere, as well as Renee and Becca Good, with the likes of Tim McViegh, Robert Bowers, Payton Gendron, Ted Kaczynski, Dylann Roof, Wade Michael Page ....
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This makes more sense
AI Overview
The federal definition of domestic terrorism involves violent, criminal acts within the U.S. that are intended to intimidate a civilian population or influence government policy through coercion, mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping, stemming from domestic ideological influences like political, religious, or racial motives, and lacking foreign direction. Key U.S. law (18 U.S.C. § 2331) outlines this, with the FBI defining it as ideologically-driven violence by U.S. persons within the U.S. for domestic goals, distinct from international terrorism.
Key Components of the Federal Definition
Violent Criminal Acts: Must involve actions that violate U.S. or state criminal laws, dangerous to human life.
*Ideological Goals: Motivated by domestic influences, such as political, religious, social, racial, or environmental beliefs.
*Intent to Intimidate/Coerce: Aims to intimidate or coerce a civilian population or influence government policy.
*Within U.S. Jurisdiction: Occurs primarily within the territorial U.S..
*No Foreign Direction: Crucially, it involves individuals or groups acting without direction from foreign terrorist organizations or nations.
Where to Find It
*U.S. Code: Primarily in 18 U.S.C. § 2331(5).
FBI & DHS: The FBI and Department of Homeland Security (DHS) use these definitions for tracking aYnd investigation.
In Practice
*Acts like racially-motivated violence, anti-government extremism, or attacks driven by radical ideologies (e.g., concerning immigration or gender) can fall under this umbrella if they meet the criteria, notes an Arnold & Porter article.
*While no single federal law creates a standalone crime of "domestic terrorism," various statutes, including hate crime laws, are used to prosecute these acts, according to a Harvard Law Review article.
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Love how we are now trying to equate misguided fat lesbians protecting illegal aliens with Sam Adams and Paul Revere. At least their causes made sense.
I love how being “fat and lesbian” is somehow a disqualifier for who can do noble acts. How do we know Sam Adams wasn’t a slightly pudgy turd burglar?
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Tempo, any thoughts? You don’t strike me as the guy who would repost rage bait without doing some homework first.
https://x.com/antoniotweets2/status/2013653443538227678?s=46
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Tempo, any thoughts? You don’t strike me as the guy who would repost rage bait without doing some homework first.
https://x.com/antoniotweets2/status/2013653443538227678?s=46
It’s good to know we can finally put some value on what a woman has to say.
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Also, where are her sources?
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ICE training was 5-6 months. It’s been lowered to 47 days. Why? To flatter Trump’s ego. #47! Unreal.
https://x.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/2010726291574788405?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Whatever you do, don’t watch this. You might learn something god forbid. No football takes, thankfully.
https://x.com/1zzyzyx1/status/2014017208565776476?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8f95bYp/
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AI
Yes, Minnesota State Representative Leigh Finke (often referred to as Leah or Leigh Finke) did call for more such actions. Following an incident where anti-ICE protesters disrupted a church service at Cities Church in St. Paul (where a local ICE office leader also serves as pastor), Finke posted on Facebook praising the disruption as "nonviolent resistance" that is "essential." She explicitly stated that these actions "must continue" until ICE is removed from the state, the current administration is out of the White House, and broader goals of dignity for immigrants are met. Multiple conservative-leaning outlets (e.g., Alpha News, The Gateway Pundit) reported on this in January 2026, framing it as her encouraging more church-targeted anti-ICE protests. The reports quote her directly from the Facebook post, and the phrasing has been widely shared as a call for escalation of similar disruptions. No mainstream counter-reports appear to dispute the quote or context.
You'd have been a good Brownshirt.
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Love how we are now trying to equate misguided fat lesbians protecting illegal aliens with Sam Adams and Paul Revere. At least their causes made sense.
Not if you were the British
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Not if you were the British
Inconvenient fact
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Inconvenient fact
Bullshit. The British knew exactly what we were trying to do and why: Take their prize cash cow and colonies away from them. These idiots are fighting the government to protect illegals and criminals and their systemic grift on the taxpayers. Fuck em. They’ve turned MPLS (and other blue cities) a dump and if you guys had your way they’d turn the rest of the country into one just like it.
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Bullshit. The British knew exactly what we were trying to do and why: Take their prize cash cow and colonies away from them. These idiots are fighting the government to protect illegals and criminals and their systemic grift on the taxpayers. Fuck em. They’ve turned MPLS (and other blue cities) a dump and if you guys had your way they’d turn the rest of the country into one just like it.
+1
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Bullshit. The British knew exactly what we were trying to do and why: Take their prize cash cow and colonies away from them. These idiots are fighting the government to protect illegals and criminals and their systemic grift on the taxpayers. Fuck em. They’ve turned MPLS (and other blue cities) a dump and if you guys had your way they’d turn the rest of the country into one just like it.
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Sam Adams and Paul Revere broke the law for a political goal.
Blowing whistles, honking horns, and following from a safe distance are not breaking the law.
They oppose poorly trained masked thugs occupying their city.
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Bullshit. The British knew exactly what we were trying to do and why: Take their prize cash cow and colonies away from them.
This statement is incorrect. At the time of the American Revolution, the British West Indies (Caribbean islands like Jamaica, Barbados) were Britain's most economically valuable colonies due to sugar, rum, and molasses, generating more revenue than all mainland North American colonies combined.
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How did King George III view the Americans?
He saw them primarily as:
*Rebels
*Insurgents
*Traitors to the Crown
In his 1775 Proclamation of Rebellion, George III declared that the colonies were in a state of open rebellion and accused colonial leaders of attempting to:
*Undermine lawful government
*Incite disorder
*Wage war against their own sovereign
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You'd have been a good Brownshirt.
In your Donald Trump voice: “The best Brownshirt!”
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Sam Adams and Paul Revere broke the law for a political goal.
Blowing whistles, honking horns, and following from a safe distance are not breaking the law.
They oppose poorly trained masked thugs occupying their city.
Bingo.
The vast majority of these protesters are doing so legally and peacefully.
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Serious question for our ICE fans. Would Jesus be protesting the snatching of people off the street and separating families, or would he be wearing an ICE uniform?
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How did King George III view the Americans?
He saw them primarily as:
*Rebels
*Insurgents
*Traitors to the Crown
In his 1775 Proclamation of Rebellion, George III declared that the colonies were in a state of open rebellion and accused colonial leaders of attempting to:
*Undermine lawful government
*Incite disorder
*Wage war against their own sovereign
So Custard = King George III is a match?
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Sam Adams and Paul Revere broke the law for a political goal.
Blowing whistles, honking horns, and following from a safe distance are not breaking the law.
They oppose poorly trained masked thugs occupying their city.
Knowingly impeding federal law enforcement activity by blocking traffic, ignoring orders, etc is not breaking the law?
Occupying their city my aching ass. Talk about hyperbole.
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This statement is incorrect. At the time of the American Revolution, the British West Indies (Caribbean islands like Jamaica, Barbados) were Britain's most economically valuable colonies due to sugar, rum, and molasses, generating more revenue than all mainland North American colonies combined.
They were a lot further developed than the colonies at that point. There was a whole bunch further west that hadn’t even been tapped into. They fought two wars with us over the colonies because they wanted to get their hands on the Celtics and Patriots dynasties.
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Knowingly impeding federal law enforcement activity by blocking traffic, ignoring orders, etc is not breaking the law?
Occupying their city my aching ass. Talk about hyperbole.
George Wallace in 1965 agreed.
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Knowingly impeding federal law enforcement activity by blocking traffic, ignoring orders, etc is not breaking the law?
Occupying their city my aching ass. Talk about hyperbole.
95% of the protestors are standing on the sidewalks mocking them. That’s not against the law. There are also reasonable limits to how ICE can deal with those who are obstructing. I’d say shooting and killing them might cross a line.
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They were a lot further developed than the colonies at that point. There was a whole bunch further west that hadn’t even been tapped into. They fought two wars with us over the colonies because they wanted to get their hands on the Celtics and Patriots dynasties.
It is fruitless for you to argue against the facts being discussed.
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Anyone comparing these lowlife criminal protecting losers in Minnesota to Americans protesting against Great Britain should have their debate cards summarily revoked. And citizenship revoked!
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Anyone comparing these lowlife criminal protecting losers in Minnesota to Americans protesting against Great Britain should have their debate cards summarily revoked. And citizenship revoked!
Call in the Pinkerton detectives to bust up the union organizers’ meeting calling for an end to child labor!
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95% of the protestors are standing on the sidewalks mocking them. That’s not against the law. There are also reasonable limits to how ICE can deal with those who are obstructing. I’d say shooting and killing them might cross a line.
And the other 5%? We just forget about them I guess?
If enough people obstruct, put themselves in harm’s way and keep forcing everyone’s hand, bad shit is going to happen. Stand on the sidewalk and chant all you want, I doubt you’re hurting anyone’s feelings. Just don’t put the car in drive when you’ve been told to stop and there’s a cop now in front of you.
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Call in the Pinkerton detectives to bust up the union organizers’ meeting calling for an end to child labor!
Sounds good to me, The Pinkertons had a summer home in my hometown. Maybe all the kids these days wouldn’t be so fat if they got some work in instead of playing video games all day.
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They were a lot further developed than the colonies at that point. There was a whole bunch further west that hadn’t even been tapped into. They fought two wars with us over the colonies because they wanted to get their hands on the Celtics and Patriots dynasties.
To set the record straight, the primary causes of the War of 1812 were British interference with American trade (Orders-in-Council), the impressment (forced conscription) of U.S. sailors into the Royal Navy, and American desires for territorial expansion, particularly into Canada, fueled by "War Hawks" who also pointed to British support for Native American resistance on the frontier. These issues, rooted in the larger Napoleonic Wars, challenged U.S. sovereignty and economic interests, leading to a declaration of war against Great Britain. It was not the British desire to retake its former colonies.
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And the other 5%? We just forget about them I guess?
If enough people obstruct, put themselves in harm’s way and keep forcing everyone’s hand, bad shit is going to happen. Stand on the sidewalk and chant all you want, I doubt you’re hurting anyone’s feelings. Just don’t put the car in drive when you’ve been told to stop and there’s a cop now in front of you.
Who said forget about them? Let’s start by not shooting and killing them (and defending that).
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Anyone comparing these lowlife criminal protecting losers in Minnesota to Americans protesting against Great Britain should have their debate cards summarily revoked. And citizenship revoked!
Hitler would have certainly agreed.
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Anyone comparing these lowlife criminal protecting losers in Minnesota to Americans protesting against Great Britain should have their debate cards summarily revoked. And citizenship revoked!
By Mn's alleged definition; the perpetrators of the Boston Tea Party were domestic terrorists
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Bingo.
The vast majority of these protesters are doing so legally and peacefully.
So is the majority of ICE… What’s your point?!
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By Mn's alleged definition; the perpetrators of the Boston Tea Party were domestic terrorists
The cause is the context. One cause is a great cause the other cause is people protecting sick criminals and a pyramid scheme to defraud taxpayers. They got all $69 tempo paid in taxes last year. That has to sting.
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By Mn's alleged definition; the perpetrators of the Boston Tea Party were domestic terrorists
Ask the British and they’d agree they were…
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By Mn's alleged definition; the perpetrators of the Boston Tea Party were domestic terrorists
That’s the actual definition, not alleged. They probably were considered the contemporary term of domestic terrorist to the British, too.
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That’s the actual definition, not alleged. They probably were considered the contemporary term of domestic terrorist to the British, too.
Partial screen shot that was hard to read on a phone..
'...acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;
*********,,
(B) appear to be intended—
(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
(ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or
(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping....
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More here: https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/counterterrorism/fbi-dhs-domestic-terrorism-definitions-terminology-methodology.pdf/view
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The cause is the context. One cause is a great cause the other cause is people protecting sick criminals and a pyramid scheme to defraud taxpayers. They got all $69 tempo paid in taxes last year. That has to sting.
Nobody is intentionally protecting sick criminals, not even Trump apologists.
The vast majority of undocumented immigrants are honest and hard working.
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By Mn's alleged definition; the perpetrators of the Boston Tea Party were domestic terrorists
I don't think that the DHS had a definition of domestic terrorism at the time.
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They're going with this again, I guess.
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So is the majority of ICE… What’s your point?!
The point is fuck fascism.
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Nobody is intentionally protecting sick criminals, not even Trump apologists.
The vast majority of undocumented immigrants are honest and hard working.
The vast majoroty of those being rounded up aren't criminals or fraudsters. Inconvenient facts.
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I don't think that the DHS had a definition of domestic terrorism at the time.
Ha ha.
There weren't any airports either
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Ask the British and they’d agree they were…
agreed
Kristi Norm views people like Renee Good as criminal enemies due to their politics..
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. They probably were considered the contemporary term of domestic terrorist to the British, too.
That's a good point. They were viewed as traitors and enemies. Much the same way the Trump Administration views the protestors.
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Ray views people like Renee Good as someone who disagreed with Noems's politics, apparently tossing obstructing federal law enforcement activities, attempting to evade federal law enforcement activities and allegedly driving a 3500 pound lethal weapon at the federal law enforcement agent aside.
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Ray views people like Renee Good as someone who disagreed with Noems's politics, apparently tossing obstructing federal law enforcement activities, attempting to evade federal law enforcement activities and allegedly driving a 3500 pound lethal weapon at the federal law enforcement agent aside.
Apparently you toss away that ICE is employing dumb shits who don't know best practices for law enforcement.
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Oh here’s your sources for the lady in the video I shared, Tempo…
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2014322865848406370?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Serious question for our ICE fans. Would Jesus be protesting the snatching of people off the street and separating families, or would he be wearing an ICE uniform?
As as I could tell, no one answered this question.
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Oh here’s your sources for the lady in the video I shared, Tempo…
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2014322865848406370?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I have no clue what you’re talking about. Plus, I trust Homeland Security about as much as I trust Trump.
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Even Bill Kristol, one of the most central figures of the neoconservative movement of the Bush years, a guy who believes in fighting multiple wars on multiple fronts and spreading democracy at the point of a gun says "abolish ICE."
For the record, I don't wish to abolish ICE; but I'd like to see it shrunk to the size at which "it can be drowned in a bathtub."
https://x.com/i/status/2012522472063545404
Here’s me saying “abolish ice.” Oh wait, that’s neoconservative Bill Kristol.
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Here’s me saying “abolish ice.” Oh wait, that’s neoconservative Bill Kristol.
He's really popular these days, isn't he?
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As as I could tell, no one answered this question.
Probably because answering stupid false dichotomy questions is pointless?
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He's really popular these days, isn't he?
Not surprised you missed the point.
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Probably because answering stupid false dichotomy questions is pointless?
Translation: “I don’t have a good answer. One that makes me look good, anyway.”
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If you have to struggle to answer that question, I’ll say it. You suck as a “Christian” and totally don’t understand Jesus.
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You want to solve the immigrant problem? Start prosecuting the corporations and people that hire them. That’ll solve it right quick. But that would punish mostly wealthy white people, so that’s not an option.
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Probably because answering stupid false dichotomy questions is pointless?
In case you’re confused on which side Jesus would be on.
https://x.com/sarahspain/status/2014113777164173759?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Ray views people like Renee Good as someone who disagreed with Noems's politics, apparently tossing obstructing federal law enforcement activities, attempting to evade federal law enforcement activities and allegedly driving a 3500 pound lethal weapon at the federal law enforcement agent aside.
I am not sure how you are redefining my views.
Renee Good is dropped her son off at school at 9:00 AM and was shot dead at 9:30 AM while attempting to make a right turn.
It appears she and others might have been briefly protesting ICE activities.
She also may or may not have been guilty refusing to exit her vehicle and attempting to flee. I don't think these 'crimes' rise to the level of domestic terrorism.
I don't know if the agents had probable cause to stop and detain her. I am pretty sure they didn't have a judicial warrant.
My perception is the current White House tends to view political opponents as traitors. They place loyalty to Trump over loyalty to the Constitution and Country.
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Not surprised you missed the point.
The point is his hot takes these days are like the Israelites wandering in the desert for 40 years.
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You want to solve the immigrant problem? Start prosecuting the corporations and people that hire them. That’ll solve it right quick. But that would punish mostly wealthy white people, so that’s not an option.
Would be a start. Throwing corporations in jail for hiring illegals would make a big dent in the problem. Since the corporations are "people."
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Would be a start. Throwing corporations in jail for hiring illegals would make a big dent in the problem. Since the corporations are "people."
Can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not .
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Can’t tell if this is sarcasm or not .
I actually agree with you.
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So is the majority of ICE… What’s your point?!
That's doubtful.
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Oh here’s your sources for the lady in the video I shared, Tempo…
https://x.com/dhsgov/status/2014322865848406370?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
Here is more of the story
Federal officers detain 5-year-old boy who school official says was used as ‘bait’ https://share.google/8NAfp8c6C74IjfcDn
A 5-year-old boy arriving home from preschool in Minnesota was taken by federal agents along with his father to a detention facility in Texas, school officials and the family’s lawyer said, making him the fourth student from his Minneapolis suburb to be detained by immigration officers in recent weeks.
Federal agents took Liam Conejo Ramos from a running car while it was in the family’s driveway on Tuesday afternoon, Columbia Heights Public Schools Superintendent Zena Stenvik said during a news conference Wednesday. The officers then told him to knock on the door to his home to see if other people were inside, “essentially using a 5-year-old as bait,” she said.
Stenvik said the family has an active asylum case and has not been ordered to leave the country.
More at the link
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Here is more of the story
Federal officers detain 5-year-old boy who school official says was used as ‘bait’ https://share.google/8NAfp8c6C74IjfcDn
Stenvik said the family has an active asylum case and has not been ordered to leave the country.
More at the link
Stenvik said another adult who lives at the home was outside when the father and son were taken, but agents wouldn’t leave Liam with that person. DHS didn’t immediately respond to an email Thursday asking if Conejo Arias had asked to keep his son with him.
Liam and his father were being held in a family holding cell in Texas, Marc Prokosch, the family’s lawyer, said during the news conference.
“Every step of their immigration process has been doing what they’ve been asked to do,” Prokosch said of the family’s asylum claim. “So this is just cruelty.”
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The Columbia Heights Public Schools Superintendent is telling the AP what happened in a driveway where she wasn't present ?
And she received her information from who ? The lawyer ?
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The Columbia Heights Public Schools Superintendent is telling the AP what happened in a driveway where she wasn't present ?
And she received her information from who ? The lawyer ?
DHS had been caught lying, so we should trust them?
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I am not sure how you are redefining my views.
Renee Good is dropped her son off at school at 9:00 AM and was shot dead at 9:30 AM while attempting to make a right turn.
It appears she and others might have been briefly protesting ICE activities.
She also may or may not have been guilty refusing to exit her vehicle and attempting to flee. I don't think these 'crimes' rise to the level of domestic terrorism.
I don't know if the agents had probable cause to stop and detain her. I am pretty sure they didn't have a judicial warrant.
My perception is the current White House tends to view political opponents as traitors. They place loyalty to Trump over loyalty to the Constitution and Country.
Nice story, but after the dropping the kid off at school part I'm not sure you got much right.
My perception is the Biden White House tended to view political opponents as traitors. They placed loyalty to the Democrat party over loyalty to the Constitution and Country.
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DHS had been caught lying, so we should trust them?
Mayorkas is no longer at DHS.
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Based on recent reports, court rulings, and congressional inquiries, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and its agencies, particularly Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and Customs and Border Protection (CBP), have been accused of spreading misinformation and making false claims, particularly regarding immigration operations and interactions with protestors.
Here are specific examples of alleged lies and misinformation from DHS:
Here are specific examples of alleged lies and misinformation from DHS:
*Fabricated Evidence in "Operation Midway Blitz": In late 2025, a federal judge in Chicago issued a 233-page ruling finding that DHS and Border Patrol officials "repeatedly misled the public" and provided "false or evasive testimony" regarding their actions, including using video with incorrect dates and locations to misrepresent peaceful protests as violent.
*False Claims About Assaults on Agents: DHS falsely claimed a "1,000% rise in assaults against ICE agents," a claim later debunked by data. In another instance, DHS officials claimed protesters threw fireworks at agents, but surveillance, aerial, and body camera footage indicated the explosions were actually flashbang grenades thrown by federal agents.
*Misinformation Regarding Detained U.S. Citizens: DHS has faced accusations of detaining U.S. citizens and lying about the circumstances. For example, a DHS spokesperson claimed a detained individual had "no legal right to be in the United States," which was false, as the individual was a lawful employee. In another case, agents falsely claimed a 13-year-old boy in custody was in possession of a gun and knife.
*Falsehoods Surrounding High-Profile Incidents: DHS falsely accused a mother who had a stillbirth while in ICE custody of homicide. They also falsely claimed a detained journalist was arrested for obstructing traffic, when he was in fact being targeted for his work.
*Misleading Information on Enforcement Actions: During "Operation Midway Blitz," DHS falsely claimed they were not targeting U.S. citizens, despite evidence of lawful residents and citizens being detained. They also claimed that allegations of racial profiling by agents were "disgusting" and "false," while reports indicated agents were using unlawful, broad, and sometimes violent tactics.
*Fabricated Narratives on Social Media: DHS has been criticized for using social media, such as X (formerly Twitter), to push misleading narratives, including using doctored videos or incorrect, out-of-context footage to justify enforcement actions.
Note: The Department of Homeland Security frequently disputes these allegations, often posting their own "fact checks" on their website and social media channels to argue that reports from the media and activists are false.
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If you have to struggle to answer that question, I’ll say it. You suck as a “Christian” and totally don’t understand Jesus.
Your question sucks. It is a false dichotomy which is a disingenuous way to have a conversation about something. So no I’m not going to dignify it with an answer.
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The dude who is alleged to have offered money to hit Bovino wasn't a gang member as alleged initially. The judge at the trial said the prosecution couldn't bring it up since they had no evidence to support the claim made to the press or on The Twotter.
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My perception is the Biden White House tended to view political opponents as traitors. They placed loyalty to the Democrat party over loyalty to the Constitution and Country.
Plagiarism much?
I recall when Biden ordered federal prosecutors to pursue his political opponents and fired them if they declined.
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They whipped the migrants.
The border is under control.
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AI Overview
Based on reports from 2025 and early 2026, Tricia McLaughlin, while serving as Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), has faced multiple allegations of spreading false information regarding Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operations.
Key allegations regarding false statements include:
-Body-Slamming" Claim: McLaughlin was accused of falsely claiming in May 2025 that Democratic members of Congress "body-slammed" ICE agents, a statement contradicted by video evidence.
-Misrepresenting Arrest Footage: She was accused of identifying video of a 2025 arrest of a teenage girl by new DHS ERO officers as old Chicago Police Department footage.
-Smearing Detainees: Reports allege she falsely identified a woman who suffered a miscarriage in detention as a "wanted killer".
False Claims on Arrested Individuals: She has been accused of misrepresenting the criminal history of individuals detained by ICE.
-Defending Questionable Use of Force: In early 2026, she was accused of "victim-blaming" and spreading inaccuracies regarding an ICE agent shooting in Minneapolis.
Conversely, DHS statements during this period have framed these accusations as "disgusting smears" by the media and politicians, asserting that McLaughlin and the Department are "setting the record straight" against false narratives.
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AI Overview
Based on reports from 2025 and early 2026, Tricia McLaughlin, while serving as Assistant Secretary for Public Affairs at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS), has faced multiple allegations of spreading false information regarding Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) operations.
Key allegations regarding false statements include:
-Body-Slamming" Claim: McLaughlin was accused of falsely claiming in May 2025 that Democratic members of Congress "body-slammed" ICE agents, a statement contradicted by video evidence.
-Misrepresenting Arrest Footage: She was accused of identifying video of a 2025 arrest of a teenage girl by new DHS ERO officers as old Chicago Police Department footage.
-Smearing Detainees: Reports allege she falsely identified a woman who suffered a miscarriage in detention as a "wanted killer".
False Claims on Arrested Individuals: She has been accused of misrepresenting the criminal history of individuals detained by ICE.
-Defending Questionable Use of Force: In early 2026, she was accused of "victim-blaming" and spreading inaccuracies regarding an ICE agent shooting in Minneapolis.
Conversely, DHS statements during this period have framed these accusations as "disgusting smears" by the media and politicians, asserting that McLaughlin and the Department are "setting the record straight" against false narratives.
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They whipped the migrants.
The border is under control.
Trump's tactics have definitely been effective so far. About 2.2 million self deportations, another 700,000 removed by DHS. Illegal border crossings down 95%.
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Your question sucks. It is a false dichotomy which is a disingenuous way to have a conversation about something. So no I’m not going to dignify it with an answer.
It is not. It’s a simple question, with a simple answer.
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And another lost case for the once mighty and respected DOJ. Clown shoes.
https://news.wttw.com/2026/01/22/chicago-man-acquitted-murder-hire-charge-plot-allegedly-targeting-border-patrol-chief
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Ray views people like Renee Good as someone who disagreed with Noems's politics, apparently tossing obstructing federal law enforcement activities, attempting to evade federal law enforcement activities and allegedly driving a 3500 pound lethal weapon at the federal law enforcement agent aside.
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Turning Mn's schtick against him! Well done, Nichi! Well done!
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He's really popular these days, isn't he?
Thoughtful, intelligent, rational conservatives aren't in style these days. The belligerent wannabe alpha male types are trending
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Your question sucks. It is a false dichotomy which is a disingenuous way to have a conversation about something. So no I’m not going to dignify it with an answer.
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Have to say that is a good meme Tempo
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Have to say that is a good meme Tempo
Best one since the JFC meme probably. It’s like Jesus is a cheat code.
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Mn, Custard, and Judy love this shit.
https://x.com/nathantbernard/status/2014717658323665399?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Mn, Custard, and Judy love this shit.
https://x.com/nathantbernard/status/2014717658323665399?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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ICE making lists of those who film them. Guess who’s coming to dinner?
https://x.com/karen4the6th/status/2014830798914957667?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Thoughtful, intelligent, rational conservatives aren't in style these days. The belligerent wannabe alpha male types are trending
And why do you think that is?
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Seeing reports that the FBI agent who was in charge of the investigation abruptly resigned. Shocker.
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Famous conservative talking head listing some of the great aspects of being detained by the government.
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https://x.com/darrigomelanie/status/2014868148269285527?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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And why do you think that is?
An oversimplified answer:
1. biology
2. lack of religious education / spiritual development
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An oversimplified answer:
1. biology
2. lack of religious education / spiritual development
Interesting.
I’d argue that it’s a direct response to years of anti-male rhetoric from the other side of the aisle. Gen Z is the most conservative male generation in a long time. What we are seeing is backlash.
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Interesting.
I’d argue that it’s a direct response to years of anti-male rhetoric from the other side of the aisle. Gen Z is the most conservative male generation in a long time. What we are seeing is backlash.
That contributed.
The Internet
Backlash against the metro-sexual male?
professional wrestling role models
Reagan conservatism was kinder and gentler than Trump conservativism. Men were not just men, they were also cultured gentlemen.. Reagan was masculine but also charming and generous with an ironic sense of humor.
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That's not what the ABC reporter said or what the man, who did mention his white privilege and disagreement with ICE activity, said about his Jan 13 detainment.
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Interesting.
I’d argue that it’s a direct response to years of anti-male rhetoric from the other side of the aisle. Gen Z is the most conservative male generation in a long time. What we are seeing is backlash.
No one has it harder than a
White Christian male.
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Gen Z is the most conservative male generation in a long time. What we are seeing is backlash.
You sure? AI seems to disagree with you a bit. Where did you get your info? www.novaxmorereadmeat.com?
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Seeing reports that the FBI agent who was in charge of the investigation abruptly resigned. Shocker.
It would be conceivable that Ross, and the other officers present, were interviewed by the FBI.
The FBI presented the interviews and the videos to the Civil Rights Division.
The FBI likely had access to the driver's phone and her partner's phones at this point.
The Civil Rights Division determines, based on the interviews, the videos and the phones, that the officer acted in self-defense, and made the decision that there was no predicate for continuing the investigation into Ross.
An FBI agent then wishing to pursue the investigation, with no authorization from leadership, then would be in a situation where the agent abides by the determination. Or the agent resigns.
And if any new information arises, the investigation may be re-opened.
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And I will concede there definitely seems to be at least a shit (oops shift) in some polling (and 18-24 year old men leaned Trump in the election), but I’m not convinced your “most conservative male generation in some time” claim is accurate.
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I hope Agent Ross is out of the hospital by now.
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https://x.com/nortonmpls/status/2014878293556662740?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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ICE shoots man in Minneapolis. Good thing he fired 4 or 5 more shots into his motionless body.
https://x.com/mollyploofkins/status/2015091408013557993?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Mn, Custard, and Judy gleefully voted for this.
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Mn, Custard, and Judy gleefully voted for this.
I did not vote for Frey or Walz, gleefully.
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Shocking.
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Mn doesn’t bother addressing the ICE shooting. Also shocking.
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We have an issue now that people have lost the plot on the principle of physics and reality.
This guy can talk this smack, and say "haha, it's on your permanent record".
The US has had a huge number of situations where wack jobs have shot up schools or workplaces. Plenty of wack jobs out there. It would not be rational for some wack job to just go wipe out 20-30 ICE agents, but it would not surprise me one bit. And that wack job would probably die, but 20-30 of this smack talking ICE agent's buddies would be dead too, along with thousands if not many more random Americans.
Somehow the Mn's of the world seem to think "OK, this is the world we live in. And we can just surgically remove some small sliver we don't like and have the same world without that sliver. No transgender people and no bad immigrants". But that process is impossible. All you end up doing is crashing the world we live in, which is pretty goddamn comfortable. And the old folks home that is the population of this board will not fare well should that happen. Nor frankly, will the billionaires - their dollars will be worthless, their companies will be worthless, and their bunkers will be worthless. Because they'll be dead within weeks.
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I mean shit - to quote the Bard David Lee Roth - "This will go down... on your PERMANENT RECORD"
Turns out there is no such thing.
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Mn, Custard, and Judy PROUDLY voted for this: Man tries to shield woman shoved to the ground by ICE, they mace him, attack him (6 or 7 agents?), shoot him dead; firing 5-6 shots at his motionless body. You guys should be very proud. We finally get the lady in the pink coat’s video.
https://x.com/ryangrim/status/2015132217878384791?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Mn, Custard, and Judy PROUDLY voted for this: Man tries to shield woman shoved to the ground by ICE, they mace him, attack him (6 or 7 agents?), shoot him dead; firing 5-6 shots at his motionless body. You guys should be very proud. We finally get the lady in the pink coat’s video.
https://x.com/ryangrim/status/2015132217878384791?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
It’s so hard to determine which side Jesus would be on, ya’ll! Such a disingenuous question!
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ICE agents taking phones after they shoot a man dead in the street. “This isn’t fascism, ya’ll! Stop being dramatic!”
https://x.com/ademkisho/status/2015143369131827571?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Not surprisingly, Judy says this guy FAFOd.
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And I will concede there definitely seems to be at least a shit (oops shift) in some polling (and 18-24 year old men leaned Trump in the election), but I’m not convinced your “most conservative male generation in some time” claim is accurate.
What about your 80% claim, Tempo?! Not sure that’s accurate… LOL
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An FBI agent then wishing to pursue the investigation, with no authorization from leadership, then would be in a situation where the agent abides by the determination. Or the agent resigns.
And if any new information arises, the investigation may be re-opened.
The only new information that re-opens the investigation is "Democratic Blue Wave, take Congress and Senate"
Good and this Pritti guy being shot is a feature, not a bug.
Dumbass morons like Trump and Miller and Noem hire the dumbest fucks you knew from high school, guys who were big and tough but got their QB sacked over and over because they were too stupid to learn the blocking assignments, those are the guys hired by ICE. This shooting this morning is completely fucking brutal. Dude was on his knees on the ground, and an agent who wasn't in the pile just pulled his gun, maneuvered to find a clean shot, and ripped off 5 rounds.
Only a completely stupid fuckhead would be capable of that. Go ahead, give me a forensic analysis of the way the dude on the ground was pointing his wheeels. You dumbass.
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What about your 80% claim, Tempo?! Not sure that’s accurate… LOL
A little high I’m sure, but it’s a strong majority. The only countries that like Trump are the far-right wing countries mostly in Eastern Europe and a couple in S. America.
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The only new information that re-opens the investigation is "Democratic Blue Wave, take Congress and Senate"
Good and this Pritti guy being shot is a feature, not a bug.
Dumbass morons like Trump and Miller and Noem hire the dumbest fucks you knew from high school, guys who were big and tough but got their QB sacked over and over because they were too stupid to learn the blocking assignments, those are the guys hired by ICE. This shooting this morning is completely fucking brutal. Dude was on his knees on the ground, and an agent who wasn't in the pile just pulled his gun, maneuvered to find a clean shot, and ripped off 5 rounds.
Only a completely stupid fuckhead would be capable of that. Go ahead, give me a forensic analysis of the way the dude on the ground was pointing his wheeels. You dumbass.
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And I will concede there definitely seems to be at least a shit (oops shift) in some polling (and 18-24 year old men leaned Trump in the election), but I’m not convinced your “most conservative male generation in some time” claim is accurate.
It’s widely accepted that this is the most conservative male generation in a while. You asked AI about Gen Z in general. Ask it about Gen Z males.
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I mean shit - to quote the Bard David Lee Roth - "This will go down... on your PERMANENT RECORD"
Turns out there is no such thing.
That was The Violent Femmes from Kiss Off.
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It’s widely accepted that this is the most conservative male generation in a while. You asked AI about Gen Z in general. Ask it about Gen Z males.
Got any polling or articles?
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So ICE empties a pistol into a guy doing nothing but shielding a woman and no one even thinks it's discussion worthy. I guess the administration's plan is working perfectly.
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Another view. How the fuck you can defend this shit is beyond me. This is straight up murder.
https://x.com/rebeinstein/status/2015206507043074129?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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This is moments before he’s killed. He’s literally balled up with his hands together (not a threat or acting like one). 5 seconds later he’s murdered.
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That was The Violent Femmes from Kiss Off.
I appreciate PAMan's very important clarification! I may have to turn in my tickets to next months Violent Femmes show in shame!
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A little high I’m sure, but it’s a strong majority. The only countries that like Trump are the far-right wing countries mostly in Eastern Europe and a couple in S. America.
Again, that’s just your opinion dude…
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Again, that’s just your opinion dude…
It most definitely is not. They actually do polling on this shit, dude…
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It most definitely is not. They actually do polling on this shit, dude…
Show your work…
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Again, that’s just your opinion dude…
This is all the way back in June. After Davos, Greenland, and what’s happening with ICE it’s only going to get worse. 62% (or more) of the world has little or no confidence in Trump. And that includes allies of 100+ years.
The only countries that like Trump are heavily right-wing themselves.
https://www.pewresearch.org/global/2025/06/11/us-image-declines-in-many-nations-amid-low-confidence-in-trump/
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Again, that’s just your opinion dude…
This is among allies. 19 out of 24 countries have little to no confidence in Donald Trump. If you need me to math it for you, that’s about 80%. It’s only going to get worse after the last 10 days.
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Show your work…
I just fucking did. If you actually followed the news instead of propaganda and talking points you’d already know this.
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Someone I was close with when I lived in the city wrote this. She’s spot on. No football takes.
The same people who called Kyle Rittenhouse a hero are now asking, “Why did the victim have a gun?”
The same people who scream “Don’t tread on me” are perfectly fine watching constitutional rights get trampled.
The same so-called pro-life crowd is laughing while pregnant women bleed out on ICE detention floors, denied lifesaving care.
History is watching. And when this chapter ends, you will be held accountable, not just by me, but by the truth. You will have to look your children in the eyes and explain why you stood on the side of cruelty and evil.
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I mean, how can you watch this and think ICE acted appropriately here? You have to have one twisted fucking mind.
https://x.com/magacult2/status/2015234082272358627?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Again, that’s just your opinion dude…
Germany is considering boycotting The World Cup because they no longer consider the U.S. a safe place. This would be like Jack Nicklaus or Tiger Woods sitting out The Masters in their prime.
https://x.com/spencerhakimian/status/2015239322677489884?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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ICE is operating in all 50 states in all major cities. Why is it the only shootings are in Minneapolis? Whats the difference? 🤔
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ICE is operating in all 50 states in all major cities. Why is it the only shootings are in Minneapolis? Whats the difference? 🤔
C'mon man.
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ICE is operating in all 50 states in all major cities. Why is it the only shootings are in Minneapolis? Whats the difference? 🤔
AI Overview
As of January 2026, approximately 2,000 to 3,000 federal immigration personnel, including ICE agents and Customs and Border Protection officers, have been deployed to the Minneapolis area for a major enforcement operation. This surge, part of a federal crackdown, reportedly dwarfs local police numbers and is considered one of the largest immigration operations.
Key details regarding the ICE presence in Minnesota:
-Total Personnel: Sources indicate a total of around 3,000 federal immigration agents and officers in Minnesota, which includes about 2,000 specifically from ICE.
-Context: This deployment, often linked to Operation Metro Surge" and investigations into fraud, has led to increased, highly controversial enforcement activity in the Twin Cities.
-Impact: Local leaders have described the, often armed, federal presence as "disproportionate," with numbers comparable to five times the staffing of the Minneapolis Police Department.
-Surge Components: The force includes ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).
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AI Overview
As of January 2026, approximately 2,000 to 3,000 federal immigration personnel, including ICE agents and Customs and Border Protection officers, have been deployed to the Minneapolis area for a major enforcement operation. This surge, part of a federal crackdown, reportedly dwarfs local police numbers and is considered one of the largest immigration operations.
Key details regarding the ICE presence in Minnesota:
-Total Personnel: Sources indicate a total of around 3,000 federal immigration agents and officers in Minnesota, which includes about 2,000 specifically from ICE.
-Context: This deployment, often linked to Operation Metro Surge" and investigations into fraud, has led to increased, highly controversial enforcement activity in the Twin Cities.
-Impact: Local leaders have described the, often armed, federal presence as "disproportionate," with numbers comparable to five times the staffing of the Minneapolis Police Department.
-Surge Components: The force includes ICE's Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) and Homeland Security Investigations (HSI).
That’s probably because it’s a sanctuary state and they are harboring tons of illegal criminals. Also look at all the fraud. Sounds like a great state!
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C'mon man.
What 🤷🏻♂️
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Gutfeld is right…
https://x.com/greggutfeld/status/2015225469596324325?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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History is watching. And when this chapter ends, you will be held accountable, not just by me, but by the truth. You will have to look your children in the eyes and explain why you stood on the side of cruelty and evil.
The irony of the religious right really banking on Heaven and Hell being a fiction.
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Germany is considering boycotting The World Cup because they no longer consider the U.S. a safe place. This would be like Jack Nicklaus or Tiger Woods sitting out The Masters in their prime.
https://x.com/spencerhakimian/status/2015239322677489884?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
I would completely approve of this. It would be so fucking awesome if a bunch of countries just said "fuck you". The US and a lot of American companies would be out billions of dollars. What the fuck is FIFA gonna do? They are a huge corrupt profit center. They gonna ban Germany, England, France, and Spain from future competitions? Fuck that. The individual federations could put on a separate cup in no time.
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This is a good article. Mn should internalize it
You can argue all you want about wheels being pointed one way or Pretti’s gun - but the pattern has emerged and the videos are there where the populace no longer cares what the Government has to say. They believe these were murders and Noem claiming otherwise means that they will disconnect from Governance itself - distrust in the Government means that Government ceases to exist.
We are in for some freaky times
https://www.thelongmemo.com/p/we-are-past-the-one-trigger-moment?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web
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Sounds like a great state!
It has been, until a couple of people got elected.
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Gutfeld is right…
https://x.com/greggutfeld/status/2015225469596324325?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
He’s right about as often as he is funny. So not very often.
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Mn, what’s your opinion on Pretti’s killing. Did he “fuck around and find out?” Custard?
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Conservative logic 101:
Kyle Rittenhouse took a gun to a protest and used it kill two people and maim another. He left a hero to those condemning Alex Pretti.
Alex Pretti took a perfectly lawful sidearm to a protest and got murdered despite never drawing his weapon. He left dead and a villain to those praising Kyle Rittenhouse.
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He’s right about as often as he is funny. So not very often.
Must be why he’s got a #1 show…
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Must be why he’s got a #1 show…
On Fox? So did O’Reilly.
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The lies and distortion told by “Homeland Security” are just brazen and false. If you buy this you are a full on MAGA cultist.
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On Fox? So did O’Reilly.
What’s that have to do with anything? Are you accusing Greg Gutfeld of something like what O’Reilly did?! Otherwise, what’s your point?! He actually has the highest ratings in ALL of late-night television. Even over your boy Jimmy Kimmel…
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Noem also said Pretti “brandished” a weapon. That lying cunt needs a dictionary (actually she doesn’t, she knows she’s lying).
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What’s that have to do with anything? Are you accusing Greg Gutfeld of something like what O’Reilly did?! Otherwise, what’s your point?! He actually has the highest ratings in ALL of late-night television. Even over your boy Jimmy Kimmel…
Because Fox is the go-to on TV for right-wing propaganda. Captive audience.
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Because Fox is the go-to on TV for right-wing propaganda. Captive audience.
So America watches it more. And more people prefer it. Trump was elected. Why do you hate democracy?! The people have spoken…
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Video of Pretti’s murder with Noem’s “explanation of what happened” overlayed. Laughable how much this bitch is lying.
https://x.com/jaketapper/status/2015256185566593274?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Lying piece of fascist shit. Anyone here agree with Miller? Custard? Judy? Mn?
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Lying piece of fascist shit. Anyone here agree with Miller? Custard? Judy? Mn?
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No, I don’t agree with that. I also don’t agree that ICE cold-bloodedly murder him either. It was an unfortunate outcome that could’ve been avoided. He absolutely escalated the situation and resisted when he inserted himself into the equation…
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He did not “escalate” the situation. He merely stepped between the woman and ICE. Then they maced him and jumped him. He didn’t even go on the offensive when they maced him. He was purely defensive.
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Saying he “escalated” the situation is absolute lunacy.
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And he didn’t “resist.” He was on his knees with his hands folded. He didn’t lay a hand on anyone. He was purely defensive. Which after being maced attacked by six men is understandable.
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Must be why he’s got a #1 show…
Only old senile fucks watch TV anymore so...
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Lying piece of fascist shit. Anyone here agree with Miller? Custard? Judy? Mn?
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Either
1) Pretti did not want to murder Federal Agents or
2) Pretti was the dumbest murderer of all time
If he wanted to off some ICE agents, he had plenty of opporuntity. Yet it didn't happen
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The only thing he did that was even remotely confrontational was step between the ice agent and the woman he needlessly shoved to the ground. And that’s giving ICE every the benefit of the doubt. Pretti was not threatening to anyone. The ICE agent was annoyed Pretti was there, that’s it.
Veterans speak out:
https://x.com/saveamericamvm/status/2015508443122065646?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Only old senile fucks watch TV anymore so...
I resemble that remark
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Mn, what’s your opinion on Pretti’s killing. Did he “fuck around and find out?” Custard?
I’ve had better things to do this weekend than dive into this but maybe tomorrow
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https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2015264599193366671?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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He merely stepped between the woman and ICE agent
What’s that called 🤔
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If the ICE guys that shot Pretti are not investigated - let alone charged and convicted of what the public can all judge for themselves with copious video evidence, then the credibility of any form of justice in this country is gone.
At that point, nobody is safe. Good luck to us all. Well played Donald. We aren't Afghanistan, because we have more citizens who will revolt. I just don't know what the post mortem could possibly be.
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What’s that called 🤔
Protecting a woman.
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What’s that called 🤔
Doing what’s right?
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What’s that called
You think the ICE agent needed to push her down again?
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You’ve given three answers and none of them are correct. BUT you know this. You just can’t say the correct answer because your narrative would fall apart…
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If the ICE guys that shot Pretti are not investigated - let alone charged and convicted of what the public can all judge for themselves with copious video evidence, then the credibility of any form of justice in this country is gone.
At that point, nobody is safe. Good luck to us all. Well played Donald. We aren't Afghanistan, because we have more citizens who will revolt. I just don't know what the post mortem could possibly be.
Agreed. Alex Pretti did absolutely nothing wrong. The only thing he’s guilty of is exercising his constitutional rights.
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Kash Patel. Complete hypocrite.
https://x.com/briantylercohen/status/2015529683081969957?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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This is just pathetic. It’s verbatim the same speech.
https://x.com/eastendjoe/status/2015568677488246875?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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The backtrack
https://x.com/sarahlongwell25/status/2015529745723630037?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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I’ve had better things to do this weekend than dive into this but maybe tomorrow
Find better things to do today too.
In the mean time if somebody tells you not to do anything stupid, don't strap on a 9mm pistol with its optics and a loaded 20 round magazine. And don't be bringing a 2nd magazine with you either when you walk out the door.
And don't go to a federal law enforcement operation, find a couple of women to cooperate, and go play traffic cop while they engage with federal agents. The target of the operation might just get away and still be out on the streets.
You, and the women, might get shoved out of the way by federal law enforcement agents.
And don't resist. Keep telling yourself 'don't do something stupid. Don't do something, stupid.'
Meanwhile, have a good day today.
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In other words, the revolutionaries have the backing of the Minneapolis police chief. .
https://x.com/i/status/2015458568347037723
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Find better things to do today too.
In the mean time if somebody tells you not to do anything stupid, don't strap on a 9mm pistol with its optics and a loaded 20 round magazine. And don't be bringing a 2nd magazine with you either when you walk out the door.
And don't go to a federal law enforcement operation, find a couple of women to cooperate, and go play traffic cop while they engage with federal agents. The target of the operation might just get away and still be out on the streets.
You, and the women, might get shoved out of the way by federal law enforcement agents.
And don't resist. Keep telling yourself 'don't do something stupid. Don't do something, stupid.'
Meanwhile, have a good day today.
We told that to Kyle Rittenhouse and you told us to fuck off.
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Liberal self deporting because we are enforcing immigration law learn that other nations have immigration laws 😂 I hope all these people leave the US. The plan is working!
https://x.com/thevictoria76/status/2015286012709396873?s=46
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Find better things to do today too.
In the mean time if somebody tells you not to do anything stupid, don't strap on a 9mm pistol with its optics and a loaded 20 round magazine. And don't be bringing a 2nd magazine with you either when you walk out the door.
And don't go to a federal law enforcement operation, find a couple of women to cooperate, and go play traffic cop while they engage with federal agents. The target of the operation might just get away and still be out on the streets.
You, and the women, might get shoved out of the way by federal law enforcement agents.
And don't resist. Keep telling yourself 'don't do something stupid. Don't do something, stupid.'
Meanwhile, have a good day today.
Yep we got a bunch of snow, went sledding yesterday and made a huge chicken pot pie, watched football and played some Mario Kart. I smoked a brisket overnight, will go sledding again today since the kids are out of school at least until Wednesday.
It’s amusing watching people attempt to drive in the snow around here, Ms Custard got her Highlander AWD stuck in the cul de sac, turns out “snow mode” sucks in deep snow and required 4HI with the traction control off. Got it out to the main road that was plowed and walked all the way back to the house. 😬 We took the solo stove with us to the sledding area at the nearby golf course, it’s usually busy when it snows and it was yesterday. Got a big fire going and passed out some hot buttered rum for the adults and hot chocolate for the kids.
Ms Custard was cold so I sent her in my Jeep to get more firewood, had it in 4WD and she couldn’t figure out how to drive it in the snow either 😂 These people are used to driving on some slick stuff every now and again which snow mode and a light foot is helpful for but when it’s deep you need some throttle!
Think some brisket chili sounds pretty good for dinner…
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Yep we got a bunch of snow, went sledding yesterday and made a huge chicken pot pie, watched football and played some Mario Kart. I smoked a brisket overnight, will go sledding again today since the kids are out of school at least until Wednesday.
It’s amusing watching people attempt to drive in the snow around here, Ms Custard got her Highlander AWD stuck in the cul de sac, turns out “snow mode” sucks in deep snow and required 4HI with the traction control off. Got it out to the main road that was plowed and walked all the way back to the house. 😬 We took the solo stove with us to the sledding area at the nearby golf course, it’s usually busy when it snows and it was yesterday. Got a big fire going and passed out some hot buttered rum for the adults and hot chocolate for the kids.
Ms Custard was cold so I sent her in my Jeep to get more firewood, had it in 4WD and she couldn’t figure out how to drive it in the snow either 😂 These people are used to driving on some slick stuff every now and again which snow mode and a light foot is helpful for but when it’s deep you need some throttle!
Think some brisket chili sounds pretty good for dinner…
Good work !! It sounds like things you have things under control. 👏👏👏
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.@MarkHertling on ICE: "They are an undisciplined militia and the leadership is awful...This is not policing and it's not military service. It's something dangerously undefined."
https://x.com/bulwarkonline/status/2015806481317191934?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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“It’s totally not fascism, guys! Stop being ridiculous!”
https://x.com/jayinkyiv/status/2015702280700330145?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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This isn’t some rage bait liberal talking head. This is Trump’s former Secretary of Defense.
Remember during the first Trump clown show when he asked SecDef Mark Esper if they could “just shoot” peaceful protesters?
https://x.com/lqlana/status/2015516670966546542?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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So we now have a “secret police.”
https://x.com/david_j_bier/status/2015781359831200019?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Protesting with guns. No one murdered.
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Don't post AI images.
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Yep we got a bunch of snow, went sledding yesterday and made a huge chicken pot pie, watched football and played some Mario Kart. I smoked a brisket overnight, will go sledding again today since the kids are out of school at least until Wednesday.
It’s amusing watching people attempt to drive in the snow around here, Ms Custard got her Highlander AWD stuck in the cul de sac, turns out “snow mode” sucks in deep snow and required 4HI with the traction control off. Got it out to the main road that was plowed and walked all the way back to the house. 😬 We took the solo stove with us to the sledding area at the nearby golf course, it’s usually busy when it snows and it was yesterday. Got a big fire going and passed out some hot buttered rum for the adults and hot chocolate for the kids.
Ms Custard was cold so I sent her in my Jeep to get more firewood, had it in 4WD and she couldn’t figure out how to drive it in the snow either 😂 These people are used to driving on some slick stuff every now and again which snow mode and a light foot is helpful for but when it’s deep you need some throttle!
Think some brisket chili sounds pretty good for dinner…
The Shelby County Tn Sheriff has words. :D :D
https://x.com/i/status/2015517511161123212
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The Shelby County Tn Sheriff has words. :D :D
https://x.com/i/status/2015517511161123212
Rear wheel drive not fully equipped 😂 those things will get stuck on a banana peel. Fun fact I used to have that exact same truck that pulled the sheriff out!
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Don't post AI images.
Argue with Grok
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In other words, the revolutionaries have the backing of the Minneapolis police chief. .
https://x.com/i/status/2015458568347037723
Yeah right
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Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara made this statement during an interview on CBS's "Face the Nation" on January 25, 2026.
The quote was given in response to questions regarding the recent fatal shooting of Alex Jeffrey Pretti by a federal Border Patrol agent during an immigration crackdown in Minneapolis. This incident was the third shooting involving federal agents in the city in less than three weeks, following the earlier death of Renee Good on January 7, 2026.
According to the official transcript, Chief O'Hara's full statement was:
"So I think, very obviously, there are serious questions that are being raised. And I think the greater issue is, even if there is an investigation that ultimately proves that, at the time of the shooting, it was legally justified, I don't think that even matters at this point, because there just – there is so much outrage and concern around what is happening in the city".
Key Context from the Interview:
*Sustainability of Operations: Chief O'Hara emphasized that his department of roughly 600 officers is "stretched incredibly thin" and that managing the "chaos" resulting from federal operations is "not sustainable".
*Lack of De-escalation: He criticized federal agencies for a lack of de-escalation, noting that while his own department recovered 900 guns last year without shooting anyone, federal agents had been involved in three shootings in three weeks.
*Victim Background: Chief O'Hara stated that Pretti was believed to be a "lawful gun owner" with a permit to carry and no criminal record beyond traffic tickets.
*Call for Reform: He urged federal agencies to operate with the "same discipline, humanity, and integrity" required of local law enforcement.
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Yeah right
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Minneapolis Police Chief Brian O'Hara made this statement during an interview on CBS's "Face the Nation" on January 25, 2026.
The quote was given in response to questions regarding the recent fatal shooting of Alex Jeffrey Pretti by a federal Border Patrol agent during an immigration crackdown in Minneapolis. This incident was the third shooting involving federal agents in the city in less than three weeks, following the earlier death of Renee Good on January 7, 2026.
According to the official transcript, Chief O'Hara's full statement was:
"So I think, very obviously, there are serious questions that are being raised. And I think the greater issue is, even if there is an investigation that ultimately proves that, at the time of the shooting, it was legally justified, I don't think that even matters at this point, because there just – there is so much outrage and concern around what is happening in the city".
Key Context from the Interview:
*Sustainability of Operations: Chief O'Hara emphasized that his department of roughly 600 officers is "stretched incredibly thin" and that managing the "chaos" resulting from federal operations is "not sustainable".
*Lack of De-escalation: He criticized federal agencies for a lack of de-escalation, noting that while his own department recovered 900 guns last year without shooting anyone, federal agents had been involved in three shootings in three weeks.
*Victim Background: Chief O'Hara stated that Pretti was believed to be a "lawful gun owner" with a permit to carry and no criminal record beyond traffic tickets.
*Call for Reform: He urged federal agencies to operate with the "same discipline, humanity, and integrity" required of local law enforcement.
Thanks. As I said.
"In other words, the revolutionaries have the backing of the Minneapolis police chief."
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I love revolutionaries. There’s nothing more American than a revolutionary.
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I love revolutionaries. There’s nothing more American than a revolutionary.
Just as long as it fits your beliefs and narrative…
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Just as long as it fits your beliefs and narrative…
Jan 6 was an inside job by Pelosi.
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South Park
https://x.com/maddenifico/status/2015801742215049708?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Thanks. As I said.
"In other words, the revolutionaries [good guys] have the backing of the Minneapolis police chief."
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The key words are "even if." That doesn't mean there was legal justification. Watch the video. The ICE agents unnecessarily escalated the situation. There was no effort to de-escalate. They could have backed off.
Same with Renee Good. ICE could simply have let her drive away. Agent Ross didn't have to get in front of her vehicle. ICE chose to escalate.
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fify
The key words are "even if." That doesn't mean there was legal justification. Watch the video. The ICE agents unnecessarily escalated the situation. There was no effort to de-escalate. They could have backed off.
Same with Renee Good. ICE could simply have let her drive away. Agent Ross didn't have to get in front of her vehicle. ICE chose to escalate.
The sentence with "even if" is irrelevant. The sentence that follows is offering support for more protesting.
Maybe, as the Lieutenant Governor said, 'put your bodies on the line.'
"I don't think that even matters at this point, because there just – there is so much outrage and concern around what is happening in the city".
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The sentence with "even if" is irrelevant. The sentence that follows is offering support for more protesting.
Maybe, as the Lieutenant Governor said, 'put your bodies on the line.'
"I don't think that even matters at this point, because there just – there is so much outrage and concern around what is happening in the city".
What is happening in the city that is causing so much outrage and concern?
Is it what ICE is doing, or how they are doing it?
It's not about whose side one is on.
The local police can confiscate a large number of illegal guns without shooting anyone.
ICE can't disarm a man who is legally carrying without shooting him multiple times.
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This take is so shitty it almost has to be satire. Except it’s not.
https://x.com/justjenrx/status/2015255330347679931?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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What is happening in the city that is causing so much outrage and concern?
Is it what ICE is doing, or how they are doing it?
It's not about whose side one is on.
The local police can confiscate a large number number of illegal guns without shooting anyone.
ICE can't disarm a man who is legally carrying without shooting him multiple times.
He was interfering with federal law enforcement operations, resisted law enforcement and was carrying a loaded gun.
Nobody knew how many guns he had.
ICE is working around the country, and in the rest of Minnesota, without the issues that the Gov, the Mayor and the police chief have let happen in Minneapolis.
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He was interfering with federal law enforcement operations, resisted law enforcement and was carrying a loaded gun.
What a fucking joke. You are the bootlickiest of bootlickers. A complete shill for a fascist regime.
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Nobody knew how many guns he had.
That is a moot point. They can't shoot someone for having a gun; let alone for maybe having a gun. You do know that?
ICE is working around the country, and in the rest of Minnesota, without the issues that the Gov, the Mayor and the police chief have let happen in Minneapolis.
How many agents are in Minneapolis compared with other locations?
They had similar issues in the Chicago area.
They are having similar issues in Maine..
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That is a moot point. They can't shoot someone for having a gun; let alone for maybe having a gun. You do know that?
How many agents are in Minneapolis compared with other locations?
They had similar issues in the Chicago area.
They are having similar issues in Maine..
They’re having trouble in liberal areas. That’s not a coincidence. It’s by design…
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That is a moot point. They can't shoot someone for having a gun; let alone for maybe having a gun. You do know that?
How many agents are in Minneapolis compared with other locations?
They had similar issues in the Chicago area.
They are having similar issues in Maine..
The guy purposely inserted himself into interfering with ICE. Tempo even typed that when trying to explain what happened. It because there’s no other explanation that he can say…
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The guy purposely inserted himself into interfering with ICE. Tempo even typed that when trying to explain what happened. It because there’s no other explanation that he can say…
Even if true, so what? Interfering with ICE is not a capital offense..
What I saw was ICE abusing an innocent woman. He "interfered" to protect her.
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"We're being terrorized.' What Mainers are seeing as ICE launches operation in the state
Nation Jan 23, 2026 6:47 PM EST
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/were-being-terrorized-what-mainers-are-seeing-as-ice-launches-operation-in-the-state
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They’re having trouble in liberal areas. That’s not a coincidence. It’s by design…
There were 300 agents assigned to Chicago for Operation Midway
3000 agents were dispatched to Minnesota, concentrated in Minneapolis-St. Paul.
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WDS. Walz Derangement Syndrome!
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WDS. Walz Derangement Syndrome!
Haha no one is getting deranged over that clueless boob.
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There were 300 agents assigned to Chicago for Operation Midway
3000 agents were dispatched to Minnesota, concentrated in Minneapolis-St. Paul.
There is zero, or less, cooperation between Minneapolis and Saint Paul police with ICE.
People alledgedly have been calling 911 to jam the system in efforts to get police deployed away from any ICE operations.
If ICE calls, there is no assistance.
I have seen no reports of any real issues in any location outside of the metropolitan area.
In some places, ICE is welcomed. They do their job and leave.
There are 3000 people in the operation because there is zero cooperation from state and local police. If it takes 20 agents to make an arrest or detainment, it takes 2-3 for the effort and the other 17-18 are for crowd control and protection.
The interfering with ICE operations and the protests are very well coordinated. State and local governments are encouraging the protesting while standing in front of a camera and downplaying any role in the violence.
The downside of zero cooperation is that nearly all of the enforcement is being done on the street. If 1 individual is targeted, and found with a few others who may never be targets, then all of the individuals get detained.
That's what Walz and Frey are causing thru their zero cooperation position. And they've known that and been told that.
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Haha no one is getting deranged over that clueless boob.
I’d beg to differ.
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What the media reports:
In his press release Governor Walz has disputed the government's position that Minnesota is not cooperating with removal operations. In fact, the Department of Corrections has cooperated with ICE in honoring ICE detainment with state prison inmates upon their release from the state prison system.
The fact check:
The Department of Corrections has nothing to do with the local and county jail systems.
Within a couple of weeks of Trump taking office AG Ellison issued an opinion that ICE detainment requests will not be honored for local and county jail detainees.
When those people are released they can go straight into the community, thereby causing ICE to look for them in the community.
The AG opinion is the root of the matter. The Governor, AG and Mayor endorsed sanctuary city no cooperation position, not ICE, is resulting in the problems in the community.
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Michael Homstron is a state representative.
Note the threat of "significant civil liability" in enforcing immigration detainers.
In other words, you fucking better not try it.
This applies to the local and county jail systems.
And this is why Walz can say the Department of Corrections honors immigration detainers while not saying a thing about local and county jails.
(https://i.ibb.co/r986rNT/Screenshot-20260126-215707-Chrome.jpg) (https://ibb.co/s7xwYzk)
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Now, who wants to know about the encrypted chat system that is allegedly being used ?
There are maybe some local government officials who would prefer that you not know.
Are there state government officials also ?
There are maybe some media members who would prefer that you not know.
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This is from last night in Maple Grove, a NW suburb of Minneapolis.
The Maple Groce Police showed up, declared an unlawful assembly and arrested people.
Maple Grove is in Hennepin County, as is Minneapolis.
Maple Grove leadership apparently has no tolerance for what happens routinely in Minneapolis and Saint Paul.
AI
Recent events in Maple Grove, Minnesota, relate to protests against federal immigration enforcement operations under the Trump administration, rather than a direct ICE raid or enforcement action in the city itself.On the evening of January 26, 2026, protesters gathered outside the SpringHill Suites by Marriott hotel (in the 11600 block of Arbor Lakes Parkway). They believed it was lodging U.S. Border Patrol Commander Gregory Bovino (or other federal immigration agents/ICE personnel) amid heightened tensions over immigration crackdowns in the broader Minneapolis/Twin Cities area.The protest escalated:Demonstrators used noisemakers (like pots, pans, and utensils) to disrupt those inside.
Police reported unlawful behavior, including property damage and objects thrown at officers.
Maple Grove Police declared an unlawful assembly, issued dispersal orders, and arrested multiple people (reports vary from "several" to around 24 in some accounts) who refused to leave.
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There is zero, or less, cooperation between Minneapolis and Saint Paul police with ICE.
People alledgedly have been calling 911 to jam the system in efforts to get police deployed away from any ICE operations.
If ICE calls, there is no assistance.
I have seen no reports of any real issues in any location outside of the metropolitan area.
In some places, ICE is welcomed. They do their job and leave.
There are 3000 people in the operation because there is zero cooperation from state and local police. If it takes 20 agents to make an arrest or detainment, it takes 2-3 for the effort and the other 17-18 are for crowd control and protection.
The interfering with ICE operations and the protests are very well coordinated. State and local governments are encouraging the protesting while standing in front of a camera and downplaying any role in the violence.
The downside of zero cooperation is that nearly all of the enforcement is being done on the street. If 1 individual is targeted, and found with a few others who may never be targets, then all of the individuals get detained.
That's what Walz and Frey are causing thru their zero cooperation position. And they've known that and been told that.
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Nothing melts a brain faster than watching Fox News. That's all I will say on the topic.
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And, nothing melts a brain faster than watching CNN.
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Probably because Stephen Miller js writing their statements.
https://x.com/magacult2/status/2016134563073073372?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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With plummeting poll numbers on immigration. Trump will likely offer us a scalp or two. Noem and Bovino seem most likely. But like the hydra, cut off a head two more grow in its place. Policy won’t change, not as long as Stephen Miller maintains a position of influence in the administration.
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Somali fraud
https://x.com/suzierizzo1/status/2015863370793021643?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Do you remember during COVID-19 when armed protesters took over the Michigan state Capitol and federal agents killed them all because they "brought a gun to a peaceful protest"? Yeah. Me neither.
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Do you remember during COVID-19 when armed protesters took over the Michigan state Capitol and federal agents killed them all because they "brought a gun to a peaceful protest"? Yeah. Me neither.
We didn't shoot enough COVID or Jan 6th protestors last time around, apparently. That will need to change when they FAFO during President AOC's first term.
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-The Trump Administration claims Minnesota jails and prisons are releasing the "worst of the worst" instead of allowing ICE to immediately detain them for deportation.
-But many of the detainees highlighted by ICE haven’t been behind bars in Minnesota for several years or haven’t served any time at all in the state, according to court records reviewed by the FOX 9 Investigators.
-The records undercut DHS claims that ICE agents are having to pick up people recently cut loose by county jails.
-The Minnesota Department of Corrections said federal officials either fundamentally misunderstand how the system works, are "incompetent," or are deliberately engaging in propaganda.
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The backstory:
Minnesota law requires DOC to notify ICE when a person committed to DOC custody is not a U.S. citizen. DOC also honors all ICE detainers and coordinates transfers when ICE requests pickup.
Some county jails in Minnesota, most notably Hennepin County, do not honor ICE detainers.
That means the jail will not hold an inmate for ICE to pick up unless agents have a warrant signed by a judge.
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The records undercut DHS claims that ICE agents are having to pick up people recently cut loose by county jails.
More
https://www.fox9.com/news/ice-blames-jails-releasing-worst-worst-many-havent-been-behind-bars-years
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For example, DHS claims Hoyvanh Khounmixay was recently detained because he has a criminal record that includes sexually abusing a child and failing to register as a sex offender.
That’s true.
However, the sexual abuse charge was from 2006. The last time he spent time behind bars in Minnesota was in 2015. He served 20 days in the Mower County jail for failing to register as a sex offender.
Court records show he has not been in the system since then
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ICE agents recently detained an elderly man in his underwear even though he was not the target.
They were actually looking for Lue Moua, a felon from Laos who was convicted of sexually assaulting a minor, rape, kidnapping, and domestic violence.
After grabbing the wrong guy, DHS issued a wanted poster for Moua stating he is the "definition of the WORST OF THE WORST." Anyone who saw him was asked to help federal agents remove him from Minnesota streets.
ICE agents apparently failed to check state court records or the DOC website.
Moua is already in prison.
ICE can pick him up in 2028 when he finishes serving a four-year sentence for kidnapping.
Ibid
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I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling going on in here and lying by the Trump administration.
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Now, who wants to know about the encrypted chat system that is allegedly being used ?
There are maybe some local government officials who would prefer that you not know.
Are there state government officials also ?
There are maybe some media members who would prefer that you not know.
Signal!
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I'm shocked, shocked to find gambling going on in here and lying by the Trump administration.
I like your new Tempo quote, PAMan. But I think it was a missed opportunity for you not to include that I want to slit the throats of all capitalist pigs.
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Do you remember during COVID-19 when armed protesters took over the Michigan state Capitol and federal agents killed them all because they "brought a gun to a peaceful protest"? Yeah. Me neither.
I remember Kyle Rittenhouse.
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I remember Kyle Rittenhouse.
Wonder if he joined ICE. May as well.
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Thankfully it wasn't Mn!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/man-lunges-ilhan-omar-town-hall-try-spray-unknown-substance-rcna256247
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Mn, what’s your opinion on Pretti’s killing. Did he “fuck around and find out?” Custard?
This sums my thoughts up pretty well
https://x.com/albuffalo2nite/status/2016019164490588268?s=46
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If you think this guy is a one off, you’re fucking wrong.
“If you raise your voice, I’ll erase your voice.”
https://x.com/edkrassen/status/2016239206163742862?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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So Judy, don’t think you ever answered my question. What does your pastor/church have to say about ICE?
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Mn, Custard, and Judy LOVE the aristocracy!
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Mn, how many times do you think you’ll watch “Melania?”
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It’s hard to believe this isn’t satire. “We’re all ‘armed.’ We all have feet and hands. Trayvon Martin was armed with the earth and gravity as he was pinning George Zimmerman down.”
The wild part is this guy is an only shade nuttier than everyone else blaming Pretti for his own murder.
Mn, is this you?
https://x.com/thebrancashow/status/2015877405060301111?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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It’s hard to believe this isn’t satire. “We’re all ‘armed.’ We all have feet and hands. Trayvon Martin was armed with the earth and gravity as he was pinning George Zimmerman down.”
The wild part is this guy is an only shade nuttier than everyone else blaming Pretti for his own murder.
Mn, is this you?
https://x.com/thebrancashow/status/2015877405060301111?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Apparently this guy is an actual lawyer…
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So Judy, don’t think you ever answered my question. What does your pastor/church have to say about ICE?
Our church released a full statement the other day about the current situation. Didn’t say anything about impeding ICE, parking outside their hotels and making noise all night long, rioting, interfering in the arrests of criminals, etc.
While the Bible says to love the immigrant living amongst us, it also says that laws and borders should be enforced.
There doesn’t seem to be an exact Biblical corollary for Biden letting millions in and Trump shipping them back out. Pretty sure the Biblical middle ground is, “legal immigration and immigrants good, illegal immigration and illegal immigrants, not so good” which is where most sane people fall today. Only very recently has there been this growing sentiment that we need to open the doors and let em all stay. Aka suicidal empathy.
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Assertion: More than 10 million undocumented immigrants have flooded across our border during the Biden administration, while the Trump administration saw the lowest number of crossings in United States history.
Response: This is a misleading statement, as the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) characterizes border crossings as “encounters,” when migrants are encountered by the Border Patrol and can be returned. According to DHS, over 4 million of migrants encountered have been returned and 20-25 percent encountered are repeat offenders, severely lowering the total amount during the Biden administration.
In addition, the asylum-seekers who have been released into the country lawfully, having been vetted and processed by DHS and given a notice to appear for court proceedings. The number of migrants who have crossed undetected into the United States is much lower.
Annual apprehensions at the border increased nearly 15 percent under President Trump until the border was closed under Title 42 in 2020. Moreover, the Trump administration released a higher percentage of migrants into the country than the Biden administration, by 52.2 percent to 48.6 percent over a two-year period.
https://cmsny.org/correcting-record-false-misleading-statements-on-immigration/#:~:text=Assertion:%20More%20than%2010%20million,over%20a%20two%2Dyear%20period.
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Nm lol
Woke up groggy after a nap and wanted to rethink my post.
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Nm
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Nm
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Thankfully it wasn't Mn!
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/man-lunges-ilhan-omar-town-hall-try-spray-unknown-substance-rcna256247
Giving some staged Jussie Smollett vibes…
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Giving some staged Jussie Smollett vibes…
Same I thought of when Trump was purportedly "shot" in the ear by a supporter.
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Nm
Did Custard actually post what his preacher said about ICE? He posted what the preacher did not say about the situation.....
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As evidenced by the fact I thought I was editing the original post but created two new ones instead lol
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Yeah, Pretti was a peaceful observer… LOL
https://x.com/endwokeness/status/2016622296178237792?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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Yeah, Pretti was a peaceful observer… LOL
https://x.com/endwokeness/status/2016622296178237792?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
I was waiting for you to post this AI video; I was confident you would.
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I guess he has a very specific protesting uniform…
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If that was real, there’s about a 0% chance they just let him walk away. He’d have been arrested and charged at a minimum.
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I was waiting for you to post this AI video; I was confident you would.
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Good to know…
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Good to know…
I thought your line was, "I didn’t know that. Thanks!"???
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I thought your line was, "I didn’t know that. Thanks!"???
Tempo, I didn’t know that. Thanks!
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I was waiting for you to post this AI video; I was confident you would.
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Looks like Grok isn’t quite sure and it might be real. This is the problem with “news” and social media today. We don’t know what’s true and what’s fake. AI is only going to make this worse to distinguish…
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Looks like Grok isn’t quite sure and it might be real. This is the problem with “news” and social media today. We don’t know what’s true and what’s fake.
This is the way Trump wants it.
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I’ve seen conflicting reports from Grok. If it’s real, he had a very specific protesting outfit as it looked the same as the day he was shot. I’m of the belief it’s at least manipulated until I see a trustworthy source saying it isn’t.
Regardless, it changes very little. The punishment for kicking out a taillight isn’t execution 11 days later.
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He hits the nail on the head…
https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/2016675272188145980?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
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He hits the nail on the head…
https://x.com/ericldaugh/status/2016675272188145980?s=46&t=nLWTarDKWNHMqYhTVD-LQQ
People die in custody. It happens, but it’s not always excusable. Under any President. But we didn’t have ICE murdering people in the streets under Obama. Obama was far from perfect in several ways, Trump is 100x worse.
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Weakly supported whataboutism.
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Does "logos don't match official sites" mean that the video isn't from 'official' sites like CNN, NPR, BBC and tNYT ?
Pretti's parents have said the video is of Pretti.
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Does "logos don't match official sites" mean that the video isn't from 'official' sites like CNN, NPR, BBC and tNYT ?
Pretti's parents have said the video is of Pretti.
They could be olds who don’t even know how AI works. Were they there? Probably not.
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Pocahontas chimes in:
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/2016676363277664512?s=46
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Tempo’s hero. Fuck this guy 😂
https://x.com/ianmiles/status/2016719315597172960?s=46
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Thoughts tempo? I know you’ve liked some of his vids in the past.
https://x.com/thatskaizen/status/2016568333827789031?s=46
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1) she’s got the barrel pointing at the guys head.
2) cosplaying idiot
3) not fascist at all to pose with a decked out semi-automatic rifle a few days after her men murdered a law abiding citizen.
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Tempo’s hero. Fuck this guy 😂
https://x.com/ianmiles/status/2016719315597172960?s=46
Better than your guy.
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Thoughts tempo? I know you’ve liked some of his vids in the past.
https://x.com/thatskaizen/status/2016568333827789031?s=46
A fuck-ton going on there. A lot of it I don't necessarily disagree with. I find him pretty believable but something things I’d like to fact check him on. I also think he overlooks a few things. I view healthcare as a human right, and most of these people are subject to taxes they will never really see any benefit of. What constitutes “free healthcare?” A trip to the ER they never pay for? Are they getting cancer treatment for free? Doubtful.
We also don’t get free healthcare because the masters don’t allow it, not because we can’t afford it. He makes a lot of points, hard to address them all off of memory. I’d love to sit across from him at a table, unlike Judy’s disingenuous hack he thinks so highly of.
Also, an important often overlooked fact, once on American soil, you’re allowed to seek asylum.
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https://x.com/i/status/2016924006096453802
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I’ve seen conflicting reports from Grok. If it’s real, he had a very specific protesting outfit as it looked the same as the day he was shot. I’m of the belief it’s at least manipulated until I see a trustworthy source saying it isn’t.
Regardless, it changes very little. The punishment for kicking out a taillight isn’t execution 11 days later.
It appears CNN is airing the video and family confirm it was him. It shows he has a history of violent activity and a propensity for resistance and provocation. Hence, he fucked around and found out...
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It appears CNN is airing the video and family confirm it was him. It shows he has a history of violent activity and a propensity for resistance and provocation. Hence, he fucked around and found out...
Even if true, it doesn't show what provoked him. Let's show videos of ICE escalating situations time and again.
Saying it constitutes a history of violence is absurd.
What does a propensity for resistance and provocation even means.
Does FAFO mean noncompliant individuals will be taken down and shot in the back 9 times?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/29/alex-pretti-shooting-11-days-before-federal-officers-clash
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Even if true, it doesn't show what provoked him. Let's show videos of ICE escalating situations time and again.
Saying it constitutes a history of violence is absurd.
What does a propensity for resistance and provocation even means.
Does FAFO mean noncompliant individuals will be taken down and shot in the back 9 times?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/29/alex-pretti-shooting-11-days-before-federal-officers-clash
Come on man, I know you’re not ignorant. This isn’t hard to figure out. Who the fuck goes out trying to fuck with law enforcement and provoke them. You can protest, but don’t go being violent while carrying a weapon and interfering with their operations. This isn’t hard to understand. You go looking for trouble, you’re gonna find it. AND he did unfortunately…
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It appears CNN is airing the video and family confirm it was him. It shows he has a history of violent activity and a propensity for resistance and provocation. Hence, he fucked around and found out...
You are laughably deranged. Just fucking move to North Korea already.
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The head of Homeland Security doesn’t even know what Habeus Corpus is:
https://x.com/remakingmanhood/status/1925159022870573212?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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You are laughably deranged. Just fucking move to North Korea already.
I can’t, my daughter’s mom doesn’t wanna go there…
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I can’t, my daughter’s mom doesn’t wanna go there…
Touche. You've learned well from The Master.
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Touche. You've learned well from The Master.
I mean America under Trump is basically North Korea anyways… LOL
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I can’t, my daughter’s mom doesn’t wanna go there…
You’re the Man, right?
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You’re the Man, right?
🤦🏻♂️
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♂️
You’re the Man, you do what you want. Or you’re a cuck. That’s what I was told.
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You’re the Man, you do what you want. Or you’re a cuck. That’s what I was told.
You don’t realize I just said that because I was making fun of you?!
And no, I won’t go to North Korea because I don’t want to go to North Korea.
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You don’t realize I just said that because I was making fun of you?!
And no, I won’t go to North Korea because I don’t want to go to North Korea.
You should go there. You’d probably like it. Not allowed to be gay and I bet there are no men in women’s sports. Stand up to the government, and you’re summarily executed. You’re the perfect fit.
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I can’t, my daughter’s mom doesn’t wanna go there…
your daughter has 2 moms? Who knew.
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your daughter has 2 moms? Who knew.
I know right!
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your daughter has 2 moms? Who knew.
Same for Tempo. Is there anything wrong with that?!
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Come on man, I know you’re not ignorant. This isn’t hard to figure out. Who the fuck goes out trying to fuck with law enforcement and provoke them. You can protest, but don’t go being violent while carrying a weapon and interfering with their operations. This isn’t hard to understand. You go looking for trouble, you’re gonna find it. AND he did unfortunately…
Where was Pretti “violent?” Point out the specific point in the video of his murder. Please, and thank you.
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Come on man, I know you’re not ignorant. This isn’t hard to figure out. Who the fuck goes out trying to fuck with law enforcement and provoke them. You can protest, but don’t go being violent while carrying a weapon and interfering with their operations. This isn’t hard to understand. You go looking for trouble, you’re gonna find it. AND he did unfortunately…
There is no evidence he was violent the day he was shot. Do you mean the earlier incident? Calling that violent is a stretch, but are saying the shooting was premeditated revenge? That's murder.
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Where was Pretti “violent?” Point out the specific point in the video of his murder. Please, and thank you.
He must mean the earliest incident, when he was borderline violent? So was it a premeditated murder?
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He must mean the earliest incident, when he was borderline violent? So was it a premeditated murder?
You're pushing the left's making shit up narrative
The 1st incident was with Border Patrol. The 2nd incident was 11 days later and with ICE.
Pretti, carrying a loaded weapon, ended up being shot because he didn't surrender.
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You're pushing the left's making shit up narrative
The 1st incident was with Border Patrol. The 2nd incident was 11 days later and with ICE.
Pretti, carrying a loaded weapon, ended up being shot because he didn't surrender.
You're not following the previous conversation..JJ appeared to be saying he was shot because he was violent and cited the previous encounter.
You are telling me he was shot because he failed to surrender?!
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You're not following the preview conversation..JJ appeared to be saying he was shot because he was violent and cited the previous encounter.
You are telling me he was shot because he failed to surrender?!
Nope. He made another wrong decision and failed to surrender. Everything went downhill after that.
He was non-cooperative and had done everything wrong to that point. Tho the Lt Gov may disagree because he did what she had suggested that people do. He put his body on the line.
Stop trying to portray this as 'he was shot because he had a gun' or he was shot because he failed to surrender' or 'he was shot because of retribution.'
He should have listened to his parents and law enforcement rather than the Gov, the Lt Gov and the Mayor.
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https://youtu.be/GDaPdpwA4Iw
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Nope. He made another wrong decision and failed to surrender.
What's wrong with Minnesota?
Mn is alive and Prince is dead.
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Mn AG Ellison's efforts to end ICE operations in Minnesota were denied by a Biden appointed judge.
"Defendants have introduced evidence that the operation was also launched to increase arrests of noncitizens with criminal convictions in Minnesota and the Twin Cities, an effort they claim has been hindered by Plaintiffs’ refusal to assist with federal immigration enforcement efforts. (See Olson Decl. ¶¶ 14–18; Harvick Decl. ¶ 7; cf. Dkt. 1 ¶ 113.
17)
Based on the record before the Court, a factfinder could reasonably credit that Plaintiffs’
sanctuary policies require a greater presence of federal agents to achieve the federal
government’s immigration enforcement objectives than in a jurisdiction that actively
assists ICE."
Fyi, the judge did not highlight what has been known for quite a while.
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AI perspectives
In her Saturday ruling, U.S. District Judge Alexandra Menendez noted evidence that ICE and CBP agents have engaged in "racial profiling, excessive use of force, and other harmful actions" during a heightened immigration enforcement surge in Minnesota. While acknowledging these findings, she denied a request to block the operation, BBC and PBS reported.
Key details of the ruling and context:
*Context: The ruling was part of a lawsuit regarding "Operation Metro Surge" in Minnesota, which included the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis resident by an ICE agent.
Findings: Menendez stated there was evidence of "profound and even heartbreaking" effects on residents, including the aforementioned misconduct.
"Decision: Despite these concerns, she denied the injunction to stop the surge because she found the case did not meet the high threshold for immediate, sweeping relief at this stage of the lawsuit, WJHL noted.
*Related Litigation: The judge separately noted that another injunction she issued restricting agent tactics at protests was recently blocked by an appellate court, The New York Times stated.
Meanwhile
In late January 2026, an internal memo from a top U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) official reportedly ordered agents in Minneapolis not to interact or communicate with protesters (referred to in the memo as "agitators").
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AI perspectives
In her Saturday ruling, U.S. District Judge Alexandra Menendez noted evidence that ICE and CBP agents have engaged in "racial profiling, excessive use of force, and other harmful actions" during a heightened immigration enforcement surge in Minnesota. While acknowledging these findings, she denied a request to block the operation, BBC and PBS reported.
Key details of the ruling and context:
*Context: The ruling was part of a lawsuit regarding "Operation Metro Surge" in Minnesota, which included the fatal shooting of a Minneapolis resident by an ICE agent.
Findings: Menendez stated there was evidence of "profound and even heartbreaking" effects on residents, including the aforementioned misconduct.
"Decision: Despite these concerns, she denied the injunction to stop the surge because she found the case did not meet the high threshold for immediate, sweeping relief at this stage of the lawsuit, WJHL noted.
*Related Litigation: The judge separately noted that another injunction she issued restricting agent tactics at protests was recently blocked by an appellate court, The New York Times stated.
Meanwhile
In late January 2026, an internal memo from a top U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) official reportedly ordered agents in Minneapolis not to interact or communicate with protesters (referred to in the memo as "agitators").
As I said, the defendant's have "been hindered by Plaintiffs’ refusal to assist with federal immigration enforcement efforts."
And in the related case, the injunction wasn't only blocked by the appellate court. The court held that the class certification had no chance to succeed.
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As I said, the defendant's have "been hindered by Plaintiffs’ refusal to assist with federal immigration enforcement efforts."
And in the related case, the injunction wasn't only blocked by the appellate court. The court held that the class certification had no chance to succeed.
And there are sound reasons for local enforcement not acting as immigration officers. If you watched Law & Order etc. you should know that.
They don't need 3400 poorly trained agents violating the 4th amendment and creating more problems than they solve.
Minneapolis and St. Paul have about 1200 officers combined.
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"Plaintiff's refusal to assist" could not be much clearer.
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AI review 21 sources
Sanctuary cities are jurisdictions that limit cooperation with federal immigration authorities, primarily by declining to honor "detainers" issued by Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) for individuals in local custody. These policies, which began in the 1980s, are designed to enhance public safety by encouraging immigrant communities to report crimes without fear of deportation.
The conflict often hinges on the distinction between administrative warrants (issued by ICE) and judicial warrants (issued by a court), with many sanctuaries only honoring the latter.
ICE Detainers (Form I-247)
*Definition: An ICE detainer, or "ICE hold," is a nonbinding request from ICE to a local law enforcement agency (LEA) to maintain custody of a person—who would otherwise be released—for up to 48 hours to allow ICE to take them into custody.
*Legal Status: Federal courts have frequently found that holding individuals solely on the basis of a detainer is illegal and may violate Fourth Amendment protections against unlawful detention.
*Sanctuary Policy: Most sanctuary policies instruct local agencies to refuse these requests, as they are not legally binding commands, and to refrain from notifying ICE about release dates.
Administrative Warrants (Forms I-200, I-205
"Definition: These are civil immigration warrants signed by an ICE supervisor or agent, not an independent judge or magistrate. They authorize the arrest of a noncitizen for immigration purposes.
*Limitations: Because they are not reviewed by a judicial branch officer, they do not authorize nonconsensual entry into a private residence.
*"Secret" Directive: As of early 2026, a legal challenge arose regarding a previously undisclosed ICE directive suggesting that a "Warrant of Removal/Deportation" (Form I-205) could be used to enter homes without consent, which civil liberties advocates argue conflicts with the Fourth Amendment.
Judicial Warrants
"Definition: A warrant issued by a federal or state judge/magistrate based on a finding of probable cause
*Authority: A judicial warrant authorizes law enforcement to make an arrest, search, or seizure, and must be complied with, including entry into private homes.
*Sanctuary Requirement: Many sanctuary jurisdictions will only cooperate with ICE if they provide a judicial warrant, citing the need for constitutional compliance.
History
*1980s Origins: Sanctuary policies originated in the 1980s when religious organizations provided sanctuary to Central American refugees fleeing civil war, which the Reagan administration classified as "economic migration".
*First Municipalities: San Francisco was the first to adopt a formal "City of Refuge" ordinance (No. 12-h) in 1989, prohibiting the use of city resources for federal immigration enforcement.
*2017–Present: The Trump administration attempted to revoke federal funding for sanctuary cities, resulting in legal battles over the scope of 8 U.S.C. § 1373, which concerns information sharing.
Rationale
*Public Safety & Trust: The primary argument is that when local police act as immigration agents, immigrants stop reporting crimes, making communities less safe.
"Resource Allocation: Local jurisdictions argue that detaining immigrants for civil infractions is a federal responsibility and a waste of local taxpayer money and police resources.
*Constitutional Protection: Supporters argue that complying with ICE requests without a judicial warrant violates the Fourth Amendment rights of residents.
Recent Developments (2025–2026)
*Stricter Detentions: An ICE memo issued around July 2025 instructed Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) officers that individuals who entered without inspection were generally no longer eligible for bail, aiming for expedited removal.
*Increased Detainers: Some cities, such as Boston, saw a sharp rise in detainer requests (57 in 2025 vs. 15 in 2024), despite local policies to reject them.
*Litigation: Legal challenges are currently addressing whether administrative warrants can be used to enter private homes, with lawsuits arguing they violate the Fourth Amendment.
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"Plaintiff's refusal to assist" could not be much clearer.
This is equally clear, regardless of bad court decisions
Public Safety & Trust: The primary argument is that when local police act as immigration agents, immigrants stop reporting crimes, making communities less safe.
"Resource Allocation: Local jurisdictions argue that detaining immigrants for civil infractions is a federal responsibility and a waste of local taxpayer money and police resources.
*Constitutional Protection: Supporters argue that complying with ICE requests without a judicial warrant violates the Fourth Amendment rights of residents.
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Training must be really bad if guys with their tenure are shooting people...
https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez
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You're pushing the left's making shit up narrative
The 1st incident was with Border Patrol. The 2nd incident was 11 days later and with ICE.
Oops!
"The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez."
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Training must be really bad if guys with their tenure are shooting people...
https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez
So two Mexicans shot a white guy...
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So two Mexicans shot a white guy...
Ironic, isn't it?
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You're pushing the left's making shit up narrative
The 1st incident was with Border Patrol. The 2nd incident was 11 days later and with ICE.
Pretti, carrying a loaded weapon, ended up being shot because he didn't surrender.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha “didn’t surrender.” Fucking hilarious
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Training must be really bad if guys with their tenure are shooting people...
https://www.propublica.org/article/alex-pretti-shooting-cbp-agents-identified-jesus-ochoa-raymundo-gutierrez
They literally shortened it to 47 days, because “47!” How cute!
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Also, apparently they are training with the IDF.
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They literally shortened it to 47 days, because “47!” How cute!
The 2 shooters have been agents for awhile.....
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The 2 shooters have been agents for awhile.....
Tempo missed that but I didn't. Guess Noem figures that if a decade of service produces incompetence, who needs more than symbolic training?
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BTC was arguing with some clown on Piers Morgan today, and the guy was yelling back at him over and over "WHAT LAW DID THEY BREAK? WHAT WILL THEY BE CHARGED WITH?"
Don't think this clown realizes that when you have this much video, the only court that matters is the court of public opinion. The two goofballs who shot Pretti might not be charged, and even if they are Trump will pardon them. But this is the start of the endgame for Trumpworld.
There was jackshit during the first term. Even January 6 seemed like an aberration. And the young people didn't really see anything that would really piss them off.
This Minneapolis bullshit, it's over. The house of cards is collapsing. Trump can try to catch them as they fall, but it's over.
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The 2 shooters have been agents for awhile.....
Poorly trained ones maybe?
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Poorly trained ones maybe?
So it is Biden's fault.....
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So it is Biden's fault.....
Holding Trump accountable as always! It appears one was hired under Trump, and one under Obama. So their fault, I guess. But thanks for admitting Border Patrol and ICE are poorly trained.
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Holding Trump accountable as always! It appears one was hired under Trump, and one under Obama. So their fault, I guess. But thanks for admitting Border Patrol and ICE are poorly trained.
I'm not the one accusing Biden of poor training on this one.
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I'm not the one accusing Biden of poor training on this one.
I just said they were hired under Obama and Trump.
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And if they are racists who are told by their bosses they have immunity, I’m not sure any amount of training helps.
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I just said they were hired under Obama and Trump.
Right, but there was no training under Biden either?
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And if they are racists who are told by their bosses they have immunity, I’m not sure any amount of training helps.
Well, I'm open to agents with Spanish sounding names being racist towards Gringos and others.
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Well, I'm open to agents with Spanish sounding names being racist towards Gringos and others.
Fucking antisemites
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Well, I'm open to agents with Spanish sounding names being racist towards Gringos and others.
“The wolf, rule, army strength.” Very apropos. To get technical, “gringo” is more of a Latin American term.
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https://sahanjournal.com/immigration/ice-minneapolis-2-year-old-detained-texas-transfer/
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Yes detaining criminals and illegal immigrants is the same as Nazi Germany lol
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Yes detaining criminals and illegal immigrants is the same as Nazi Germany lol
Detaining criminals and illegal immigrants like Marimar Martinez, Alex Pretti, Renee Good, ChongLy "Scott" Thao ....
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Mon, January 19, 2026 at 5:58 AM CST
President Donald Trump’s top aide, Stephen Miller, shockingly declared that local and state law enforcement have been ordered to “stand down and surrender” as anti-ICE protests continue to grip the state.
In a social media post late Sunday night, Miller said, “Only federal officers are upholding the law.”
He added: “Local and state police have been ordered to stand down and surrender.
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/stephen-miller-says-mn-authorities-ordered-to-stand-down-and-surrender-to-federal-officers-as-anti-ice-protests-intensify/
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Shows what Miller is thinking
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That is just such a bizarre tweet from Miller. Dude is fucked in the head.
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Yes detaining criminals and illegal immigrants is the same as Nazi Germany lol
That’s where it starts. Just comply and hopefully you won’t get taken away or killed.
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Miller is a lot of things, but I don’t think he’s completely stupid. He chose the word “surrender” for a reason.
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https://x.com/i/status/2019277728361640445
Hmmm?
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That’s where it starts. Just comply and hopefully you won’t get taken away or killed.
He should be concerned when the Progressives take over and use the same tactics. Now that there is precedent. They will definitely not care about Due Process, etc.
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He should be concerned when the Progressives take over and use the same tactics. Now that there is precedent. They will definitely not care about Due Process, etc.
LOL
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Put your body on the line 101 you little commies
“I immediately knew that it was very wrong essentially because she was saying that because I am white, because I am a white student, that I essentially need to act as a human shield and interfere with federal agents. As a future educator, I would never ever instruct my own students to put their own safety on the line,” she added."
https://alphanews.org/student-says-professor-conducted-ice-drill-in-class-told-students-to-use-their-bodies-as-shields/
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It's ok to interfere with federal law enforcement you little commies. Solidarity by, and for, the people. ✊️
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Put your body on the line 101 you little commies
“I immediately knew that it was very wrong essentially because she was saying that because I am white, because I am a white student, that I essentially need to act as a human shield and interfere with federal agents. As a future educator, I would never ever instruct my own students to put their own safety on the line,” she added."
https://alphanews.org/student-says-professor-conducted-ice-drill-in-class-told-students-to-use-their-bodies-as-shields/
So you're saying both sides have crazies? Thanks for sharing this groundbreaking news.
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Our borders are created to protect the illegals among us
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So you're saying both sides have crazies? Thanks for sharing this groundbreaking news.
Thanks for agreeing that the Progressives are no different than the Trumpers. Glad you agree they are the flip side of the same coin and all. Redreshing to see!
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Thanks for agreeing that the Progressives are no different than the Trumpers. Glad you agree they are the flip side of the same coin and all. Redreshing to see!
They might favor different policies.
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Thanks for agreeing that the Progressives are no different than the Trumpers. Glad you agree they are the flip side of the same coin and all. Redreshing to see!
If this place has shown me anything, even the moderates have crazies. But you’re about as moderate as George W. Bush.
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They might favor different policies.
He can’t wrap his head around that or see the significance or distinction.
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They might favor different policies.
But use the same methods to get what they want.
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He can’t wrap his head around that or see the significance or distinction.
Neither care about the rule of law either, as we have seen
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Neither care about the rule of law either, as we have seen
It becomes hard for progressives to unilaterally give up passive resistance efforts when ICE et al are aggressively abusing official government power.
Progressives do stupid shit like imposing pronoun choice and identity politics. Trumpers break things and shoot people.
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But use the same methods to get what they want.
Voting?
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Neither care about the rule of law either, as we have seen
I love that PAMan focuses only on the most extreme elements. As if they they are the drivers.
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Put your body on the line 101 you little commies
Turn in your medicare card and return your Social Security or STFU
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“I immediately knew that it was very wrong essentially because she was saying that because I am white, because I am a white student, that I essentially need to act as a human shield and interfere with federal agents.
What's funny is, before Trump, it might be a good strategy. Nowadays, federal agents shoot white people too.
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I love that PAMan focuses only on the most extreme elements. As if they they are the drivers.
Uh, have you seen what is happening outside your door?
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Uh, have you seen what is happening outside your door?
This happened in Chicago:
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"Marimar Martinez was shot five times after a traffic incident in Chicago. The Department of Homeland Security called her a "domestic terrorist."
The feds claimed agents were "boxed in by 10 cars" when Martinez's vehicle "rammed" their car.
However, Martinez's attorneys say the sealed body camera footage shows Martinez never rammed them, officers were never boxed in or obstructed, and she never threatened officers with her car.
A federal judge has now ordered that body cam footage to be unsealed: https://reason.pub/4tnabR2
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This happened in Chicago:
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"Marimar Martinez was shot five times after a traffic incident in Chicago. The Department of Homeland Security called her a "domestic terrorist."
The feds claimed agents were "boxed in by 10 cars" when Martinez's vehicle "rammed" their car.
However, Martinez's attorneys say the sealed body camera footage shows Martinez never rammed them, officers were never boxed in or obstructed, and she never threatened officers with her car.
A federal judge has now ordered that body cam footage to be unsealed: https://reason.pub/4tnabR2
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That's part of it.
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Uh, have you seen what is happening outside your door?
Apparently not.
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The semi-truck driver came in under Biden's CBP One app. It took him a little over a year to kill 4 a few days ago.
This was east of Chicago and I understand that these people don't count.
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https://amishamerica.com/four-amish-men-killed-semi-truck-head-on-wreck/
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The semi-truck driver came in under Biden's CBP One app. It took him a little over a year to kill 4 a few days ago.
This was east of Chicago and I understand that these people don't count.
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https://amishamerica.com/four-amish-men-killed-semi-truck-head-on-wreck/
Fake outrage.
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As I said
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The semi-truck driver came in under Biden's CBP One app. It took him a little over a year to kill 4 a few days ago.
This was east of Chicago and I understand that these people don't count.
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https://amishamerica.com/four-amish-men-killed-semi-truck-head-on-wreck/
You think this is a case against migrants - but it's a case against motor vehicles.
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I could find us a thousand cases against drunk driving. Tens of thousands. Deport all drunk drivers?
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The semi-truck driver came in under Biden's CBP One app. It took him a little over a year to kill 4 a few days ago.
This was east of Chicago and I understand that these people don't count.
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https://amishamerica.com/four-amish-men-killed-semi-truck-head-on-wreck/
Deport 68 year old truck drivers
2 Dead, 4 Wounded in Collision Between Semi and Car https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/1-dead-1-wounded-in-car-semi-crash-near-manteno/24510/
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I could find us a thousand cases against drunk driving. Tens of thousands. Deport all drunk drivers?
Democrats… We should start banning semis, not the legals or illegals driving them!!!
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"A 2010 International semi failed to slow down and smashed into the back of the car, causing it to collide with the other semi."
"The driver of the International semi, a 68-year-old man from Clarendon Hills, was taken to Riverside Medical Center in Kankakee, where he was treated and released, police said. He was cited for failure to reduce speed to avoid an accident."
Apparently, the 68 year old semi driver that failed to slow down and killed 2: people from Florida wasn't an illegal immigrant..
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Democrats… We should start banning semis, not the legals or illegals driving them!!!
Semis and cars sharing the same roads isn't really all that safe.
AI Overview
Sharing the road with semi-trucks presents significant safety challenges due to the extreme differences in size, weight, and maneuverability, contributing to thousands of fatal crashes annually. While many drivers complete journeys safely, accidents involving large trucks are often devastating for passenger vehicle occupants, who make up the majority of fatalities in such collisions.
Here is a breakdown of the dangers and safety considerations:
Why Sharing the Road is Dangerous
-Massive Blind Spots ("No-Zones"): Semi-trucks have large blind spots on both sides, directly behind, and in front of them. A general rule is: if you cannot see the driver's face in their side mirror, they cannot see you.
-Long Stopping Distances: Due to their immense weight, large trucks require 40% more time and distance to stop than passenger cars.
-Wide Turns: Trucks often need to swing wide to the left to turn right, creating a danger for cars in the adjacent lane.
-High Center of Gravity: Semis can tip over more easily in high winds or during sharp turns.
-Size Disparity: A passenger vehicle is 20-30 times smaller than a semi-truck, leading to catastrophic outcomes in collisions, such as "underride" crashes where a car slides under a trailer.
Common Misconceptions and Contributing Factors
*Fault Distribution: Contrary to popular belief, passenger vehicle drivers are often at fault in collisions with large trucks (ranging from 56% to 80% of cases, according to different studies).
*Risky Driver Behaviors: Common causes of accidents include cutting off trucks, lingering in blind spots, and merging without allowing enough space.
*Environmental Factors: In wet weather, trucks can create heavy spray, reducing visibility for smaller vehicles, or blowouts can send debris flying.
Tips for Safer Coexistence
-Increase Following Distance: Maintain a minimum 4-second gap behind a truck.
-Pass Quickly and Safely: Only pass on the left, and ensure you can see the entire front of the truck in your rearview mirror before merging back in.
-Avoid "The Sandbox": Never drive in the narrow space between two trucks or directly beside one for extended periods.
Give Extra Room for Turns: Do not attempt to pass on the right when a truck is turning.
-Turn Off High Beams: Avoid blinding truck drivers with bright lights at night.
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Democrats… We should start banning semis, not the legals or illegals driving them!!!
If you’re driving drunk - you are illegal
It’s that simple
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If you’re driving drunk - you are illegal
It’s that simple
And if you shoot somebody it’s the person committing the illegal act, not the gun! Glad we agree!
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I fully support the right of women to bare arms, and legs ...
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I fully support the right of women to bare arms, and legs ...
We agree…
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And if you shoot somebody it’s the person committing the illegal act, not the gun! Glad we agree!
We have a very strict licensing provision for Drivers licenses, testing, re-testing, and those found to be driving outside of provisions can have their license revoked and their vehicle impounded.
To address drunk driving via checkpoints where drivers found to be driving drunk are arrested.
I would be absolutely on board with your presumed desire to put similar restrictions on gun owners.
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We have a very strict licensing provision for Drivers licenses, testing, re-testing, and those found to be driving outside of provisions can have their license revoked and their vehicle impounded.
To address drunk driving via checkpoints where drivers found to be driving drunk are arrested.
I would be absolutely on board with your presumed desire to put similar restrictions on gun owners.
The problem you have is one is in The Constitution and the other isn't.
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The problem you have is one is in The Constitution and the other isn't.
Read the Constitution from start to finish, and after each Amendment, tell me if you can drink alcohol.
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Read the Constitution from start to finish, and after each Amendment, tell me if you can drink alcohol.
The regulation of alcohol is left to the states after the 14th Amendment was repealed.
The Second Amendment does not leave regulation of guns to the states and protects your right to bear arms.
As mentioned, one right is protected the other, not so much.
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Just because a right is not enumerated in the Constitution, does not mean it does not exist. Also, the meaning of the 2nd amendment is still debatable.
That said, the Courts presently
*View operating a motor vehicle as a privilege granted and regulated by the state
*View the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right subject to reasonable limits
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AI Overview:
Key Limitations on the Second Amendment include:
-Prohibited Persons: Restrictions on possession by felons, individuals with certain mental illnesses, or those under domestic violence restraining orders.
-Sensitive Places: Bans on carrying weapons in schools, government buildings, polling sites, and airports.
-Weapon Types: Restrictions on certain types of weapons, such as fully automatic machine guns, or, in some jurisdictions, assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
-Commercial/Public Regulation: Laws regarding background checks, concealed carry permits, and licensing are generally upheld.
The Supreme Court in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) affirmed that the right is not a right to "keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose".
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Just because a right is not enumerated in the Constitution, does not mean it does not exist. Also, the meaning of the 2nd amendment is still debatable.
That said, the Courts presently
*View operating a motor vehicle as a privilege granted and regulated by the state
*View the right to keep and bear arms as an individual right subject to reasonable limits
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AI Overview:
Key Limitations on the Second Amendment include:
-Prohibited Persons: Restrictions on possession by felons, individuals with certain mental illnesses, or those under domestic violence restraining orders.
-Sensitive Places: Bans on carrying weapons in schools, government buildings, polling sites, and airports.
-Weapon Types: Restrictions on certain types of weapons, such as fully automatic machine guns, or, in some jurisdictions, assault weapons and high-capacity magazines.
-Commercial/Public Regulation: Laws regarding background checks, concealed carry permits, and licensing are generally upheld.
The Supreme Court in District of Columbia v. Heller (2008) affirmed that the right is not a right to "keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose".
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Murph was discussing two "rights," one of which is enshrined in the Constitution and the other isn't. The distinction is relevant to his post.
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At least 20-26 states have specific laws restricting the possession or discharge of firearms while intoxicated, treating it as a serious criminal offense, often a misdemeanor or felony. These laws typically prohibit using or carrying guns while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, with penalties including fines, jail time, and revocation of concealed carry permits.
Key aspects of state laws regarding firearms and intoxication include:
Specific State Examples:
*Ohio: It is illegal to carry or use any firearm while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, classified as a first-degree misdemeanor Ohio Revised Code.
*llinois: The Firearm Concealed Carry Act prohibits carrying a concealed weapon under the influence of alcohol or drugs, with penalties ranging from Class A misdemeanors to Class 4 felonies.
*Florida: Using a firearm (discharging or holding) while intoxicated can result in up to 60 days in jail.
*Virginia: Carrying a concealed handgun while under the influence is a Class 1 misdemeanor, leading to a five-year permit revocation and up to 12 months in jail.
*Oklahoma: It is unlawful to carry or use rifles, shotguns, or pistols while under the influence of alcohol or drugs, per 21 O.S. § 21-1289.9.
-Definition of Intoxication: While some states use the legal driving limit of 0.08% blood alcohol content (BAC), others define it as being "under the influence" to a degree that impairs judgment, which can apply even below the 0.08% threshold.
-Possession vs. Discharge: Laws often cover more than just firing; simply possessing or carrying a firearm while intoxicated is illegal in many jurisdictions.
-Consequences: Penalties frequently include significant fines, jail sentences, suspension or permanent revocation of concealed carry licenses, and potential felony charges for repeat offenders.
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Murph was discussing two "rights," one of which is enshrined in the Constitution and the other isn't. The distinction is relevant to his post.
There are differences. One is a right, the other is a conditional privilege. But states can and do restrict the use of firearms while intoxicated.
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There are differences. One is a right, the other is a conditional privilege. But states can and do restrict the use of firearms while intoxicated.
When he's taking about checkpoints, he's going far beyond what you are talking about.
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The regulation of alcohol is left to the states after the 14th Amendment was repealed.
Stephen Miller just read your post and had a triple orgasm
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The Second Amendment does not leave regulation of guns to the states and protects your right to bear arms.
Guns? The word guns is not in there.
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I cannot own a nuclear missile,
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Guns? The word guns is not in there.
Second Amendment
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
I cannot own a nuclear missile,
Good luck with your interpretation of the Second Amendment. Otis McDonald, the retired maintenance guy, won his lawsuit.
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Good luck with your interpretation of the Second Amendment. Otis McDonald, the retired maintenance guy, won his lawsuit.
Dude you can’t tell the difference between the 14th and the 18th don’t be all I’m a constitutional scholar now
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Dude you can’t tell the difference between the 14th and the 18th don’t be all I’m a constitutional scholar now
The 18th doesn't exist anymore.
You want to regulate guns like alcohol. Sorry, dude, California lost again and Americans have the right to own guns so criminals aren't the only ones with guns. Suck on that and like it.
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The 18th doesn't exist anymore.
You want to regulate guns like alcohol. Sorry, dude, California lost again and Americans have the right to own guns so criminals aren't the only ones with guns. Suck on that and like it.
You forgot to call him a BITCH!
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The 18th doesn't exist anymore.
You want to regulate guns like alcohol. Sorry, dude, California lost again and Americans have the right to own guns so criminals aren't the only ones with guns. Suck on that and like it.
according to you neither does the 14th
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according to you neither does the 14th
In the case of regulating cars and intoxicants on one hand and guns on the other, the specific amendment will control the guns. So enjoy your 2d Amendment rights.
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AI review
United States courts have ruled on the constitutionality of various police checkpoints, establishing clear boundaries between acceptable administrative stops and unconstitutional,,,GENERAL crime-control measures. While courts have approved checkpoints for sobriety, license verification, and immigration, they have not approved checkpoints designed specifically to find unlicensed weapons, as such tactics are generally considered unconstitutional general crime control.
Here is a breakdown of the legal landscape:
1. The Supreme Court Ruling on General Crime Checkpoints
-The definitive case is City of Indianapolis v. Edmond (2001), where the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that checkpoints whose primary purpose is to detect evidence of ordinary criminal wrongdoing (such as illegal drugs or unlicensed weapons) are unconstitutional.
-The Rationale: The Court determined that while stops for public safety (e.g., drunk driving or border security) are permissible, using checkpoints to catch "general crime" violates the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure.
-The Line: If a,checkpoint is designed to,say, "see if you have a gun," it is likely illegal. If it is designed to check for a driver's license and the officer happens to see an illegal gun in plain view, that may be admissible.
2. Legal vs. Illegal Checkpoints
-Legal (Administrative/Regulatory): Sobriety checkpoints, border patrols, and license/registration checks are generally legal because they have a specific, non-investigatory purpose.
-Illegal (General Crime Control): Checkpoints aimed at searching for illegal drugs, unlicensed weapons, or "crime" in high-crime areas are prohibited.
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AI review
United States courts have ruled on the constitutionality of various police checkpoints, establishing clear boundaries between acceptable administrative stops and unconstitutional,,,GENERAL crime-control measures. While courts have approved checkpoints for sobriety, license verification, and immigration, they have not approved checkpoints designed specifically to find unlicensed weapons, as such tactics are generally considered unconstitutional general crime control.
Here is a breakdown of the legal landscape:
1. The Supreme Court Ruling on General Crime Checkpoints
-The definitive case is City of Indianapolis v. Edmond (2001), where the U.S. Supreme Court ruled 6-3 that checkpoints whose primary purpose is to detect evidence of ordinary criminal wrongdoing (such as illegal drugs or unlicensed weapons) are unconstitutional.
-The Rationale: The Court determined that while stops for public safety (e.g., drunk driving or border security) are permissible, using checkpoints to catch "general crime" violates the Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure.
-The Line: If a,checkpoint is designed to,say, "see if you have a gun," it is likely illegal. If it is designed to check for a driver's license and the officer happens to see an illegal gun in plain view, that may be admissible.
2. Legal vs. Illegal Checkpoints
-Legal (Administrative/Regulatory): Sobriety checkpoints, border patrols, and license/registration checks are generally legal because they have a specific, non-investigatory purpose.
-Illegal (General Crime Control): Checkpoints aimed at searching for illegal drugs, unlicensed weapons, or "crime" in high-crime areas are prohibited.
So you can't check for guns but you can check for sobriety thanks to the Second Amendment.
Why do the Progressives, like Murph and Tempo, hate our Constitutional freedoms? Go ride your bike in Russia or China where the ordinary guy can't afford cars, commies!
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So you can't check for guns but you can check for sobriety thanks to the Second Amendment.
Why do the Progressives, like Murph and Tempo, hate our Constitutional freedoms? Go ride your bike in Russia or China where the ordinary guy can't afford cars, commies!
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So you can't check for guns but you can check for sobriety thanks to the Second Amendment.
Why do the Progressives, like Murph and Tempo, hate our Constitutional freedoms? Go ride your bike in Russia or China where the ordinary guy can't afford cars, commies!
I haven't really been following this moronic conversation very closely, but I've always felt dui checkpoints were unconstitutional.
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Moronic conversations can be enlightening.
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I haven't really been following this moronic conversation very closely, but I've always felt dui checkpoints were unconstitutional.
well then let's all go get wasted and kill a few families in car wrecks!
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So you can't check for guns but you can check for sobriety thanks to the Second Amendment.
No. Because of the 4th Amendment.
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So you can't check for guns but you can check for sobriety thanks to the Second Amendment.
Why do the Progressives, like Murph and Tempo, hate our Constitutional freedoms? Go ride your bike in Russia or China where the ordinary guy can't afford cars, commies!
Again, the applicable amendment is the 4th..Checkpoints for sobriety, licenses, insurance are dubious, but constitutional under federal law..
Checkpoints for guns, drugs, stolen goods, etc. are not.
Things like probable cause and judicial warrants come into play.
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Checkpoints for sobriety, licenses, insurance are dubious, but constitutional under federal law..
What about checkpoints for Proof of Citizenship?
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No. Because of the 4th Amendment.
You sure that's the reason?
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You sure that's the reason?
Yes. Has to do with probable cause.
"Checkpoints are a complex legal area: they are generally constitutional under federal law for specific purposes like sobriety or license checks if done systematically and briefly, balancing public safety against Fourth Amendment rights, but some state constitutions ban them, and general crime control checkpoints are often ruled unconstitutional, requiring strict procedures like advance warning and clear guidelines for officer discretion.' -- AI
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Yes. Has to do with probable cause.
"Checkpoints are a complex legal area: they are generally constitutional under federal law for specific purposes like sobriety or license checks if done systematically and briefly, balancing public safety against Fourth Amendment rights, but some state constitutions ban them, and general crime control checkpoints are often ruled unconstitutional, requiring strict procedures like advance warning and clear guidelines for officer discretion.' -- AI
That's actually not true. If the officer sees drugs or a gun in the car during a lawful traffic stop, the officer can act on it. Officers can take reasonable actions to ensure safety during a traffic stop, including the ability to secure a weapon in the vehicle, until the traffic stop ends. You should have watched Live PD back when it was on A&E.
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That's actually not true. If the officer sees drugs or a gun in the car during a lawful traffic stop, the officer can act on it. Officers can take reasonable actions to ensure safety during a traffic stop, including the ability to secure a weapon in the vehicle, until the traffic stop ends. You should have watched Live PD back when it was on A&E.
the plain view doctrine
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At a legal checkpoint, the plain view doctrine allows law enforcement to seize evidence or establish probable cause for a full search without a warrant, provided specific criteria are met.
At a legal checkpoint, the plain view doctrine allows law enforcement to seize evidence or establish probable cause for a full search without a warrant, provided specific criteria are met.
Core Requirements for Plain View
1. Lawful Presence: The officer must be legally allowed to be where they are when they see the item (e.g., at a constitutionally valid DUI checkpoint or border stop.
2. Lawful Access: The officer must have a legal right to access the physical object itself.
3. Immediately Apparent Incrimination: The officer must have probable cause to believe the item is contraband or evidence of a crime immediately upon seeing it, without further investigation or moving the object.
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Application at Checkpoints
*Initial Stop: Most checkpoints (DUI, immigration) are "suspicionless," meaning they don't require probable cause to stop you.
*Observation: While checking licenses or performing administrative tasks, officers can look into your vehicle. If they see something like an open alcohol container or illegal drugs, that "plain sight" observation creates probable cause.
*Scope of Search: Once probable cause is established via plain view, the Automobile Exception allows the officer to search the rest of the vehicle for further evidence.
*Limits: Officers cannot move jackets, open bags, or lean deeply into the car just to get a better look unless they already have probable cause. For example, in Arizona v. Hicks, moving a stereo to see its serial number was ruled an unconstitutional search.
Key Legal Precedents
--Horton v. California (1990): Clarified that the discovery of evidence does not need to be "inadvertent" to be valid under plain view.
--Michigan Dept. of State Police v. Sitz (1990): Upheld the constitutionality of sobriety checkpoints as a public safety measure.
--City of Indianapolis v. Edmond (2000): Ruled that checkpoints primarily for "general crime control" (like drug sweeps) are unconstitutional.
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You should have watched Live PD back when it was on A&E.
Did that put you over the top on the bar exam?
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Did that put you over the top on the bar exam?
It wasn't on then. Cops probably was on though.
One learned a lot of good stuff watching Live P.D.
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It wasn't on then. Cops probably was on though.
One learned a lot of good stuff watching Live P.D.
Funny thing.
Tell a cop to run into a burning building he'll say you're fucking crazy.
Tell a firefighter to stand in front of a guy with a gun, he'll say you're fucking crazy.
We're not all the same.
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Funny thing.
Tell a cop to run into a burning building he'll say you're fucking crazy.
Tell a firefighter to stand in front of a guy with a gun, he'll say you're fucking crazy.
We're not all the same.
I always enjoyed Emergency and Emergency 1. The Squad 51 alarm always went off when the mustachioed fire fighter was cooking.
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We watched Cops and Live PD
Still occasionally watch Abrams show on Reelz.
Some of what police do is marginal. Use a minor improper lane usage or turn signal violation as probable cause to make a traffic stop. Then claim they smell marijuana ....
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We watched Cops and Live PD
Still occasionally watch Abrams show on Reelz.
Some of what police do is marginal. Use a minor improper lane usage or turn signal violation as probable cause to make a traffic stop. Then claim they smell marijuana ....
Or see in the car a Bic pen barrel without the ink system....a "tooter"!
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Or see in the car a Bic pen barrel without the ink system....a "tooter"!
Or see in the car a 37 year old mom aka domestic terrorist
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Or see in the car a 37 year old mom aka domestic terrorist
Depends on which way she is turning the steering wheel.
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“I don’t hate immigrants. I just want them to do it the right way.”
I keep seeing this, and from people I consider reasonable and educated.
What you don’t understand is that your argument collapses the moment you look at reality.
Because the people being targeted DID do it the right way.
Trump has canceled temporary protection status for more than 1.5 million people.
His administration has revoked more than 100,000 visas.
Some of them for simple traffic violations.
Some for exercising their free speech, like making negative remarks about Charlie Kirk.
These are people who have passed extensive background checks, literally every 6-18 months.
They showed up to court.
They renewed their status.
They paid the fees.
They worked legally.
They studied legally.
They lived here for decades.
Some were literally standing at naturalization ceremonies.
And they still lost their status.
At this point, “the right way” isn’t a path.
It’s a moving target.
You complain about undocumented immigrants while supporting an administration that is taking legal immigrants and MAKING THEM UNDOCUMENTED??
They are also actively looking at avenues to denaturalize immigrants who have become citizens “the right way” by digging up old errors in paperwork.
You can’t scream compliance and then punish those who are compliant.
And if compliance doesn’t protect you, then this was never about legality.
It’s about who people think belongs. It’s about the color of your skin. It’s about prejudice, and it’s about race.
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Emergency! Was the shit when I was a kid.
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“I don’t hate immigrants. I just want them to do it the right way.”
I keep seeing this, and from people I consider reasonable and educated.
What you don’t understand is that your argument collapses the moment you look at reality.
Because the people being targeted DID do it the right way.
Trump has canceled temporary protection status for more than 1.5 million people.
His administration has revoked more than 100,000 visas.
Some of them for simple traffic violations.
Some for exercising their free speech, like making negative remarks about Charlie Kirk.
These are people who have passed extensive background checks, literally every 6-18 months.
They showed up to court.
They renewed their status.
They paid the fees.
They worked legally.
They studied legally.
They lived here for decades.
Some were literally standing at naturalization ceremonies.
And they still lost their status.
At this point, “the right way” isn’t a path.
It’s a moving target.
You complain about undocumented immigrants while supporting an administration that is taking legal immigrants and MAKING THEM UNDOCUMENTED??
They are also actively looking at avenues to denaturalize immigrants who have become citizens “the right way” by digging up old errors in paperwork.
You can’t scream compliance and then punish those who are compliant.
And if compliance doesn’t protect you, then this was never about legality.
It’s about who people think belongs. It’s about the color of your skin. It’s about prejudice, and it’s about race.
Well, that’s certainly one way of looking at it.
Requires considering Biden opening the border to be legal, or “the right way.”
Does not consider that when Biden was thrown out on his ass, it was made not legal again. As it should be.
Ray is an open borders globalist. This is not popular policy in these here United States.
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Straw man or fundamental misunderstanding?
Yes, I am a globalist and prefer borders to be gates rather than fences.
Biden didn't open the border. We have been over that in detail.
That said, the United States Constitution prohibits Bills of Attainder and Ex Post Facto laws. The Due Process Clause prevents the judicial and executive branches from retroactively criminalizing conduct that was egal when it was committed.
Fundamental fairness tells us the rules simply can't be changed while the game is underway.
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Reply to custard
"Overall approval of ICE has declined significantly, from a higher standing to roughly 33%-36% in early 2026, according to Navigator Research and Marist Poll.'
"While a majority of Americans support legal immigration and pathways to citizenship, public support for "open borders" (removing all restrictions) is low, with only 33% favoring it."
What Biden did was not even close to unrestricted open borders.
That said, actual open borders are about as popular as ICE.
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Strawman is as strawman does.
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This is real. 100 million deportations would be more than 80 million deportations of non-illegals I believe. Almost 1/3 of America. Ballparking 40% of adults?
(https://i.postimg.cc/hjL5Bhrz/IMG-5426.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JDhq3rSM)
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Mn, Custard, and Judy; would hate for you guys to watch this and learn something.
https://x.com/sawyerhackett/status/2024253499429511538?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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Mn, Custard, and Judy; would hate for you guys to watch this and learn something.
https://x.com/sawyerhackett/status/2024253499429511538?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
Well for Mn, face it, you can't teach ancient dogs new trick.
The other two? You can't teach stupid dogs any tricks. Judy might have a prayer, but while I'm retiring from my first job, he's looking for his 3rd job, so he can't take the time to learn anything. The irony being that if he had tried to learn, he'd only need one job.
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My fat dumb ass is on beach in Hawaii maybe I’ll watch it when I get back
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Enjoy!
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My fat dumb ass is on beach in Hawaii maybe I’ll watch it when I get back
You sitting there wishing you were on Epstein's island instead?
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My fat dumb ass is on beach in Hawaii maybe I’ll watch it when I get back
Not that I actually want to see it, but Custard owes us a Speedo pic. Could be the best thing to happen to HQ2 since Truth’s cocaine fueled bathroom video.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/sxbjNNFq/IMG-5613.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/XBc6ZxYk)
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Is custard going to back out of his speedo promise?
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Is custard going to back out of his speedo promise?
Speedo doesn't make his size.
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Speedo doesn't make his size.
Beached whale?
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ICE drops blind man off miles from home and he dies in the cold.
https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2027094681205502051?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
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ICE drops blind man off miles from home and he dies in the cold.
https://x.com/factpostnews/status/2027094681205502051?s=46&t=taZJ_d5ITWr6Hq3PUZDUiQ
This did not happen in Minnesota and ICE was not involved.
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This did not happen in Minnesota and ICE was not involved.
Border Patrol. Same difference.
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This did not happen in Minnesota and ICE was not involved.
fr!!
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Border Patrol. Same difference.
Nah, it’s not…
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Nah, it’s not…
Both CBP and ICE fall under the Department of Homeland Security and coordinate on immigration enforcement. BP is part of CBP.
Which one shot Alex Pretti?
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Nah, it’s not…
Potato/potahto
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This did not happen in Minnesota and ICE was not involved.
Happened in America, though.
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Happened in America, though.
And BCP lied about it.
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Hennepin County Medical Center is not only at "real risk of closing." It's a canary in the coal mine for safety net hospitals everywhere, experts say.
https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities/2026/03/09/hcmc-closing-medicaid-cuts
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Hennepin County Medical Center is not only at "real risk of closing." It's a canary in the coal mine for safety net hospitals everywhere, experts say.
https://www.axios.com/local/twin-cities/2026/03/09/hcmc-closing-medicaid-cuts
What happened to Obamacare?
Maybe if they recouped all the fraud money spent on homes and cars up there, they would pay for the hospital care?
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What happened to Obamacare?
Maybe if they recouped all the fraud money spent on homes and cars up there, they would pay for the hospital care?
I haven't seen any reports of the concerns that Somali parents are now unable to enroll their children in daycare or in autistic care.
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I haven't seen any reports of the concerns that Somali parents are now unable to enroll their children in daycare or in autistic care.
Have you stopped reading the local fishwrap?
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What happened to Obamacare
I can actually answer that if you have a few days. The ACA has done pretty well despite Republican sabotage.
One problem is there are people who have too much to qualify to qualify for Medicaid and too little to qualify for the ACA subsidies. The pandemic subsidies filled some of that gap..
Republicans are still pushing failed free market solutions.
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I can actually answer that if you have a few days. The ACA has done pretty well despite Republican sabotage.
One problem is there are people who have too much to qualify to qualify for Medicaid and too little to qualify for the ACA subsidies. The pandemic subsidies filled some of that gap..
Republicans are still pushing failed free market solutions.
I decided to retire despite being a ways away from Medicare but this will be dodgy eventually. I’m gonna do the entirety of 18 months of Cobra for sure.
Another co worker ended up starting his own small business solely for the ability to start a group plan - nothing in the ACA exchanges would let him use Stanford. I don’t know the full details - but basically we need all of Washington to just man up and produce a comprehensive national health plan and collect the taxes to fund it
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I decided to retire despite being a ways away from Medicare but this will be dodgy eventually. I’m gonna do the entirety of 18 months of Cobra for sure.
Another co worker ended up starting his own small business solely for the ability to start a group plan - nothing in the ACA exchanges would let him use Stanford. I don’t know the full details - but basically we need all of Washington to just man up and produce a comprehensive national health plan and collect the taxes to fund it
You sound exactly like Ray, now that your career is over you want the rest of us to pay 55% taxes to support “free” healthcare and college like they do in Europe. Everyone rides bikes over there because they can’t afford to drive a car. No wonder you like this idea so much!
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You sound exactly like Ray, now that your career is over you want the rest of us to pay 55% taxes to support “free” healthcare and college like they do in Europe. Everyone rides bikes over there because they can’t afford to drive a car. No wonder you like this idea so much!
Well - I’ll be paying more in taxes in retirement than you did at any point in your life and I’m cool with raising my taxes anyway …
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They ride bikes in Europe because the old world is small, and they aren’t fat asses overly consuming McDonald’s (and I include myself in that group).
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They ride bikes in Europe because the old world is small, and they aren’t fat asses overly consuming McDonald’s (and I include myself in that group).
James Bond isn't riding a bicycle when I am see him on the road.
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James Bond isn't riding a bicycle when I am see him on the road.
I retired so I would no longer hear this sort of grammar
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Hear hear
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James Bond isn't riding a bicycle when I am see him on the road.
I gave a reason bike riding is typical in Europe, not a diatribe that cars don’t exist or aren’t in come cases even necessary. I also see Bond on trains pretty often.
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I gave a reason bike riding is typical in Europe, not a diatribe that cars don’t exist or aren’t in come cases even necessary. I also see Bond on trains pretty often.
They have good train systems over there. You would not see James Bond taking the Blue Line.
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They have good train systems over there. You would not see James Bond taking the Blue Line.
Nor Goldfinger.
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Have you stopped reading the local fishwrap?
Which story would you like out of today's fishwrap ?
I did enjoy the piece about Walz wanting to fight fraud by moving some control of Medicaid managed care organizations to the State DHS. The person leading DHS was just promoted by Walz after serving in leadership roles, including Chief Compliance Officer, during the fraud years.