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General Category => Fighting Illini Basketball Forum => Topic started by: bringbackself on February 27, 2025, 08:40:50 AM
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Woodson is gone
Fran, lot of talk of moving on or he will retire
Pikiell name has been mentioned since this year was a massive letdown but I don't see it
Hoiberg??? He ain't cutting it
I think Ben Johnson gets one more year
Jake Diebler? such a weird hire.
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Woodson is gone - needed to happen, all parties knew this. This was a convenient "firing".
Fran, lot of talk of moving on or he will retire, He won't coach anywhere else, his "legacy" is too important to him (ego).
Pikiell name has been mentioned since this year was a massive letdown but I don't see it, He could move on with the stud recruiting class going to be gone...might be better opportunities out there.
Hoiberg??? He ain't cutting it, he is in Nebraska, huge hotbed for basketball....not, he is safe unless he wants something different and he has NO buyout so it will make any move easy, he is the most likely to jump to a better program imo.
I think Ben Johnson gets one more year, he has done just enough, problem is Garcia is gone after this year, he will be after next.
Jake Diebler? such a weird hire. Started strong, the school if firing without cause only owes him around 1.6 mil, easy to raise that amount from the deep pockets.
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Re: Fran. What legacy?
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Re: Fran. What legacy?
I like Fran
Need more intense old school coaches like him
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Does the most wins in the program's history count for anything ?
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Re: Fran. What legacy?
Legacy meaning his place within that school, why go elsewhere and possibly diminish how he is thought of and what he has done there.
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Does the most wins in the program's history count for anything ?
Fran is on the way out, within 1-3 years imo, his recruiting will start to suffer.
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Iowa home game atmosphere is as bad as Penn St
It's so quiet in there.
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Iowa home game atmosphere is as bad as Penn St
It's so quiet in there.
You know what wasn't quiet last night, jasn? Your mom. She gets real loud when you give her anal.
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Word around here is Fran is retiring. He is a very good individual player offensive development and offensive system scheme coach. Has never had a team that played enough defense to really do much in tourney.
They can be entertaining and kids generally like playing there.
He can be a total stubborn redass rivaling Underwood.
Will be interesting to see who they go after.
They actually have a strong fanbase when decent as there is no pro team in area.
Have trouble recruiting African American players in all major sports (Football/Men's and Womens' BB).
When he first got here it was kind of a package deal with his wife who was a high D1 player at ND and then coach, and also a notorious hot head. Quite a family.
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Dear Fran,
Please stay.
Signed,
Big10 basketball fans
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Does the most wins in the program's history count for anything ?
He’s never finished higher than 3rd in the conference and never coached past the round of 32, but sure.
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You know what wasn't quiet last night, jasn? Your mom. She gets real loud when you give her anal.
And Jobu thinks I’m the weird one.
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He’s never finished higher than 3rd in the conference and never coached past the round of 32, but sure.
Didn’t realize the tourney stat. That’s pretty damning, even at a school that has minimal tourney success since the 80s.
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He still is at the top of the list in program wins. Which also means he'll stay there for a while.
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He still is at the top of the list in program wins. Which also means he'll stay there for a while.
I hope he stays forever.
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I hope he stays forever.
I hate to see the program in decline. 🤣🤣
Now do football.
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I hope he stays forever.
To build on his legacy?!
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To build on his legacy?!
That would be Frantastic actually.
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Had we only waited until this year we would have an honorable mention 2025 Coach in the Top 10...LOL
https://collegesportswire.usatoday.com/story/sports/college/college-basketball/2025/02/27/10-college-basketball-coaches-supreme-2024-2025-season/80693012007/
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I want to know who Wes Miller agent is....just read his buyout is nearly 9 million, 9 million for Wes Miller to get outta Dodge?? WTF?
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It's why you don't extend someone to seven years in year 2 of a contract after they're average the first year. They're probably stuck with him until April '26. Meanwhile, Andy Kennedy (former Huggins assistant at Cincy) has UAB winning regularly for like $1M/year. Lol.
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Jai Lucas to Miami this weekend.
Duke is so strong this year it may not even effect them. Defensively they may suffer some in the tourney though.
Miami has a lot seniors on that team, (7).
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Some positions being filled up:
Lucas to Miami
Loucks to Fla State
Jensen to Utah
Nothing major with any of these yet...Lucas leaving Duke probably the biggest. But same recruiting grounds.
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Another of Tempo’s darlings—Kevin Keatts—has been fired.
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Another of Tempo’s darlings—Kevin Keatts—has been fired.
Final four run to not even making acc tourney wow
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Another of Tempo’s darlings—Kevin Keatts—has been fired.
Actually good timing for Keatts, he will find another spot pretty quickly imo, that was a tough gig from a recruiting standpoint anyway.
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Final four run to not even making acc tourney wow
You mean NC St didn't overreact to a fluke Final Four run and hand him a lifetime extension?
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Another of Tempo’s darlings—Kevin Keatts—has been fired.
I’ll bet every up and coming coach you ever liked totally crushed it.
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I’ll bet every up and coming coach you ever liked totally crushed it.
Have you already subscribed to Craig Robinson and Michelle Obama's podcast?
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I’ll bet every up and coming coach you ever liked totally crushed it.
Only the white dudes
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Have you already subscribed to Craig Robinson and Michelle Obama's podcast?
I never talked up Craig Robinson. Mike on the other hand was a great First Gentleman.
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Only the white dudes
Naturally. Blacks are too dumb.
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They can only get jobs through DEI.
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I never talked up Craig Robinson. Mike on the other hand was a great First Gentleman.
I thought you did talk him up for the Illini
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They can only get jobs through DEI.
Not if they are rappers....
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I thought you did talk him up for the Illini
Never.
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One of the weirdos on the old board was obsessed with Craig Robinson. But it wasn’t Tempo. DoubtingThomas maybe?
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I’ll bet every up and coming coach you ever liked totally crushed it.
Well I certainly don’t pine almost exclusively for mediocre or unproven black coaches. Black players make up a large percentage of ball players, but if you think about it, there just aren’t very many good black head coaches in either football or basketball at any given time. I don’t know why. I do know the “let’s hire the black guy who is a good recruiter” pretty much never works out.
And I know your first thought is going to be “well it’s lack of opportunity.” Bullshit.
There have never been more black assistant coaches as there have been the last decade or two. Institutions actively want to hire good black head coaches.
I was very happy Whitman got us off the “never had a minority head coach” snide with Lovie than being forced to limit our basketball coaching candidate pool to minorities when Groce inevitably got canned. We could afford a do-over on football as it was already at rock bottom, but with basketball we needed to hire the best guy we feasibly could regardless of race before any more damage was done. Hiring Lovie first allowed us to do that.
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One of the weirdos on the old board was obsessed with Craig Robinson. But it wasn’t Tempo. DoubtingThomas maybe?
I think it might have been PeoriaSteve. God damn, that dude was a straight up retard.
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Shaka - I was all in. Everyone was.
Romar - I literally called him an acceptable 4th or 5th option if our top choices fell through.
Reggie Theus - I once said “we could probably do worse (and I’d argue we did with Groce).”
Keatts - I definitely was high on him. I remember he was in my top 3 I wanted when he was a hot commodity (which IIRC coincided with when we needed a coach).
Yes, I was behind the idea of ending 100 years of never having a black coach in either major sport (Lovie eventually finally broke that embarrassing spot on our school history).
I think it’s ironic I’m constantly made fun of for the black coaches I praised but never get shit for having a huge hard on for Archie Miller (and his brother when he got fired from AZ). I wonder why no one here seems to remember the white coaches I gushed over. Hmmmmm…wonder why.
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And when I say “praised” half of them were literally just names in a hat I said could be considered.
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Keats and Robinson are in the news. Millers, nope.
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Everyone thought Archie was going to be a stud, and his brother was a stud prior to NIL when he was paying players and not everyone else was. Not really the same as Theus or Romar.
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Keats and Robinson are in the news. Millers, nope.
I’m talking a 10 year period here.
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Not really the same as Theus or Romar.
Neither who drew even remotely the amount of praise from me as Archie Miller did. Not. Even. Remotely. Close.
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One of the weirdos on the old board was obsessed with Craig Robinson. But it wasn’t Tempo. DoubtingThomas maybe?
I remember there was someone. Wasn’t Jason?
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Again, I never suggested we HAD to hire a black coach. I thought it would be a big plus all other things being equal. But I badly wanted Archie. I never “wanted” Theus or Romar on any real level. They were break glass in case of emergency candidates IMO.
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Again, I never suggested we HAD to hire a black coach. I thought it would be a big plus all other things being equal. But I badly wanted Archie. I never “wanted” Theus or Romar on any real level. They were break glass in case of emergency candidates IMO.
The real story emerging here is that your coach prospect evaluation kinda sucks.
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The real story emerging here is that your coach prospect evaluation kinda sucks.
Again, I’m sure every up and coming coach you ever like was wildly successful.
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Lol
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Lol
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Again, I’m sure every up and coming coach you ever like was wildly successful.
When Self left I wanted Matta. Was really underwhelmed with the clown shoes hire, didn’t think he would recruit well enough but reluctantly bought into the idea he could win with lower talent. Panned out like most expected.
When Marker Face was on his last legs, I wanted Shaka like everyone else. I didn’t hate the idea of Anthony Grant or Leonard Hamilton but clearly remember texting someone and saying if we hire this John Groce guy I might turn in my fan card.
When Groce was dispatched I was mad we didn’t get Archie, but Underwood had been on my radar, just figured he wasn’t going to jump to Champaign. When we poached him from Okie State I was pumped.
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46347451/sources-bruce-pearl-expected-retire-auburn-hoops-coach
Pearl is a goner...we will see what his son can do.
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46347451/sources-bruce-pearl-expected-retire-auburn-hoops-coach
Pearl is a goner...we will see what his son can do.
maybe Illinois can get him to replace Underwood
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maybe Illinois can get him to replace Underwood
Oh, God damn. I would love to see that.
Could you imagine if Bruce Pearl got us a national championship? Loren Tate would actually die.
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Just saw the presser from Pearl 2.0, no way this guy succeeds. He read his resume, (that didn't take long), he fidgets NON STOP and he looks generally uneasy. He really needs to thank Papa Pearl for this one. I call this guy on the HOT SEAT day 1, and can't believe Auburn just handed him a 5 year contract $250,000 per year as the "ass coach" expected to go to 7 figures ASAP.
WOW, nepotism at its best. Again, no way this guy is successful, especially since he already has stated he will not be on the sideline displaying the actions that his father did.
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Just saw the presser from Pearl 2.0, no way this guy succeeds. He read his resume, (that didn't take long), he fidgets NON STOP and he looks generally uneasy. He really needs to thank Papa Pearl for this one. I call this guy on the HOT SEAT day 1, and can't believe Auburn just handed him a 5 year contract $250,000 per year as the "ass coach" expected to go to 7 figures ASAP.
WOW, nepotism at its best. Again, no way this guy is successful, especially since he already has stated he will not be on the sideline displaying the actions that his father did.
Tyler Underwood is jealous.
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Of all the coaches whose kid gets a free pass to a high major job. That is not a good long-term bet.
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I think this season won't be as hot
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https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/46347451/sources-bruce-pearl-expected-retire-auburn-hoops-coach
Pearl is a goner...we will see what his son can do.
Suck off the nepo teet probably.
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Suck off the nepo teet probably.
nm
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Chauncey Billups.
What kind of shit head has basically unlimited money and gets chucked into jail for getting involved in rigged poker games with the mafia
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Chauncey Billups.
What kind of shit head has basically unlimited money and gets chucked into jail for getting involved in rigged poker games with the mafia
The "King of Park Hill" has fallen. Usually this kind of stupid stuff involves cheating for pussy not cards.
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My God Billups, your an ultimate idiot. Got a sweet GIG, getting paid, respected universally in the NBA for the most part imo, and yet......and yet......you are tied into this and there isn't even any kittykat involved.